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Believe it or not, with all

1:10

that is at stake in Georgia

1:12

with the allegations of a president.

1:15

Who tried to steal and election? This.

1:18

Messy Business. This legal drama about

1:20

this messy business is now threatening.

1:23

The. Future of District Attorney well as his

1:25

role at the helm of this important

1:27

case. A Let's bring in my colleague

1:30

and friend Cnn Anchor senior Legal Analyst

1:32

Lara Codes. Law. Or the

1:34

so. Bottom line: Do you think the

1:36

witness Mr. Bradley. Do. You think

1:38

his testimony has undermined funny was

1:41

his credibility? I think it has

1:43

undermine the credibility of the arguments made by

1:45

both Nathan well as Nathan Weight is is

1:47

me and also funny was for these reasons.

1:49

First well here's why we're here. This person

1:51

you may recall was already called to testify

1:53

about a week and a half ago. The

1:55

reason he left his because of the attorney

1:58

client privilege. I you know if you. Actually

2:00

communicate with your attorney and further is

2:02

getting legal advice. In his privilege that

2:04

privilege belongs to the client not the

2:07

attorney. The Giants have what was called

2:09

and in camera discussion at a fancy

2:11

way of thank you and I are

2:13

going to talk one on one with

2:15

no one present. I'm going to determine

2:17

whether or not your conversations that you

2:19

had to fall within that privilege. The

2:21

judge made a ruling they said lot

2:24

as it relates to communications about whether

2:26

there was a relationship between funny well

2:28

as an eighth in ways. That a

2:30

privilege you can testify to it he

2:32

doesn't wanna be here for that reason

2:34

for now he's seeing ask questions about

2:37

that and now he's got a kind

2:39

of coming in amnesia he doesn't recall

2:41

a lot of different details. He comes

2:43

across as somebody who was gossiping with

2:45

be attorney that bringing this is bob

2:47

occasions proceedings that he was aware that

2:49

the motion with about gathering information and

2:51

nonetheless he disclosed that he says that

2:53

they were engaged in in voice of

2:56

earlier than they said but now today

2:58

said it was all speculation, all speculation.

3:00

He had no personal knowledge and he

3:02

kept using a phase. Anything I learn

3:04

was from my client which became synonymous

3:06

with Nathan Way with the one who

3:08

told me or there was a really

3:11

important moment with say wow that is

3:13

the attorney for Donald Trump member This

3:15

is the one who is saying look

3:17

I don't with a the have to

3:19

say he asked some ways I can

3:21

you are speculating you are by an

3:23

attorney that you know was representing a

3:26

code if I'm in this case and

3:28

he returned You offer speculation why. Not

3:30

to say if you will, he did.

3:32

Now I don't know. He offered no

3:34

sound explanation as to why the judge

3:36

seems to out this entire proceedings a

3:39

little impatient compared to the first time

3:41

we saw this entire thing. Why? Because

3:43

he wants them to focus. On

3:45

the specific nature of the testimony, remember

3:48

Jake for all. Here are not because

3:50

this is the part of Real Housewives

3:52

episode or we are just nosy. It

3:55

is because they asked to disqualify Funny

3:57

Willis based on a conflict of interest.

4:00

That would make a defendant impossible to

4:02

have a fair trial. And let's listen

4:04

or they have resumed. I'm

4:07

spoons Mr. Way personally in. A

4:10

year Two years actually, when I lived. In

4:15

as well as. I

4:17

never own. Minor

4:21

to and miss well as was.

4:24

Never home where I would pick

4:26

up phone and tell tour that

4:28

she would. Or

4:31

anything like that. So

4:34

you may I would miss Well as

4:36

you know personally ship other night I

4:38

never had a personal relationship. I've mentioned

4:41

before that I went to a dinner

4:43

that was after she. Was

4:46

elected. That

4:48

was at a steakhouse, but it was some seventy

4:51

five, two hundred people there. So.

4:53

You knew of her, you just didn't have a. A

4:57

business relationship or personalize of shipowner are we

4:59

suppose one. I

5:02

knew of her from mine. She was

5:04

in the Da's office and I criminal

5:06

cases but I did not pursue in

5:08

our know. And.

5:12

Not having known her family I'll

5:14

with are you got a contract

5:17

for her office. Objective

5:20

said he would have asked and answered throughout

5:22

the us on our server think we covered

5:24

this ground on the. Sixties

5:26

about the contracts and giveaways. Are you

5:28

going somewhere else with us? I am

5:30

judge. If you give me the lads

5:33

who are Ira okay you may proceed.

5:36

You I contract from the office not

5:38

knowing. Are having a

5:40

good relations are good working business relationship with

5:43

this Willis. As quick. As

5:46

because Nathan waste your that contracts you.

5:50

I don't know how it. Came.

5:52

About but it was presented to me

5:54

on and off as but contract for.

5:58

Presented a to have to wait. That.

6:03

Is up and he owes you money. you said at one point.

6:07

Zero You. Owe

6:10

you money at one point. I

6:13

don't recall soon as he owes me money.

6:16

He owes you money at one point. Not

6:22

that I recall Cnn, Mister Way owes me

6:24

or owed me money. I don't recall ever

6:26

seeing their. I

6:29

didn't ask whether you ever said

6:31

that. I said did he oh,

6:33

you're for these are you money

6:35

The bass know he didn't owe

6:37

me money. And

6:40

so. You

6:43

he steered his contract he you have to

6:45

your office and you are really talking to

6:47

him and asked him for two years. The

6:51

contract was in Twenty Twenty One. I didn't

6:53

lead into Twenty Twenty Two. Seasons

6:56

off with him at all time. I

7:00

left and Twenty Twenty Two. I haven't

7:02

really spoke to him since. Twenty Twenty

7:04

Two is worse. When

7:07

our laps, June owes them

7:09

of Twenty Twenty Two around

7:11

June, August dates and Twenty

7:14

Twenty Two. Other

7:18

than your own. The last question Other than

7:21

your attorney. Could you speak would

7:23

say about giving testimony. In

7:25

this case, today. I

7:28

spoke to months earnest Charles Graham.

7:31

N B C show. About

7:35

nothing further on Rs and again

7:37

on systems check to make sure

7:39

to scramble ever join us by

7:41

soon. To

7:43

a. Bar

7:53

Thank you for just for the record Mister

7:55

Chrome well as and apparently watching the preceding

7:57

good way to science presence and and how

7:59

the other. This one so turning over

8:01

to Mr. Abadi. And

8:04

I have a question or israeli

8:06

to step down. Thirty six answers

8:08

your these exhibits. Ah, the answer

8:10

to that. Of

8:17

a. Smuggler. Excuses

8:20

often. Spyware

8:25

prefer. What about? Medicine

8:28

room full of some of

8:30

them were. Perfect

8:37

record. Of project.

8:41

And doing the Mr. Brown they couldn't. Have

8:44

you marched in him show them to the

8:46

state the consistency of for hims road singers

8:48

for one second sorry sir I do the

8:50

all. Sitting on.

9:01

A mall is looking at that Mr.

9:03

Bradley Enemy Defense exhibit. Twenty Three

9:05

Twenty Four Twenty Five As noted below

9:07

the desert visit my folders I was

9:10

at from the hearing that from

9:12

on smoking or hammer place for richer

9:14

thing goes to. The

9:18

me they say. So.

9:31

And Gasoline Three Twenty Four Twenty five. Hazing

9:35

else in your binder. Customers

9:37

good okay and and weekend

9:39

Any conclusions on. For

9:42

his i'm sorry manager Martin. All

9:44

right so it sounds like the wrapping

9:47

up their litter. Come back Here are

9:49

into thought the Marcos with one of

9:51

the things that's interesting about this case.

9:53

Laura Ah is that this gentleman? The

9:55

witness Mr. Bradley. Used to be.

9:57

he was though he was the divorce attorney. The

10:00

need for Mr Way that with whom funny

10:02

was had this relationship. And. I used

10:04

to be law partners. And. Then there

10:06

was apparently some sort of falling out. And.

10:09

Was it during this period when they have the

10:11

falling and out. The. Mr. Bradley.

10:14

Was. Quite the chatty cathy about the

10:16

relationship that his former client had with

10:19

funny will see. Was at that precise

10:21

questioned whether Nathan Weight and him we're

10:23

still friends at the time that he's

10:26

communicated with the attorney in this merchants

10:28

who is the one leading this motion

10:30

disqualify Signing last me off as he

10:32

had a really long pregnant pause and

10:35

then he said yes, we were friends

10:37

and you could feel the weight of

10:39

that moment. Why is he isn't a

10:41

very tough position? I only as an

10:44

attorney who has been you're having to

10:46

be compelled to really testify here today,

10:48

but also because he. Was aware that

10:51

the nature of the communications from this

10:53

Merchant was about fat Father and and

10:55

he had information that he was willing

10:57

to realize that the credibility thing comes

10:59

in here Jade because he is now

11:01

saying on the stand today that he

11:03

didn't really have any basis for the

11:05

things he was saying. He was speculating.

11:08

Puts you know he was asked by

11:10

one of the attorneys. did you lie

11:12

to Miss Merchant when you're late said

11:14

these things about their relationship whether they

11:16

were things I did Nathan Wait, have

11:18

a garage door opener defining Willis's. Private

11:20

home or office whether they had sex

11:22

in this facility or not. Whether they

11:25

were more magically involves and here he

11:27

said, i don't recall. Let's put aside

11:29

to whether he was lying. He then

11:31

said I was speculating. The lawyer said

11:33

we're both more is that the weasley

11:35

word he was, you know at the

11:37

will the argumentative there but said digital.

11:40

I guess I would speculate and can't

11:42

recall the reasons is so important. Here

11:44

is again why we're here. This is

11:46

a motion to disqualify a prosecutor and

11:48

the office in a very. Consequential case

11:50

that originally had eighteen photos and

11:52

it's one of them is a

11:54

former president united States is she

11:56

is is qualified They send some

11:58

finding that she. Finance or personally

12:01

benefited. then another committee, a prosecuting

12:03

counsel and Georgia then stepson and

12:05

decide who will replace her and

12:08

her team. There's no timeline when

12:10

you gotta do that. There is

12:12

no requirement that they follow that

12:14

grand jury indictment. They could dismiss

12:17

the case, They could expand the

12:19

case, they could to take away

12:21

some defendants. This is really consequential

12:23

and here we are talking about

12:26

decisions made. I'm talking about the

12:28

nature of relationship and. A judge

12:30

trying to decide whether it be moving

12:32

party has met their burden to disqualify

12:35

or. What is exactly.

12:37

The. Burden to disqualify are based on

12:40

because must assume but we know that

12:42

Funny Willis and It Away had a

12:44

relationship. That is true. Ah,

12:46

and we know that she was in charge of

12:49

his salary and he was paid money, right? Mm

12:51

as accurate as well. I

12:53

guess. Two. Things One is.

12:56

Of course. All of

12:58

this was just stunningly reckless. By.

13:01

The district Attorney will us. Are.

13:03

And mister weird. I mean stunningly reckless.

13:05

You're trying to prosecute a former President

13:07

of the United States. What?

13:09

Are you doing doing anything?

13:12

anything? That could undermine

13:14

that incredibly important case. The Case of

13:16

Your Life. Will. Think like with

13:18

whether it's a D, why not paying

13:21

your taxes having him illicit relationship with,

13:23

whatever it is. So let's put that

13:25

aside for one second. Okay, because obviously.

13:28

I. Got a grant and emotion a

13:30

reckless but what. What?

13:32

Specifically about this behavior undermines the

13:34

case that she is build. That's

13:37

the rub. There. Is

13:39

nothing that we have heard so

13:42

far that has talked about any

13:44

aspect of the underlying allegations contained

13:46

in the indictment. This case is

13:49

about a conflict of interest based

13:51

on that admitted relationship. But

13:54

the requirement and the burden of proof

13:56

is that that relationship that conflict of

13:58

interest provide a benefit. a personal benefit

14:01

likely financial. Tiffani was such that it

14:03

would make it impossible for Donald Trump

14:05

or any of those remaining codefendants to

14:07

have a fair trial. and other words,

14:10

something about the needs Rebel put the

14:12

some on the scale to such a

14:14

degree that your intention in your incentive

14:16

is a keep the case sewing or

14:19

to try the case to continue to

14:21

derive that benefit now with my towards

14:23

justice or to your burden of proof.

14:26

That's the rub here. Now they have

14:28

to actually prove that neither prosecution. What

14:30

you're seeing on that an interesting idea. They

14:32

have normally the burden of proof in the

14:34

criminal case. they are habit in this and

14:37

since it is the party that trying to

14:39

disqualified the has to prove that complex so

14:41

far more. What we have. We. That

14:43

he admitted romantic affair? Yeah, you got

14:45

that you that discussions about such that

14:48

were taken and payments that were either

14:50

reimbursed or otherwise notably you have tom

14:52

parents proud the understand contradicting an earlier

14:54

saved by Nathan ways that he never

14:57

uses credit card. There was never reimbursements.

14:59

There may have been other sensitive that

15:01

not accounted for. but ultimately jag they

15:03

have to prove that. The. Money

15:05

that came in. Was. The

15:08

person all was personally benefit error or

15:10

a beneficial that was funny well as

15:12

remember you're talking about a man whose

15:14

that more than one source of into

15:16

like an important or because for you

15:18

to draw that through line between what's

15:21

funny well as and her officer providing

15:23

as a financial salary soon and eight

15:25

and way it was ultimately Spence would

15:27

assume only one source of income through

15:29

the commingling of sorts of funds which

15:31

with his private practice phrase existing and

15:34

com and salary imbalance and this and

15:36

they had not yet proven. That one

15:38

dollar. Is tied to the employment.

15:40

right? So look reboot. If.

15:42

This were funny. Willis in a relationship

15:45

with a juror? Yeah, well. as or

15:47

or well put that into your no,

15:49

no, but it a jaw eyewitness I

15:51

can understand. Shirt. Can

15:54

do that that grow mrs relationship with.

15:56

Her. Own prosecutor? Yeah, right?

15:59

Again, Incredibly reckless and

16:01

I'm not justifying it. But.

16:04

The. Idea is that somehow she

16:06

only brought this case. So.

16:08

That she could hire him and then they

16:10

could go on vacation together is that is

16:12

that the insinuation. Die as the insinuation

16:14

that really lends itself so absurdity

16:17

right here. And and by the

16:19

way, ah, this is not the

16:21

first instance you've heard of a

16:23

romantic place between attorney mean, defense

16:25

thompson prosecutors have had romantically as

16:27

on Tops As Witnesses and Beyond

16:29

judges and guess this is nothing

16:31

that is the most novel concept.

16:33

The issue here you have to

16:35

relate to do that. you know

16:37

I'm threat to the imagination to

16:39

suggest it was all this conspiracy

16:41

I know how we can see

16:43

together. Or make this case a retail

16:45

case of all these charges. At eighteen percent

16:47

and including dollar something you know it's gonna

16:49

have a for us, it's legal Tables you

16:51

seen so far. Also, you can take occasional

16:53

trip to Florida or two a day trip

16:55

to places like. Bro. But I'm I'm not like though, it

16:57

doesn't. Make sense but. Here's.

16:59

The problem optic sides have an impact

17:01

on a jury, but the judge in

17:04

this case the one west side did

17:06

you trust me that those defendants can

17:08

not have a fair trial at The

17:10

Thumb is such on the scale that

17:12

you have undermined the pursuit of justice

17:15

so far. We've got a lot of

17:17

details, a lot of questions about when

17:19

it started. But. You need that through

17:21

line for this Judge. Yeah, I mean the only

17:23

thing that I have. Had conclusively proven

17:25

to be so far is a thorough lot

17:28

of reckless lawyers in Atlanta. Including

17:30

the witness today who was just like,

17:33

what? Why is he gossiping about a

17:35

former client? I mean, is that a

17:37

room. Well. Remember by the will

17:39

accept yeah I know but I'm like is on

17:41

our grounds for his farm and so like be

17:43

telling secrets about your former client. Is that not

17:45

I mean from your answers I'm going to come

17:48

back to that are joining us on a par.

17:50

See even more What's this has the money means

17:52

for this Pretty singular legal cases in and Senior

17:54

Legal Analyst and former Assistant Us Attorney or we

17:57

honey. We're also joined by Charlie Bailey, former senior

17:59

Assistant District. The a foam tell me Charlie

18:01

as work closely with funny was his wife

18:03

is on was his medication stamps It was

18:06

inside the courtroom for today's hearing. I'm sure

18:08

he's gonna have a couple things to say

18:10

about when I just said. and we let

18:12

me start with what you heard in today's

18:14

ah testimony by Terrorists Bradley. But do you

18:16

think that finalists or is in any trouble

18:19

today based on his testimony? What I think

18:21

What we just saw his two hours of

18:23

preposterous non credible testimony from Mr. Rabbit. Mr.

18:25

Bradley is a lawyer. He's an officer of

18:27

the court is testifying about events that are

18:30

recent. An important and yet when it

18:32

came to virtually anything of any substance.

18:34

His response was i don't recall or

18:36

I was speculating. And let's understand how

18:38

this person came onto the radar to

18:40

begin with. See was asked by the

18:42

defense lawyers in writing in a text.

18:44

Did the relationship between eighth and way

18:47

nobody will start? Before the I hired

18:49

Nathan Wade and his answer in writing

18:51

was quote absolutely and then on his

18:53

own he offered up specifics about when

18:55

and how they met. He said he

18:57

met at this particular Cla Continuing Legal

18:59

Education conference and today he said well

19:01

I was speculating. That's ridiculous, Why we

19:04

you and they top out of whole

19:06

cloth some specific place where people met

19:08

and when he was asked about why

19:10

did you speculate you know what his

19:12

answer was. I don't recall. There's no

19:14

way. You can credit that witnessed the question.

19:16

Now though, and you're just getting to this

19:18

is is there a concrete enough conflict of

19:21

interest made out here? I agree with you,

19:23

I agree with more us the waters are

19:25

very buddy on that. But the problem is

19:27

that the A and Wait have now testified

19:29

under oath. That. This relationship started after Mr.

19:31

Way was hired and if that turns out

19:33

to be false then they have an even

19:35

bigger problem on their hands. Such. Early

19:37

you are inside the courtroom today. Do agree

19:40

with Alley and what stood out to you.

19:45

Know I don't agree with much

19:47

as hell he said. but you

19:49

know what we saw here today

19:52

is a witness who said they

19:54

don't recall arm when the releases

19:56

are is not a dispute That

19:58

a relationship. At some

20:01

point it it starts. he doesn't

20:03

recall when and he says it

20:05

when he was gossiping, that he

20:07

was gossiping, gossiping and speculating. And

20:09

I think you know anybody knows

20:11

he should have done that. Obviously

20:13

he shouldn't be gossiping about things

20:15

the series, but we already know

20:17

some the things he said. A

20:19

flat out false. There's illusion and.

20:22

Miss Merchants motion that they lived together

20:24

and twenty twenty right? Remember that with

20:27

that in the most and she said

20:29

that came from Mister Romney. Will we

20:31

know that nonsense and the testimony of

20:34

founding fathers? There's this further statement about

20:36

them. Taken. A daughter out to

20:38

California. The lives is that all never

20:40

lives in California. So why was he

20:42

making up things out a whole for.

20:45

I. Don't know. sometimes people lies. Maybe

20:47

he was upset about the way he

20:49

was fired from the farm. But.

20:51

None of this has anything to

20:53

do with the charge made Bomb

20:55

This merchants and mister say it

20:58

out and these other attorneys in

21:00

some nice that is the most

21:02

reckless conduct sally you are intimated

21:04

that if it can be proven.

21:07

That the relationship between District

21:09

Attorney Funny was and her

21:11

prosecutor missed Wade is that

21:14

relationship started before she hired

21:16

him. Ah, That

21:18

that would be. A real

21:20

blow for her. Why

21:23

would she lie about such a thing?

21:25

Does that relate more to. Are.

21:27

You supposed to hire somebody that you're having

21:29

relationship with or might that has to do

21:31

with. His divorce. So this

21:34

goes to the heart of the whole

21:36

dispute. Hear the narrative offered up by

21:38

Donald Trump and the code Defendants: Mister

21:40

Roman was essentially this funny Willis was

21:42

in a romantic relationship with Mister Wayne.

21:44

First, Mister Wait, a man who's never

21:47

prosecuted a felony criminal trial was then

21:49

chosen by Funny Well as according to

21:51

the defendants because of that relationship to

21:53

lead this massive case. And then as

21:55

a result of that, Mr. Waves been

21:57

paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some

22:00

of which have made their way so

22:02

funny, well as indirectly through vacations. and

22:04

that sort affects the counter narrative that

22:06

the Be A Toast to pursue is

22:08

no, no, no, he was hired for

22:10

his maris. There was no pre existing

22:12

romantic relationships, but after he was hired,

22:14

the relationship developed. These things happen. There

22:16

was never any sort of plan or

22:18

intentionality about it. So the question of

22:20

when was an important issue to begin

22:22

with. and now it's amplified many times

22:24

over because the Diy has taken a

22:26

very strong under oath position that it

22:28

did not start until after. And the

22:31

question to me Jake is who will

22:33

the judge credit? Will the judge credit

22:35

that seen that we just saw. From.

22:37

Mr. Bradley i don't recall, i don't recall

22:39

was speculations are willing credit the written a

22:41

specific texts that Mr. Bradley said before. when

22:43

asked again if there was a relationship beforehand

22:46

his response was absolutely and then again see

22:48

tales so it's hard to believe he was

22:50

lying then and then Today import when it

22:52

was all I don't recall today was the

22:54

truthful Park. Charlie, I want you

22:57

to listen to what District Attorney Funny was

22:59

testified earlier this month when she was asked

23:01

about her relationship with her prosecutor. Nathan

23:03

Way take a listen. Hundred

23:07

And then to be clear because

23:09

my credibility has been evaluate his

23:12

name. We were friends, we hung

23:14

out fires to November Twenty Twenty

23:16

One In November. Twenty Twenty One

23:18

I have. I. Do

23:21

not consider our relationship to have become

23:23

roommates. Each insult earlier. Twenty twenty two

23:25

as he ever visited you at the

23:27

place you laser had. Oh let's be

23:29

clear as you slide in, this isn't

23:31

a which one you lad and I

23:33

Do you think the limelight you know?

23:35

no no please improved as incidentally duty

23:37

as a minute into a month. Now.

23:41

Since then, surely a private investigator

23:43

working for Trump. Or says

23:45

that they've uncovered cell phone

23:48

data alleging some contradictions, including

23:50

visits from. Way the

23:52

prosecutor to the area of funny was

23:54

his condo and twenty twenty one that

23:56

has earlier than when she just by

23:58

the relationship with the began. The hours.

24:00

That would suggest that it was not just

24:02

us. How you doin' visit. A How

24:04

to respond to that. Will.

24:08

Force this person that they had analyze

24:10

the cell phone data is not an

24:12

expert. He said that in his own

24:14

affidavits not admissible in court. have handled

24:16

cell tower data as a prosecutor. Very

24:18

first thing is it's it's not like

24:20

if I handed it to you Jake

24:22

is this is crazy with a bunch

24:24

of numbers on you wouldn't know what

24:26

to do it and I wouldn't know

24:28

if you have to have an expert

24:30

even be able to tell you what

24:32

it is this guy says and his

24:34

own affidavit. He's not an exercise person.

24:36

Secondly though they already testify. Both funny

24:39

and this for ways that they

24:41

were at that condo in the

24:43

Haynesville are more than ten times

24:45

in twenty Twenty one. If

24:47

you even except. The. The

24:49

the explanation of the private

24:52

investigator that Nathan ways phone

24:54

pain down in the neighborhood

24:56

thirty five times. That's not

24:59

inconsistent. Furthermore, In

25:01

the responses, the Da's office file.

25:04

They. Were able to point out that Fani

25:06

was in a different place of of

25:08

the ten times in the specific site

25:10

specific times that the desensitize in front

25:13

of say. Or Nathan

25:15

and funny. Or they're together. so

25:17

it doesn't even stand for the

25:19

proposition that the defense's find to

25:22

offer it for. It's not contradictory.

25:24

it's corroboration of what's already been

25:26

certified, says. Laura Thanks Ellie!

25:29

Thanks Charlie! Appreciated coming up next New

25:31

York City's Mayor. Breaking with decades of

25:33

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25:36

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26:53

our national lead, New York City's

26:55

Mayor Eric Adams is breaking with

26:57

decades of precedent today. He called

26:59

for drastic changes to the city

27:02

sanctuary city policies. The shifts could

27:04

land undocumented immigrants accused of a

27:06

serious crime. Into. The hands of

27:08

Ice or Immigration and Customs Enforcement Officers.

27:11

The Mayor's The Voice comes in the

27:13

wake of several high profile crimes involving

27:15

recently arrived migrants in the City of

27:17

New York, including the recent shooting. Of.

27:20

A tourist during a rivalry inside a Times

27:22

Square clothing store. Here's. How the

27:24

Mayor is justifying his desire for a

27:26

shift. I

27:29

don't believe people who are violent

27:31

in our city. Could. Commit

27:33

repeat crimes, Sued have the privilege

27:35

of being in our city. I

27:37

wouldn't. I want to go back

27:40

to the standards of the Previews

27:42

Mayor's. Who. I

27:44

believe subscribe to my Billie

27:46

for their people who are

27:48

suspected of of committing are

27:50

serious crimes in a city

27:52

or should be held accountable.

27:56

Feel for it has been as been following the

27:58

story for us Gloria: How significant is. Policy

28:00

shift. Order to bring

28:02

significant incense in the sense that

28:05

words really matter in this debate.

28:07

Right here you have Eric Adams,

28:09

the Mayor of the largest city

28:12

in the country who is a

28:14

dealing with this migrant crisis and

28:16

as you said of following these

28:19

high profile crimes that have involved

28:21

undocumented migrants, he has a taking

28:24

the a new position suggesting that

28:26

the city need to reevaluate it's

28:28

sanctuary policy Now New York has.

28:31

Had a Sanctuary City policies

28:33

on it's books, going back

28:35

all the way to the

28:37

Nineteen eighties. Mayor Ed Koch

28:39

was mayor, but those changes

28:41

weren't enshrined into law in

28:43

Twenty Fourteen. And essentially what

28:45

they say is that the

28:47

N Y P D can

28:49

not cooperate with federal authorities

28:51

to enforce immigration law. One

28:53

thing that's important that's gotten

28:56

lost in the discussion here

28:58

is that there are exceptions

29:00

in the law. Where people

29:02

who are convicted and that

29:04

is the key word they

29:06

convicted of sir and crimes

29:08

including violent offenses are eventually

29:10

turned over to immigration enforcement.

29:12

But the Mayor appears to

29:14

be suggesting he believes the

29:16

change should happen so that

29:18

people are turned over when

29:20

they are accused of a

29:22

crime that would be a

29:24

significant change, something that supporters

29:26

of Sanctuary City our policies

29:29

say would put undocumented, an.

29:31

Immigrant communities at risk because they

29:33

are usually more vulnerable to crime

29:35

and often afraid to reach out

29:37

to law enforcement. So is significant

29:40

shift in language here, But as

29:42

you know, wards really matter in

29:44

this context. it is also comes after

29:46

a couple other incidents you of the murder. Of

29:49

laden royally that are you doing

29:51

Nursing student in the. Undocumented

29:53

immigrants Venezuela who was accused

29:55

of of killing her. Ah

29:58

supposedly was. Arrested and

30:00

charged with a serious crime in New York City

30:02

as well and somehow was still able. To.

30:05

Walk free and then you have. Were

30:07

showing his his image right now in Phoenix.

30:10

Ah, there's this case of this is a

30:12

suspect. Ah, Who? The

30:14

local. Maricopa

30:16

County prosecutor refuses.

30:19

To. Extradite him back to New York.

30:21

Because. I believe she's a woman.

30:23

She says the prosecutor says she doesn't trust

30:25

New York. Or. To handle this case

30:27

because it is a a Sanctuary City right?

30:30

So I mean it comes. It's not just

30:32

that incident that we talked about at the

30:34

top with the murder in the or that

30:36

the assault in the in the I'm store.

30:38

it's also these other cases. And that's

30:40

why this is so significant. Because

30:42

we've had this high profile cases

30:44

and we've seen how the political

30:46

conversation has sometimes dominated a what

30:49

should happen during a what's essentially

30:51

the right to due process right

30:53

and the case of Arizona the

30:55

Da. They are hazard and are

30:57

taking a political position saying that

30:59

the Dnc or in Manhattan isn't

31:02

going to properly prosecute the case

31:04

that that this man is a

31:06

to stand. One thing to remember

31:08

here Jake is. That these crimes

31:10

that you just mentioned his these people

31:12

were to be convicted of those offenses.

31:15

The likeliest outcome is that they would

31:17

be convicted an excuse me that they

31:19

would be deported are at the ending

31:21

of their of their process and that's

31:24

what the whole argument is around. The

31:26

right to due process and whether or

31:28

not people are going to get it

31:30

in the front end of of allegedly

31:33

committing a crime or not, if they'll

31:35

just be turned over to Ice and

31:37

likely to ported without that right. To

31:39

due process. Laurie of has been a

31:42

thanks a Monster Can we have missed the

31:44

moment of truth For present buying critical primary

31:46

day many democrats in Michigan state the propelled

31:48

into the White House. And Twenty Twenty. Are.

31:50

Voting against him right

31:52

now. Because. Of how

31:54

he's handling the situation in Gaza

31:56

Will explain this. Not

32:02

in her Twenty Twenty Four primary in

32:04

a battleground state and a major test

32:07

for President Biden reelection campaign visited by

32:09

the is expected to win Michigan's Democratic

32:11

primary today. That's not in question, but

32:13

we are waiting to see. Whether.

32:15

Voters in the Wolverine state who have

32:18

been told to vote and submitted on

32:20

the ballot today. In. Order to

32:22

protest baggage handling of Israel's war in

32:24

Gaza. Will. Turn out in

32:26

force and demonstrate their ability. To.

32:29

Swing the election to Trump in November.

32:31

In Michigan striking fear. In. The heart

32:33

of the White House. Now we saw Biden. Try.

32:35

To get out ahead of this mode yesterday

32:37

with his comments that a ceasefire in Gaza

32:40

could be near as near as perhaps next

32:42

Monday. Meantime found. Trump is also favorite to

32:44

win tonight in the Republican primary, but voters.

32:47

Also. Have the option of former Governor

32:49

Nikki Haley. Paley has received roughly forty

32:51

percent of the vote in South Carolina

32:53

and New Hampshire. The two previous primaries

32:55

polls close just under four hours from

32:57

now. Hell, He told Cnn earlier, she

32:59

would have liked to have campaigned more

33:01

in Michigan, but she stated this as

33:04

her goal tonight. Our

33:07

goal is to the components. it's always

33:09

tend to be competitive. Then if you're

33:11

getting forty percent, know the early states

33:13

that making a boy. Fell.

33:15

He also making quite a points today

33:17

by saying if Trump wins that you

33:20

have the nomination. It would be like

33:22

quote suicide for our country. And quote.

33:24

Just. Felony his life for us in

33:26

Detroit and Jeff democratic there were some

33:29

and proceeded to leave of Michigan and

33:31

member of the Squad. She represents that

33:33

area where you are. She's urging voters

33:35

to fix uncommitted on their ballot. What

33:37

puts a nice primary results? Tell us.

33:40

About binds coalition in this

33:42

key battleground state. Will

33:46

take. One thing it will show is

33:48

really how deep those cracks are in

33:50

the Biden coalition of course, a former

33:52

President Joe Biden. If you think back

33:54

to four years ago right now, he

33:56

really consolidated the entire Democratic party from

33:58

last death through this. Or or

34:00

that now is a question. There are

34:02

many concerns among the Arab communities here,

34:04

the Muslim American communities as well, but

34:07

it it's extends far beyond that. This

34:09

is not just simply limited to add

34:11

Dearborn, which of course where the concentration

34:13

of Arab Americans and Muslim Americans living

34:15

expenses. younger voters, progressive voters, black voters,

34:17

others. So I'd take this is something

34:19

that the White House's viewing as a

34:21

warning signs of already gotten the message

34:23

to some degree The President was year

34:25

earlier this month. He said his advisors

34:27

out a couple times. Ah, the question.

34:30

Is there Will there be a policy change?

34:32

And that's what this vote for uncommitted is

34:34

about. Tonight it's a protest vote for sure.

34:36

They're trying to earth administration to change their

34:39

policy in the Middle East, and the White

34:41

House has been saying at consistently it's not

34:43

when to be guided by a public opinion

34:45

or political opinion. The take There is no

34:48

doubt about it that Michigan is so central

34:50

to either sides real lesson here as fifteen

34:52

electoral votes in November will be key to

34:55

Joe Biden relaxant work to Donald Trump's lesson

34:57

as well he one in twenty sixteen. So

34:59

by. One in twenty twenty. But the outcome

35:01

of that uncommitted tonight's the strength of that

35:03

supports certainly is going to show how deep

35:06

does crack source in the coalition and I'm

35:08

a towards the White House has to do

35:10

in the President has to do and eight

35:12

months to com after tonight. Or

35:15

I guess only Thanks so much Junior

35:17

Still Michigan's top election officials occurs they

35:19

jostling Benson sector about the thanks so

35:21

much for joining us. Or you've

35:23

noted that more than a million early and

35:26

absentee votes have already been can suggesting high

35:28

turnout. One of the major questions hanging over

35:30

the Democratic primary today is how many voting.

35:32

On committed now in

35:35

previous primaries. Both. Democrat

35:37

and republican. Usually. Twenty

35:39

thousand people are so vote uncommitted.

35:41

Ah, I think there was about

35:44

thirty thousand. In. The Republican

35:46

primary four years ago. But

35:48

generally speaking, twenty thousand. Ah,

35:51

have you seen any of the results

35:53

are what do you think would be

35:55

a high number for this uncommitted effort?

35:58

If we assume the twenty thousand. His

36:00

before. But

36:02

thanks for having me and know we don't

36:04

see any results of any francis allowed to

36:07

the polls close. They're not even calculated by

36:09

any machines and so no one else until

36:11

after the polls close when a things get

36:13

a look like. But I've been traveling the

36:16

states day and visiting early voting sites in

36:18

the ten days prior. It What I've seen

36:20

is a lot of enthusiasm frankly for the

36:22

President and a lot of a recognition of

36:24

the importance of being heard and that some

36:27

people feel he is scaring them, especially with

36:29

it's announcement of the call for. Your

36:31

attempts for a ceasefire next week So.

36:33

My job is simply just make sure how

36:35

far as anyone expresses they're both that they

36:37

got the tools to do so out. But

36:40

we are seeing a lot of voter enthusiasm

36:42

across the board and a lot of recognition

36:44

that the eyes of the nation or and

36:46

Michigan not just in this election, but will

36:48

be this all that I think voters are

36:50

going to be participating in a way that

36:52

reflects the responsibility they feel to really define.

36:54

The future not just for our state, but for a nation.

36:57

Michigan. Gov Gretchen Whitmer has said it's possible

36:59

ten thousand people could vote. On. Committed.

37:02

I'm certain Up and thousand.

37:04

Is about the margin that Trump won the

37:06

say by in two thousand and sixteen. Although

37:09

his a biden wanted by about one hundred

37:11

fifty thousand. And. Twenty Twenty. As.

37:15

I noted around twenty thousand people uncommitted,

37:17

Voted. Uncommitted. In years when there wasn't any

37:19

sort of campaign for uncommitted. How

37:21

do you think the number could go? When.

37:24

Do you think it would be high enough so biden?

37:26

We should worry. So

37:28

we're looking at one million citizens have

37:31

already voted. Maybe another million will vote

37:33

today. I and so on top of

37:35

that are recognizing that and Twenty Twelve

37:37

young to minted vote among Democrats With

37:39

and for sense of the total democratic

37:41

turnout that I was in Twenty Twelve

37:43

which one could argue is a bit

37:45

of a quibbling ear to this one

37:47

read that income the democratic presidents running

37:49

for election in a presidential primaries and

37:51

then in Twenty Twenty as you mentioned

37:53

twenty thousand which was about one percent

37:56

of democrats voted on and nearly thirty

37:58

thousand. Or of four percent republican voted on

38:00

commit. It's about five percent total. So what

38:02

we should be looking for? really? As the

38:04

percentage of the total turn out that

38:06

is voting uncommitted on both sides to

38:08

see if attend any message but to

38:11

also recognize it's really not rare whether

38:13

the camp whether there is a campaign

38:15

for uncommitted are not for citizens to

38:17

choose at this stage of the election

38:19

to be uncommitted even when there's incumbent

38:21

democratic president on the ballot who as

38:24

and twenty twelve was very popular. We

38:26

gotta take all of that into the

38:28

context of what we we reach nights,

38:30

but also not neglect the fact that

38:32

there is a. Clear statement being made

38:35

by citizens, a young voters in particular

38:37

as well as citizens throughout Southeast Michigan

38:39

that they do. once President Biden here,

38:41

they want him to continue to show

38:44

up listening to citizens and they want

38:46

to see some progress and hopefully and

38:48

and the terrible conflict overseas And they

38:51

expect him as their presidents really push

38:53

to ensure that conflict come to an

38:55

end. It's one is one. A Michigan

38:57

was among the places where Trump supporters tried to

39:00

for to will have the people. Are

39:02

Protesters stormed Detroit Vote Counting

39:04

Center and protesters descended on

39:07

your home. Or are

39:09

you worried about that kind of.

39:13

Disgusting. Behavior repeating itself

39:15

or in November. The.

39:18

I know what we saw in Twenty

39:20

Twenty, particularly after the election. I was

39:22

that people who are unhappy with the

39:24

results tried to overturn those results and

39:26

the the people who felt the brunt

39:29

of those attacks And those lies where

39:31

the election workers. I spoke with an

39:33

election worker today in Detroit who actually

39:35

was there in Cobo Hall than Cobo

39:37

Hall in Detroit and Twenty Twenty one

39:39

people were banging on the doors tiny

39:41

get in and interfere with the canning

39:43

process and he said where I think

39:45

reflects how we're all kind of feeling

39:48

is that. We're back where here we

39:50

are determined to do our jobs and protect

39:52

the will of the voters we know we're

39:54

up against. We experienced it first hand and

39:56

Twenty Twenty, but we're prepared for any type

39:59

of challenge, them, pressure to come again and

40:01

we are prepared to protect about to the

40:03

people of Michigan, whatever they may be. And

40:06

Twenty Twenty Four we considered our duty. We're

40:08

proud of the sell our duties and I

40:10

see more enthusiasm and devotion to that responsibility

40:12

said I think they ever have before in

40:15

this position as the Chief Collection Officer for

40:17

the State. Separate or Jocelyn

40:19

Benson Thanks so much coming up next!

40:21

A deadly and growing problem in America.

40:23

Stunning new reports on police car chases

40:25

and how many innocent lives are being

40:28

claimed while police are in hot pursuit.

40:30

Stay with us! In

40:35

Our Law and Justice League at a

40:37

police car chases and with hundreds dead

40:39

every year in the United States, most

40:41

of those killed. Or. Not the

40:43

drivers fleeing the police. The.

40:45

Police officer a passenger.

40:48

Or. A bystander. Are. Far

40:50

more likely to be killed. Investigative journalists

40:52

at the San Francisco Chronicle dug through

40:54

the records. They found the Federal government

40:57

has significantly undercounting the lives lost. In.

40:59

Truth: At least three thousand, Three hundred, Thirty

41:01

six people were killed as a result of

41:03

police pursuits from two thousand and Seventeen Three,

41:05

Two thousand, Twenty two, The Chronicle concludes. More.

41:08

Than fifty two thousand, six hundred

41:10

people were injured during that time

41:12

from the same reason, and despite

41:14

some cities putting tougher policies in

41:16

place limiting when police can chase.

41:19

The. Problem appears to be getting worse. Two.

41:21

Thousand And Twenty And Two Thousand Twenty One Where

41:23

the to deadliest years. On. Record. And

41:26

joined now by reporter or Susie Nielsen when

41:28

the coauthors of this reports thank you. So

41:30

much So, How many Americans? Are

41:32

killed or injured due to police

41:34

chases. Yeah,

41:37

to take the problem is it's vision.

41:39

It's getting better. So in we found

41:41

that in Twenty Twenty and Twenty Twenty

41:44

One, nearly seven hundred people died from

41:46

police chases in both of those yourself,

41:48

and almost two people a day on

41:50

average. White. As

41:53

they're not appear to be any reliable

41:55

federal data. On. What we know

41:57

is a is a dangerous part of

41:59

policing. Sometimes. The necessary part of

42:01

policing, but always dangerous. Yes,

42:04

absolutely. And you know, I think

42:06

most experts agree that a police

42:08

should be allowed to pursue people

42:11

suspected of violent crime. But the

42:13

reality is the vast majority of

42:15

these choices are initiated over minor

42:17

infractions. Traffic Stop A, You know,

42:20

They. The a broken tail light we have

42:22

achieved in our story of that was initiated

42:24

over a cracked windshield. Ah, speeding. Five miles

42:26

an hour of of the speed limit. On.

42:29

We found that the reason the

42:31

Federal government is under Tony.is. You.

42:34

Know in part of a broader

42:36

problem with police use of force

42:38

and. You know, other Avenues

42:40

attorney papers before us had found

42:42

that on. The. Federal government

42:45

also. Significantly undercounts up police shootings, but

42:47

we bought the police Chief of work

42:49

and even more hidden use of deadly

42:51

force. You don't often see it described

42:54

as the use of force, but that's

42:56

what it is. Some. Cities

42:58

have put into place a strict rules.

43:01

About. When police can and should

43:03

chase. A suspect have those

43:05

strict rules have had they had

43:07

any impact. So

43:10

yes we we found in some

43:13

cities on that have instituted restrictive

43:15

policies, pursued deaths and injuries to

43:17

fall, but even when cities to

43:19

impose the policies officers who violate

43:22

them are very rarely held accountable.

43:24

So we submitted stuff like hundreds

43:26

of records request about police officers

43:28

who were accused of violating their

43:31

own department policy, them fatal chases

43:33

and we found that just five

43:35

of them were shot were conducted

43:37

a prime I'm. Very,

43:40

very few people, very their few officers

43:42

are charged with crimes related to misconduct

43:44

and I believe in that same dataset,

43:46

Only twenty were fired, most received very

43:49

light. Discipline is any discipline at all.

43:51

And we should know. it's often

43:53

dangerous for the police officers themselves

43:56

to pursue are criminals or was

43:58

suspected criminals that faith or. Hi

44:00

in these pursuits more than the people

44:02

they're pursuing, right? Move!

44:05

We actually found just about fifteen

44:07

police officers over five. Five.

44:09

Or six years, six years on died

44:11

and he says is that it is

44:14

indeed quite dangerous police officers to get

44:16

injured very often. You know it. With.

44:18

Many of our experts call the police

44:20

chases the most dangerous thing the police

44:23

officers regularly do in their jobs and

44:25

so it's worth asking. You know, If.

44:28

We care about both the police officers

44:30

and of civilians are sworn to protect.

44:32

Why are we allowing this activity to

44:34

go so unregulated across the United States?

44:38

Important. Journalism from says you know since

44:40

I do so much appreciated coming up the

44:42

Cnn's Christiane Amanpour on the ground and butcher

44:44

you play. This is two years after Russes

44:46

brutal occupation with evidence of mass murders Their

44:49

of course she says we're turning out to

44:51

returning to butcher felt like sitting in a

44:53

graveyard syllables. Welcome

44:59

to the Lehman's a sapper. This our one

45:01

male one in could hold the fate of

45:03

you in his hands. And today that man

45:05

the Speaker of the House My Johnson was

45:07

cornered by the President of the United States

45:09

and his fellow top progress in a leaders

45:11

at what as what has been call by

45:13

the. Senate. Majority Leader: One of the

45:16

most intense meetings he's ever been to. In.

45:18

The Oval office will have more on that. Plus, it

45:20

was the site. Of. One of the

45:22

most brutal atrocities of the Russian invasion.

45:24

Bodies tied up and shot, rapes, mass

45:26

killings, Cnn's. Christiane Amanpour returns to

45:29

Butcher You playing two years later. Leading.

45:31

This our, we're very close to learning

45:34

whether President Biden has a major problem

45:36

in a crucial battleground state. The final

45:38

primary. Before. Super Tuesday is underway

45:40

in Michigan and there's a movement against

45:42

Biden. Within. His own party

45:45

over the ongoing war. In. Gaza

45:47

joining us now from Waterford, Michigan

45:49

A scene and correspondent Omar Him

45:51

and his Omer what are you

45:53

hearing on the ground from voters?

45:55

Especially any voters who are going

45:57

to vote uncommitted or to protest

45:59

by this policy. Lisa Be Israel

46:01

and Gaza. Yes,

46:04

we've heard a wide range from a

46:07

lot of different voters for example on

46:09

the Trump's site Things for those voters

46:11

it seems immigration and the economy were

46:13

top minds biden voters. It seems the

46:15

economy and human decency in the White

46:18

House was top minds. And for some

46:20

of those voters who one in particular

46:22

we spoke to who didn't exactly take

46:24

the sept vote on committed by see

46:26

voted for Marianne Williamson who of course

46:28

announcers suspending earlier this month but for

46:31

the very reason that he did not

46:33

agree with house President. Biden was handling

46:35

to Israel, Hamas war and this voter

46:37

told us that he voted for Biden

46:39

in twenty twenty but that this was

46:42

too far in that the civilian death

46:44

toll in Gaza was were some drew

46:46

the line. Now as we know there

46:48

is a major move Men from the

46:50

Listen to Miskin Eyes campaign as has

46:52

been put out to vote on committed

46:54

again to protest. That very same thing

46:57

and with significance about here in Michigan

46:59

is the state has the largest Arab

47:01

American population of any state in the

47:03

country, just under. One hundred Fifty thousand.

47:05

which is significant because that's the margin

47:07

that Joe Biden one the states back

47:09

in twenty twenty Now with such spoke

47:11

about the range that we've been hearing

47:13

from folks. Obviously it's not, we're not

47:15

expecting any surprises force who's going to

47:17

win the primaries on the by side

47:19

of the Trump side of things. But

47:21

do those general election foods or what

47:23

people are looking for? take a listen

47:26

to some voters that we spoke today

47:28

about how they felt about Biden and

47:30

Trump. Donald

47:33

Trump is like three years younger than him.

47:36

We're We're not talking about a big

47:38

difference here and again I think Zola

47:40

surround himself with good, smart capable people

47:43

that will guys him if he is

47:45

on the wrong path. But he is

47:47

a good. Been I could

47:49

say that about Donald Trump. Almond

47:53

Joy government nor retire viewers

47:55

of lumber and I should

47:57

be more democratic senator. Know

47:59

what? No I find said

48:01

I don't work for your. Vinyasa.

48:04

Says the work for me and his policies

48:06

are working for me. Now

48:11

from a voting perspective from a pure numbers

48:13

perspective. Was interesting about this cycle is that

48:15

this is the first election test we've seen

48:18

since the state allowed early and person voting.

48:20

A lot of people took advantage of that

48:22

as tens of thousands but also absentee voting

48:24

and you combine those two over million people

48:27

already voted. and when you take a look

48:29

at the fact that over the little bit

48:31

more than two million people voted and twenty

48:33

times primary obviously a huge chunk which is

48:35

when fox I'm gonna say that's why there

48:38

aren't that many people here at this point

48:40

right now armed as a solid people aren't

48:42

voting. But what we've seen at this location

48:44

is definitely been ah, a little quieter democracy

48:47

in the passively supporting some of the election

48:49

officials here. Fluoride. Omar Jimenez think

48:51

he's a monster and his life from Salt

48:53

Lake City is Kylie out? What's his problem

48:56

with Nikki Haley's campaign? And Kylie Gov. Haley

48:58

is bracing for another potential major loss against

49:00

Donald Trump. What is she saying? About.

49:03

That. Yeah,

49:06

that's right, Any Nikki Haley is really

49:08

trying to focus on what's in front

49:11

of her and one of the cases

49:13

that she has increasingly made to voters

49:15

about Donald Trump not having a path

49:17

forward is because of all of this

49:19

drama surrounding has his really focusing on

49:21

the things that he has said. The

49:23

accent that he has taken, particularly the

49:25

fact that he has his campaign donations

49:28

to pay legal bills and in or

49:30

a conversation with the Wall Street Journal

49:32

earlier today I see sad that See

49:34

believes that he may be in survival.

49:36

Mode with this campaign, using the campaign

49:38

to pay the legal fees, using it

49:41

to have boys a legal perils, and

49:43

then going on to say that that

49:45

is like suicide for the country. Some

49:47

really strong language from her today. she

49:49

also is on Cnn and she essentially

49:52

made this place to Republicans as a

49:54

city choosing her to save the party.

49:58

We. Are telling you. For. All

50:00

the republican party. We're.

50:03

In a ship with a hole in it? You

50:05

can either ignore the whole. And. Go

50:07

down with the ship. Or. You can

50:09

acknowledge that we've gotta look for a life

50:11

raft. So.

50:14

Have to see what happens verdict yearly campaigns

50:17

and I in Michigan but then she is

50:19

headed on to Super Tuesday. Safe coming here

50:21

to Utah tomorrow. This is one of the

50:23

fifteen states that votes on Super Tuesday and

50:25

they will be interesting to see what happened

50:27

in this again because how well she does

50:30

their could give some indication for how well

50:32

she my Sudanese other states because she has

50:34

not been able to send the amount of

50:36

time, energy and resources in all of these

50:38

days that she has in those early states

50:40

is she still hasn't be Donald Trump. Gates.

50:43

The right time we I would think

50:45

so much appreciated. Journey now to discuss

50:47

the Mrs Primary is Laura Barnes is

50:49

that share of the Michigan Democratic Party.

50:52

Chair Bones. thanks for joining us. How

50:55

concerned are you a buzz? Asked about

50:57

this campaign. Or to encourage

50:59

democrats to vote uncommitted instead

51:01

of for President Biden to

51:03

send a message or that

51:05

he should stop funding. Israel

51:07

and he should have supported immediate

51:10

ceasefire in Gaza. Take.

51:13

We works hard to be part of the

51:15

early state process of the Democratic primaries for

51:17

just this reason, so that are voters could

51:20

have their voices heard. For that are voters

51:22

could participate early in the process and make

51:24

sure that the. Candidates was listening to

51:26

them and listening to their issues. and

51:28

that's what's happening now on. these. Folks

51:30

have made their voices heard and I believe President

51:33

Biden the third them based. On what he

51:35

said yesterday about a ceasefire in the possibility

51:37

that happening as early as next week, it's

51:39

clear to me that he has heard the

51:41

voices of these Michigan dollars have spoken up

51:43

loudly and I'm thrilled that the dissipating. I'm

51:45

thrilled that they're going to vote and pulling.

51:48

A democratic ballot and I'm I'm looking

51:50

forward to taking that enthusiasm and in

51:52

November where we will win by beating

51:54

doubled from whence against your Michigan. So.

51:57

You say to that President Biden comments

51:59

about the See. Fire yesterday.

52:02

Yo. To the press

52:04

and and are also on the Seth

52:06

Meyers show you think that was a

52:08

direct result of this campaign or in

52:11

Michigan to encourage people to vote uncommitted

52:13

to protest his position when it comes

52:15

to Israel and Gaza. I

52:18

do. I believe this is the President of

52:20

Compassion and Empathy. He sounded over and over

52:22

again. I know that he's been working on

52:24

this for a long time behind the scenes

52:26

and I think that's yesterday's language said he

52:28

used in the timing of it suggests to

52:30

me that he sees the voters not just

52:32

in Michigan but all over the country but

52:34

loudest course here in Michigan where our community

52:36

has made it very clear that that the

52:38

these are the boards and wanted to hear

52:40

from him. So. Let

52:43

me ask you about the

52:45

uncommitted vote or in previous

52:47

primaries democratic and Republican. Or.

52:49

It's been roughly twenty thousand

52:51

people. Who. Have voted uncommitted

52:53

know without a protest, Campaign.

52:56

Just right. That's that's what they do.

52:59

Ah, two thousand and twelve And two thousand and sixteen.

53:01

And two thousand and one. On. How.

53:03

Many uncommitted votes do you think

53:06

are gonna be registered today In

53:08

the Democratic primary. Ah,

53:10

And you think it will be more than twenty

53:12

thousand? It's hard to take anything lower than twenty

53:14

thousand. As necessarily any sort of

53:17

indication of a protest vote given that

53:19

that's the floor length. Mirrors

53:22

here in Michigan has have the right

53:24

to choose that uncommitted vote. And folks.

53:27

Have done it every cycle that I've been

53:29

part of their party process and us. I

53:31

think that as we look forward which. Is

53:33

what I want to do. Said November: Were going

53:35

to take all of these folks with their enthusiasm.

53:37

For participating this fast as and mates of

53:39

were telling the story of who Joe Biden

53:41

is, what Joe Biden example Harris have done

53:43

for American that from this again there's and

53:45

of course the contrast of Donald Trump is

53:47

and but he's been very clear about what

53:49

he wants to do and is President again

53:51

and was dead when he was presidents and

53:53

when we make that contrast and tell that

53:55

story the numbers that will matter or. The. Votes

53:58

that show up in November for Joe Biden when. When

54:00

Michigan again. When. President Biden went

54:02

to Michigan earlier this month. He met with

54:04

union workers, aren't he? He seemed to avoid

54:06

areas such as Dearborn. Were. There are

54:09

these large Arab, American, a Muslim American communities.

54:11

Do you think he should have visited Dearborn?

54:13

Do you think he should have engaged with

54:15

those communities more? The

54:18

President sent his aides to system to

54:20

Dearborn on multiple times and a C

54:22

will continue to listen to that community

54:24

and I expect to see the President

54:26

turned. Michigan on moving forward. As we go

54:28

through this election there, there's there's time for him

54:30

to get here and have this conversation. If

54:33

there are more than twenty thousand. Or

54:36

uncommitted votes. Will. You be

54:39

worried about. Because. It seems to

54:41

be about November because it seems to be like that

54:43

is a muscle flexing like. Look. A

54:45

loss. And if you are it,

54:47

continue to ignore us. We. Might

54:50

not turn out and as you know president.

54:52

Trump won in two thousand and

54:55

sixteen, beating Hillary Clinton and I

54:57

around ten thousand boats. Gas

55:00

either. I don't worry, work take and

55:02

I'm as the state parties. We have

55:04

rebuilt ourselves after. that's when he sixty

55:06

lox to make sure that we're having

55:08

conversations with voters all over the state

55:10

all the time year round, organizing on

55:12

the grounds. That means on the phones on

55:15

the doors in the social media and we're going

55:17

to continue that. Telling the story of Joe Biden,

55:19

Kamala Harris and the work is done and telling

55:21

the. Story of course of who Donald Trump

55:23

truly as we're going to keep telling that

55:25

story to folks and I think as we

55:27

get to November with a clear choice is

55:30

between those two men are folks will choose

55:32

Joe Biden and Joe Biden the when again.

55:35

Liberal. Barnes thanks to my three times

55:37

a day appreciate it coming up next

55:39

scene and returns to butcher Ukraine. Two

55:42

years after Prudence Army committed brutal atrocities

55:44

during their month long occupation Survivor still

55:46

asking how could this happen and incensed

55:48

onto the White House today over funding

55:50

for Ukraine with the house Speaker facing

55:52

major pressure to unblock an aide. Factors

55:55

What Speaker Johnson is saying after that

55:57

meeting tonight stay with us. In

56:02

our worldly, their images of the

56:04

smoldering wreckage and carnage in butcher Ukraine

56:07

became some of the most damning

56:09

evidence and haunting images of the

56:11

brutal Russian atrocities and the earliest

56:13

days of boots invasion. Now two

56:15

years later as Us Aid for

56:17

Ukraine dries obscene and steep international

56:19

correspondent an Anchor Christian and and

56:21

poor has returned a warning. Some

56:23

of the footage you're about to

56:25

see is quite graphics. Saw

56:30

the Andree Hundred in of

56:32

St. Andrews. service wants me

56:34

to eat cheese Grizzly place

56:37

in history. Hundreds were brutally

56:39

killed his during Russia's months

56:41

long occupation including women, children,

56:44

the elderly nine to nine

56:46

years old. Oh. My God.

56:48

Nineteen, Twenty Three To the Twenty

56:50

Twenty Two. Ninety

56:53

Nine years old and a child is. To his

56:55

own. Or the zebra

56:57

pretty good at the sees. People

56:59

died not during the fighting with

57:01

during the occupation says Father Andree

57:04

When the Russian World came here

57:06

and this is it's face of

57:08

these are corpses These a rape

57:10

people. This is every apartments and

57:12

house looted. This is the face

57:14

of the Russian World success. Of

57:17

this place to precious Father Andree

57:20

became known off to the Russians.

57:22

were pushed back for revealing the

57:24

size of a mass graves just.

57:26

Here on his shirts. Grounds

57:28

filled with one hundred sixty

57:30

pieces. He

57:33

shows me the original posting

57:35

about it on Facebook march

57:37

Twelve and Twenty Twenty Two

57:39

when Russian forces was still

57:41

occupying Miuccia and. From this memorial

57:43

you can see that red House Most

57:45

of the family was killed as they

57:47

tried. To sleep when the

57:49

Russians turned a heavy machine

57:51

gun on their com is

57:54

still haunts and horrifies. The

57:56

grandmother Valentina, said moreover, says

57:58

Christmas is very. Hard for

58:00

me to remember this. two years of

58:02

costs and it seems like it's happened

58:05

today. She says I saw them off

58:07

to get out of this hell but

58:09

they didn't They were soft serve both.

58:13

This. Is the saints? They

58:15

were trying to escape the

58:18

main street yeah, Blonska in

58:20

this residential keep, suburbs strewn

58:22

with bodies all clearly civilians,

58:24

the discovery of basement towards

58:26

her and execution centers people

58:28

forced to kneel and lie

58:30

with hands tied behind their

58:32

backs, women and girls rains.

58:36

How could this happen? South

58:38

of this has been. Standing

58:41

and yeah, blows the streets today

58:43

feels a little like standing in

58:45

a graveyard is where the horrors

58:47

of the Russian invasion was first

58:49

exposed and it remains sealed of

58:52

evidence, a memorial and a pilgrimage.

58:54

Site. Because I was. We believe that these

58:56

of war crimes and this all would be

58:58

recognized as a genocide by the world. Presence.

59:01

Lenski came here April fools, Twenty

59:03

Twenty Two right after his forces

59:05

robe the Russians out, and he

59:08

brings all his international visitors and

59:10

world leaders to Boucher to remind

59:12

the world just what they're fighting

59:15

against. Moscow. His claims without evidence that

59:17

this was all staged and was a

59:19

planned media. Campaign Ruslan Fedotenko was

59:21

the war crimes prosecutors. He is

59:24

now Governor of the cave. Reason

59:26

for place for so I'll do

59:28

you remember. When the Russians said it

59:30

was. Over the borders with Whole

59:33

and that Ukrainians had killed

59:35

people themselves a lot of political.

59:37

When we seize the phone we

59:39

prove to the whole world

59:42

that it was the Russians who

59:44

killed whoop Whoop Ukrainians. Through

59:46

some says the crimes investigations continue

59:48

using a trove of evidence

59:50

from multiple cameras, phones and other

59:53

recordings but when they inform

59:55

the Russian soldiers they identify they

59:57

don't cooperate and Father Andrew

59:59

he tells us the awful truth

1:00:02

is that bodies are still

1:00:04

being discovered today Two years on

1:00:06

natural begins to from time. To

1:00:08

time we find someone by accident.

1:00:10

he says the Russians had hidden

1:00:12

their bodies somewhere and we find

1:00:14

them. So unfortunately the number

1:00:17

of people who died is increasing.

1:00:20

Christiane. Amanpour, Cnn

1:00:22

Butcher. And.

1:00:25

Back home, a White House meeting today

1:00:27

over funding for Ukraine apparently got very

1:00:30

heated. With. The speaker the house

1:00:32

like Johnson under pressure to on

1:00:34

boxer aid package that the Senate

1:00:36

passed to house members working to

1:00:38

go around. Speaker Johnson. Join. Us

1:00:40

next. Internationally,

1:00:46

President Biden gathered congressional leaders in

1:00:48

the Oval office today among the

1:00:50

topics: the money that Ukraine forces

1:00:53

desperately need in their fight against

1:00:55

Russia. Ukraine.

1:01:03

I think the cost of everyday

1:01:06

in Ukraine or dire. On

1:01:09

the set aside, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, a

1:01:11

democrat call this one of the most intense

1:01:14

meanings he's ever had in the Oval office.

1:01:16

Republican leader Mitch Mcconnell spoke of quotes making

1:01:18

real headway. But the reality of the situation

1:01:20

is this: the fate of. The. Funding

1:01:23

for Ukraine it Israel rests now with

1:01:25

the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson

1:01:27

and joined now by two members of

1:01:29

the House who say they are no

1:01:31

longer are willing to wait for Speaker

1:01:33

Johnson and they're trying to force a

1:01:35

vote themselves through what's called the discharge.

1:01:38

Petition with us are Congressmen Ryan

1:01:40

Fitzpatrick of the Great Commonwealth of

1:01:42

Pennsylvania and Democratic Congress Jared Golden

1:01:44

from the Great State of Maine.

1:01:46

Congressmen Goldblum start. With. You, you're

1:01:48

both pitching this pared down proposal.

1:01:51

For. Ukraine aid, border security arm,

1:01:53

and and Israeli. It also right

1:01:56

forty nine billion instead of sixty

1:01:58

billion. And. This move is it. The

1:02:00

charge petition. Or just to

1:02:02

explain very quickly, you need to hundred eighteen

1:02:04

votes to pass something on the for the

1:02:06

house. In this case, you need to hundred

1:02:08

eighteen signatures even to force it onto the

1:02:10

floor for a vote even if the speaker

1:02:12

opposes it's how many votes d How many

1:02:14

signatures to have on the disc parts are?

1:02:16

it's petition right now. While.

1:02:21

Right now I think I would actually

1:02:23

leave it to brined answer that question

1:02:25

because he submitted on the Vi discharge

1:02:27

petition itself. Or but I think the

1:02:30

answer is is we don't necessarily have

1:02:32

any because we haven't been back in

1:02:34

session. I should be obsession. Given the

1:02:36

twin crises that Brian and I are

1:02:38

trying to deal at which is the

1:02:41

crisis at our southern border and of

1:02:43

course the crisis on the battlefield granite

1:02:45

were trying to avert Trump's on the

1:02:47

job of, I think we're a key

1:02:50

point. Here is the democratic. My already

1:02:52

has often tried to use the discharge

1:02:54

petition as a tool for trying to

1:02:56

pressure are ya the majority no matter

1:02:59

who's in the majority and as a

1:03:01

way to try and force or thanks

1:03:03

to the house floor, I've yet to

1:03:06

see any are members of the republican

1:03:08

majority sign any discharge petition. So what's

1:03:10

significant about this is the fact that.

1:03:13

Ours is led by a republican Brian Says

1:03:15

Patrick who tried to do the right thing

1:03:17

here out of an acknowledgement of the importance

1:03:19

of these issues and how timely they are.

1:03:22

I'm. Old enough to remember Republicans forcing something onto

1:03:25

the floor and discharge petition but they were

1:03:27

led by Newt Gingrich. Overseas. Ninety

1:03:29

Ninety Three Ninety Ninety Four. I'm coming

1:03:31

from Golden or before we go to

1:03:33

Congressman as it's Patrick. There's. Funding

1:03:35

for Israel in this as well One. Thousand.

1:03:43

All the. Armies

1:03:46

are at that. You're directing no, no

1:03:48

into my colleague by an ionizer. You

1:03:50

know this. funding for Israel? Of.

1:03:53

Course: Funding for Israel Federal funding

1:03:55

for Taiwan Of my main part

1:03:57

here is funding for Ukraine Ukraine.

1:04:00

The border. The. Reason I ask is

1:04:02

because there are some democrats like In The

1:04:04

Squad and others who won't support it because

1:04:06

of funding for Israel. And I'm wondering if

1:04:08

you think that's going to be impediment, an

1:04:10

impediment to getting democratic signatures. I

1:04:14

think they're getting anything done as it

1:04:16

relates to supporting our allies and in

1:04:18

the fight. and Ukraine in Israel are

1:04:21

supporting Taiwan and addressing the crisis at

1:04:23

the borders. Gonna have to grow out

1:04:25

of the middle. And saw not

1:04:27

as concerned about people in the far left or far

1:04:29

right. So Congress and

1:04:32

Fitzpatrick are there Other republicans?

1:04:34

That will join you. This is as Congressmen

1:04:36

Golden was alluding. This is bold of you

1:04:38

to do brave of you to do. Either.

1:04:41

Other republicans that will join you in

1:04:43

gold and going around Speaker Johnson. To.

1:04:45

Force A Votes. On. Funding

1:04:47

for Ukraine. Father.

1:04:52

Is and Sites. I spoke to several just last

1:04:54

night. And I wouldn't

1:04:56

necessarily phrases sake is going around

1:04:58

anybody. This assists the added pressure points

1:05:01

node the politics of very very tough

1:05:03

as you are well aware. The

1:05:06

houses to vote margin in the house.

1:05:08

Republicans it's to vote Democrat Margin

1:05:10

The said it's on very very

1:05:12

tough, existential, time sensitive issues so

1:05:14

we're not trying to circumvent or

1:05:17

or and anyone. Quite quite the

1:05:19

contrary, were trying to put an

1:05:21

additional pressure points. Or something that

1:05:23

has to happen. As you

1:05:25

know, Jake. I used to live in Ukraine, I

1:05:27

was enough the eyes and see if I just

1:05:29

got back from sees. A few

1:05:31

days ago and and I spoke

1:05:33

at length the President Solecki and

1:05:35

Munich with up with such Sherman

1:05:37

Turner, Hakeem Jeffries and it opened

1:05:40

his he he has weeks and

1:05:42

months. Before Russia makes a major

1:05:44

breakthrough on this front lines, this is a

1:05:46

legacy type issue. We cannot sit back and

1:05:48

play politics with people's lives. Since one of

1:05:51

the things that Sheridan I have been working

1:05:53

on. His. Tying you know Borders

1:05:55

you know across the globe both

1:05:57

in Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, and or.

1:06:00

However, border or because if we're gonna

1:06:02

it sustain his efforts because Vladimir Putins

1:06:04

using think hims or new in the

1:06:07

eye toward are not going away their

1:06:09

persistence. Their. Persistent threats. So we have

1:06:11

to have a persistent message. And.

1:06:13

A Persistent messages as

1:06:15

borders and democracies are

1:06:17

inextricably intertwined. And. Democracies

1:06:19

are necessary for freedom. That.

1:06:21

We cannot have a situation where it'll at

1:06:24

geek a false to rush as it did

1:06:26

in the past week. And.

1:06:29

A lake, In a Riley passes away,

1:06:31

gets killed I'm sorry, gets murdered. In

1:06:34

Georgia. and in in in the past seventies

1:06:36

as well. On chew hundred families

1:06:38

had a bury their child. For.

1:06:40

Set know the roses and we can linked

1:06:43

directly back to the southern border. So this

1:06:45

is a message about borders and democracies and

1:06:47

how they're intellects. So you said that. you

1:06:49

have talked of Republicans who are willing to

1:06:52

sign the discharge petition. Can you name any

1:06:54

of the know. I'd

1:06:56

rather not. I'm going to keep our conversations private

1:06:59

at respect to them. So

1:07:01

cumbersome. Golden. I'm the one of the

1:07:03

reasons that this is forty nine billion

1:07:05

dollars instead of sixty billion dollars is

1:07:07

because. Our. Money for humanitarian aid

1:07:09

for Gaza is not included in this Want?

1:07:11

Why is it not included. Well.

1:07:16

For starters, Brian and I really

1:07:18

want boiled the bill or out

1:07:20

of the senate down to it's

1:07:22

base I and start from a

1:07:24

place where we could agree on

1:07:26

and where we think many times

1:07:28

and republicans can agree of what

1:07:30

is the greatest kind of emergency.

1:07:33

Or what is most pressing. And. We

1:07:35

think the answer to that is

1:07:37

getting control at our border different tools

1:07:39

to the border patrol to do that

1:07:42

and secondly it is military assistance to

1:07:44

the battlefield in Ukraine. Or

1:07:46

we're not opposed to humanitarian aid. and in

1:07:48

fact, Brian A set up a process where

1:07:50

if we get this still the floor, they

1:07:52

will be amendments and opportunities to. I'll let

1:07:54

the house decide whether or not to include

1:07:56

humanitarian aid. Some people think that should be,

1:07:58

just some people think it should be in

1:08:00

the form of alone. So we're open to

1:08:02

the debate. Yeah.

1:08:05

So you talked about the the need

1:08:08

for their to be am security at

1:08:10

the Southern border and in the border

1:08:12

Security. Part of of this legislation that

1:08:14

you two are pushing and want the

1:08:16

signatures of two hundred and eighteen of

1:08:18

your fellow congressmen and women are to

1:08:20

force it onto the floor for a

1:08:22

for a vote on. It reinstates the

1:08:24

remain in Mexico policy. Or and

1:08:26

I'm wondering, a Congressman Fitzpatrick that

1:08:29

seems like something that would be

1:08:31

a sweetener for Republicans. Are.

1:08:33

That even goes farther. That part of it goes

1:08:35

farther than the compromise legislation that was worked on.

1:08:38

In. The Senate. But I'm wondering

1:08:40

if. However, much.

1:08:43

I. Like what you guys are doing

1:08:45

and however much I think the discharge petition

1:08:47

process abuse all the time I'm wondering if.

1:08:51

You. Almost are not easily. Believing.

1:08:54

That. People want to solve the problem

1:08:56

as opposed to run on it in

1:08:58

November. Well.

1:09:02

That's all that's on every single. never

1:09:04

to make that decision for themselves and

1:09:06

their districts. I will tell you. take

1:09:08

that added. That. The Battle that

1:09:10

Ukraine is fighting Us Russes, Not just

1:09:13

about Ukraine. This is about freedom versus

1:09:15

dictatorship. A We have dictators across the

1:09:17

globe that it's front of read litigates.

1:09:19

Yeah, com a World War two. Democracy.

1:09:21

Prevailed in World War Two and yet

1:09:24

you had these dictators are rising some

1:09:26

by the way arm for you know

1:09:28

even a Nato type countries that get

1:09:31

a their countries like like that Turkey

1:09:33

and hundred and backsliding towards dictatorship So

1:09:35

this is a great threat. And

1:09:37

we either side on the on the

1:09:40

on the on the perspective of freedom

1:09:42

and democracy. Or. We

1:09:44

don't and that's a decision that everybody needs to

1:09:46

make. But. To make this this that

1:09:48

make this argument over the long term

1:09:51

j we have to be about Borders

1:09:53

Said if you support our border you

1:09:55

have to support other democracies. Borders that

1:09:57

supports borders of our our allies overseas.

1:10:00

The defend our border and that's what our. That's.

1:10:02

What I'm Bill is about and and were willing to

1:10:04

said to die in this hill. Jake

1:10:06

This is time sensitive, is existential, and

1:10:08

this is a legacy type item. Or

1:10:11

Congressmen Brian Fitzgerald of The Transfers,

1:10:13

Patrick Rather of Pennsylvania and you're

1:10:15

Golden of Main. Thanks. To both

1:10:17

of you, best of luck with the discharge petition.

1:10:22

You. That sex and You takes more time with

1:10:24

our political panel on the A Fight and

1:10:26

President Biden battle Michigan to win back the

1:10:28

support of some democratic voters breaking with him

1:10:30

over the war in Gaza. We're about to

1:10:32

learn how many very soon still with us.

1:10:38

In our politics lead, President Biden is

1:10:40

urging congressional leaders to try to reach

1:10:43

an agreement on desperately needed age Ukraine.

1:10:45

He hosted leaders Schumer and Mcconnell. Speaker

1:10:47

Johnson and Leader Jeffries in the Oval

1:10:50

office earlier. The President also software aid

1:10:52

to Israel, and that is a major

1:10:54

issue in today's Democratic primary Michigan, where

1:10:56

there is a movement underway on the

1:10:59

left to have democratic voters go uncommitted.

1:11:01

Instead. Of for by this would be a

1:11:03

protest against by his refusal. To. Call for

1:11:06

immediate ceasefire without conditions and Gaza Let's

1:11:08

bring in or of a political panel

1:11:10

we have with as republican strategist L.

1:11:12

Stewart. Former. National Coalition Structure for the

1:11:14

Twenty Twenty by her campaign as we all

1:11:16

sense and Cnn's senior political analyst run Brownstone

1:11:18

run the Me to start with you. So

1:11:20

after that sense really how Speaker Johnson told

1:11:23

Reporters of the White House he thinks that

1:11:25

Congress quote must take care of America's needs

1:11:27

first before any agreements on Ukraine aid can

1:11:29

get through. America's needs I

1:11:31

got to defines as the border any week that

1:11:34

we are in the upside down right? I mean

1:11:36

you know, Mike Johnson and has refused to bring

1:11:38

to the floor of the bipartisan Porterville that would

1:11:40

have probably passed the senate with sixty votes at

1:11:43

the house. I have been willing to do it

1:11:45

and then he says that the reason they can

1:11:47

deal with it is because none and there's no

1:11:49

as much on it's this is a momentous normally

1:11:51

so I think you know it's a point. Understand,

1:11:54

like the magnitude of what we're watching When Dwight

1:11:56

Eisenhower be roberts after Nine Seasons and see what

1:11:58

was viewed as the victory. In the

1:12:00

Republican Party of the International Us over

1:12:03

the isolationists forces that has been the

1:12:05

balance of power in every Republican presidency

1:12:07

since even under Trump, there was significant

1:12:09

remnant of Reaganite International Us in the

1:12:12

Congress and even in his administration who

1:12:14

resisted this kind of neo nationalist inward

1:12:16

point. Now, in a situation where majority

1:12:18

of house republicans voted against Ukraine aid

1:12:21

or majority of senate republicans voted against

1:12:23

the House will not even take it

1:12:25

up. We are watching the both. It.

1:12:28

To. Really seventy years of political history

1:12:30

and one that takes the Republican party

1:12:32

in the next in extraordinary new direction

1:12:34

that we haven't seen really since before

1:12:36

were to all though Speaker Johnson could

1:12:38

have his cake and eat it too

1:12:41

much as he doesn't lobby against the

1:12:43

Fitzpatrick Golden a proposal that we just

1:12:45

talked about with as members of Congress

1:12:47

and just reiterate for those just joining

1:12:49

us. Republican and Democrat have

1:12:52

a pared down a bill. Or

1:12:54

forty nine billion dollars A Ukraine aid to Israel,

1:12:56

a to Taiwan and a to the border. Or

1:12:59

it is more conservative than the bill that

1:13:01

they were working on in the senate because

1:13:03

it has no humanitarian aid for Gaza. And.

1:13:06

It has the remain in Mexico policy at the

1:13:08

border, but. Fitzpatrick. A Saying it

1:13:10

would be an open amendment process of people. the

1:13:13

will of the people could actually work. It's way.

1:13:15

Know. For some reason, that's not our

1:13:17

Congress functions. But. In my

1:13:19

mind, what's the problem with. Getting.

1:13:22

It out on the floor. Having. People

1:13:24

vote for amendments. Make it better. Make it

1:13:26

it make it better be. I don't care

1:13:28

but have something happened. While. So

1:13:30

a logical person who actually wants to do

1:13:32

the job that they were elected or and

1:13:34

some instances hired to do say what Do

1:13:37

it But that's how I thought what my

1:13:39

Johnson wants to do He said over and

1:13:41

over i want to meet with the president

1:13:43

while you just met with the president's lesson

1:13:45

is something for it's but they are obstructionist

1:13:47

and once you campaign on the issue of

1:13:49

the borders and then when democrats said and

1:13:51

did great concessions to wrong place on the

1:13:53

immigration bells on this that's it Because they

1:13:55

wanted to be read me to their base.

1:13:58

They are not interested in governing fair. Interested

1:14:00

in protecting democracy here or in

1:14:02

Ukraine. and they they are really

1:14:04

playing gambling with business, the stability

1:14:06

of America's role in the world

1:14:08

and also are stability as a

1:14:10

country and it's unfortunate and syrups

1:14:12

of. But my final point is

1:14:14

you know wrong with said that

1:14:16

is a book into a seventy

1:14:18

year but that book and had

1:14:21

a massive wit blast this about

1:14:23

eight years ago and that became

1:14:25

because of Donald Trump who is

1:14:27

taking the party into a direction

1:14:29

that doesn't. Want Democracy is a real

1:14:31

problem here. Washington is Congress and members of

1:14:33

Congress are so transactional they will give you

1:14:35

x unless you give them why and that

1:14:37

goes on both sides of the out. If

1:14:39

you really take a look at all these

1:14:42

issues that were talking about whether it's Israel,

1:14:44

whether it's of others, Ukraine, weather's even Taiwan

1:14:46

and the border. each and every one of

1:14:48

these are worthy of support from both sides

1:14:50

in and of themselves because they are so

1:14:52

important and Republicans could get what they wanna

1:14:54

eat of these issues. and Democrats could also

1:14:57

get what they want. But. That. That

1:14:59

doesn't happen in Washington anymore and not only

1:15:01

is it disingenuous in terms of getting things

1:15:03

done, it's dangerous for Tesla will have a

1:15:05

crisis of the border and we have the

1:15:07

escalation of the crisis that we have our

1:15:09

off and Israel and Ukraine and all these

1:15:11

are issues that if they were smart and

1:15:14

did the job that they were hired to

1:15:16

do they would handle these individual in the

1:15:18

things that. Not a speaker John: Somebody would

1:15:20

put it with the senate bill on the

1:15:22

floor. if it if it was on the

1:15:24

floor rude probably phone bill roger Most democrats

1:15:26

in a big chunk of Republicans but that's

1:15:29

the risk of flooding. The will of the

1:15:31

people are work. It's worth what. Workers were

1:15:33

under the floor. And a big part of

1:15:35

that and the I was encouraged when it

1:15:37

came out today saying he was optimistic that

1:15:39

they would make progress at least on that

1:15:41

defending else But the problem with many republicans

1:15:43

it is not necessarily many republicans As Donald

1:15:45

Trump he is the one calling all the

1:15:47

shots and they are afraid to stand up

1:15:49

to him and or Johnson and many of

1:15:51

the house republicans anyway want more of a

1:15:53

version of Hr to which is what they

1:15:55

put forth was they see as a better

1:15:57

way to a secure the border and and

1:15:59

limousine. Improper, but. Again,

1:16:01

their desire to sick with Hr Two or

1:16:04

nothing gives us a situation where we have

1:16:06

no progress at the border and they're letting

1:16:08

the perfect biddy and me as a good and

1:16:10

me lol. There's this. A. Crisis of the Border

1:16:12

living as you couldn't what is a

1:16:14

chore to pick up games which the

1:16:16

house passed. a very conservative of border

1:16:18

bill went to the senate. And

1:16:21

and speaker I'm sorry and leader of our

1:16:23

humor let a coma for a vote right?

1:16:26

I mean that would never happen to be imposed as

1:16:28

he opposes it. But and then Donald Trump said i

1:16:30

don't want that to pass either that the wouldn't us

1:16:32

and my don't want that message or because I want

1:16:34

this is out know I look the. Donald.

1:16:37

Trump has broken the will of the Republican

1:16:39

party to resist him on I was on

1:16:41

almost any front of you seen some food

1:16:43

and door some of those reports of but

1:16:45

Mcconnell are getting ready to do so. I

1:16:47

think it would be hard for the the

1:16:49

remain in Mexico is a is a hard

1:16:51

to use for them as I even wonder

1:16:53

their swords eighteen votes in the house for

1:16:55

that versions or that they've come forward with

1:16:57

but what I mean the senate bill that

1:16:59

that the thing that understand of the senate

1:17:01

bill is that all of us since quotes

1:17:03

and sessions the democrats weren't issues other than

1:17:05

immigration. I mean the immigration. Policies pretty consistently

1:17:07

moves and Republican directly particular by changing the

1:17:09

standard the Eurozone for a silenced in a

1:17:11

way that would would significantly reduce the number

1:17:14

of asylum seekers who think get the first

1:17:16

place. yeah said I had and and that

1:17:18

was a clear Conservative victory. Doesn't have everything

1:17:20

they want but as thousand point in the

1:17:22

old days if you are, get real Iran

1:17:24

ratings to say you know seventy five percent

1:17:26

agreement. you're my friend, not might not my

1:17:28

enemies. If you're getting seventy five percent of

1:17:31

what you want and giving a very little

1:17:33

on the other side, you would take it.

1:17:35

Now it's a very different worlds. By the

1:17:37

way, the number of immigrant major immigration bill

1:17:39

to pass when Donald Trump was President and

1:17:41

control the house and senate? Zero. Zero. Absolutely

1:17:43

Zero everyone. Thanks so much appreciate it's coming

1:17:46

up next. President Biden said he thinks a

1:17:48

Gaza C Sar deal could be reached by

1:17:50

early next week, but both Israel and Hamas

1:17:52

officials are casting doubt on out stay with

1:17:54

Us. In

1:18:01

our worldly negotiators working on a

1:18:03

hostage and cease fire deal in

1:18:05

Gaza, Israel Or cautioning. Against

1:18:07

President Biden, optimism that a deal could

1:18:09

be reached by next Monday. And

1:18:11

Israeli official tells Cnn that Israel

1:18:14

was surprised by Bidens timeline. Wallach

1:18:16

Atari official said the disagreements. Remain.

1:18:18

Over how many Israeli hostages will

1:18:20

be exchanged for how many Palestinian

1:18:22

prisoners, and whether Israeli troops will

1:18:24

withdraw entirely from Gaza during the

1:18:27

ceasefire. President. Biden last night

1:18:29

also outlined in idea that Israeli

1:18:31

Prime Minister Netanyahu has all but

1:18:33

rejected. There's.

1:18:36

A process underway and I think if

1:18:38

we get said that temporary ceasefire for

1:18:40

going to be able to move in

1:18:42

a direction where we can change the

1:18:45

dynamics and not have a two state

1:18:47

solution immediately brunt of process to get

1:18:49

to a two state solution. Let's

1:18:53

bring in Barack Ravi scene and

1:18:55

political and Global Affairs analyst and

1:18:57

foreign policy reporter for Axxeo Barack.

1:18:59

Good to see as a you

1:19:01

have new reporting breaking this evening

1:19:03

that in the midst of these

1:19:05

hostage and ceasefire talk to the

1:19:07

Us is seeking written assurances from

1:19:09

Israeli leaders that they will abide

1:19:11

by international law. While using

1:19:13

weaponry provided by the Us,

1:19:15

what Is Israel's response? But.

1:19:19

well I think of these very

1:19:21

are a real concern about this

1:19:23

thing that is very officials told

1:19:26

me that premise it's and ya

1:19:28

is freaking out. About this

1:19:30

because he or somebody else from

1:19:32

his government. Will. Have to commit

1:19:34

in writing. Not only enough to

1:19:36

use Us weapons are in a

1:19:39

way that this country the victory

1:19:41

to international law but you'll also

1:19:43

have to commit in writing to

1:19:45

allow ah humanitarian aid into God

1:19:47

that any money train aid from

1:19:49

the west or this has the

1:19:52

support of the Us and not

1:19:54

in any way And for ah

1:19:56

it's a from entering that's something

1:19:58

that as as we. Not

1:20:00

exactly the case right now. Ah, this

1:20:02

thing is the result by the way

1:20:05

of a new policy announced by our

1:20:07

President Biden just a few weeks ago

1:20:09

and a Us officials told the today

1:20:11

that they expect to get this recent

1:20:14

commitment I mean match which is too

1:20:16

weak for know. If

1:20:18

Netanyahu and his government fail

1:20:21

to comply with this Us

1:20:23

demand with this policy, What

1:20:26

will the U S do? Well,

1:20:29

as according to this policy,

1:20:31

ah, if Netanyahu government ah

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provide such differences in writing

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know he's okay with those

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that our arms shipments from the Us

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to Israel would be asked will be

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and. So. You know, And

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so we're basically two to three weeks

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A ceasefire deal. President Biden said.

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he warned Netanyahu that Israel. Will.

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it's current path. Netanyahu made us a

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point of a pushing back on that

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with a video message. What did Netanyahu

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