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Nerds and geeks. I hope you are ready, because we are back at

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it again. It is the legendary nerds of the nerd around Table. I

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was gonna say Friday nights, but we're getting it out on a Sunday.

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Why because even though the Lord is resting, the nerds are hard at work

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to get into who knows what. We got some X men ninety seven.

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We've got Boothbusters, we've got the Outhouse, the Roadhouse remix. We got

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so much to get into. First and foremost, gotta welcome the crew back

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to the round Table. The one and only Mo Kelly in the building.

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How you doing, good sir, It's good to be back. It's good to see all you nerds and nerd adds. We have a lot of shit

1:15

to talk. And if you can see in my name, handle up Roadhouse

1:19

sucks ass. Let's just put that out there. We'll get back to that

1:22

in a moment. Saying loud as usual, the one and only Tom is

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talking cutting hand would do good sir. Hello everybody, how's everybody doing?

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And the Gwinevere of the Roundtable, who's been fighting to get the nerds back,

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get the source out and let us do battle. With all of these

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conversations Doctor Liz from the Freeway, How you doing, girl? Hi Strangers

1:52

M She's got that lag. I love it, I know all right.

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I was hoping that either Anthony from Two Cubicles Down or twitch Master Ryan mcbang

2:06

would be here because I wanted to get their take on X Men ninety seven.

2:12

That seems to be the biggest thing that is hitting the nerd verse right

2:15

now. Everyone has been waiting for this from their childhood to get this series

2:21

back up and running. When Disney Plus first announced it was coming and it

2:23

was a direct sequel to where the series left off, everyone is super excited.

2:29

Except for individuals like me. Why because I was not a humongous fan

2:34

of the X Men animated series. Why because it took way too many liberties

2:39

and just absolutely bastardizing the comic book that I grew up loving. My garage

2:46

is full of X Men going back to like nineteen eighty three. I've been

2:51

collecting X Men comic books and I'm a hardcore X Men fan. All of

2:54

the spinoffs, with the exception the X Factor. Wasn't a fan of X

2:58

Factor, and I didn't really like one other series the whatever the fuck the

3:07

one with the dupe and all them and then like yeah, X Force.

3:12

Yeah, But I didn't like when they went there. I like the old

3:15

school, so when they started getting weird, that shit bothered me. But

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I love X Men, and I thought that what the X Men ninety seven

3:23

or even the original X Men animated series did, I thought they did what

3:29

Current Fox does with the films is that they own the IP and so they're

3:34

just throwing out different titles in different storylines and just mixing up what happened in

3:38

the story, throwing in characters that never interacted. And for me, I'm

3:42

unfortunately I'm an X Men piis. So the animated series always bothered me.

3:46

I never even finished watching it. I tuned in to watch the first episode

3:51

of this X Men ninety seven and I said, Okay, this is boring

3:55

as shit. The voice is sound off, this is silly. The inter

4:00

action between the characters like what am I watching here? But again, I'm

4:04

way too hard on it. I know it's hard being the purest watching things

4:09

like this. But doctor Liz, back in the day, were you a

4:12

fan of the X Men and animated series? Okay, so I don't know

4:24

the voices, the voices aren't great. Magneto's voice is fine. I think

4:29

Magneto has the right kind of gravitas to carry that character, and Scott's is

4:33

okay. But the people who like you expect Wolverine to have kind of a

4:41

gruff sounding voice, and it sounds me And Rogue sounds like she's trying to

4:47

imitate the person who did rogue Southern accent in the first series. But imitating

4:53

an imitator is just it just doesn't sound right. And then Gambit, they

4:57

never get a They never so you know, the Beast sounds okay, Jubilee,

5:02

who cares how she sounds? Erberto Dicasa, he sounds okay. I

5:06

will say this, I was not a super fan of the cartoon that in

5:14

you know, ninety seven because of some of the reasons that you were saying, Twala, I love the X Men, and anything that kind of cheapened

5:20

the stories I didn't really like, and I didn't like that it was kind

5:26

of a lot of the old school Magneto is just against humans and all that.

5:30

I didn't really go for that, and a lot of se stuff,

5:34

and I wasn't as much into the anti mutant. I understand that that was

5:38

the driving thrust of the whole thing, but that part of it never really

5:41

appealed to me. And so when I saw this one and it had the

5:46

exact same opening sequence with those cheesy, corny fonts, I was like,

5:48

oh, see this is this is. But I will say by the second

5:56

episode, where Magneto kind of takes center stage, it was a lot better.

6:00

And that Cyclops landing b as he did with the dam Advice ship,

6:05

I was I've never seen her do that comic book ever. But that as

6:14

much as I don't like the X Men movies for a number of different reasons,

6:18

I think the casting of Magneto and Xavier is just so good that it's

6:27

hard for me to watch. At least this Magneto. Are you talking about

6:31

the live action versus I mean, just like the way that his like he

6:35

has flowing hair that's from the comic books. Though I know suit, I

6:41

don't know that I love the new suit, but I remember the new suit

6:44

for the trial, so I appreciate. I didn't like I. I did

6:53

like the dude who plays the younger Magneto. Yeah, I like him.

7:00

I didn't particularly care for McAvoy, but of course everybody loves John. You

7:04

know, I think I didn't like McAvoy because of the hair. I didn't

7:08

like McAvoy because he could walk out of the three out of the four movies

7:11

or whatever, and I just didn't for some of the reasons Swallow that you

7:15

kind of like didn't attached to it. I didn't attach to the live action.

7:19

But I gotta say, I am anxious to see what episode three brings.

7:24

I am. I am aled in and I'm looking forward to it in

7:28

a way that I didn't expect to be based on me not really liking the

7:33

original series and like and seeing the first episode and I was like, these

7:38

character models haven't been updated. The dialogue is still corny. I just but

7:42

then by the time we got into that second episode and Magneto had pulled those

7:46

those senators up into the near earth atmosphere, I was like, okay,

7:50

see, oh, I'll go back and watch it, because literally I got

7:56

tired when he came in and was like, is you see if you read

8:00

Charles Xavier's Last Will and Testament, everything x his mind And I was like,

8:07

click, good night, I'm going to sleep. See he really didn't.

8:13

He showed a lot more restraint in that second episode, especially dealing with

8:18

like what he was dealing with, and so you got it. I didn't

8:22

see him as cackling and sinister. I saw him really through the lens of

8:26

the Magneto, who actually did have to step in for Charles when he went

8:31

away into space, which he was in space. Guys, he's not dead,

8:37

so he's off the planet, but he's not dead, so last Will

8:41

and Testament and all that shit. I mean, you know whatever. I

8:43

like the way Scott is Scott for the first time, perhaps is running it

8:48

like a boss, and so you know, it's like I say, I'm

8:54

anxious to see the next episode. Yeah. See, I think this is

8:58

indicative of your entry point to the series. If you were coming from the

9:01

comic books, you probably didn't like the original X Men animated series, and

9:07

you're not gonna like this, which is a continuation of that animated series.

9:11

I was basically introduced to the X Men through the animated series, and so

9:16

when I saw X Men ninety seven, and it is very much in concert

9:20

with pre X Men ninety seven, it's a continuation of the storyline. It's

9:26

a it's a continuation. Like Tom was saying, as far as the font

9:28

and the and the and the animation sensibilities of that time, it's like,

9:35

yeah, I'm in. I'm right back in now. I didn't necessarily like

9:39

some of the voice choices, but when you're talking twenty five fucking years,

9:45

okay, okay, you know, it's sounded like I was listening to Reba

9:48

McIntyre and I said, why is Reba in this? It's like, oh,

9:52

okay, you know right. It's a force. That's But as far

10:00

as the story that they're telling picking up from the quote unquote death of Charles

10:05

Xavier, yes, I'm all in because I feel I can go back and

10:09

watch the first five seasons and then, you know, and be really up

10:13

to date with what's going on, and because I've missed some of the nuances.

10:18

So I'm good with it what I've seen that's share, except I think

10:24

that the updated Storm isn't isn't great. I've always liked mohawks Storm. I

10:37

liked mohawks Storm in her black outfit versus I've never liked Storm in the white

10:41

outfit, never life. When they first introduced Storm with the mohawk, that

10:48

was one of the most sold X Men covers. When they first did that,

10:52

and I loved that Storm because that was around the time of the Morlock

10:58

massacre and all that was really when she really bossed up and you started seeing

11:03

how powerful Storm was, and the comic books was around that time, that

11:05

transformation of her owning herself and saying, you know, like a like a

11:11

Salon song, I'm not my hair. Look, I don't mind this.

11:15

Look I wanted a little more. To me, I don't get their inclusion

11:22

in Bishop. But again I did not finish watching the original serious, So

11:26

so for me, I'm watching right now and I'm like, why the fuck

11:31

is Bishop in this show? What's happening? Bishop was never a part of

11:35

an X Men lineup? With this team? How is Bishop in this?

11:41

Why is he? Just like, let me ask Okay, so again I

11:46

need to go back and watch the animated series. Okay, let me ask

11:50

this to Wala. Why does this bother you? Or did Days of Future

11:52

Past bother you as well? For the same ROAs as movie, Yes,

11:56

oh, the all of the X Men movies. I hated I have done

12:01

that was asked that that is calling that Day is the Future Past is disrespectful

12:05

to the comic title. It was. It was almost I mean if you

12:11

open up the editionary and look up Bastardization, it's that film. It's like

12:16

example, Fox's x Men Days, the Future Past, every x Men film

12:20

that that Fox put out, the Phoenix saga that they tried to do in

12:24

the last one, all of those stories. It's like, just because you

12:28

own the rights to the stories, there are certain stories you cannot tell within

12:33

a film because the comic books you're talking months of collecting, you're talking cross

12:39

if there's way too much that went into every x Men story. Most hardcore

12:43

x Men fans will tell you you cannot do an x Men film based on

12:48

any comic story. You just can't. You're gonna have to start and just

12:50

do your own story because all of the stories are so intricately woven into the

12:54

fabric of who the X Men are. I don't care which storyline you take,

12:58

it's not gonna be right in a film. Any s Men story you

13:03

take is gonna have to be told across the series. And so every Fox

13:07

film, the change that they made in the first one, throwing them in

13:11

this black leather, all of that, all of that just bothered me to

13:13

no end. And I get that Hugh Jackman is now who we call Wolverine,

13:18

and he's beloved at but he's not Wolverine. Wolverine has always been a

13:22

short stocky, you know, Harry Bastard. So you put some tall,

13:28

suave ass do to me. I looked at that, and I'm like,

13:30

okay, this is a movie. All of those things made it hard for

13:33

me to watch the movies and actually hate the Fox film universe all that much

13:37

more. The first time Fox did anything decent and actually a comic actorate is

13:45

dead Pools. Why I like Deadpool so much? People may not love the

13:48

Deadpool character, but that character is literally peeled off the pages of the comic

13:54

books and put on screen. From the actor to the stories that they're telling,

13:58

it's pitch perfect versus all these other ones. It's just like, well,

14:03

we own the rights to this story. Let's do it. Let's bring in like the like when they brought in and when they did the Origins films

14:09

and they brought in Homegirl Zoe Kravis to play uh uh Zoe. She played

14:20

Angel. Angel. To me, I'm like, but that was a different

14:24

that was a different angel than that what's his name? Angel? That angel

14:28

does exist? No, no, no, no, I know that Angel

14:31

exists, but that angel does not exist in any lineup of X Men early

14:35

editions. There is no angel. The angel that they introduced is way way

14:41

way late into the comic book universe. By the time they introduced that angel

14:45

and Beak and all those characters that that's after, you know, you get

14:48

a Professor Xavier's twin sister coming back to shit like that there. So,

14:54

to me, that's the problem when you have these characters and you put them

14:56

into a film the exact same as if you have what's his name being killed?

15:03

To me, that that is that is ridiculous. I agree with is

15:09

that X Men the cartoon back, you know, with the previous five seasons.

15:16

To me, it was like a saga. It was a it was

15:22

a if you if you're introduced to X Men, not through the comic books,

15:26

you're introduced to a cartoon that is like a soap opera, and it

15:33

is a literal and it was it was highly entertaining. Every season connected with

15:39

each other, Unlike some of the other cartoons that kind of would just hop

15:43

around all over the place. It was an absolute sequel of events. And

15:50

so it's kind of cool to see that this is picking up exactly where that

15:56

dropped off. M okay, And on that note, Liz picking up where

16:03

exactly where something left off? I don't know, Tom. Did you see

16:08

Ghostbusters Frozen Empire? Have you seen it? I have not? All right,

16:17

Liz, have you seen it? Okay? If you liked anything about

16:23

the last Ghostbusters reboot film, I can promise you this, you will absolutely,

16:30

positively love Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. All right, Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, they

16:37

go deeper with the connections to the original storyline, this story from the trailer,

16:45

and to me, it's bothersome because the trailers, the trailers, they

16:49

do not they do not tell the story that's being told in the film.

16:56

What the trailers are so off, they're so off putting. Because you watched

17:00

this film, You're like, why did they not do a trailer that better

17:03

explains what this film is about. There's so much happening in this film and

17:07

it is so well done. The acting, the storyline, the easter eggs,

17:12

the connectivity with the original actors, this ship is great. It was

17:17

one of the best times and I've had in the movies in a minute,

17:21

it was fun. Uh And the one thing that was interesting about him on

17:25

I think you'll appreciate this is while while there were jokes, you know,

17:29

Paul Rudd, that's what he does, but they were they were very muted.

17:33

It wasn't ha ha ha ha ha all the time. But this film

17:37

had some serious, serious shit happening. There was almost some some jumps and

17:41

some scares. I said, oh shit, okay, like there was there

17:44

was some of that, some really tense moments, and so I'm like,

17:47

wow, they kicked it up a notch with this Ghostbuster films. You felt,

17:52

again, this is yes, it's kids and shit like that, but

17:55

there was tension and it was a serious film. It was siri. The

17:59

the things that were happening were very serious throughout. It was like it started

18:03

off with like some oh shit, well that was grim, like this is

18:07

is this gonna be a fun film because that was really really dark. Yeah,

18:11

you know, I actually loved it even And the thing I love the

18:15

most is that it's really introducing kids or younger generation to a series that they

18:22

probably may not have been as familiar with because it doesn't Ghostbusters doesn't play on

18:30

television, It doesn't play on repeat like it did, you know when I

18:34

was younger. So it's reintroducing them to a whole new thing to where they're

18:40

absolutely gonna want to go back. This movie makes you want to go back

18:44

and at least watch the first one, so that the first Ghostbusters, because

18:51

I can tell when I was in the packed movie theater that the children,

18:56

that the children did not pick up on the jokes that the older So you

19:03

can completely see the kids' response to something and the adults response to something,

19:11

because they'll throw a nostalgic thing, not when you expected. Yeah. And

19:15

my daughter and even my son, they you know, because I'm always putting

19:21

them up on the old school. They absolutely loved the Ghostbusters. They loved

19:26

Ghostbusters. Who weren't a fan of the Ladies Ghostbusters, but they did like

19:32

the Ghostbusters Red. But they liked a lot. That's why we were in the theater, you know, yesterday seeing it. They absolutely And there were

19:38

things that my daughter picked up on. There were Easter eggs that she picked

19:41

up and she was like, oh my god, Daddy, like you didn't

19:45

respond when like this and that and the other happened. I'm like, oh

19:47

shit, I didn't even remember that. She's like, see because she had watched it just recently, Like you know. So there are certain things that

19:53

if you know the first Ghostbusters film, you'll you will be rewarded by Why

20:00

let me tell you what the best thing about this and it's the same thing

20:03

as Super Brother Super Mario Brothers did. They brought in all the commercials that

20:08

were taking place at the time. Remember when they now all the Ghostbusters had

20:15

their own cereal Ghostbusters had like the game like. They brought in all the

20:21

O G commercials into the movie that just like Super Mario Brothers did, which

20:26

made me even chuckle that much more. But yeah, no, it's a

20:30

good it's a good time and those commercials. But the way they wove them

20:33

into the film, it's like you remember them when the original ghostpurs came out

20:37

and all the hype surrounding it. They brought all that stuff into the film

20:41

to make it like that much more of reality. It's almost as if they're

20:47

saying, no, all of this had the Ghostbusters world. It exists,

20:51

and you know it will because you know these commercials, you know, Ray

20:53

Parker Junior and the Ghostbuster song, so you put that in the film is

20:56

like as the thing that people remember about the Ghostbusters. They had a song,

21:02

you know, saying, you're like, Yo, this is brilliant, brilliantly written, brilliant. That man is gonna still continue to gig again,

21:11

make that much more money off of his one song Oh yeah, oh yeah,

21:15

Wait a minute, Ray Parker first, he had more than one and

21:19

Ray Parker owes his Ghostbuster money to huey Uh Lewis Lewis and yes, I

21:26

want new drug. Yeah he had. He had I Think I'm in Love

21:34

with the Other woman and yes, a woman needs love just like you.

21:45

One song no no to non black folks. Right, they had a whole

21:52

bunch of hits. Li was a little bit older than you and why because

21:56

we were already familiar with Ray Parker junior. Yeah that song when he when

22:02

Ghostbusters. Yeah, like like when he came into Ghostbusters, we were like,

22:06

man, they got Ray Perker, You're you're in this, you know, saying it was more of like of y'all they pulled him in, Tom

22:11

you got me going now. I love just one song, I don't think.

22:19

Yeah, the kids he had, he had a couple of He had

22:23

a couple of songs, you know he did. He was as much as

22:30

this movie was nice, it's a through line the black girl in this movie

22:37

who used to be Tyler Perry Movies is also in Madam Web is assist God.

22:48

Okay, well, I'm glad. I'm glad you got this. Web.

22:52

I'm glad you got this because that Madam Web is absolute as absolute wonders

22:59

your percent as you cannot escape it. It's ass Oh. We do have

23:04

a message. Robert from LA wants you to weigh in on this, especially

23:08

you mo sharing your thoughts on the passing of Dragon Ball Creatorama since the last

23:14

show. His passing absolutely shook the anime world, uh to its core.

23:22

I think every you know, every Saturday night, me and my son are

23:26

watching anime, and and every creator, every show that we watch, everyone

23:33

has tributed or done at tribute uh to his passing, and you know,

23:38

has acknowledged him as essentially the godfather of the modern aunime. Uh. You

23:44

know, after speed Racer, it's Dragon and everyone is definitely you know,

23:49

seeing his praises. And he was and he was relatively young. I mean

23:52

this is not an no. No, I think he was in what late

23:59

fifty Yeah, so it's it is a loss and and and this is the

24:07

one thing that uh that my grandmother once told me. The older you get,

24:11

the more people, uh, you're gonna lose, you know, And

24:15

I think that, uh, that this is more more a case of that.

24:19

So you know, it's man, it is tough, and hopefully his

24:23

legacy lives on as it will because we know there's dragon Ball films coming out,

24:29

dragon Ball Action figures, more serious galore. Uh. So you know

24:33

that that's what you want as a creator. You want your legacy to live

24:37

on. You want that which you put out into the world to inspire others

24:42

and to be forever remembered. And I think you can't ask for anything more

24:45

than that unless you create Madam Webb. Yeah, ain't nobody gonna remember that?

24:52

No, no, no, no. From from Ghostbusters being an awesome

25:00

uh rebooting and reintroduction of the of the franchise to something that, from my

25:06

understanding, sucks absolute ass Jake Gillenhall's Roadhouse or some are calling it outouse,

25:12

some are calling it a hole dug in the ground for you to ship in.

25:18

But I don't know. I mean, I didn't see it yet.

25:21

I plan on watching it because I have to. As a nerve. We

25:25

watch everything, even begrudgingly. Shit, I will watch the second release of

25:30

that damn uh Zack Snyder star Wars ripoff when it comes to Netflix next month.

25:34

It doesn't matter for me, Rebel Moon. I saw the new trailer

25:40

and to me, I said, this is gonna be more shit, but whatever, I will watch it so I can trash on it with an informed

25:45

opinion. But Moe, you sat through Roadhouse. Wait where do we watch

25:52

it? I'm gonna watch it, Okay, you know you will. You

25:57

will not watch it on I'm not. I was. I was kind of

26:02

reflecting on this, and if you're under the age of forty, you don't

26:06

have any real first hand memory of the original in eighty nine, and that's

26:11

important. If you just come to this movie with no real affinity for the

26:17

nineteen eighty nine Patrick Swayze movie, then you'll probably enjoyed this as some actually

26:22

you know, paper brown bag, regular action movie that you're not paying eighteen

26:26

dollars for it. And that's okay, But when you stamp the title Roadhouse

26:30

on it, you are specifically speaking to people like me who know the original,

26:37

probably love the original, and you're trying to trade on that name and

26:41

the memory of Patrick swayzey to get people to watch this piece of shit,

26:45

and it was a piece of shit. And the reason was a piece of

26:48

shit is because you took the name from Roadhouse and left everything else. There's

26:53

no Brad Wesley. There is no intimidating hold on, hold hold on at

27:00

all. There is no Brad Wesley level villain in this film. No,

27:03

there is a villain who's just a rich, spoiled Brad. It could be

27:07

Eric Trump for all we know. There is no Brad Wesley type villain.

27:12

You don't get any real backstory on any of the characters, with the exception

27:17

of Jake Jillen Hall's Dalton. And if you know the original, the Dalton

27:22

was a philosophy major. He had a philosophy degree. He ended up doing

27:27

what he was doing, but he was much smarter and bigger and better than

27:32

his job. Jake, Jake Jung Hall is just a martial arts dude,

27:36

got his ass beat and he's you know, he's trying to find his way

27:40

in life, trying to find some meaning. But he's not all that deep. He's not all that smart and from he can handle people, he's got

27:47

skills, but there's nothing real deep to the story. And when you go

27:51

to the original you know that Jimmy the villain, the Hinchman, he has

27:56

a backstory. You find out Brad Wesley. You learned about his story growing

28:00

up on the streets of Chicago. Hell. I brought the photo back j

28:03

C. Pennies here because of me. There's no motive moments like that.

28:07

There's nothing. And I mentioned that, and I was watching it and it

28:11

was kind of reminiscent of the Karate Kid remake where think about the original Karate

28:15

Kid, every character had a personality, was meaningful, even if a Henchman

28:22

or whatever, but all of them had personalities and stood out. This is

28:26

the same thing here where you have Henchman, and if you remember the nineteen

28:30

eighty nine version, all the Hitchman had personalities from tiny all that you just

28:33

right, you knew that none of these guys matter. They're not important.

28:38

There is no way Garrett character the same. What are you telling me?

28:44

There is no secondary cooler? No, no, there's no one in this

28:49

film. Why do you call it roadhouse? I'll tell you this, this

28:52

is one thing I'll tell you in the movie. Jake Jdenhall's Dalton character specifically

28:57

asked, so, why do you call it road house? That's that's just

29:02

the name of the bar. So so this though so okay, because we

29:07

know there's no double Roadhouse was it was called the Roadhouse because it was on

29:11

the side of the road. This is just not this is not that is

29:17

it at least on the side of a road. It's on the side of a road. And there's a little small like convenience store. But you don't

29:26

have you don't have any of the real characters. You don't have like you're

29:29

not you don't have In the original there was a convenience store, yes,

29:36

and there was a character who ran the convenience store and he started dating the

29:40

daughter of the you know, the doctor in the convenience store. Okay,

29:44

that all that's gone. There's a convenience store, but there's a younger daughter.

29:48

He can't date the daughter because the daughter is like thirteen. So that's

29:52

out. There's there's really no Everything you loved about the original Roadhouse, if

29:56

you loved anything, all that shit is gone in this movie. So just

30:00

like you saw Creed three. If you're a fan of Michael B. Jordan,

30:06

that's fine. If you love anything about the nostalgia of Rocky you're not

30:11

gonna like you're not gonna like Creed three. So if you are a Jake

30:14

gillanoll fan or a Connor McGregor fan, you'll probably enjoyed the movie. It

30:21

has action sensibilities. But if you liked Roadhouse the original, there's nothing for

30:26

you to like about this movie. It's a total recall where they literally do

30:32

not go to Mars at all. It's no total recall. Was still a

30:37

better movie if they should just call it than This Roadhouse, the remake of

30:45

Total Recall. Yes, Colin Farrell, that was a better movie than This

30:51

Roadhouse if they if they call that movie shiits somewhere next to Mars, you

30:59

know ours adjacent, that would have been fine. They fucked up when they

31:03

call it total recall. This movie wasn't good enough to be in theaters.

31:07

It never was. I don't care what the director was talking about. It

31:11

was never good enough to be in theaters. I don't understand this trend of

31:21

taking movies that are somewhere in the consciousness of people in our generation but weren't

31:30

actual classics, Like if you're going to remake something like I understand why you

31:36

remade Doom right because the David Lynch version didn't satisfy doom purists. And you

31:41

had this guy Denis Villenove who is famous enough for his artsy space sci fi,

31:48

and the special effects are better now, and the special effects are a lot better, and so consequently I found the movie to be better, both

31:53

of them to be better. That I understand. Roadhouse is not one of

31:59

those. It's just like Red Dawn didn't need to be remade. It's like

32:02

Roadhouse is just not a movie where I'm like, can we get that done?

32:07

But Tom, if I could interrupt you, that's the corollary because Patrick

32:10

swayzey, they are cult classics. No one was asking for them to be

32:15

remade, nobody, and to put Jake Jillenhall in the role and see again

32:21

Mo kind of brings out some of the aspects of the original movie, which

32:24

I maybe he saw once. So I wasn't like one of those fans who

32:28

like would wait for it to come on HBO and I just sit down and pop pop some microwave popcorn and watch Patrick Swayze kick askwhall philosophizing. I just

32:36

didn't even understand how Jake Jillenhall got to be the dude to be Patrick Swayzee

32:42

like if you don't do that the film it looks like Jake Jillenhall, though

32:51

he was never like he's just ripped. Yeah, but he's not. He's

32:54

not smooth. He doesn't have at least the charisma. No, no,

33:00

not even he sounds like Jake jillens Hall. He acts like Jake jillen Hall,

33:06

the squeaky voice and all that. There's there's nothing look and this this

33:10

is better than the whole idea of Ronda Rousey doing the movie. So it

33:15

could have been much fucking well, yeah, that was that was the original,

33:19

the original see her and in the other Well that's why she didn't,

33:30

right, All I know is you don't make remake classics, and you don't

33:35

remake cult classics. For this reason, you called it roadhouse because you wanted

33:38

people in my age group, Tom's age group to come see the ship because

33:42

we like the original. And then you come see the original, I mean

33:45

the remake, and you realize there's nothing like the original. If they at

33:47

least gone beat by beat in a character sense, in a structure sense,

33:54

I could have accepted that. And then they just updated it. This has

33:59

nothing connected to the original. There's nothing like the original, but the original

34:04

when you think about the original story, the original story doesn't work in two

34:08

thousand and now, two thousand and now, you cannot have one dude lording

34:13

over a damn ball. You cannot have people getting arms broken and shot establish

34:17

it in the nightclub and the nightclub still be open in two thousand and now.

34:22

In the eighties, it was a little easier for that to fly in

34:24

a small town. There wasn't this thing called the Internet. There wasn't you

34:29

know, cameras out anytime something happened, anytime anywhere. Wait, it's worse

34:34

than that, Swalla, It's worse than that because he is one of these

34:37

top MMA UFC fighters in the world. Because in it they show him fighting

34:43

for the championship. Only one mother, only one motherfucking recognizes him in the

34:46

whole movie. You cannot have you cannot have an MMA Superstar, right Listen.

34:57

Part of the problem with doing these remakes now is that you can stream

35:01

the original Roadhouse on somebody's service, so you don't like before before Netflix and

35:09

everything else, you wouldn't have really a way except for a VHS tape or

35:14

a DVD or the Blu Ray Deluxe Swayzey just died edition of Roadhouse or whatever.

35:20

You'd have to dig it up. Now you can type in where the stream Roadhouse and you'll be able to watch it the way you remember it,

35:25

and it'll still be perfect to you. You can't just remake Ship for the

35:30

sake of there was this sliver of people who really like Patrick Swayzey and they're

35:36

gonna transfer their Swayzey love on the gill and law is he gonna do dirty

35:38

dancing four nets? Like? It just doesn't make any sense. Something Ghost

35:45

is being Channing Tatum is doing Ghost mind watching Channing you girl, Yeah,

36:00

that's not even necessary. Why would you go do go? Basically the same

36:04

year Roadhouse is eighty nine, Ghost is nineteen ninety. It's gonna happen where.

36:09

Okay, so who is the Whoopie character. That's assuming there is a

36:13

Whoopie character. You're making an assumption that the remake is going to she won

36:20

Yeah in Ghost. Yeah, you'd have to hurt her. I mean what

36:27

I mean, Look, if you're gonna redo Ghosts, if they redo Ghosts

36:30

and they have Whoopy Goldber come back as olimate again, I mean that would

36:35

okay, I would kind of. I might be doub that might work.

36:40

I can actually see Whoopy in that role still doing that role right right that

36:45

that would be the thing that would if you just try to say, throw

36:51

Wanda Sights up in there, because she's also irascible. Nah, yeah,

36:54

you know who Mike could do it? The who what's her name? Retta

37:00

from Parks and rec uh what nice girls? That that thing that were the

37:07

I know you're talking about and stuff. I think your name is Retta. Maybe I don't know her name. I know the face, I know,

37:14

I know. Yeah, I think she could pull off o Ma coul Jennifer

37:21

Yeah Lewis, she's always been but well, I don't know Jennifer Lewis,

37:30

was it Jennifer Lopez is new movie. You know who could do it?

37:35

You bet Nicole Brown? Oh, or that Nicole Brown could do it,

37:39

or the chick who played Kelly on Insecure. I'd love to see her.

37:45

But they're not going to do that. They're not gonna have any of those,

37:49

you know, Bush probably probably no bullshit. They probably cast like the

37:59

game they oh or Tiffany had. It should be kind of like a I

38:02

don't think so, No, I don't think I don't know anybody at the

38:07

moment. The moment, Oh yeah, yeah, there's a lot of ship

38:10

she's trying to work for. Yeah. Oh man, I felt so bad

38:15

for that sister. Outside of that, the only other thing I had on

38:20

on the Nerd Around table that I was curious to get your thoughts on was

38:23

the new trailer for the new Star Wars series of the Alcolyte, which Disney

38:30

is not going to slow down there. They're they on Disney Plus. At

38:32

least they continuously make sure that there is something to watch. They keep dropping

38:38

stuff. Everyone may not have been into, uh, the Percy Jackson,

38:44

but Percy Jackson was a good series way. I think I like it.

38:49

It was really good. Carl Jackson was good, and Percy Jackson was good

38:53

because even though it starred kids, they were acting like kids. They were

38:59

they were trying to play it straight as if they were dealing with the series,

39:01

which is what they should have done in the Avatar series, which absolute

39:06

was asked. That Avatar series was asked, I couldn't get into kids acting

39:10

like stupid kids. The Avatar. I don't know how the water been at

39:15

whatever. It was stupid and I didn't like it. I finished it and

39:19

I didn't walk to the end wait to see. But why is it people

39:23

say, oh, the movie was horrible. The movie was better than that

39:27

bullshit TV series. Absolutely, it was because in the movie they were serious.

39:31

The kids were not, and they played it with a serious tone,

39:37

and just because they were young, they didn't have to act like kids.

39:40

That's why Percy Jackson was good. The story maintained and they did not have

39:45

a lot of silly kid moments. But that's yet another series that Disney Plus

39:49

says, you know what, we're gonna throw that out? What are we're

39:51

gonna do next ninety seven? Throw that out? What we're gonna do next?

39:53

Boom out of Nowhere, Star Wars. They act like it's coming next

39:57

month. They were like, yo, dude, Like like, are y'all

40:00

gonna slow down with the dope shit. The trailer is surprisingly It's surprisingly for

40:06

me, I'm gonna say reserved. It almost is like they're not trying to

40:13

overhype it as like being some larger than life things. They're like, we

40:15

are telling a really, really uh intricate story. And because I was I

40:22

was expected just to be lightsabers, glory and flashes and a whole lot of

40:24

this. They're like, no, no, no, no, where it's

40:28

it looks like a mystery series. And that's something I didn't expect from the

40:30

world of Star Wars. I don't know. Well, I've read some reports

40:36

and I put it in the chat. The showrunner is an avowed non Star

40:40

Wars fan. Didn't watch it in the movies. I'm being serious. No,

40:45

no, no, no, no no, I'm not a fan.

40:49

Well she's she wasn't familiar with any of the Star Wars properties. How she

40:52

did the job. She's learning, They want, wait, wait, wait,

40:58

wait, she's learning having me, Well, I did watch it.

41:02

I'm not a Star Wars fan, so having me over it is a problem.

41:07

They wanted to have someone in the writer's room as it was pitched who

41:10

did not who was unencumbered by all the need for connectivity and easter eggs at

41:17

the expense of storytelling. What of good storytelling? Can you say it like

41:22

that? I understand the impulse, And you guys are a lot more,

41:30

a lot larger fans of George Lucas's original vision than I ever was. I

41:36

appreciate that he built this huge universe. I think that a lot of people

41:39

in the seventies and eighties before it kind of turned into a thing that was

41:44

going to be Redone, did a lot of work to advance the universe in

41:47

very cool and interesting ways, and then he came back and he was like,

41:51

fuck all of that. That doesn't count any more. That doesn't exist anymore. It's just my movies and now these new things that I'm making now

41:57

that are going to be a part of Canada. I never really enjoyed him

42:01

as a storyteller. I enjoyed Empire Strikes Back a lot more than any of

42:07

the other films because he didn't write it and he didn't direct it, and

42:13

the guy who did knew how to tell a story. Even though it ends

42:15

on that very abrupt note, it set the stage for what truly could have

42:20

been amazing. Had Lucas not wanted to sell Ewok toys, the third movie

42:24

might have been even better than it was. But seeing what you can do,

42:30

like the first episode of Ahsoka, told me that there are there's a

42:37

place in television to tell Star Wars stories that don't have to have the big

42:43

scope the Mandalorian kind of you know, the quieter pieces of the Mandalorian,

42:47

introducing these characters that are only vaguely familiar to people who are not devoted fans

42:53

of the entire universe. You can tell smaller stories set in this thing in

42:59

a way that you know, James Bond has been able to create a small

43:04

universe and just keep telling stories in it. And they all involve big action

43:07

set pieces, but there's also character development, you have connectivity to other things,

43:12

and so I think it's a wise choice. And they probably cut the

43:15

budget because Disney's trying to cut the budget on all their Disney Plus stuff.

43:19

But they also don't want people to stop subscriptions, so they keep putting out

43:22

high value properties that are increasingly well done so that people don't cancel the subscription.

43:30

That's what it comes down to. They're trying to limit churn, and

43:32

so they're putting out this stuff, and I think it's smart of them to

43:37

focus on things that they know they can do well. This woman and this

43:44

story, I don't know where it takes place in the overall timeline. I

43:46

don't know if it's like pre a New Hope or you know, where it

43:51

is. So it is so she might feel a little unburdened. I don't

43:55

have to know anything about lucr Lea or Darth Vader. Those people are not

43:59

going to touch my story. This is the story of this woman or this

44:01

one character who's you know, finding her way in this universe. And there's

44:06

this thing called the Force. She can't be totally unfamiliar with Star Wars,

44:09

not totally unfamiliar, but but she's not a fan and she you know,

44:14

she hasn't obsessed over the previous movies, and so she's not looking for things

44:19

that she has to like drop a hat to so that people say, oh

44:22

my gosh. So she she knows the John she knows the Williams scores,

44:28

and so those theme elements are going to be in there, probably like it

44:32

or not for her. But I I don't think that's going to be a

44:37

fatal flaw in the way that let's say, the people who did the last

44:42

three movies were hated by fans, and these were people who were immersed in

44:47

Star Wars. Wait, I got to disagree with that. I didn't want

44:52

to respond in the way that George Lucas wasn't a great storyteller. He was

44:55

a great universe builder and with it. Within the universe, there are or

45:00

the laws of physics of that universe. And then you have people like Ryan

45:04

Johnson, who I don't think was ever a Star Wars fan and didn't give

45:07

a shit about the laws of physics within the Star Wars universe and did whatever

45:13

he wanted, and so it didn't make sense to just about anyone. He

45:16

didn't necessarily have to stay within the realm of Luke and Laura. In fact,

45:20

he tried to kill them both in the same movie. But there are

45:23

still things that you want to keep the fans that you have and bring newer

45:29

fans along. And I do believe the person at the top should be intimately

45:34

familiar with the laws of physics of the Star Wars universe, because that's how

45:38

I believe we got the damn last fucking Jedi. To be fair, there

45:45

are two people, and no, it's not botch Star Wars, but a

45:51

when she did that horrid TV shows that too, Tom on Channel three c

46:00

W and she went in saying, I'm not a fan of oh you're talking

46:06

about that, Naomi, not a fan of comic books and abad Naomi tragic.

46:14

I've read Naomi, but that was tragic. And we have Pat Jenkins,

46:20

who gave us what nineteen eighty four Wonder Woman, and her argument was,

46:29

I'm not a big fan. I don't know much about Wonder Woman,

46:32

So I mean, it's just a cautionary tale of when you decide to give

46:37

something to someone that has a lot of nostalgic, a lot of rules,

46:44

a lot of you know, fans, you need to be careful on who

46:50

you decide to give that to. I will say the only, the only

46:53

saving grace or the only reason that I am wholeheartedly in support of what Star

47:04

Wars and what they're doing in that franchise right now is because, at long

47:09

last, they have put two people in charge that are die hard fans and

47:16

fantastic storytellers, between Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni. You know, Kathleen Kennedy

47:23

has said, hey, I executive produce everything. You two, you two

47:29

super nerds. You're in charge of building this universe. And so if they

47:34

have at least said, hey, we've seen what this young lady is bringing

47:37

to the table, we're green lighting it, I can only hope that it

47:44

has the Dave Filoni stamp of approval because right now, even still, if

47:50

you watch like this final season of The Bad Batch, it is some of

47:53

the best Star Wars storytelling ever ever, ever love or all of the series

48:00

that we've got. The only missdirection that we've got, the only really shitty

48:05

thing we've gotten since Filoni and Fabral took over is the Pamphlet of the Boba

48:09

Fett. But everything else they've done has been great. Obi Wan may not

48:14

have ended in a way everyone liked, but it was still an enjoyable series

48:17

that built the universe. Ahsoka built the universe, Mandalorian built the universe in

48:22

ways that were like, Wow, there's some really mind blowing shit that they're

48:27

really doing in this So look. And then now moving to a portion of

48:32

the Star Wars universe that's never been explored before, because this story takes us

48:37

back to the Old Republic for the very first time. This is the dawn

48:39

of the Jedi and the story of the very first Sith and how the Master

48:45

and the Apprentice came to be in Store Wars and Star Wars story lore.

48:51

So I'm curious to see the story because we've never heard of it. It

48:53

has nothing to do with it. This is what some two hundred years before

48:59

lup Leo they or any of that. So they so they don't have to

49:02

be encumbered by that, but it does give me a thousand years. I'm

49:08

just you know, if you're not a fan, I'm worried about what Liz

49:14

said, Like you at least got to be a fan of the damn franchise. You can't be like, I don't know anything and was supposed to do

49:21

Black Panther. So I'm glad she did not under her guidance, she was

49:27

like, you know, I don't think I'm a good person to do this

49:30

story. I wish she would have did that to Naomi too. Yeah, God bless her soul. Nothing Naomi started off and didn't even know who us

49:40

Superman was like, how where do we go from here? Yeah? One

49:46

episode. It wasn't a good idea to introduce a character like that when you

49:52

don't have the television rights to I mean, you can't slice off. You

49:58

could do that with the Mileston Universe because the Milestone Universe, you know,

50:01

before it got folded into DC, was its own pocket. So you didn't

50:06

have a Superman, you didn't have anything like that. You had a measure

50:08

of different analogues of some of the big characters in the Milestone Universe. When

50:14

it was off, and now they basically just drug Static and Icon and Rocket

50:19

into the mainstream DC universe and left the entire rest of the universe to die,

50:22

which kind of pissed me off because I loved the Milestone universe. But

50:29

she came in with that series at a time when superhero fatigue was just beginning

50:32

to set in and nobody really liked the DCEU anyway. And you know,

50:37

Supergirl in the Flash and Arrow had already gone off television, and Defenders of

50:43

Tomorrow whatever the hell that other spinoff show, was on its last leg,

50:46

so you didn't really have Legends Legends of the Legends of Tomorrow whatever the hell

50:52

they were, the forgotten Legends of yesteryear. Plus you have now this nobody

51:00

character that nobody even really cares about that do you have a big name attached

51:05

to it? But she's not good at sci fi. So she can keep

51:12

with the social commentary stuff, and she can keep with the documentaries. But

51:16

ain't nobody asking you for a superhero movie? Girl. I'm glad New Guys

51:20

got snatched from you. There's nothing you need to text. It's in that level of fantasy. Just keep it grounded. Yeah, because you're a genius

51:27

in what you do. Go see go see Origin. Yes, stuff like

51:30

that. That that that that's her bread and butter. Outside of that what

51:36

you'all watching live. We're not gonna make a comment. I know we skipped

51:40

over Dune, which is fine, But are we not going to make a

51:45

comment on the fact that Sony has we need to put a pause on all

51:50

these movies because of how bad Madam Web was. No, looks Madam Webb

51:57

is is what it was. But Sony's not stopping because they've they still they

52:00

stopped on Madam Web because Madam They were supposed to come out with another Madam

52:05

Web or yeah, they're still doing Craven. Yeah, Crave Craven comes out

52:12

this year and then three comes out this year. Oh yeah, they're not

52:17

Madam Da Coda. Johnson says she won't do Madam Web ship. She came

52:22

out and was like, yeah, I don't know what. Yeah, No,

52:25

the Sony Sony, as long as they own the right, they're going

52:30

to make movies. And now they've also announced that that they're they're moving forward

52:34

with the next uh uh Spider Verse film. So they're they're good, They're

52:38

they're good. Yeah, they've worked all that, all the differences out with

52:42

them, so we'll get the next Spider Verse film Across the Spider Verse.

52:45

Sony's good with with what they're coming out with because they never ever ever want

52:50

to get to a point where they take too long of a pause and Marvel

52:53

gets to snatch you back up. They're not going to do that. They're

52:57

not going to do that because still they still make a lot of money.

53:00

As bad as Madam Web is, they made their money back which is shot.

53:07

Yeah, yes, yes, there's only a budget of eighty million.

53:09

It's crossed one hundred million. Yeah, well, they're not getting all of

53:14

that. It's it's it's one of us where it's not it's not a it's

53:17

not a loss for them, it's not a win. But then they're like

53:21

coming like, uh okay, yeah, we're good. Tell the television television

53:25

rights to someone in streaming rights they'll be okay, figures there are right.

53:30

Yeah. By the way, there is a new Spider Verse TV YouTube that

53:37

they're dropping at the end of the month. Oh yeah, yeah on YouTube.

53:42

Right, Yeah, I think that that's what I was talking about when

53:45

I said that they're they're they're moving on with the Spider Verse. Yeah,

53:50

they've got a whole channel you can subscribe to on YouTube TV. Uh that

53:54

they will be offering Spider Man shorts some money okay, yeah, and the

54:00

short some like in preparation and leading up to so they're they're trying to do

54:04

something, and I think it's just pressure from Disney that's knocking on the door

54:08

every five minutes, like sot with that Spider Man. Why Robert from l

54:14

A is asking about the title of the Venom movie, which I I just

54:20

I don't even understand. I just I just don't get it. Look,

54:27

I don't get the Venom movies period, So so it doesn't matter like the

54:30

last Dance, Yeah, forget anything. It's all stupid, like you know,

54:35

to me, Sony, Sony literally doesn't care. And this is true

54:39

because of a homegirl who used to be in charge over there. Pascual thinks

54:45

Pascal was Anna Pascal who was in charge of the Amy Pascal. She literally

54:52

has said she does not care about these superhero films. You know when when

54:57

I v R, when he when the dude who did h the first Venom

55:00

film and all that, he came around and it was just like I'm doing

55:06

this Venom film because it's going to be great for Halloween costumes and toys.

55:09

I don't care about these damn movies, and that's just what it is.

55:13

They don't care there. These are just money makers for them, and as

55:16

bad as they are, they do make money. The Venom films have made

55:22

money, so they're gonna keep making them. Well, maybe Venom is trying

55:25

to get into Julliard. I thought they're gonna have like Michael Jordan up here,

55:32

you know, talk about the Chicago Bulls. I don't know. But

55:37

if my boy, if my boy Montell gets some music royalties, because in

55:42

the last sequence of the movie, Venom is doing an audition as a hip

55:45

hop symbio, dancing next to oh Boy. And you know, I'm happy.

55:54

I'm happy that he's gonna get a paycheck because I do not understand the

55:58

last dance Carnage. Fine, I get carnage, but the whole symbio thing

56:02

has grown. It was just one dude, and then two dudes, and

56:07

then all of a sudden you got more symbios than you have spider people and

56:13

on just on Earth. And then you got the null as the god of

56:17

the original symbiote, who also made the Necro Sword. I'm like, wait,

56:22

he was just a parasite and now he's like some great under good of

56:28

the whole universe of the Marvel I just don't get it. You know who's

56:30

in it, right, you would tell four Edgie of four yeah, and

56:37

his in his second Marvel movie appearance. I don't want to get that's right.

56:49

It's gonna get gonna get some stink on him. He's gonna be maybe

56:53

he's stealing magic because he won't be mortal more. Uh, and it's very

57:06

mortal than I'm done. Look when when even Michael Keaton is like, hey,

57:12

so everyone keeps asking me why I was in Morbus and I've finally got

57:15

an answer for you'all. I don't know. I have no idea why they

57:19

asked me to come and do that. I don't know what the point of

57:21

that was. They were trying to make the sentence for six verse no yeah, no, and and he's like, but that's he was. They were.

57:28

They were at it like, I don't know why, Like I'm not

57:30

in any more film, right, it was never going to happen. They

57:36

just want to say, oh, there's connectivity to the whole Tom Holland that

57:42

movie seven years ago, he's here, He's It was literally like if you

57:47

go look at the Pitch meeting or Morbus, it was literally that. It

57:54

was like studio head, Hey, that guy that was in the thing over

57:58

there that made so much money, he should be in this film. It's

58:01

like, uh, but there's no reason for he should be in this film.

58:05

And because they think that's continuity when it really is and that's continuity.

58:10

Yeah. No, there's no there's no way that this Sony universe can last.

58:20

Eventually, Eventually they're gonna have to go on and say, you know

58:23

what, fuck it, We'll give it all back to you, Marvel,

58:27

to make sure you cut us in. They're going to they're going to get

58:32

a Willy Lumpkin movie before they get to the end of their desire. They

58:37

have so many characters in the IP they could without wrinkling anybody's feathers and actually

58:45

winning a lot of fans. They could do a Miles Morales movie. They

58:52

could do a Spider Man twenty ninety nine movie. They have all these different

58:55

spiders. They could very easily do it. They could do breaking off like

59:02

into the Spider Verse. Four could be like the more lun saga because you

59:07

got all these Spider people, and you can put more lun ins the main

59:09

villain, and then you've got something that people would actually be into. Yeah.

59:15

Yeah, but they're not gonna do it because all they're trying to do

59:20

is pamp pamp pamp pamp pamp, the Peter Parker connection, and they're not

59:24

exploring any of the things that they could do with all the other Spider Man

59:29

that nobody is really emotionally attached to. And they want to do that beyond

59:32

instead of focusing on villains, you know, because there there was there's literally

59:38

even talk of the next villain film after Craven uh being and and this character

59:45

will be introduced in the Craven film. Uh Chameleon. They're talking about breaking

59:53

off and doing the community yes, And it's like one of those why no

59:59

one cares about Chameleion. No one cares the ip he dressed up in outfits.

1:00:06

You're dumb, Sony, What are you doing everybody? With your own

1:00:12

films better and more convincing visual effects to completely make a guy who has to

1:00:17

put on makeup and wigs and nobody is going to care. They're gonna actually

1:00:23

have to have him have the superpower being able to change his parents. They're

1:00:28

gonna have They're gonna have to. That's the only way worse. I mean,

1:00:30

he is introduced in uh in Craven, so we will see how this

1:00:37

is supposed to spin off. But yeah, we're supposed to see Chameleon in

1:00:39

Craven and we will be getting a Chameleon film. Look, I don't know

1:00:45

why they were doing a Tarantula film. Who wanted that? Who's asking for

1:00:50

that? Is that still? Is that still in the works? Supposedly bad

1:00:53

Bunny that when he was last asked about it, he's like, bad Funny.

1:00:57

He just had to cancel one of his dates. I think maybe the

1:01:00

Bad Bunny train is maybe slowing down a little bit for ticket sales. Listen,

1:01:07

this Tony Spider verse don't make no kind of sense. No, it's

1:01:12

it's really dumb. And I don't know that anybody is gonna go see Craven

1:01:15

Craven, Craven, Craven Craven camelleon because no, and and then dud trying

1:01:21

to also be James Bond stop it. Well, you know that could cut

1:01:27

two ways. No, I mean the Aaron Taylor Johnson thing that could either

1:01:32

help Craven or hurt Bond. One it's not gonna be because of that movie

1:01:40

bombs, which is more likely than not. Will that doesn't help him starting

1:01:45

off the Bond franchise, and one petition to get rid of him. That's

1:01:51

right, because he's Jewish, the what will call it? He is he's

1:01:58

Jewish, part of his family's Jewish. And going back to Ian Fleming,

1:02:02

yeah, yes, you know, and now you know, if you do

1:02:07

anything about Ian Fleming's thought to be Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's

1:02:22

that's too bad. And so when you look at the whole anti interest ELBA

1:02:29

Bond thing and the purity test for Bond, and you look at it through

1:02:32

the Ian Fleming lens, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than

1:02:37

just looking at on the strength of you know, he's just a British secret

1:02:42

agent who is almost never played by a British actor, right, yeah,

1:02:47

yeah, yeah, I look, that's that's just that's shameful. What uh

1:02:54

yeah, Ship, Liz, what you're watching? Wow, I'm actually watching

1:03:00

a few things Apple Plus. Actually I'm watching a lot of stuff on Apple

1:03:07

Plus. How do I know? They have on Apple Plus they have a

1:03:13

show called Manhunt that deals with trying to find the John Booth, and they

1:03:25

also have thinking about bigotry. They do have a show that is currently dealing

1:03:34

with Christian Dior and Chanel and Chanelle uh that deal, which is really fascinating

1:03:45

because I know about Chanelle being she claims that she wasn't a Nazi sympathizer.

1:03:52

But anyway, it's an interesting It's an interesting show for sure. I think

1:03:59

it's industry or something like that. Anyway, there was a cute little cartoon

1:04:04

that nobody's watching and I think people should watch on Disney Plus called Uaju.

1:04:12

Well, I just saw that. I saw my first ad for that,

1:04:17

the Nigerian animated series. Yes, it's really really good. And then also

1:04:24

in the movies, nobody's watching this either, just like I thought that people

1:04:28

should have seen The Book of Clarence really a good movie. The album is

1:04:33

really good. I like it, I really really do like it. I

1:04:39

thought it was really well put together. Well, I thought it was clever,

1:04:46

and part of it is maybe because I went to a college where we

1:04:50

had to study the Bible a lot. Anyway, I also thought the American

1:04:57

Society of Matt Magical Negroes I will not watch that on the title alone.

1:05:03

I watch that with your eyes. Okay, I'm saying that the title is

1:05:08

horrible, but I actually thought that the movie was a lot better than what

1:05:15

I expected, and it was leaning into the whole notion of us being the

1:05:24

magical Negro in the show as a sidekick. Yeah, I know what it's

1:05:29

about, and I will never watch it on the strength of the title alone.

1:05:33

If you're and you obviously if you name something like that, you're not

1:05:36

trying to get a lot of people to watch it, I won't. I

1:05:40

thought it was good, and I know what it's about. I know everything

1:05:43

what it's about. I refuse. I will say this because I just want

1:05:47

I'm watching The Gentleman, which I'm really enjoying on Netflix, and I'm also

1:05:51

binging suits. I will say this about the American society from Magical Negroes.

1:06:00

I think just on the title alone and from the extended trailer that I saw,

1:06:03

that that kind of really outlines what the movie is about. It's trying

1:06:08

to do a lot, which is what I thought Book of Clarence was trying

1:06:11

to do. And Book of Clarence veered so wildly within the confines of its

1:06:15

own two hour plus runtime between being sat higher but also kind of irreverent car

1:06:24

washy just type ghetto vibes plus an examination of religion versus myth and all of

1:06:31

these things, and it ended up not being any of those things, and

1:06:39

I just I respected what he was trying to do in the way that I

1:06:44

respected Hong for Jesus and some other films that tried to do something different cinematically

1:06:50

and outside of the Nights Over Egypt Syne, which I love just because I

1:06:54

loved the it was a great song and loved I love this, and I

1:07:00

was like, but they're literally doing solid gold dance moves in a soul train

1:07:03

line in like Jerusalem. I anyway, I let it go because I enjoyed

1:07:11

the hell out of that song. But a lot of it tonally was just

1:07:15

it was all over the place for me, and so I didn't enjoy it.

1:07:18

However, what I will say is is that the gentleman is on the

1:07:21

opposite side of that guy. Ritchie is a very kinetic filmmaker from his earliest

1:07:27

days. He makes these big, loud British crime centered movies and sometimes they

1:07:33

hold together, sometimes they don't, especially when they're overstuffed with a huge cast,

1:07:38

and you know, it just starts getting out of control. However,

1:07:42

with the Gentleman, because it's a series, he can take longer times to

1:07:46

breathe, that characters can grow into who they are so begin to develop a

1:07:50

relationship with them. And I'm really enjoying it. Plus John Carlo Esposito is

1:07:55

in it, which is always kind of a good thing for me, and

1:07:59

the settings are amazing, and the British crime stuff is a lot more palatable

1:08:06

when it doesn't have to be at a breakneck pace to get a movie in

1:08:11

under two hours. So I think it's like eight or maybe even ten episodes.

1:08:16

I haven't finished it yet, but I'm enjoying it. And I'm also

1:08:21

looking forward to the next episode of X Men ninety seven. And I don't

1:08:26

know how long it's it gonna take me to get through the last four seasons

1:08:29

of Suits, but that's what I'm doing. What you got, mo I

1:08:33

started, I'm starting to. Actually I have started season two of Tokyo Wece

1:08:40

series with Ken wantadaby On. Max really enjoyed that it ended poorly because it

1:08:45

seemed like I don't know if it was originally filmed during COVID and then they

1:08:48

had some cost overrun issues or something because it ended very abruptly, and I

1:08:54

didn't know if they were even going to get a second season, and all

1:08:56

of a sudden, I realized they have a second season. So I'm starting.

1:08:58

I'm doing that and all so three body problem on Netflix. I'm starting

1:09:01

tonight. Oh that heard some interesting thing. I heard. It kind of

1:09:06

holds together until episode six, the last two episodes. Yes, And it's

1:09:13

kind of hard for me to do sci fi series for that reason. I'd

1:09:15

rather just have one contiguous movie package and move on. Series can be uneven,

1:09:21

you have some filler episodes or loses its way, but I'll give it

1:09:26

a shot. All right, shit, you know, for me, it's

1:09:30

all about anime. Uh and quite possibly the greatest anime series introduced in so

1:09:38

long is called Solo Leveling. Solo Leveling is absolutely insane and it is.

1:09:46

It is gripping every episode as a cliffhanger. It is effing amazing. Another

1:09:54

series that we've caught onto is Shanger Laud Frontier. Shanger Laud Frontier another great

1:10:00

series. Both Solo Leveling and Shangri La Frontier, they flip the idea of

1:10:08

playing video games kind of on their head. Like while Solo Leveling they bring

1:10:13

there's a lot of if you play video games, there's a lot of video

1:10:15

game based action and play in the story, while Shangri Lau Frontier is about

1:10:20

a kid who is playing a video game and it kind of takes the idea

1:10:24

of virtual reality to a whole nother level. But on Max, there is

1:10:30

a new anime series on Max and it is one of the most violent,

1:10:34

bloodiest uh ninja based you know anime series. I've seen it forever. It's

1:10:42

Ninja Kai Kamui Ninja come a k a m u i uh. And it

1:10:48

is man first episode, blood everywhere, death everywhere, uh, and then

1:10:55

more death and you absolutely gotta love it. I mean it's is it better

1:10:59

than Blue Eye Samurai? It take Blue Eye Samurai and put it into a

1:11:04

futuristic setting, Okay, put it into a world where where where Amazon has

1:11:14

taken over the world, uh with with its with its uh intrusion into every

1:11:19

aspect of life, where a a super you know, tech company is providing

1:11:25

everything that you need in the world. And then throw in ninjas who have

1:11:29

become more mainstream, you know, they're they're they're they're more on the yakuza

1:11:34

level. Uh and and and they're they're real businessmen. Uh And then ship

1:11:40

goes to pot and you got to start getting rid of a lot of ninjas

1:11:43

who don't who don't want to buy into the new way of doing ninjutsu,

1:11:48

and a lot of people trying to hold onto so you got to eliminate them.

1:11:53

And they fucked with the wrong ninja, and they went back fucked with

1:11:56

the wrong ninja. And now everyone's got to die. Now everyone's got to

1:12:00

die, and he's killing everybody, and it's it is a glorious, bloody

1:12:04

mess. What's that one called again, Ninja Kamui It's it's k a m

1:12:11

u. I yes, on it's on Max's. It's probably the only thing,

1:12:15

the other thing that's keeping this Max subscription going. Seriously, it is

1:12:20

I've said, like, without that, I'm like, Max may have to

1:12:24

go. But now I'm like, another episode is coming on. I'll watch

1:12:27

it for Max is on maxes on the precipice of getting dropped, because I

1:12:30

don't know what else is on Max even worth me keeping. Okay, there

1:12:35

you go. H Hopefully we do not have another three month break in between

1:12:43

the next episode. But I can assure you this, Uh Doctor Liz from

1:12:47

the Freeway, Oh hey, uh no, seriously, Deadpool is absolute.

1:12:57

Deadpool is absolute, and we also will have some round table edge going around.

1:13:01

The Acolyte King Kong is not worth me getting up on for I hate

1:13:12

the idea of the film being made. I hate everything about it, and

1:13:16

I haven't seen it at all. I didn't like that last film so much.

1:13:20

And here's the thing, I bought tickets torture folks, just to torture

1:13:28

people. I cannot stand the idea. It's got a baby call dude,

1:13:32

I'm out. I'm already out. I already want to leave the theater and

1:13:34

I'm not there. I already wanted to. And we did a whole special,

1:13:40

stayed up till midnight to talk about it in the morning, to talk

1:13:45

about it's not happening again. The Acolyte is coming in just a few weeks

1:13:54

with the first episode. We'll have some more Xtra ninety seven by then,

1:13:59

so we'll be back before you and and Moe's favorite show is coming back to

1:14:08

the Kingdom of the Apes is the favorite show Apes. It was a It's

1:14:16

a movie number one and it never was my favorite look. I'm not I'm

1:14:23

not gonna go see that. I'm sorry. There are certain things that I

1:14:26

know I don't have to go see. I know I don't have to go

1:14:29

see the Ape movie. I don't have to see it. It's come out in May, though, but not, I still can't understand the premise of

1:14:36

them, like, ooh, there's humans. I'm struggling with that. But

1:14:42

you know, to each his own, No, it's it's real stuff.

1:14:44

I can tell you this. It's set in the future and they've rewritten history

1:14:48

where apes have all always been dominant, and they are using like the original,

1:14:56

the humans are catching humans, using them as slaves, you know,

1:14:59

the whole allegory thing. And and they find one smart human and it's like,

1:15:04

it's almost to the point where how if you if we humans in the

1:15:09

original of the films and you had the one ape who got smart, and

1:15:13

we're like, the fuck this ape is talking and all of a sudden he started rising up and doing stuff. No, but that was the original movie.

1:15:21

But but but I'm saying that the first three, the last three movies,

1:15:25

what the same font, the same look was telling us a whole different

1:15:30

story. And so now no, thea story this. Yeah, yeah,

1:15:34

it's just a time jump, right when they when they came to the movie

1:15:40

after the one that that Mark Wahlberg was in, Right, that didn't count.

1:15:44

That doesn't count. But when they relaunched these, they launched it in

1:15:47

the present day, leading up to the point where the Apes took over,

1:15:53

and so Caesar was the only smart one and then Caesar started to influence the

1:15:56

other ones, and they did. But that wasn't where the movie started.

1:16:00

The movie started with Charlton Heston coming back, well coming back from a time

1:16:04

work or whatever, to the planet Earth, not realizing it was Earth,

1:16:09

and then all of the subsequent movies were more or less moving forward from there.

1:16:14

They they prequel re jumped a rebooted planet of the Apes to start at

1:16:18

the beginning of the story, just like Day one, a quiet place.

1:16:24

Day one is taking us all the way back to the beginning so that we

1:16:28

can see more aliens that we never really got to see. Oh I do

1:16:30

want to see that? Oh well, I mean I'm in for Lupita and

1:16:33

Yango. I saw I was like that looks dope, and now I will

1:16:38

watch that, and then I could watch the other films in sequential order.

1:16:41

Now, this is gonna sound racist, but I always wanted to see how

1:16:45

we were gonna deal with the aliens, because you know, we can't be quiet about shit. Motherfucker Davin who had to clap his hand over stop and

1:17:03

then the next like folks, so in the quiet place right in the first

1:17:12

two day one. Yeah, So my point is is that you're all gone.

1:17:18

Is this supposed well? No, no, no. In the first

1:17:24

one, you're only around like one family. You're you're getting a very very

1:17:28

microscopic look, you're not. And then the second one they brought it out

1:17:30

to like a town, and this is I think they'll show the world.

1:17:34

Yeah, but I'm saying you don't. You don't get a real sense and

1:17:38

the scope of the invasion. No, it stayed very small because you had

1:17:44

to be watch. Look, I think it's worth it. I think it's

1:17:47

worth it, seriously, but I would watch in the order that they've been

1:17:54

released, you think so, yeah, yeah, I think you don't get

1:17:58

the part of the of the first one is your fare understanding what's going on.

1:18:05

That that kind of helps because you got a child who is hearing impaired.

1:18:12

You've got you know, so you're understanding that there's a whole lot going

1:18:15

on, and you understand that how important it is for quiet, and uh,

1:18:23

you need you need a quiet place. I think to establish the universe.

1:18:26

It's not going to be as impactful if you look. Okay, I'll

1:18:31

do that. I'll do I know. The other two are our stream of

1:18:34

somewhere, I get, yeah, they are. They might be on Max.

1:18:39

There might be another reason for me to keep them. I think as

1:18:42

a matter of fact, I think it might be a Warner brother's property.

1:18:44

Yeah, I think, yeah, I think they might be on Max. So I'll go back and watch those. But uh, all right, now

1:18:49

watch at least one episode of Ninja Kamui to look. Watch it, dude.

1:18:54

If you want some violence in your life, watch it. I'm good

1:18:59

with islands, blood, gore, nudity. It's got all the beauty of

1:19:08

Blue Eyes Samurai. It's just set in the future, future tents setting kind

1:19:13

of like, you know, in the very near future, very near like twenty twenty thirty, I think is twenty thirty, twenty thirty five, you

1:19:19

know. But it's yeah, it's got that sci fi anime kind of look,

1:19:26

you know, city of the future, but it's not really the city

1:19:29

of the future because it ain't working for everybody. And ninjas, I'm talking

1:19:33

like the type of the type of slicing folks in half and you see the

1:19:38

body split as the sword's going down with the organs and everything falling out.

1:19:43

It's that kind of good ninja Shitay yeah man, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

1:19:48

Liz, you love it. Don't watch with the kids, don't watch

1:19:51

the kids, all right, with no Anthony or McBain, it is.

1:20:00

It is up to you to take us out something strange in the neighborhood.

1:20:09

I love it. Oh, Kelly, fuck roadhouse. Where is my protnpack

1:20:21

suit? It's else. I love it.