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serial entrepreneur with a specific focus

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in the health and wellness space . She

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is a leader in helping millions around the world feel their

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best by healing their body with the strategies found in

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her book Eat Right for your Information

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Type , and has also mentored over a thousand

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health and wellness professionals in voting and growing

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their own online business . Maggie

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has an impressive educational background as well

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, graduating with honors from Vanderbilt University

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and her undergraduate and graduate careers , and

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attending the Institute for Functional Medicine and

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various other advanced curriculum institutions

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. For her deepened knowledge and functional

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and integrative health , Maggie

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has been featured in hundreds of places , including Forbes

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, Business Insider , entrepreneurial Magazine , Oxygen

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Magazine , Under Armour , USA Today , local and National

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Television, and Top Rated Podcast . She

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is also the mother of three young children

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. You can visit Maggie and learn more about her story and

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background at MaggieBerghoff . com

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and in our interviews . You're going to hear Maggie

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talk about functional medicine , optimizing

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your health and raising healthy kids a lot

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of practical things here and I don't often bring

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health experts on , but this is an area that

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I'm starting to focus on and prioritize as well , so

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with all that being said , let's dive right in . Here's my conversation

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with Maggie Berghoff . Maggie

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Berghoff , welcome to the L3 Leadership Podcast

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. I've been looking forward to this conversation and

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, for those who may not be familiar with us , why don't we just start

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with you just telling us a little bit about who you are and what

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you do .

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Yeah , well , I'm excited to be here too . I am

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an entrepreneur in the online space . I actually

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built my own online functional medicine practice

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in 2017 . And

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then , a few years later , we also launched

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an online business and marketing company very

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similar , related to the wellness space , but helping

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other business owners , other health and wellness professionals

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, to build and scale their own online companies

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. And I'm a mom of three , so

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I have a lot of different things that we

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chat through business , wellness , motherhood

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, all of the things .

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Yeah , and the most exciting thing that I think is happening

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in your life is you're launching a book which is right behind

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you Eat the Treat and so

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why don't you just kind of give us a basic overview

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of why did you write this book and what do you want readers

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to get out of it ?

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Well , my favorite thing about the book is that it's not just about

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eating . Of course it's called Eat to Treat

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, but it's actually the three step , the exact

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three step plan that I would teach my private

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health clients in our functional medicine practice to

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rebalancing their body and healing . We focus

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on finding out what's going on to

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cause your symptoms your nagging symptoms or your chronic

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diseases and then how to create an environment

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that allows your body to heal and detoxify

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. And then , of course , not just what to eat

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, but also mindset around

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nutrition . And I just love because

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, for a pretty , very

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accessible price , you can grab this book and

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dive into exactly what

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I would teach all of our high level private one-on-one

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clients and get this information implemented

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in your own life . So by far my favorite part

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is the accessibility for you to

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take charge of your own health .

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Yeah , and I want to start with just asking really basic questions

4:44

, because functional medicine , I feel like , is blowing

4:46

up over the past five years . I'm sure you've seen that

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too , but I still think there's a lot of people out there

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maybe listening to this and just saying what

4:53

is functional medicine and why does that matter

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? Can you talk to us about that ?

4:56

That's so true . Actually , when I first

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started my business my functional medicine business I

5:00

was like one of the weirdo first ones

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, especially online , and now

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, thankfully , it's a little bit more widespread

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and I also had no idea what the word

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meant . Actually , I had

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a health journey in my young 20s which

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led me to all of this , and I got

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super sick and all these doctors were telling

5:18

me that there was nothing wrong with me , my labs

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looked normal , all this stuff and I

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was not feeling well . And so an

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aunt of mine told me to Google functional

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medicine and she was like Maggie , just

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get on Google and type in functional medicine

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, go down this rabbit hole , because this

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is what you need , this is what's going to heal your body

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. And let me tell you , I went down the

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rabbit hole . I actually went back to school

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and got certified and

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specialized in functional and integrative

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medicine , and so what this means is

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essentially combining traditional

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medicine I , of course , have that knowledge too , and

5:51

I believe there's a time and place for pharmaceuticals

5:53

and traditional medicine but it's finding

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out what's actually going on in your body , the

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actual imbalances and the

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complications that you are having , and then how

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to rewire and rebalance

6:05

your body to actually heal

6:07

, instead of just give it a pharmaceutical

6:09

medication to feel better . So

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we're actually getting deep into

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your biochemical individuality

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, figuring out what's going on in your

6:18

body and then fixing it instead

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of covering it up with medications . It's

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really , really about rebalancing and

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healing .

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Yeah , and so to give people a practical idea

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, so you talked about your healing journey when you got introduced

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to it . What did that actually look like ? Was it literally

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just taking blood work and figuring out what you need to change

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, eating wise , or what happened ?

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Well , ok , first of all , the blood work is

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different in traditional medicine than functional

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medicine . So in the traditional medicine

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model , my blood work was normal

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at first and that's why doctors were telling me

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you're fine , even though I was

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like I was crying and I was so bloated

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, no matter what I ate , and I didn't have any periods

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and all this kind of stuff was going wrong . But

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they were telling me I'm fine because my lab

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said I was so . In functional

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medicine we actually have access to more

7:02

specialty testing where we can find

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out lots of information as far as detailed

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hormone pathways , detox pathways

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. Do you have a parasite

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in your gut ? Do you have hormonal

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imbalances and neurotransmitter imbalances

7:16

? What are your nutrient levels ? Do

7:18

you have heavy metal toxicity All

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these different things that you can find out through saliva

7:23

, blood , stool and urine and hair for

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what's going on in your body . So it was those

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tests that helped guide my

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path to healing , finding out what was actually

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going on in my body and then

7:34

healing it in that way . So it did matter

7:37

what types of tests you're running on your body .

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Yeah , so you ran these tests , and so what did it actually

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show and what did you change that

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made a difference ?

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For me . I had severe nutrient

7:47

imbalances . Like

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they give you all the different nutrient levels , you know

7:51

magnesium D , all the B's , all everything

7:53

and mine were like all the way to the left in the tank

7:55

, red . So if

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you don't have the right nutrients

8:00

, your body

8:02

is not going to be able to do what it's supposed to do . But

8:04

if you give your body what it needs

8:06

, it's going to be able to do more than any

8:08

the smartest doctor in the world or the smartest pill

8:10

in the world will do . So your body wants

8:13

to heal itself . We have to give it a helping hand direction

8:15

. So I had severe nutrient

8:17

deficiencies even though I

8:19

already was eating organic and healthy

8:22

and hitting the gym every day . So that's important to know

8:24

. I didn't . I was not like an unhealthy

8:27

person from what most me

8:29

would would seem . They would look at me and think I

8:31

was healthy already . I wasn't . I also

8:33

had really high levels of aluminum

8:35

and copper toxicity in my body

8:37

. That was just , you know , ruining

8:40

me and I had overgrowth of

8:42

bacteria , the bad bacteria in my gut

8:44

lining . That was also causing

8:46

a lot of complications . So there was just kind of like

8:48

this perfect storm . In

8:50

addition to hormonal imbalances

8:52

I already mentioned , I didn't have a period and I had

8:54

low thyroid . Now I will

8:56

kind of explain a little bit of functional

8:59

medicine versus traditional medicine . So I had

9:01

low thyroid . Now in traditional medicine

9:03

they would say you have a low thyroid here

9:06

, take this thyroid pill . In functional

9:08

medicine we're saying Whoa , your thyroid is

9:10

low . I wonder why . Let's figure out why

9:13

your thyroid might be underacting and

9:15

what we can do to fix it . That's

9:17

a really like concrete example of kind of the

9:19

difference between the two models .

9:22

Yeah , so it sounds like . Well , I guess , the

9:24

way I understand it too , there's also kind of two needs for

9:26

functional medicine . So one , hey , there's something

9:28

wrong with my body , which sounds like it was your story

9:30

. You went and obviously we're able to figure out

9:32

what was wrong and fix it that way . The

9:34

other , and I guess I'm just asking

9:36

, like my view on it I'm interested in this

9:38

space . I haven't really taken the dive in , but

9:41

I'm also interested in , like , optimizing my

9:43

health , and so for me it's like I want to get

9:45

in the best shape possible , I want to do everything I

9:47

can to live as long as I can , et

9:50

cetera , and so that's what I'm looking for . So can people

9:52

who may not feel something wrong with their body also benefit

9:54

, like I'm talking about , when it comes to optimizing

9:57

their health ?

9:57

Yeah , so actually , that is kind of

9:59

my specialty . So , eat a tree is written

10:02

for anyone and everyone in

10:04

their health complications or in their performance

10:06

, but most of my private clientele are

10:08

in your boat of high performance , and

10:10

we've done lots of episodes of this as well

10:12

, but what you can do is the same types of things

10:15

. Your objective for testing your body , though , is different . You

10:17

want to fine tune and optimize . Just like

10:19

in business , you want to look at the funnel and

10:21

fine tune and optimize what's going on so

10:23

you can get the most of it . Same

10:25

with your body . So , as somebody who's looking for more

10:27

performance , anti-aging , longevity

10:30

, get the detailed lab testing down

10:32

on your body at least once a year to figure

10:34

out where you are . Do you have imbalances

10:36

that you didn't know about ? Did you catch a pick

10:39

, up , a parasite on that trip to wherever

10:41

Mexico , wherever right ? Like you , want to

10:43

keep on tracking your body , especially

10:46

as everybody you know , ages

10:48

. What are your hormones doing ? You

10:50

mentioned you have four kids . I have three kids . Let

10:52

me tell you I am not sleeping the best ever

10:55

, and so I know that

10:57

my body is not optimized , but

10:59

what I can do , even though I'm not sleeping

11:01

well , even though sometimes I do

11:03

stay up late when I'm traveling

11:05

or working or something like that . What

11:08

can I do to optimize regardless

11:10

so that my body can handle those hits and stay

11:12

well long-term ? And the way to do that is through

11:14

lab testing and then , of course , the day

11:17

, like part two and three in the book the daily lifestyle

11:19

and nutrition needs for your body .

11:22

Yeah , I want to get to that , but to stick with the labs

11:24

because this is interesting to me . So

11:26

again , most people would be like I'll have to go to the doctor and turn that in

11:28

. How can people find next

11:30

steps of that ? Like , do they need to find a functional medicine

11:33

doctor in their area ? Do they just like

11:35

go out to you and they can send their labs to you ? Like , what

11:37

would be the next steps if someone wanted to do that

11:39

?

11:40

This is going to be controversial , because not

11:43

all functional medicines I'm talking about

11:45

how awesome functional medicine is and it saved

11:47

my life , right and not all functional

11:49

medicine or integrated medicine practitioners

11:51

are created equally , just like not

11:54

every doctor is like the most awesome doctor

11:56

, okay , so I , in my healing

11:58

journey , I have been to a handful

12:00

of functional providers that were not good

12:02

and they wanted to just stick

12:04

me on like 20 supplements and they gave me this

12:07

big binder of this one size fits all plan

12:09

to follow for the next three months . It was not

12:11

good , so I guess

12:13

I would hope that you could find a functional

12:15

medicine practitioner or coach that

12:17

you love to work with . However it's

12:20

, the first one is a blow . Don't

12:22

give up because it's not always so easy

12:24

, but what I do love nowadays

12:27

is that you can be empowered

12:29

and take control of your own health , much like

12:31

I did as I healed my body and

12:33

went back to school to learn about how to heal my body

12:35

. You can do that for yourself now . So

12:38

someone like you , doug , or maybe a lot of your listeners

12:40

if you're motivated to find out what's

12:42

going on in your body , there are ways that you can

12:44

order your own tests and the lab

12:46

can give you a print off of your exact results

12:49

and you can go down that rabbit hole for your own

12:51

body optimization . And it's amazing

12:54

, and you can even . Actually , we have recently

12:56

partnered with a lab company that allows our

12:58

followers and audience to order their lab straight

13:00

from my website , so you can go

13:02

and just click through the labs I order our private

13:04

clients and get them yourself , and then

13:06

you have that power to find

13:09

out what's going on in your body , not have to hire somebody

13:11

, not have to wait for an appointment or

13:13

get off of a wait list . But it's a lot

13:15

more accessible of a price point because you're not charging

13:18

for any consulting or coaching . You just get to

13:20

order yourself .

13:21

Yeah , and we can include links to all of that in the show notes . So

13:24

would you still recommend that route to versus

13:26

functional medicine , or would you say everyone

13:28

kind of has to figure out what works best for them ?

13:30

I think everybody learns different and everybody

13:32

is in a different situation . Also , even financially

13:35

, sometimes it's a really large investment to

13:37

hire somebody , or

13:39

your functional medicine provider in town

13:41

might have I know . For me , one that I wanted

13:43

to go to was like a nine month wait list . Don't

13:45

wait nine months to take control of your health , like , get this

13:47

ASAP . So it really just depends . I

13:50

think in general , I

13:52

want to empower people to take charge of

13:54

their own health , and so I think you should learn

13:56

about your body and it's going to help

13:58

you to help yourself in a better way

14:00

. If you yourself are getting this

14:03

lab done and you get the print off

14:05

and you can read about your body , it's going

14:07

to soak in and retain more and it's , I

14:09

think , going to help you get better results than just

14:11

showing up to an office and being like what do I do ? And

14:13

then then telling you what to do but it's not going to stick the same

14:15

because you don't really understand the reasonings . Why so really

14:18

? I would go the less expensive , easier , faster

14:20

route and order your own tests and

14:22

then perhaps hire a coach , a functional

14:24

medicine coach or consultant or an online

14:26

practitioner to help you through your journey

14:28

. So , basically , I really think that to

14:31

take control of your own health in this

14:33

accessible way , but I do still see a huge

14:35

value of working with someone specialized

14:37

in rebalancing the body and

14:40

also someone who can keep you accountable to your

14:42

goals . So I do think it's still valuable

14:44

. It just depends on your situation .

14:46

Yeah . So the first step is to really just take

14:48

a step and take an interest in your health and

14:51

get blood work . So you sold me on

14:53

that . Actually , we put in our health insurance

14:55

this year like we are going to do that . So my wife

14:57

and I , we send out our blood work . It

14:59

comes back . We see the results . Now let's get

15:01

to the practical . How does this impact

15:03

our everyday life and lifestyle ? What

15:05

are the steps and what are the next steps after you receive

15:08

the results ?

15:10

Well , and it's not just blood . So some of

15:12

them might be like we have a three day stool exam

15:14

that I really love to do on clients saliva

15:16

, a hair test , urine , urine

15:18

test . So there's lots of different ways that we can test

15:20

what's going on in the body , but it's all kind of like the hard

15:22

, concrete information of

15:24

what's going on in your body right now . Now , based off those

15:27

results , either the lab is

15:29

going to tell you or your practitioner or your doctor will

15:31

tell you maybe some supplements or even

15:33

medications that you might want to take in this moment . And

15:35

again , like that's important to know , I'm not against

15:37

all medications . You might need

15:39

a medication to get you to that next

15:42

point of healing as you heal on your

15:44

journey . It's all about the right time , duration

15:46

and purpose , but you

15:48

also might be able to do it completely without

15:51

medications . But maybe there are some

15:53

core supplementations that are really going to help

15:55

you . For example , I said earlier on I had

15:57

really high aluminum levels . I

16:00

needed to detox my body , and eating

16:02

green leafies wasn't going to do that

16:04

enough . I needed some help , and

16:06

so like it is important sometimes

16:08

to take a supplementation or even a medication

16:11

in that interim . So you're

16:13

taking something to help your body , but

16:15

then you are doing lifestyle

16:18

and nutrition measures to

16:20

heal long term . So

16:23

with that we have a lot of different lifestyle

16:25

things you can do to detox daily without

16:27

supplementations or medications , but actually

16:29

detoxing , lowering inflammation

16:31

, a lot of mindset strategies

16:33

and then , of course , nutrition . So we can dive

16:35

into a lot of different aspects

16:37

, kind of where do you want to go for your listeners today

16:40

?

16:40

Yeah , I'd love to dive into the nutrition

16:42

specifically and just lowering

16:45

inflammation . What are some things we can do every

16:47

day to do that ?

16:49

Okay . So obviously I

16:51

could talk for 10 hours straight

16:53

on this , but a few core implementation

16:56

things that you can do today for your nutrition

16:58

is , I do find , if you are struggling

17:01

and depends where you are on the inflammation

17:03

spectrum , we have a quiz actually two quizzes

17:05

that tells you where

17:07

you are in the inflammation spectrum and your

17:09

type of inflammation , as well as

17:11

another one that tells you what your total toxic

17:13

burden is . So if you're I want

17:16

to preface this if you're , total toxic burden

17:18

level is like crazy high , you've got toxicities

17:20

coming in at you from all over the place , you're

17:22

so inflamed and you're feeling crappy . You'll

17:25

have to be a little bit more straight or have to do a little bit

17:27

more things in your lifestyle

17:29

and in your nutrition , whereas if you're coming

17:31

in maybe like you , doug , you work out , you

17:33

eat healthy , you're looking to optimize your total toxic

17:35

burden might be a little bit lower and

17:37

so you'll want to do some different things . So it really

17:40

is dependent on where you're coming from , but most

17:42

clients who are actively struggling

17:44

feel better when they

17:46

remove dairy and

17:49

grains and not just gluten . Most people are

17:51

like gluten free , but specifically grains

17:53

because they're hard to digest , so even like organic

17:56

, gluten free brown rice it's

17:58

. It might not help your body , but everybody

18:00

is unique so . But most

18:02

people feel better if they're inflamed

18:04

currently to reduce dairy

18:07

and grains and

18:09

everybody should focus

18:11

on more real food

18:13

, less packaged goods . So I

18:15

call this in the book like a refrigerator

18:18

and a pantry detox . So

18:21

, looking in your pantry or looking in your refrigerator

18:23

and get rid of all the things that are

18:25

expired I promise there are probably

18:27

things in there that like expired two

18:30

years ago and you just had no idea like

18:32

throw those out , make some new space for

18:34

the new , and then to look at

18:36

the things that you know are not great

18:39

for your body and find healthier

18:41

options for those things . Step one is swapping

18:43

. I've had clients who love

18:45

eating starburst every night Swap

18:48

their starbursts with just the organic

18:50

fruit juice . So , looking

18:52

at your pantry , looking at your fridge and finding

18:54

what could I swap ? A healthier

18:56

version of this Oreo , a better option

18:59

for my pasta , and you know this

19:01

. For this , what can you swap ? And that's

19:03

a huge . It's going to take your information down incredibly

19:05

in just one week .

19:08

And I'll speak to that . You know , when I was younger

19:10

I was I was heavier and always struggled and

19:12

really had to learn a lot about nutrition and

19:14

that , like when people come to me and ask me to talk

19:16

to them about how can they lose weight and get into

19:18

shape , I said , if you just track what you eat for

19:20

two weeks , I could tell you . Sub

19:22

this for this , of this , for this , and you'll see a massive

19:25

difference . Like I'm shocked . Yeah One

19:27

. I've never heard somebody starburst every night

19:29

. That's hilarious . I

19:32

love this advice . Yeah , just actually looking for

19:34

substitutes that are healthy and I'm sure

19:36

you can speak to this too it's not like

19:38

it's , it's less quality

19:40

, like the food's actually better taste

19:42

. Oh yeah , yeah .

19:44

It's so . Luckily in today's world there are

19:46

so many options for these swaps . You can

19:48

still have the exact same foods you

19:50

want , whatever you're craving . They're the healthier

19:52

option out there and it reduces inflammation

19:55

. You talked about weight loss . For

19:57

the people like who are coming to you wanting to lose weight , if

19:59

you had a client tell me after one week or anxiety

20:02

decreased by 75%

20:04

just from the food , this is because

20:06

of the ingredients of the food . It's not

20:08

that they're not eating sugar , it's that

20:10

the ingredients are higher quality , better

20:12

options and they're a healthier swap

20:14

. So there's less inflammation . It's amazing

20:16

and it's like you said . It's not

20:19

like you're not , it's not like you're eating salads every

20:21

day , like you can eat your favorite foods , just in

20:23

a healthier way .

20:24

Yeah , what is your thoughts on sugar in general

20:27

?

20:28

Well , I think reducing it is best

20:30

. So I keep saying the word reducing . The

20:32

reason is that I'm big on mindset

20:34

around nutrition too . I have worked with

20:36

a lot of people who have a lot of fear around

20:38

food or , you know , doing some

20:41

kind of diet or some of well , a wellness

20:43

journey throws them into eating disorders

20:45

or binge eating because they're restricting

20:47

and then they're going all out on the weekends things like

20:49

that , starting over on Monday . I could talk about this all day

20:51

long , but I really want to focus

20:54

on reducing , because if you

20:56

can focus on reducing things and then

20:58

adding and flooding your body with the

21:00

nutrients that it needs , when you're

21:02

adding like what can I add , what can I add

21:04

and then you're cognizantly reducing

21:06

the other stuff , your body will start to

21:08

balance out and you'll start to crave healthier options

21:10

. So , for your question about what I think about

21:13

sugar do I think it has health benefits

21:15

? No , so we can definitely

21:17

reduce that from our body , and if you

21:19

are focused on healing

21:21

your body you know I talked about grains

21:23

and dairy knock out sugar too , and you're gonna feel

21:25

better , right . So it's really , where

21:28

do you want to focus ? Do you want to feel really

21:30

a lot better . Right now , sugar

21:32

is not going to help you get to that goal , and

21:35

so we can reduce or eliminate that

21:37

. And then , when you do eat sugar , there

21:39

are healthier versions of that , like coconut

21:42

sugar or fruit sugar , that you can

21:44

sweeten things with .

21:45

Yeah , so your book's called Eat the Treat . So

21:48

in general and I want you to coach me here like , be

21:50

strict with me . Whatever you would tell your client , like I'm

21:52

big on like the 80s , 20s , 90s , 10s I

21:55

try to eat pretty healthy most of the time but on weekends

21:57

like one weekend night a week , like

21:59

with the kids I'm like I love ice cream so

22:01

it's like , hey , we're all having ice cream tonight . Like in

22:04

general , we'll once a week offset

22:06

. You know the results that you've achieved over the last six

22:08

days . I'm just curious your thoughts on actual

22:10

days or cheat meals .

22:13

Yeah , no , it doesn't . So , just

22:15

like , eating one healthy meal is not going to

22:17

heal your body , so you can't expect to eat healthy

22:19

for two days and then be like it's not working , like you can't expect

22:22

that . But one ice cream

22:24

cone on a Saturday night with your kiddos isn't either

22:26

. In fact it might actually help

22:28

your body because maybe it brings joy and happiness

22:30

and memories . So I'm big on that

22:32

and in fact that

22:35

it reminds me of a client one time who

22:37

, like , apologized to me because they ate

22:39

like a piece of pie at like , this family gathering

22:41

and I'm like , dude , eat the

22:43

pie . It was a spell and I just

22:45

felt , you know , that anxiety

22:47

and that worry and that stress and the fact that he even apologized

22:50

to me on a meeting the next week . That

22:52

causes more damage than eating that pie

22:54

in and of itself the mental

22:56

stress and mental inflammation

22:58

of that . So for me I

23:01

really like the balance of

23:04

that , but then enjoying it , it

23:06

also so say this is , this is

23:08

all about the mindset around nutrition . Say , you're eating

23:10

that ice cream cone if you're like , oh my God , I

23:12

have to go to the gym extra tomorrow . I shouldn't be doing this

23:14

. Maggie's going to be mad at me . This is going to ruin all my things

23:16

. It's probably going to

23:18

cause your body damage . This also your

23:20

stress and your causing your body anxiety and

23:23

your sympathetic nervous system is

23:25

going off , which causes inflammation . And

23:27

when your sympathetic nervous system is off

23:29

, your digestive system or when

23:31

your sympathetic is on , your digestive system is

23:33

off and so now you can't

23:36

even properly digest that ice cream cone

23:38

and everything's a mess and your stress . But

23:41

if you just eat that ice cream cone and you're like this is the best

23:43

day ever , I'm so freaking grateful for my family . Oh

23:46

my gosh , this is amazing . What a beautiful

23:48

sunset . You're calm , your

23:51

parasympathetic nervous system is activated , so

23:54

you're going to be able to digest that cone

23:56

properly and you're enjoying your life and your time . So

23:58

hopefully that explains that . That

24:00

would be my true advice to everybody in that situation .

24:02

No , I think that's so good and , taking mindset

24:04

into account , enjoy as well . You

24:06

mentioned we've been talking we both have children

24:08

. Now this is really important . So like

24:10

I had no boundaries growing up , like

24:13

I remember if you ever seen Home Alone when Macaulay Culkin eats

24:15

like 10 scoops of ice cream with everything on him , like

24:17

I used to do that , which is terrible . So

24:20

I feel like you know , for my wife and I , you know we value health , we

24:24

want to make sure we raise healthy kids , but I'm sure it's the same with you , the

24:27

on the go lifestyle , like four kids under seven , this one's got to go

24:29

, like it's insane . And I'm just

24:31

curious what advice do you have to parents

24:33

out there , like how

24:35

can we really set up our children for success when

24:37

it comes to health and nutrition ?

24:38

Yeah , so for for me , I also have

24:40

three kids and they're all . I had three kids

24:42

within three years , so they're

24:44

all very young . Yes , so

24:47

, but for me it was a little

24:49

bit opposite is that when you grew up , you had no boundaries

24:51

. When

24:53

I grew up , I saw a mom who was always

24:55

on a diet , to be honest , and always

24:57

wanted to lose weight and always was frustrated

24:59

or thought the ice cream code was bad Right , and

25:03

so I had kind of an opposite

25:05

effect where I viewed

25:07

food as bad or good , or if I wanted to be skinny , I needed to

25:09

eat less things like that . So

25:12

for for me , in general , I feel with our children

25:14

, I'm very balanced around it . I'm big on the mindset

25:16

around nutrition . We only we really only

25:18

buy organic . I'm

25:21

grateful we buy organic . Our whole house is gluten free , dairy

25:23

free , except for some goat cheese , and

25:26

that is just our norm . And we have

25:28

candy , but we don't have that . And we have candy

25:30

, but it's the organic , healthier

25:32

versions of candy , and

25:35

that's our norm . We make cookies and muffins

25:37

and brownies . It's the healthier versions

25:39

of those things . Now , so

25:41

our kids inflammation is automatically

25:43

lower , but they're still eating this brownie . They

25:45

don't even really know the difference . They love this stuff

25:47

because it's so good . But

25:50

the key thing is when they are out

25:52

, if they're at a birthday party , if we're out to

25:55

eat , I'm not judging

25:57

or telling them what they should or shouldn't have

25:59

. So if they are wanting to order

26:01

mac and cheese off this menu , I'm like amazing

26:03

, that looks so good . How is it I'm

26:05

not telling them ? You know , you shouldn't really have it if it's

26:07

not gluten free . So I'm really

26:10

balanced around . I don't

26:12

want them to binge eat , I don't want them to fear food

26:14

and I don't want them to have a negative mindset towards

26:16

this . But of course I want them to be healthy

26:18

because I care about them . I don't want to flood my children with

26:20

food ice and artificial flavorings and

26:23

things like that . That is a very standard , for the

26:25

American diet at least . So I care

26:27

about them . So I don't want them to eat those foods

26:29

, but I also want their mindset . That's my approach

26:32

to things . We have healthier swaps , but

26:34

I'm not freaked out if they eat Domino's

26:36

pizza on this Friday school day or

26:38

whatever it is .

26:40

Do you have any favorite like go to snacks

26:42

, or like quick on the go foods before

26:45

school or anything ? I would love to hear .

26:47

Yes , this is like one of my favorite things because

26:49

we are so we're so . I

26:51

feel like , I guess , normal

26:53

in the sense of busy on the

26:55

go , you know , grabbing the snacks but

26:57

healthier options . Some of my favorite

27:00

brands Siate is a great one

27:02

, so S

27:04

I E T ? E . They make a lot of

27:06

great condiments , as well as

27:08

wraps , like our kids love their Siate

27:10

wraps . They have crackers . They have all

27:12

different things . We love simple mills this

27:15

is a shout out to all . My favorite ramp . Simple mills

27:17

is great . They have great cupcakes . We

27:20

do birthday cakes with them , brownies

27:22

. We also have crackers

27:24

that our kids love . Made good

27:26

. They love their granola bars , and

27:28

so do I . They're so good . So

27:30

, yeah , made good is a good

27:32

brand too . They've got granola bars , They've got little balls

27:35

cookies . And then I

27:37

would say the last most common one in our

27:39

household is a brand called Lesser Evil

27:41

, and Lesser Evil we love their popcorn

27:44

, and they have lots of other snacks too , like puffs

27:46

for the kids , and our babies

27:48

grew up on Lesser Evil . Little like the little puffs

27:50

, but they're the healthier versions that actually

27:52

have good things in them . So there's some good

27:54

brands I love . I could go on and

27:56

on , but yeah , we have

27:58

a lot of resources for your people . Obviously you're interested

28:01

in this too . There's so many . We have like a whole

28:03

huge like non-toxic pantry

28:05

swap list linking all of our favorite stuff

28:07

that you can get access to for free on our sites .

28:09

Wonderful . So , yeah , we'll include links again to that

28:11

all in the show notes . I

28:13

want to talk a little bit . Yeah , there's so much I

28:16

could go on for like two hours of this Talked

28:19

about on the food side . You talked about eating real food

28:21

. What should people be looking for , like

28:23

, if they have no idea what any of this means ? Like , what

28:26

should they start to look for in their food to tell

28:28

whether or not what they're eating is healthy when they

28:30

go grocery shopping ? And so do you

28:32

have any hacks for them ?

28:33

Yes . So if you have no idea , like , where

28:35

to start , at the grocery store , most

28:38

of the real food best

28:40

options will be the ones that are in the refrigerator

28:43

or with , like , the fruits

28:45

and veggies section , so actually a

28:47

real apple and real chopped veggies

28:49

and things like that , and then in the refrigerator

28:52

section , because that means it doesn't have preservatives

28:54

and chemicals , most likely . So , for

28:56

example , if you're getting salsa , the salsa

28:58

in the fridge section is probably more fresh and

29:00

better quality than the salsa at

29:02

the grocery store , and then the salsa expires in three years

29:05

from now . Right , because that makes sense , because it's like

29:07

food , but it lasts for three hours

29:09

. It doesn't make your three , three years . So so

29:11

that's a baseline . So if you flip

29:13

it over and you can't understand these ingredients

29:15

, it's probably not the best option for your body

29:18

if you're on a health journey and you can't

29:20

put in your body . So look at the ingredient

29:22

makeup Also , like the length

29:24

will make a difference . For example , I mentioned

29:26

made good granola bars . Their

29:29

ingredient length , their list

29:31

length , is way , way smaller than the other

29:33

options of granola bars or breakfast

29:35

bars , and so that indicates that it has less

29:37

ingredients , better quality ingredients and

29:39

real things for your body .

29:41

Yeah , I know there's an app I use occasionally

29:43

called food jacate . Are there any other apps that are

29:45

like helpful , that you would recommend people

29:47

, whether it's tracking and looking for substitutions

29:50

, seeing what's healthy and things , and to even bring

29:52

in you know another part of your book , the environmental

29:55

things ? There's some environmental

29:57

products we have in our house that could be damaging us

29:59

. Yeah , I'll just go off on that .

30:01

Yeah . So a newer app

30:03

that I've heard of recently is Yucca

30:06

, to say , like what the ingredients are about

30:08

. Ewg is kind of what I was initially

30:11

into . So EWG it

30:13

rates the items , say it's a shampoo

30:16

and it tells you how toxic it is

30:18

. So I'm going to focus on the lower levels

30:20

of the EWG . There are items for

30:22

your household that are EWG certified

30:25

, mean they're like the cleanest of clean , and then

30:27

I personally would try to get everything

30:29

as a level two or lower . Again

30:32

, it depends how serious you are about this . When I

30:34

was first healing my body , let me

30:36

tell you I would do anything to heal

30:39

, I was so done . So I

30:41

only use EWG certified

30:43

stuff for a very long time . I'm

30:45

going to do a little bit more flexible here and there and

30:47

I'll do an EWG two item . You know

30:50

, just like a little less . A little . Not

30:52

the best option , but definitely

30:54

a much better option in certain situations

30:56

.

30:58

I kind of dived into this already , but this is , this

31:00

is crazy , you know , for people who may not

31:02

be aware of these things . So you know , I think

31:05

everyone in general is aware of . Like , hey

31:07

, I could eat healthier , choose healthier

31:09

foods . But you know something , you know when

31:11

I first started learning like , hey , the items in my household

31:13

household can be impacting my

31:15

health , such as you know , I used to burn

31:17

Yankee candles all the time . I don't know if Yankee candles

31:19

themselves are bad , but cologne

31:22

, like , can you just talk about regular

31:24

household items that could impact health , because I

31:26

think it's mind blowing for a lot of people . They never think about that

31:28

.

31:28

Oh my gosh , it's completely mind blowing . And

31:31

it's mind blowing to me

31:33

now that , because I've been in this world for

31:35

so long , it feels like everybody should know this

31:37

now . But I still have people who

31:39

have no idea that the lotion that

31:42

they're putting on their body every single day is completely

31:44

toxic , or the makeup that they're using

31:46

, or that candle that they're you know they

31:48

have , or the plug in their wall that is putting

31:50

fragrance and toxins in their air every day

31:53

. Yes , so it's so bad . This

31:56

is all about part two in the book of environment

31:58

detoxification , and it's one thing that

32:00

definitely helped me in a huge way when

32:03

and actually it's one of my favorite parts to

32:05

, because it doesn't really require much discipline

32:07

to throw a Yankee candle and to replace

32:09

it with a more toxic version

32:12

. You write that that doesn't take life

32:14

A lot of revamping

32:16

in your life . It's an easier swap . Same

32:18

with household cleaners . Instead of using the

32:20

household cleaner you usually use , swap it

32:22

with a non toxic version . It's an easy win

32:25

. It's an easy win . So what you can

32:27

do is you can look in your house and

32:29

make a list of all the things that you use on a daily

32:31

basis for your household cleaning

32:34

items , things that are going into

32:36

your air , like fragrances , the water

32:38

that you're using today

32:41

, things that you're putting on your body it's

32:43

not just what you're putting in your body and eating , it's

32:45

what you're putting on as well Make a

32:47

list and then again , just like the pantry

32:49

, swap those things out with

32:51

an easy and easy swap .

32:54

I'm just curious like how , how big are the consequences

32:56

to some of these things ? You know , like

32:59

a long time when we bought our first house , like

33:01

I didn't know what radon was . I didn't know it was a big deal

33:03

. I didn't know radon was the second leading cause of cancer

33:05

and lung cancer . And so when I started

33:07

learning these things like hey , if we have high radon

33:09

levels in our basement , like we need a radon medic mitigation

33:12

system you know to clear that out . Like

33:14

a lot of the things we're putting in

33:16

our body have the ability to cause

33:18

cancer and have consequences like that . How

33:21

serious is this ?

33:22

Yeah , I love that you're so into this because it's extremely

33:25

serious . I mean , people die

33:27

from radon poisoning if they're , if they're

33:29

, if they don't know about it and it's in their home

33:31

or what in the ground that their home was built on or whatever

33:34

it is , and it's extremely important

33:36

. And it's proven that certain

33:38

chemicals have led to cancers

33:41

and those chemicals are now banned

33:43

from our food and from our items . But

33:45

there are still things on the market that are newer

33:47

, that know they're not banned yet and , yes

33:49

, they're approved . But that has happened

33:51

in the past and now those items are proven to cause

33:54

cancers or to have health complications

33:56

and you know , infertility

33:58

, things like that , and so that happened

34:00

once before and it would be silly for

34:02

us to think that it might not happen again with some

34:04

of these newer ingredients and newer things that

34:06

are artificially made . So you

34:08

can always trust a natural

34:10

product that is made with real foods

34:13

, real ingredients , but I would

34:15

not always trust the chemicals , especially

34:17

the newer ones , because you just don't know

34:19

what's going to come out in 40 years from now

34:21

, because we definitely have proven that in

34:24

some situations , entire

34:26

product lines have been recalled

34:28

and taken off the market because , of that .

34:30

Well , thank you so much for writing this book . I'm

34:33

definitely going to be reading it and hopefully

34:35

people were inspired by today there's

34:37

. I could dive into all these subjects and mindset

34:40

. Is there anything else related to the book that you would

34:42

just leave listeners to ?

34:44

Well , the biggest thing to know is obviously

34:46

, we could both chat about this for days

34:48

on end , but that's really what the

34:50

book is . It's a one stop shop

34:52

for all of your wellness needs . It

34:54

is not just about what you should eat

34:56

, I mean , it's really about mindset

34:58

around eating , anti inflammatory

35:00

eating , healthy swaps and environment

35:03

detoxing , lifestyle , functional

35:05

medicine . It's a one stop shop

35:07

to your healthiest self and I'm just

35:09

so excited for y'all to get it .

35:11

Yeah Well , thank you so much for your journey

35:13

. Thank you for writing this book to help so many people . I

35:16

know you've helped hundreds and thousands of people already

35:18

, so again will include links to everything in the show

35:20

notes . We have a few minutes left

35:22

. I would love to . We won't get through all the lightning round

35:24

questions , but I would love to just ask you a few , just get to

35:26

know you a little bit better . The first one is what

35:28

is the best advice you've ever received and who gave it to you

35:30

?

35:31

My friend , JJ Virgin , who is also in the wellness space

35:33

, gave me this advice once I was having a tough

35:36

run in my journey of entrepreneurship

35:38

and I texted her and asked for some

35:40

advice and she told me CEOs , this

35:43

is tough love . And she told me CEOs

35:45

don't curl up and cry when things get tough , they

35:47

keep on moving . And I was like I

35:49

needed to hear that I'm not gonna curl

35:51

up and cry , I'm gonna keep on moving . And I really

35:53

think about that often and I'm like you know what CEOs

35:55

don't curl up and cry , like let's keep on going . And

35:58

that helped me a lot .

35:59

Love it . If you could put a quote on a billboard for everyone to

36:01

read , what would it say ? You , got this let's

36:05

go . When

36:07

you get to spend time with a JJ , virgin or other

36:09

leaders that you admire , do you have a go-to question

36:11

or two that you always ask ?

36:13

Well , whenever I'm around people who are doing bigger things

36:16

than me and have more experience

36:18

than me , I'm really kind of asking what

36:20

some main differences

36:23

in their business growth was . But specifically

36:25

for me , in my interest right now , it's team

36:27

growth . That's one area that I'm always

36:29

learning more about and I'm curious about how are you managing

36:32

your team ? Who are you hiring ? You

36:34

know all the different things , for team and leadership

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is really my biggest interest right now .

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Yeah , and we didn't even get to touch on any of your

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business acumen and everything you do and coaching people

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there . But just to summarize you basically

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yeah , well , it's a

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whole other .

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we can come on up for part two . But

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yes , I own another company in the business space , so I'm

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myself an entrepreneur and we teach others

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to build and launch their own companies on the wellness

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space . So in that I obviously have

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team members and I hang out with a lot of entrepreneurs

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in all different industries , and so I'm always asking them

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about their team growth .

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What's something you've done in your life that you think everyone should

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experience before they die ?

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Oh gosh , oh

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my gosh , I would say

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. I guess travel . I've been really grateful

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to be able to travel abroad

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to many different places , even as a child . My dad

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loves traveling and so I was

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fortunate to get to go to really cool places

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like Ireland and Italy and all these really

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awesome places with my siblings growing up . So if

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you never traveled anywhere , I would say that put

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that on the bucket list .

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All right , and if you could have coffee with yourself at any age

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and you would have actually listened to yourself , what age would it be

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and what would you tell that version of Maggie ?

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Oh my gosh , eighth

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, grade , eighth grade going into high school . I

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would tell that version of Maggie to care

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less , focus

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on yourself , build your own internal

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confidence and be you . And

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because I feel as if those

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years going into high school

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and then college , it's easy to be formed

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by the people you're surrounding yourself with and

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we talk a lot about

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. When you're older you can kind

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of fine tune your circles , but when you're in high

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school , going to school with kids the same , like

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every single day in college , it's a little harder . So you

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really have to find that internal motivation to be yourself , to

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be confident , and that's what I would tell myself

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more confidence and to be me .

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Anything else you wanna leave leaders with today .

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Oh , I'm just really excited for all of you guys . I hope this

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inspires everybody to live healthier , happier lives

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, because it's gonna help impact every aspect

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of your life .

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Maggie , thank you for your book , thank you for your time and we'll

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do the skin sometimes .

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All right , talk to you guys soon .

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Well , hey , leader , thank you so much for listening to my conversation

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with Maggie . I hope that you enjoyed it as much as I did

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. You can find ways to connect with her and links

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to everything that we discussed in the notes at L3leadership

38:47

. org/ 406

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. And as always , leader , I like to end every episode

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with a quote , and I will quote Brian Tracy , who said this

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. He said "'Leaders think and talk

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about the solutions . Followers

38:58

think and talk about the problems . Which one are

39:00

you and where do you find yourself most often" . Well

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, leader , I hope you enjoyed this episode . I hope it encouraged . You

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Know that my wife Laura and I love you . We

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believe in you and I say it every episode but don't quit

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, keep leading . The world desperately

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needs your leadership . We'll talk

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to you next episode .