Liverpool suffered a deserved defeat at Old Trafford on one of the worst nights of the Jurgen Klopp era. 

The poor start to the season dragged on with another flat and uninspired display that leaves the reds on just two points from three games and has alarm bells ringing with fans.

TLW Editor Dave Usher and John Gallagher join host Chris Smith to discuss:

What went so badly wrong on the night?What on earth was Virgil doing for the first goal? How bad these early season problems really are? How can the lads get back on track with two Anfield games up next?