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Listen, if you dare, to
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the Lovecraft Tapes.
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Welcome to the Lovecraft Tapes
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podcast. This is Case Fifteen,
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The Crosses. I am Jeremy, Keeper
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of Arcane Lore,
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and we play Call of Cthulhu, a role-playing
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game filled with cosmic horror, existential
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dread, and Taco Bell fire sauce
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squirted directly into your eyeballs for only 50
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cents extra. Does it have to be the
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eyeballs? Can I choose a different place?
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Your investigators of the unknown are
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Brian as Ben. Hi I'm
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Ben. Matt as Kyle. Hi
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I'm Dad. And Lupine as Rosa.
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Hiiii Rosa. Question
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mark. Well welcome players. Tonight
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of Instant Glass, Benjamin King, Bifford,
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Lonely Boxcars, Sarah Wiley, Smagmas
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Grendel-Gung, Tomas. Thanks
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guys, appreciate all that. I
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know people. Now,
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dear investigators, we recap.
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Case 15, LaCrosse's. Previously
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on the Lovecraft Tapes. Ben,
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Rosa and Kyle thought
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their summer vacation would be filled
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with laughter, adventure, and
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preparation for their first year of high
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school in the fall. Unbeknownst
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to anyone, an ancient stone
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of questionable origins surfaced
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in the woods near the local hot springs
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in Las Cruces. Seating
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an infection which spread to the
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surrounding flora and fauna, then
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on to the citizenry. Our
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young investigators scrambled desperately
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to find a solution to the outbreak without
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realizing the insidious
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enemy.
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had already infiltrated their
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ranks. Alright
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guys, let's A some Qs! We
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will also be monitoring live chat for
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any last minute questions, so if something comes up
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feel free to throw us some curveballs there and
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we'll do our best to take a swing at them.
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I will monitor chat
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for any late submissions. John
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Scarcella asks,
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When Kyle got fungus cloned,
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why did his duplicate continue
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to help the group when the other
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replacements like Uncle John were out
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to get them? My thought was that
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maybe it really was him,
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but he got severed from
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the clone that was starting to form and
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it was still taking him over but really slowly
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enough for him to remain himself until it
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was too late. I sort of had John Carpenter's
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The Thing in mind. So what
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The Thing wants to do is it wants to infiltrate
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the group without giving away
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its identity. So I think ultimately
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that's what the Kyle clone was attempting
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to do. When you think about Uncle
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John
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was out to get them, well not
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really, he just sort of wanted to get Kyle.
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So it was a one on one situation and as
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we know it John Carpenter's The Thing, they
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always want to try to get in a room with just one other
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person. So that was the genesis
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of all that, just roughly speaking. I
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didn't have exactly John Carpenter's
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The Thing in mind but it was that sort
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of intention that I thought made
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the most sense. I like it. I
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knew there was going to be some confusion
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about why would Kyle continue
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to go along with the whole thing but I paid
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very careful attention as to when he
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was handling the
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Myconazole powder. Oh, okay.
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And the NPCs would step in and make sure that
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he wasn't handling it. Oh,
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okay. That makes sense. There was opportunity
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for Kyle to do something stupid. I tried
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several times but, you know. It didn't really
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happen. When you were like, I'll carry both
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things but in the event that
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something would have happened and it got not
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him. It would have been revealed. Obviously,
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I didn't have anything written for
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the ultimate thing what happened to him
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until we were to that point in
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the very last episode. John, I hope
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that answers your question. Brian,
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do you have a question for Lupine? Two-part question.
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How was your first experience working with
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the Lovecraft tapes? And how much do we
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have to pay you to stay?
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I found everyone really welcoming
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and it was really great. I was nervous
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that people would tend to see me as
6:29
coming in and taking over
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something that had already happened. But I
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really
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appreciate all the support
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that I've gotten from you guys and from the
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community. It made me feel like I'd
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found a new family.
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And how much? How much? About tree fitting.
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I like stickers. Stickers are good. I
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just came across, you know how Google pops
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up your memories from five years ago.
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It was a picture of a back of a
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box and our sticker was on it. And
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it was in the photos of when we went to Ireland.
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The Lovecraft tapes, what's this? What
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the fuck is the Lovecraft tapes? Why are they
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putting their damn stickers all over our castles?
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Brian and Jeremy running in the background. Giggling.
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Prophet of Woe wants to know what, if
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any, was the decision to run as
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youngsters in this case? How did it affect
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your decision making? Do you think it added more
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difficulty or tension?
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As for the first part of that question, was
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it me that wanted to do it? I'm pretty sure it was
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your idea. Yep. To start young.
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Because the innocence and the wonder
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of the world, you can, everything is new
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and chime-y. We went through the gauntlet
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of having Delta Green agents
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or FBI agents or whatever, you
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know, like people who had baggage
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and that's fun to play too. But I
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just kind of wanted to go a different direction and I was sort
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of like in a Spielberg mood. I thought,
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what if we just did something that was
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pretty like teenagers? But, you know,
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I wanted to avoid the whole stranger things comparison
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because I was not trying to go that route.
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I was really actually kind of nervous. when
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you told me that we were playing kids.
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And I usually avoid
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playing children in any
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game I play just because there's
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a lot of things that you can't
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do with them that you can do with adults.
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And then the other thing is I have
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a lot of trouble separating my
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cynicism from what a kid thinks
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of everything. But actually it was really fun to
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play Rosa because
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it was really fun to think
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about what would she do as
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opposed to just playing a character
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who has a slightly different personality for me. It
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was a nice stretch.
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I find it therapeutic to do stuff
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like that. It's nice to be
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innocent. The time period certainly helped
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the innocence too. I didn't have to think about
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all these things that kids now have
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to deal with when you have all these sources
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of media and stuff, like sort of the childly
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wonder like crashing up against the reality.
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And I don't know if I would
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be able to do that because reality
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sucks.
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It does. And it bites. And
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it blows. I guess the third thing
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you kind of touched on too was do you think it
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added more difficulty or tension? I don't know about
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difficulty, maybe tension because
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that like how do we play this and not go
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completely overboard or terrible. But we're also
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very careful about picking a specific age
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too when even though as
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Lupine just mentioned, kids today are
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like sort of grown up a bit quicker than
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they were back then. But even back then, kids
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were allowed to go places
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that these kids today can't go
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or
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are not allowed to go by helicopter parents or whatever,
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different mores, different times. Out
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of the days of you go play outside,
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be at home before the street light comes on. And
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then just being turned loose into
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the world and tolling, you know, go entertain yourself.
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14 or 15 year olds in 1974 had
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a lot of autonomy. And so it
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was sort of like, you know, how do we portray
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kids who are just becoming investigators?
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Whether they want to or not. They're sort of old
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enough to figure out what's going on one
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foot in
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Adolescence one foot in dawning
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adulthood. So it was it was a fun tightrope
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I think and hopefully we pulled that off It'll
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be a little easier going forward. I think because
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now you guys have some baggage
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Rosa is a very different person this time
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Kyle's not but you know, well you were
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for a minute true very briefly I
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hope that answers your question profit. Well Lupine.
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Do you have a question for Matt?
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I want to know what was in that note
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the one at the end That Jeremy
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just handed Matt and Matt's
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hold demeanor changed when he read it I
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just watched your face like
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change the note that he
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handed me was Basically
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a short thing saying you're a mushroom person
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by the way And now that all the mushrooms are dying
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you realize what's going on So that's
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why it was that shift because I did not
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know up until that very second what was
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happening He did not tell me so that
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whole minute of me going that was that was me Processing
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and going well fuck cuz after
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I came back at the end of that fight I'm like, oh, you
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know, maybe it's something maybe I Interrupted
11:08
it in time and Kyle's gonna make it to the next season
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and
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then he handed me that and I was like no Never mind
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and it all came down to the rolls. I got
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well, we eaten hard this time someone
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clip that He just said he got well, we eat hard.
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Okay, so endless ocean has a
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question Do you people prefer
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playing characters that can't just look
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up stuff on their phones in game? Or is
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that something that pisses you off? Jeremy's
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always kind of blocked us no signal or you
11:33
know Whatever which makes sense because you don't want to
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be pulled out of the story out of the situation
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all the time But in a couple scenarios
11:40
where we were able to
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use our phones It did come in handy
11:44
and I don't think we overused them But I
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could see how players could constantly
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just use that to take care of
11:51
everything. You know what I mean?
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It's nice that we couldn't because
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that it sort of forces you to play
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person who's in the moment who's paying attention
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to what they're doing. I mean, it definitely
12:02
makes things more interesting
12:04
when you don't have that instantaneous access
12:07
to the sum of all human knowledge. You
12:09
have to get a little more creative with your problem solving
12:11
and it can really help to kind of push the storytelling
12:14
aspects when again, you don't have
12:16
the answer to life, the universe and everything at
12:18
your fingertips. I do prefer it when
12:20
characters do not have access to
12:23
look stuff up on their phone. The whole cell
12:25
phone thing does kind of miff me a bit
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because it is a crutch and it's something that
12:29
we tend to very quickly go
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to now. I think it just feels
12:34
inauthentic if they can't
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come by the information in a more role-playing
12:39
way. There's no role-playing when you're looking
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things up on a phone. So then it also
12:44
feels unrealistic for me to step
12:46
in and throw roadblocks in the way. So
12:48
the whole thing is just like a lose-lose proposition.
12:51
I enjoy it
12:52
more when they don't have access
12:54
to everything. It just gets boring.
12:57
You can't make a podcast out of that. I'm sorry. How
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do you lockpick this door? Let me look it up on Google. Matt, do
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you have a question for me?
13:04
Moving from, I guess what you could
13:06
call an established universe into
13:08
a blank canvas from
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where we were with the old trio into our
13:14
new area here. What was that like for you? Was
13:17
it really fun? Was it kind of scary?
13:19
Were you nervous about how we were going to react
13:21
to things, how the audience was going to receive the
13:24
new world? Because I know you put a lot of work
13:26
into everything that goes into this show
13:28
and it has to be, at least on some level, minorly
13:31
terrifying to put something like that out there
13:33
in front of everybody
13:34
and just kind of let that go out into the world.
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To me, it's more exciting than anything else. It
13:38
can be daunting, like trying, okay, so what's the angle
13:41
going to be? That sort of thing. It is a
13:43
risk to take all of that history
13:46
and what everybody knows and loves
13:48
or hates and just say, okay, 14 cases.
13:50
We're
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moving on to a brand new cycle. That
13:54
part was risky, but our fans know
13:57
us. Our style didn't change. You know,
13:59
it's sort of like we're.
13:59
all the same dumbasses. But also,
14:02
like, because there was such baggage
14:05
with all the other ones, the Royos
14:07
and Roy and his wife and kids
14:09
and, like, all this stuff. But also,
14:11
like, a lot of things to keep in mind. Okay,
14:13
I have to, like, make sure that this happens and
14:16
people are gonna ask whatever happened to this character, you
14:18
know, that sort of thing. But if we just, like,
14:20
start over, it kind of takes care
14:22
of a lot of that and allows us, we have a new
14:25
player here. To me, it just made the most sense
14:27
to just sort of begin again. And
14:30
I really enjoyed, you know, Last Crucis learning
14:32
about that California town. Try
14:34
our best to portray the time frame
14:37
and the people of that era. It
14:39
was fun. I liked it. I'm super
14:41
excited about
14:42
K-16. Oh, boy. Which means he's going
14:45
to murder everybody. He can't kill me.
14:47
I'm already dead. All right, I have a question for
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Lupine. What were your challenges
14:51
to figure out the rhythms
14:54
of our play style or to adapt
14:56
to our generally adolescent behavior?
14:59
Was there, I mean, you came in, you knew us
15:01
peripherally, and you knew what the
15:03
podcast was, and we had our, you
15:05
know, interview session and all that stuff. But then
15:07
to actually be here,
15:09
I kind of felt really comfortable
15:11
with you guys right off the bat. I don't know if
15:13
it was because I listened to so
15:15
much of the podcast before I joined,
15:18
and it might say something about my
15:21
sense of humor, maybe that we all got
15:23
sort of made the same sort
15:25
of jokes. That was part of that joy
15:27
for me was that I have had
15:29
to deal with groups where I haven't matched
15:32
as well playing with
15:34
strangers, you know, I guess that was the
15:36
biggest challenge for me deciding
15:39
whether what I am inclined to
15:41
do next is going to completely break
15:43
the other players or Jeremy, because
15:45
I've been in that situation to where I
15:48
do something and someone's like,
15:50
no, that's not okay. I'm like,
15:52
Oh, I'm sorry.
15:53
Gabe has already thoroughly broken
15:55
Jeremy. There's not much left really. Roy
15:58
taught me humility.
15:59
embarrassment. I shoot the phone
16:02
out of the bartender's hand. It's fine. That was actually
16:04
the moment that I was like, I can
16:06
play with these guys. Because that
16:09
is something that I would have done. You
16:11
guys feel like buddies
16:13
I'd play with. There wasn't much of a
16:16
learning curve.
16:17
Glad to hear that. All right, do you
16:19
have a question for me in the chat there, Matt?
16:21
Prophet of Well on YouTube says not
16:24
to do with the story, but given the choice,
16:26
would you prefer people watch on Twitch or
16:28
on YouTube? Or would you prefer less
16:30
of a live audience and more listens to the actual
16:32
podcast itself? So we did this
16:35
early on. We didn't used to live stream. And
16:37
I was pretty adamant that I did not
16:39
want us to because we're
16:42
much better now.
16:43
We're a little more laid-back. We're settled
16:45
in. We're older. We're a little bit more mellow.
16:48
But back then we would sometimes fly
16:50
off the handle and get pissed off at each other.
16:52
Brian and I are brothers. We have a history.
16:55
With that comes the ability to push each other's
16:57
buttons a little bit once we realize like this
16:59
is not cool, guys. We can't just like
17:02
fucking freak out on the stream.
17:04
I look forward to taking part in one of those.
17:08
I hope not. People want to see the stream.
17:11
So let's do it. But let's be
17:13
as professional as we possibly can be. And
17:15
I think we've gotten much
17:17
better at that. We've had little blooms here
17:20
and there, but they haven't been nearly as bad as
17:22
they were in the past. Dealing with people who
17:24
want to do what maybe you didn't plan
17:27
for or expect has taught me a lot. So
17:29
I've been trying to do that's why we
17:31
we tried to do more yes and I've emphasized
17:34
that at the beginning of each of the podcasts. Like we
17:36
just need to
17:37
work towards that. Like that's all pulling the same
17:39
direction. And I think it's worked more or less.
17:41
But in the good old days I would prefer
17:44
that people only listened to the
17:46
finished edited polished podcast
17:49
because all the words were removed
17:51
and it's much better a more
17:54
pleasant experience. The words come back though
17:56
if you don't keep up with them. Secondary question
17:58
from Twitch chat for every...
17:59
Everybody here favorite type of mushroom
18:02
either to eat or in general. Jeremy,
18:04
why don't you start? I'm not a mushroom guy, but
18:07
I've come to appreciate some of them. I
18:09
just don't like the spongy texture
18:12
of certain types of mushrooms. I do like
18:14
if they've been cooked in butter for
18:17
a long time, but in a dish, not by themselves.
18:19
I love a portobello burger
18:22
slapped with onions, tomatoes,
18:25
and lettuce. And, hmm, so good. Those
18:28
aren't mushy because they're so thick. They're
18:29
actually more bready. I'm a
18:32
fan of both shiitakes and oyster
18:34
mushrooms. They work really well together
18:36
in pairs, especially in, again,
18:39
I use them a lot in like ramen, especially
18:41
if you can get like dehydrated mushrooms. It's
18:43
a really great way to make like a quick and flavored turn
18:45
water into, you know, a broth that
18:48
is a little more exciting than water.
18:50
I don't like mushrooms.
18:52
I like poking them like when they're alive
18:55
because I'm a science nerd and I like, oh,
18:57
cool. Look at the look at the way that the water
19:00
moves and the nutrients move through the mushroom
19:02
and I'll lay on my belly in the
19:05
forest floor and look at them because
19:07
they're really fascinating to, you know, look
19:09
at the
19:10
spores and gills and all
19:12
the stuff.
19:12
I especially like all the colors. In
19:15
terms of eating, if you, if you
19:17
forced me at gunpoint, I probably would. Yeah, I
19:19
don't mind the flavor so much. Actually, I
19:21
think that whole nutrient thing,
19:24
the nutrients from the dead things is very
19:26
interesting to the flavor, like it imparts
19:29
different cool flavors of different things. But
19:31
also I have this thought like,
19:33
oh, I'm eating dead things.
19:34
Okay. So we have a question here
19:37
from Sam Bifford. What
19:39
epitaph will be written
19:41
on Ben's headstone?
19:44
I wondered if Bifford meant Kyle's.
19:47
Unless you haven't told me yet. But we're just going
19:49
to take it as is. What will be written on
19:51
your tombstone? Probably got
19:54
a dollar. Brian, do you have a question
19:56
for me?
19:57
What was the, if any? Most
20:00
important message that you wanted
20:02
to get across to your players, but you couldn't.
20:05
Well, so there were two sort of hurdles
20:07
that popped up that I was like, oh,
20:09
shit, how do I get through this? The one thing
20:11
was I thought Ben would be
20:13
the one to go to deliver the
20:15
thing to the old guy's house.
20:18
And so when it popped up, you were like,
20:20
not going to do that. I was like, oh,
20:23
shit. Yeah, I had to plow that night. That's
20:25
right. You were gone. The player was missing
20:27
in this instance. So I had to
20:29
hijack Kyle as the
20:32
surrogate for that. And then Kyle's
20:34
response was to run. There
20:36
goes that. That guy
20:38
who is going to be like the crux of figuring out
20:41
the fungal situation. But we
20:43
managed later on to figure out a
20:45
way to get you guys steered towards that. The
20:47
other thing, of course, obviously we already talked about it
20:49
was the the bully. And actually,
20:52
both times that you guys encountered the bully was
20:54
sort of like, ooh, what are they going to do? I
20:56
thought it was good that we talked him into being
20:58
our friends, kind of. What happened
20:59
to Randy was completely unplanned,
21:02
completely unexpected. You know, it came down to
21:04
dice rolls and intent. So that's why
21:06
I can't write everything in advance
21:09
because it changes so frequently.
21:11
So there's a lot of role playing going on
21:13
when we play on both sides. Contrary
21:16
to popular opinion, it's none of a descriptive.
21:18
I'm sorry, I lost what page we were
21:20
on, guys. Where are we again? Where's my cue?
21:23
Lou Pine, it's on page 12. OK, from
21:25
the top. Hi, welcome to the Lovecraft Tapes
21:27
podcast where we're doing Q&A. Matt,
21:31
do you have a question for Lupine?
21:33
Given what we've seen with
21:35
Rosa and clearly how much she cares for
21:38
the the animals on her farm, do
21:40
you think that seeing what happened with
21:42
the people and the goats and the mushrooms and everything,
21:45
you know, kind of melting away, do you
21:47
think that's going to affect how
21:49
she interacts with the the farm? Is like,
21:51
has it changed her as a person,
21:54
like, in a way that she's, you know, maybe
21:56
going to steer a little bit away from certain
21:59
things that she enjoyed?
21:59
first season. She's a very different person
22:02
than at the beginning of this. I was
22:05
sort of thinking about it, about how I want
22:08
to play her differently, like what she
22:10
came
22:11
out of those experiences learning.
22:15
She's gonna have trouble trusting
22:17
people and maybe not even just
22:19
trusting like what people say but like
22:22
who people are. In my head I'm sort
22:24
of like calling her the new Rosa. You know, what
22:26
would the new Rosa do when she like
22:28
saw the goats deflating? I'm excited to
22:31
explore that.
22:31
All right, Phoenix, our old
22:34
friend Phoenix, they ask
22:37
after watching the movie Glorious,
22:40
which stars the incomparable J.K.
22:43
Simmons as the voice of an eldritch
22:45
horror, I was wondering who
22:48
each of you would choose to be the voice
22:50
of any of your favorite Lovecraftian
22:53
elder gods. I have a funny
22:55
one and a serious one, Samuel L. Jackson
22:58
and Liam Neeson of course. Because of his
23:00
huge cock? Yeah,
23:02
he's got a huge chicken farm. My
23:04
first go-to was Morgan Freeman. My
23:06
favorite elder god is Dagon. I would
23:08
definitely make Morgan Freeman.
23:11
He has different ways of voice-overing
23:13
and like one of his ways is like done
23:16
with it all. I feel like that would be
23:18
really good Dagon is just like
23:20
and then they did something
23:22
stupid. And
23:25
I just think it'd be fun to hear Chris and
23:27
Cheddarwith as Cthulhu. A
23:30
pair that I'd love to see together, reenacting
23:33
some of their characters, are the
23:35
duo of Rob Paulson and Maurice
23:38
LaMarche, whom if you're a 90s kid you
23:40
will know as Pinky and the Brain. I just
23:42
love the idea of like the brain is
23:44
like this big menacing old one and then
23:46
you just have Pinky hanging out. Just you
23:48
know constantly provokes him and asks some stupid
23:50
questions and makes him do dumb things. I'd
23:52
watch that. And I would probably do
23:55
Javier Bardem as the
23:57
voice of Dagon and then
23:59
And then I thought, well, Cthulhu,
24:02
I would want Guillermo del Toro
24:04
to be Cthulhu. He has a very distinctive
24:06
voice and he has presence.
24:09
And I think he could probably carry that off. So I hope
24:11
that answers your question, Phoenix. That
24:13
was a pretty good one. That was well thought out. I
24:16
like it. Lupine, do you have a question for
24:18
Brian?
24:18
How did you choose to play Ben
24:20
the way you did? Like how did you
24:23
choose to have him interact
24:25
with the adults and
24:28
then the other kids that the way that
24:30
you did? I thought it was very interesting.
24:32
I pulled from life. I was
24:34
a latchkey kid, if nobody knows what
24:36
that is. You're an only child
24:38
and your family works late. So you
24:41
get home from school and you have a key and
24:43
you get in the house, you do your chores,
24:45
you prepare a snack. Sometimes
24:48
you get dinner ready
24:49
for when your family gets home. So I kind of
24:51
pulled a little bit from that. Had to go to
24:53
school in the morning by myself. They were already off to
24:55
work. Almost missed the bus a couple times watching
24:58
Thundercats. And Independence because
25:00
knowing that he was by himself, his
25:02
mom was working. So it was a lot of the
25:05
similar feel for me.
25:07
It felt very much like Rosa
25:09
and Kyle were kind of kids. And
25:12
then Ben was sort of like...
25:13
Little grown up. Yeah. How
25:16
do you think you're in play, Ben, differently?
25:18
Did he feel betrayed by the fact
25:21
that the adults were there?
25:22
He probably felt like he's never
25:24
really been able to fully count
25:27
on an adult, even his mom, at
25:29
times. He's definitely gonna question things
25:32
more when adults say them, not take
25:34
them at face value in what he's told to
25:36
do. And he's gonna invent a death ray. All
25:39
right, Crocy has a question.
25:41
Is that mutant baby goat mushroom
25:44
hybrid still hanging around Rosa's farm?
25:46
I think probably not because
25:48
I think we've established that the destruction
25:51
of the... With the mycontazole and
25:53
the destruction of the root rock that
25:55
everything literally sort of dissolved,
25:58
as we saw with Kyle.
25:59
loved a pet mutant
26:01
goat, baby Acro. It was like a hive
26:04
mind thing? That's when I kind of figured it out
26:06
when you had the mushrooms coming up into
26:08
a shape and then changing into a different shape.
26:11
And then it's like you knew it was all
26:13
being controlled by the root rock. And
26:15
it was like, once that's gone, the
26:17
controlled tentacles are coming.
26:20
The mushrooms sort of reminded me
26:22
of like a slime mold. But unlike a slime
26:24
mold, it had a centralized place where
26:27
it had the intelligence.
26:28
I have a question for Matt.
26:30
Saying goodbye to a fresh investigator
26:33
on the first case seems kind
26:35
of traumatic. But because Call
26:37
of Cthulhu is a very dangerous game, it's
26:40
not unusual to see characters meet grisly
26:42
demises on the reg. How do you approach
26:44
role-playing
26:46
in the Lovecraftian universe differently
26:48
than in another system, knowing
26:50
that your time is short to
26:52
make a memorable impression on our
26:55
audience? In a world where
26:57
it doesn't take much to take
26:59
out a character, like we're all
27:02
normal humans, it's a really
27:04
delicate balancing act because on one hand
27:06
you want to develop the personality
27:09
and kind of show off who they are and make
27:11
them their own unique thing. But you
27:13
can't do it at such a hyper-accelerated
27:17
rate that it comes off as you playing a character
27:20
for just straight comedy.
27:23
I could have gone full 12 out of 10 on Kyle and
27:26
made him full really dumb,
27:29
unaware athlete and it would have been really
27:31
funny, but it's a lot more fun playing
27:33
characters that have a
27:34
deeper layer of complexity to them.
27:37
And to be able to still have those fun moments
27:39
popping up after the fight and saying, yeah, no, just
27:41
give the dude a dollar. But on the other hand, when
27:44
you play it in
27:46
that kind of balanced mode, you get the
27:48
other moments like him waking up at home
27:51
and getting to see that little slice
27:53
of his life where he's by himself and he's
27:55
wearing hand-me-down clothes and putting
27:58
orange juice in his cereal because his dad did it.
27:59
didn't buy milk before he left him
28:02
alone. It's tough to find that balancing
28:04
point, but at the same time, that's the
28:06
most fun part, to find that midpoint
28:08
between playing a character that's memorable
28:11
and not turning them into a clown. And
28:13
for the record, I think you did a wonderful job. I
28:15
do too. Aw. At making him
28:18
a clown. It was a fun character to play, because when I went
28:20
from, you know, playing, you know, Rocky
28:22
and all these older characters that
28:24
had all this, you know, forethought knowledge and
28:26
went to, you know, a young kid who
28:29
didn't have that,
28:29
you know, prefrontal cortex
28:32
development and had a lack of filtering.
28:34
So he was just kind of, you know, what's
28:36
the first thing that comes into my head? Atulia
28:38
wants to know,
28:39
could you break down what happened to
28:42
Kyle? I'm not sure if I missed something
28:44
or if it all just happened off screen. And
28:46
that is the key. It did all happen
28:48
off screen. Kyle was turned
28:51
into a mushroom person. He
28:54
stumbled across one of the quote unquote
28:56
seed pods or whatever his doppelganger
28:59
in process in the clubhouse. It
29:01
had attached to him and was
29:04
essentially leeching him of all his stuff.
29:06
And he failed a role that turned out
29:09
to be deadly.
29:09
And then, of course, his dad shows
29:12
up
29:12
just when he is wavering
29:15
between consciousness. The thing
29:17
that infected him
29:19
actually managed to begin
29:22
his conversion and then
29:25
run away. That's what the mountain lion was
29:27
or cougar. Oh,
29:29
okay. So when the dad got into the clubhouse,
29:32
the thing burst from the door
29:34
and ran off into the underbrush.
29:36
It's not like invasion of the body snatchers where
29:39
the seed pods simply just become you. It's
29:41
more of an infection kind of
29:42
thing because Kyle had these wounds
29:45
on him. The thing also copied
29:47
those wounds. Oh my God, that all
29:49
makes sense. Ryan, do you have a question
29:51
for Matt? When planning your next character,
29:54
what will be their most
29:56
important trait? And second,
29:59
how many?
29:59
the asses will they smack? Well, to answer
30:02
your question in reverse order, all
30:04
of them, because, you know, clearly Ben isn't
30:07
going to take up the torch and start slapping asses.
30:10
Yeah, someone has to. As far as
30:12
important traits goes, I don't know
30:14
yet. I mean, once I spend
30:16
a little more time looking
30:18
at where I want to take the new character, then
30:21
at some point I'll settle in on kind
30:23
of direction and personality.
30:26
And from there, I usually try and
30:28
fill out skills
30:29
in a way that makes sense. Could I, you
30:32
know, always put 80 or could I always
30:34
put the most points possible into spot hidden?
30:37
Yeah. Does it make sense for the person I'm playing?
30:39
Not always. And as advantageous as it would,
30:41
you know, always have a lot of points into,
30:44
you know, spot hidden and listen. It's
30:46
a lot more fun to distribute
30:48
those points into other lesser
30:51
used skills. Because every now and then you
30:53
get one of those moments where you're like, wait, I can
30:55
roll for that. And it just opens up a lot more
30:57
opportunities for unique scenarios and
30:59
unique
30:59
things to happen that might not have happened
31:02
otherwise. Had you just, you know, spent
31:04
points in the most min maxi way possible.
31:06
Keep smacking asses, man. Oh, we have a question
31:09
here from I swing a bit more. Hey,
31:11
everyone. Got one for all players and
31:13
Jeremy. These new investigators are a breath of fresh
31:15
air. And although no investigator is guaranteed to
31:17
last, some of the tests of time and
31:19
gone for several chapters. What do you hope to see if
31:22
your investigator achieve? And what
31:24
are you excited to see this group get up to in
31:26
the future as they grow together or maybe even
31:28
apart?
31:29
Well, my goal is to become part of
31:31
a hive mind. I mean, it didn't turn out too
31:33
well for Kyle, but if you want to give it a go, go right
31:35
ahead. Maybe maybe Rosa and
31:37
Kyle will be playing in the
31:40
mushrooms for all looking in the mushrooms.
31:42
I want to learn more magic. I
31:44
want to make it more than one case without dying.
31:46
Let's start there and we'll build out.
31:48
I have a really stupid goal called I
31:50
want Rosa to become Buffy and just be totally
31:53
jaded and totally like I hate
31:55
everyone. And I'm
31:58
going to kick some ass. Kyle's going to slap.
31:59
him, I'm gonna kick him. Matt, do you have a question
32:02
for Brian? Considering what Ben
32:04
has been through this season, especially
32:06
in terms of dealing with strangers
32:08
and new people, how do you think he's gonna react
32:11
when a new person just
32:13
kind of shows up and immediately tries
32:15
to insert themselves into the group, maybe
32:17
in a way that might be seen by the
32:19
other two as trying to take over for Kyle?
32:22
Well, I probably stab them with a pitchfork,
32:25
just to make sure they're not a mushroom.
32:26
I need to see you bleed! Probably
32:29
just test you a bit more than I normally
32:31
would. Suss you out, make sure you're
32:33
a genuine
32:34
person who's there to be yourself. No
32:37
ulterior motives. Uh, Lupine, do you
32:39
have a question for me? What's the scenario
32:41
we're playing and what's the solution?
32:42
Yeah, right. How you win?
32:45
Did you write differently based
32:47
on the fact that I pushed
32:49
that role in Fumbles, the one of
32:51
the hot springs?
32:52
That's when you got infected. I kind of
32:55
assumed that somebody would get infected,
32:57
right? Because the dangers were increasing
32:59
all the time. I did not think it was going to be
33:01
you. You didn't
33:02
take into account my chaos. I
33:04
was 100% sure you were going to kill me. You
33:07
were on track to become
33:10
a fungal thing. If things
33:12
hadn't really panned out and you hadn't
33:14
like picked up the signals and done something
33:16
stupid, like run away, then you would have
33:18
been in really bad situations.
33:21
Thankfully, you just killed Kyle. So I didn't need to
33:23
rewrite anything,
33:25
it was just like, oh shit, it's Rosa. I played
33:27
right into your hands. Fortunately
33:29
for you, those MVCs played right into Kyle's ass
33:32
slapping hands. So, you know. Hope that answers
33:34
your question. And I got the last question
33:36
here for Brian. Ben went through a lot
33:38
this scenario, emotionally and physically,
33:41
as he enters high school
33:42
as a freshman. How do you think this
33:44
experience will color his interactions
33:47
with other students and potential new friends?
33:49
I think that's going to probably be the biggest change.
33:52
He always would pull back and always
33:54
look for the route easiest
33:57
way out of a room, out of a situation.
33:59
I think.
33:59
It's not necessarily confidence.
34:02
It's more so you can't do anything
34:05
worse to me than what I've gone through this past
34:07
summer It's not gonna bother me whatever you
34:09
do to me. So if there's a bully situation
34:11
or anything like that It's gonna pale
34:14
in comparison to losing my friend Well
34:16
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