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Elaine Hardman. She lives in a little
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She's a potter and a former teacher. And
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her daughter at the Houghton Library
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at Harvard University. And to
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take an archaeological dig into
2:45
a recipe. Emily Dickinson's new cake
2:47
recipe. That just seemed like the sort of
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thing you might like to do. We
2:52
knew nothing about Emily Dickinson.
2:54
Maybe a few lines from the
2:56
old Penguin poetry classic. I'm
2:59
nobody. Who are you? Are you
3:01
nobody too? And I think Davia
3:03
remembered hope is the thing with feathers.
3:06
But these librarians, these
3:09
keepers of the story, lured us
3:11
in. The
3:13
Kitchen Sisters present Emily Dickinson's
3:15
Hidden Kitchen. Chapter
3:18
One. Black Cake. This
3:24
is Emily Dickinson herself in the left.
3:27
She's about eight or nine in that painting.
3:30
Her sister Lavinia is holding a picture of
3:32
a cat. Emily was more of a dog
3:34
person. We don't often think
3:36
of her as being a redhead, but there's a
3:38
little lock of her hair and it's definitely
3:40
that color. Emily was
3:42
referred to as the mist
3:45
not often seen. Notorious for
3:47
wearing white. Some people
3:49
knew that she wrote, but it wasn't
3:52
what she was known for. She was
3:54
probably better known as a baker than
3:56
a poet in her lifetime. Her
3:59
gender friends. was the
4:01
first thing that struck
4:03
me. I'm Jean McClure-Mudge,
4:05
writer. I lived in Emily
4:07
Dickinson's house in Amherst as
4:09
a faculty wife, first
4:11
resident curator. Emily
4:14
would bake gingerbread and little
4:16
oval cakes, put little flowers
4:18
on top, and lower them
4:20
in a bread basket from
4:22
her window to the children
4:24
below. They couldn't
4:26
see her. A mystery.
4:31
Emily Dickinson liked to shock people.
4:33
She liked to break rules. There
4:35
was a kind of rebellious freedom
4:37
in her inner world. She has
4:39
a poem that begins, they shut
4:41
me up in prose as when
4:43
a little girl, when they wanted
4:46
her to be still, and she
4:48
says, boy, they should have seen
4:50
the wheels in my brain go round. My
4:53
name is Christopher Bensey. I teach
4:55
at Mount Holyoke College where Emily
4:57
Dickinson spent a year of her
4:59
life. She was very well educated
5:01
for a woman of her time. She liked
5:03
science and botany. What she did
5:05
not like was one of the
5:08
stated purposes of the college, to
5:10
convert young women to the Christian
5:12
cause, finding Christ as their personal
5:15
savior. Christ is calling everyone here.
5:18
All my companions have answered. Even
5:21
my darling Vinnie believes she loves and trusts
5:23
him, and I am
5:25
standing alone in rebellion and growing
5:27
very careless. She was one of
5:29
the students who were declared without
5:31
hope. She said, some keep the
5:33
Sabbath going to church. I keep
5:36
it staying at home with
5:38
a bob-a-link for a chorister and
5:40
an orchard for a dome. My
5:43
name is Emily Elizabeth Dickinson.
5:46
Julie Harris, Ilabel of
5:48
Amherst. This is
5:50
my introduction. Black cake. It's
5:53
my own special recipe. I
5:55
do all the baking here at Homestead.
5:58
I even bound the spy. For
6:00
this cake, it's black cake.
6:03
It's two pounds of flour. The black cake,
6:05
this is a cake that calls for 19
6:08
eggs. Five
6:10
pounds of raisins, two pounds
6:12
of currant, two pounds
6:14
of butter, a substantial cake. All
6:18
assembled, it's 19 pounds and eight ounces.
6:20
That's before you put the brandy in.
6:23
Five teaspoons of clothes. Black
6:25
cake first appears in the
6:27
1840s in cookbooks. It's
6:31
Caribbean in its origin, the
6:33
cinnamon, the mace. It's
6:35
very tied up with the sugar trade
6:37
and molasses. Gently sprinkle in all eight
6:40
pounds. When you think about Emily Dickinson,
6:42
the mist in the white dress. When
6:44
you think about her in the kitchen,
6:47
the physicality of making that cake,
6:49
this is a social cake. So
6:52
counter to Emily and her remove
6:54
from the world. I
6:57
found one Emily Dickinson poem that
6:59
mentions a cake. I'm Heather
7:01
Cole. My name is Emily Walhouse. Emily
7:04
Hardman. We work at Houghton
7:06
Library at Harvard University. The poem was
7:08
sent to Nellie Sweetser with a gift
7:11
of cake and flowers. Blossoms
7:13
will run away. Cakes rain but
7:16
a day. But memory like melody
7:18
is pink eternally. This
7:21
is one of Dickinson's poems
7:23
from Ocessiple. He found booklets
7:25
that Dickinson copied her poems
7:27
into and sewed with kitchen
7:29
twine. Some of her poems were
7:31
published in her lifetime. But they
7:33
changed Emily's plant rhymes and gave
7:35
the poems titles to make them
7:37
more conventional. And that's not how
7:39
she wrote her poems. My life had stood
7:42
a loaded gun in
7:45
corners. She called them bulletins
7:47
from immortality. A
7:50
bolt had come down, the sky had parted, and
7:52
she was given this message.
7:55
People have wanted to turn her
7:57
into a nice lady poet, a
7:59
romantic. Version of her that
8:01
is not and true. It's
8:04
just probably partial. I'm
8:06
been male men I am a
8:08
poet. She did stay in her
8:10
room and she did have put
8:12
she refers to as her flight
8:14
election but he on her white
8:16
dress and going upstairs not going
8:18
out anymore. What choice did she
8:20
have in her time She couldn't
8:22
have gotten haranguing done by. Being.
8:25
And a spinster in the community.
8:27
That takes care of bodies coming home
8:29
from the Civil War Those on being
8:32
a nice church lady in a she
8:34
wrote seven hundred pounds in two years.
8:36
I mean seven hundred? For.
8:39
Pizza. Hate. This.
8:41
Is poems Six, Six Eight. By.
8:43
Emily Dickinson, Nature.
8:46
Is what we see. The
8:48
Hill. The. Afternoon. Squirrel.
8:51
The. The bundle
8:53
de. Ne nature
8:56
is heaven. Nature.
8:58
Is what we hear. The. Bob
9:00
a link to see. Thunder.
9:03
The. Cricket. May
9:06
nature's harmony. Nature
9:09
is what we know. Yet.
9:11
Have no are to say. So.
9:13
In prison. Or wisdom is.
9:16
To her simplicity.
9:19
She actually would write own chocolate rappers.
9:21
That's great news on the loop prunes
9:24
sort of in the flotsam and jetsam.
9:26
Move. Her the word
9:28
move. In the fragment of that
9:30
paper. This poem was composed on
9:33
the back of the coconut cake recipe. The.
9:35
Things that never can come
9:38
back. Or several. Childhood.
9:41
Some forms of hope. that
9:43
dad superbly and supremely it's
9:45
like her cooking and her
9:47
poetry were one the way
9:50
in which seed case friends
9:52
not only points that gifts
9:54
of cake they were offerings
9:56
attentions that's what people call
9:58
them between houses when friends
10:01
gave something that they had
10:03
made. In the
10:05
kitchen, in the bedroom, these
10:08
secret spaces where she could be
10:10
alone or with her own
10:13
select society, that really
10:15
was freedom. When
10:18
Emily Dickinson bakes bread,
10:20
there's something almost ecstatic
10:22
about it, satisfaction of
10:24
creativity. In one of
10:27
her early letters in 1850 to
10:29
her best friend Abaya Root, she
10:31
says, Twin loaves
10:34
of bread have just
10:36
been born into the
10:38
world under my auspices.
10:41
Fine children, the image of
10:43
their mother. And here,
10:46
my dear friend, is the
10:48
glory. Act
10:54
two, the soul selects
10:56
its own society. There
10:59
were two kitchens in Emily's life. She
11:02
lived in a house on Pleasant Street
11:04
next to the cemetery. And
11:06
that is the kitchen where Emily learned
11:09
to cook, how to make
11:11
bread, how to make desserts, how to
11:13
make wine. Her mother largely teaching her.
11:18
The mother and the parents really both
11:20
are very old fashioned. They
11:22
think they have such a small family. The
11:25
girls can do everything. It's good training for
11:27
them. Emily Dickinson, her sister's
11:29
at boarding school. Her brother's gone,
11:32
is managing three meals, cooked
11:35
meals a day on the table and
11:37
washing the dishes. She
11:39
would start a letter. It
11:41
would take her another week or so to get back to
11:43
it. She had this drive to
11:45
write and she was so thwarted. That's
11:48
when the lobbying started to hire a maid.
11:51
Wanted To hire a girl or
11:54
woman who is capable of doing
11:56
the entire work of a small
11:58
family. Amherst.
12:01
March says it's eighteen. Sixty.
12:04
I'm a summary author of
12:06
made his Muse. Has service
12:08
changed? Emily. Dickinson slice and
12:10
language. Eighteen. Fifty Five
12:13
Emily was twenty five when they
12:15
moved into the mansion this demanding
12:17
household. Her father was a leading
12:20
warrior, the mother was not well.
12:23
She. Turned over the
12:25
social and housekeeping regime
12:27
to her daughter's. Emily,
12:30
Miss the pleasantries. House
12:32
terribly She said I'm
12:34
out with lanterns looking
12:36
for myself. Within
12:38
months without most the first
12:41
want her made. Margaret Brian
12:43
has an Irish immigrant Tom's.
12:45
She's. There for nine years this an
12:48
immediate impact emily as time. To
12:50
sink in right when she felt
12:52
more confident about ourselves as a
12:54
poet. then the house became more
12:57
hers with her garden with the
12:59
proximity to Sue. When
13:01
Susan Gilbert came back to town
13:04
after going away to school. Emily
13:06
Dickinson and her brother Austin both
13:09
fell in love with her. They.
13:11
Both throat love letters to her.
13:13
They were both enchanted with her.
13:16
After Austin and so were married
13:18
austin father basically paid them to
13:21
stay in Amherst by building a
13:23
house for them. But gorgeous Evergrande
13:25
sex start of a homestead. Season.
13:28
And Emily Widmark that passages they liked
13:30
him that they sent them back. And
13:32
forth crossed the line. One sister
13:35
have I in our house and
13:37
one a hedge away is only.
13:39
One record at that. Both belonged
13:41
to me. one team. The way
13:44
that I came and warm well
13:46
past years down the other. As
13:49
a bird her nest ill did
13:51
our hearts among Emily Dickinson sans
13:53
more of her palms to Susan
13:56
than any other correspondent. the most
13:58
of her and most. No
14:00
charge was courses and and
14:02
says season was so much
14:04
her reader she's snitching as
14:07
house or something. Easy to
14:09
see. You and it's any
14:11
for t shirts and
14:13
very sweet in any
14:15
time Sir Scared of
14:17
says judgments? I
14:20
split into that took
14:22
the morning I chose
14:24
to single start from
14:26
out the wide numbers.
14:28
Sue for Evermore you
14:31
can see. How it goes
14:33
From almost as a sweet a
14:35
tall. And Co and one sister have I have
14:37
a house and one had to weigh. A
14:40
suite of and then accounts
14:42
for more wild. Oh plus
14:45
to do that took the
14:47
more. I chose his single
14:49
start from out the white. Knights
14:51
members to for evermore
14:53
his. Sleep
14:56
leave erotic paid unless the
14:58
so or by the end.
15:01
Success with us control at some
15:03
mason. Could. You you need
15:06
the Atlantic Monthly. In.
15:08
The April issue Eighteen Sixty
15:10
Two, an article appeared in
15:13
Fighting. Yahoo! Writers to
15:15
submit their work. Ah,
15:19
Charge. Your style was like.
15:22
Said. They offer sled were
15:24
second said. When
15:26
she first contact with Thomas not
15:29
worth Higginson and Eighteen Sixty Two
15:31
and asked if her poems breezed,
15:33
he sent her back his judgements
15:36
on the Palms not for encourage
15:38
and but he did what a
15:40
lot of party old literary men
15:42
would do and he said send
15:45
me a photograph of yourself to
15:47
bro could you believe me without
15:49
I have no portrait now but
15:52
I'm small, like the ram and
15:54
my hair as bold like the
15:56
chestnut. Bearer and my eyes
15:59
like that. from
18:00
my ambitions as firmament to
18:03
thin, you know, as
18:05
a fish on land. She sought
18:07
publication that she wanted to be
18:09
published, but at
18:11
a certain point she recognized
18:14
that publication is the auction of
18:16
the mind of man, as she
18:19
wrote, that she didn't want to have to
18:21
sell out. Not selling
18:23
out for her was doing her
18:26
self-published job of organizing
18:28
these fascicles and getting them into
18:31
the drawer, and that was going to be her. Like
18:33
a scene, she knew it. The
18:36
end of 1865, she's writing
18:38
almost the equivalent of a poem a day. Margaret
18:41
O'Brien leaves, they don't have a
18:43
permanent maid for three years. Her
18:47
writing drops to something
18:49
like 10 poems a year. In
18:52
the winter spring of 69, they
18:55
hire Margaret Maher, an Irish immigrant,
18:57
warm and wild and mighty. Margaret
19:00
shares the kitchen with Emily for 17 years,
19:03
and the writing starts to shoot up again.
19:07
Many of Dickinson's finished poems are stored
19:09
in Margaret Maher's trunk. Two
19:13
o'clock in the morning, a
19:15
night of great winds, she
19:17
reads Shakespeare for a while, the
19:20
insomnia of the recluse, thoughts
19:23
of him, thoughts of him cut
19:26
off from her as she says by the
19:28
decalogue, thoughts of
19:30
him, the winds are like the ocean, he
19:33
is like the ocean, wild
19:36
nights, wild
19:38
nights, would
19:41
I were with thee, wild
19:43
nights would be our luxury. There
19:47
are many theories about who the great master poems were to.
19:59
One was Judge Otis Lord. One
20:01
was Charles Wadsworth. She also
20:03
called Higginson master, signing
20:05
her letters your scholar, your
20:08
scholar, your student. Until
20:10
she felt that she was really
20:12
graduating from needing Higginson as a
20:15
critic and then she
20:17
started calling herself Higginson. The
20:21
zeras taught us phosphorus. We
20:24
learned to like the fire by
20:26
playing glaciers, when a boy
20:28
and tinder guessed
20:30
all power of opposite to
20:32
balance odd. If white,
20:35
a red must be. Paralysis
20:38
are primer, dumb
20:40
unto vitality. I get
20:43
most of it. The second
20:45
and third lines give me the clue to how
20:47
to read the rest of the poem. We
20:49
learned to like the fire by playing
20:52
glaciers. We learned to
20:54
like the most intense
20:56
states by experiencing the
20:58
opposite of those intense states. And
21:02
paralysis is a primer.
21:04
It's a rule book. When
21:07
we're feeling most paralyzed, that's
21:09
when we learn something. You
21:13
find her using the terminology
21:15
of science, of the carpenter,
21:19
of things in the world
21:21
around her as metaphors for
21:23
being. Sometimes her
21:25
poems are like recipes. To
21:28
make a prairie, it takes a clover and one
21:31
bee. One clover and
21:33
a bee and reverie. The
21:36
reverie alone will do if bees
21:39
are few. The influence
21:41
of the kitchen and the language
21:43
around her. Irish immigrants,
21:46
Native Americans, people who are of
21:48
African descent, slave descent, in and
21:50
out of the kitchen, coming
21:52
and going in that yard
21:54
and barn. All of these
21:56
different vernaculars play into the
21:58
ways in which she approaches it. I'm Alex
22:03
Schwartz.
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Three. Tell all the truth. But
22:53
tell it's slam. The
22:57
homestead is a strange place for the last
22:59
10 years or so
23:01
of Emily Dickinson's life. This
23:04
promising young astronomer came to
23:06
Amherst with his dazzling wife,
23:09
Mabel Loomis Todd. Mabel Loomis
23:11
Todd was a very attractive,
23:14
vivacious, younger woman. Nobody in
23:16
Amherst had ever seen anybody
23:18
quite like Mabel Loomis Todd
23:20
before. She was beautiful, a
23:23
professionally trained musician.
23:25
Good public speaker, a very good
23:28
dancer. And she immediately decided that
23:31
the really cool family in town was
23:33
the Dickinsons. And she set out
23:35
to seduce the family. And she seduced
23:37
all of them. She
23:39
probably was utterly delightful. She
23:41
did captivate Austin. The two sisters,
23:44
Lavinia and Emily, invite Mabel Todd
23:46
in 1882 to come and play
23:48
the piano and sing for them.
23:51
Emily Dickinson never comes downstairs.
23:54
She remains upstairs with the
23:56
door ajar. Mabel
23:58
Loomis Todd was in intrigued by
24:01
the fact that Austin had this sister.
24:03
From the moment that
24:06
Mabel Todd arrives in
24:08
Amherst, she tells her
24:10
correspondence about
24:12
this extraordinary woman
24:15
in white who, according to Mabel,
24:17
is known as the
24:19
myth. You know, Mabel never saw
24:21
her, except in death. Mabel
24:23
was Todd because she had a dramatic
24:25
flair. I have a feeling that she
24:28
kind of overdid it when
24:30
she described how much of a
24:32
recluse Emily was. Emily may have
24:34
been reclusive to Mrs. Todd, but
24:37
not to her very close
24:39
friends. The other thing that was
24:41
going on during those months in
24:44
the homestead is that Mabel and
24:46
Austin were using it for their
24:48
romantic trysts. While
24:51
Emily Dickinson was upstairs, Mabel was
24:53
making love with Emily Dickinson's brother
24:55
on the sofa. Emily
24:57
in Lavinia and Margaret Maher
24:59
are all there when they're
25:02
having their three-hour trysts
25:04
in the homestead library. Susan
25:07
Gilbert Dickinson, Austin's wife, was
25:09
not very happy about this.
25:12
Here was Sue right next door. Susan
25:14
had been Emily's closest friend
25:16
as they grew up. It
25:20
might be lonelier without the loneliness. I'm
25:22
so accustomed to my fate. Perhaps
25:25
the other, peace, would
25:27
interrupt the dark and
25:30
crowd the little room too scant
25:32
by cubits to contain the sacrament
25:34
of him. I
25:36
am not used to hope. I
25:39
might intrude upon its sweet parade,
25:41
blaspheme the place, ordained
25:43
to suffering. It
25:45
might be easier to fail with
25:47
land in sight than
25:49
gain my blue peninsula to
25:52
perish of delight. Because
25:58
I could not stop for... death, he
26:02
kindly stopped for me. The
26:05
carriage hurled but just ourselves and
26:08
immortality. At
26:23
the end of her life
26:25
in May of 1886, her
26:27
last letter simply read,
26:30
Little Cousins Called
26:32
Back Emily. She
26:35
wanted the funeral to come out the back door. She
26:38
wanted Irish gardeners and laborers to
26:40
be the pallbearers to carry her
26:42
casket around the grounds
26:44
and through the barn through
26:46
the fields. Everybody was shocked.
26:49
Mabel Loomis-Tide came to the funeral and she says, carry
26:52
through the field by Irishmen.
26:56
After her death, LaVenia found
26:58
in Emily Dickinson's bedroom 40
27:02
carefully arranged
27:04
booklets of
27:06
poems ready for publication.
27:10
LaVenia took the poems to
27:12
her sister-in-law Susan and said,
27:14
we need to get these
27:16
published. When Susan dawdled at
27:18
the task, LaVenia retrieved that
27:20
batch of about 500 poems
27:23
and gave them to Mabel
27:25
Tide. She went from wife
27:28
of Austin to lover of Austin
27:30
asking for help with the poems.
27:33
Mabel Loomis-Tide became
27:35
with Thomas Wentworth Higginson,
27:37
co-editor of Emily's poems
27:40
that were published
27:42
in the early 1890s. They thought there
27:46
were many poems that were incomprehensible
27:49
and that maybe if we cleaned them up
27:51
a little bit for punctuation because she Obviously
27:53
was out of control. He Changed
27:55
words so that the rhymes were
27:57
more exact, got rid of it.
28:00
Oh, stances. the early volumes of
28:02
poetry presented a kind of nature
28:05
poet glorious pounds, but people were
28:07
trying to turn her into a
28:10
poet of the eighteen nineties. The
28:12
Wilder Palms were put aside, so
28:14
to speak To. Erotic strengths
28:16
as his consciousness to the
28:18
tears She was writing Love
28:21
Pounds to at least three
28:23
people and possibly this minister,
28:25
possibly this judge and possibly
28:27
your sister in law. That
28:29
mr then just a theory.
28:31
Strong cocktail. Plan on Earth,
28:33
Are we supposed? To deal with. The
28:37
first three volumes were suitably
28:39
successful. Their concerns poetry was
28:41
immediately recognized and our plans
28:43
in place to burn out
28:45
more Palms and then Austin
28:47
dies. He. Leaves a
28:49
plot of land to Maple
28:52
Todd and Lavinia is serious.
28:54
She does not want a
28:57
public gift from her down
28:59
brother to his. Mistress.
29:02
The. To collections of manuscripts for
29:05
split. The Collector
29:07
many skeptics that says in Huntington
29:09
Dickinson held and the question that
29:11
label him aside held pass each
29:13
woman's daughter who continued the seafood.
29:15
You know why first his mistress
29:17
into the twentieth century. One.
29:19
Body of Palms is needed
29:21
to Amherst College, Harvard purchases
29:24
the other Body of Palms
29:26
to historically all male institutions
29:28
for Emily Dickinson can never
29:31
have gone to college. In
29:35
Nineteen Sixty Five, Dickinsons
29:37
reappearance was a literary
29:40
bombshell to the very
29:42
first time all of
29:44
her poems became available.
29:46
This Nineteen Fifty Five
29:48
magician went back to
29:50
the manuscripts. Adrienne
29:53
Rich. Nineteen Eighty. Just. I'll
29:55
never forget the shock of
29:58
openings A. The
30:00
issue for point is in. Which
30:02
the dashes. Had been restored,
30:04
the dashes and the capitalization
30:07
said been restored and getting
30:09
a sense of a whole
30:12
new reading of this poetry.
30:14
a whole nervous, much more
30:17
jagged, much more. Personal.
30:19
Much more original. Much. More
30:22
unsustainable than I had ever thought
30:24
to be. Going
30:27
up the back stairs as I
30:29
did every single day in that
30:31
house for eleven years. And
30:34
thinking. For a
30:36
certain time, this
30:38
exquisite mind lived
30:40
here. Living
30:42
a modest the hidden mice
30:44
happening to be at home
30:47
to help her father the
30:49
how could see make a
30:51
life for herself. She
30:54
brilliantly did it. Producing.
30:56
These start ideas that
30:59
resonate and mrs so
31:01
much more for human.
31:16
Emily Dickinson Hidden Kitchen was
31:18
produced Advocates and Sisters in collaboration
31:20
with Nathan Dalton and Brandy Him.
31:22
Special thanks to the National
31:24
Endowment for the Humanities and
31:26
the National. Endowment for the Arts
31:28
Arts or. Thank. You
31:31
Christopher Fancy author of Emily Dickinson
31:33
and The Problem Of Others. A
31:36
summary made as muse as
31:38
servants. Changed Emily Dickinson Slice on
31:41
Language Gene the Color Match Author
31:43
of Emily Dickinson and the Image
31:45
of Home. And poet
31:47
Brenda Hellman. a pocket only
31:50
Dickinson Very sweet little volume
31:52
smoking. Thanks
31:54
to a Lane Hardman for getting in touch.
31:56
With the kitchen sisters the see I drifted his
31:59
story. Had a librarian
32:01
at Houghton Library, Harvard University, and
32:03
Emily Dickinson Museum and am first
32:05
you can go and visit the
32:07
Homestead. And the evergreen. Your
32:10
heard readings are: Thornton Wilder, Julie
32:12
Harris, Jane Alexander and Patti Smith.
32:15
Adrienne Rich was recorded in Nineteen
32:17
Eighty Eight as part of the
32:19
excellent Pbs series. Voice Isn't isn't
32:21
supported by the any A H
32:24
The Kitchen Sisters present as part
32:26
of Radio Tokyo A selective have
32:28
some of the most remarkable, beautifully
32:31
conceived and produced shows out there
32:33
and for listening.
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