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Upskilling. You might now think, well, what's upskilling? And that's exactly what we're going
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to talk about today. There are new studies available, the CEO study and the WEF, the World Economic
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Forum study, where we focus on upskilling as the key aspect you have to take care of to develop
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your company sustainably. Well, we now have to well, all all we know right now is that we have
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to fight for talent, and the fight for talent is ongoing. There is not even remotely inside
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that this is going to get better. And Pricewater, how Coopers did the annual CEO study about
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what are the major challenges, the major problems, the major situations you face, the major
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issues you see as a CEO to develop your company sustainably, successfully for the future. And,
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of course, the World Economic Forum, the WEF, backs the whole aspect of this, the whole study
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of that with their own data. So we're not talking about opinions here. If you disagree with
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what I say here, you disagree with facts. And that means you are in science denial, which is
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never a good look and also not a wise choice when you want to develop any organization into
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any one of the most important aspects for the future. However, what does that mean? And just
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to be sure, when I talk about the PwC, the PricewaterhouseCoopers CEO study about the major
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challenges and situations and issues we see, I'm going to put a link in the show notes of this
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podcast so you can read the full study. There is a lot more in there than I can mention in the
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short 10 to 15 minutes we have every week in our podcast. And what I mentioned here, the main
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issues I am going to talk about are only the aspects which were mentioned under they will have
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influence to a large extent or to a very large extent on the future, towards the future of that
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organisation. So we are only going to talk about the very and most important issues that we
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see in this today's free enterprise economic world. And, of course, the same applies to the
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public service because they face the same shortage of talent and workforce. Issue number 1 is
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seen with regulatory and compliance. And, of course, we have a rising number which doesn't which
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had which doesn't show a linear but an exponential growth on regulation. We have more rules
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and praise. If you now say the the solution to that is having less rules, good luck. There's
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not a single point that points there's not a single aspect that points towards the direction
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markets. We will have more regulatory, more compliance in place. And, of course, what do you
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need to do there? You need qualified people to fulfill the demands of a rising regulatory and
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compliance oriented world? The second aspect, which is a major challenge, is prioritization.
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You know that you have probably a lot of different aspects on your plate and you need to be
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able to prioritise while at the same time getting straight to aspect number 3. You have limited
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resources. So you need to be able to fulfill all those limited resources, going to aspect number
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5, while you have a workforce that often lacks certain skills that you need. Often, employers
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complain where they say, we get some applicants. However, they lack the skills that we need.
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Going to the 6th aspect here or to the, 5th aspect here, that they lack the tech abilities.
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Even if you want to work more efficiently, you need to know how to use certain tools. You need
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a certain affinity or at least a certain aspect of learning towards tech. And often people lack
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the skills they need here. Last but not least on that, on the top answers. Number 6 is bureaucracy.
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Special greetings to Germany here, probably leader in Europe in bureaucracy. However, others
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other countries aren't doing too much better. And of course, you need to be able to deal with
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bureaucracy. So you need to work very precisely because, you know, when you fail to address
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the issues of democracy, the only thing you get back is a letter where says, Sorry. You completed
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the form incorrectly. Please restart here. The question is, how do you deal with that? And if
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we look into this, what do you need for regulatory and compliance? You need people who who learn,
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who are qualified to fulfill the demands of regulatory and compliance. When it comes to prioritization,
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what do we need? Well, people need to be able to prioritize from time management to task management
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to delegation to communication to conflict management to project management, and whatnot else.
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They need to learn that. When we talk about limited resources, you need to talk about time management
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and multi project management, all of that needs to be learned. Very obviously, the form of aspect,
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the workforce skills that are lacking, you need to learn these skills. Number 5, the missing
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tech abilities, you need to learn these abilities. And number 6, you need to learn how to deal
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with bureaucracy because it's it's very sure that it's not going away. It is not going away
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anyway soon. And, of course, now some companies will immediately say, well, I think we do a
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lot for our employees. I'll just give you a couple of examples. And by the way, what I tell
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you now is a real world example. Some Some people say, Well, we do a lot of health and safety
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training. And, we do a lot of training on fire protection and about data protection and GDPR.
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And we also do all the 1st aid training. And, people learn the SAP and ERP software that we
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use in our company. And, of course, we also, for example, have communication and conflict management
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training. And all of what you just heard from work health and safety, to fire protection, to
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data protection GDPR, to Fird A training, to ERP software, for example, SAP, to conflict, to
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communication conflict management training. All of these 6, only one of them is a learning offer.
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And that is new to many organizations. We that often when you claim you do so much for your
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employees, we have so many learning offers available. Often, the learning offers are not really
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learning offers because most leaders, even senior executives, often struggle to define what
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is a learning offer. So we are going to define this before we get to the WEF, the World Economic
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Forum study, and their data on the matter. So what are the what are the aspects you need to
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fulfill to have a learning offer? Number 1 is it must be voluntary. When you talk about health
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and safety, not voluntary. If someone says, oh, sorry. I'm not doing this training because I
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don't like it. It's a bit boring. You still send them that because, you know, it's obligatory.
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If someone says, fire protection, no. I've seen YouTube videos. I think I know all that. No.
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You have to do it. Data protection training, obligatory. First aid training, you need to have
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a certain number of people who are able to deliver first aid just in case. So all of these are
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not voluntary. So as soon as a training is not voluntary, it is not a learning offer. That is
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the first aspect, voluntariness. Anything you'd offer as a proper learning offer is voluntary.
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The second aspect, when you say, well, the ERP model and the communication conflict management
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training, these are learning offers. Well, one of them is. The other one, not so much. Better
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to say, not at all. When you tell people you have to learn the ERP system, that's a system they
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need to master for work. It's basic qualification. The demands of the workplace in which and
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that means you have certain expectations that they are able to master the software. And that
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means the second aspect is, are you able to transfer the knowledge to another organization?
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Of course, you could now claim well, others, When we use SAP, others use SAP as well. Anyone
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who has used SAP for 15 minutes or longer knows that SAP or any ERP any good ERP software is
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highly tailored highly tailored to your demands. And if you are unable to transfer the knowledge
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from a to b, for example, to another organization, then people will say, well, that's not really
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a learning offer. It is something I need for work. And they are right with claiming that. I'm
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a self employed entrepreneur, so I'm not re representing a workers' council here. I am always
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more pro employer, obviously. So I have to display my own personal bias here. But when people
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learn something they need for work, please don't tell them, oh, we did so much for you. No,
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you didn't. You simply qualify them on a level that that they need to be qualified. And learning
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an ERP module, for example, SAP, when you go to a different company, you will see the same software,
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which is then completely tailored to their demands. Processes are completely different. You
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nearly have to learn from scratch. Not a 100% but 95%, depending on the amount of tailoring
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that happened. So number 1, everything must be voluntary. Number 2, the knowledge needs to be
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transferable. And number 3, and that's the personal benefit. If all of we get together, voluntary
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participation, transferability of knowledge, and personal benefit. When you, for example, take
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a class on communication and conflict management, you can use that absolutely anywhere. I'll
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give you an example. When you say communication conflict management, you need that in the workplace.
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Yep. And you need it at home. Correct. You need it in your football, golf, basketball, baseball,
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your dog's or children's sports club or wherever else. You need it as soon as you leave the
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house where you probably do not live on your own, or you at least have neighbors or some friends.
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So when you have anyone around you, you will see that communication and conflict management
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will have an advantage for you if you get additional training on that. So of all the aspects
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I mentioned, from work and safety to fire protection to data protection GDPR to first aid, ERP
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module, and last but not least, the communication and conflict management training. Only the
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last one is a learning offer because it combines 1, voluntary participation. 2, the knowledge
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can be transferred. And 3rd, there's a personal benefit. And one aspect I need to add because
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I've seen it way too often now. When you, for example, pay for someone's bachelor's degree,
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master's degree, personal certification, if it's IT or out of IT certification, do not put them
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in front of a paper where you tell them, well, if you want to have that qualification and we
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pay for that, Please sign this paper that you need to stay here for the next 2 years with no
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salary raise. If you still use these papers, I can tell you there is a lot, bad stuff about
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that. I I can give you, by the way, personal statements in in a minute about people who faced
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that situation, what they did afterwards. And there there are a couple of reasons why you shouldn't
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put people into the situation to say, you have to tie yourself to the organization. Of of course,
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you want that they stay. And it's your job to make them stay. If you tell them sign this piece
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of paper so you must stay, You have a couple of issues here. Number 1, you openly communicate
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that you do not trust them. Because otherwise, you wouldn't put this paper on the table. You
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openly communicate that you do not trust them at all. There might be many reasons for that.
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The question is why do you then still qualify them if you obviously do not trust them? If you,
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for whatever reason, do not have trust in someone, then maybe you should think about this distrust.
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This this this level of mistrust probably is not a good foundation for a future relationship
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in a work setting. So number 1, you openly communicate. You do not trust them when you put this
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piece of paper on the table where you say, tie yourself to the organization no matter what.
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The second aspect is, in Europe, especially, we have the right to choose our employers wherever
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we want in the European Union. So please check if you're complying with the laws of your country.
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In most countries, you will not be compliant. And 3rd, by the way, you cannot force people to
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work there. If you force someone to work with you when they are already in their mind, quit
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with you, they will either call in sick or they will go to press or on social media and say,
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look, this is how this employer deals with me, and you're not going to win this discussion.
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So if you still have papers in place where people have to sign that they stay in the organization,
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stop doing that. It is simply bad leadership. You have to take care that their circumstances
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are good enough that they stay, and that is your job as a leader. Getting to the World Economic
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Forum, and I'm also gonna put a link in the show notes so you can see the World Economic Forum
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studies as well. 49% of the people in the workforce at the moment are working in a field where
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they were not primarily qualified for. And that is good news. And, of course, the message here
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is not that education is useless. People who have the formal qualification are productive a
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lot quicker. However, when you say and there are certain fields where you can't show tolerances.
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When you have a dentist, someone cannot say, well, I watch a lot of YouTube videos, and I really
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like to be a dentist. So where's my first patient? That wouldn't work. It is not possible. But
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in many other fields, you can have a certain flexibility. When people move into a certain field,
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you have more work force available, which in most areas is a prerequisite to actually fulfill
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the needs of the workforce you have right now if you're not already understaffed while listening
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to this. 49% of the people working at the moment are working in a field where they were not
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primarily qualified for. That means you have to qualify them afterwards because otherwise, they
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will do too many mistakes. And they, of course, when they haven't worked there in the first
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place, need to be professionally qualified by you or external professional trainers. More than
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100,000,000 people, according to the World Economic Forum, can get into the workforce if we
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take a skills first approach. The skills first approach means you see that someone is able to
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do the job. You see that someone is willing to do the job. You move them into the field and
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then professionally qualify them. What you do not do is you move them into the field, push them
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in there and say, good luck from here, have high expectations and do low investments. That is
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a ticking time bomb in your organization. 100,000,000 people can get into work by a skills first
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approach. So adopt this as quickly as possible. Adapt this as quickly as possible to your organization
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because it is your job to do so. It is the employer's job to do so. The the scarcity of talent,
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the scarcity of workforce, and the scarcity maybe of other resources as well, just put a focus
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on employer. We know there were different times, and you happily accepted the times when it
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was completely different and the tables now turned. So please do not complain about what you
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see right now. You didn't address the possible positive situation that you had in the nineties,
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early 2000s where you had an abundance of workforce you could choose from. You now have to live
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with the different wave. Every wave that goes up in your favor goes down against you. It's an
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up and down and that will not stop. And by the way, if you think, oh, there is so much regulation,
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there's so much going on and now this skills for us approach, what's next? Well, when you are
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in the UK, you probably know this already. The UK now agreed on a law. And the law includes
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the right for flexibility. You have a right for flexible work from day 1, not after 6 months
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as it was before from day 1. From day 1, you have a right to work flexibly, work from home,
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maybe work from anywhere depending on the legal situation of what you do and the possibilities,
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of course, of what you do. Of course, have flexible hours, which are compatible with either
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your family, your children, and what else might be necessary to to be taken into account. The
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right for flexibility was agreed by a by an unreconstructed conservative government. So when
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they agree on such a law, I can tell you that this will arrive in many other countries as well.
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And by the way, when you now say, oh, in my country, they won't. There is a global workforce
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with remote work. So anyone with an Internet access is able to leave your organization at the
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tip of their fingers with a couple of mouse clicks. So when you think you don't have to face
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the remote working world, you have to Because it is very important to see that globalization
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is not a one way street. It means that you now have to look into what upskilling really is.
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And upskilling is a part of the future of work. Upskilling is the employer's task. And upskilling
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means that you proactively engage in getting better skills and more skills into the existing
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workforce no matter how long they are with you. That applies for the people who are very new
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to your workforce as well to the people who are with you for 30 years. And by the way, if you
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now think, well, I'm taking the cheap approach, our so called trainers, someone who knows someone
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who knows someone who does it for a couple of dollars, cash in the hand, good luck with that.
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Of course, people will leave your organisation when you do not have professionally qualified
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trainers. Just to give you a rough guideline, senior professionals as a trainer roughly work
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for a daily rate from about 3, 3 and a half $1,000. That is the general starting rate in Europe.
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In the US, it's a lot higher due to the cost of living, health care, the risk they have, etcetera.
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So when you when you buy anyone cheaper than that, you will not get any professional anywhere.
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And, of course, your people know that. Your people see that. They will talk about this and they
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will act accordingly. When you go cheap, they go cheap. When you expect a lot, you have to hire
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professionals because only then you can justify that you have high demands towards them. Upskilling
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means that you take a proactive approach on putting more skills, better skills, and extending
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the skills of your existing and future workforce. And the task to implement that is now. And
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while the time to implement that is now, you, of course, might have a couple of questions marks
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a question marks now. And, thank you very much for the last week where we received a lot of
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emails or I I received a lot of emails. Feel free to contact me anytime. Nbnbhyphennetworks.com
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is my email address. I will also put that in the show notes of this podcast. Feel free to send
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me any question, and I will get back to you within 24 hours. I always answer messages within
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24 hours. Of course, when you want to have something very specific, trading, speaking, coaching
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on the matter or any matter around that topic or any other topic in the leadership area, let
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It's a 100% content at free guarantee. And then we take it from there. And I look forward to
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being in touch with you. The 3rd aspect, however, is the most important one. Apply, apply, apply
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what you heard in this podcast. Because only when you apply what you heard, you will see the
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positive aspect of what you obviously want to see as a positive change in your organization
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because otherwise you wouldn't sit here listening to me for the last 15 minutes. I wish you
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all the best. Let me know if I can help. I'm available for you 247. And at the end of this podcast,
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there is only one thing left for me to say. Thank you very much for your time.
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