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2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent

2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent

Released Thursday, 14th September 2023
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2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent

2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent

2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent

2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent

Thursday, 14th September 2023
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In 2005, Josh begins trying to authenticate the letters.
In 1987, Karen and Ellen struggle with math and jurisdiction; Ellen is upset by a commercial; and Karen tells Mark about her boyfriend.
Mark begins to lose his cool.

The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence.
Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark.
Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Beth Kitcher, and Jeff Powell.

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyi
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Music by:


  • Everything
  • Junk City Rejects
  • Neon Coast
  • Fifteen
  • Neon Rider
    Patreon producers: Adrienne Aiello, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Karli McNutt, Lana, Sara Cee, Lydia Fiedler

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