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the lookout for that. Today.

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We're going to get raw and

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vulnerable with Chris Cel limb. Chris.

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Cell is one of the world's

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most influential tastemakers with over two

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million followers on both Instagram an

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Tic Toc and one of the

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biggest Fashion You Tube channels. She's

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also the owner and creative director

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of for the mega popular fragrance

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brand that went super viral with

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the release of the First Said

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that She ever conceived which was

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inspired in part by her divorce

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which will get into in this

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episode. We also talk about the

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secrets to hot girl energy, pragmatic,

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Ways to have more confidence: How

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to know when it's time to

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make a huge life decision like

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getting a divorce? How to stop

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being afraid of starting over in

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your thirties forties and beyond. Frank.

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Financial conversations about taboo topics

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like the tricky ness have

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been the female breadwinner, alimony,

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and more. How. Chris Cel

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bill her multimillion dollar make a successful

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business and what she's learned along the

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way that can help you. Achieve your

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career dream. The. Had

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a know when to have kids without

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derailing your career. The one

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question that will change how you

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approach your visit, your relationships, basically

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your entire life. How. A

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help your partner go after their

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goals without parenting them, are feeling

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resentful and so much more. We.

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Would both love to hear your thoughts

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as you're listening. So definitely screenshot entire

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You know anyone who would benefit from this

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business? Send them a link. Also.

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I want to hear your thoughts and the

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advice that we gave in this episode. Do

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you agree? Do you disagree? I want to

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know. Okay, let's get right

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into it with the wonderful Chris.

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Sell them! Present

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Welcome to the Ficus! I'm so excited to have

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layer or having the and such a big fan!

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Ah okay I mean it is dive right into

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it with so much to get into space but

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I want to start with use it on your

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you tube that it is never too late To

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the a hot girl. I want to know what

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you mean by be in a hot girl and

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I want say your best tips for be an

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A Hot. I think a lot of people assume

3:22

that the a hot girl means that you have

3:24

to wear skimpy clothes the of to where things

3:27

are you'd typically won't feel comfortable with that. It's

3:29

actually. Quite. The opposite. Be a hot

3:31

girl is really an attitude. It's

3:33

an energy. It's and energy that

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I discovered. Post divorce

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because. I was never my

3:39

authentic self during my marriage and I

3:42

realize that until I finally felt like

3:44

myself and that is what it really

3:46

means to be a hawk well as

3:48

winner, able to the iraq authentic self

3:50

and you just so up to the

3:52

world in a different way. You know

3:54

when you see those people that walk

3:56

into a room and you're like you

3:58

just noticed that for no other. That

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they don't have to be the most

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good looking for us and they don't

4:04

have to be the first. Now has

4:06

a least amount of clothing, but there's

4:08

something about them were you just can

4:10

not stop gravitating towards them. And it's

4:12

a certain energy. It's an aura.you really

4:14

just kind of released to the world

4:16

to say I have arrived and that

4:19

is truly by. Being. Confident

4:21

and I think through confidence it just

4:23

kind of gives up. Fan of i

4:25

don't give a fuck attitude In a

4:27

way where you just don't really care

4:29

about how you appear to others year,

4:31

just fully comfortable with the salt And

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to me that is what it means

4:36

to be a hot girl. What brought

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you that confidence in your life? Have

4:40

you tapped into that? I think it's

4:42

through. Hardship. And I

4:45

think there's no way around it.

4:47

I think in order to feel

4:49

fully truly. Confidence.

4:51

With beer most and herself is going

4:54

through hard times and when you at

4:56

one point thought you might die within

4:58

a situation because I this is way

5:01

too hard for me like I can

5:03

not get through this. There's no way

5:05

I can get to this but you

5:08

do and is so up and you're

5:10

like okay I didn't die, do that

5:12

process, I'm still here and that is

5:15

to me authentic real confidence when you're

5:17

able to sell to the world and

5:19

be like I have survived. The hardest

5:22

thing that I've ever experienced. and

5:24

if I can get to that,

5:26

I know that I can stop

5:28

to this place in my most

5:30

confident cells. Can. You tease me

5:32

back to when you were deciding to get divorced

5:34

because I can't imagine in that moment you were

5:36

like this is the hardest thing I've ever going

5:38

to go through but it's get help me build

5:41

all this is Lily and then I'm really super

5:43

confident and then life is gonna be great and

5:45

we all knew that it would be so much

5:47

easier to make the hard choices in our lives.

5:49

Yes, but going back to back version of you.

5:52

What did you need to make that hard

5:55

choice? I'm in my. Late thirties,

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almost forty, and. Getting

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there comes a time where lot of women

6:02

are questioning and it men to actually. Are

6:05

questioning. Whether ad in

6:07

their life, whether it be a relationship, whether

6:09

it be the clear, whether be kids anything

6:11

like a a fork in the road race

6:13

and to me it's a bow. Like.

6:16

You just know and it's like he

6:18

had this burning desire inside where you're

6:20

like this is not it like this

6:22

can't be it. And it's not about

6:24

like. See. Why? Like is this

6:27

in this happens and I will

6:29

know There's no right and wrong

6:31

formula. It's just as. Inner.

6:33

Burning desire. We're like, okay,

6:36

I can't see myself living this

6:38

way. For. The. Rest

6:41

of my Life for the next few weeks,

6:43

the next few months. and you just know

6:45

And there's no other way to describe it

6:47

that's interesting. I got and advice question from

6:49

a listener that was. I've been debating a

6:52

divorce that my husband and I are fine

6:54

together. We're not great, but we're fine. How

6:56

do you know when or if you should

6:58

get a divorce? I don't know. Does that

7:01

mean we should stay together? I. Think

7:03

the answers. probably because you'll know when

7:05

you know the people that don't know

7:07

the answer is is still going through

7:09

the process and you have to go

7:11

through the process Like for me, When.

7:14

I officially decided to walk away from.

7:16

My marriage. It was

7:18

many, many, many years after. Of mean

7:20

not knowing I'm like, no, I don't

7:23

know But then there comes a day

7:25

when you're like oh I know This

7:27

is a moment where I'm like, okay,

7:30

I know deep down inside I this is

7:32

a decision I have to make for myself

7:34

and my family and so I wish there

7:36

was a better and say was that there

7:38

was a formula as I said before but

7:40

there really is it. like you'll know when

7:43

the time is it for you and I

7:45

also wonder if you don't know if that

7:47

means you could try this is the trailers

7:49

even try this and then of those things

7:51

don't actually bear fruit for results than maybe

7:53

you will get that deep know and I

7:55

think that's what it was for me is

7:57

that. I was struggling

7:59

for very long the time and.

8:02

If there's one polity and me as I'm not,

8:05

And give. Her up for if

8:07

that's even worse. I am so stubborn

8:09

when it comes to trying to figure

8:11

things. Out like I'm an area That's

8:13

just how I yeah that's how it

8:15

felt like is determined I can't do

8:18

something. I'm going to make it happen

8:20

And that's how I thought with my

8:22

marriage vows like no no there's no

8:24

way that discount the it I made

8:26

this decision, I had kids and. There's

8:28

no way out of this. I have

8:30

to make this work. For years and

8:33

years and years our sons like figure

8:35

it out. Let's put the puzzle pieces

8:37

together and. There comes a point

8:39

when you're okay. Night. I

8:41

tried absolutely everything and I've exhausted

8:44

our sweet little part of me

8:46

to the point where he just

8:48

don't even know who you are

8:50

anymore cause you're just like he

8:52

gave it your all and. That's.

8:55

The point we're like, okay, I

8:57

know when you're just completely depleted

8:59

because you gave it your all

9:01

and he tried everything so if

9:03

he don't know yet, you're still

9:05

probably in the process of figuring

9:07

it out and look along the

9:09

way. You. Might cigarette out which

9:12

is beautiful which is the best in that

9:14

could ever happen re enough for like you're

9:16

such an advocate for divorce I'm not. I'm

9:18

actually not know. What I love is that

9:20

you say I didn't have a lot of

9:22

models and examples for this and I want

9:24

to be an example that this is an

9:26

option you can take and be okay. I

9:28

think there's a lot of advocates for being

9:30

okay in a marriage and I don't think

9:32

there are very many people. So in that

9:34

you can be okay in a divorce I

9:36

doesn't mean you're saying everybody's you get divorced

9:38

Absolutely not. I think marriage is such a

9:40

secret deal More. Than ever. Now given

9:42

not, it's so. I mean. The.

9:44

Number so re like I. Think it's

9:47

fifty or sixty percent at this point, by

9:49

marriages don't work out, so even more so

9:51

now it's such a secret thing and I

9:53

think it should continue to be. I think

9:55

no one really goes into marriage been like.

9:57

I'm gonna go get a divorce know like you go.

10:00

Into this hoping for the best stray. I

10:02

always say you for the best and plan

10:04

for the worst is just never know what

10:06

life can bring you. Are you a planner?

10:09

Yeah. I'm a planner, but I've learned

10:12

to become a loose plan on out. Because.

10:15

They think when you're planner. You.

10:18

Cannot plans for are.

10:21

Things. I. You. Can forecast and

10:23

that you can't see that there's a lot

10:25

of blindside blinds. Things that happen next? me

10:27

away. I mean, no one could a plan

10:29

for the pandemic to happen, right? So Id

10:32

like to plant. I think it's important to

10:34

plan and have a general idea of where

10:36

you're going. At where you hope to go. but

10:38

I think. There

10:40

should be some openness to that

10:43

as well. I think that

10:45

one of the things that holds people back

10:47

from. Any major life

10:49

saved up, especially in their thirties,

10:51

weathered switching career path, getting out

10:53

of relationship anything like that is.

10:56

Fear. That it's. Too

10:58

late that their ship has sailed

11:00

that's starting over is too scary.

11:03

How did you get through that

11:05

fear? Well, I actually started a

11:07

very late kind of sort youtube

11:09

series called never Too Late because

11:12

of this idea of. What?

11:14

We were Kind of brainwashed. Think that

11:16

in our thirties, life is. Said.

11:19

And done. And where you are in

11:21

the thirties that have to be for

11:24

the rest of your life and that

11:26

is absolutely false. I think there's something

11:28

with than us that I think we're

11:30

all kind of brainwashed. It seems like

11:32

in our twenties or figuring it out

11:34

for in your thirty's That is where

11:36

you have to have a career in,

11:38

have to have your kids and your

11:40

family. But what I realize through this

11:42

entire process is out: There really is

11:45

no age limit to. When to

11:47

start a family Once start a

11:49

career, One start a relationship and

11:51

we're all really. Writing our own

11:54

rule books here. and there is no rule

11:56

book for anyone Really? Is

11:58

there anything that made you. Actually believe that they

12:01

feel like I can tell that to offend till

12:03

the end of times. I have friends who are

12:05

in relationships that maybe aren't their favorite relationship but

12:07

they're like dusty ideas and in this relationship and

12:09

getting back out in the dating pool and they

12:12

will end up with a me worth and all

12:14

the great guys are taken and of a while

12:16

like what could I tell them to make them

12:18

feel like there's still a world of possibility and

12:20

it's not too late? I know it's hard re

12:23

I went through my Salt Lake steam on a

12:25

red flag. The amount of people telling me before.

12:28

And I just didn't wanna listen. Ray and

12:30

I'm like there's no way that I could

12:32

start over at this age. There's no way

12:34

that start over I already have two kids

12:36

like that is not gonna happen and so

12:39

I had to go through it myself for

12:41

me to realize that. But I think it

12:43

really. Starts from how we are

12:45

raised as kids. At. Eighteen.

12:47

That's something that I'm trying to teach my

12:49

kids as I have two girls one is

12:51

nine when the size of the Sabah lifelong

12:53

ahead of them. But I think it really

12:55

starts at an early. Age of

12:57

like how. We're tying them things

13:00

right. Like for instance, I remember growing up

13:02

I didn't have tiger parents like to glaze

13:04

and parents that like oh had a man

13:06

that was like it's I paid this much

13:08

for you to do this lesson that you're

13:10

going to finish it no matter what. And

13:12

and my brain and a wonderfully i play

13:14

the clarinet and a he did it like

13:16

I absolutely hated it but my mom was

13:18

like no you're not allowed to quit like

13:20

too late sorry as I did a all

13:22

draw high school so guess what I did

13:24

right when a like love. Call.

13:26

It to call it quits says S S

13:28

I s about how I'm raising my girls

13:30

now and not as in I'm a perfect

13:32

parent but they want to train activity like

13:34

for instance, my oldest daughter Chloe she's nine.

13:37

She's. Willing to horse riding buses also like

13:40

figuring out what is this as she likes

13:42

that like spores you want to play basketball

13:44

and soccer and I presume really wanted her

13:46

to do like. It seems more active declared

13:48

think it's really great to play with other

13:51

players and learn about you know, companionship and

13:53

being a team player. Shapley.

13:55

Hated It. Absolutely hated it.

13:58

And so. For. Me: Was.

14:01

Like. Being my mom aus in my head

14:03

I was like oh god no You gotta

14:05

finish this. You gotta see that it. You

14:07

know we already invested into everything. Let's push

14:09

a little further. But what I said to

14:11

her was like look. You know,

14:13

let you try it and you don't like it. And

14:16

that's not your fault, that's not my

14:18

fault as no one's fault and you

14:20

should feel proud of yourself or time

14:22

and we could move onto the next

14:25

thing and assign it All starts with

14:27

will be being that he could try

14:29

things and move on at a young

14:31

age but being raised in an immigrant

14:33

households spills like know if you commit

14:35

to something the artist finish. It or

14:38

your failure, And a think that's

14:40

how it started for a lot of

14:42

me and my players that we'd have

14:44

to finish it or us were failure

14:46

and so hopefully I'm kind of changing

14:48

that narrative. I'm shallow deal with other

14:50

situations that come up with that leader

14:52

that yeah I think the set at

14:54

a young age. I also think bit

14:56

and building a belief in your own

14:58

resilience is so powerful because it means

15:00

that even if you try to day

15:02

and it is really hard and all

15:04

your worst nightmares about it come true.

15:06

About starting over come true you're like

15:08

I'm actually. Okay, I can be okay

15:11

no matter what happened and it sounds

15:13

like to meet your situation Interesting because

15:15

I almost feel like you built the

15:17

belief in your own resilience by going

15:19

through the hard thing. Yeah, I also

15:22

think that a kind of ties into

15:24

this bet. When I was younger, I

15:26

never dated Gray. I think I one

15:28

place and my entire life. Like before

15:30

I got married which is. Not.

15:33

Okay, you said day when you're getting

15:35

because that's when you're figuring out what

15:37

it is that you like. What is

15:39

is that you don't like and you

15:41

kind of developed his appetite up like

15:43

okay, this is my boundary re but

15:46

if you don't know what your boundaries,

15:48

you will learn that the hard way.

15:50

When I think about women now in

15:52

the thirties and forties. A. Lot

15:54

of them. They don't really know what they

15:56

want because they also. Didn't. Really

15:58

get the opportunity to date around a figure

16:01

out what it, and it's never too late

16:03

to do that. For mean the

16:05

first three years. Of by a post

16:07

applies to like figure out what it

16:09

is that I liked what I thought

16:11

I was not allowed to do and

16:13

again. Can are going back to

16:15

kids is that. I never

16:17

brought any guys home because I thought

16:19

that was than upset my parents. When.

16:23

My kids start dating. I

16:26

want to have an open door policy. Words

16:28

like bring Them In Lake My House is

16:30

your house because I want that openness. I

16:32

want people to feel like you to bring

16:34

people in and out and it's not that

16:37

big of a deal. It's been a big

16:39

learning experience for me. This is what else

16:41

is on your it's never too late list.

16:44

A lot of things, but. Okay,

16:46

kind of going back to. Being

16:49

a work like a workaholic like

16:51

oh working moms. I've always

16:54

identified. A. Lot

16:56

with my masculinity

16:58

side. Because.

17:01

One, I think I was

17:03

the breadwinner of the household.

17:05

And so. I felt

17:07

like I had to way on my shoulder

17:10

Ray and I had to my provide for

17:12

the family and makes everyone was happy and

17:14

I didn't. Allow anyone

17:16

else to take care of me. And

17:18

so. When. I was

17:20

single for the first time. I.

17:23

Had to really unlearned my side of

17:25

like okay. I. Don't have to

17:28

do everything for everyone anymore, right? And

17:30

so. I think it's

17:33

never too late to be in touch with.

17:35

Your. Authentic. Side.

17:37

Whether it's be the feminists are the

17:40

math and science and to have fun

17:42

and a thing that.com was with that

17:44

element of have nearly the playfulness the

17:46

sauce Nurse I. Be able to decide be

17:48

a little bit more free. Are so

17:50

serious Hours I I was such

17:52

a serious person back then because

17:54

at some new responsibilities. Or

17:56

last part of that? How about quality?

17:59

And so. I remembered the first

18:01

time and I was going to

18:03

buy divorced or and colbert so

18:05

it's very very hard but the

18:07

first time post divorce and cope

18:09

it was kind. Of like ending And

18:11

so I went. Out to the world

18:13

and I I remember feeling so. Giddy

18:16

and gately because I started noticing things

18:18

I was present for the first time.

18:20

I remember it's like calling on my

18:23

best friend Linda and are that oh

18:25

my god assault. On

18:27

butterflies. In my stomach when

18:29

I saw this person and I

18:31

haven't thought that in a while.

18:34

And so it's never too late

18:36

to get butterflies, never too late

18:38

to be playful to be tell

18:40

bike even in your thirties forties,

18:42

fifties. Sends

18:45

we have got to talk about

18:47

something that I've been seen that

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is driving me nuts. Please please

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please do Not ever really eat

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is definitively agreed on bites every

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expert that I've interviewed that it

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you. But. The good news

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Adam. And.

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What I love about you is that

22:55

you still are this powerful business woman.

22:57

You're not saying you have to be

22:59

one or the other, you're saying it

23:01

can actually be bows and I had

23:04

lost one side of myself in this

23:06

process. I realize that even my own

23:08

relationship, I've made more money than my

23:11

partner dies and there's so many ways

23:13

see can make me feel taking care

23:15

of that aren't just the financial elements

23:17

and I've had to open myself up

23:20

to been taking care of and as

23:22

ways. Which is really important thing I

23:24

love that that you bring that

23:26

up because I think money is

23:28

just one element right one element.

23:31

Our. Responsibilities of who we are. Money

23:33

a damn day. It's just value that

23:36

were putting on a piece of paper.

23:38

but I think especially when men are

23:40

not feeling. Super. Confident with them,

23:43

All the sunday feel like they're not. Bringing.

23:47

Any value to the table when they

23:49

can no longer be that. Person. But

23:51

what they have to realize And what

23:53

I had to realize is that there's

23:55

so many other elements of me that

23:57

need to be taken care of. I

24:00

didn't realize that before. Like my soul.

24:02

nice to be taken care of, any

24:04

be nourished. I have emotions I have

24:06

sensitivities that I didn't realize I had

24:08

before. They block them off. It was

24:10

kind of our survival tactic for me

24:12

I didn't allow. And you want to

24:15

come in because I didn't want to

24:17

get her? There's no room for error

24:19

at that point. but when you let

24:21

go of that, you realize that there's

24:23

so many needs that we have as

24:25

slim in and it doesn't make you

24:27

less strong. That doesn't make you less.

24:30

Powerful just because you allow

24:32

a man or another person.

24:35

Take care of those needs for

24:37

you. War. And similarly, I think there's

24:39

a lot of needs this manner realizing

24:41

that they have that society hasn't told

24:43

them yet they are allowed to have

24:45

or that their space of I think

24:47

we're all trying to. Fight.

24:49

Back from this cultural narrative that's

24:51

existed for literally hundreds and thousands

24:54

of years and reestablish We want

24:56

to be in our relationships, which

24:58

is really hard to do. Yeah,

25:00

it really is because it goes

25:02

back. So. Many hundreds

25:04

and thousands of years ago of what

25:06

amounts has to I know what a

25:08

woman was stupid. Things.

25:10

Have changed. Things have evolved and. Laws.

25:14

And even like divorce and

25:16

like none. Of those have changed and

25:18

kept up with the times. Now a

25:20

lot of women are making more money

25:22

than men are. They're equal partners and

25:24

things should reflect that. And I know

25:26

it's hard because. I don't

25:28

think the What has caught up to that. Yeah, yeah, and

25:30

I get has either. I think there's a lot of same.

25:32

There's a lot as. It. Is unspoken feelings

25:35

on all sides about that type of stuff and I

25:37

think we need to bring it out into the public.

25:39

You said in one of your videos you been thinking

25:41

about Money Seth a lot recently and you know what

25:43

you're thinking about When he said that equal myself has

25:45

been on your mind. Yes, I

25:48

have. I haven't really gotten

25:50

into because at the money is a

25:52

tricky subject and it's funny because whenever.

25:54

I talk about me paying alimony.

25:56

To my ex husband. Dot. Is

25:58

not be talking. It

26:01

is just. What? I

26:03

do a fact a fat but

26:05

it's funny because whenever I post

26:07

about that. Not just

26:10

man, Mainly. Women are

26:12

like. I can't

26:14

believe that you're talking down on your

26:16

ex. But. I'm like. No.

26:19

This is where it's culturally wrong

26:21

because when a man says oh,

26:24

I'm paying alimony to my ex

26:26

wife. It's like. Water.

26:28

Over Doc. Stop right as like you won't. Even. Think

26:31

about it at all. But when a woman

26:33

said, stop all this and and I'm.

26:36

Talking shit, it's not. And that

26:38

is where we have to change

26:40

the narrative. Money is literally just.

26:43

Value that we put on a piece

26:45

of paper? None other than that, it

26:47

does it mean, does one person is

26:49

more powerful than the other because one

26:52

person is paying the other person whether

26:54

it's a man or eleven. And I

26:56

think that's where it began. And I

26:58

think we put so much power into

27:00

the value of what money represents. We

27:03

all need to kind of change the

27:05

narrative of. What? Money

27:07

really means to people. It's

27:10

really interesting so I kind of

27:12

stop posting about him because for

27:14

me, it was really important that

27:16

my girls. Have a

27:19

clear understanding of. How

27:21

money works. Rape. Because when

27:24

you understand, then they're able

27:26

to make smarter choices. But

27:28

the minute that I talked about that

27:30

than. A. Lot of people. Assume

27:33

that it's degrading the man, but

27:35

it's not. It's just common knowledge

27:37

that Air B One men and

27:39

women, should know. I love

27:42

that you. Are trying to take

27:44

some of the power away from the money

27:46

to? they do think it is crazy if

27:48

somebody had a lot of money even if

27:50

it's inherited money they did nothing to earn

27:52

s But we listen to them on a

27:55

societal level were like oh, their opinions hold.

27:57

Wait, they're valuable. They should be allowed to

27:59

speak. They have the power of

28:01

this money even if it is by

28:03

nothing they have done themselves. Yeah, so

28:05

fascinating. Yes it is really fascinating and

28:07

I think again economy is how we

28:10

were all. Raised to think about

28:12

money and how he not coming

28:14

from an immigrant. Home

28:16

money was so touched.

28:19

Are great because immigrant. Families

28:21

he worked so hard to come to

28:23

America. Every penny and time they've earned

28:25

was so hard earned. Said: There are

28:28

so much value and so much power.

28:30

Around a single dollar raise.

28:32

And so even as I was going through

28:34

this whole process with alimony. For

28:37

me of course in the beginning was very very

28:39

hard because. I. Didn't

28:41

understand the laws and how work and

28:43

I was just coming to understanding which

28:45

is another passion of mine for. Kids.

28:48

Women: Men: Girls.

28:50

Boy everyone to understand the thought.

28:52

for getting married rates but I think

28:55

for me. When. I really

28:57

understood what was going on. Als

28:59

ik okay well. I.

29:02

At least have the ability.

29:04

To pay this alimony. and I

29:07

am grateful because out least that

29:09

I get to. Support my

29:11

kids. And their dad to continue

29:13

to live this life and continued to

29:15

be able to do what they wanted

29:17

to. and thank God that I am

29:19

in a position where I can do

29:21

that re when I saw talking to

29:23

my mom about that might korean mom

29:25

says like. When

29:28

are you talking about? You are

29:30

absolutely crazy and so. It.

29:33

Really stems back of how are

29:35

parents sued? Muddy re secede, Didn't

29:37

want you to part with any

29:39

money. Voice: Easy to understand the

29:41

logic of me. Be. Grateful.

29:44

That I. Get to pay

29:46

alimony. Because for me once I accepted

29:48

it, it was what it was. So I

29:51

did have any hard feelings about it when

29:53

my mom does had such a hard time

29:55

understanding that but it's sending back to. How

29:58

are parents? Dot. Of

30:00

money and how they raised as so

30:03

it's really about. I'm learning a lot

30:05

of these patterns and habits and thought.

30:07

and the power.our families and appearance on

30:09

these adults put our own money. and

30:11

I'm not saying that. You. Know

30:13

there's no value of Courses Valley. It

30:16

allows you to do the things that

30:18

you wanted to. but I still outside

30:20

of the monetary value that some talking

30:22

about. the I recognized the limits of

30:25

the value of money. And yeah, I

30:27

mean that's really powerful. Can. We

30:29

talk for a business for a second, ask

30:31

for it, will get back into relationships that

30:33

but I wanna talk about sorry because it

30:35

is this incredibly successful fragrance company and what

30:37

I think it's particularly interests in his debts.

30:39

Fragrance existed before you launch your company and

30:41

fragrances existed for really long time and a

30:44

lot of people will have an idea for

30:46

business and then they'll say oh, I can't

30:48

do that, that's already out there. How did

30:50

you. Know. What

30:52

you had with different enough. How did you

30:54

know with an idea worth pursuing? How did

30:57

the inception of that business start? And.

31:00

When it. Becomes. Li transparent with you. I

31:02

did it. Absolutely did.

31:04

And I think this is the were.

31:08

Going back to that that feelings. Really?

31:11

came into place at the map. A very

31:13

song intuition either. Very strong. Night

31:16

in. Or debt ceiling And so

31:18

when I was approached. With this opportunity

31:20

to acquire flair with that

31:22

this partner now been bennett.

31:26

I. Was going through my divorce hours

31:28

in the middle of a crisis

31:30

and he calls me up and

31:32

he is. I had is a

31:34

great opportunity for us to relaunch,

31:36

supplier and and relaunch this migrants

31:38

spend flair. Were detained. And.

31:42

I thought you're crazy idol how the

31:44

month old band with the emotional bandwidth

31:46

to do this. Right now I'm going

31:48

through a major life crisis and there's

31:51

something inside of me where I kept

31:53

going back to him. As

31:55

for about a month and I'll say.

31:58

When. He feels so I just. Replaying that may

32:00

I like. What if that works out. And

32:03

then then called me and he said

32:05

you know Fleur is. Coming.

32:08

Into a second chapter net size.

32:11

And. So are you. An

32:13

idea. That. This

32:16

is a great opportunity for.

32:19

You to feel to tell your

32:21

stories. As you get

32:23

a both come into this new era. And.

32:26

That really stuck with me at that point.

32:28

I didn't really know what these stories recommend

32:30

be I was just. Heartbroken, And.

32:35

So. At that moment I was like okay, Yeah.

32:37

You're right, let's do it. But still,

32:39

I was like. Attorney says so far

32:41

out there is a lot of. The

32:43

doubt and between all I knew how to

32:45

do really was. This. Deep.

32:49

Desire. Within me of wanting

32:51

to share these stories that were

32:53

in my heart to the world

32:55

but through a sand. And

32:58

at the time are very first

33:00

fragrances missing person. We

33:03

were developing missing Preston with our nose.

33:06

Job and I was like is there any

33:08

way to bottle up something that. Smells.

33:13

Like. The. Lovers

33:15

Scan or something that feels

33:17

like Skyn where you feel

33:19

cozy and more. Men Love.

33:22

Because at that point, that's it. As paving

33:25

said, my life, I was made. For eight

33:27

years that noise of for Fifteen years. And

33:29

so the hardest thing for me was

33:31

being alone and sell crazy intimacy. I

33:34

was. Crazy and. To.

33:36

Ceiling loved and warmth. And

33:38

so that's how missing person

33:40

was born. Was just my

33:42

own desire and need for

33:44

wanting to be loved. And

33:46

because that story was so.

33:48

Authentic. And. That related

33:51

or not everyone's going to do. I

33:53

deplore as I get that, but everyone

33:55

wants to be loved, whether it's to

33:57

receive up to give. Well, whatever that

33:59

is that. They are very first sad when

34:01

we launched Flair. And

34:03

it went so viral on the

34:06

internet. We had a

34:08

two hundred thousand person wait lists.

34:10

This is something that we couldn't

34:12

have ever, ever imagined. Because first

34:15

of all, Does. The said

34:17

that no one has ever smelt before. We

34:19

weren't not. At. Any kellner so you

34:21

couldn't lakes good account of be like when we

34:23

tested on see if I like it. So

34:26

people were purely getting on the sweetness.

34:29

By. This are most and

34:31

of wanting to be loved. I

34:33

think it's such a powerful and genius

34:35

thing that you identified, which is that

34:38

people don't want to buy a products.

34:40

they want to buy a ceiling. And.

34:43

So. Many business owners I think could

34:45

take wisdom from that because they're trying to

34:47

sell people products and what people want is

34:50

the feeling that as a result of that

34:52

product, whether it's feeling com or because you've

34:54

offered them some sort of service, weathered, feeling

34:56

loved and something that's more esoteric like that.

34:59

But people are trying to sell products in

35:01

what you identified as we need to sell

35:03

feelings. Yeah, absolutely. I think that was the

35:05

power of missing person and I think quickly

35:08

as to die and. Look, you

35:10

could tell me that sorry. But.

35:12

If your product is set then. You're

35:16

done array it's like a right and

35:18

I for every way that it could

35:20

only get you so far and citing

35:22

because. The. Said was so

35:24

beautiful. And. When people received

35:27

it. If you go on to talk

35:29

any type in Flair missing person you

35:31

will see thousands and thousands. Of

35:33

videos. Of. Customers.

35:36

Staying it. In tears,

35:39

crying. Sharing. Their

35:41

own personal moment. Of I have

35:43

lit reminds them of are who they miss

35:45

and it became more than a sense of

35:47

a lover, it became a sense of law

35:50

because to far as saying like oh this

35:52

reminds me of my mom she passed away

35:54

and it just allow them to share. Their.

35:57

Deep and most sense and

35:59

said miss. Impressed and became

36:01

therapy for people. Became a

36:03

place where they. Were. Allowed to

36:06

feel and because that was

36:08

our first sent and. As.

36:10

Sold out. And again you

36:12

can never planned for by reality. I always see

36:15

can always. Hope. For a weekend.

36:17

Plan for it. And so we

36:19

were at a stop for months

36:22

and because of the fear of.

36:25

Them not be able to get their

36:27

hands on missing person. Every single said

36:29

start selling out and every single cent

36:31

had a story. Not your baby days.

36:34

Me: Going through. My

36:36

hot girl phase. And

36:39

it was more of an

36:41

attitude. It was attitude of

36:43

wanting. To feel so confident

36:45

and good. I'm obsessed with the film

36:47

Scarface and Michelle Pfeiffer in that when

36:49

seen that I can exceed and for

36:52

being like I am not your baby

36:54

don't call me a baby and that

36:56

that's where that's that was inspired by.

36:58

It's like you feel so good in

37:00

your skin and your body feels so

37:02

five minutes. But not

37:04

for anyone else, but for yourself. And so

37:07

that's how not your baby was born. I

37:09

love that. Yeah, is there any advice you'd

37:11

give to somebody who's may be. New.

37:13

To lean on an idea for business that they

37:15

want to launch maybe they don't have a strong

37:17

of A.son is their advice you'd give to them

37:20

to know whether or not they should go for

37:22

it. I. Think it's baby steps. A

37:24

lot of people. They deserve this. Really?

37:27

Big picture Which as important as we

37:29

talked about having a big pool, having

37:31

an idea of what direction you wanna

37:33

go in for you immediately have to

37:35

park that aside and then go back

37:37

to the next immediate think that there

37:39

is be. Okay, I.

37:41

Just read that one email. Okay,

37:43

that's the next thing. Okay, what it?

37:46

And those tiny little baby steps or

37:48

benchley? get it to a place where

37:50

you like. Oh. I. Didn't realize

37:52

that I actually got this far. so. You

37:55

never. Want. To get

37:58

overwhelmed. With. You. Because

38:00

and I see this happen

38:02

all the time. He blood,

38:04

disease, massive amounts of gold,

38:06

these massive dreams. but it

38:08

almost hinders them. And no

38:10

of. That would be nice

38:12

if it happened but there's no way that

38:14

could happen because as too far have a

38:17

dream for me. So it's like how do

38:19

you fractionate Dan how to divide it up

38:21

so it's not that big. Michael Little things.

38:24

That. To make a big difference but also

38:26

a boost your confidence to along the way

38:28

when you. Start. Making those schools and

38:30

those tiny goals. And he started

38:32

like tuck, marking off the schools

38:34

it builds. This. Confidence and

38:36

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38:39

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38:41

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a lot soon. Advice question from somebody

45:00

the road and and said I'm just

45:03

starting to thrive in my career and

45:05

I'm also in my mid thirties. I

45:07

know I want kids eventually them terrified

45:09

to have them right now and derail

45:11

the career success I worked so hard

45:13

for. said i take the career, sat

45:15

back and have kids or stay put

45:17

off kids longer but maybe risk fertility

45:19

issues help. You. Have

45:21

kids and I'm particularly. Curious

45:24

about your advice on this in terms

45:26

of how having kids has impacted your

45:28

ability to have the career success that

45:30

you want to have. I

45:33

always tell people that. Yeah, you

45:35

could. Do. It all but

45:37

something's gonna get. In

45:40

between. It. Would be unrealistic for me

45:42

to be like you to be the best

45:44

mom and the best entrepreneur And the best.

45:46

Worker. It's literally. Says

45:49

simply impossible and socialist state.

45:51

This is something that I

45:53

deal with way I run

45:55

multiple businesses. I. Call

45:57

parents said I'd be.

46:00

More. Present. I'd be there from absolutely

46:02

I can, but that's a sacrifice

46:04

it I decide to make that.

46:07

For me to be able to

46:09

do. What I love to do but also

46:11

to be able to provide for my family eventually

46:13

as well. It's not realistic from it's it as

46:15

a guilt goes. Away, But I think you're able

46:18

to park your guilt a little bit better

46:20

and be like, okay, This is

46:22

what I'm doing. and I'm doing the best

46:24

that I can now. Something's gonna

46:26

get at some point. Grey. But

46:30

either way, whether you decide

46:32

to. Just focus on your

46:35

career. And it's all you're

46:37

doing is like thinking about kids and being like

46:39

us. I do it. That

46:43

could be a ray. Because.

46:46

It never gets easier. It really does

46:48

it right. When you have kids you

46:50

will figure it out. Will you have

46:52

more things that shop will? Absolutely. Will

46:54

you feel a little bit crazy? Absolutely.

46:56

But you will figure it out and

46:58

your results will still be spectacular. But

47:00

will you be there with your kids?

47:02

Twenty four seven? probably not and of

47:04

task and and give you an immense

47:07

amount of feel. That

47:09

utter know it's the right time.

47:11

My sister's a great example. She

47:13

just had our first daughter and.

47:16

Because. She's had so many friends

47:19

already have kids and he me beat

47:21

adults as as see me go through

47:23

it seems very much like. I'm

47:27

working and. I'm not with my

47:29

daughter all the time and that's okay and

47:31

she's learned to like. kind of let that.

47:33

Part girl and she was ready for it. So. That

47:35

I know this is gonna be the reality

47:37

than than a B C seem. So I

47:39

think as long as you know what the

47:41

reality is gonna be. Have you not

47:44

being able to be with your child all the

47:46

time? You'll actually find the

47:48

time suppose. But it's about the

47:50

guilt, the emotional aspect. I

47:53

think women have a hard time managing

47:55

once they become a mother and have

47:57

their businesses to run. Do. You think

47:59

that's have. Encourage made. It

48:01

harder for you to achieve. The levels of

48:03

success that you've achieved order to make it easier

48:05

in some way. Or how do you think it

48:07

impacted that. It's. Hard for me

48:09

to say because my. Career.

48:13

Rose their the same time I had. My.

48:16

Kids My first daughter who's nine

48:18

years old. Belle Isle. As a

48:20

blogger, you know, Fifteen

48:22

years ago, but it didn't really take

48:25

off and the inner wasn't really ready

48:27

for it's. been around when Chloe was.

48:29

Born that's and this are really taking our

48:32

fans resorting to pay content creators to work

48:34

with them. Go to Fast Away Travel do

48:36

I'll be sobs for me I had no

48:38

choice but to figure out a way I

48:41

knew that's what I had fun of Me

48:43

was very very special. What this opportunity? Have

48:45

been one of the first.

48:48

Bloggers of our times, Some

48:50

bloggers and a lot of

48:52

opportunities. Coming my when that that probably

48:54

wouldn't have been. I

48:57

mean maybe it could have happened later on by knew

48:59

that it was a very rare at that time and

49:01

place as I took full. Advantage

49:03

of that while I was being a

49:05

mom and so. You know,

49:08

I had a lot of support. My parents would

49:10

always come down to help me when I to

49:12

go on websites. I figured it out. But

49:16

those. Are facts But I do

49:18

like there is an element with your

49:20

life. I guess there's a through line

49:22

of like leaping first and having faith

49:24

in yourself that you will be able

49:27

to make it work somehow even if

49:29

it's different than what you pictured. Yeah,

49:31

I think that's. Been. To

49:34

my advantage and disadvantage

49:36

is. I'm just a

49:38

risk taker. I don't know how

49:40

to do like any other way. I love

49:42

taking risks. I love the idea of like.

49:45

When is it works out? For and everything

49:47

even with having kids like what is it

49:50

works I would if I being a mom

49:52

is like. The most amazing Clueless

49:54

the Ray and said life Asus

49:56

deluxe like have kids and I'll

49:58

figure it out that. That's my thing.

50:00

I will always figure it out. And

50:03

I think that has been the through line of

50:05

my entire life is that I know I'm a

50:07

solution oriented person. I will always find

50:09

a way. I will always figure out some

50:12

sort of solution. Sometimes

50:15

I won't and that's okay. I'll learn from that as well. But

50:17

more of the times I will figure out a way. What

50:20

if it works out? What a powerful thing

50:22

to say in any situation. I think we

50:24

spend so much time. I struggle with anxiety.

50:26

So I'm often in my head thinking about

50:29

all of the ways it might not work

50:31

out. But just countering that. What

50:33

if it works out? Yeah. And I think

50:36

that's also a way to rewire your brain.

50:38

I think we're all in a place of

50:40

like, especially once you get older, you're like,

50:43

okay, like I'm at this age of what if it doesn't work

50:45

out, right? But I think for

50:48

me, I've always lived my life of

50:50

what if it works out? And

50:52

what is the worst thing that could possibly happen? And

50:55

usually it's not that bad. If it's like, oh, the business

50:57

is going to fail. It's not going to work out. Okay,

50:59

great. Then I'll go look for a job. It's fine. I

51:02

mean, it might be hard, but I'll figure it out. But the

51:04

idea of me not knowing would kill me far

51:07

more than trying and failing.

51:11

Let's do one more. As

51:13

a planner and someone who likes to be

51:15

in control, I'm struggling to support my partner

51:18

in their goals without parenting them or feeling

51:20

resentful when they don't take my advice. Please

51:22

help. I know it's hard, especially

51:24

when you're in a relationship and you

51:26

feel like you have a lot of advice or things

51:28

that you want to see for them. But I

51:31

think everyone I learned

51:34

this from my previous relationship is that

51:36

what's that thing? It's

51:39

like, oh, God, I can't even remember. I

51:41

can't even remember the same, but pretty much

51:44

you can't force anyone. You can bring them.

51:46

Is it leading the horse to water?

51:50

You can lead the horse to the water, but you can never make it drink.

51:53

So you go for someone to get to

51:55

where they're supposed to be

51:57

and where you think that they will be. feel

52:00

the most motivated and the

52:03

most excited about what they're supposed to do be

52:05

really responsible and proactive

52:07

but Actually

52:11

having to do the work you can't

52:13

do that. They have to do that I'm

52:15

assuming that this is a woman who's writing this is

52:18

that we all kind

52:20

of have to just learn to Let

52:23

go and that was really hard

52:25

for me because I was doing that in my

52:27

previous marriage before and it was Trying

52:31

to show all the opportunities But like what am

52:33

I gonna do like open their mouth and like

52:35

make them know you can't like they have to

52:37

want They have to have that desire to

52:39

want to take the next step to take action I

52:43

think learning when to act and when to

52:45

let go is a really powerful thing, too

52:47

And the biggest thing I think we can

52:49

do which I think you're really doing with

52:52

your daughters is helping people build belief in

52:54

themselves Versus saying you should

52:56

do this you should do this you should do this

52:58

But if they have the belief in the trust in

53:00

themselves, then they'll do the thing that they should be

53:02

actually doing It's definitely a little easier with kids and

53:05

grown adults But yes, I agree because that's my number

53:07

one thing with my kids Is that because I co-parent

53:09

that I'm only with them 50% of the time? Could

53:13

I be doing everything for them? Could I be

53:15

making their beds for them? Could I be cleaning for

53:17

them? Could I be? You know

53:20

Getting them which I used to do when I

53:22

was married because it's just more efficient Like you

53:24

want to get out the house like if you

53:27

do it the adult does it it's

53:29

so much faster than Allowing the

53:31

kids to learn and do it. My

53:33

daughter Chloe just learned how to tie her shoe and

53:37

It takes her forever to tie her shoe The

53:41

amount of times where I want to interject like let me just do

53:43

it But I don't I

53:45

let her do it because it takes

53:47

time for them to learn but once

53:49

they learn they've become very very confident

53:51

and They're self-sufficient

53:53

and that's the best relationship you

53:56

could have whether it be with

53:58

your partner or with your kids

54:00

is where they feel confident and motivated

54:02

that they can do it on their

54:05

own. And so my whole

54:07

philosophy with parenting with

54:09

the girls now is if they can

54:11

do it, they're going to do it. I'm not

54:13

going to do it because what if

54:15

they're at their dad's house and

54:18

I'm not there. It's like the

54:20

same thing with tying their hair. Their dad

54:22

doesn't really tie their hair, but

54:25

Chloe learned how to braid her own hair. So she now

54:27

braids her own hair at school because she loves her hair

54:29

braided. And so I'm not there to

54:31

do that for her. She'll do it on her own and she'll

54:33

help her sister as well. And that

54:35

is the best gift I think you give

54:38

anybody, any partner, any child is the confidence

54:40

to do it on their own. Can

54:42

you leave us with just a piece of

54:44

advice that you've received that changed your life?

54:47

There's no easy way around things. I

54:49

don't know if it's advice or it's just

54:51

life experience. Because

54:55

there's no shortcut to it.

54:57

I have a few friends that are going through a

54:59

really, really hard time and I'm kind of like the

55:01

hotline now of like when people are going

55:04

through a rough time. They're like, can

55:06

you tell me a friend did what you did to get there? And

55:08

I'm like, I

55:10

can tell you, but you're going to have

55:12

to go through it yourself. And that is

55:14

the only way to actually

55:16

get through it. And

55:18

so is one, be patient

55:22

and go through the emotions, go through

55:24

the hard times. It's

55:26

not going to last forever. And that's one thing that

55:28

I knew. I knew that

55:31

this too will pass, anything will pass. The

55:33

good times and the bad times. And

55:36

that is probably the best advice that I kind of

55:38

hung on to during the hard times because

55:40

I knew that things will get better

55:43

eventually. But while you're in

55:45

those hard times, you

55:47

just have to go through it yourself and

55:49

feel all of it. And you're more resilient

55:51

than you think in all of that. Oh yeah.

55:54

You are absolutely more resilient and you'll

55:57

come out of it with a new

55:59

understanding. of me died like during

56:01

that process. But then a new

56:04

version of me has appeared through that

56:06

process. And during that that though,

56:08

it was really, really hard. I wasn't sure if I was going to

56:10

get through it. But once

56:13

this new person has appeared, you're just a whole person. And

56:15

I think that's the best way to describe it. It's like

56:17

once you get through it, you feel

56:19

whole, like a whole human. Oh,

56:21

I have full body tingles. I love that. Do

56:23

you want to tell us a little bit about

56:25

anything you're excited about? Anything you want to spotlight

56:27

in your own words? I'm

56:30

just excited that we get to have these conversations

56:33

now. I think, you

56:35

know, a lot of people know me for my fashion

56:38

and beauty content and me being the founder of Flirb.

56:40

And I think before it was all about

56:42

portraying this like perfect life

56:44

on the internet, but I love

56:47

that the internet is now shifting. I mean, we still

56:49

have a lot of work to do, but the internet

56:51

is shifting in a way where we're showing,

56:53

we're pulling the curtains and we're saying,

56:55

no, my life isn't perfect.

56:58

And I'm just really excited that more people

57:00

are showcasing

57:03

the hard times that they're going through. And I think that

57:06

that is what makes the world

57:08

a better place for the future generation. You know, I think

57:10

a lot about my girls and what they're going to

57:12

eventually see on the internet. They're not on the internet

57:14

yet, but you know, I don't

57:16

want them to think that life is easy

57:18

and perfect because that's what they see. It's

57:20

really about realness and rawness and openness

57:23

and just having these open connections with

57:25

people. Another thing that I'm really excited

57:27

about since I talk about missing person

57:30

or first fragrance, we just launched missing

57:32

person body oil and it

57:35

is like a 360 experience of

57:37

what I went through, but

57:39

missing person body oil is a

57:41

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57:45

again, kind of going back to the idea of

57:48

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57:50

feeling like there's someone

57:52

next to you. It

57:54

is the most beautiful oil where you just feel

57:56

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57:59

on my body. every night and

58:01

it just brings so much comfort. And

58:03

that's what I'm so excited about

58:05

is for people that just

58:08

feel like they

58:11

want love in their life that are seeking love,

58:14

can experience love in

58:16

this physical form element

58:19

while they're kind of going on their journey. So I

58:21

love that too. And also self touch, self love,

58:24

self massage triggers a whole

58:26

cascading positive hormonal release in your brain.

58:29

Absolutely. Yeah. Get a massage with a missing

58:31

person body oil. Yes, or do a self

58:33

massage with it. Yeah, self love. We love

58:35

it. Well, thank you so much, Kristal. Thank

58:37

you for having me. This is amazing. What

58:40

if it all worked out? I'm

58:42

100% tucking that question into

58:44

my pocket and I'll be pulling it out

58:47

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will see you on Wednesday in two very

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short days for the next episode of the

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Liz Moody podcast. My

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favorite health hacks are the ones that have

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the biggest payoffs for the smallest amounts of

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effort. And this is such a good one.

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When you are drinking your tea or coffee

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in the morning, just add one packet or

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scoop of Great Lakes Wellness collagen peptides. I

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definitely was a bit of a collagen skeptic

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until I had dermatologist Dr. Whitney Bowe on

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the podcast, you can scroll back to her

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Ask the Doctor episode. She said it is

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not a myth. There is research to support

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how great collagen is for your skin. And

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then of course, I did my own deep

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dive, and I was so impressed with the

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known benefits for things like your skin, your

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hair and your joint health. Studies

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show that collagen can help improve your

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skin's hydration, which is something that I

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am especially looking for during this time

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of year when everything just feels a

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little bit drier. Zach likes the

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marine collagen and then I like the

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grass fed beef collagen, but both are

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incredibly well sourced and certified by

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third parties, which is the number

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one thing that I look for. And

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since I've started incorporating collagen into my

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everyday routine, I have noticed strong and

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healthy nails and my hair feels thicker

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and fuller, which we love. And

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Zach's knees are feeling so good despite all

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of the time that he is spending running.

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One of my favorite things about the Great

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Lakes Wellness College and Peptides is that I

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cannot taste them at all and

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they dissolve so well in hot and

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cold beverages. Not all collagen

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can dissolve in cold beverages and some days you

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just want an iced tea. To

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try out Great Lakes Wellness, collagen packets or

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their bigger tabs use code Lismooty for 25%

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off. Yes, 25% off. That

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is a huge discount. Off of

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your first purchase at Great Lakes Wellness

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dot com. That is Lismooty for 25%

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off at Great Lakes Wellness dot com.