This week, we’re doing something new. We gathered a group of Klunatics to have a round table discussion of TJ Klune’s antagonists. Are they evil? Misunderstood? Are villains just the hero of their own story? Like most of the topics we discuss here on The Klunatics Podcast, the answers we come up with may surprise you.

Featuring: Chealsea Verzwyvelt, Melissa Logan, Tanya Hess, Anji River, Dene Young, Susannah Frigo, and Michael Lesley

A couple of warnings: There are some gentle spoilers for TJ Klune’s books, so proceed with caution, and this conversation also contains a political joke, which we’ve left in despite the Klunatic rule banning political talk precisely because it is, in fact, a joke.

The Klunatics Podcast is produced by Susannah Frigo, Luis Garcia, Angela Noll Mohn, Sita Rajasingham, Mia Sciberras, Jon Steiger, and Kirt Graves. This episode was written by Sita Rajasingham.

Special thanks to our season sponsor, Tex Tycoon. JK. It’s still Chelsea Verzwyvelt.

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