Jen has strong feelings about the phrase, "If you build it, they will come," and with Pete, they noodle on possible improvements and rewrites.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• Why is an invitation necessary when engaging other people in your work?
• How might we validate our work while in the process of making it?
• Why might inviting people to witness our projects be a scary thing to do? And how might we overcome that fear?

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