0:00

The

0:02

last word with month Cooper. Today

0:05

FM, it all happens

0:07

here.

0:09

Okay. The week trending, new time, Fred.

0:11

And today, we're joined for the first time by Marie

0:13

Clairey, who, of course, is news reporter

0:16

here. With Borrower Media, including CFM,

0:18

and Michael Clifford special correspondent with the

0:20

Irish examiner. And I know there are some of you who

0:22

are going to be giving out about talking

0:25

about a member of the British royal family

0:27

during the week, trendy. But it's a major international

0:29

story which is dominating the

0:31

news agenda. So let's talk about prince

0:33

Harry's book, even in advance of

0:35

getting a chance to read it next week.

0:38

Very clearly, what are the main things

0:40

we know from what that might be of interest. Well,

0:42

a lot has come out so far. I mean,

0:44

where to begin. Firstly, he

0:46

actually revealed how many people

0:48

he killed in his emissions

0:50

in Afghanistan. Ad Admissions are

0:52

actually almost boasted about. It was weird

0:55

he said he doesn't regress I believe

0:57

I'm happy about it either. It was a really

0:59

unusual admission, but

1:01

there's some other juicier bits as well for any

1:03

gossip pounds. You know, he talked about the time

1:05

he lost his virginity to an

1:07

older woman. And he said How much

1:09

older do we know? We don't know. All we know is that

1:11

the woman likes horses. And then

1:13

the Uber mill went into overdrive and

1:16

Liz Hurley came out and said, no,

1:18

it's not me. Because so many people were asking,

1:20

Liz you the person who's left with Prince Harry

1:22

as a teenager? She actually answered the question. She did

1:24

to the times you gave. Or I would say, God, she did

1:26

that because I hate if you were just screaming. I

1:30

promise. She said this morning,

1:32

it's not me. All the things, you

1:34

know, his his draw consumption, he

1:36

talked about doing cocaine, smoking weed, and

1:38

even taking Cadnex. He even

1:40

shared some bizarre stories he had while he was

1:43

on those drugs. Where he got to

1:45

see uniform of a party dog? That

1:47

was an idea of his brother and his wife

1:49

apparently. So he's planning it on them to eat

1:51

her.

1:51

What else is there, Michael, in this? Yeah.

1:53

I just I just talked there about for he

1:56

suggested his father, now King

1:58

Charles, that after he was born,

2:01

Charles apparently said to his wife, princess Diana,

2:03

Wonderful. Now you've given me an air and

2:05

a spare. Of course, the the spare

2:07

spare being the name of the book that's also being the

2:10

the term that's used for the second in line

2:12

for the throne above following a sibling

2:14

or

2:14

whatever. I mean, just --

2:16

That's good to hear in our sense. -- we might use

2:18

the term spare. We're as something for something

2:20

else. We're just I can't even appendage. I

2:22

don't know what you mean. But the the

2:24

the one serious thing, that that business that

2:26

Martin said about the the number of people

2:28

who killed in Afghanistan. I mean, I just think

2:30

that's palling thing. How

2:32

this guy was advised in any

2:35

capacity to put something like that in

2:37

a

2:37

book? You almost treat it like it was a video game.

2:39

Yeah. I mean, and I think he gives

2:41

the number and all and the whole thing.

2:43

I mean, that's just really in terms

2:45

of taste, in terms of anything, notwithstanding

2:47

whom they were fighting, whatever. Like, but it's

2:50

just I think that's a parley. Apart

2:52

from that, the thing is the most

2:54

ridiculous thing you can imagine. I

2:56

mean, Who is it? Like, the guy okay. He

2:58

needs to wear in the cross.

2:59

He's not nineteen million. Create a parody for this.

3:01

Yeah. Start a car washer. Do something. Do you

3:03

know what I mean? Just quote, near enough you, Bob,

3:05

but this certain thing is on and and

3:07

then the best thing of

3:08

all. Oh,

3:08

you were pretty sure in a snow maker.

3:13

The institution of the rise London ain't

3:15

glued to us, glued to with Matt, but this

3:17

line is the best one of all. I want my

3:19

father and my brother back Just gone

3:21

wrong. I'm afraid that's what you're looking

3:23

for like, you know. And I have to say, I

3:25

had sympathy for the guy who went the likes of

3:27

Piers

3:27

Morgan and all these people who needed the interview. I

3:29

thought, look, give the fella break. I mean -- Yeah.

3:32

-- think that there is a certain class

3:34

and racist element of attacking

3:36

Meghan Markle.

3:38

There may well be. The only point I'm

3:40

making is the detail of what he's talking

3:42

about, his own private life, how it impacts

3:44

from his family. Disposisable fighting

3:46

with William. This guy, I'm one handy somebody

3:48

out in Afghanistan and he's at the end

3:50

of a gun. Next thing, William knocks

3:52

him over and he bangs his head off the dart

3:55

ball. Oh my

3:56

god. It's really shocking. I

3:58

mean, this ludicrous. No. No. No. You're not dumping

4:00

the fact of adult men actually

4:03

hitting each other as a way to deal with their

4:04

problems. Does that not mandate issues

4:06

when you come off the stage? Who would be the next

4:08

king? Come off the stage. I'm not tumbled

4:10

that out. I'm tumbled the fellow who's in the Army one

4:13

minute, and the next minute his brother pushes him

4:15

over and

4:15

It's, oh my god, I have been assaulted. Do

4:18

you have any sympathy from raid?

4:20

Given that he did lose his mother of what

4:22

agency fourteen in g lost during tragic

4:24

circumstances, Simpathy, I think,

4:26

is going a little bit far. Originally,

4:29

when, you know, those art skills were

4:31

coming out and they were in fairness attacking

4:33

Meghan Markle, I would agree that there was definitely

4:35

a race element there, and there's definitely

4:37

a class element, boss. After

4:39

the Oprah interview, he still had me

4:41

with him. But now I think he's

4:43

losing the dressing room. It's a

4:45

four hundred page book and to be honest, he's

4:47

giving a story. He's no one else for it. Like, he's

4:49

giving above and beyond. What any of us

4:51

wanted to know, I think. Listen, a

4:53

spare thing is so cringey, says, one

4:55

listener. Martell for his kids when they

4:57

grow

4:57

up. Yeah.

4:58

When we'll get over with the twenty million euros at

5:01

Prasun.

5:02

Well, David, for to Mattel Di, the protection

5:04

probably, maybe he's made a target for himself

5:06

after those That's kind of sad. Total

5:08

just in terms of the family. I mean, it does

5:10

himself, his brother and his own man.

5:12

And, I mean, you know, to a false note with the

5:14

disrespect, and, like, I I watched the crown

5:16

and I I soap opera was great, but the first

5:18

four or five seasons of it. You know,

5:20

and it was great, but when you see this happening

5:22

in real housing, This is

5:24

Zambia. And the other thing is how

5:27

do the British people maintain their

5:29

relationship with the royal family

5:31

the way they have over

5:32

centuries? You'd have to wonder because It's gone

5:34

from soap opera into the Simpsons

5:36

Club, but

5:37

there was deep up certain Queen Elizabethite. I

5:39

hear, understandably, brunch saying, this is

5:41

the next this is for the next

5:42

What does it understand to me is how obsessed

5:45

many of them got? It's

5:47

their thing by all account. It look

5:49

mad with things or says, gaining

5:51

football, this and that, whatever. It's their

5:53

thing, and therefore, they got upset by the, you

5:55

know, I'll It's the popularity I think,

5:57

though, of William and Cage thus Okay.

5:59

People might not like Charles. I think people definitely

6:02

have their issues with Harry. But I

6:04

believe the British public, in general,

6:06

really like William and Kate. And they will hold

6:08

on for William and Kate to get the throne. So,

6:10

like, I always find it so surprising how supportive

6:12

they are of the monarchy when really they're

6:14

paying for his soap opera at this point.

6:16

Okay. Let's move on. We will be back to that

6:18

book. We actually will be

6:20

reading it on Monday night card, help us, and we'll

6:22

be covering cover it on Tuesday's program.

6:25

But let's talk about the way our TVs

6:27

get treated. Just for those who are not

6:29

aware of this story, remind us of what happened

6:31

to Keur on canon and Ann Robert

6:33

at a planning meeting effectively

6:36

in Golar. Yeah. So Kieran Cannon

6:38

and junior minister Anne Roberts were attending

6:40

a a public meeting in Gorse.

6:43

While there were artists, you know, the mic was being

6:45

passed away around in these situations as that

6:47

happens, I believe it was the third speaker

6:49

got up to make his point and

6:52

started lombasting the government and

6:54

wasn't happy about this decision. Although it was

6:56

an independent planning decision rather than a

6:58

government decision. Exactly. So Kieran Khan

7:00

actually fought back and said, no, this is on board

7:02

plan. All his decision It's not the government's.

7:05

There was an exchange anyway. Long

7:07

story short, the man actually pulled out a

7:09

ziplock bag of dry cow manure.

7:11

And threw it at Kieran. Mist. Mist.

7:15

But he did hit and Robert in the

7:17

torso, she says. I just said A

7:20

second one exactly. So then he left the room.

7:22

The funny thing is to me though is that the

7:24

meeting actually continued and the

7:26

man entered the room again on notice.

7:28

So I was speaking to the organizers and I asked, like,

7:30

how did this actually fly? And

7:34

Kieran O'Donnell said to me that Well,

7:36

really, it was a public meeting. The motto of the

7:38

group is respect all opinions, and they didn't

7:40

notice a man return. And Robert

7:42

then told Gohrey Bay of End that, you know, she

7:44

was actually afraid when she was in the

7:46

room because the man was only too mean she's behind

7:48

him. Now the Garrity have launched investigation into

7:50

it, but it was a pretty shocking thing

7:52

to happen. You making this make clear? Because I know

7:54

there are some people who are texting a justice

7:56

and all politicians should get over

7:58

themselves. Should they really? I mean,

8:00

do we not supposed to have some sort of

8:02

standards where people who stand for public

8:04

office who get properly elected

8:06

are deserving of a degree

8:08

of respect so that they will not be physically

8:10

assaulted.

8:11

Absolutely. And I mean, this is this is a thing that has

8:13

developed over the last ten years, I'd suggest,

8:15

in the wake initially of the economic

8:18

collapse, when there was huge anger,

8:20

at what had happened in the country. Now, that's still

8:22

no excuse, but on one level, you can

8:24

understand how things perhaps in instances

8:27

got somewhat out of hand. You add

8:29

to that, the whole scene

8:31

on social media and the way the

8:33

things are pumped up there, your echo chambers,

8:35

your retailing anger effectively.

8:37

And you at at this. Remember, this

8:39

guy had two bags of his stuff. He obviously

8:42

came here with a plan and he was going to

8:44

do this. And then have more serious

8:46

stuff even in the similar vein though.

8:48

Martin Kenny, who's from over the west as

8:50

well, his car got burnt out. I think he said

8:52

there before Christmas is these four kids are

8:54

gonna have to

8:54

move. You have to

8:55

Lars Kennedy, champagne TD has been

8:58

treated abysmally by the people who have

9:00

targeted his house. Absolutely. Come to

9:02

completely. And and it's happened in more than one totally

9:04

wrong. On more than one occasion completely.

9:06

You have Leo Radkur's

9:08

home, was picketted by a a

9:10

similar type of people, I think, as soon as the target.

9:12

Martin Kenny, not obviously in the same

9:14

vein to where the target is mister

9:15

Kenny. And I think

9:18

Simon Harrissar, Steven Donley or someone else's

9:20

Steven Donley had

9:20

to put up a big one. Yeah. That's that's

9:22

funny. This is really getting out

9:24

of hand. you know, we've seen what's happened in

9:26

other

9:26

countries. We saw in the

9:28

US. We saw people getting we saw Joe Cox

9:30

murdered and and Before the Brexit Exactly.

9:33

And and, you know, it's it's something that needs

9:35

to be rendered. And I was a small

9:38

piece put off. There was one

9:40

or two people in public life,

9:42

that that's what that kind of attitude you were talking

9:44

about there in terms of

9:45

Azure. What's the big deal? I was just

9:47

thought that's that that you don't need to hear

9:49

that. That's that's not good. Michael

9:51

Clifford, very clearly, he stayed with us, and we live more in

9:53

the week trending. We focus on Andrew Tait

9:55

and Dana White and other things in the week

9:57

trending after this. The last

10:01

word with Must Cooper. Today

10:03

FM, it all happens

10:05

here. Okay.

10:08

So it's Michael Clifford, Emery

10:10

Cleary, who are with us this week to

10:12

discuss the weak trending. And

10:15

There was one story that also started last

10:17

week, Marade, the row between

10:20

Andrew Tate, the mixed martial artist,

10:23

and social media guru as well as

10:25

you could call him. And

10:27

Greta Thunberg, and he got completely

10:29

burned by Greta Thunberg who dealt with

10:31

him brilliantly. But tell us about what has

10:33

emerged about this pretty

10:35

obnoxious individual sense. Yeah.

10:37

So, Andrutte is

10:39

being held by Romanian authorities and

10:41

he's been held for up to thirty days in connection

10:44

with human trafficking offenses.

10:46

So it's him, his brother, and two

10:48

other individuals. It's pretty

10:50

dark stuff. And to be honest, he's

10:53

misogynistic. There is hours of video

10:55

footage on different quote ever Even if he's

10:57

not guilty of human trafficking and

10:59

the investigations underway, it's quite

11:01

clear from his actions and behavior

11:03

that he's an appalling misogynist Absolutely.

11:05

I mean, the people who aren't

11:07

familiar with them, you know, he was

11:09

originally a mixed martial artist or

11:11

a kickboxing, rather. And he got a

11:13

stars on big brother, and then eventually

11:15

he builds this massive following.

11:17

Promoting all sorts of strange ideas, you

11:19

know, he was saying that women are the property

11:21

of their husbands that they belong in the

11:23

kitchen. And different things like that.

11:25

But, I mean, he was really popular. He was

11:27

on Instagram. He had four point six

11:29

million followers. Twitter had one

11:31

point five million. Now he's been banned

11:33

from Instagram and Facebook and YouTube,

11:36

but Elon Musk around Twitter

11:38

have advised him back. Really? Yeah.

11:40

He's on Twitter again at one point five

11:42

million. What'd

11:43

you make of this guy, Michael? And also the

11:45

fact that he has so many people who

11:47

celebrate him and who follow him and

11:49

he gets so many likes and clicks and

11:51

the rest of us. I I have to confess to my

11:53

journalistic deficit here,

11:55

Matt, prior to Greta Thunberg's absolutely

11:58

unrivaled tweet. Which I think was tweeted

12:00

a year. Last year, if you asked me, I

12:02

hadn't heard of this guy. But

12:04

I was I was at a

12:06

loop. what I don't but he's of a type

12:08

though, isn't he like, you know what I mean, he is

12:10

of that type. And, unfortunately, he's

12:12

of a type that gets an awful lot of attention

12:14

and gets a lot of

12:16

support. And gets a lot of support. And unfortunately, it

12:18

would seem it gets a lot of support in very young

12:20

males, in particular, right

12:22

around the world. one not not in the

12:24

world. Also because necessarily because he's misogynistic.

12:27

But they're drawn into his persona.

12:29

He's he's the kickboxing, the whole thing.

12:31

You know, he's There

12:32

were also a lot of middle aged people who

12:34

should have known better, who took his side against

12:36

Greta Thunberg simply because their

12:38

climate change to

12:39

nurse. Oh, yeah. Would I mean, if that's if that are all

12:41

over the place, definitely like, you know, but

12:43

he the thing about guys like this, if you

12:45

ask

12:45

me, they'll get their commitments at some stage.

12:47

And it's safe. And maybe he's getting it no. That's

12:50

exactly the thing, you know. What about Dana

12:52

White? You must know Dana White. I

12:53

do. Yeah. Sure. You're not that No.

12:55

No. That's special correspondent of the

12:58

Irish traveler. I know I know that that that no.

13:00

I mean, this again, but there's a similar theme

13:02

here. He was caught on camera striking,

13:05

sergeant his wife. Now she was she

13:07

struck him as well. But, I

13:09

mean, because he is is the

13:11

or the president of the UFC. And

13:13

the whole thing, you're back into this whole match

13:15

or culture. That whole thing

13:17

and he's apologizing profusely.

13:20

Simply if you ask me because he realized he's in a

13:22

nearer, that if he doesn't, that'd be major

13:24

repercussions. But I mean, again,

13:27

I'm not making comparisons with him in tape, but you

13:29

know what? There's a particular type that's out

13:30

there, and and they're outsized as far as

13:33

anything. Yeah. But it seems great. He's not gonna have

13:35

the criticism that for

13:37

example, Will Smith Scott for delivering

13:39

a slap against Chris Rock at the Oscars

13:41

last year. Yeah. It's a forty one. I have

13:43

to agree with you on that. I don't

13:45

really know why, you know, his apology

13:47

he gave to the show based ITMZ was

13:49

that there was a lot of alcohol involved. You

13:51

know, there's no excuse, but I've known

13:53

my wife since we were twelve, we're married nearly

13:55

thirty years. The sister says she struck him

13:57

first. Don't forget that. But does that

13:59

really matter if because because one

14:01

person strikes you, does that entitle you to strike

14:03

by? Exactly. It's funny that

14:05

that that there's so little heat being

14:07

being given to him. I don't understand why

14:09

and why that

14:09

is, to be honest. I I I'd suggest it

14:12

simply because he's not

14:14

center stage in terms of the whole celebrity

14:16

God bless you. I would I would think beyond that. I

14:18

mean, there the the I don't see too many

14:21

redeeming features in the guide to be honest with you. Let

14:22

let's move on. Do you remember Micron, the green

14:25

party talked reintroducing Wolves to

14:27

our end. I wonder how the EU

14:29

Commission president, Ursula

14:31

Vander Lane, would think of that

14:33

idea. Yeah. Orsula Vander

14:35

Lane,

14:35

apparently, in her

14:37

near home in Germany, her

14:40

pony, she and she's apparently been in the

14:42

horses since she was a kid, her son is

14:44

attacked by a wolf and killed and

14:46

killed. And thereafter,

14:50

the Wolf's number was up effectively.

14:52

There was –

14:55

there's a protective notice on Wolfs, but there's a

14:57

dispensation in some instances. Under was in

14:59

relation to this particular world. Now,

15:01

Ursula Vanderlein said, is it nothing to

15:03

do with her? But one way or the other,

15:06

wolf was given to the target and he

15:08

was done and that was confirmed in

15:10

December. She's saying it absolutely nothing

15:12

to do with her her spokesperson said

15:14

the attack on mister Vanderland's pawn pawnee

15:16

was not the reason that the wolf was

15:18

killed,

15:18

but obviously, one could

15:21

imagine she hardly shed any tears through the

15:23

old wolf. Okay. Let's move on to other

15:25

things, Braid. Interested

15:27

to see Canada bounding foreign

15:29

investors buying property. Which is very

15:31

interesting given the controversies we have in this

15:33

country about international investors buying

15:35

up our apartment blocks. Yeah. It's an

15:38

interesting move. So as of first

15:40

January, a new law was introduced in Canada,

15:42

whereby foreigners cannot buy

15:44

property there as investments. And,

15:46

you know, IT'S A FONY ONE. APPARENTLY IT'S

15:48

BEEN A LONG TALKED TO AT ISSUE IN CANADA,

15:50

BOS. ONLY four point eight

15:52

percent OF PROPERIES IN VANCOUVER ARE OWNED

15:54

BY NON CANADIANS. And it's even less so in

15:56

Toronto. So it's an issue they talk a

15:58

lot by all accounts in Canada,

16:00

whether or not it's actually that big problem. I don't

16:02

know. New Zealand have done similar in the

16:04

past as well. There's arguments

16:06

foreign against it, and there is there

16:09

are exceptions made for people who are worked

16:11

in calendar long enough and so forth like

16:13

that. Is it something that would is needed in Ireland

16:15

perhaps? Yeah, probably is needed.

16:17

Yeah. I think what people in the

16:19

development industry will see and perhaps

16:21

it has to be tested, I don't know, but they will say

16:23

that without the international funds,

16:26

a lot of the apartments currently

16:28

a lot of the apartments, sorry, a caveat.

16:30

That get planning permission, they're not necessarily being even

16:32

built at the moment. But I suppose in fairness to

16:34

ones that are financed by funds

16:36

are that it wouldn't

16:38

be possible without them. No. Whether or not

16:41

that stands up to scrutiny. I don't

16:43

know. No. What about

16:45

the French? Having a slump in

16:47

their wine industry because young people

16:49

apparently are not drinking enough

16:51

wine and it's been named an older drink because

16:53

not educating the marades. Yes.

16:55

This is an interesting one. So, yeah, back

16:57

in the day, apparently, in the nineteen

16:59

sixties. French people were guzzling

17:01

wine by the bottle, but they haven't passed on

17:03

their tradition to their children. In

17:05

fact, many French people are actually

17:08

looking to drink beer over wine

17:10

and have reduced their consumption massively. Now they

17:12

say this is actually going to have an impact on

17:14

on the industry itself, there could be major

17:16

redundancies in the next five years.

17:18

I'm all over this, so maybe wine is

17:20

falling a little bit out of fashion in

17:23

And it could actually have some serious impact on people's

17:25

jobs. What'd you make of that? Young people

17:27

in France, not

17:27

drinking wine, but is wine maybe

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something that you can't relate for in life?

17:32

That could be the thing as was that they have their

17:34

own culture there. I wonder

17:36

do young people today appreciate

17:39

a point again is the way an older generation would have I

17:41

don't know. But we I thought to point again

17:43

this is another grower because you see, I'm twenty

17:45

five and I would say

17:47

I'm only getting into wine, rightly

17:49

or wrongly. But I would say you only enjoy wine

17:51

in the last few years. Yeah. When

17:53

you're younger, it is not more about the spirits and

17:55

stuff like that. And I'd say It's not so experts were

17:57

for the older generation with spirits like whiskey, of course, the older generation.

18:00

Oh, for Jane and vodka. Yeah. So it's

18:02

funny. It's all to do with trends. I do believe when you get

18:04

older and maybe you appreciate food a little

18:06

bit more. And you appreciate your wine. It might be

18:08

less a little bit about the social aspect

18:10

of alcohol and actually just enjoying it for what

18:12

it is. Maybe we didn't get into

18:13

wine. A little bit older. In in in in terms

18:15

France, you'd wonder about the internationalization, the

18:18

culture. Have they lost something in that respect?

18:20

And are the younger people

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not enthralled to the same things

18:24

that are culturally in national health.

18:26

Have to worry in France about the changing

18:28

climate and how that's impacting their

18:30

ability to grow in

18:31

Champagne. No. There are ski slopes as

18:34

well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's another

18:36

issue this week actually. In last, we went off to

18:38

Bulgaria to ski this week, and they

18:40

were getting dispatients before they left that

18:42

there was no snow there. So, I

18:44

mean, again, we're back. You mentioned climate

18:46

change matters, and that's their Another

18:48

one of these events that would seem that we've

18:50

experienced in the last two years in particular around the

18:51

world, it keeps happening and

18:54

have to say, we keep doing very little about it. That's a short

18:56

term trend. Maybe not. John Gibbons keeps telling

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us it's a long term issue,

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