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see you there. Hi,
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everybody. Well, I hope that you had a wonderful
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week last week. And you
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know, we've been working on
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themes every month where we're
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trying to have a theme and we're
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not staying to it like, like, you
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know, strictly staying to it. Because
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there's lots of questions come in, we try
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our best to make this personal and trying
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to make this a time, you know,
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our goal was to make this a time
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when people have actually had
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access to us. Because I think part
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of the challenge, you know, when you're in
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a position of leadership that I'm in, is
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that we don't have a lot of connection with,
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you know, people that we're not working with every day. And
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our current negation, our schools are so large
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that it's hard to sit down and have
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a, you know, conversation with people.
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And so we're like, how can
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we be more accessible and
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still not, you know, still have a
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life because we are so our lives
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are so full. that
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it's really difficult to actually
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connect with people. And so this is
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supposed to be a little bit of
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a two-way conversation where you're asking questions,
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you're making comments. Christina just said, I
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love your new glasses. Thank you. And the best thing
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about my glasses is that I can actually see. So
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maybe this is the beginning of a new
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era, where the Lord puts the
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glasses on us and we can see further
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and clearer. So that's my goal. But
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I wrote this book, our theme this
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week, this month actually, is
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about identity, like who are you and who's
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God in you and who's God to you.
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And this is my very first
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book, The Supernatural Ways of Royalty, Discovering
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Your Rights and Privileges of
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Being a Son and Daughter of God. And
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so this is the very first book I
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ever wrote. It is actually
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my best-selling book. Bill authored a couple of
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chapters in it too, which obviously
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when I wrote this book, nobody knew who I
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was at all. So that was a
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great marketing ploy right there
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to make sure someone would actually pick up the book
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and read through it. But it
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actually begins with my story,
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I call
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it coming out of pauperhood or coming out of the
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slave mentality. And I've told my story
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over and over, grew up in a pretty tough
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home. And my
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father called me Stupid Ass,
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the first father, my
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two stepfathers. And
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it really created deep wounds
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in my heart. And so
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when I got saved and then later on,
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when I came to Bethel, which was like really 22
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years after I got saved,
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the Lord just began to deal deeply
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with my childhood
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identity issues with my low
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self-esteem, with my
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really self-hatred. And it
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brought me on this journey that, and
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took me on this journey,
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created a journey actually. in
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which I'll say the Lord took me
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out of his slave mentality and brought
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me into sonship. And I think the
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process is frankly still going on. The
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other day I had an encounter with the Lord
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and he said, I want you to stop fearing
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man. And my first thought is I don't
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see where I'm fearing man.
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And then the Lord brought up these
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circumstances that have been happening in the
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last just several months. And I'm like, oh
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yeah, I was trying to meow that one
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too. And so
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I do feel like this is an
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ongoing process of the Lord
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just unveiling himself in us. But
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I just want to begin by sharing
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just a few of the concepts that
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are in the book. And probably the
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most prominent concept is that when we
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receive Jesus Christ, that
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we are no longer sinners. We
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were sinners saved by grace. And so I
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don't think we should be careful
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to never forget where we came from or
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attribute our success to ourselves
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when actually it was the
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power of the cross and the blood of
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Jesus that really transformed us.
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But there are so many
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Christians that are still
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in this mindset. Well, I'm
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still a sinner and I'm saved by grace.
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And aren't we all sinners? I
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just had somebody prominent in the body
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of Christ say, well, we're all sinners
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just saved by grace. And I'm
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like, wow, that is not true. We
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were sinners. And but when
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we received Jesus Christ, we were born again.
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And we were born as sons
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and daughters. And so
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sometimes people are like, you're just being arrogant.
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And arrogant, what's happening
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when you say I'm still a
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sinner after you receive crisis, you've
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demeaned the cross. You've
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lessened the crucifixion and you've
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ignored the board. again
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experience. I was born of the seed
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of God. And you know,
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1 John 1 says, if anybody
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says he hasn't sinned, he makes
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him a liar. 1 John 2 says,
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and if we sin, we
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have an advocate with the Father. In fact,
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it opens, 2nd chapter opens.
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1 John 2 opens with
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this. He says, I'm
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writing to you that you may not sin. Next
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verse, if anyone sins, not when,
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if we have an advocate with
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the Father, Jesus Christ, righteous. And
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then the 3rd chapter of the same book says
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that anyone who's born of
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God cannot practice sin or
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he's actually not born again.
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Because when we were born
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again, we're born of the holy seed of Jesus
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and we become the righteousness of God in Christ
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Jesus. And by the way, I don't
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say that to say, well, if you sin, you
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don't know God. What's happened
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in Christendom is
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that we've actually had some really bad
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teaching. And I've heard
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over and over and from many podiums,
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you know, we're sinners saved by grace
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and you know, we're not perfect. We're
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just forgiven. Those things,
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actually Jesus said, I want you to be
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perfect as my Father in heaven is perfect. And
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so the goal is that we
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would have, you know, in, by grace, we'd
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be, there would be holy perfection, that we'd
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be a holy people. 1 Peter
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goes on to say that we
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are a holy people. We
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are people for God's own possession and
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that we are people called out
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for His excellency. So, you
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know, I just want to put it,
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you know, in your heart and mind
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that the challenges
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is that we are, we
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became righteous by faith. Romans,
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Paul said Romans, that by faith
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we became righteous and If
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we say, well, we're saved by
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grace, but we're not perfect, you
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know, we're just, we're
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all centers. The challenge is that
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what we believe we receive.
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And the challenge there is we're taking away
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the power of the cross because the power
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of the cross is that we actually got
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saved from hell,
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but also from our old nature.
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And we've received a new mind
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and we received a new heart. And
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I've heard people quote Isaiah
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so many times, well, the heart
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is exceedingly wicked, no man can
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know it. That's true
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before we were born again. That's
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true of the world who
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doesn't yet know God, we call
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them pre-believers, but it's not true
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of us. It's Jesus actually
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gave us a heart transplant, took
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our heart out, gave us His, He
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took our mind and He gave us His mind.
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And so, you know, we
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have to have a speech
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that actually matches the
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truth of the Bible. And
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the other part, I love,
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you know, chapters of this book. I
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mean, I still go through this
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and think, oh, yeah, I remember those learning
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those lessons. You know,
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we in that light, it's
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important for us to realize that we are not
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in a war with our old man either, which
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is another challenge. You know, I was
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taught in the Jesus movement by I
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love the Jesus people movement. And,
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you know, people had such a
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wonderful experience in the Lord, but
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sometimes terrible doctrine. And
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we had analogies that they sound
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beautiful. They're just really not accurate.
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Like I was taught as a
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teenager, the year I got saved, you know,
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there was a black dog and a white dog in
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me. The white dog is the
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new man. The black dog is the
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old man. And whatever dog I feed,
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that dog. is that
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dog is the dog that rules my life. And
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I understand that we have to
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give attention to righteousness and that
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there is discipline involved and that
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there's Galatians 5, for
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example, tells us to don't do the
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deeds of the flesh. So there is
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a walking out of our sanctification,
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I get that. But
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the truth is that the black dog,
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the old man, when I received Christ
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and got baptized, that the old man,
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he freaking drowned in the baptismal tank and
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I came out, like when we got put
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under the water, we die with Christ, this
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is Romans 6, by the way. And when
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we came out of the water, we rose
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with Christ. And so the old
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man is dead. And then
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the war, as like in
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Ephesians chapter 6, Paul
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says, our struggle is not against flesh
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and blood, but against rules, against powers,
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against spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly
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places. So we actually, he says, our
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struggle's not against flesh and blood. And
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then in 2 Corinthians chapter
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10, he says the weapons of warfare are
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not in the flesh. In fact, he goes, he
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begins with this, although we walk in the
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flesh, we don't war against the flesh, for
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the weapons of warfare are not in
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the flesh, but divinely powerful for
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the destruction of fortresses. And even though
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we walk in the flesh, even though
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we walk in the sartex, the
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word flesh is sartex in Greek, it's
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not good or evil, it's just
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like sometimes it's used to don't
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do the deeds of the flesh. That's the
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same word, sartex. And
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it's not positive and negative, it's
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the context that you're using it
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that determines the definition. And
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then Paul said, we're supposed to
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nourish and cherish our flesh, the
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same sartex, it's the same word.
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Like I'm supposed to nourish
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and cherish my flesh. David said, my
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soul and my flesh cry out for
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the living God. But in
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that context, he's not talking about his. his
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wickedness, he's talking about the fact
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that his whole being loves God.
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And so I think that, you
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know, Jesus, the word became flesh, Sorex,
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the same word, and dwelt among us.
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The word didn't become flesh and that
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flesh was evil. That word
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became flesh and dwelt among
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us means that God actually took on
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flesh and his righteousness was displayed in
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his body, in his physical body. So
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I think it's really important for us to realize
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that I'm to nourish and cherish my flesh,
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not my old man, but my new
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man. And I
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think that there's a lot of people that
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through faith in
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believing that they are
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still a sinner, that they're
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supposed to be fighting their flesh, that
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they actually never come into
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the full sanctification, the full
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sanctification that Jesus paid for on the cross,
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because honestly, they have really bad
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theology. And Isaiah
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cried out that
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my people perish for a lack of knowledge.
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And so what
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happens when I believe
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bad doctrine is I actually
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empower doctrine that shouldn't be
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empowered in my life. And
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I become a victim and
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I walk like a victim and I feel like
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a victim. And I'm like, I'm
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not a victim. I'm a child of the
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King. Now someone may have victimized me, but
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I'll tell you what, I don't want my
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identity to be in someone else's actions in
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my life. Let me say that again. I
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don't want my identity. I
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don't want to think from the core
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value that because someone views me, therefore
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I am
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their perpetuated evil on me. What
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they did to me became my identity.
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I'm sorry, I may have been
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victimized, but I don't want to be a victim.
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I don't want to see myself. as
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a power's pundit of someone
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else's actions. And I
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think it's really important, I was sharing this with a friend
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of mine, that
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Christians have, in
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my opinion, and again, this is a broad
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statement, so it wouldn't fit everybody, have
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largely taken on a victim mentality.
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So if their church doesn't get
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the building permits, like,
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oh, because we're Christians. If we
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don't get into this certain, accept
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it in a certain school, oh, it's
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because we're Christians. And there's enough persecution
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to actually validate that that's
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sometimes true. But it's like
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someone being a certain ethnic group, and like, well, I
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didn't get the job because I'm black, or I
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didn't get the job because I'm white, or didn't get
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the job because I'm Asian, or I didn't get the
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job. And what
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happens when I relegate everything
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to being a victim
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is, first of all, if I didn't get the
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job because I'm not qualified, or I didn't get
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the job because there was someone better, or
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I didn't get in because I was late to
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the party, so to speak, or
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I didn't fill out the application right,
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or whatever the other hundreds of reasons
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why I didn't actually move
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forward, but I relegated to my ethnic
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group, or I relegated to my Christianity,
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I make myself a victim, and I begin to
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look through that lens, that victim
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lens, and say, well, it's because I'm
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a Christian, I'm just being persecuted for
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Christ. Well, maybe you were not qualified.
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Maybe you didn't fill out the
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paperwork right. Maybe you came too late
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to whatever. Maybe you
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just, maybe you actually, maybe there was
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someone who was more qualified than you, but my
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point is, I actually can't,
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if I don't accept that
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I'm not a victim, and
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there's these other reasons why I
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was unqualified, then I actually can't
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change my qualification because I relegated
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to reason. to
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my victimhood. And I'm like, I
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know that there are people in
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this city and in the world who hate me.
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I understand that. Jesus said, if you love me
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and you follow me,
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you will be persecuted. So
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there is real persecution. The challenge with
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real persecution is it creates a mindset
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of victimhood. And pretty soon we're viewing
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the world through, you know, I'm this
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victim no one likes. And so I
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show up places thinking no one likes
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me, you know, people don't want
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me here. And I'm like,
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no, no, people who are sinners
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love Jesus being around. They invited
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him to parties, although he was
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perfect. You know, the perfect person
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in most of our lives were like, I don't want John
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around because, you know, if we're over
16:48
here drinking and smoking dope, John's like
16:50
makes us feel guilty. But they
16:52
actually invited Jesus to their
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drunken parties. So the place where the
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outside people identified Jesus,
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you know, through the people he
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hung out with, it was guilty through, you know,
17:05
through partnership with sinners, right? It
17:07
was guilty through association. So like,
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well, it's Jesus, a wine bibber.
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Jesus is a drunker. Jesus
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is a party goer. And
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actually, Jesus showed up at those
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places, but those places didn't change
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him. They he had influence
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on them. He was not a victim.
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So I want to say that
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it is very it's super important that
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we that
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we actually carry ourselves as
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children of God, like our
17:37
dad is king of every king.
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He's Lord of every Lord. He's
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the creator of all the universes. And
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I don't know how you grow up in
17:47
the family of God and think, poor me.
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You know, something, you know, people don't like me. Like,
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if people don't like you, that's their
17:55
problem. But when we when
17:58
we carry ourselves like victims. we
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become unlikable. We become reacting
18:03
to people. We're thinking of,
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you know, we're
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thinking like, well John's not gonna like
18:10
me. And what happens is we create
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a kind of rejectable kind of personhood.
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And so I
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really want us to think through in the
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next few weeks like, who
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are you? In fact, the exercise that I
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have for you this week is
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I'd love for you to sit down and write
18:28
down five things that God says about you. Like,
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God, who am I? Who
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am I to you? Because whoever
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God, and the second part
18:38
of this is who is God to you? Because
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whoever God is to you, He will be through
18:43
you. If I asked you
18:45
the question, who is God? And you said, oh
18:47
God's the lover of the broken. God loves
18:50
broken people. He heals the sick. You
18:52
know, He loves the
18:55
underdog. He's for the person
18:57
that's had a tough road.
18:59
He's for the broken. He loves
19:02
the brokenhearted. You
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know, what you're describing isn't just
19:07
who God is to you. You're also describing who
19:10
God is through you. There's a question on here,
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how do I find my career path? I don't
19:14
know how you find your career path, but I
19:16
know how you find your calling. Your
19:18
calling is often identified by who Jesus
19:21
is to you. So when Jesus said
19:23
to the disciples, who do people that
19:25
say that I am? And you
19:28
know, Peter says, well, you know, the guys
19:30
are like, some say, you know, John the
19:32
Baptist raised for the dead. Some say a
19:34
prophet. And Jesus says, who do
19:36
you say I am? And the Greek,
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it says, who am I to you? And
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Peter says, you're the Christ, you're the
19:43
Son of God. You're,
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you're, you know, and he begins
19:48
to recount that he's the
19:50
Christ. He's the anointed one. He's
19:52
the Son of God. He's the
19:54
Savior. And Jesus is like, and
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your name is Peter. You're
19:58
rock. upon this rock
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while I built my church and the gates of Hades
20:02
shall not prevail against it." And you
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know Jesus says to Peter,
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and who do you say I am? And
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he's like, you're the Christ, you're the anointed
20:12
one, you're the one anointed with power. And
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Jesus said, and that's right, and the gates
20:16
of hell will not prevail against you. And
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you know he's like, you
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see me as the God
20:24
of power and I
20:26
have anointed you to display the power of
20:28
God. And I think that I
20:31
want to give you this exercise in which you
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ask yourself, first of all, who is God to
20:36
me? And then who is God
20:38
through me? And I think this is really,
20:41
really important. And then next week we're
20:43
going to expand on this. We're going to
20:45
go through a couple more of these chapters.
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I'm pretty excited about it. There's a chapter
20:49
called The Dogs, The Dogs that Dooms Stand
20:51
at the Doors of Destiny. It's like, how
20:54
do I know when I'm entering
20:57
into my promised land? Well, there's a dog
20:59
of doom, there's a giant in every promised
21:01
land. What do I do about that? I
21:04
want to talk more about our identity,
21:07
how we
21:10
actually manage our inner world. How
21:12
do I make sure that the
21:14
kingdom within me becomes the kingdom around me?
21:17
Because you know if we take a pauper and you put him
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in a palace, he'll make the palace a prison. But
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if you take a prince, you put him in a
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prison, he'll make the prison a palace. Like
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this is the story of Joseph in the Old Testament.
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They put him in prison, he becomes in charge of
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the prison. And listen, if you understand who
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you are and who you are
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and who is with you, listen,
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there's nobody that's going to be
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able to imprison your soul because
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wherever you go, Jesus goes
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with you. If they put you in
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the fire like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
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there's going to be a fourth man
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in the fire because not God isn't
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just with you, he's actually moving through
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you and you are not a victim.
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Well it's been great being with you. I
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see there's some questions. I'll try to
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attack those questions next week. I
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hope you have a wonderful, wonderful
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week. And remember this, you are
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a child of the King of
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Kings and the Lord of Lords, and you
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are sitting at the right hand of the
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Father on the throne of Christ. Thank
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you so much for listening to my podcast. To
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stay connected, you can sign up for my weekly
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newsletter at chrisvelleton.com forward
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slash subscribe. God
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bless you.
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