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The Magnus
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Break-A-Hole. Episode
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10. Saturday
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Night. Episode
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Night. Sunday
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Night. Now,
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I'm sure I don't need to tell
3:53
anyone what that little blast of 90s nostalgia
3:55
was. Mr Bonzo's
3:57
on his way, which top Charts are
3:59
over a little bit. seven weeks,
4:01
well, twelve weeks smashing the record.
4:04
For Tv time, Music, and launching
4:06
a merchandise empire. Well today I'm
4:08
here with the creator. Of Mr.
4:10
Bonzo and former host. As such they
4:12
on six Night or Dickinson there's an
4:15
absolute says is a be Here divulging.
4:18
Nasty. Don't say they again. He has
4:20
been a while as and it kept
4:22
busy. So twenty five years since Mr.
4:24
Bones his debut. Why didn't you tell
4:26
us a little bit about how it
4:28
all started? Amin started as a joke.
4:31
Gen Six approached me. ninety school should
4:33
be the hands and hop out there
4:35
hasn't been authorized He said. It
4:37
was a risk in and but Medical Channel
4:39
Six or seven, eight, fifty, three year and
4:42
I wasn't exactly a household name. Coming
4:44
up as part of the eighties examined
4:46
program and abroad as housing top of
4:48
in my post. Step. Nigel
4:50
Dickinson present to be some six
4:53
or nice obsessed with his i
4:55
started pony really took off. On
4:57
a at the End of The Daves still
5:00
the same sort of variety show the Bbc
5:02
and on achieving that running on set to
5:04
be Prime States music interviews, some of My
5:06
Kitchen features. More. Marked ourselves as
5:08
use of we didn't take our so
5:10
was nearly series is that. The
5:13
whole can say for set the set was
5:15
built like and I know most comedy dungeon
5:17
and I've been imprisoned by Mr Six Mr
5:19
Six out he was at six and will
5:21
hit of Channel Six on i'll Have to
5:23
Do Good so so I'd be really. Cool
5:27
chef. we had a lot of fun with
5:29
it. At the top of a shop or
5:31
get a phone call from Mister Six. it
5:33
was always very angry that he'd say got
5:35
more complete from some busybody. Ruth Eve a
5:38
name like. Some
5:40
friends and then I be told I had to
5:42
do the. Whole show without the not
5:44
when using the words of next
5:46
door standing on mom says something
5:48
and people loved it they really
5:50
loved it and waited list the
5:53
bonzo come into it. Gets
5:55
Mr. Bones and goes. well
5:57
what about the thinks was pranks Oh,
6:01
sexual view, you've got buried. Well, we'd invite
6:03
some serious public figure and make them look
6:05
a bit silly, like, uh, get
6:07
a famous footballer to do a bunch of kick-ups,
6:09
but we'd wait at the ball. And at the
6:11
end, I'd come out and say, you've got buried,
6:14
and I'd give them this big golden raspberry trophy.
6:16
It was a warning, but no guests were hurt.
6:19
So, one day, my producer, Rich,
6:21
had this fantastic idea. We'd
6:23
do the whole shtick of inviting a
6:25
famous person on, someone really serious, and
6:27
we'd tell them we're going to have
6:30
them do a segment with a popular
6:32
children's entertainer. Now, obviously,
6:34
these folks won't have any idea about what
6:36
kids are actually watching, so we could come
6:38
up with the most horrendous thing, claim kids
6:41
loved it, and see how long it took
6:43
for the guests to realize they were the
6:45
joke, that they'd been buried. So,
6:48
I came up with this awful
6:50
clown character, this big, bold, worse,
6:52
blotty suit running around, screaming his
6:54
own name, and generally being a
6:56
nightmare. Who came up with the
6:58
name Mr. Bonzo? You know,
7:00
I honestly don't remember. I know it wasn't
7:02
me or Rich, but at some point, someone
7:04
said it, and the name just stuck. I
7:07
don't really know what else to say about it. His
7:10
name is Mr. Bonzo. I
7:13
remember the first show we used him. We'd
7:15
invited Gotar Rimbaud, the chef. He was
7:17
very big at the time, lots of
7:19
TV appearances, a cooking column in the
7:21
Times, but I think he was
7:23
looking to soften his public image after the mirror
7:25
ran a story on him. I don't
7:27
quite remember. Britain's snootiest chef. Oh, that
7:29
is it, yeah. So, after that,
7:32
he agreed to do a segment on our show,
7:34
Teaching Children How to Cook. He's
7:36
obviously never seen the show and
7:38
was completely oblivious to kids' culture.
7:40
He was absolutely perfect. When
7:43
Mr. Bonzo emerged out of the
7:45
pantry, the effect was incredible. Rimbaud's
7:48
face went white, and he looked like he
7:50
was about to scream. I'll be
7:52
honest, I'd seen the suit already, but I
7:54
hadn't seen it moving, and it
7:57
was even freaking me out. to
8:00
keep it together. As far as
8:02
he knew all the kids did
8:04
love Mr. Bonzo. But when that
8:06
big rubbery clown started knocking over
8:08
pans and smashing eggs all over
8:10
the studio kitten, the snooty
8:12
chef actually tried to hide behind the
8:14
shelving unit. And finally when Mr. Bonzo
8:17
went in for a couple, Rimbaud genuinely
8:19
attacked him with a front. He actually
8:21
broke the arm of the guy wearing
8:23
it, which I took as my cue
8:26
to enter with the golden berry. And
8:28
this was on live TV don't forget. Sounds
8:31
like a disaster. I thought so
8:33
too. But according to our audience it was
8:35
the best thing we'd ever done. Over
8:38
the next week we got literally hundreds
8:40
of letters demanding more Mr. Bonzo. Even
8:42
with a broken arm? Well
8:45
there was a different man in the suit of course. There
8:47
were a few of them over the years. It
8:49
was very physically demanding and that wasn't the only
8:52
injury we had with it. It
8:54
actually became a sort of ritual. The newest
8:56
member of the production crew wore Mr. Bonzo
8:58
until someone else joined. Or until they
9:01
got hit by a pan. Yes
9:04
of course. The joke couldn't last. The
9:06
problem with a surprise prank is that
9:08
doing it on Saturday night primetime means
9:11
pretty soon. Everyone knows about it and
9:13
the guest knew it was coming. I
9:16
properly requested it. So the
9:18
prank part of it sort of died and he
9:20
just became an SOS mascot. One
9:22
of the many tormentors in the dungeon. By
9:25
the end we'd even retired Mr. Six and
9:27
it was all Bonzo. Clearly it
9:29
was the right decision. The kids certainly
9:31
liked him. It turned out
9:33
they really did think he was hilarious. What
9:36
the ones who didn't want themselves anyway.
9:39
There was a pretty stark dividing line
9:41
between the two. Soon it
9:44
was Bonzo mania. Merch sales were
9:46
going through the roof. Undeserving
9:48
number one hit single actually did
9:50
become a number one hit single.
9:52
And we even started construction on
9:54
a small Bonzo land theme park
9:56
at one point. It
9:58
was a good time. And
10:00
then? And
10:03
then we all know what happened. People...
10:07
stop liking Mr Bonzo. If
10:10
you don't feel comfortable discussing Terrence
10:12
Menke we can move on to... No, no, that's
10:14
fine. You know he was
10:16
only the last one, right? The one where
10:18
he was caught? The police said
10:21
there were 11 bodies in total and his
10:23
wardrobe was full of all sorts of homemade
10:25
costumes. Who knows what he wore for the
10:27
rest, but no. Of course
10:29
he was not dressed as Mr Bonzo,
10:31
that's all people remember, the... The,
10:35
uh, Bonzo Butcher. The
10:37
Bonzo Butcher. Ridiculous, tabloid garbage.
10:40
It didn't even look like him. He
10:42
got the colours backwards. But
10:45
they still splashed the image all
10:47
over the front page, complete overreaction.
10:49
An overreaction? No. I
10:52
mean, it was inappropriate to
10:54
show the public, I mean. It
10:56
certainly had a profound effect on the Mr Bonzo
10:58
brand. Bonzo land halting construction
11:01
shall be afterwards and the suits
11:03
decided it was best to temporarily
11:05
halt production on SOS. And
11:07
how about you personally? Well,
11:09
of course I got death threats. We had
11:12
nothing to do with it, obviously. But
11:14
people can be very stupid about this sort
11:16
of thing anyway. That
11:18
was that. In the minds of the
11:20
public, Mr Bonzo had been completely changed.
11:24
I'm given to understand he's still got
11:26
some fans in the edgier parts of
11:28
the internet. There's a meme. Yes.
11:32
I was going to ask, Mr Bonzo
11:34
merchandise is still on sale via your
11:36
own website. Do you feel
11:38
it all uneasy about that? About what?
11:41
The fact that a few sales might be from people
11:43
trying to be edgy? A man's
11:45
got to make a living, Geraldine, and it's not
11:47
like I can tell if someone's buying a t-shirt
11:49
ironically. Besides, people
11:51
think of Nigel Dickinson and Mr
11:54
Bonzo as never far behind. So
11:57
it's not like it's changing my reputation. In
12:00
a lot of ways I'm more his prisoner now
12:02
than I ever was on my show. And
12:06
how do you respond to the more recent rumours? Excuse
12:09
me? The witness statements from three murders over the last five
12:11
years. Ah, I told the producer this wasn't going to be
12:13
this fast. There's another person in a Mr Bondo costume that's...
12:16
This interview is over. Don't contact us
12:18
again. Ah... It
12:22
was a joke, alright? Mr Bondo
12:24
was meant to be funny. Make
12:26
me laugh, is that so wrong? Why
12:29
must a craft deal in all this? Let
12:32
me go, why? Hello?
13:02
Colin? Sorry,
13:05
don't let me interrupt. It's fine,
13:07
just stuck the kettle on. You
13:10
want a cup? No, thanks, I'm coming
13:12
back on caffeine. Celia.
13:15
Celia, right, sorry.
13:18
No problem, I'm still new. Where
13:21
is everyone? Assignment,
13:23
whatever that means, and Alice
13:25
and Sam are... following
13:28
up something from a case. Right,
13:30
shame. One of the
13:32
elves has thoughts on something. You
13:35
know anything about computers? Not
13:38
really. When do
13:40
you want leave? For my brain, yeah.
13:43
Didn't work. Doctor
13:46
three therapists. None of them even knew what a logic
13:48
gate is. What the hell use is that going to
13:50
be? No. I was just sat
13:52
there twiddling my thumbs. Best thing
13:54
for me is figuring this out. Right.
13:59
So the others are all... gone out right
14:02
yeah great I'll
14:04
make things easier maybe
14:08
don't tell them I've been on their terminals the
14:11
one we get the wrong idea cool
14:24
well I think that was the kettle so
14:26
I'll probably just leave you to it yeah
14:30
oh and uh Julia hmm
14:33
if Lena asks I wasn't
14:35
here careful
15:01
yeah well that'd
15:03
be easier if I wasn't digging through
15:05
a crumbling rotten ruin in the
15:07
rain and it'd be even easier if
15:10
you stopped mourning and got on with actually
15:12
looking around you touche
15:15
although I'll point out I still don't have
15:17
any idea what we're even looking for is
15:21
it bad vibes because
15:23
I think
15:25
I've found them oh
15:29
no false alarm just a dead rat
15:32
lovely I'll know it when I see it will
15:35
you because that sounds very suspiciously
15:37
like the kind of line someone
15:40
says when they don't know what
15:42
they're looking for I honestly don't
15:44
know what you expect it's
15:46
a real room there's wood rooms
15:50
rubble it's not exactly
15:53
a treasure trolls if you're that bothered you
15:55
can head home don't let
15:57
me keep you there is honestly
15:59
no I'd rather be than here
16:01
with you and to
16:03
be clear I mean that in a profoundly
16:06
depressing way Like exactly night
16:08
and I'm choosing to hang out in a hole
16:10
with you a wet hole
16:13
and not the good kind either Well,
16:16
thanks then I guess well,
16:18
you're welcome then I guess hang
16:21
on. What was that? What
16:23
turn back? Wait,
16:31
are you serious? Because
16:33
isn't it tight at all? It'll
16:35
be empty and even if it
16:38
isn't it's rusted short which means
16:41
I shouldn't be able to break the lock And
16:44
find a peer-reviewed paper on all the
16:46
tetanus you're going to get you're
16:49
gonna cut yourself for mulch So
16:58
any life-changing revelations or Moach
17:03
that's right You're
17:08
all right, I'm fine. Oh Look
17:14
Sam you asked me to come and I
17:16
came I'm sorry that this
17:18
isn't the closure or whatever it was you were
17:20
searching for but I think you're wasting
17:22
your time So just look
17:24
at this place hasn't already collapsed on us.
17:26
I don't feel lucky that makes
17:29
two of us Look
17:31
I get it. Okay It
17:34
has some weird bits all grant you that
17:36
carved floor in the big atrium. I don't
17:38
know what's going on with that Whatever
17:42
ghosts you're hoping to bust I Don't
17:45
think they're here Sam
17:50
fine fine Seriously
17:55
I literally just
17:57
talked you into leaving please don't
18:00
don't now tell me you've actually found something
18:02
that... It's
18:05
a key. Oh yeah? And
18:08
you know what that means? Someone's gym
18:10
bag is getting really grim trapped in
18:12
a locker somewhere. Dallas!
18:17
Fine. Ten more
18:20
minutes. And
18:22
I'm keeping the umbrella. Alright.
18:35
I'm coming. What?
18:42
Nigel Dickinson.
18:47
Do you know what time it is?
18:49
I'm here on behalf of the
18:52
Office of Incident Assessment and Security. Oh?
18:56
I have a message for you. I was
18:58
told to deliberate persons. Yes.
19:02
What? My
19:04
instructions were very clear. Go
19:06
to the home of Nigel Dickinson and have him in his
19:08
family. It's not for me. Come
19:12
in. I'll wipe your feet. I'm
19:26
sorry about this. Oh
19:34
my God! It's trying not
19:37
to see. It even doesn't like the
19:39
way people say it. Mr
19:45
Bondo, me. I didn't
19:47
actually get your name. Probably
19:50
for the best. I
19:53
think it's done there. Looks
19:56
like they've got another one for you. I
20:30
don't know. Tell
20:33
the people who sent you, you're
20:36
welcome. Again. Okay.
20:39
Now, get out of his house.
20:41
You literally just promised I believed you couldn't open
20:46
it. That's not the
20:48
same thing as being
20:51
locked. Very good, again,
20:53
isn't it? It gives babies some sammere Ah,
21:20
fucking. That
21:28
really hurt, didn't it? Maybe.
21:32
Come here. So
21:34
much for your key. We're
21:39
here, aren't we? And where
21:41
is here, exactly? Someone's
21:44
office, I guess. Looks
21:46
like it held up better than the rest. Who
21:51
do you reckon Archie was? I
21:54
found one of those old timey name
21:56
block things. Archipelago? I'm
21:58
sorry, what? You're
22:01
just going to skip straight to archipelago.
22:04
No, I don't know. Architect. Archive.
22:08
I mean, there are books, I suppose. There
22:12
are books. Anyway. Nice
22:15
chair. I could look real ominous, swiveling
22:17
in that thing. I wouldn't
22:19
risk it. Nothing less you want woodworms up your butt. Ew.
22:22
That explains the pattern on the floor. Oh
22:25
yeah. What is that? Worm
22:27
tracks. Or, you know, symbols
22:30
of ancient otherworldly power. One
22:33
or the other. Look, you can be creeped out
22:35
or sarcastic, but not both. Watch
22:37
me. Careful.
22:43
Oh, thank goodness you said that. Otherwise I would
22:45
have jumped up and down on the danger. I'd
22:57
probably be, what was that? Because
22:59
it sounded a lot like, I'm sorry, Alice, you
23:01
were right. We should head back now before I
23:03
get myself killed. Falling into a
23:06
soggy pit. Gosh, you're sexy here. There'd
23:08
be twenty-three trouble. We can't.
23:11
This is the first clue we found. Clue! What
23:14
clue? It's a
23:16
hole, Sam. It's a
23:18
darkened monkey hole in a darkened
23:20
monkey office in a darkened monkey
23:22
building riddled with folks and God
23:24
knows what else. I'm
23:26
sorry, but enough. This
23:29
isn't some grand clue to
23:32
your childhood. It's a hole.
23:36
Time to go, Sam. I
23:45
am sorry. I know
23:47
you've got your hopes up. No,
23:50
you're right. I
23:53
don't know what I'm looking for. I
23:57
have memories of weird stuff I saw here
23:59
with no connection. I
24:02
want to know what was happening. Why
24:05
they chose us. Why they didn't choose me. Maybe find
24:10
a bit where everything started to go
24:12
wrong. But today. And now
24:15
I'm the only one left
24:19
to care. I
24:22
care. Not a
24:25
lot mind. Don't flatter yourself. But the truth is, close to
24:28
the end of the world. fr Just
24:31
as for movies, mate. All we
24:33
get is monkey holes. You
24:38
know there's a cream for that. There's
24:41
my baby shrimp. Come
24:45
on, let's get out of here before we fall into what
24:47
I'm starting to think might be a suspect.
24:50
Oh, I thought that was you. I figured you'd mess
24:53
yourself when you fell. Charming.
24:55
You're supposed to be a little bit
24:58
of a velvet. Now, as fun as it
25:00
is being at the moment away
25:03
from getting our own juicy cake, you
25:06
can probably do a bit of
25:09
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