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Day One of the New York Hush Money cover
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up case against Donald Trump. It's wrapping up any
0:06
minute. The leads starts right now. Major
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rulings already. His first day of pro
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comes to a close. A Playboy model
0:14
is being allowed to testify that into
0:16
this Access Hollywood tape not allowed to
0:18
be aired in court. Plus a decision
0:20
put off on a potential gag order
0:23
violation by Donald Trump will have all
0:25
the moments as this rather salacious case
0:27
gets going. Was one key name on
0:29
the witness list. What former Trump. White
0:31
House aide Hope Hicks has already
0:33
said on the record what that
0:36
might mean for her former bosses
0:38
case and Israel's war cabinet meets
0:40
again weighing how to strike back
0:42
after of Irans unprecedented direct attack.
0:44
What Cnn his hearing about the
0:46
calculations their make it. Work
0:52
and the lead and Jake Tapper would
0:54
begin with are breaking news. Jury selection
0:56
in former President Donald Trump's criminal trial
0:58
in New York City is underway, but
1:00
moments ago, more than half of this
1:03
first batch of prospective jurors. Were. Sent
1:05
home package. Why? Well they said. They.
1:07
Could not be fair or impartial.
1:10
And. Just about thirty minutes. Donald Trump's
1:12
first day in this trial will
1:14
come to an end. but before
1:16
jury selection even began, prosecutors were
1:18
already asking Judge One Marshawn to
1:20
find Donald Trump. They. Were accusing
1:22
him of violating his gag order with three
1:24
social media posts he made about the case,
1:27
including one it Nine Twelve Eastern this morning.
1:29
Possibly. Wall actually inside court.
1:32
Trump in one post referred to
1:34
to key witnesses as sleaze bags.
1:36
those were his former attorney, Michael
1:38
Cohen in his former alleged paramour
1:40
adult film star director Stormy Daniels.
1:43
Remember, Donald Trump is being charged
1:45
with thirty four counts of falsifying
1:47
business records to cover up. The.
1:49
Alleged role in a hush money scheme
1:51
to by Daniel Silence and that
1:53
have another alleged mistress. Before.
1:55
The Twenty Sixteen Election. Here's a Stormy
1:58
Daniels Her self described it. It
2:00
as an eighteen. Was
2:03
it hush money to say silent? Yes.
2:06
All right, well. Ah, Trump
2:09
denied of course knowing anything about it.
2:20
He. Said he did not know anything about how many payments
2:22
a Stormy dangles. but then in two the as a
2:24
nineteen. Michael. Cohen testified before
2:26
Congress and he said something
2:28
else. I
2:31
am ashamed that I chose to
2:33
take part in concealing Mister Trump's
2:35
elicit acts. Rather than listening
2:37
to my own conscience. Mister
2:40
Trump has pleaded not guilty, He is
2:42
denying the affairs and as we wait
2:45
for a jury to be seeded and
2:47
for the judge's ruling on that alleged
2:49
gag order violation, Just Marshawn has been
2:51
deciding what evidence and what testimony jurors
2:53
will be allowed to sear. Cnn.
2:56
C Legal Affairs Correspondent Paul. Results are the
2:58
courtroom for us and for the jury Selection
3:00
process has begun and already about fifty people
3:02
have been let go. Yeah,
3:07
over fifty like those because they felt
3:09
they could not be impartial in this
3:11
case and they got a significant number
3:13
Because the Trump team, fox and one
3:15
to have that statistic David want every
3:17
one is as dismiss in that first
3:20
phase or the lumps in his life
3:22
he wanted us to take anything for
3:24
an appeal I did they expect to
3:26
avenge latter possibly appeal this case and
3:28
they want to be able to point
3:31
say look we lost over half of
3:33
the potential jurors because they could not
3:35
be impartial. Now after that
3:37
long lost about ten additional people for
3:39
other reasons and then they are taking
3:41
a smaller group of potential jurors and
3:44
his health have to go through this
3:46
injury questionnaire questions like where do you
3:48
work, where do you get your news,
3:50
and how do you feel about the
3:53
former president. I think it's remarkable because
3:55
these people have to answer these questions
3:57
in front of the former presidents or
3:59
Madsen. The pressure there, but that is
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a process as they would be conducted
4:03
for any other defendants Now so far
4:06
as they have not selected a single
4:08
zero, but it's not even clear the
4:10
little to do that today. They will
4:12
continue this process, starting with approximately one
4:14
hundred people and wiggling them down each
4:16
day except for Wednesday's on repeat until
4:18
they select twelve jurors and six alternate.
4:21
So far have there been any
4:23
big wins for Trump. Or.
4:26
For the prosecution. And
4:30
the biggest win for Trans was getting that
4:32
statistic about those who can't be in power
4:34
source for done Before jury selection got underway,
4:36
there were lot of other motions our lot
4:39
about evidence. These questions to the judge had
4:41
to resolve any lose some when some for
4:43
both sides For example the prosecution's have and
4:45
that Judge Marshawn will not recuse himself from
4:48
this case and we didn't expect that he
4:50
would. the Trump team has been pushing for
4:52
that. That issue is still pending before the
4:54
court of appeal, but he declined to do
4:56
that at the outset. The judge also ruled
4:59
that terror in. Nick Subo, who also
5:01
receive hush money upper her alleged affair with
5:03
former President sounds the head of the twenties
5:05
exceeds. Supply and
5:08
also the evidence of other stories
5:10
about to opponent that were amplified
5:12
by the National Enquirer can be
5:14
included. Now those two things are
5:16
significant because they help the District
5:18
Attorney's argument that all of this
5:20
the hush money payments, a Stormy
5:22
Daniels at his other payments, the
5:24
other mistresses and then stories as
5:26
I would be helpful to talk
5:28
they were negative about. His opponents that
5:30
all of this is part of an apple
5:32
to interfere in a twenty six female accent.
5:35
At the time team also had
5:37
some wins For example the.will Not
5:39
Allow and the Internet access Hollywood
5:41
to he also will not allow
5:43
and portions of the deposition from
5:45
the Easy and Carol Civil litigation
5:47
where this tape was discuss Any
5:49
also says that three accounts of
5:51
sexual assault by former President Trump's
5:53
it's Surface after the Access Hollywood
5:55
tape snows and will also not
5:58
be allowed any. So again it's
6:00
all pretty minor evidentiary issue fight
6:02
someone so the prosecution philosopher the
6:04
prosecution save with the defensive. For
6:06
a polarizing so much or soon and legal
6:08
he analysts are here. I carry Cordero know
6:10
we've only got Ellie. Do you think that
6:13
they will be able The prosecutors and defense
6:15
and the judge will? They be able to
6:17
find an impartial. Jury is or
6:19
is it possible for Donald Trump to
6:21
be tried by impartial jury in Manhattan.
6:23
So the technical legal answer to that
6:26
Take his yes, The. Prosecutors.
6:28
Were correct for some water charges case in Manhattan.
6:30
Sometimes prosecutors engage in a little bit of forum
6:33
shopping. Sometimes you have an option of multiple counties
6:35
are multiple districts A maybe you look for one
6:37
that's more favorable. Steer of Manhattan was the right
6:39
and probably only place to charge the case. And
6:42
as we see now we're going through this jury
6:44
selection process which is meant to weed out people
6:46
who are on do be bought by the way
6:48
it is remarkable. That. More than
6:50
half the people. Said. Right off
6:52
the bat, knowing one paragraph. Of information about
6:55
this case I cannot. Be biased and walk out
6:57
the door. That's gotta be a World Records and I
6:59
think it speaks to just how polarizing Donald Trump is.
7:01
So that's the sort of or how scared people are
7:03
scared people are regular bearing on a jury they may
7:05
not what want no part of the so that's the
7:08
sort of technical legal as well as qualify legally as
7:10
a fair trial perjury. Yes, in all
7:12
likelihood. But let's also be real that
7:14
what we're talking about here: Manhattanites overwhelming.
7:16
We dislike Donald Trump politically and personally,
7:19
when he got twelve percent of the
7:21
vote. In Twenty Twenty and less
7:23
than that in Twenty Sixteen. And just
7:25
think that the converse there is a
7:27
county in Oklahoma Woods County. Where. The
7:29
vote count was basically with Trump that eighty
7:31
five percent or so of the vote there.
7:34
So we think that the outcome might be
7:36
substantially different if he were try and Woods
7:38
County of Loma, then in York County in
7:41
Manhattan. So. Let's be real. It's a
7:43
very tough jury pool for down the proper
7:45
Sometimes that's how it goes. Carry the judge
7:47
Judge Marshawn said in a written order quote
7:49
the purpose of jury selection is not determine.
7:51
Whether. A prospective juror does or
7:53
does not like. One. Of
7:55
the parties unquote. So this morning
7:57
as the jury consultant. An
8:00
attorney about this take a listen to his response.
8:04
Most stores comments a jury selection they don't
8:06
know the depended on trial. This is completely
8:08
different. Everybody knows him, everybody has a view
8:10
of him. and I think under New York
8:12
los that that has to be taken into
8:14
account. What do you think? On
8:17
one hand, on that's crack. On the
8:19
other hand, there are trials that take
8:21
place in United States of famous people.
8:23
There's actors and television personalities and people
8:26
who have been in the interest entertainment
8:28
industry and it's a former politicians. I
8:30
mean we do have people who are
8:32
well known who go through the criminal
8:34
justice served as system so I don't
8:37
think it's. A totally out
8:39
of bounds that a person who
8:41
is well known former President Trump
8:43
is obviously a unique person because
8:45
he's. A former presidents and
8:47
so that puts it sort of and
8:50
a whole nother category. Would. You feel
8:52
what the problem for Donald Trump is just mathematically.
8:54
There's going to be a huge number of jurors
8:56
here who say. I'm. Inclined against him
8:58
but I can be for yes I can be fair
9:00
you are and let me try some. When a judge's
9:03
looking at you and says don't you think you can
9:05
put aside your personal beliefs, your political beliefs and follow
9:07
my instructions.were in the robe and rule on this case.
9:09
fairly ninety percent of people going to Just Just Like
9:12
I Can Do that really had an example today. The
9:14
bill bread and gave you about his experience in the
9:16
Trump Or and trial and a problem for Trump's team
9:18
as are people telling the truth when they said that
9:20
can they will I tend to side with are not
9:23
us to bit with the jury Consult My think humans
9:25
are humans and as much as we like to think
9:27
of ourselves. As unbiased, it's really, really hard when
9:29
you get down to especially case like this where
9:31
it's not necessarily cut and dry, where there is
9:34
room for interpretation or and so I think Trump's
9:36
to be real at a substantial disadvantages. Let's talk
9:38
about the gag order or because Judge Marshawn has
9:40
instructed Donald Trump that he he can say what
9:43
he wants, but the case You can say what
9:45
he wants about the judge. You can see what
9:47
he wants with the prosecutor. But. He
9:49
chance he needs to stop talking about
9:51
the witnesses. He needs to stop talking
9:53
with the family of of the judge
9:55
or or or the just returning or
9:58
or others. Are and Is. The
10:00
actually like a debate You hear of
10:02
Trump Attorney saying every time I've interviewed
10:04
one. I'll ask him about, you know,
10:06
Michael Collins Credibility? whatever. And they say I have
10:09
to be careful about what I can say because
10:11
there's is unprecedented gag order. I get the idea
10:13
that you don't want Donald Trump. Intimidating.
10:16
Are threatening witnesses but it by the
10:18
same time. Is it not a.
10:21
Questionable. To. Say that Donald
10:23
Trump can't say anything publicly. About
10:25
people who are like Michael Cohen, Er,
10:27
Stormy Daniels, or whoever are are attacking
10:29
a public. I think this is
10:31
gonna be one of the most
10:33
difficult and issues for the dad's
10:35
to navigate in this case. And
10:37
and that's because he does have
10:39
First Amendment rights, former President Trump
10:41
and has First Amendment rights. To
10:43
be able to speak about this
10:45
publicly. I'm he's also a candidate's
10:47
It also was taking place in
10:49
this new S environment in the
10:51
United States of threats against people
10:53
who are part of the criminal
10:55
justice system court personnel judges are
10:57
families, etc. Stuff we're I'm ushered in we
10:59
should know in the. N n he
11:01
he has fomented.environments on at the
11:04
same time. it's gonna be really
11:06
difficult for the judge to enforce.
11:08
New. Consequences Because if you're talking
11:10
about monetary find will find that are
11:12
in the thousands of dollars that might
11:14
mean something to a regular. For sense
11:16
are gonna be pennies to him, they
11:19
are going to have absolutely zero diner.
11:21
In a fact, if you see a
11:23
few thousand dollars for tweet or something
11:25
that's not going to anything or sense
11:27
it's like chains. Yeah so. I'm
11:29
so I think it will be very
11:31
difficult and then the idea of potentially
11:33
holding him and contempt or I'd get
11:35
a holding him in custody is seems.
11:38
Pretty out of bounds of what a judge
11:40
would be like to do so in terms
11:42
of controlling Donald Trump or quickly she could
11:44
alley. There's this thing called the Parker Warnings
11:46
which is about basically behave yourself and court
11:48
race or Trump responded yes three times as
11:50
he was read these Parker warnings acknowledging he
11:52
could get that a coke he could get
11:55
kicked out of court of is an outburst
11:57
I'm could you see any scenario where this
11:59
judge. Kicked out, rub out of his
12:01
own trial or send him to jail if he
12:03
supposed to set show up and he doesn't. I
12:05
don't see the judge sending Donald Trump a job
12:07
during this trial. I just think that's to precipitous.
12:09
Been on the first question could kick him out
12:11
of course. Absolutely it's Donald Trump does the exact
12:14
same thing this case that he didn't. the eg.
12:16
Carol case with the outbursts. He would get kicked
12:18
out of work for that portion of the day,
12:20
so that could well have. A Right
12:22
To Record Aaron. Are we going to
12:24
think so much? From the jury to
12:26
potential testimony? Hope Hicks. Is. On
12:28
the witness list. What the former White
12:30
House aide has said in prior interviews
12:33
that could come into play in this
12:35
hush money cover of case plus the
12:37
challenge where authorities after protesters shutdown parts
12:39
of two major Us cities, they with
12:41
us. And
12:44
we're back with our Lawn Justice League. We
12:46
know of a few key witnesses expected to
12:49
be called to testify in Trump's hush money
12:51
cover of trial. One of them who has
12:53
not gotten as much attention as others is
12:55
Hope Hicks. Trump's. Former Press Secretary during
12:57
his two thousand and Sixteen campaign. He also worked
12:59
in his White House in his team again Golf
13:02
as with me. Now to talk about what she
13:04
might be able. To. Say we know
13:06
from Michael Collins two thousand and Nineteen
13:08
Trial right? or that Hope Hicks at
13:11
least according to him and according to
13:13
her testimony or was involved in some
13:15
critical phone calls or in two thousand
13:18
and sixteen October right before the election
13:20
after the Access Hollywood tape. Prompt and
13:22
around the time the Stormy Daniels saga
13:25
was playing out, she testified before the
13:27
House Judiciary Committee two thousand and Eighteen.
13:29
Those phone calls were about. The
13:31
Access Hollywood Tape. But. The timing
13:34
is. Interesting, What might we
13:36
hear from her when she testified?
13:38
So. Again, let's just repeat. For
13:41
the record she says she did
13:43
not know anything about Stormy Daniels
13:45
in kill November and she's sticking
13:48
with that story that said to
13:50
your point October with him bad
13:53
month for the Trump campaign's first
13:55
Access Hollywood then all of these
13:57
some cause. We. don't know
14:00
what's in those phone
14:02
calls. But we
14:04
are hearing that there are text
14:07
messages, emails, other evidence. So
14:09
I think we have to wait to
14:11
see what she testifies, but it does
14:13
raise the question, what did
14:16
she know and when did she know?
14:18
Yeah, and the judge wouldn't, presumably wouldn't
14:20
let her testify if she didn't have information
14:23
germane to this issue, not the
14:25
access Hollywood issue per se, but
14:27
this issue having to do with
14:29
Stormy Daniels, should Donald Trump theoretically
14:32
be nervous about Hope Hicks testifying she
14:34
was with him for all of this
14:36
journey, very close to him, very loyal
14:38
to him. I think you
14:40
just said two words, very
14:42
close to him. Yeah, she
14:45
is the inner circle of the inner
14:47
circle. She was a confidant. She was
14:49
in the room a lot. She was
14:51
on phone calls a lot. So if,
14:53
and let's stress if those
14:56
calls were about Stormy Daniels, she
14:58
may know something. She may. It's
15:01
a big question mark as of right now. Let's
15:03
turn to another key witness, Michael Cohen, who as
15:05
we will hear from the defense
15:07
team over and over and over, he
15:09
pleaded guilty to purge recharges in
15:12
2019. Now he might be one of the
15:14
key witnesses for the prosecution in
15:16
this trial. We had Lanny Davis,
15:18
his former attorney on earlier today and Lanny
15:20
said something along the lines of he only
15:22
committed perjury because he had been told to
15:25
do so by Donald Trump. He was lying
15:27
then basically saying he was lying then when
15:29
he worked for Trump, he's telling the truth
15:31
now, but that's going to be a big
15:33
hurdle for the prosecution to convince the jury,
15:36
Hey, listen to Michael Cohen now, even if
15:38
he was convicted of lying before. So
15:40
there's no question Donald Trump's lawyers are
15:42
going to play this to the hilt.
15:45
That said, the other thing, Lanny
15:47
Davis made a point of telling
15:49
us this morning, but he didn't
15:51
say what was in it is
15:53
there are emails, there are text
15:55
messages, there's other information. In other
15:57
words, they're not going to just
15:59
be. relying on Michael Cohen
16:02
as a witness. One
16:04
other thing, what does Michael Cohen have
16:06
to gain at this point? He's
16:09
already served his time. He's not getting anything
16:11
out of it. Interesting. Jamie
16:13
Gangel, thank you so much. We're also following
16:16
the major pending decision right now for Israel's
16:18
war cabinet and the prime minister. Israel
16:20
has vowed to directly respond to Iran's
16:23
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shipstation.com, code POD. Turning
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to our world lead now, right now Israel's
18:04
government is weighing a monumental
18:07
decision, how and when to
18:10
respond to Iran after this
18:12
weekend's missile and attack from
18:14
Barrage, the first ever direct
18:16
attack by Iran on Israel.
18:19
CNN's Clarissa Ward is in Tel Aviv
18:22
for us, and Clarissa, the U.S. is
18:24
urging restraint. Will Netanyahu
18:26
and the War Cabinet listen? Well,
18:32
I think at this stage, Jake, what we
18:34
do know is that Israel's leadership has been
18:36
very clear that there will be some kind
18:38
of response, and it seems that there will
18:40
be a military component to that response. However,
18:43
it does seem that they are also taking
18:46
on board some of the concerns
18:48
that have been raised by Israel's backers
18:50
in the West. We heard Secretary of
18:53
State Antony Blinken, again, urging restraint in
18:55
sort of a subtle
18:57
way, saying strength and wisdom need
18:59
to be different sides of the
19:01
same point. Of course, Israel is
19:04
also dealing with other pressures, not
19:06
just external pressures, Jake, but internal
19:08
pressures, pressures from right-wing
19:10
elements of Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition, who
19:12
have said this needs to be
19:14
forceful, we need to give Iran
19:16
a bloody nose, we need to
19:18
reinstate deterrent. So there's a
19:20
lot of different competing factors here. I think
19:22
at the end of the day, you're looking
19:24
at a choice of probably three options. Probably
19:27
it could be a direct tit-for-tat
19:29
attack on a military installation on
19:32
Iran. It could be an asymmetric attack
19:34
on one of Iran's numerous proxies in
19:36
the region. It could be some kind
19:38
of a cyberattack. I think you would
19:40
also expect to see some kind of
19:42
a diplomatic effort trying to
19:44
build a coalition, trying to forcefully
19:46
isolate Iran further. But at this stage,
19:49
we simply don't know yet exactly what
19:51
the scale and the scope of this
19:53
will be, what it will look like,
19:55
and when crucially it will
19:57
happen, Jake. while
20:00
israel's war cabinet is waiting weighing
20:02
its options regards to
20:04
iran the raw file
20:06
ground invasion in gaza has been
20:08
delayed that's
20:13
what we're hearing i mean this operation
20:15
has been delayed for quite some time
20:17
for a number of reasons it's no
20:19
secret that israel has been facing a
20:21
huge amount of pressure on this and
20:23
a huge amount of criticism there have
20:26
been real concern voice about
20:28
the more than one million civilians who are
20:30
living now in rafa who are camped out
20:32
there where would they be moved to how
20:35
could they be protected then you
20:37
have the desperate humanitarian situation the fact
20:39
that famine is stalking northern gaza and
20:42
so there's been a massive amount
20:44
of pressure and criticism leveled at israel
20:47
and i think there's a sense from some of
20:49
israel's allies that like this
20:51
moment this attack from iran has allowed
20:53
you to reframe the narrative to reframe
20:55
the conversation it's giving you a little
20:57
bit of good will on the international
20:59
stage and so i do think there's
21:01
pressure for israel to sort of take
21:03
advantage of that but again we come
21:06
back to the spring of competing pressures
21:08
because within israel there is also a
21:10
lot of pressure to show results from
21:12
this war to show results in
21:14
terms of hostages being released those
21:16
talks have essentially collapsed so uh...
21:19
not exactly a surprise that israel would
21:21
use this moment to sort of deflect
21:23
away from that by focusing on iran
21:25
and then the broader issue will certainly
21:27
return very quickly of what is to
21:30
be done about the
21:32
situation in at rafan of course
21:34
the disaster situation inside gaza jake
21:36
are a course of war until the before thanks
21:39
so much of the right to retire you as
21:41
i was in the john spencer chair of urban
21:43
warfare studies at the modern war institute uh... general
21:45
thanks so much for joining us even following this
21:47
minute by minute former u.s. ambassador
21:50
to the united nations john bolton
21:52
told me yesterday that he saw
21:54
several options for israel uh...
21:56
in terms of responding to iran
21:58
that might deter Iran from
22:00
further attacks, take a
22:02
listen to former Ambassador Bolton. To
22:06
start by flattening Iran's air
22:09
defense capabilities, next
22:11
you might go after headquarters of
22:13
the regular military and the Revolutionary
22:15
Guard. You could consider going after
22:17
their oil infrastructure, the
22:19
oil fields, the distribution pipelines, the
22:22
export port facilities. And
22:25
most importantly, I think Israel should
22:27
be looking at this as an
22:29
opportunity to destroy Iran's nuclear weapons
22:31
program, which is the existential threat
22:33
that Israel faces. Is
22:36
that realistic? Are those decent
22:39
ideas for how Israel
22:42
could retaliate, in your view? Hey,
22:46
Jake, thanks for having me. And just
22:48
to clarify, it's major in general yet.
22:51
Sorry. That's okay. In our
22:53
view, in our mind, you're a general. Thank
22:58
you. All those
23:00
things are, of course, possibilities. I
23:02
don't think, and one, you
23:05
have to recognize the historic attack that
23:07
was done with the drones, the missiles, onto
23:10
Israel, and that it has to
23:12
be a comprehensive re-establishment of deterrence. So
23:14
it's not just tip for tat. Although
23:18
Iran clearly escalated this mini-rungs
23:21
of the basically escalation
23:23
ladder in comparison with everybody thinks
23:25
the reason that it happened. It
23:28
has to be a comprehensive. I'm not saying any of
23:30
those things aren't, but that's Israel's decision. The
23:34
Institute for the Study of War notes that
23:36
Iran's approach was modeled after the way Russia
23:38
strikes Ukraine, and quote, Ukrainian air
23:40
defenses have averaged interception rates of
23:42
only about 16% of
23:45
Russian ballistic missiles during recent large strikes.
23:47
The Iranians likely expected that Israeli
23:50
rights would be higher than the Ukrainian
23:52
rates, but not above 90%, unquote. Are
23:55
you surprised that the Iranians, at least
23:57
according to this analysis, seem to have
23:59
undrained underestimated Israel and
24:01
Israel's allies so
24:03
significantly? No,
24:07
I'm not surprised at all. This is a
24:09
sign of Iranian
24:12
power and the lack thereof.
24:14
But I also don't want to discount just because it's 99 percent,
24:17
and I'm proud of the United States
24:19
for assisting Jordan and others since
24:22
the Iran did violate many countries' airspace.
24:25
But it was their intentions of what they were trying
24:27
to do, yes, in modeling a multi-wave attack
24:30
and people somehow trying to make that seem
24:32
like it. They didn't mean to call us
24:34
harm. Even this morning, the White House said,
24:36
no, no, they wanted to do a lot
24:38
of destruction and cause a lot of casualties.
24:41
Just because they weren't successful doesn't mean they didn't intend to.
24:44
I also want your take on this
24:46
delay for the Rafa ground offense of
24:48
Israel is weighing the response to Iran's
24:50
attack. But obviously, they still have their
24:52
goals of getting back their hostages from
24:56
Gaza and defeating Hamas to the extent
24:58
they can. Others are telling
25:00
CNN that the Israeli Air Force planned on dropping
25:02
leaflets in the densely populated
25:04
city as soon as
25:06
today. Do you think a delay is
25:08
the right move? I
25:12
mean, I'm sure there are many factors
25:14
to include everybody discounting the fact that
25:16
Hezbollah attacks daily in the north
25:18
of Israel, and that does take resources, and
25:21
there are over 100,000 Israeli citizens who can't
25:23
go home. I
25:25
think Israel will conduct the Rafa
25:27
operation when they feel that
25:29
time is right and they're able to
25:31
successfully move civilians out of harm's way,
25:33
but also deal with things as nations
25:36
attacking them. So I
25:38
don't know if they're delayed or not, or whether
25:40
that's a good decision, but I do believe strongly
25:42
that the job has to be finished, Hamas
25:45
has to be destroyed, and the hostages have to be
25:47
brought home. But the way it's done doesn't
25:49
matter. All right, Major John
25:51
Spencer, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank
25:53
you. And
26:00
that was not the only city where demonstrators popped
26:02
up. That story's next. And
26:05
we're back with breaking news, day one of
26:07
Donald Trump's criminal hush money cover-up trial in
26:09
New York City is in the books. We
26:11
are waiting for the former president to walk
26:13
out. Court has just adjourned for
26:16
the day after beginning jury selection. More
26:18
than 50 jurors have already been dismissed.
26:20
They told the court that they could
26:22
not be impartial. Court
26:24
will resume at 9.30 Eastern
26:27
tomorrow morning. While
26:29
we're waiting for Mr. Trump to walk out in
26:31
our law and justice lead, the armorer on
26:33
the set of the film Rust was
26:36
today sentenced to 18 months in
26:38
prison. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was found guilty
26:40
last month of involuntary manslaughter for
26:42
the 2021 onset shooting
26:44
death of Helena Hutchins,
26:47
the cinematographer for the film. Hutchins
26:50
was killed by a live round
26:52
fired from a prop gun
26:54
held at that moment by actor and
26:57
producer Alec Baldwin. Baldwin has also been
26:59
charged with involuntary manslaughter. He is due
27:01
to go to trial in July. Turning
27:04
to our national lead in San Francisco arrests have
27:06
been made today after
27:08
dozens of protesters blocked traffic on
27:10
the busy Golden Gate Bridge. CNN's
27:13
Veronica Miracles tracking this story for us. Veronica,
27:17
were these pro-Palestinian protesters? Who
27:19
were they? That's
27:22
right, Jake. They're protesting what's happening in Gaza.
27:25
One of five major cities impacted across
27:27
the U.S. So this protest here appeared
27:29
to have the most significant impact on
27:32
traffic. It started at 8 a.m. It
27:34
didn't wrap up until about 1230. Twenty-eight
27:37
people were arrested here on the Golden
27:39
Gate Bridge, including six who had changed
27:42
themselves to each other and had stopped
27:44
in front of a block of cars
27:46
that were also part of that protest.
27:48
They were holding signs that said, stop
27:50
the world for Gaza. But. This
27:53
wasn't the only impact here in the Bay
27:55
Area. It also continues to be an impact
27:57
over on the I-880 in Oakland. The
28:00
hop online of clothes and protesters
28:02
there are Boston Herald onto the
28:05
roadway and same themselves to those
28:07
were the organizers. Say they are
28:09
part of a was like collective
28:11
that wants to have solidarity with
28:13
Palestine. They also are fighting for
28:16
Us taxpayer dollars to not go
28:18
to Israel. And
28:20
this was an again like I
28:22
said not the only area impacted
28:24
them are also traffic and protests
28:26
in Chicago. Has Chicago O'hare International
28:28
Airport for an access. Road, wood
28:31
blocks and for protester or if
28:33
you think travelers rather fifteen having
28:35
to walk their luggage into the
28:38
airport in also featured in Miami
28:40
and New York Shakes. Or I'd
28:42
running a miracle in San Francisco for as thank
28:44
you so much quarters. just the dirt. In
28:46
the first day of the New York has been to
28:48
cover up case down from might be stuck in a
28:50
courtroom for the next two months. Critical. Time for
28:53
is probably twenty four campaign of at my place
28:55
for him Politically will take a look at dentist.
29:02
Or we're going to bring a Donald Trump speaking they
29:04
know after his hers who fail. To
29:08
do a remember. Person
29:11
whose work. With
29:20
you for for years Resolution.
29:25
Version allows a. Fair
29:28
Trial. On.
29:39
Samsung. Is.
29:57
Suffering. And
30:01
then you have to force
30:03
is nicer to allow us
30:06
to success and is not
30:08
allow us to that to
30:10
be here for a good
30:12
to see so many states
30:15
supreme court because he thinks
30:17
he severe disease was a.
30:22
Lot of things had his. First
30:55
match. Or
31:10
I Donald Trump or speaking
31:12
after his first day of
31:14
trial as the New York
31:17
Turn a General. Begins. The
31:19
prosecution in the has want to cover up
31:21
case. Let's go back to seen as Paul
31:23
reaches outside the courthouse in New York and
31:25
Paula. Where
31:28
is the line there with Mister
31:30
Trump? possibly violating his gag order
31:32
with comments a sailing the the
31:34
prosecution did he stay on the
31:36
correct side of it because he
31:38
went after the attorney General, he
31:40
went after the i'm I'm sorry
31:42
the district attorney and he went
31:44
after the a judge but he
31:46
didn't go after the people. I
31:48
think he had been banned from
31:50
criticizing her publicly. Zara. Z
31:54
added in that hallway are not gray
31:57
that he is allowed to discuss attorney
31:59
the album rag organ the judge overseeing
32:01
the case of he does appear to
32:04
stayed within the bounds of has expanded
32:06
gag order for take. He's clearly expressing
32:08
his frustration with the fact that he
32:10
is a criminal defendants and required to
32:13
be in court during three selection and
32:15
throughout these proceedings of the tail end
32:17
of today's proceedings his The Tories asked
32:19
the judge about whether he might be
32:22
able to get a waiver. I specifically
32:24
they mention the supreme court arguments and
32:26
next week on Thursday or we're the
32:29
question of presidential immunity. Will go
32:31
before the justices and they asked if he
32:33
would be able to attend that argument and
32:35
as I said look you don't have any
32:37
right or requirements. To. Attend a Supreme
32:40
Court argument says the front former president
32:42
expressing frustration about that. He also said
32:44
repeatedly that he would not be able
32:46
to attend his son's graduation Now there
32:48
are no cameras inside the court we're
32:50
relying on. These are great updates that
32:52
we are getting from our colleagues inside
32:54
the courtroom, but there was no mention
32:56
in the lot of these are getting
32:58
about any discussion of his graduation, but
33:00
a judge said infer that he would
33:02
not be too liberal when it came
33:04
to granting him waivers from having to
33:06
attend court day, in and out. Or
33:09
eyeball read think some what's what's good or
33:11
of science check and what we heard from
33:13
Donald Trump or just then are here soon
33:15
and Tom form and Tom would jump out
33:17
of you were or jumps out of that.
33:19
He keeps going back again and again me
33:21
into this idea that somehow all these legal
33:23
scholars agree that this is not a good
33:25
case. It is fair to say there are
33:27
plenty of concern legal scholars. Who
33:29
are taking from side and this there
33:31
are some or the progressive liberal side
33:34
but far from all of a many
33:36
many other legal scholars and know the
33:38
zoo. Serious charge It is a serious
33:40
case and as much as he tries
33:42
to say is all about politics and
33:45
yourself and brag is a demographics this
33:47
case been building for a long time.
33:49
The original evidence is actually being collected
33:51
long long ago. and the notion
33:54
that somehow tied as he often does the
33:56
by the administration just no evidence at all
33:58
does who was his look like is
34:00
a serious legal case moving forward
34:02
that could have big political ramifications
34:05
but that doesn't necessarily make it
34:07
a political case and all
34:09
the legal scholars don't agree on that. All
34:11
right Tom Foreman thanks so much some of the characters
34:14
outside the courtroom today. Get at
34:16
the political divide Trump's trials create. We saw
34:18
supporters all in for Trump with big
34:20
Trump flags and MAGA hats. On
34:23
the other side the signs read election
34:25
interference is a crime and convict Trump
34:27
already. One group went through
34:29
the effort to make a large parade style
34:31
banner reading. No one is above
34:33
the law. Let's bring in
34:36
the panel and Naira let me start with you. I
34:39
want to get you, answer Michael to weigh in on this.
34:41
This idea that Donald what
34:43
Donald Trump did was election interference. That's
34:45
what district attorney Alvin Bragg says. He
34:47
says that because the the
34:50
hush money payments allegedly were paid
34:52
to keep that information
34:54
from voters in October 2016.
34:59
How credible do you find that the idea
35:01
that that's election interference. I think there's
35:03
a fascinating play here that the legal
35:05
side is making the prosecution is making
35:08
and they're leaning into the public conversation
35:10
in a way that typically you won't
35:12
see prosecutors do because it is
35:14
part of the the idea that Trump has 88
35:16
charges against him. The
35:19
the allegations are all out there. Trials
35:21
are happening in different venues at different
35:23
times and connecting these dots in this
35:25
way is a messaging device. It's trying
35:27
to get people to understand how Trump
35:29
has been consistent in his corruption in
35:31
different places throughout his career. But
35:34
people are not looking at hush money as
35:36
election interference. It does not seem or feel
35:39
like the same thing as trying to call
35:41
a secretary of state and turn votes over
35:44
change how they go. This this is this
35:46
is going to be a challenge I think
35:48
for the DA that he's tried to connect
35:50
in a messaging way what really should be
35:52
a strict legal pursuit. And when I
35:54
hear election interference I think of what Nair
35:56
just said of the idea of telling
35:59
a secretary of state. state to not count votes
36:01
or to count extra votes or even more
36:03
nefariously some foreign actor trying to change voting
36:05
machines. I don't necessarily think and this is
36:07
not meant as a criticism of district attorney
36:09
bragg but I don't think of election interference
36:11
in the way that he is trying to
36:13
make this case seem. What do you think?
36:15
I mean Jake I don't think you're alone.
36:17
I think most Americans will probably agree and
36:19
if you look at the polling day that
36:21
just came out on this particular case out
36:23
of the four it's the least where most
36:25
people are really worried about whether or not
36:27
they would or wouldn't vote for the former
36:29
president. When you continue to hear Trump
36:32
articulate this message that this is election
36:34
interference or attempting to stop me from
36:36
defeating President Biden there there
36:38
is some credibility to that in the
36:40
minds of many Republicans. You look at
36:43
Manhattan almost 80 percent of the residents
36:45
there voted for President Biden over Trump.
36:47
You look at the fact that Alvin Bragg
36:50
made very presumptive statements about Trump's guilt when
36:52
he was running for office. That's very questionable.
36:54
Then you had the Newsweek article that came
36:56
out earlier this morning that said he raised
36:59
almost 900,000 dollars since
37:01
inviting Trump and from a political perspective district
37:03
attorney bragg. You look at these instances and
37:05
you say well wait a minute here there
37:07
is a political angle to this when there
37:10
honestly shouldn't be. Yeah and let
37:12
me go to you Ayesha. A new poll
37:14
asks registered voters about Trump's criminal cases and
37:16
if they see the charges as very serious.
37:18
The federal January 6 case ranked
37:20
first with 58 percent as Richard Michael was
37:23
just talking about this compared to 54 percent
37:25
for the Georgia election subversion case. Then
37:28
the classified documents case has
37:30
50 percent. The New York hush
37:32
money cover-up case ranked last only 36 percent
37:35
viewed the charges as
37:38
serious. What do you make of it all? Well I
37:40
think that we got to step back a little
37:42
bit because you know you're looking at a
37:45
former president who is now running
37:47
for president again who is facing
37:49
multiple charges in multiple jurisdictions.
37:51
So we have to like put some gravity
37:53
on that and I think when you ask
37:56
people they may say look the hush money
37:58
thing doesn't seem as serious. as
38:00
interfering with the election and calling
38:02
Georgia officials and trying to get
38:04
them to change votes. But
38:06
this is still someone who's running for president
38:09
and it seems pretty serious that he could be
38:11
convicted by a jury of his peers. That
38:14
seems to be a big deal. And so I think that it
38:16
all goes together. Even if people don't
38:18
look at this individual case and think that
38:20
it's the biggest deal, I think when you
38:23
look at it all together, those people, not
38:25
his base, but those people who are kind
38:27
of, you know, iffy on Trump, this reminds
38:29
them of why they have issues with him.
38:32
This reminds them of the circus
38:34
that comes with him and the
38:36
very, like being charged with criminal
38:38
felonies, that's serious for anybody.
38:41
I mean, much less someone running for president. I
38:43
think the poll numbers have it about right.
38:46
I mean, it's not about overturning an election.
38:49
It's about falsifying business documents.
38:52
That's what this case really comes down to. And when
38:54
you call it a hush money case, you know, you
38:56
get into the whole notion of, you know, an affair
38:58
with a porn star and all that. And people are
39:01
like dismissive of that because
39:03
that cake has been baked already when it
39:05
comes to Donald Trump. The
39:07
other charges, and I think rightly
39:09
so, are more national security
39:11
charges and they're about overturning an
39:13
election. So I think the
39:16
poll numbers are right.
39:18
This doesn't mean that this case
39:20
is not serious. Fulsifying business
39:22
documents are serious. And when you go
39:24
back and look at the context of
39:26
all of this, this happened right after
39:29
the Access Hollywood tape. The campaign was
39:31
in a panic. They were
39:33
worried about losing women voters. And
39:35
if this Stormy Daniels case had come out,
39:37
they thought, or the Karen McDougall affair had
39:39
come out, they thought it could have cost
39:42
them the election. So they have
39:44
to tell a story here and
39:46
make it important and make it about a man
39:49
who was afraid of losing the presidency.
39:51
Here's Donald Trump today as day
39:54
one of his trial got underway. Take a listen.
40:00
persecution like never before nobody's
40:02
ever seen anything like it.
40:04
It's an assault on America
40:07
and that's why I'm very proud to be
40:09
here. This is an assault on our country.
40:11
So this trial could go six to eight
40:13
weeks that keeps Trump tied up in a
40:15
courtroom almost every day until
40:17
possibly early June. Now yes
40:19
he could campaign in the evenings and
40:21
on the weekend but doesn't
40:23
even need to go campaign given the fact that
40:26
this is going to be really
40:28
focused on in the news media for
40:30
understandable reasons. It's unprecedented. Well listen and
40:32
he gets to make have his say in front
40:35
of millions of people without actually having to spend
40:37
the money on a campaign rally. So he is
40:39
going to take every opportunity to get in front
40:41
of cameras and take that to lean into what
40:43
he wants to say but this isn't about persuasion
40:46
for Donald Trump. This is about repeating the same
40:48
thing over and over that he is politically persecuted
40:50
and reminding his voters that
40:52
there is a system that they can
40:54
blame. Ironically Trump started his campaign in
40:56
Manhattan. This is where he is now
40:58
being charged. This is the city where
41:01
he wanted to be a golden titan
41:03
and now Alvin Brabie is taking him
41:05
down specifically on the fact that his
41:07
business has not held up to public
41:09
scrutiny. Can we just be honest that
41:11
Donald Trump never really liked being out
41:13
on the campaign trail and handshaking people.
41:15
Oh he loves the rallies though. He loves the
41:17
rallies. He loves the rallies but a they're
41:19
very expensive and they can't afford them now
41:21
but he's not you know he's not somebody
41:23
who's going to go out and mix it
41:25
up in the crowd. He didn't do a
41:28
lot of town halls at all where he
41:30
mixed it up with voters. You know he
41:32
likes to jet in and jet out and
41:34
that's what he'll be able to continue to
41:36
do at least you know once or twice
41:38
a week. So whether it will impact that
41:40
that much I really don't I really don't
41:43
think so. So the White House says President
41:45
Biden and his campaign are going to stay quiet.
41:47
They're not going to weigh in on this unprecedented
41:49
day for Trump. What do you
41:51
think of that? Is that smart strategy? Are they missing
41:53
an opportunity to like point out the fact like Donald
41:56
Trump is you know being tried in a criminal
41:58
court. Well they don't need to. That there's
42:00
going to be a lot of coverage or that
42:02
they know that he's gonna get out there. and
42:04
for the people that they are trying to convince
42:06
this is not and look good for Donald Trump,
42:09
I think they feel like and they feel like
42:11
they can. What they can do is have Biden
42:13
look very presidential. He's out there working for the
42:15
people doing stuff with the economy and all of
42:17
this and Donald Trump. Says in court for criminal charges
42:19
so I think they're gonna try to play of that's.
42:21
Split. Screen wherever they can. Okay, we'll see
42:24
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42:28
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Plug of the the lead of the
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43:53
Capital as House Speaker Mike Johnson is
43:55
weighing his next move in the wake
43:57
of the weekend attack from Iran. Will
44:00
Speak or Johnson isolate support for Israel,
44:02
the foreign aid package without attacking new
44:04
aid for Ukraine. That's what hardline conservatives
44:06
want him to do. What Wilmington plus
44:08
hours away from what could be one
44:10
of the biggest moments for professional women's
44:12
basketball and superstar standout Caitlin Clark and
44:14
leading this our done with his motorcade
44:16
on the move. After a whirlwind of
44:18
developments as the first day of the
44:20
New York Hush Money cover up case
44:22
comes to a close. At least fifty
44:25
jurors interview today which is more than
44:27
half were already excuse they said they
44:29
could not be. Fair and impartial, The.
44:31
Judge ruled that the Access Hollywood tape
44:33
can not be played when her arguments
44:36
against he didn't allow future testimony from
44:38
Karen Mcdougall, a former Playboy model play
44:40
might Playboys Ninety Ninety, a playmate of
44:42
the month who says she had a
44:45
ten month affair with Down from which
44:47
he denies All this in the case
44:49
where prosecutors claim Mister Trump falsified business
44:51
records to cover up hush money payments
44:54
to adult film star and actors and
44:56
directors Stormy Daniels to keep it away
44:58
from voters. Right before the Twenty Sixteen
45:00
election, it's discuss. Now with p two
45:03
people who know key players in this
45:05
case. Stacey Snider is a Manhattan Criminal
45:07
Defense Attorney and a former contestant on
45:09
Trump's Tv show The Apprentice. She has
45:12
also work with Manhattan District Attorney Oven
45:14
Brags Office and appeared before Judge One
45:16
Marshawn. And Bob Barber Rez is
45:18
a former engineer for Trump Construction Projects
45:21
and author of the book Power of
45:23
Was What my eighteen years of working
45:25
with Donald Trump reveals about him. Or
45:27
Barbara. Let's start with you, what do
45:30
you think Donald Trump's mind set is
45:32
right now as he sits in court
45:34
for his very first criminal trial is
45:36
a former President. Yeah.
45:39
Can someone as the mayor parson. Yeah.
45:42
Barbara: Can you Not hear me? Or
45:45
hundred years you but.net seen isn't okay.
45:47
Let's go to Stacey Stacey you have
45:50
worked with both trump. And.
45:52
Judge Marshawn Trump has already recently
45:54
called the judge. Crooked.
45:56
How do you expect? this will all play out in
45:58
the coming weeks as those two. Sit in the
46:00
same courtroom. So. I
46:03
think Judge Marshawn and thank you
46:05
for having me Jake I Saying
46:07
that Judge Marshawn it has complete
46:09
control of his courtroom. He is
46:11
known to have control of his
46:13
courtroom and a very interesting thing
46:15
about him is that on the
46:17
Wednesday's when this case will not
46:19
be heard, that's the one day
46:21
they have a break. Judge Marshawn
46:23
actually runs the Mental Health Felony
46:25
part of Manhattan Courthouse says is
46:27
any judge that used to an
46:29
outburst in court Ah, who can
46:31
handle that? Perfectly. Would
46:33
that would be Judge Marshawn. So I
46:36
think Trump is going to control himself
46:38
a lot more than he did in
46:40
his civil trial in the other court
46:42
houses where he showed up in Manhattan.
46:45
What do you see see
46:48
see as Donald Trump's best
46:50
defenses and biggest weaknesses In
46:52
this specific case, Okay
46:54
well the da. There.
46:56
Isn't really engaging in a novel
46:58
prosecution here. They charged him with
47:01
the felony version of falsifying business
47:03
records as a misdemeanor. It's easy
47:05
to prove all you have to
47:07
do is put false information in
47:09
the records of a New York
47:11
enterprise. This case goes a step
47:13
further in that. The. Allegations
47:15
of the pay off to Stormy
47:17
Daniels with whom Trump is alleged
47:20
to have had this affair. The
47:22
adult film star the Da's office
47:24
is saying this is an additional
47:26
crime because those pay off and
47:29
the cover up of the pay
47:31
off in his business records were
47:33
used to influence both the state
47:35
and federal election. That's election interference.
47:38
So this is almost like a
47:40
dual crime prosecution within one charge.
47:42
So Trump's best defense I think
47:44
is saying. I.
47:47
Am an international celebrity. I
47:49
was before I became president
47:51
and. If. Another woman had
47:53
come forward or another person came forward looking
47:55
for money for me. It's
47:58
the cost of doing business. I would have. Hey,
48:00
this person to go away anyway.
48:02
So in order for the Da's
48:04
office to prove intent and this
48:06
is that's. The problem with
48:09
the Da's case is actually proving Trump's
48:11
intense. They have to. Show.
48:15
That Trump intended to interfere with
48:17
the election. They claim that they
48:19
have phone calls have conversations between
48:21
Michael Cohen, Trump's attorney who allegedly
48:23
made this pay offs or who
48:26
pled guilty actually not allegedly but
48:28
pled guilty to making the pay
48:30
off, the Stormy Daniels and Trump
48:32
planning this out. So both sides
48:34
have weaknesses and both sides have
48:36
strength. Do you think Stacey? It's
48:39
gonna be difficult for Donald Trump to
48:41
get an impartial. Jury in
48:43
Manhattan where voters are. Overwhelmingly.
48:46
Democratic capital D and voted for Joe
48:48
Biden. I.
48:50
Would use the word difficult that I would. Use.
48:53
The word painstaking and lengthy. I
48:55
think After today, this jury selection
48:57
process has already shown us with
49:00
half of the panel dismissed sterile
49:02
hundred jurors who get brought into
49:04
the courtroom at large and who
49:06
run through the juror a questionnaire
49:09
panel and they get picked out
49:11
sort of on for certain reasons.
49:13
Like they can serve, they're not
49:15
available to serve. they don't wanna
49:17
serve their biased. There
49:20
are going to be a lot of people
49:22
in Manhattan by nature of this is not
49:24
approach on city who are going to be.
49:26
Against Trump. Not in any case on
49:29
any issue that comes up in court.
49:31
Whether it's drug use they're are going
49:33
to be people with an opinion and
49:36
they will find a not yours to
49:38
serve they need twelve and six alternatives.
49:40
They will find enough people to. Com.
49:43
Support: listen to the evidence,
49:45
put any biases or feelings
49:47
they have a side and
49:49
give a fair. Verdict:
49:52
So it just takes time. Or
49:55
Barbara I'm told that are we have
49:57
our your audio and video Baca sorry
49:59
about that. Let me ask you,
50:01
Barber Trump is essentially being accused of
50:03
trying to cover up hush money payments
50:05
to silence an extramarital girlfriend about an
50:07
alleged. Affair. When.
50:10
You work with Trump? Did you ever see
50:12
any indication that he would be involved in
50:14
any sort of. Cover. Up
50:16
or paying somebody to be quiet.
50:21
Down to the sense that I'm.
50:23
Used to go out with marla maples
50:25
and always have zero there on the
50:28
that was sisters own personal thing. Now
50:30
is deal of the bomb us are
50:32
frankly I think that is covered with
50:34
somebody the south ah I would love
50:37
not have covered it up. You will
50:39
have to say I'm going out of
50:41
this point of stuff but intentionally he
50:43
knew that suffers heard him and that
50:46
was the reason for the payments In
50:48
this no other reason says and. Some
50:51
says something about his wife would be
50:53
applied for gas for around and a
50:55
bottle poor for it's Barbara. Other reporters
50:57
in the room say that that that
50:59
trump. I turned around and smirk
51:01
their potential jurors as he was introduced as
51:04
the defendant. Aren't you think that's part
51:06
of a and attempted to charm? Know my what
51:08
do you think that's about. I
51:11
think it's his way of showing
51:14
on how confident he is now
51:16
Chelsea his. Sister Sona
51:18
least tearing through. School
51:21
carry the suits as a trial. Or
51:23
I borrow resin. Stacey Snider Thanks and thanks
51:25
to both you to me now to discuss
51:27
Former Trump attorney has impressed me. He left
51:29
the Trump legal teams after the former President
51:31
was indicted in the classified documents case chimp.
51:33
Thanks So much sharper being here. So you
51:35
work for Donald Trump. What do you think
51:37
is he saying to lawyers right now after
51:39
this first they have trial the rulings obscene
51:41
to go someone his way somewhat the other
51:43
way. That. Look I think
51:45
the biggest conversation is about earlier about
51:48
the process of jury selection. Your it
51:50
is a challenge In today's world where
51:52
the jurors want in on my history
51:54
a lot of of wanna get on
51:56
a jury like this. They want to
51:58
have that opportunity to be us. The
52:00
Breed. you're at some point to go on
52:02
Tv and announced all the things that are
52:04
supposedly secret. By. Way of I deliberations
52:06
and and I think that makes a real
52:08
challenge for Trump's attorneys to try to ferret
52:10
out which ones are sleepers, which ones are
52:12
guiding their answers to the courts questions in
52:15
a way where they say, well, you know
52:17
I know, I. Voted. Democratic for
52:19
the last fifty two years. but I think
52:21
I could be fair. You know, if there's
52:23
it's a very easy task to kind of
52:25
shade. Your. Qualifying answers and away were
52:27
you my good sir. Selected early, she cut
52:30
into the number of strikes the President Trump's
52:32
team has to get rid of jurors without
52:34
cause. So I think that sounds is the
52:36
really Keep an eye on whether the judge
52:39
tries to rehabilitate jurors that might be unfair
52:41
to President Trump or whether he's very quick
52:43
to dismiss them. As long as they say
52:45
something about being biased and that's the ads,
52:48
it's not fun watching jury selection by their.
52:50
that's the challenge for the next few days
52:52
and to figure out what's the mode of
52:54
var of interrogation? What's the mode. Of. Disqualifications:
52:58
Taking place he appears to have been on
53:00
pretty good behavior or today tix keeping quiet
53:02
when he needed to keep quiet answering the
53:04
judge in fact I'm Maggie Haberman says she
53:06
was in this in the corpses as as
53:08
even appear to not off. At. One point
53:10
I would maybe are many of our viewers can find
53:12
reliable if you've ever been to court. But.
53:15
Do you think his attorneys are worried that
53:17
he will ultimately get in his own way
53:19
a by acting out in court as he
53:22
did for instance, during the Eating Carol case
53:24
that I don't think so amount have any
53:26
inside scoop there in terms of talking the
53:28
attorneys, but. The. Oh look, this is
53:30
a even a New York even if the
53:32
judge has some hostility to President Trump. Which.
53:35
The gag order would suggest he does. Yeah.
53:37
This is a tribal case. I mean
53:39
any litigator is is chomping at the
53:41
bit of the notion of cross examining Michael
53:43
Cohen. So I think the strategy? if
53:45
you're President Trump's lawyers, yeah, there's a
53:47
whole bunch illegal. Kind of a novelty,
53:49
which I would call frailty. To. This
53:51
case. But again of the day you want
53:53
to make it about Michael Cohen. None of
53:55
you can make it about a convicted perjure about
53:58
a failed cooperate Or and say folks. Would
54:00
you even by a car from this guy
54:02
much less base your verdict on this man's
54:04
word. That could be something that least gets
54:06
a hung jury which be a victory here.
54:09
So depressed or I'm let's talk about Michael
54:11
Cohen that zoc. what the hung jury strategy
54:13
term. We had a Lanny Davis here he
54:15
he used to be own Michael Collins Attorney.
54:18
And. His basic argument was in: this is
54:20
an attorney for Michael Cohen former. Ah,
54:22
That. Yes, Michael
54:24
Cohen perjure himself before Congress,
54:26
but he did so at
54:29
the direction of Donald Trump.
54:31
And. That's going be with Michael Cohen says
54:33
yes, I lied, but I did so because
54:35
Donald Trump told me too because I work
54:37
with him, but. Now that into the
54:40
truth is setting me free, that will
54:42
be easy you think for the defense
54:44
to poke holes and yeah, I think
54:46
that's kind of the fool Me once
54:48
for me, twice com at like you
54:50
know what? Which time are we supposed
54:52
to believe Mike one again at. He's
54:54
got a longer track record of saying
54:56
things, contradicting himself over time. When it
54:58
comes the President Trump So lucky guy
55:00
he's. He. Wasn't a great lawyer to to pick.
55:02
You can always go back and say well, you're the
55:04
one that picked them President Trump I get that. But.
55:07
He he's gonna collapse of his own weight
55:09
and a lot of ways. I mean he's
55:11
lied to Congress. He's a failed coup operator
55:13
southern District the New York. It's not shy
55:15
to take cases walked away not only from
55:17
this case but from him directly saying we're
55:20
not going to get many credit for cooperation.
55:22
His too slippery to dishonest. So again, that's
55:24
the focus you have to make it on
55:26
as a trial lawyer for President Trump is.
55:28
it's all about this guy's credibility. can't take
55:30
it to the bank and I am blaming
55:33
blaming the victim of his dishonesty probably won't
55:35
sell Chimp Trustee Thanks. So. Much. Appreciated will
55:37
have you back to talk for this case.
55:39
Continues: Donald Trump's motorcades as expected to pull
55:41
up at Trump Tower. Any moment Trump is
55:43
railing about the legal system being rigged against
55:45
him. Is the legal system actually kinder
55:47
to him however, than it might be to
55:50
the average American? We're gonna talk to somebody
55:52
who believes that That snacks. Here's
55:57
some video from this moment to go outside from.
56:00
Our were former President Trump just
56:02
arrived waving and are giving a
56:04
supporter of a fist to our
56:06
fans for months. Up until this
56:08
morning, former President From has been
56:10
lashing out at the judge and
56:12
prosecutors and potential witnesses in the
56:14
New York Criminal Trial. so the
56:16
judge put him under a gag
56:18
order banning him from making. Public.
56:20
Statements about many of the people connected
56:22
with the case and also from attacking
56:25
the judges family members as Trump has.
56:27
Mister. Trump is so out. The talk about
56:29
Manhattan District Attorney Oven brag and New
56:31
York Giants won marshawn which he did
56:33
over the weekend. Have
56:36
a. Highly
56:39
conflicts. it interrupts yards
56:41
You suffers from T
56:43
V S Trump Derangement
56:45
Syndrome. There's
56:48
no evidence that the judge. Has.
56:50
Any anti prompt feelings or biases
56:52
or Tds games ever, most are.
56:54
The legal editor for Politico joins
56:56
me now and James you're out with
56:59
a new story. I use a
57:01
quote how Donald Trump get special
57:03
treatment. In the legal system, that's what it's
57:05
Title than you right? in a Pro Trump as invest.
57:07
In a two tiered system of justice he
57:10
often says, and he's right, there are two
57:12
tears. But Trump frequently has
57:14
been the beneficiary. Not. The
57:16
victim unquote. so. Mister. Trump constantly
57:19
claims to be a victim of an unjust system.
57:21
You're right. it's quite the opposite. explain. Well,
57:24
I think there are many examples of
57:26
how Donald Trump and his odyssey through
57:29
the criminal justice system of the last
57:31
year is being treated differently and more
57:33
favorably than almost any other criminal defendant
57:35
standing in those same shoes. And there
57:37
are a number of examples of this,
57:39
and I think the. Principal.
57:42
Example is some the comments that
57:44
you just mentioned Jake the way
57:46
that Trump has relentlessly attacks almost
57:48
everyone involved in all these cases
57:50
his denigrate the prosecutors, the judges,
57:52
judges, family members witnesses against him
57:54
and he is under some gag
57:57
orders and is cases and he
57:59
certainly to. Grab the line of
58:01
a gag orders and sometimes violates those
58:03
gag orders. But even aside from the
58:05
gags in all of his criminal cases,
58:08
Trump is under strict pre trial conditions.
58:10
He has to abide by certain rules
58:12
and those rules. Preclude. Him
58:14
from doing things like attacking potential
58:16
witnesses against him, but he has
58:18
done that. He's just this weekend
58:20
he attacked Michael Cohen, this darwinism,
58:22
the prosecution's case in the New
58:24
York trials, and. What? I had
58:27
criminal defense attorneys tell me as if that
58:29
any of their clients were to make those
58:31
sorts of comments while they're on pluto. Release:
58:33
be thrown in jail pretty quickly. While.
58:36
What's the out to you today in terms
58:38
of the thesis or of your of your
58:40
article? in terms of. The Two
58:42
Tiered system. And and I agree with you,
58:44
by the way, there is a two tiered
58:46
system and it's. And. It's poor people
58:49
who can't afford good legal representation and
58:51
who often get you know, Of
58:53
shoehorned into into Prosecutions and we've
58:55
covered that a number of times
58:57
on on this on the show.
58:59
But but today did you see
59:01
any examples of this? The I
59:03
thought I was incredibly ironic that
59:05
much of the morning session today
59:07
of the first day of the
59:09
trial was about Trump's comments over
59:11
the weekend, and in fact the
59:13
prosecutors were asking a judge to
59:15
hold Trump in contempt for basically
59:17
violating those rules that I just
59:19
talked about over the last few
59:21
days and attacking Michael Cohen. And
59:24
then. We just an
59:26
hour after that whole discussion happened
59:28
in open court during the very
59:30
ones break in the trial sub
59:32
one on through Social and he
59:35
posted a video of one of
59:37
us allies attacking Michael Time and
59:39
attacking the judges wife after the
59:41
judge issued a gag order explicitly
59:43
for have been Trump from attacking
59:45
family members including family members of
59:48
the jobs and I think what
59:50
you hear from lawyers is that
59:52
if any other descendant worked relentlessly
59:54
attack the. Judges own family that
59:56
would not be stood for. There would
59:58
be no be. For that. The.
1:00:01
Pre trial good as it would be Votes: the person
1:00:03
would be thrown in jail finds. Banned. From
1:00:05
social media like Roger Stone was based on
1:00:07
social media when he was attacking his dad's
1:00:09
in his case is what happened today is
1:00:11
that the Trump set a hearing from a
1:00:14
week from from a week from now to
1:00:16
consider The prosecutors request a whole democrats and.
1:00:19
So adjust the lead of your stories. Really
1:00:21
interesting. A firebrand politician in Donald is about
1:00:23
the stand trial just a few days before
1:00:25
jury selection. He goes on Tv to slam
1:00:28
the charges as baseless and biases actually of
1:00:30
Be Ice and the Justice Department. but this
1:00:32
is not Donald Trump. It's. A man
1:00:34
in downhill, a former Dallas City council
1:00:36
member facing bribery charges. What's the difference
1:00:39
House and how those two words were
1:00:41
treated? Well
1:00:43
yes oh it's essentially I came
1:00:45
across it enters into my research
1:00:47
and sort of. I found this
1:00:49
analogy of sort of are relatively
1:00:51
high profile politician defend enormous for
1:00:53
of high profile in his own
1:00:55
community and when he was on
1:00:57
trial he made a series of
1:00:59
comments. you know I've claiming that
1:01:01
he was the victim of a
1:01:04
politically biased prosecution just as Trump
1:01:06
always does and five disguise comments
1:01:08
are quite tame compared to what
1:01:10
Trump or with become used to
1:01:12
from Donald. Trump and in
1:01:14
that case one single
1:01:17
comments claiming a politically
1:01:19
biased prosecution.that politician. Slapped
1:01:22
with a contempt the water split, Slapped
1:01:24
with a gag order hadn't send us
1:01:27
a thirty days in jail, mans. I
1:01:29
just the to bits of the differential
1:01:31
treatment was striking to me. and there
1:01:33
may be very good reasons to treat
1:01:36
Donald Trump differently. in some ways. he's
1:01:38
a former presidents, sees a presidential candidate.
1:01:40
He has a First amendment right to
1:01:42
criticize the case against him, of course.
1:02:00
Trump's claims about the two tiered system
1:02:02
are somewhat ironic because he is treated
1:02:04
differently from other defendants in many ways.
1:02:06
games are most or from politico. Thanks
1:02:09
so much! Appreciate A really interesting story.
1:02:11
How will Israel response after Irans unprecedented
1:02:13
the attacked over the weekend? What? We're
1:02:15
learning about Israel's latest work as a
1:02:18
meeting next. We
1:02:24
are back. Right now. The world
1:02:27
is on edge and awaiting Israel's
1:02:29
response after the unprecedented attack on
1:02:31
Israel directly by Iran over the
1:02:33
weekend, more than three hundred attack
1:02:36
drones and missiles launched from Iranian
1:02:38
land towards Israel. Us and Israeli
1:02:40
officials say almost all were intercepted.
1:02:42
As President Biden is selling Israeli
1:02:45
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the
1:02:47
Us will not participate in any
1:02:49
Israeli counter attack directly on Iran.
1:02:52
Sit. And stare me Diamond is in
1:02:54
Tel Aviv and Jeremy the Israeli War
1:02:56
Cabinet meeting ended hours ago. How should
1:02:59
we read the fact that there has
1:03:01
been no public announcement yet over any
1:03:03
decision to counter attack. Will
1:03:08
take. It's very interesting because yesterday when
1:03:10
the War Cabinet met for nearly five
1:03:12
hours we were quickly told that there
1:03:14
had been no decision made. Today after
1:03:16
nearly three hours of meetings, Israeli officials
1:03:18
have been quiet about whether or not
1:03:20
a decision was made. What I was
1:03:22
photo by one Israeli official is that
1:03:24
at the sense coming out of this
1:03:26
War Cabinet meeting with that a swift
1:03:28
as a response to this a rainy
1:03:30
and strike or was generally v consensus
1:03:32
and that has really been one of
1:03:34
the key points of debate or a
1:03:36
within the War Cabinet. Is not only
1:03:38
the scale of this response, how big
1:03:40
to go, how measured this response should
1:03:42
be, but also the timing of it
1:03:44
how quickly Israel should respond. But one
1:03:46
thing is clear is that they are
1:03:49
in agreement that a response is necessary.
1:03:51
I spoke with the former head of
1:03:53
Israeli Military Intelligence today that is who
1:03:55
said that Israel needs to reestablish deterrence.
1:03:58
Is. Not want that, To be a
1:04:01
part of the tool in
1:04:03
the two kids in a
1:04:05
in a future operation of
1:04:07
friction we do not want
1:04:09
to create some kind of
1:04:11
routine something need to be
1:04:13
done in order to to
1:04:15
reestablish the deterrence against Iran.
1:04:21
And subject Now the question just comes
1:04:23
down to timing. how quickly will be
1:04:25
Israeli military carry out the next
1:04:27
steps Today the Israeli Military Chief of
1:04:30
Staff General Hurt see how Levy saying
1:04:32
only that Israel will indeed respond
1:04:34
to Iran. Take Jeremy you also Us
1:04:36
and new reporting about Hamas significantly
1:04:38
decreasing. The. Number Of hostages. It
1:04:40
says that they're willing to release. What's
1:04:43
that? Yeah.
1:04:46
That's right, Shaker. Hamas has actually slashed
1:04:48
by more than half the number of
1:04:50
hostages that it would be willing to
1:04:52
release over the course of six weeks.
1:04:54
This is, according to an Israeli source
1:04:56
close to the negotiations who I just
1:04:58
spoke with. They said that while are
1:05:00
the basis of these negotiations has been
1:05:02
forty hostages released over the course of
1:05:04
six weeks, this is in the basis
1:05:06
of negotiations for months Now and now
1:05:08
Hamas is saying that it will only
1:05:11
release fewer than twenty hostages over the
1:05:13
course of six weeks. I even got
1:05:15
com and from Boston name. A Hamas
1:05:17
spokesman who told me that Hamas had
1:05:19
proposed quote releasing three captured Israelis each
1:05:21
week, but he said that no
1:05:23
one is talking about final numbers. I'm
1:05:26
also told that Hamas is demanding more
1:05:28
Palestinian prisoners be released in exchange for
1:05:30
fewer Israeli hostages. They're also asking
1:05:32
for more Palestinian prisoners who are serving
1:05:35
as heavy as sentences in Israeli prisons
1:05:37
and this. The Israeli source who
1:05:39
I spoke with said that they believe
1:05:41
that Hamas is does not want a
1:05:44
deal. That is their belief as. They
1:05:46
see this or that that talks effectively backsliding
1:05:48
with this the man. Oh and of course
1:05:50
the on this issue of Palestinian prisoners, there
1:05:52
is also the issue of the withdrawal of
1:05:55
Israeli troops are total enter the war. Those
1:05:57
are some of the other Hamas demands that
1:05:59
they are. Making right now that Israeli
1:06:01
official simply are not going to go for
1:06:03
Shake or Jeremy Diamond in Israel for Us.
1:06:06
Thanks to my stony astounded discuss former Us
1:06:08
Defense Secretary under President Obama and former Cia
1:06:10
Chief Leon Panetta Ah Sector Power! Thanks so
1:06:12
much for joining us your fellow. Former.
1:06:15
Cia Director Retired Gen. David Petraeus told
1:06:17
me yesterday that Israel is gonna happen
1:06:19
take some action and respond to Iran.
1:06:22
Or. But he added as a whole
1:06:24
menu from which to choose. What
1:06:26
would you advise the Israeli government
1:06:28
to do right now to respond?
1:06:31
To. The Iranian attack, if anything. Well
1:06:36
Draco, look there's There's no question
1:06:38
this was a historic and unprecedented
1:06:41
attack or three hundred drones and
1:06:43
cruise missiles and I see be
1:06:45
aunts or deserve is an unprecedented
1:06:48
of tuck. Up, but
1:06:50
it's also has an historic figure.
1:06:53
Or the reality is, ninety nine percent
1:06:55
of those weapons fail. Or.
1:06:57
And or Israel I think came out a
1:06:59
winner. Or after that attack.
1:07:02
So. My approach would be
1:07:04
according to the old saying that
1:07:06
the revenge. Is a dish
1:07:08
that spill served cold. And
1:07:11
while I understand the need to
1:07:13
reestablish deterrence. Or I
1:07:15
really think that Israel has to think
1:07:17
long and hard. About
1:07:19
what approach sure they should take.
1:07:21
They have a chance. To. Establish
1:07:24
an unprecedented alliance,
1:07:26
In. That part of the world.
1:07:28
United States, Great Britain, France,
1:07:31
Saudi Arabia, Jordan. Or.
1:07:33
You way. Or that could be
1:07:36
one hell of a coalition. To
1:07:38
confront not only Iran. Or
1:07:40
but also a terrorism in that part
1:07:42
of the world. So I would just
1:07:44
be very careful about what targets you
1:07:46
go after. Do you think? Refraining
1:07:49
will ultimately make.
1:07:53
Iran less likely if is I
1:07:55
mean if Israel does not respond.
1:07:58
You. Know that the thinking. Many
1:08:00
in Israel and the Middle East in general
1:08:02
is that you have to respond. Or.
1:08:04
Else you do not achieve deterrence.
1:08:06
Many people think that Israel's response
1:08:09
to Hamas. In Gaza. I.
1:08:11
Is based. In rooted quite
1:08:13
a bit in deterrence and making sure
1:08:16
Hezbollah and Iran understand what will happen
1:08:18
if they ever do anything like what
1:08:20
Hamas did october seventh, you think and
1:08:22
actually could be stronger for Israel in
1:08:24
the long run if they don't respond
1:08:27
and instead try to forge more of
1:08:29
a a regional alliance with Saudi Arabia,
1:08:31
the U, A E, etc. I
1:08:35
I think they got an unprecedented
1:08:37
opportunity here. To. Really build
1:08:40
a very strong coalition that they're
1:08:42
gonna need. In. The Middle East.
1:08:45
Are not only to confront Iran and
1:08:47
terrorism, But. They're gonna need that
1:08:49
coalition. Ah, we're not. We're
1:08:51
gonna sit. comes to an end. Or
1:08:54
and they have to determine what the next
1:08:56
chapter is. Look. I. I
1:08:58
understand the mindset in the Middle
1:09:00
East, it's always tit for tat
1:09:03
are you can't let the other
1:09:05
guy get away with anything otherwise
1:09:07
or erupt, you're undermining deterrence. I
1:09:10
understand that mindset. What?
1:09:12
What I'm saying is Israel has to
1:09:14
recognize what they've been able to to
1:09:16
to achieve your. Their
1:09:19
country was strongly defended by
1:09:21
a strong coalition. That
1:09:24
brought down every missile. Or.
1:09:26
That was aimed at them. That's when
1:09:28
President. Or and I think you
1:09:30
want to build on that. You want to build
1:09:33
on that coalition. You want to build on that
1:09:35
strength. To. Think carefully about
1:09:37
what the next step should be.
1:09:40
Look. There are. There
1:09:42
some tier one targets they could
1:09:44
go after that would clearly escalate
1:09:46
the war in the Middle East.
1:09:48
There's also some tier two targets
1:09:50
whether it's cyber, whether it's going
1:09:52
after proxies like Hezbollah and others,
1:09:55
But. There's. Also the
1:09:57
possibility of bringing got the gun.
1:09:59
So war two an end. I
1:10:02
am beginning to build
1:10:04
some kind of stabilize
1:10:07
Palestinian control in Gaza.
1:10:09
That. Would be a major step
1:10:11
forward. For. Israel and for
1:10:13
that reason. So there's a lot of
1:10:16
different approaches here. Said. Could be
1:10:18
taken that I think could strengthen Israel's
1:10:20
hand rather than weekend that. I
1:10:23
also want to get your take on White or
1:10:25
Jeremy. Diamonds has reported a source telling Cnn the
1:10:27
Hamas. Is slashing the number of hostages
1:10:29
It says it's willing to release. By.
1:10:32
Half from forty. To. Twenty
1:10:34
and his first round Hamas is asking
1:10:36
for even more Palestinian prisoners in exchange
1:10:38
has significant of a backslide. Is this
1:10:40
effect? By.
1:10:43
They go. I think it is a significant
1:10:45
backslide and it. It only confirmed
1:10:48
sir in my mind the worst,
1:10:50
which is that. Many. Of
1:10:52
the hostages that we think they
1:10:54
have a probably art. Or
1:10:57
dead for all we know. Ah, And.
1:11:00
This kind of. Backsliding
1:11:02
on hostages. Are.
1:11:04
Clearly is going to undercut any
1:11:06
chance. For a viable cease
1:11:08
fire. Up. It's
1:11:10
serve. It just tells us.
1:11:13
Are more and more. That
1:11:15
ultimately. Israel is
1:11:17
gonna have to decide. How
1:11:20
to continue to target Hamas Leadership.
1:11:23
How to continue? To try
1:11:25
to make sure that Hamas never again
1:11:27
attacks Israel. Are and
1:11:30
how in the end. We.
1:11:32
Can try to. Find.
1:11:34
A way to better stabilize that
1:11:36
part of world. I. I.
1:11:39
Think this could be a great
1:11:41
opportunity on Israel. Just had a
1:11:43
great coalition come to their defense.
1:11:45
You don't on a blow that.
1:11:47
Secretary. For that, always good to see a
1:11:50
sir. Thank you so much President Biden! today again
1:11:52
called on Congress to pass funding for Israel and
1:11:54
Ukraine. The senate did some more than two months
1:11:56
ago, but a group of hardline concerns and house
1:11:59
do not want the follow suit they're putting. Pressure.
1:12:02
On. Spit. House bigger Mike
1:12:04
Johnson. And. A critical meeting is
1:12:06
getting underway. This our that story next.
1:12:12
Favorite Our politics lead. A bipartisan
1:12:14
group of lawmakers are imploring house
1:12:16
bigger Mike Johnson to immediately take
1:12:18
up. That. National Security Bill passed
1:12:20
by the Senate two months ago that
1:12:23
included aid for both Ukraine and Israel
1:12:25
seen as mine erasures on Capitol Hill.
1:12:27
Mana Republicans are in a conference meaning
1:12:29
right now to discuss this a new
1:12:32
just pulled an important significant congresswoman or
1:12:34
aside congresswoman Mars retailers ring from Georgia.
1:12:36
What did she? episode? Yeah,
1:12:39
there's a lot of anticipation for
1:12:41
this moment right now because we
1:12:43
expect Mike Johnson designates a decision
1:12:45
making announcements about how you have
1:12:47
received on of foreign aid. Stalled
1:12:49
Foreign Aid You mentioned the Senate bill
1:12:52
that past two months ago input and
1:12:54
ninety five billion dollars for a D
1:12:56
Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. My job has
1:12:58
not moved on. that passes because it
1:13:01
does not include border security measures even
1:13:03
as Republicans in the house amazon. it's
1:13:05
scuttlebutt bipartisan for security plants in the
1:13:08
Senate. Nevertheless, because it is not have
1:13:10
border security measures that.staff Now Johnson has
1:13:12
been moving behind the scenes for the
1:13:14
past several weeks of within new proposals
1:13:17
for the games were support among Republicans
1:13:19
on. The issue of Ukraine it is still
1:13:21
a major question right now exactly what approach
1:13:23
is awesome will take him, whether he would
1:13:26
high speed train aid to Israel. Eight at
1:13:28
the vertically the aftermath of the Iranians have
1:13:30
attacks that happens over the weekend. Now as
1:13:32
and up more that you mention Margie trailer
1:13:35
Green Sheath has raised the spectre. That's all
1:13:37
for a vote seeking my Johnson's Ossetia such
1:13:39
as for some time she only one member
1:13:41
of the house to do that and she
1:13:44
is threatened to do so and she might
1:13:46
go that far as if you move forward
1:13:48
with Ukraine and she's. Dead. Set against
1:13:50
any worth u. S dollars going to
1:13:52
help Ukraine in his works against Russia and
1:13:55
I asked her will you will that be
1:13:57
enough for you to pull the trigger and
1:13:59
move ahead. What does all for my
1:14:01
chances house or she would not go that
1:14:03
far as soon as you said she was
1:14:06
your what my Johnson said it doesn't Of
1:14:08
course when tomorrow logo on Friday to get
1:14:10
down from some support to align themselves with
1:14:12
Trump Trump said that he stands by the
1:14:15
speaker and raise concerns what the efforts to
1:14:17
push our johnson I asked green whether or
1:14:19
not Trump's com as chains johnson's the her
1:14:21
approach towards my thousand in any way to
1:14:24
see indicated it does not see so that
1:14:26
perhaps it would be more supports the house
1:14:28
Johnson is he moves ahead with. Aids Ukraine
1:14:30
so take this is a critical moment not
1:14:32
just with a says of Ukraine's for aid
1:14:35
to Israel, eight Taiwan's and my chances because
1:14:37
of how does he hang on years amid
1:14:39
for the posts on the far right of
1:14:41
the House Republican Conference we do expect started
1:14:44
to address the present in about an hour
1:14:46
to talk about his.for here so did he
1:14:48
told reporters going into he's ready to make
1:14:50
a play golf and Republicans are within. The
1:14:52
meetings were different. to hear what I call
1:14:55
this year and market go against Green for
1:14:57
threatening his speakership are minor. Thanks so much
1:14:59
This debate. Over Us funding goes well beyond
1:15:01
just house republicans how might this all and will
1:15:03
try to game without your next. And
1:15:09
we're back with our politics. Lead A
1:15:11
deeply divided congress is weighing how to
1:15:13
pass more aid for Israel following Irans
1:15:16
large scale attack against the Us ally
1:15:18
tensions in the Middle East. Are.
1:15:20
Already so fraud and maybe Israel from
1:15:22
Us war. So happy President Biden keep
1:15:24
it from getting worse while also running
1:15:26
for reelection. My political panels here to
1:15:29
discuss and I your i have the
1:15:31
same prison bidens desire to avoid a
1:15:33
wider conflict. In. The Middle East.
1:15:35
Nobody wants Armageddon. Nobody wants World War
1:15:38
Three. Well, maybe some people do, but
1:15:40
nobody knew. Most recent abusing telling Prime
1:15:42
Minister Netanyahu that the Us is not
1:15:45
going to. Participate in
1:15:47
any offensive action against Iran is
1:15:49
the right moves. If is also
1:15:51
doesn't matter is that he's given Ukraine
1:15:53
my and in terms of being an
1:15:55
ally. in this moment where countries are
1:15:57
under attack, our democracy is under threat
1:15:59
and. There's a beacon of democracy under
1:16:01
threat. President Biden made it very clear
1:16:04
he will work in coalition. He will
1:16:06
surprise arms and armaments, but he will
1:16:08
not allow us both on the ground
1:16:10
to engage. I would draw this parallel
1:16:12
because this aid package is about Ukraine
1:16:14
in Israel and that question has been
1:16:16
brought up by Republicans in Congress Us:
1:16:19
What does it mean to defend Israel?
1:16:21
Was it means defend Ukraine. And I
1:16:23
would say that the by the administration
1:16:25
is drawing a boundary between the long
1:16:27
standing ally of Israel and the more.
1:16:30
New were protection of democracy after a
1:16:32
Russian invasion and and to be clear,
1:16:34
the United States has always. Stood.
1:16:36
By Israel. When Israel's come under attack,
1:16:39
the entire iron don't system All of
1:16:41
the system that allowed Israel to survive
1:16:43
the weekends are because the United States.
1:16:46
Support. Or in one of the
1:16:48
big moves going on right now is bigger. Johnson's trying
1:16:50
to decide. How. To deal with
1:16:52
his push. To their
1:16:55
those in his conference don't want
1:16:57
any foreign aid. Going. Out the
1:16:59
door at all. Ah, Murdered killer
1:17:01
dream for example like says oh,
1:17:03
This. Weekend she said that he should separate these
1:17:06
will aid from the Ukraine Aids or so.
1:17:08
People can vote just on the Israeli that
1:17:10
be did that already. It's already happened
1:17:12
twice. You voted against it by the way.
1:17:14
not that that was included in her tweets.
1:17:16
but then there are those in the conference
1:17:18
republicans who say no, We need to find
1:17:20
both of them with good both of them
1:17:22
out the door. What do you think to
1:17:24
them Privilege: I think the speaker nice to
1:17:26
move forward with funding and provide aid both
1:17:28
countries. Jake: the last thing we want is
1:17:30
for the Iranian government to move forward with
1:17:32
their Yeah I Uranium program there as sixty
1:17:34
percent. Currently I was talking to Colonel Cedric
1:17:36
Laden earlier today about that and he was
1:17:38
tell him it's only within a couple more
1:17:40
months that they could potentially. Be a close
1:17:42
to ninety percent or we don't want
1:17:45
that possibility off Israel. I also think
1:17:47
with Ukraine we certainly cannot allow genocide
1:17:49
on our watch. Me Bill Clinton you
1:17:51
remember the African she came late years
1:17:53
later and of alessandro want us off
1:17:56
or not taken action. I don't think
1:17:58
that will be good for the republican. The To
1:18:00
appear to not support our allies during
1:18:02
their time of nice. We know that
1:18:04
there is a reduction in democracies around
1:18:06
the globe right now, so I would
1:18:08
argue and Republicans may disagree with me,
1:18:10
but we have to stand firm, were
1:18:12
protecting the democracies that remains and they're
1:18:14
going to need our help in leadership
1:18:16
to do so as. After. Nine
1:18:19
Eleven. This idea that if we are
1:18:21
able to other countries stop threats overseas,
1:18:23
we can protect yourself here at home
1:18:25
is a very potent Ninety. Yes, that
1:18:28
is a message to that presidents and
1:18:30
allied Republicans can lean into. This is
1:18:32
all about deterring the challenges. And
1:18:35
with keeping them overseas. So the divisions
1:18:37
in the Republican party or one thing,
1:18:39
there's also divisions in the Democratic party.
1:18:41
Ah, for instance of I want You
1:18:43
To take a listen to what Democratic
1:18:45
Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania told me
1:18:47
yesterday I he has been basic. He's
1:18:49
basically suggesting that he thinks President Biden
1:18:51
is to wobbly on Israel. Take a
1:18:53
listen. As
1:18:55
a Good really demonstrates how it's
1:18:57
astonishing that we are not or
1:19:00
stand firmly with Israel and there
1:19:02
should never be any kinds of
1:19:04
conditions. Moments when an issue can
1:19:06
launch, hundreds of drones are towards
1:19:08
Israel, and I'm not going to
1:19:10
be talking about conditions. Over.
1:19:13
New. President Biden has suggested and
1:19:15
others democrats are right saying
1:19:18
there needs to be conditions
1:19:20
attached to any a future
1:19:22
military aid for Israel. You
1:19:24
know I think that this is a very
1:19:27
difficult line that by them have to walk
1:19:29
because he's going to as alienate people on
1:19:31
his side either way like they are people
1:19:33
on the far left that are saying and
1:19:36
in places like miss again are saying they
1:19:38
will not turn out as as live on
1:19:40
five and has not said up enough for
1:19:43
the Palestinians in Gaza and stood up against
1:19:45
what is happening within another places like some
1:19:47
Sylvania he's gonna say that plus fact that
1:19:49
he is not support of money off of
1:19:52
Israel he has tried to walk the line.
1:19:54
I don't know how successful way he
1:19:56
has been and at the same time
1:19:58
he has had Israel. Oh you know,
1:20:00
and even that attack on the consulate
1:20:02
that led to this Iranian the tax.
1:20:04
I mean you've had these difficulties where
1:20:06
you can see that the Us to
1:20:09
say Israel can you pull back and
1:20:11
you do this he do something differently
1:20:13
and they're not necessarily getting that support
1:20:15
from that allied. So I think that
1:20:17
it's a relationship that they've had some
1:20:19
difficulties. Well or thanks to all of you,
1:20:21
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members of test with global saffron.
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for cost reductions and increasing productivity.
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thinking? Lead our national lead. Check
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out this video of to as
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yet identified visitors to the lake.
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Me that National Recreation Area along
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the Arizona Nevada border as they vandalize
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rock formations, shoving wide slabs off of
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them to watch them smash apart on
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the ground below. What a bunch of
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idiots rock formations are on our merely
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around a hundred forty million years old.
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The damage of course irreversible. Park rangers
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are so angry they release this on
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blurred and photo of the vandals for
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the public can help identify them and
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bring them for justice a look
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like getting when you know and are
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worldly. The findings of a new review of
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the actions Us troops in Afghanistan took leading
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up to the deadly Abby Gate Bombing and
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Twenty Twenty One. Thirteen. You
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Are service members were killed tragically
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in that last with cemented in
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the eyes of the world just
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how chaotic America's withdraw from Afghanistan
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was seen. As Natasha vert ramps
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oranges now from the Pentagon and
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Natasha the biggest finding reveals whether
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Us troops actually saw the suicide
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bomber before the attack. Tell us
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more. Yeah, take this review.
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Interviewed over a hundred and ninety people. The
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caught a couple months and what it found
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is that he started members. Many of whom
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have said since last year that they
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believe they didn't see that bomber and
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had the opportunity to take him out
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before he actually detonated that bomb. Actually
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did not add those service members did
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not in fact see the individual for
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with ultimately deem to be responsible for
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that deadly farming His name is Abdul
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Rahman allegory as he is a member
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of Isis Kagan He was as the
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and and previously reported released or by
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the Taliban as part of a prison
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break. the days before the fall of
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Kabul you seem their on your screen.
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Now so many service members including one
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at Sergeant Howler Vargas Andrew the Marine
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Corps sniper or who testified last year
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about this had identified someone that has
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been described the news reports as the
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bald man in black as the individual
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who was suspected to be on that
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bomber. You can see him right there
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on the screen in the middle. There
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he turns out a cordless exhaustive review
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books by by the Us military the
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he was not the one who ultimately
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carried out that attacks and that the
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identification of. Him by some of these
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Marine Corps snipers with the result of
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conflating two different pieces of intelligence. In
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fact the real Isis K bomber did
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not show up until just several hours
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before that Deadly Advocate bombing when in
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fact the bald men in black was
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identified about seven hours a prior to
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that attack. and so you see clearly
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that the of that the military is
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trying to address these concerns that they
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could have prevented this up but clearly
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according to military the could not. Have
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so it's Acid are also questions about
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a marine battalion commander on cited Abigail.
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And. Whether he understood the rules of engagement to
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the report, look into them. This
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is another complaints that some sniper a Marine
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Corps Cyprus had which is that they
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informed over time commander about that bald man
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in black and saying that they wanted to
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engage him. It was not clear what
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the response of the battalion commander wise to
1:23:53
that requests but of course ultimately that shot
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with not taken. However the military says
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that the battalion commander understood very well. What
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the rules of engagement where and that There is no evidence
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to the. Contrary Jokes or I Natasha Bertrand at
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