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German bombing raids that forced the city
2:03
underground into the tube stations till the
2:06
buzz bombs passed. Pretty
2:08
British girls he dated with names
2:10
like Daphne and Bubbles. But
2:13
mostly he talked about Raddleston. Every
2:16
time I got on the plane he
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would remind me that his airbase was
2:20
in Raddleston, and if I went there
2:22
into the town pub, I would find
2:24
his photograph along with his ace air
2:26
force squadron there on the wall. It
2:29
was still there, he said, over 50 years
2:31
later. Lenny loved
2:33
England, and for as terrifying as
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it had been for an 18-year-old who had never
2:37
been out at the Lower East Side of New
2:39
York and was now a
2:42
navigator in the Army Air Corps
2:44
flying bombing missions over Germany, he
2:46
loved his time in the Army,
2:48
fighting Hitler and fascism and anti-Semitism,
2:51
meeting guys from places like
2:54
Kansas and Utah. Hearing
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the swing bands that came and entertained the
2:58
troops, receiving a salami
3:00
from Katz's deli sent to Raddleston by
3:03
his mother back on Orchard Street. For
3:06
five years he asked me to go to
3:08
Raddleston to see the photograph and find his
3:10
base. I kept
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saying I would go. Finally,
3:15
one fine Sunday, Joe agreed
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and we headed north-northeast of
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London in search of a
3:21
pub and a piece of my father's past.
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The piece he was proudest of. Lenny
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died on Christmas Eve last year. In
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his honor, we share this journey with you. Samuel
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Shelton Robinson helped us produce
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this story. He's from London.
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It seemed only right. A.B.A.
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and Joe. I had
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a day may twelve Two thousand
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and twelve. On
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our pilgrimage for the for
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Forty Seven and the and
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so forth. So we just
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passing very said Edmunds. Are
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on our way toward Still market around
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with the for the turn off two
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rattles them. To
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look for the town of Whoop. It's. Hip
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and will. Go
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through with music greens and then we get
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to rattles. And in
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the actual air for is a little
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bit south of Radisson. are faithful Hi
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Town Green. And
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is applied for. The
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only part of the air filters still. These.
4:51
Are the birds. And Fran often. Humble
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those birth sad to see some the same.
5:05
We are now
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has improved arms
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which perhaps fans
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had. Been
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using her friend Tim. Homemade
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food. garden task as classic lines
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take a syringe. take her sounds.
5:29
That are not as a
5:31
second things are feather in
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a Prosecco Pass. Or
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yes I am today via Fran
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San Francisco. My father was a
5:42
man in the Us Air Force
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and was says terror during the
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for your Money back on the
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landlady if. The person they must. Have
5:50
been added to come to the the
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landlady am I grew up Nazis? awesome
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his do you hear many stories about
5:57
that time in the forties when they're
5:59
a man. Herman more here
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you get quite a few people coming to
6:03
raise so if he of on yes issue
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during the summer as a few people in
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the village this of Odom and that it's
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mean see that the see stories to tell
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have had love stories about the lady who
6:14
was the landlady then enemy so his or
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her party says isn't what kind of part
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of our the is a lot of dancing
6:20
on tables. In the forces. Mabel set
6:22
aside nine thousand and on the table
6:24
with maple that thought the are guy said
6:27
same as as so when sony they some
6:29
fun things that that went on in
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this building i think and the photographs data
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so he said there's a pattern rattles that
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have either they were of a lot of
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sites classy Been time we got here there
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wasn't really that much here on Nye
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guys with see things as a local historical
6:44
society that we sounds as you say tires
6:47
and their personal plants that have been presented.
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To the pub at some point as a
6:52
massive so supports and of the way during
6:54
the more. So it kind of within the
6:56
village. I think some of the fi size belongs
6:58
to families in the village and they had kind
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of always been his the some people. Sick things
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and things like that. And what
7:05
about the local. Man who fought
7:07
in the war. The other pub
7:09
with no best sauce and any one that
7:11
was around because they're more than a kind
7:13
of drink he pops so any of the
7:15
guys that do so want to see Iran's
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have a point and so they send to
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go in there even a this is what
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middle the history, the drinking and the. Story.
7:24
Since happen in the other, this is the brewers
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Arms and that's the five. Both. Have
7:28
own and the Salish says. If
7:31
is have club for the best fatherless
7:33
hundred ccs I think. So
7:35
my dad was in here in
7:37
nineteen. Forty four months say? what
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would he have been drinking? A
7:42
would have been visser fit. It was a
7:44
slightly different services aging these days. It was
7:46
slusser. And it is hop yeah
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because it wasn't ever left with no and
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it would have been said states and the
7:53
Bauer property pump. See, I
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would have been that defense. What would have in
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the music she would have been hearing and hear them.
8:00
I did you need to be like the country's
8:02
it really that kind of music I felt as
8:04
if of these advances it is nice about since
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I. Home. From.
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Suffolk. frozen so. What
8:22
kind of press similarities some growing
8:24
up? A for apart. From
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stories from my grandmother so I never
8:29
know about were voting he was one
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in ones that will different the tanks
8:33
is a massage her people in the
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grass and and way I walk in
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front a tank. Faith so good cop
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out never told by the war or
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source badges in is a uniform and
8:44
I was known as by it. Mentioned
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a few things here and now subdivisions
8:49
over Badger they reading so I think.
8:52
Some people do some events and anger. And
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that for testing Neocons I added
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I say you have. To.
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Will. Do.
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Our thing you do on and
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Sophia from San Francisco hi Dad
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was here during World War two
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thousand and rattles ten And the
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as far as I'm so so
9:38
so far as a pause in
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town this is think still has
9:43
a pincer as the Eighth Air
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Force. his. That was the
9:47
number was arms and new people
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to cause a severe girls and
9:52
their what's up guys for when
9:54
escape. And
9:56
nobody saw any of the builders moved him
9:58
to do when they done. And
10:00
just kept everything. Not realizes.
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They were actually bought us I'm Debbie,
10:06
all of our and five pounds. Why
10:10
has gotten so used in the war?
10:12
If you're lucky to get back will
10:14
not be enormously people at Cisco, other
10:17
city schools and lucky bastard can I
10:19
please of the lucky to get back.
10:22
In the sixties June nineteen Hundred
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and Forty four the sickle find
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on a site since expediency twice
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on the role of lucky been
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discussed the name of Edward it
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made me based on on on
10:35
their flying fortress the Southern edge
10:37
and will have a nice day.
10:39
It's a remarkable record rallying for
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returning no less than thirty time
10:43
level rise to has his of
10:45
onsite for them to Hitler and
10:48
his cronies. tons of bombs for
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dungeon the businesses back also the
10:52
to. See or say they've on
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one one. I a S who
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sponsors these programs in the interests
10:58
of liberty loving people everywhere. Fulfils
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hasn't been great. Did
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that come with a. Guy that was given
11:05
to me. When will the
11:07
stuff then they got from know somebody brought
11:09
in for me says anything that they had.
11:12
Escape. Or here. Is
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an open wound announced? I. I
11:17
bet you're gonna become the informal
11:19
historical society. There is one, a
11:21
mouse and. For. Them and
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run it. Seated on the road
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more you cannot on find out
11:28
when you come back from one
11:30
nine four years the phone numbers
11:32
game again or have a socio
11:34
admired letting her. Go.
11:44
Quite happy. Air
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Field has been replaced by.
12:27
We have just made the right turn
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us to the gays and we are
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as case of the airfield. Clothes
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line. From.
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A lot Jays. Emerson
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A: Let's. See how far we can
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get. Served
12:45
right on Her last is a
12:47
concept that as being swallowed by
12:50
nature. Walks.
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He asks it is sort of
12:54
an anger what kind of seasonings
12:56
cause says that after concept has.
13:00
A much bigger hugs concert
13:02
Outside buildings are much much
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bigger. I
13:06
guess it's a new addition.
13:08
Those skylights merseyside him to
13:10
smoke success and smoke chimneys
13:12
that looks like they might
13:14
have been some time and
13:16
also green. Whether
13:19
that's with mold or paints we're
13:21
not sure as he gets paid
13:23
three hundred. Three
13:26
nine through. Three.
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Six Marines sex. Gas.
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Hi Dad, it's Daisy! I'm
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so sorry to wake you
13:47
up but I'm standing at
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Rattles Thin air field and
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I I i just had
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to hear your voice slow
13:56
staring at the Klein Said
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Heights. Hi
14:01
hats are still there. There's like little
14:03
clients it has in between all of
14:06
the big quonset hut. What?
14:12
If. You remember the number of years Quonset
14:15
Hut. Dad
14:45
I'm in a introduce you are a gentleman says what
14:47
he up what's your name sir. Mister Mister
14:49
One and this. Is my father Leonard
14:52
Nelson? the is Mr. Watts dad who
14:54
just approached us. Hello.on Ira.
15:00
Have you been over before? Not. My
15:09
trip. For.
15:26
Them to these ones were living.
15:29
Coors are you visualise refers earners.
15:32
Dad. Was the memorial there when you came.
15:37
Will call you from there when we're
15:39
driving back down. And. Okay,
15:42
Are right over and out. Most
15:45
for your eyes are saying. Yes,
15:48
Jews who are they turn
15:50
off his son raises Fargo
15:52
grandfather's new areas. Where.
15:54
Do you farming only just for
15:56
marvel? This Quite Bodies owes a
15:59
ride. The let anyone at the Earth
16:01
and. Phone can never is the controls
16:03
Her secret. But center and turn
16:05
this society Musa are both
16:07
of us. If he opens
16:10
his eyes the Mcgregor into
16:12
this explain how your they'll
16:14
let us I think. So
16:52
well known. Her
16:55
morning. My
16:57
name is Daisy. I smell
16:59
sin and I'm from San
17:02
Francisco. Oh judy ne sera
17:04
zoc Name skies are named
17:06
and take heart provoke happy
17:08
to name's. Lisa
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can't has some reason she's
17:13
so beautiful. My father was
17:15
here during world war two
17:17
he was an American yes
17:19
as if he has a
17:22
sense it tourney have a
17:24
very unions are hasn't would
17:26
and the reunions. I
17:28
think probably finish snap the had
17:30
from every customer. The essays come
17:33
as a answer. Except
17:35
sometimes have a mere uniform. I
17:39
think that resolves both sides
17:41
is allowed here. Set mainly
17:43
down at the crossroads down
17:46
there. That side. In
17:49
a sense where they used to take
17:51
off under to the police because that
17:53
was before my time. This.
17:56
Memorial is dedicated to
17:58
the mail. of the 447th
18:01
Bomb Group and their
18:03
supporting units in
18:06
remembrance and gratitude of their
18:08
fight in the cause of
18:10
freedom from Ratlofon
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Airfield. Station 126,
18:14
1943 to 1945. This
18:21
memorial was dedicated on
18:23
the 3rd of June 1984. What's
18:29
the music you remember from that time? Ah,
18:32
the waffle. I'll see
18:34
you over the white cliffs of Dover. Tomorrow's
18:37
just your way to sea. Of
18:57
Dover. Tomorrow's
19:04
just your way
19:06
to sea. What's
19:11
traditional rattlesnip cooking? I
19:16
think most of it is what you get from the
19:18
supermarket. Probably
19:21
now. I don't know whether
19:23
people still have roast dinners on Sundays, which
19:25
they used to do. I
19:27
don't anymore because I'm on my own, but that's
19:29
where the families do. Probably
19:32
not. I used
19:34
to make steak pies and
19:38
rice pudding following that because it went
19:40
in the oven together. And
19:43
roast meat on Sundays and
19:47
cold meat on Mondays, sometimes
19:51
made into a shepherd's pie on Tuesday.
19:54
Yes, yes. Well, very
19:57
nice to have met
19:59
you. to take good care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye,
20:01
Skye. Hi, Dad. Can you hear
20:03
us? Yes, now I
20:05
can. There's another little memorial in fond
20:07
memory of Shirley Lee from the
20:10
447th Bomb Group. Do
20:12
you know who that would have been? Yes, I
20:14
think it was a woman who kept the archives.
20:17
By the way, as you made
20:19
the turn into the, towards
20:21
the airfield off the road, was
20:24
the village idiot still there? No.
20:27
Oh. No,
20:29
he was always there. Okay. He
20:32
was greeting us. We went over to
20:34
see where you lived, Dad, but it's
20:36
been cleared. What was there now was
20:39
two pheasants in a
20:41
mating dance. We just sat transfixed in
20:43
front of the open field watching
20:45
these two grouses or pheasants do
20:48
this sort of dance around each other.
20:51
Yeah, how wonderful. The
20:53
tower, it's over there, but they're gliding from it
20:55
today, so we just... Oh, I see. Yeah,
20:59
but there they were. We saw two of them.
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Yeah. Okay, well,
21:04
there it goes. Glad you were there.
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All right, you can go back to sleep now. No,
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I won't be able to. I'm really
21:13
excited. It's beautiful, Dad. Oh,
21:17
wonderful. England has
21:19
those beautiful days. Okay,
21:21
Daddy-o. Love to you. Thanks
21:24
for taking the journey. It
21:27
is a journey. It's a good one.
21:29
Okay, sweetheart. Okay. Bye, Daddy-o. Bye, Daddy-o.
21:31
Bye, Joe. Thank you. Bye. Rattleson
21:39
was produced by Sam Robinson and
21:41
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21:43
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