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0:02

Day One of the New York Hush Money cover

0:04

up case against Donald Trump. It's wrapping up any

0:06

minute. The leads starts right now. Major

0:09

rulings already. His first day of pro

0:12

comes to a close. A Playboy model

0:14

is being allowed to testify that into

0:16

this Access Hollywood tape not allowed to

0:18

be aired in court. Plus a decision

0:20

put off on a potential gag order

0:23

violation by Donald Trump will have all

0:25

the moments as this rather salacious case

0:27

gets going. Was one key name on

0:29

the witness list. What former Trump. White

0:31

House aide Hope Hicks has already

0:33

said on the record what that

0:36

might mean for her former bosses

0:38

case and Israel's war cabinet meets

0:40

again weighing how to strike back

0:42

after of Irans unprecedented direct attack.

0:44

What Cnn his hearing about the

0:46

calculations their make it. Work

0:52

and the lead and Jake Tapper would

0:54

begin with are breaking news. Jury selection

0:56

in former President Donald Trump's criminal trial

0:58

in New York City is underway, but

1:00

moments ago, more than half of this

1:03

first batch of prospective jurors. Were. Sent

1:05

home package. Why? Well they said. They.

1:07

Could not be fair or impartial.

1:10

And. Just about thirty minutes. Donald Trump's

1:12

first day in this trial will

1:14

come to an end. but before

1:16

jury selection even began, prosecutors were

1:18

already asking Judge One Marshawn to

1:20

find Donald Trump. They. Were accusing

1:22

him of violating his gag order with three

1:24

social media posts he made about the case,

1:27

including one it Nine Twelve Eastern this morning.

1:29

Possibly. Wall actually inside court.

1:32

Trump in one post referred to

1:34

to key witnesses as sleaze bags.

1:36

those were his former attorney, Michael

1:38

Cohen in his former alleged paramour

1:40

adult film star director Stormy Daniels.

1:43

Remember, Donald Trump is being charged

1:45

with thirty four counts of falsifying

1:47

business records to cover up. The.

1:49

Alleged role in a hush money scheme

1:51

to by Daniel Silence and that

1:53

have another alleged mistress. Before.

1:55

The Twenty Sixteen Election. Here's a Stormy

1:58

Daniels Her self described it. It

2:00

as an eighteen. Was

2:03

it hush money to say silent? Yes.

2:06

All right, well. Ah, Trump

2:09

denied of course knowing anything about it.

2:20

He. Said he did not know anything about how many payments

2:22

a Stormy dangles. but then in two the as a

2:24

nineteen. Michael. Cohen testified before

2:26

Congress and he said something

2:28

else. I

2:31

am ashamed that I chose to

2:33

take part in concealing Mister Trump's

2:35

elicit acts. Rather than listening

2:37

to my own conscience. Mister

2:40

Trump has pleaded not guilty, He is

2:42

denying the affairs and as we wait

2:45

for a jury to be seeded and

2:47

for the judge's ruling on that alleged

2:49

gag order violation, Just Marshawn has been

2:51

deciding what evidence and what testimony jurors

2:53

will be allowed to sear. Cnn.

2:56

C Legal Affairs Correspondent Paul. Results are the

2:58

courtroom for us and for the jury Selection

3:00

process has begun and already about fifty people

3:02

have been let go. Yeah,

3:07

over fifty like those because they felt

3:09

they could not be impartial in this

3:11

case and they got a significant number

3:13

Because the Trump team, fox and one

3:15

to have that statistic David want every

3:17

one is as dismiss in that first

3:20

phase or the lumps in his life

3:22

he wanted us to take anything for

3:24

an appeal I did they expect to

3:26

avenge latter possibly appeal this case and

3:28

they want to be able to point

3:31

say look we lost over half of

3:33

the potential jurors because they could not

3:35

be impartial. Now after that

3:37

long lost about ten additional people for

3:39

other reasons and then they are taking

3:41

a smaller group of potential jurors and

3:44

his health have to go through this

3:46

injury questionnaire questions like where do you

3:48

work, where do you get your news,

3:50

and how do you feel about the

3:53

former president. I think it's remarkable because

3:55

these people have to answer these questions

3:57

in front of the former presidents or

3:59

Madsen. The pressure there, but that is

4:01

a process as they would be conducted

4:03

for any other defendants Now so far

4:06

as they have not selected a single

4:08

zero, but it's not even clear the

4:10

little to do that today. They will

4:12

continue this process, starting with approximately one

4:14

hundred people and wiggling them down each

4:16

day except for Wednesday's on repeat until

4:18

they select twelve jurors and six alternate.

4:21

So far have there been any

4:23

big wins for Trump. Or.

4:26

For the prosecution. And

4:30

the biggest win for Trans was getting that

4:32

statistic about those who can't be in power

4:34

source for done Before jury selection got underway,

4:36

there were lot of other motions our lot

4:39

about evidence. These questions to the judge had

4:41

to resolve any lose some when some for

4:43

both sides For example the prosecution's have and

4:45

that Judge Marshawn will not recuse himself from

4:48

this case and we didn't expect that he

4:50

would. the Trump team has been pushing for

4:52

that. That issue is still pending before the

4:54

court of appeal, but he declined to do

4:56

that at the outset. The judge also ruled

4:59

that terror in. Nick Subo, who also

5:01

receive hush money upper her alleged affair with

5:03

former President sounds the head of the twenties

5:05

exceeds. Supply and

5:08

also the evidence of other stories

5:10

about to opponent that were amplified

5:12

by the National Enquirer can be

5:14

included. Now those two things are

5:16

significant because they help the District

5:18

Attorney's argument that all of this

5:20

the hush money payments, a Stormy

5:22

Daniels at his other payments, the

5:24

other mistresses and then stories as

5:26

I would be helpful to talk

5:28

they were negative about. His opponents that

5:30

all of this is part of an apple

5:32

to interfere in a twenty six female accent.

5:35

At the time team also had

5:37

some wins For example the.will Not

5:39

Allow and the Internet access Hollywood

5:41

to he also will not allow

5:43

and portions of the deposition from

5:45

the Easy and Carol Civil litigation

5:47

where this tape was discuss Any

5:49

also says that three accounts of

5:51

sexual assault by former President Trump's

5:53

it's Surface after the Access Hollywood

5:55

tape snows and will also not

5:58

be allowed any. So again it's

6:00

all pretty minor evidentiary issue fight

6:02

someone so the prosecution philosopher the

6:04

prosecution save with the defensive. For

6:06

a polarizing so much or soon and legal

6:08

he analysts are here. I carry Cordero know

6:10

we've only got Ellie. Do you think that

6:13

they will be able The prosecutors and defense

6:15

and the judge will? They be able to

6:17

find an impartial. Jury is or

6:19

is it possible for Donald Trump to

6:21

be tried by impartial jury in Manhattan.

6:23

So the technical legal answer to that

6:26

Take his yes, The. Prosecutors.

6:28

Were correct for some water charges case in Manhattan.

6:30

Sometimes prosecutors engage in a little bit of forum

6:33

shopping. Sometimes you have an option of multiple counties

6:35

are multiple districts A maybe you look for one

6:37

that's more favorable. Steer of Manhattan was the right

6:39

and probably only place to charge the case. And

6:42

as we see now we're going through this jury

6:44

selection process which is meant to weed out people

6:46

who are on do be bought by the way

6:48

it is remarkable. That. More than

6:50

half the people. Said. Right off

6:52

the bat, knowing one paragraph. Of information about

6:55

this case I cannot. Be biased and walk out

6:57

the door. That's gotta be a World Records and I

6:59

think it speaks to just how polarizing Donald Trump is.

7:01

So that's the sort of or how scared people are

7:03

scared people are regular bearing on a jury they may

7:05

not what want no part of the so that's the

7:08

sort of technical legal as well as qualify legally as

7:10

a fair trial perjury. Yes, in all

7:12

likelihood. But let's also be real that

7:14

what we're talking about here: Manhattanites overwhelming.

7:16

We dislike Donald Trump politically and personally,

7:19

when he got twelve percent of the

7:21

vote. In Twenty Twenty and less

7:23

than that in Twenty Sixteen. And just

7:25

think that the converse there is a

7:27

county in Oklahoma Woods County. Where. The

7:29

vote count was basically with Trump that eighty

7:31

five percent or so of the vote there.

7:34

So we think that the outcome might be

7:36

substantially different if he were try and Woods

7:38

County of Loma, then in York County in

7:41

Manhattan. So. Let's be real. It's a

7:43

very tough jury pool for down the proper

7:45

Sometimes that's how it goes. Carry the judge

7:47

Judge Marshawn said in a written order quote

7:49

the purpose of jury selection is not determine.

7:51

Whether. A prospective juror does or

7:53

does not like. One. Of

7:55

the parties unquote. So this morning

7:57

as the jury consultant. An

8:00

attorney about this take a listen to his response.

8:04

Most stores comments a jury selection they don't

8:06

know the depended on trial. This is completely

8:08

different. Everybody knows him, everybody has a view

8:10

of him. and I think under New York

8:12

los that that has to be taken into

8:14

account. What do you think? On

8:17

one hand, on that's crack. On the

8:19

other hand, there are trials that take

8:21

place in United States of famous people.

8:23

There's actors and television personalities and people

8:26

who have been in the interest entertainment

8:28

industry and it's a former politicians. I

8:30

mean we do have people who are

8:32

well known who go through the criminal

8:34

justice served as system so I don't

8:37

think it's. A totally out

8:39

of bounds that a person who

8:41

is well known former President Trump

8:43

is obviously a unique person because

8:45

he's. A former presidents and

8:47

so that puts it sort of and

8:50

a whole nother category. Would. You feel

8:52

what the problem for Donald Trump is just mathematically.

8:54

There's going to be a huge number of jurors

8:56

here who say. I'm. Inclined against him

8:58

but I can be for yes I can be fair

9:00

you are and let me try some. When a judge's

9:03

looking at you and says don't you think you can

9:05

put aside your personal beliefs, your political beliefs and follow

9:07

my instructions.were in the robe and rule on this case.

9:09

fairly ninety percent of people going to Just Just Like

9:12

I Can Do that really had an example today. The

9:14

bill bread and gave you about his experience in the

9:16

Trump Or and trial and a problem for Trump's team

9:18

as are people telling the truth when they said that

9:20

can they will I tend to side with are not

9:23

us to bit with the jury Consult My think humans

9:25

are humans and as much as we like to think

9:27

of ourselves. As unbiased, it's really, really hard when

9:29

you get down to especially case like this where

9:31

it's not necessarily cut and dry, where there is

9:34

room for interpretation or and so I think Trump's

9:36

to be real at a substantial disadvantages. Let's talk

9:38

about the gag order or because Judge Marshawn has

9:40

instructed Donald Trump that he he can say what

9:43

he wants, but the case You can say what

9:45

he wants about the judge. You can see what

9:47

he wants with the prosecutor. But. He

9:49

chance he needs to stop talking about

9:51

the witnesses. He needs to stop talking

9:53

with the family of of the judge

9:55

or or or the just returning or

9:58

or others. Are and Is. The

10:00

actually like a debate You hear of

10:02

Trump Attorney saying every time I've interviewed

10:04

one. I'll ask him about, you know,

10:06

Michael Collins Credibility? whatever. And they say I have

10:09

to be careful about what I can say because

10:11

there's is unprecedented gag order. I get the idea

10:13

that you don't want Donald Trump. Intimidating.

10:16

Are threatening witnesses but it by the

10:18

same time. Is it not a.

10:21

Questionable. To. Say that Donald

10:23

Trump can't say anything publicly. About

10:25

people who are like Michael Cohen, Er,

10:27

Stormy Daniels, or whoever are are attacking

10:29

a public. I think this is

10:31

gonna be one of the most

10:33

difficult and issues for the dad's

10:35

to navigate in this case. And

10:37

and that's because he does have

10:39

First Amendment rights, former President Trump

10:41

and has First Amendment rights. To

10:43

be able to speak about this

10:45

publicly. I'm he's also a candidate's

10:47

It also was taking place in

10:49

this new S environment in the

10:51

United States of threats against people

10:53

who are part of the criminal

10:55

justice system court personnel judges are

10:57

families, etc. Stuff we're I'm ushered in we

10:59

should know in the. N n he

11:01

he has fomented.environments on at the

11:04

same time. it's gonna be really

11:06

difficult for the judge to enforce.

11:08

New. Consequences Because if you're talking

11:10

about monetary find will find that are

11:12

in the thousands of dollars that might

11:14

mean something to a regular. For sense

11:16

are gonna be pennies to him, they

11:19

are going to have absolutely zero diner.

11:21

In a fact, if you see a

11:23

few thousand dollars for tweet or something

11:25

that's not going to anything or sense

11:27

it's like chains. Yeah so. I'm

11:29

so I think it will be very

11:31

difficult and then the idea of potentially

11:33

holding him and contempt or I'd get

11:35

a holding him in custody is seems.

11:38

Pretty out of bounds of what a judge

11:40

would be like to do so in terms

11:42

of controlling Donald Trump or quickly she could

11:44

alley. There's this thing called the Parker Warnings

11:46

which is about basically behave yourself and court

11:48

race or Trump responded yes three times as

11:50

he was read these Parker warnings acknowledging he

11:52

could get that a coke he could get

11:55

kicked out of court of is an outburst

11:57

I'm could you see any scenario where this

11:59

judge. Kicked out, rub out of his

12:01

own trial or send him to jail if he

12:03

supposed to set show up and he doesn't. I

12:05

don't see the judge sending Donald Trump a job

12:07

during this trial. I just think that's to precipitous.

12:09

Been on the first question could kick him out

12:11

of course. Absolutely it's Donald Trump does the exact

12:14

same thing this case that he didn't. the eg.

12:16

Carol case with the outbursts. He would get kicked

12:18

out of work for that portion of the day,

12:20

so that could well have. A Right

12:22

To Record Aaron. Are we going to

12:24

think so much? From the jury to

12:26

potential testimony? Hope Hicks. Is. On

12:28

the witness list. What the former White

12:30

House aide has said in prior interviews

12:33

that could come into play in this

12:35

hush money cover of case plus the

12:37

challenge where authorities after protesters shutdown parts

12:39

of two major Us cities, they with

12:41

us. And

12:44

we're back with our Lawn Justice League. We

12:46

know of a few key witnesses expected to

12:49

be called to testify in Trump's hush money

12:51

cover of trial. One of them who has

12:53

not gotten as much attention as others is

12:55

Hope Hicks. Trump's. Former Press Secretary during

12:57

his two thousand and Sixteen campaign. He also worked

12:59

in his White House in his team again Golf

13:02

as with me. Now to talk about what she

13:04

might be able. To. Say we know

13:06

from Michael Collins two thousand and Nineteen

13:08

Trial right? or that Hope Hicks at

13:11

least according to him and according to

13:13

her testimony or was involved in some

13:15

critical phone calls or in two thousand

13:18

and sixteen October right before the election

13:20

after the Access Hollywood tape. Prompt and

13:22

around the time the Stormy Daniels saga

13:25

was playing out, she testified before the

13:27

House Judiciary Committee two thousand and Eighteen.

13:29

Those phone calls were about. The

13:31

Access Hollywood Tape. But. The timing

13:34

is. Interesting, What might we

13:36

hear from her when she testified?

13:38

So. Again, let's just repeat. For

13:41

the record she says she did

13:43

not know anything about Stormy Daniels

13:45

in kill November and she's sticking

13:48

with that story that said to

13:50

your point October with him bad

13:53

month for the Trump campaign's first

13:55

Access Hollywood then all of these

13:57

some cause. We. don't know

14:00

what's in those phone

14:02

calls. But we

14:04

are hearing that there are text

14:07

messages, emails, other evidence. So

14:09

I think we have to wait to

14:11

see what she testifies, but it does

14:13

raise the question, what did

14:16

she know and when did she know?

14:18

Yeah, and the judge wouldn't, presumably wouldn't

14:20

let her testify if she didn't have information

14:23

germane to this issue, not the

14:25

access Hollywood issue per se, but

14:27

this issue having to do with

14:29

Stormy Daniels, should Donald Trump theoretically

14:32

be nervous about Hope Hicks testifying she

14:34

was with him for all of this

14:36

journey, very close to him, very loyal

14:38

to him. I think you

14:40

just said two words, very

14:42

close to him. Yeah, she

14:45

is the inner circle of the inner

14:47

circle. She was a confidant. She was

14:49

in the room a lot. She was

14:51

on phone calls a lot. So if,

14:53

and let's stress if those

14:56

calls were about Stormy Daniels, she

14:58

may know something. She may. It's

15:01

a big question mark as of right now. Let's

15:03

turn to another key witness, Michael Cohen, who as

15:05

we will hear from the defense

15:07

team over and over and over, he

15:09

pleaded guilty to purge recharges in

15:12

2019. Now he might be one of the

15:14

key witnesses for the prosecution in

15:16

this trial. We had Lanny Davis,

15:18

his former attorney on earlier today and Lanny

15:20

said something along the lines of he only

15:22

committed perjury because he had been told to

15:25

do so by Donald Trump. He was lying

15:27

then basically saying he was lying then when

15:29

he worked for Trump, he's telling the truth

15:31

now, but that's going to be a big

15:33

hurdle for the prosecution to convince the jury,

15:36

Hey, listen to Michael Cohen now, even if

15:38

he was convicted of lying before. So

15:40

there's no question Donald Trump's lawyers are

15:42

going to play this to the hilt.

15:45

That said, the other thing, Lanny

15:47

Davis made a point of telling

15:49

us this morning, but he didn't

15:51

say what was in it is

15:53

there are emails, there are text

15:55

messages, there's other information. In other

15:57

words, they're not going to just

15:59

be. relying on Michael Cohen

16:02

as a witness. One

16:04

other thing, what does Michael Cohen have

16:06

to gain at this point? He's

16:09

already served his time. He's not getting anything

16:11

out of it. Interesting. Jamie

16:13

Gangel, thank you so much. We're also following

16:16

the major pending decision right now for Israel's

16:18

war cabinet and the prime minister. Israel

16:20

has vowed to directly respond to Iran's

16:23

unprecedented attack on Israel over the weekend.

16:25

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16:27

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to our world lead now, right now Israel's

18:04

government is weighing a monumental

18:07

decision, how and when to

18:10

respond to Iran after this

18:12

weekend's missile and attack from

18:14

Barrage, the first ever direct

18:16

attack by Iran on Israel.

18:19

CNN's Clarissa Ward is in Tel Aviv

18:22

for us, and Clarissa, the U.S. is

18:24

urging restraint. Will Netanyahu

18:26

and the War Cabinet listen? Well,

18:32

I think at this stage, Jake, what we

18:34

do know is that Israel's leadership has been

18:36

very clear that there will be some kind

18:38

of response, and it seems that there will

18:40

be a military component to that response. However,

18:43

it does seem that they are also taking

18:46

on board some of the concerns

18:48

that have been raised by Israel's backers

18:50

in the West. We heard Secretary of

18:53

State Antony Blinken, again, urging restraint in

18:55

sort of a subtle

18:57

way, saying strength and wisdom need

18:59

to be different sides of the

19:01

same point. Of course, Israel is

19:04

also dealing with other pressures, not

19:06

just external pressures, Jake, but internal

19:08

pressures, pressures from right-wing

19:10

elements of Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition, who

19:12

have said this needs to be

19:14

forceful, we need to give Iran

19:16

a bloody nose, we need to

19:18

reinstate deterrent. So there's a

19:20

lot of different competing factors here. I think

19:22

at the end of the day, you're looking

19:24

at a choice of probably three options. Probably

19:27

it could be a direct tit-for-tat

19:29

attack on a military installation on

19:32

Iran. It could be an asymmetric attack

19:34

on one of Iran's numerous proxies in

19:36

the region. It could be some kind

19:38

of a cyberattack. I think you would

19:40

also expect to see some kind of

19:42

a diplomatic effort trying to

19:44

build a coalition, trying to forcefully

19:46

isolate Iran further. But at this stage,

19:49

we simply don't know yet exactly what

19:51

the scale and the scope of this

19:53

will be, what it will look like,

19:55

and when crucially it will

19:57

happen, Jake. while

20:00

israel's war cabinet is waiting weighing

20:02

its options regards to

20:04

iran the raw file

20:06

ground invasion in gaza has been

20:08

delayed that's

20:13

what we're hearing i mean this operation

20:15

has been delayed for quite some time

20:17

for a number of reasons it's no

20:19

secret that israel has been facing a

20:21

huge amount of pressure on this and

20:23

a huge amount of criticism there have

20:26

been real concern voice about

20:28

the more than one million civilians who are

20:30

living now in rafa who are camped out

20:32

there where would they be moved to how

20:35

could they be protected then you

20:37

have the desperate humanitarian situation the fact

20:39

that famine is stalking northern gaza and

20:42

so there's been a massive amount

20:44

of pressure and criticism leveled at israel

20:47

and i think there's a sense from some of

20:49

israel's allies that like this

20:51

moment this attack from iran has allowed

20:53

you to reframe the narrative to reframe

20:55

the conversation it's giving you a little

20:57

bit of good will on the international

20:59

stage and so i do think there's

21:01

pressure for israel to sort of take

21:03

advantage of that but again we come

21:06

back to the spring of competing pressures

21:08

because within israel there is also a

21:10

lot of pressure to show results from

21:12

this war to show results in

21:14

terms of hostages being released those

21:16

talks have essentially collapsed so uh...

21:19

not exactly a surprise that israel would

21:21

use this moment to sort of deflect

21:23

away from that by focusing on iran

21:25

and then the broader issue will certainly

21:27

return very quickly of what is to

21:30

be done about the

21:32

situation in at rafan of course

21:34

the disaster situation inside gaza jake

21:36

are a course of war until the before thanks

21:39

so much of the right to retire you as

21:41

i was in the john spencer chair of urban

21:43

warfare studies at the modern war institute uh... general

21:45

thanks so much for joining us even following this

21:47

minute by minute former u.s. ambassador

21:50

to the united nations john bolton

21:52

told me yesterday that he saw

21:54

several options for israel uh...

21:56

in terms of responding to iran

21:58

that might deter Iran from

22:00

further attacks, take a

22:02

listen to former Ambassador Bolton. To

22:06

start by flattening Iran's air

22:09

defense capabilities, next

22:11

you might go after headquarters of

22:13

the regular military and the Revolutionary

22:15

Guard. You could consider going after

22:17

their oil infrastructure, the

22:19

oil fields, the distribution pipelines, the

22:22

export port facilities. And

22:25

most importantly, I think Israel should

22:27

be looking at this as an

22:29

opportunity to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons

22:31

program, which is the existential threat

22:33

that Israel faces. Is

22:36

that realistic? Are those decent

22:39

ideas for how Israel

22:42

could retaliate, in your view? Hey,

22:46

Jake, thanks for having me. And just

22:48

to clarify, it's major in general yet.

22:51

Sorry. That's okay. In our

22:53

view, in our mind, you're a general. Thank

22:58

you. All those

23:00

things are, of course, possibilities. I

23:02

don't think, and one, you

23:05

have to recognize the historic attack that

23:07

was done with the drones, the missiles, onto

23:10

Israel, and that it has to

23:12

be a comprehensive re-establishment of deterrence. So

23:14

it's not just tip for tat. Although

23:18

Iran clearly escalated this mini-rungs

23:21

of the basically escalation

23:23

ladder in comparison with everybody thinks

23:25

the reason that it happened. It

23:28

has to be a comprehensive. I'm not saying any of

23:30

those things aren't, but that's Israel's decision. The

23:34

Institute for the Study of War notes that

23:36

Iran's approach was modeled after the way Russia

23:38

strikes Ukraine, and quote, Ukrainian air

23:40

defenses have averaged interception rates of

23:42

only about 16% of

23:45

Russian ballistic missiles during recent large strikes.

23:47

The Iranians likely expected that Israeli

23:50

rights would be higher than the Ukrainian

23:52

rates, but not above 90%, unquote. Are

23:55

you surprised that the Iranians, at least

23:57

according to this analysis, seem to have

23:59

undrained underestimated Israel and

24:01

Israel's allies so

24:03

significantly? No,

24:07

I'm not surprised at all. This is a

24:09

sign of Iranian

24:12

power and the lack thereof.

24:14

But I also don't want to discount just because it's 99 percent,

24:17

and I'm proud of the United States

24:19

for assisting Jordan and others since

24:22

the Iran did violate many countries' airspace.

24:25

But it was their intentions of what they were trying

24:27

to do, yes, in modeling a multi-wave attack

24:30

and people somehow trying to make that seem

24:32

like it. They didn't mean to call us

24:34

harm. Even this morning, the White House said,

24:36

no, no, they wanted to do a lot

24:38

of destruction and cause a lot of casualties.

24:41

Just because they weren't successful doesn't mean they didn't intend to.

24:44

I also want your take on this

24:46

delay for the Rafa ground offense of

24:48

Israel is weighing the response to Iran's

24:50

attack. But obviously, they still have their

24:52

goals of getting back their hostages from

24:56

Gaza and defeating Hamas to the extent

24:58

they can. Others are telling

25:00

CNN that the Israeli Air Force planned on dropping

25:02

leaflets in the densely populated

25:04

city as soon as

25:06

today. Do you think a delay is

25:08

the right move? I

25:12

mean, I'm sure there are many factors

25:14

to include everybody discounting the fact that

25:16

Hezbollah attacks daily in the north

25:18

of Israel, and that does take resources, and

25:21

there are over 100,000 Israeli citizens who can't

25:23

go home. I

25:25

think Israel will conduct the Rafa

25:27

operation when they feel that

25:29

time is right and they're able to

25:31

successfully move civilians out of harm's way,

25:33

but also deal with things as nations

25:36

attacking them. So I

25:38

don't know if they're delayed or not, or whether

25:40

that's a good decision, but I do believe strongly

25:42

that the job has to be finished, Hamas

25:45

has to be destroyed, and the hostages have to be

25:47

brought home. But the way it's done doesn't

25:49

matter. All right, Major John

25:51

Spencer, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank

25:53

you. And

26:00

that was not the only city where demonstrators popped

26:02

up. That story's next. And

26:05

we're back with breaking news, day one of

26:07

Donald Trump's criminal hush money cover-up trial in

26:09

New York City is in the books. We

26:11

are waiting for the former president to walk

26:13

out. Court has just adjourned for

26:16

the day after beginning jury selection. More

26:18

than 50 jurors have already been dismissed.

26:20

They told the court that they could

26:22

not be impartial. Court

26:24

will resume at 9.30 Eastern

26:27

tomorrow morning. While

26:29

we're waiting for Mr. Trump to walk out in

26:31

our law and justice lead, the armorer on

26:33

the set of the film Rust was

26:36

today sentenced to 18 months in

26:38

prison. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was found guilty

26:40

last month of involuntary manslaughter for

26:42

the 2021 onset shooting

26:44

death of Helena Hutchins,

26:47

the cinematographer for the film. Hutchins

26:50

was killed by a live round

26:52

fired from a prop gun

26:54

held at that moment by actor and

26:57

producer Alec Baldwin. Baldwin has also been

26:59

charged with involuntary manslaughter. He is due

27:01

to go to trial in July. Turning

27:04

to our national lead in San Francisco arrests have

27:06

been made today after

27:08

dozens of protesters blocked traffic on

27:10

the busy Golden Gate Bridge. CNN's

27:13

Veronica Miracles tracking this story for us. Veronica,

27:17

were these pro-Palestinian protesters? Who

27:19

were they? That's

27:22

right, Jake. They're protesting what's happening in Gaza.

27:25

One of five major cities impacted across

27:27

the U.S. So this protest here appeared

27:29

to have the most significant impact on

27:32

traffic. It started at 8 a.m. It

27:34

didn't wrap up until about 1230. Twenty-eight

27:37

people were arrested here on the Golden

27:39

Gate Bridge, including six who had changed

27:42

themselves to each other and had stopped

27:44

in front of a block of cars

27:46

that were also part of that protest.

27:48

They were holding signs that said, stop

27:50

the world for Gaza. But. This

27:53

wasn't the only impact here in the Bay

27:55

Area. It also continues to be an impact

27:57

over on the I-880 in Oakland. The

28:00

hop online of clothes and protesters

28:02

there are Boston Herald onto the

28:05

roadway and same themselves to those

28:07

were the organizers. Say they are

28:09

part of a was like collective

28:11

that wants to have solidarity with

28:13

Palestine. They also are fighting for

28:16

Us taxpayer dollars to not go

28:18

to Israel. And

28:20

this was an again like I

28:22

said not the only area impacted

28:24

them are also traffic and protests

28:26

in Chicago. Has Chicago O'hare International

28:28

Airport for an access. Road, wood

28:31

blocks and for protester or if

28:33

you think travelers rather fifteen having

28:35

to walk their luggage into the

28:38

airport in also featured in Miami

28:40

and New York Shakes. Or I'd

28:42

running a miracle in San Francisco for as thank

28:44

you so much quarters. just the dirt. In

28:46

the first day of the New York has been to

28:48

cover up case down from might be stuck in a

28:50

courtroom for the next two months. Critical. Time for

28:53

is probably twenty four campaign of at my place

28:55

for him Politically will take a look at dentist.

29:02

Or we're going to bring a Donald Trump speaking they

29:04

know after his hers who fail. To

29:08

do a remember. Person

29:11

whose work. With

29:20

you for for years Resolution.

29:25

Version allows a. Fair

29:28

Trial. On.

29:39

Samsung. Is.

29:57

Suffering. And

30:01

then you have to force

30:03

is nicer to allow us

30:06

to success and is not

30:08

allow us to that to

30:10

be here for a good

30:12

to see so many states

30:15

supreme court because he thinks

30:17

he severe disease was a.

30:22

Lot of things had his. First

30:55

match. Or

31:10

I Donald Trump or speaking

31:12

after his first day of

31:14

trial as the New York

31:17

Turn a General. Begins. The

31:19

prosecution in the has want to cover up

31:21

case. Let's go back to seen as Paul

31:23

reaches outside the courthouse in New York and

31:25

Paula. Where

31:28

is the line there with Mister

31:30

Trump? possibly violating his gag order

31:32

with comments a sailing the the

31:34

prosecution did he stay on the

31:36

correct side of it because he

31:38

went after the attorney General, he

31:40

went after the i'm I'm sorry

31:42

the district attorney and he went

31:44

after the a judge but he

31:46

didn't go after the people. I

31:48

think he had been banned from

31:50

criticizing her publicly. Zara. Z

31:54

added in that hallway are not gray

31:57

that he is allowed to discuss attorney

31:59

the album rag organ the judge overseeing

32:01

the case of he does appear to

32:04

stayed within the bounds of has expanded

32:06

gag order for take. He's clearly expressing

32:08

his frustration with the fact that he

32:10

is a criminal defendants and required to

32:13

be in court during three selection and

32:15

throughout these proceedings of the tail end

32:17

of today's proceedings his The Tories asked

32:19

the judge about whether he might be

32:22

able to get a waiver. I specifically

32:24

they mention the supreme court arguments and

32:26

next week on Thursday or we're the

32:29

question of presidential immunity. Will go

32:31

before the justices and they asked if he

32:33

would be able to attend that argument and

32:35

as I said look you don't have any

32:37

right or requirements. To. Attend a Supreme

32:40

Court argument says the front former president

32:42

expressing frustration about that. He also said

32:44

repeatedly that he would not be able

32:46

to attend his son's graduation Now there

32:48

are no cameras inside the court we're

32:50

relying on. These are great updates that

32:52

we are getting from our colleagues inside

32:54

the courtroom, but there was no mention

32:56

in the lot of these are getting

32:58

about any discussion of his graduation, but

33:00

a judge said infer that he would

33:02

not be too liberal when it came

33:04

to granting him waivers from having to

33:06

attend court day, in and out. Or

33:09

eyeball read think some what's what's good or

33:11

of science check and what we heard from

33:13

Donald Trump or just then are here soon

33:15

and Tom form and Tom would jump out

33:17

of you were or jumps out of that.

33:19

He keeps going back again and again me

33:21

into this idea that somehow all these legal

33:23

scholars agree that this is not a good

33:25

case. It is fair to say there are

33:27

plenty of concern legal scholars. Who

33:29

are taking from side and this there

33:31

are some or the progressive liberal side

33:34

but far from all of a many

33:36

many other legal scholars and know the

33:38

zoo. Serious charge It is a serious

33:40

case and as much as he tries

33:42

to say is all about politics and

33:45

yourself and brag is a demographics this

33:47

case been building for a long time.

33:49

The original evidence is actually being collected

33:51

long long ago. and the notion

33:54

that somehow tied as he often does the

33:56

by the administration just no evidence at all

33:58

does who was his look like is

34:00

a serious legal case moving forward

34:02

that could have big political ramifications

34:05

but that doesn't necessarily make it

34:07

a political case and all

34:09

the legal scholars don't agree on that. All

34:11

right Tom Foreman thanks so much some of the characters

34:14

outside the courtroom today. Get at

34:16

the political divide Trump's trials create. We saw

34:18

supporters all in for Trump with big

34:20

Trump flags and MAGA hats. On

34:23

the other side the signs read election

34:25

interference is a crime and convict Trump

34:27

already. One group went through

34:29

the effort to make a large parade style

34:31

banner reading. No one is above

34:33

the law. Let's bring in

34:36

the panel and Naira let me start with you. I

34:39

want to get you, answer Michael to weigh in on this.

34:41

This idea that Donald what

34:43

Donald Trump did was election interference. That's

34:45

what district attorney Alvin Bragg says. He

34:47

says that because the the

34:50

hush money payments allegedly were paid

34:52

to keep that information

34:54

from voters in October 2016.

34:59

How credible do you find that the idea

35:01

that that's election interference. I think there's

35:03

a fascinating play here that the legal

35:05

side is making the prosecution is making

35:08

and they're leaning into the public conversation

35:10

in a way that typically you won't

35:12

see prosecutors do because it is

35:14

part of the the idea that Trump has 88

35:16

charges against him. The

35:19

the allegations are all out there. Trials

35:21

are happening in different venues at different

35:23

times and connecting these dots in this

35:25

way is a messaging device. It's trying

35:27

to get people to understand how Trump

35:29

has been consistent in his corruption in

35:31

different places throughout his career. But

35:34

people are not looking at hush money as

35:36

election interference. It does not seem or feel

35:39

like the same thing as trying to call

35:41

a secretary of state and turn votes over

35:44

change how they go. This this is this

35:46

is going to be a challenge I think

35:48

for the DA that he's tried to connect

35:50

in a messaging way what really should be

35:52

a strict legal pursuit. And when I

35:54

hear election interference I think of what Nair

35:56

just said of the idea of telling

35:59

a secretary of state. state to not count votes

36:01

or to count extra votes or even more

36:03

nefariously some foreign actor trying to change voting

36:05

machines. I don't necessarily think and this is

36:07

not meant as a criticism of district attorney

36:09

bragg but I don't think of election interference

36:11

in the way that he is trying to

36:13

make this case seem. What do you think?

36:15

I mean Jake I don't think you're alone.

36:17

I think most Americans will probably agree and

36:19

if you look at the polling day that

36:21

just came out on this particular case out

36:23

of the four it's the least where most

36:25

people are really worried about whether or not

36:27

they would or wouldn't vote for the former

36:29

president. When you continue to hear Trump

36:32

articulate this message that this is election

36:34

interference or attempting to stop me from

36:36

defeating President Biden there there

36:38

is some credibility to that in the

36:40

minds of many Republicans. You look at

36:43

Manhattan almost 80 percent of the residents

36:45

there voted for President Biden over Trump.

36:47

You look at the fact that Alvin Bragg

36:50

made very presumptive statements about Trump's guilt when

36:52

he was running for office. That's very questionable.

36:54

Then you had the Newsweek article that came

36:56

out earlier this morning that said he raised

36:59

almost 900,000 dollars since

37:01

inviting Trump and from a political perspective district

37:03

attorney bragg. You look at these instances and

37:05

you say well wait a minute here there

37:07

is a political angle to this when there

37:10

honestly shouldn't be. Yeah and let

37:12

me go to you Ayesha. A new poll

37:14

asks registered voters about Trump's criminal cases and

37:16

if they see the charges as very serious.

37:18

The federal January 6 case ranked

37:20

first with 58 percent as Richard Michael was

37:23

just talking about this compared to 54 percent

37:25

for the Georgia election subversion case. Then

37:28

the classified documents case has

37:30

50 percent. The New York hush

37:32

money cover-up case ranked last only 36 percent

37:35

viewed the charges as

37:38

serious. What do you make of it all? Well I

37:40

think that we got to step back a little

37:42

bit because you know you're looking at a

37:45

former president who is now running

37:47

for president again who is facing

37:49

multiple charges in multiple jurisdictions.

37:51

So we have to like put some gravity

37:53

on that and I think when you ask

37:56

people they may say look the hush money

37:58

thing doesn't seem as serious. as

38:00

interfering with the election and calling

38:02

Georgia officials and trying to get

38:04

them to change votes. But

38:06

this is still someone who's running for president

38:09

and it seems pretty serious that he could be

38:11

convicted by a jury of his peers. That

38:14

seems to be a big deal. And so I think that it

38:16

all goes together. Even if people don't

38:18

look at this individual case and think that

38:20

it's the biggest deal, I think when you

38:23

look at it all together, those people, not

38:25

his base, but those people who are kind

38:27

of, you know, iffy on Trump, this reminds

38:29

them of why they have issues with him.

38:32

This reminds them of the circus

38:34

that comes with him and the

38:36

very, like being charged with criminal

38:38

felonies, that's serious for anybody.

38:41

I mean, much less someone running for president. I

38:43

think the poll numbers have it about right.

38:46

I mean, it's not about overturning an election.

38:49

It's about falsifying business documents.

38:52

That's what this case really comes down to. And when

38:54

you call it a hush money case, you know, you

38:56

get into the whole notion of, you know, an affair

38:58

with a porn star and all that. And people are

39:01

like dismissive of that because

39:03

that cake has been baked already when it

39:05

comes to Donald Trump. The

39:07

other charges, and I think rightly

39:09

so, are more national security

39:11

charges and they're about overturning an

39:13

election. So I think the

39:16

poll numbers are right.

39:18

This doesn't mean that this case

39:20

is not serious. Fulsifying business

39:22

documents are serious. And when you go

39:24

back and look at the context of

39:26

all of this, this happened right after

39:29

the Access Hollywood tape. The campaign was

39:31

in a panic. They were

39:33

worried about losing women voters. And

39:35

if this Stormy Daniels case had come out,

39:37

they thought, or the Karen McDougall affair had

39:39

come out, they thought it could have cost

39:42

them the election. So they have

39:44

to tell a story here and

39:46

make it important and make it about a man

39:49

who was afraid of losing the presidency.

39:51

Here's Donald Trump today as day

39:54

one of his trial got underway. Take a listen.

40:00

persecution like never before nobody's

40:02

ever seen anything like it.

40:04

It's an assault on America

40:07

and that's why I'm very proud to be

40:09

here. This is an assault on our country.

40:11

So this trial could go six to eight

40:13

weeks that keeps Trump tied up in a

40:15

courtroom almost every day until

40:17

possibly early June. Now yes

40:19

he could campaign in the evenings and

40:21

on the weekend but doesn't

40:23

even need to go campaign given the fact that

40:26

this is going to be really

40:28

focused on in the news media for

40:30

understandable reasons. It's unprecedented. Well listen and

40:32

he gets to make have his say in front

40:35

of millions of people without actually having to spend

40:37

the money on a campaign rally. So he is

40:39

going to take every opportunity to get in front

40:41

of cameras and take that to lean into what

40:43

he wants to say but this isn't about persuasion

40:46

for Donald Trump. This is about repeating the same

40:48

thing over and over that he is politically persecuted

40:50

and reminding his voters that

40:52

there is a system that they can

40:54

blame. Ironically Trump started his campaign in

40:56

Manhattan. This is where he is now

40:58

being charged. This is the city where

41:01

he wanted to be a golden titan

41:03

and now Alvin Brabie is taking him

41:05

down specifically on the fact that his

41:07

business has not held up to public

41:09

scrutiny. Can we just be honest that

41:11

Donald Trump never really liked being out

41:13

on the campaign trail and handshaking people.

41:15

Oh he loves the rallies though. He loves the

41:17

rallies. He loves the rallies but a they're

41:19

very expensive and they can't afford them now

41:21

but he's not you know he's not somebody

41:23

who's going to go out and mix it

41:25

up in the crowd. He didn't do a

41:28

lot of town halls at all where he

41:30

mixed it up with voters. You know he

41:32

likes to jet in and jet out and

41:34

that's what he'll be able to continue to

41:36

do at least you know once or twice

41:38

a week. So whether it will impact that

41:40

that much I really don't I really don't

41:43

think so. So the White House says President

41:45

Biden and his campaign are going to stay quiet.

41:47

They're not going to weigh in on this unprecedented

41:49

day for Trump. What do you

41:51

think of that? Is that smart strategy? Are they missing

41:53

an opportunity to like point out the fact like Donald

41:56

Trump is you know being tried in a criminal

41:58

court. Well they don't need to. That there's

42:00

going to be a lot of coverage or that

42:02

they know that he's gonna get out there. and

42:04

for the people that they are trying to convince

42:06

this is not and look good for Donald Trump,

42:09

I think they feel like and they feel like

42:11

they can. What they can do is have Biden

42:13

look very presidential. He's out there working for the

42:15

people doing stuff with the economy and all of

42:17

this and Donald Trump. Says in court for criminal charges

42:19

so I think they're gonna try to play of that's.

42:21

Split. Screen wherever they can. Okay, we'll see

42:24

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42:26

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42:28

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42:30

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42:32

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42:35

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43:53

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43:55

weighing his next move in the wake

43:57

of the weekend attack from Iran. Will

44:00

Speak or Johnson isolate support for Israel,

44:02

the foreign aid package without attacking new

44:04

aid for Ukraine. That's what hardline conservatives

44:06

want him to do. What Wilmington plus

44:08

hours away from what could be one

44:10

of the biggest moments for professional women's

44:12

basketball and superstar standout Caitlin Clark and

44:14

leading this our done with his motorcade

44:16

on the move. After a whirlwind of

44:18

developments as the first day of the

44:20

New York Hush Money cover up case

44:22

comes to a close. At least fifty

44:25

jurors interview today which is more than

44:27

half were already excuse they said they

44:29

could not be. Fair and impartial, The.

44:31

Judge ruled that the Access Hollywood tape

44:33

can not be played when her arguments

44:36

against he didn't allow future testimony from

44:38

Karen Mcdougall, a former Playboy model play

44:40

might Playboys Ninety Ninety, a playmate of

44:42

the month who says she had a

44:45

ten month affair with Down from which

44:47

he denies All this in the case

44:49

where prosecutors claim Mister Trump falsified business

44:51

records to cover up hush money payments

44:54

to adult film star and actors and

44:56

directors Stormy Daniels to keep it away

44:58

from voters. Right before the Twenty Sixteen

45:00

election, it's discuss. Now with p two

45:03

people who know key players in this

45:05

case. Stacey Snider is a Manhattan Criminal

45:07

Defense Attorney and a former contestant on

45:09

Trump's Tv show The Apprentice. She has

45:12

also work with Manhattan District Attorney Oven

45:14

Brags Office and appeared before Judge One

45:16

Marshawn. And Bob Barber Rez is

45:18

a former engineer for Trump Construction Projects

45:21

and author of the book Power of

45:23

Was What my eighteen years of working

45:25

with Donald Trump reveals about him. Or

45:27

Barbara. Let's start with you, what do

45:30

you think Donald Trump's mind set is

45:32

right now as he sits in court

45:34

for his very first criminal trial is

45:36

a former President. Yeah.

45:39

Can someone as the mayor parson. Yeah.

45:42

Barbara: Can you Not hear me? Or

45:45

hundred years you but.net seen isn't okay.

45:47

Let's go to Stacey Stacey you have

45:50

worked with both trump. And.

45:52

Judge Marshawn Trump has already recently

45:54

called the judge. Crooked.

45:56

How do you expect? this will all play out in

45:58

the coming weeks as those two. Sit in the

46:00

same courtroom. So. I

46:03

think Judge Marshawn and thank you

46:05

for having me Jake I Saying

46:07

that Judge Marshawn it has complete

46:09

control of his courtroom. He is

46:11

known to have control of his

46:13

courtroom and a very interesting thing

46:15

about him is that on the

46:17

Wednesday's when this case will not

46:19

be heard, that's the one day

46:21

they have a break. Judge Marshawn

46:23

actually runs the Mental Health Felony

46:25

part of Manhattan Courthouse says is

46:27

any judge that used to an

46:29

outburst in court Ah, who can

46:31

handle that? Perfectly. Would

46:33

that would be Judge Marshawn. So I

46:36

think Trump is going to control himself

46:38

a lot more than he did in

46:40

his civil trial in the other court

46:42

houses where he showed up in Manhattan.

46:45

What do you see see

46:48

see as Donald Trump's best

46:50

defenses and biggest weaknesses In

46:52

this specific case, Okay

46:54

well the da. There.

46:56

Isn't really engaging in a novel

46:58

prosecution here. They charged him with

47:01

the felony version of falsifying business

47:03

records as a misdemeanor. It's easy

47:05

to prove all you have to

47:07

do is put false information in

47:09

the records of a New York

47:11

enterprise. This case goes a step

47:13

further in that. The. Allegations

47:15

of the pay off to Stormy

47:17

Daniels with whom Trump is alleged

47:20

to have had this affair. The

47:22

adult film star the Da's office

47:24

is saying this is an additional

47:26

crime because those pay off and

47:29

the cover up of the pay

47:31

off in his business records were

47:33

used to influence both the state

47:35

and federal election. That's election interference.

47:38

So this is almost like a

47:40

dual crime prosecution within one charge.

47:42

So Trump's best defense I think

47:44

is saying. I.

47:47

Am an international celebrity. I

47:49

was before I became president

47:51

and. If. Another woman had

47:53

come forward or another person came forward looking

47:55

for money for me. It's

47:58

the cost of doing business. I would have. Hey,

48:00

this person to go away anyway.

48:02

So in order for the Da's

48:04

office to prove intent and this

48:06

is that's. The problem with

48:09

the Da's case is actually proving Trump's

48:11

intense. They have to. Show.

48:15

That Trump intended to interfere with

48:17

the election. They claim that they

48:19

have phone calls have conversations between

48:21

Michael Cohen, Trump's attorney who allegedly

48:23

made this pay offs or who

48:26

pled guilty actually not allegedly but

48:28

pled guilty to making the pay

48:30

off, the Stormy Daniels and Trump

48:32

planning this out. So both sides

48:34

have weaknesses and both sides have

48:36

strength. Do you think Stacey? It's

48:39

gonna be difficult for Donald Trump to

48:41

get an impartial. Jury in

48:43

Manhattan where voters are. Overwhelmingly.

48:46

Democratic capital D and voted for Joe

48:48

Biden. I.

48:50

Would use the word difficult that I would. Use.

48:53

The word painstaking and lengthy. I

48:55

think After today, this jury selection

48:57

process has already shown us with

49:00

half of the panel dismissed sterile

49:02

hundred jurors who get brought into

49:04

the courtroom at large and who

49:06

run through the juror a questionnaire

49:09

panel and they get picked out

49:11

sort of on for certain reasons.

49:13

Like they can serve, they're not

49:15

available to serve. they don't wanna

49:17

serve their biased. There

49:20

are going to be a lot of people

49:22

in Manhattan by nature of this is not

49:24

approach on city who are going to be.

49:26

Against Trump. Not in any case on

49:29

any issue that comes up in court.

49:31

Whether it's drug use they're are going

49:33

to be people with an opinion and

49:36

they will find a not yours to

49:38

serve they need twelve and six alternatives.

49:40

They will find enough people to. Com.

49:43

Support: listen to the evidence,

49:45

put any biases or feelings

49:47

they have a side and

49:49

give a fair. Verdict:

49:52

So it just takes time. Or

49:55

Barbara I'm told that are we have

49:57

our your audio and video Baca sorry

49:59

about that. Let me ask you,

50:01

Barber Trump is essentially being accused of

50:03

trying to cover up hush money payments

50:05

to silence an extramarital girlfriend about an

50:07

alleged. Affair. When.

50:10

You work with Trump? Did you ever see

50:12

any indication that he would be involved in

50:14

any sort of. Cover. Up

50:16

or paying somebody to be quiet.

50:21

Down to the sense that I'm.

50:23

Used to go out with marla maples

50:25

and always have zero there on the

50:28

that was sisters own personal thing. Now

50:30

is deal of the bomb us are

50:32

frankly I think that is covered with

50:34

somebody the south ah I would love

50:37

not have covered it up. You will

50:39

have to say I'm going out of

50:41

this point of stuff but intentionally he

50:43

knew that suffers heard him and that

50:46

was the reason for the payments In

50:48

this no other reason says and. Some

50:51

says something about his wife would be

50:53

applied for gas for around and a

50:55

bottle poor for it's Barbara. Other reporters

50:57

in the room say that that that

50:59

trump. I turned around and smirk

51:01

their potential jurors as he was introduced as

51:04

the defendant. Aren't you think that's part

51:06

of a and attempted to charm? Know my what

51:08

do you think that's about. I

51:11

think it's his way of showing

51:14

on how confident he is now

51:16

Chelsea his. Sister Sona

51:18

least tearing through. School

51:21

carry the suits as a trial. Or

51:23

I borrow resin. Stacey Snider Thanks and thanks

51:25

to both you to me now to discuss

51:27

Former Trump attorney has impressed me. He left

51:29

the Trump legal teams after the former President

51:31

was indicted in the classified documents case chimp.

51:33

Thanks So much sharper being here. So you

51:35

work for Donald Trump. What do you think

51:37

is he saying to lawyers right now after

51:39

this first they have trial the rulings obscene

51:41

to go someone his way somewhat the other

51:43

way. That. Look I think

51:45

the biggest conversation is about earlier about

51:48

the process of jury selection. Your it

51:50

is a challenge In today's world where

51:52

the jurors want in on my history

51:54

a lot of of wanna get on

51:56

a jury like this. They want to

51:58

have that opportunity to be us. The

52:00

Breed. you're at some point to go on

52:02

Tv and announced all the things that are

52:04

supposedly secret. By. Way of I deliberations

52:06

and and I think that makes a real

52:08

challenge for Trump's attorneys to try to ferret

52:10

out which ones are sleepers, which ones are

52:12

guiding their answers to the courts questions in

52:15

a way where they say, well, you know

52:17

I know, I. Voted. Democratic for

52:19

the last fifty two years. but I think

52:21

I could be fair. You know, if there's

52:23

it's a very easy task to kind of

52:25

shade. Your. Qualifying answers and away were

52:27

you my good sir. Selected early, she cut

52:30

into the number of strikes the President Trump's

52:32

team has to get rid of jurors without

52:34

cause. So I think that sounds is the

52:36

really Keep an eye on whether the judge

52:39

tries to rehabilitate jurors that might be unfair

52:41

to President Trump or whether he's very quick

52:43

to dismiss them. As long as they say

52:45

something about being biased and that's the ads,

52:48

it's not fun watching jury selection by their.

52:50

that's the challenge for the next few days

52:52

and to figure out what's the mode of

52:54

var of interrogation? What's the mode. Of. Disqualifications:

52:58

Taking place he appears to have been on

53:00

pretty good behavior or today tix keeping quiet

53:02

when he needed to keep quiet answering the

53:04

judge in fact I'm Maggie Haberman says she

53:06

was in this in the corpses as as

53:08

even appear to not off. At. One point

53:10

I would maybe are many of our viewers can find

53:12

reliable if you've ever been to court. But.

53:15

Do you think his attorneys are worried that

53:17

he will ultimately get in his own way

53:19

a by acting out in court as he

53:22

did for instance, during the Eating Carol case

53:24

that I don't think so amount have any

53:26

inside scoop there in terms of talking the

53:28

attorneys, but. The. Oh look, this is

53:30

a even a New York even if the

53:32

judge has some hostility to President Trump. Which.

53:35

The gag order would suggest he does. Yeah.

53:37

This is a tribal case. I mean

53:39

any litigator is is chomping at the

53:41

bit of the notion of cross examining Michael

53:43

Cohen. So I think the strategy? if

53:45

you're President Trump's lawyers, yeah, there's a

53:47

whole bunch illegal. Kind of a novelty,

53:49

which I would call frailty. To. This

53:51

case. But again of the day you want

53:53

to make it about Michael Cohen. None of

53:55

you can make it about a convicted perjure about

53:58

a failed cooperate Or and say folks. Would

54:00

you even by a car from this guy

54:02

much less base your verdict on this man's

54:04

word. That could be something that least gets

54:06

a hung jury which be a victory here.

54:09

So depressed or I'm let's talk about Michael

54:11

Cohen that zoc. what the hung jury strategy

54:13

term. We had a Lanny Davis here he

54:15

he used to be own Michael Collins Attorney.

54:18

And. His basic argument was in: this is

54:20

an attorney for Michael Cohen former. Ah,

54:22

That. Yes, Michael

54:24

Cohen perjure himself before Congress,

54:26

but he did so at

54:29

the direction of Donald Trump.

54:31

And. That's going be with Michael Cohen says

54:33

yes, I lied, but I did so because

54:35

Donald Trump told me too because I work

54:37

with him, but. Now that into the

54:40

truth is setting me free, that will

54:42

be easy you think for the defense

54:44

to poke holes and yeah, I think

54:46

that's kind of the fool Me once

54:48

for me, twice com at like you

54:50

know what? Which time are we supposed

54:52

to believe Mike one again at. He's

54:54

got a longer track record of saying

54:56

things, contradicting himself over time. When it

54:58

comes the President Trump So lucky guy

55:00

he's. He. Wasn't a great lawyer to to pick.

55:02

You can always go back and say well, you're the

55:04

one that picked them President Trump I get that. But.

55:07

He he's gonna collapse of his own weight

55:09

and a lot of ways. I mean he's

55:11

lied to Congress. He's a failed coup operator

55:13

southern District the New York. It's not shy

55:15

to take cases walked away not only from

55:17

this case but from him directly saying we're

55:20

not going to get many credit for cooperation.

55:22

His too slippery to dishonest. So again, that's

55:24

the focus you have to make it on

55:26

as a trial lawyer for President Trump is.

55:28

it's all about this guy's credibility. can't take

55:30

it to the bank and I am blaming

55:33

blaming the victim of his dishonesty probably won't

55:35

sell Chimp Trustee Thanks. So. Much. Appreciated will

55:37

have you back to talk for this case.

55:39

Continues: Donald Trump's motorcades as expected to pull

55:41

up at Trump Tower. Any moment Trump is

55:43

railing about the legal system being rigged against

55:45

him. Is the legal system actually kinder

55:47

to him however, than it might be to

55:50

the average American? We're gonna talk to somebody

55:52

who believes that That snacks. Here's

55:57

some video from this moment to go outside from.

56:00

Our were former President Trump just

56:02

arrived waving and are giving a

56:04

supporter of a fist to our

56:06

fans for months. Up until this

56:08

morning, former President From has been

56:10

lashing out at the judge and

56:12

prosecutors and potential witnesses in the

56:14

New York Criminal Trial. so the

56:16

judge put him under a gag

56:18

order banning him from making. Public.

56:20

Statements about many of the people connected

56:22

with the case and also from attacking

56:25

the judges family members as Trump has.

56:27

Mister. Trump is so out. The talk about

56:29

Manhattan District Attorney Oven brag and New

56:31

York Giants won marshawn which he did

56:33

over the weekend. Have

56:36

a. Highly

56:39

conflicts. it interrupts yards

56:41

You suffers from T

56:43

V S Trump Derangement

56:45

Syndrome. There's

56:48

no evidence that the judge. Has.

56:50

Any anti prompt feelings or biases

56:52

or Tds games ever, most are.

56:54

The legal editor for Politico joins

56:56

me now and James you're out with

56:59

a new story. I use a

57:01

quote how Donald Trump get special

57:03

treatment. In the legal system, that's what it's

57:05

Title than you right? in a Pro Trump as invest.

57:07

In a two tiered system of justice he

57:10

often says, and he's right, there are two

57:12

tears. But Trump frequently has

57:14

been the beneficiary. Not. The

57:16

victim unquote. so. Mister. Trump constantly

57:19

claims to be a victim of an unjust system.

57:21

You're right. it's quite the opposite. explain. Well,

57:24

I think there are many examples of

57:26

how Donald Trump and his odyssey through

57:29

the criminal justice system of the last

57:31

year is being treated differently and more

57:33

favorably than almost any other criminal defendant

57:35

standing in those same shoes. And there

57:37

are a number of examples of this,

57:39

and I think the. Principal.

57:42

Example is some the comments that

57:44

you just mentioned Jake the way

57:46

that Trump has relentlessly attacks almost

57:48

everyone involved in all these cases

57:50

his denigrate the prosecutors, the judges,

57:52

judges, family members witnesses against him

57:54

and he is under some gag

57:57

orders and is cases and he

57:59

certainly to. Grab the line of

58:01

a gag orders and sometimes violates those

58:03

gag orders. But even aside from the

58:05

gags in all of his criminal cases,

58:08

Trump is under strict pre trial conditions.

58:10

He has to abide by certain rules

58:12

and those rules. Preclude. Him

58:14

from doing things like attacking potential

58:16

witnesses against him, but he has

58:18

done that. He's just this weekend

58:20

he attacked Michael Cohen, this darwinism,

58:22

the prosecution's case in the New

58:24

York trials, and. What? I had

58:27

criminal defense attorneys tell me as if that

58:29

any of their clients were to make those

58:31

sorts of comments while they're on pluto. Release:

58:33

be thrown in jail pretty quickly. While.

58:36

What's the out to you today in terms

58:38

of the thesis or of your of your

58:40

article? in terms of. The Two

58:42

Tiered system. And and I agree with you,

58:44

by the way, there is a two tiered

58:46

system and it's. And. It's poor people

58:49

who can't afford good legal representation and

58:51

who often get you know, Of

58:53

shoehorned into into Prosecutions and we've

58:55

covered that a number of times

58:57

on on this on the show.

58:59

But but today did you see

59:01

any examples of this? The I

59:03

thought I was incredibly ironic that

59:05

much of the morning session today

59:07

of the first day of the

59:09

trial was about Trump's comments over

59:11

the weekend, and in fact the

59:13

prosecutors were asking a judge to

59:15

hold Trump in contempt for basically

59:17

violating those rules that I just

59:19

talked about over the last few

59:21

days and attacking Michael Cohen. And

59:24

then. We just an

59:26

hour after that whole discussion happened

59:28

in open court during the very

59:30

ones break in the trial sub

59:32

one on through Social and he

59:35

posted a video of one of

59:37

us allies attacking Michael Time and

59:39

attacking the judges wife after the

59:41

judge issued a gag order explicitly

59:43

for have been Trump from attacking

59:45

family members including family members of

59:48

the jobs and I think what

59:50

you hear from lawyers is that

59:52

if any other descendant worked relentlessly

59:54

attack the. Judges own family that

59:56

would not be stood for. There would

59:58

be no be. For that. The.

1:00:01

Pre trial good as it would be Votes: the person

1:00:03

would be thrown in jail finds. Banned. From

1:00:05

social media like Roger Stone was based on

1:00:07

social media when he was attacking his dad's

1:00:09

in his case is what happened today is

1:00:11

that the Trump set a hearing from a

1:00:14

week from from a week from now to

1:00:16

consider The prosecutors request a whole democrats and.

1:00:19

So adjust the lead of your stories. Really

1:00:21

interesting. A firebrand politician in Donald is about

1:00:23

the stand trial just a few days before

1:00:25

jury selection. He goes on Tv to slam

1:00:28

the charges as baseless and biases actually of

1:00:30

Be Ice and the Justice Department. but this

1:00:32

is not Donald Trump. It's. A man

1:00:34

in downhill, a former Dallas City council

1:00:36

member facing bribery charges. What's the difference

1:00:39

House and how those two words were

1:00:41

treated? Well

1:00:43

yes oh it's essentially I came

1:00:45

across it enters into my research

1:00:47

and sort of. I found this

1:00:49

analogy of sort of are relatively

1:00:51

high profile politician defend enormous for

1:00:53

of high profile in his own

1:00:55

community and when he was on

1:00:57

trial he made a series of

1:00:59

comments. you know I've claiming that

1:01:01

he was the victim of a

1:01:04

politically biased prosecution just as Trump

1:01:06

always does and five disguise comments

1:01:08

are quite tame compared to what

1:01:10

Trump or with become used to

1:01:12

from Donald. Trump and in

1:01:14

that case one single

1:01:17

comments claiming a politically

1:01:19

biased prosecution.that politician. Slapped

1:01:22

with a contempt the water split, Slapped

1:01:24

with a gag order hadn't send us

1:01:27

a thirty days in jail, mans. I

1:01:29

just the to bits of the differential

1:01:31

treatment was striking to me. and there

1:01:33

may be very good reasons to treat

1:01:36

Donald Trump differently. in some ways. he's

1:01:38

a former presidents, sees a presidential candidate.

1:01:40

He has a First amendment right to

1:01:42

criticize the case against him, of course.

1:02:00

Trump's claims about the two tiered system

1:02:02

are somewhat ironic because he is treated

1:02:04

differently from other defendants in many ways.

1:02:06

games are most or from politico. Thanks

1:02:09

so much! Appreciate A really interesting story.

1:02:11

How will Israel response after Irans unprecedented

1:02:13

the attacked over the weekend? What? We're

1:02:15

learning about Israel's latest work as a

1:02:18

meeting next. We

1:02:24

are back. Right now. The world

1:02:27

is on edge and awaiting Israel's

1:02:29

response after the unprecedented attack on

1:02:31

Israel directly by Iran over the

1:02:33

weekend, more than three hundred attack

1:02:36

drones and missiles launched from Iranian

1:02:38

land towards Israel. Us and Israeli

1:02:40

officials say almost all were intercepted.

1:02:42

As President Biden is selling Israeli

1:02:45

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the

1:02:47

Us will not participate in any

1:02:49

Israeli counter attack directly on Iran.

1:02:52

Sit. And stare me Diamond is in

1:02:54

Tel Aviv and Jeremy the Israeli War

1:02:56

Cabinet meeting ended hours ago. How should

1:02:59

we read the fact that there has

1:03:01

been no public announcement yet over any

1:03:03

decision to counter attack. Will

1:03:08

take. It's very interesting because yesterday when

1:03:10

the War Cabinet met for nearly five

1:03:12

hours we were quickly told that there

1:03:14

had been no decision made. Today after

1:03:16

nearly three hours of meetings, Israeli officials

1:03:18

have been quiet about whether or not

1:03:20

a decision was made. What I was

1:03:22

photo by one Israeli official is that

1:03:24

at the sense coming out of this

1:03:26

War Cabinet meeting with that a swift

1:03:28

as a response to this a rainy

1:03:30

and strike or was generally v consensus

1:03:32

and that has really been one of

1:03:34

the key points of debate or a

1:03:36

within the War Cabinet. Is not only

1:03:38

the scale of this response, how big

1:03:40

to go, how measured this response should

1:03:42

be, but also the timing of it

1:03:44

how quickly Israel should respond. But one

1:03:46

thing is clear is that they are

1:03:49

in agreement that a response is necessary.

1:03:51

I spoke with the former head of

1:03:53

Israeli Military Intelligence today that is who

1:03:55

said that Israel needs to reestablish deterrence.

1:03:58

Is. Not want that, To be a

1:04:01

part of the tool in

1:04:03

the two kids in a

1:04:05

in a future operation of

1:04:07

friction we do not want

1:04:09

to create some kind of

1:04:11

routine something need to be

1:04:13

done in order to to

1:04:15

reestablish the deterrence against Iran.

1:04:21

And subject Now the question just comes

1:04:23

down to timing. how quickly will be

1:04:25

Israeli military carry out the next

1:04:27

steps Today the Israeli Military Chief of

1:04:30

Staff General Hurt see how Levy saying

1:04:32

only that Israel will indeed respond

1:04:34

to Iran. Take Jeremy you also Us

1:04:36

and new reporting about Hamas significantly

1:04:38

decreasing. The. Number Of hostages. It

1:04:40

says that they're willing to release. What's

1:04:43

that? Yeah.

1:04:46

That's right, Shaker. Hamas has actually slashed

1:04:48

by more than half the number of

1:04:50

hostages that it would be willing to

1:04:52

release over the course of six weeks.

1:04:54

This is, according to an Israeli source

1:04:56

close to the negotiations who I just

1:04:58

spoke with. They said that while are

1:05:00

the basis of these negotiations has been

1:05:02

forty hostages released over the course of

1:05:04

six weeks, this is in the basis

1:05:06

of negotiations for months Now and now

1:05:08

Hamas is saying that it will only

1:05:11

release fewer than twenty hostages over the

1:05:13

course of six weeks. I even got

1:05:15

com and from Boston name. A Hamas

1:05:17

spokesman who told me that Hamas had

1:05:19

proposed quote releasing three captured Israelis each

1:05:21

week, but he said that no

1:05:23

one is talking about final numbers. I'm

1:05:26

also told that Hamas is demanding more

1:05:28

Palestinian prisoners be released in exchange for

1:05:30

fewer Israeli hostages. They're also asking

1:05:32

for more Palestinian prisoners who are serving

1:05:35

as heavy as sentences in Israeli prisons

1:05:37

and this. The Israeli source who

1:05:39

I spoke with said that they believe

1:05:41

that Hamas is does not want a

1:05:44

deal. That is their belief as. They

1:05:46

see this or that that talks effectively backsliding

1:05:48

with this the man. Oh and of course

1:05:50

the on this issue of Palestinian prisoners, there

1:05:52

is also the issue of the withdrawal of

1:05:55

Israeli troops are total enter the war. Those

1:05:57

are some of the other Hamas demands that

1:05:59

they are. Making right now that Israeli

1:06:01

official simply are not going to go for

1:06:03

Shake or Jeremy Diamond in Israel for Us.

1:06:06

Thanks to my stony astounded discuss former Us

1:06:08

Defense Secretary under President Obama and former Cia

1:06:10

Chief Leon Panetta Ah Sector Power! Thanks so

1:06:12

much for joining us your fellow. Former.

1:06:15

Cia Director Retired Gen. David Petraeus told

1:06:17

me yesterday that Israel is gonna happen

1:06:19

take some action and respond to Iran.

1:06:22

Or. But he added as a whole

1:06:24

menu from which to choose. What

1:06:26

would you advise the Israeli government

1:06:28

to do right now to respond?

1:06:31

To. The Iranian attack, if anything. Well

1:06:36

Draco, look there's There's no question

1:06:38

this was a historic and unprecedented

1:06:41

attack or three hundred drones and

1:06:43

cruise missiles and I see be

1:06:45

aunts or deserve is an unprecedented

1:06:48

of tuck. Up, but

1:06:50

it's also has an historic figure.

1:06:53

Or the reality is, ninety nine percent

1:06:55

of those weapons fail. Or.

1:06:57

And or Israel I think came out a

1:06:59

winner. Or after that attack.

1:07:02

So. My approach would be

1:07:04

according to the old saying that

1:07:06

the revenge. Is a dish

1:07:08

that spill served cold. And

1:07:11

while I understand the need to

1:07:13

reestablish deterrence. Or I

1:07:15

really think that Israel has to think

1:07:17

long and hard. About

1:07:19

what approach sure they should take.

1:07:21

They have a chance. To. Establish

1:07:24

an unprecedented alliance,

1:07:26

In. That part of the world.

1:07:28

United States, Great Britain, France,

1:07:31

Saudi Arabia, Jordan. Or.

1:07:33

You way. Or that could be

1:07:36

one hell of a coalition. To

1:07:38

confront not only Iran. Or

1:07:40

but also a terrorism in that part

1:07:42

of the world. So I would just

1:07:44

be very careful about what targets you

1:07:46

go after. Do you think? Refraining

1:07:49

will ultimately make.

1:07:53

Iran less likely if is I

1:07:55

mean if Israel does not respond.

1:07:58

You. Know that the thinking. Many

1:08:00

in Israel and the Middle East in general

1:08:02

is that you have to respond. Or.

1:08:04

Else you do not achieve deterrence.

1:08:06

Many people think that Israel's response

1:08:09

to Hamas. In Gaza. I.

1:08:11

Is based. In rooted quite

1:08:13

a bit in deterrence and making sure

1:08:16

Hezbollah and Iran understand what will happen

1:08:18

if they ever do anything like what

1:08:20

Hamas did october seventh, you think and

1:08:22

actually could be stronger for Israel in

1:08:24

the long run if they don't respond

1:08:27

and instead try to forge more of

1:08:29

a a regional alliance with Saudi Arabia,

1:08:31

the U, A E, etc. I

1:08:35

I think they got an unprecedented

1:08:37

opportunity here. To. Really build

1:08:40

a very strong coalition that they're

1:08:42

gonna need. In. The Middle East.

1:08:45

Are not only to confront Iran and

1:08:47

terrorism, But. They're gonna need that

1:08:49

coalition. Ah, we're not. We're

1:08:51

gonna sit. comes to an end. Or

1:08:54

and they have to determine what the next

1:08:56

chapter is. Look. I. I

1:08:58

understand the mindset in the Middle

1:09:00

East, it's always tit for tat

1:09:03

are you can't let the other

1:09:05

guy get away with anything otherwise

1:09:07

or erupt, you're undermining deterrence. I

1:09:10

understand that mindset. What?

1:09:12

What I'm saying is Israel has to

1:09:14

recognize what they've been able to to

1:09:16

to achieve your. Their

1:09:19

country was strongly defended by

1:09:21

a strong coalition. That

1:09:24

brought down every missile. Or.

1:09:26

That was aimed at them. That's when

1:09:28

President. Or and I think you

1:09:30

want to build on that. You want to build

1:09:33

on that coalition. You want to build on that

1:09:35

strength. To. Think carefully about

1:09:37

what the next step should be.

1:09:40

Look. There are. There

1:09:42

some tier one targets they could

1:09:44

go after that would clearly escalate

1:09:46

the war in the Middle East.

1:09:48

There's also some tier two targets

1:09:50

whether it's cyber, whether it's going

1:09:52

after proxies like Hezbollah and others,

1:09:55

But. There's. Also the

1:09:57

possibility of bringing got the gun.

1:09:59

So war two an end. I

1:10:02

am beginning to build

1:10:04

some kind of stabilize

1:10:07

Palestinian control in Gaza.

1:10:09

That. Would be a major step

1:10:11

forward. For. Israel and for

1:10:13

that reason. So there's a lot of

1:10:16

different approaches here. Said. Could be

1:10:18

taken that I think could strengthen Israel's

1:10:20

hand rather than weekend that. I

1:10:23

also want to get your take on White or

1:10:25

Jeremy. Diamonds has reported a source telling Cnn the

1:10:27

Hamas. Is slashing the number of hostages

1:10:29

It says it's willing to release. By.

1:10:32

Half from forty. To. Twenty

1:10:34

and his first round Hamas is asking

1:10:36

for even more Palestinian prisoners in exchange

1:10:38

has significant of a backslide. Is this

1:10:40

effect? By.

1:10:43

They go. I think it is a significant

1:10:45

backslide and it. It only confirmed

1:10:48

sir in my mind the worst,

1:10:50

which is that. Many. Of

1:10:52

the hostages that we think they

1:10:54

have a probably art. Or

1:10:57

dead for all we know. Ah, And.

1:11:00

This kind of. Backsliding

1:11:02

on hostages. Are.

1:11:04

Clearly is going to undercut any

1:11:06

chance. For a viable cease

1:11:08

fire. Up. It's

1:11:10

serve. It just tells us.

1:11:13

Are more and more. That

1:11:15

ultimately. Israel is

1:11:17

gonna have to decide. How

1:11:20

to continue to target Hamas Leadership.

1:11:23

How to continue? To try

1:11:25

to make sure that Hamas never again

1:11:27

attacks Israel. Are and

1:11:30

how in the end. We.

1:11:32

Can try to. Find.

1:11:34

A way to better stabilize that

1:11:36

part of world. I. I.

1:11:39

Think this could be a great

1:11:41

opportunity on Israel. Just had a

1:11:43

great coalition come to their defense.

1:11:45

You don't on a blow that.

1:11:47

Secretary. For that, always good to see a

1:11:50

sir. Thank you so much President Biden! today again

1:11:52

called on Congress to pass funding for Israel and

1:11:54

Ukraine. The senate did some more than two months

1:11:56

ago, but a group of hardline concerns and house

1:11:59

do not want the follow suit they're putting. Pressure.

1:12:02

On. Spit. House bigger Mike

1:12:04

Johnson. And. A critical meeting is

1:12:06

getting underway. This our that story next.

1:12:12

Favorite Our politics lead. A bipartisan

1:12:14

group of lawmakers are imploring house

1:12:16

bigger Mike Johnson to immediately take

1:12:18

up. That. National Security Bill passed

1:12:20

by the Senate two months ago that

1:12:23

included aid for both Ukraine and Israel

1:12:25

seen as mine erasures on Capitol Hill.

1:12:27

Mana Republicans are in a conference meaning

1:12:29

right now to discuss this a new

1:12:32

just pulled an important significant congresswoman or

1:12:34

aside congresswoman Mars retailers ring from Georgia.

1:12:36

What did she? episode? Yeah,

1:12:39

there's a lot of anticipation for

1:12:41

this moment right now because we

1:12:43

expect Mike Johnson designates a decision

1:12:45

making announcements about how you have

1:12:47

received on of foreign aid. Stalled

1:12:49

Foreign Aid You mentioned the Senate bill

1:12:52

that past two months ago input and

1:12:54

ninety five billion dollars for a D

1:12:56

Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. My job has

1:12:58

not moved on. that passes because it

1:13:01

does not include border security measures even

1:13:03

as Republicans in the house amazon. it's

1:13:05

scuttlebutt bipartisan for security plants in the

1:13:08

Senate. Nevertheless, because it is not have

1:13:10

border security measures that.staff Now Johnson has

1:13:12

been moving behind the scenes for the

1:13:14

past several weeks of within new proposals

1:13:17

for the games were support among Republicans

1:13:19

on. The issue of Ukraine it is still

1:13:21

a major question right now exactly what approach

1:13:23

is awesome will take him, whether he would

1:13:26

high speed train aid to Israel. Eight at

1:13:28

the vertically the aftermath of the Iranians have

1:13:30

attacks that happens over the weekend. Now as

1:13:32

and up more that you mention Margie trailer

1:13:35

Green Sheath has raised the spectre. That's all

1:13:37

for a vote seeking my Johnson's Ossetia such

1:13:39

as for some time she only one member

1:13:41

of the house to do that and she

1:13:44

is threatened to do so and she might

1:13:46

go that far as if you move forward

1:13:48

with Ukraine and she's. Dead. Set against

1:13:50

any worth u. S dollars going to

1:13:52

help Ukraine in his works against Russia and

1:13:55

I asked her will you will that be

1:13:57

enough for you to pull the trigger and

1:13:59

move ahead. What does all for my

1:14:01

chances house or she would not go that

1:14:03

far as soon as you said she was

1:14:06

your what my Johnson said it doesn't Of

1:14:08

course when tomorrow logo on Friday to get

1:14:10

down from some support to align themselves with

1:14:12

Trump Trump said that he stands by the

1:14:15

speaker and raise concerns what the efforts to

1:14:17

push our johnson I asked green whether or

1:14:19

not Trump's com as chains johnson's the her

1:14:21

approach towards my thousand in any way to

1:14:24

see indicated it does not see so that

1:14:26

perhaps it would be more supports the house

1:14:28

Johnson is he moves ahead with. Aids Ukraine

1:14:30

so take this is a critical moment not

1:14:32

just with a says of Ukraine's for aid

1:14:35

to Israel, eight Taiwan's and my chances because

1:14:37

of how does he hang on years amid

1:14:39

for the posts on the far right of

1:14:41

the House Republican Conference we do expect started

1:14:44

to address the present in about an hour

1:14:46

to talk about his.for here so did he

1:14:48

told reporters going into he's ready to make

1:14:50

a play golf and Republicans are within. The

1:14:52

meetings were different. to hear what I call

1:14:55

this year and market go against Green for

1:14:57

threatening his speakership are minor. Thanks so much

1:14:59

This debate. Over Us funding goes well beyond

1:15:01

just house republicans how might this all and will

1:15:03

try to game without your next. And

1:15:09

we're back with our politics. Lead A

1:15:11

deeply divided congress is weighing how to

1:15:13

pass more aid for Israel following Irans

1:15:16

large scale attack against the Us ally

1:15:18

tensions in the Middle East. Are.

1:15:20

Already so fraud and maybe Israel from

1:15:22

Us war. So happy President Biden keep

1:15:24

it from getting worse while also running

1:15:26

for reelection. My political panels here to

1:15:29

discuss and I your i have the

1:15:31

same prison bidens desire to avoid a

1:15:33

wider conflict. In. The Middle East.

1:15:35

Nobody wants Armageddon. Nobody wants World War

1:15:38

Three. Well, maybe some people do, but

1:15:40

nobody knew. Most recent abusing telling Prime

1:15:42

Minister Netanyahu that the Us is not

1:15:45

going to. Participate in

1:15:47

any offensive action against Iran is

1:15:49

the right moves. If is also

1:15:51

doesn't matter is that he's given Ukraine

1:15:53

my and in terms of being an

1:15:55

ally. in this moment where countries are

1:15:57

under attack, our democracy is under threat

1:15:59

and. There's a beacon of democracy under

1:16:01

threat. President Biden made it very clear

1:16:04

he will work in coalition. He will

1:16:06

surprise arms and armaments, but he will

1:16:08

not allow us both on the ground

1:16:10

to engage. I would draw this parallel

1:16:12

because this aid package is about Ukraine

1:16:14

in Israel and that question has been

1:16:16

brought up by Republicans in Congress Us:

1:16:19

What does it mean to defend Israel?

1:16:21

Was it means defend Ukraine. And I

1:16:23

would say that the by the administration

1:16:25

is drawing a boundary between the long

1:16:27

standing ally of Israel and the more.

1:16:30

New were protection of democracy after a

1:16:32

Russian invasion and and to be clear,

1:16:34

the United States has always. Stood.

1:16:36

By Israel. When Israel's come under attack,

1:16:39

the entire iron don't system All of

1:16:41

the system that allowed Israel to survive

1:16:43

the weekends are because the United States.

1:16:46

Support. Or in one of the

1:16:48

big moves going on right now is bigger. Johnson's trying

1:16:50

to decide. How. To deal with

1:16:52

his push. To their

1:16:55

those in his conference don't want

1:16:57

any foreign aid. Going. Out the

1:16:59

door at all. Ah, Murdered killer

1:17:01

dream for example like says oh,

1:17:03

This. Weekend she said that he should separate these

1:17:06

will aid from the Ukraine Aids or so.

1:17:08

People can vote just on the Israeli that

1:17:10

be did that already. It's already happened

1:17:12

twice. You voted against it by the way.

1:17:14

not that that was included in her tweets.

1:17:16

but then there are those in the conference

1:17:18

republicans who say no, We need to find

1:17:20

both of them with good both of them

1:17:22

out the door. What do you think to

1:17:24

them Privilege: I think the speaker nice to

1:17:26

move forward with funding and provide aid both

1:17:28

countries. Jake: the last thing we want is

1:17:30

for the Iranian government to move forward with

1:17:32

their Yeah I Uranium program there as sixty

1:17:34

percent. Currently I was talking to Colonel Cedric

1:17:36

Laden earlier today about that and he was

1:17:38

tell him it's only within a couple more

1:17:40

months that they could potentially. Be a close

1:17:42

to ninety percent or we don't want

1:17:45

that possibility off Israel. I also think

1:17:47

with Ukraine we certainly cannot allow genocide

1:17:49

on our watch. Me Bill Clinton you

1:17:51

remember the African she came late years

1:17:53

later and of alessandro want us off

1:17:56

or not taken action. I don't think

1:17:58

that will be good for the republican. The To

1:18:00

appear to not support our allies during

1:18:02

their time of nice. We know that

1:18:04

there is a reduction in democracies around

1:18:06

the globe right now, so I would

1:18:08

argue and Republicans may disagree with me,

1:18:10

but we have to stand firm, were

1:18:12

protecting the democracies that remains and they're

1:18:14

going to need our help in leadership

1:18:16

to do so as. After. Nine

1:18:19

Eleven. This idea that if we are

1:18:21

able to other countries stop threats overseas,

1:18:23

we can protect yourself here at home

1:18:25

is a very potent Ninety. Yes, that

1:18:28

is a message to that presidents and

1:18:30

allied Republicans can lean into. This is

1:18:32

all about deterring the challenges. And

1:18:35

with keeping them overseas. So the divisions

1:18:37

in the Republican party or one thing,

1:18:39

there's also divisions in the Democratic party.

1:18:41

Ah, for instance of I want You

1:18:43

To take a listen to what Democratic

1:18:45

Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania told me

1:18:47

yesterday I he has been basic. He's

1:18:49

basically suggesting that he thinks President Biden

1:18:51

is to wobbly on Israel. Take a

1:18:53

listen. As

1:18:55

a Good really demonstrates how it's

1:18:57

astonishing that we are not or

1:19:00

stand firmly with Israel and there

1:19:02

should never be any kinds of

1:19:04

conditions. Moments when an issue can

1:19:06

launch, hundreds of drones are towards

1:19:08

Israel, and I'm not going to

1:19:10

be talking about conditions. Over.

1:19:13

New. President Biden has suggested and

1:19:15

others democrats are right saying

1:19:18

there needs to be conditions

1:19:20

attached to any a future

1:19:22

military aid for Israel. You

1:19:24

know I think that this is a very

1:19:27

difficult line that by them have to walk

1:19:29

because he's going to as alienate people on

1:19:31

his side either way like they are people

1:19:33

on the far left that are saying and

1:19:36

in places like miss again are saying they

1:19:38

will not turn out as as live on

1:19:40

five and has not said up enough for

1:19:43

the Palestinians in Gaza and stood up against

1:19:45

what is happening within another places like some

1:19:47

Sylvania he's gonna say that plus fact that

1:19:49

he is not support of money off of

1:19:52

Israel he has tried to walk the line.

1:19:54

I don't know how successful way he

1:19:56

has been and at the same time

1:19:58

he has had Israel. Oh you know,

1:20:00

and even that attack on the consulate

1:20:02

that led to this Iranian the tax.

1:20:04

I mean you've had these difficulties where

1:20:06

you can see that the Us to

1:20:09

say Israel can you pull back and

1:20:11

you do this he do something differently

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and they're not necessarily getting that support

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from that allied. So I think that

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it's a relationship that they've had some

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the Arizona Nevada border as they vandalize

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like getting when you know and are

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worldly. The findings of a new review of

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the actions Us troops in Afghanistan took leading

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up to the deadly Abby Gate Bombing and

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Twenty Twenty One. Thirteen. You

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Are service members were killed tragically

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in that last with cemented in

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the eyes of the world just

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how chaotic America's withdraw from Afghanistan

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was seen. As Natasha vert ramps

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oranges now from the Pentagon and

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Natasha the biggest finding reveals whether

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Us troops actually saw the suicide

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bomber before the attack. Tell us

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more. Yeah, take this review.

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Interviewed over a hundred and ninety people. The

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caught a couple months and what it found

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is that he started members. Many of whom

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have said since last year that they

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believe they didn't see that bomber and

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had the opportunity to take him out

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before he actually detonated that bomb. Actually

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did not add those service members did

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not in fact see the individual for

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with ultimately deem to be responsible for

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that deadly farming His name is Abdul

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Rahman allegory as he is a member

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of Isis Kagan He was as the

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and and previously reported released or by

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the Taliban as part of a prison

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break. the days before the fall of

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Kabul you seem their on your screen.

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Now so many service members including one

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at Sergeant Howler Vargas Andrew the Marine

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Corps sniper or who testified last year

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about this had identified someone that has

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been described the news reports as the

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bald man in black as the individual

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who was suspected to be on that

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bomber. You can see him right there

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on the screen in the middle. There

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he turns out a cordless exhaustive review

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books by by the Us military the

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he was not the one who ultimately

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carried out that attacks and that the

1:23:02

identification of. Him by some of these

1:23:04

Marine Corps snipers with the result of

1:23:07

conflating two different pieces of intelligence. In

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fact the real Isis K bomber did

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not show up until just several hours

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before that Deadly Advocate bombing when in

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fact the bald men in black was

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identified about seven hours a prior to

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that attack. and so you see clearly

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that the of that the military is

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trying to address these concerns that they

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could have prevented this up but clearly

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according to military the could not. Have

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so it's Acid are also questions about

1:23:33

a marine battalion commander on cited Abigail.

1:23:35

And. Whether he understood the rules of engagement to

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the report, look into them. This

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is another complaints that some sniper a Marine

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Corps Cyprus had which is that they

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informed over time commander about that bald man

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in black and saying that they wanted to

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engage him. It was not clear what

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the response of the battalion commander wise to

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that requests but of course ultimately that shot

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with not taken. However the military says

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that the battalion commander understood very well. What

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the rules of engagement where and that There is no evidence

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