Trauma expert Stephen Regel discusses what Stephanie went through mentally later life. Stephanie also explains some of this in her interview with Andy Whittaker before she died.Also, former police officer Ellie Baker explains the significance o

S2.6 “Remind your attacker that you are human”

Jul 2nd, 2023 18m 18s

Dr Miriam Stoppard is overcome with emotion after learning that she helped to save Stephanie’s life through a book she wrote.Also, Stephanie’s best friend Stacey Kettner explains how Michael Sams set a trap for Stephanie in his Newark workshop

S2.5 The black panther

Jul 2nd, 2023 21m 37s

Andy Whittaker continues to explore Michael Sams’ past with ‘Psycho Killer’ podcaster Simon Ford, the conversation turns to another well known criminal. Donald Neilson, known as ‘the black panther’, who served time in the same prison as Sams.Al

S2.4 The hostage room

Jul 2nd, 2023 16m 45s

Andy Whittaker and ‘Psycho Killer’ podcast host Simon Ford dive into Sams' past and uncover a startling revelation from a witness in the BBC Archives. Also in this episode, Julie Dart’s uncle Gary Atkin remembers the court case at Nottingham Cr

S2.3 “The signs were there for her to see”

Jul 2nd, 2023 18m 47s

Find out what happened when the police spoke to Michael Sams’ wife Teena. Former police detective Ellie Baker describes how difficult the interview was and there’s a shocking revelation from Teena in a television interview.Former police officer

S2.2 The Slater house

Jul 2nd, 2023 19m 3s

Former West Midlands Police detective Ellie Baker lived at the Slater home in Birmingham during Stephanie’s kidnapping in 1992. Ellie explains how she prepared Stephanie’s father with techniques to keep the kidnapper on the phone if he rang. Al

S2.1 The Parole Board

Jul 2nd, 2023 15m 35s

As the podcast returns for series 2, you’ll find out what the April 2023 Parole Board report says about Michael Sams and his suitability for release. We hear from Gary Atkin, Julie Dart’s uncle, who takes Andy Whittaker on a tour around the fam

S1.8 Michael Sams' Case Update

Mar 10th, 2023 18m 6s

New episodes coming soon but in the meantime Andy Whittaker shares news of a 2023 parole hearing for Sams and explores how these proceedings work in the UK.Julie Dart’s uncle, Gary Atkin, explains the impact her murder has had on his family and

S1.7 A force for good

Nov 25th, 2022 29m 46s

Exploring Stephanie's lasting legacy through her work with UK police forces and their dealings with victims of crime.Andy Whittaker and criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw ask whether lone workers and women in general any safer today than when

S1.6 Phoenix Rhiannon

Nov 25th, 2022 32m 36s

Stephanie tries to heal from her ordeal and reveals more details of her captivity, some of which haunts her as she changes her name and starts to make a new life in the Isle of Wight. Meanwhile, the ransom money is found buried underground and

S1.5 “It’s him, it's him”

Nov 25th, 2022 31m 40s

After Stephanie is returned home, the kidnapper is the most wanted man in Britain. Michael Sams’ identity is revealed after a recording of his voice is featured on the BBC television show, Crimewatch.Andy Whittaker and Dr Julia Shaw explore wha

S1.4 “Phantom of the Fog”

Nov 25th, 2022 25m 20s

The kidnapper tries to get his ransom money by directing the courier across the Pennines in Northern England in thick fog. Andy Whittaker and Dr Julia Shaw explore events from the day with former detectives Bob Taylor and John Plimmer along wit

S1.3 Cat and mouse

Nov 25th, 2022 25m 38s

Investigating links with a dangerous kidnapper after a young woman is taken from the Chapeltown area of Leeds and held for ransom. Andy Whittaker and Dr Julia Shaw explore this with former detective Bob Taylor and psychologist Serena Simmons. T

S1.2 The Workshop, Newark

Nov 25th, 2022 29m 53s

Discover the bleak workshop where Stephanie Slater was held and hear the amazing story of how she managed to build a rapport with her captor. Andy Whittaker and criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw discuss events from the day, with Stephanie's b

S1.1 Turnberry Road, Birmingham

Nov 25th, 2022 29m 23s

A routine house viewing turns into terrifying nightmare as a kidnapper's carefully constructed plan succeeds.Andy Whittaker and criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw discuss events from the day, featuring Detective John Plimmer.There’s graphic de