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and more on today's

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program. Welcome ladies

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and gentlemen. It is, as you

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know, from Friday. It is casual Friday.

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Emma's here. Scatter. I

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mean, this is the softest of collars. Yes.

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It's literally soft. This is my

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softest sweater.

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Arguably a a turtle not.

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Turtle not. We need

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a turtle like that. No. This is not. And what

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this is a turtle. That's

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a full turtle.

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Foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul foul. You want the foul

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foul foul I did. Oh, man. I mean, I want

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Mitch McConnell -- Good. -- style. Listen.

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I know a lot of folks are A

6:18

lot of folks are, you know, tuning in because

6:20

they wanna hear my take on what is going

6:22

on with Stephen Crowder and the

6:24

daily wire and all this. And

6:28

you will get it, but it's gonna be a little

6:30

bit later in the program.

6:31

Obviously, that's why we do things here. The

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fun half is for the fun. And

6:35

Sam

6:35

casualty tweeting out last night that we'll have a

6:37

twelve hour show.

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Yes. Yeah. I mean, I saw that you

6:40

didn't tag us, but you saw You know that

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Twitter is still public. Right? Like Mine

6:46

barely is. Yeah. Mine barely is. I

6:48

can barely I can't even log on to

6:50

it. It it the the thing

6:52

is broken. Some

6:54

Twitter is falling apart. It it it

6:56

is a mess. A mess. A mess. It's

6:58

totally falling apart. I guess it turns out

7:00

that, like, Yeah. You can you

7:03

know, let's put it

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this way. You can take a one

7:07

of those aircraft carriers And

7:10

if you take all of the and it's

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in the middle of the ocean, you take all the

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crew off it, it's still gonna

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go. Right. But at one

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point, because there's

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no crew, it's gonna run into something

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he crashed. Much like a self driving Tesla.

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Yeah. Exactly. Fair enough.

7:27

Like, exactly.

7:29

Exactly. I mean, that is the that

7:31

is perfect metaphor. And

7:34

but we will we'll get to the crowder stuff.

7:36

But I hope people understand. I I was

7:38

just mocking Stephen crowder's, you

7:40

know, announcement from a couple days ago. There were,

7:42

like, people, like, Do you have real stuff to

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dish? And and I don't I have some

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theories. Yeah. And I'm working

7:48

on the contract to gonna offer Croda. And

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also We're we're gonna

7:53

try and listen. I hate to see people

7:55

fight online. Yeah.

7:55

No. We're gonna try and bring them together. Sounds

7:58

gonna be the mediator. Exactly. Yeah.

8:01

Yeah. Yeah. I learned a lot actually

8:04

from, you know, going through

8:06

a divorce and and stuff like that. I've

8:08

learned how to, like, bring party

8:09

together. Mhmm. We had a mediator and I mean,

8:11

who better? Honestly. Yeah.

8:13

You need a fair arbiter. And I I

8:16

can't stand either one of them. So, I

8:18

mean, I I'm gonna treat them equally. Canceled

8:20

each other out. Total disdain on both

8:22

sides. Right. Meantime.

8:27

We are they

8:30

they have really, you know, like,

8:32

drawn this out. The the the White House

8:34

must have made a calculation And

8:37

they must've made this calculation, you

8:40

know, in the during

8:42

the lame duck. That

8:45

they weren't gonna be able to either they weren't gonna

8:47

be able to convince Mansion

8:50

and Cinema to raise the debt ceiling.

8:52

Although they did it before,

8:54

didn't they where

8:56

they did it work around from the filibuster, we'll

8:58

ask Pareene that, but I'm pretty sure it was the debt

9:01

ceiling. That they had done it before,

9:03

like, a year ago. And

9:05

but maybe they couldn't get rid of the debt ceiling

9:08

permanently, I don't know. But

9:10

I also think that the Democrats think

9:12

that it's a a either a winner

9:14

politically or an opportunity

9:16

for them to negotiate away

9:18

some stuff that they want to negotiate get away. They're trying

9:20

to do two thousand eleven. Like, it's two

9:22

thousand eleven redux. We'll see.

9:25

But their other plan

9:27

was, oh, at least in the

9:29

house, was we're gonna

9:31

get some moderate Republicans who

9:33

will abandon because the the Republicans

9:36

have been so not

9:38

like our father's Republicans as

9:40

if they've been asleep for fifteen

9:42

years. And

9:44

there's definitely some moderates who are gonna

9:46

cross over and keep

9:49

the Republicans from essentially

9:51

holding the US economy hostage. And

9:53

who better than Nancy Mace? Who

9:55

was so outraged by

9:58

how these renegade

10:00

Republicans were acting and, oh,

10:02

I'm not gonna tolerate this and here

10:04

she is. Being interviewed by the

10:06

Washington Post obvious choice to cross

10:08

the aisle because you don't

10:10

put party

10:10

first. This is about the country's economy

10:13

and she cares. And

10:16

every time there's a debt limit

10:18

fight that really comes to the brink, it's

10:20

been in the nineteen nineties and

10:22

in the in two thousand eleven.

10:24

Both times there was a Republican

10:26

House of Representatives -- Mhmm. -- and a

10:28

Democratic president.

10:31

Why do Republicans care

10:33

about the debt in spending under

10:35

Democratic

10:35

presidents, and it's not so much an

10:38

issue under Republican presidents.

10:40

It's one of the

10:40

reasons I fought both sides for

10:43

decades now. Republicans are just

10:45

as much responsible for

10:47

our debt as as

10:49

our democrats. Both sides are

10:51

are are guilty as charged.

10:53

For a long time, it's always been

10:55

Republicans wanted to increase defense

10:57

spending, and for that Democrats wanted

10:59

to increase entitlement spending. And

11:02

neither side has held the other accountable. And

11:04

now we're in this predicament. With

11:07

trillions and trillions of dollars

11:09

of debt that we're facing. And now we have a

11:11

president who's unwilling to come to

11:13

the table and negotiate some sort of deal.

11:15

And I and I don't think this has to be

11:17

some crazy for our record. Positive.

11:19

Before we get into the part where she base basically says that

11:21

she's not going to that she's

11:23

gonna vote for this. And

11:25

she voted against raising the

11:28

debt ceiling in the past that she voted

11:30

during Trump's years to to Or

11:33

to

11:33

cut defense spending. She says that, you

11:35

know, both sides aren't doing their And

11:38

she lists that as the Republicans fault.

11:41

So, hey, I'll take some cuts of defense

11:43

back. Only if there's a Washington

11:45

Post if only there was a reporter

11:47

who had an entire, you know,

11:50

like, media organization behind them to

11:52

sort of say, like, hey. Wait a second. Your

11:56

answer doesn't make any sense unless

11:58

you voted to not raise the

12:00

debt ceiling when there was a

12:02

Republican in office. Right.

12:04

Right. But

12:07

alas. No. And now here she

12:09

goes in to talk about how she's really not

12:11

gonna cross the aisle unless she

12:13

exactly what the reporter just set up as

12:15

a as a premise that we're

12:17

gonna just do this when there's a Democratic

12:19

president. Debt

12:20

that we're facing. And now we have a

12:23

president who's unwilling to come to the table

12:25

and negotiate some sort of deal. And I and I

12:27

and I don't think this has to be some

12:29

crazy far right or left sort

12:31

of negotiation. I mean, if you were

12:33

to cut a very small

12:35

percentage of every dollar, say, one to

12:37

five pennies, one to five cents on the dollar

12:39

for every future dollar that Seder government spends, you

12:41

could balance the budget in about a decade. And

12:43

I don't think that's too much add.

12:45

Positive. Or I wanna add this

12:47

too. We don't

12:49

wanna balance the budget.

12:53

Balancing the budget. Is guaranteed

12:56

recession. And and

12:59

and and this is both

13:01

backed up by history, but also just

13:03

plain sense. There's

13:05

a finite amount of money at any given

13:07

time. And

13:10

and the government can can make more money at

13:12

any time. That's called borrowing money.

13:15

But when the

13:17

government has a surplus,

13:21

When you get rid of the debt,

13:23

when the government has a surplus,

13:26

that means that the

13:28

private sector is lacking money --

13:30

Mhmm. -- has the debt, and

13:32

that's a problem. They're

13:35

just These are two ends of a balance

13:36

sheet. So

13:40

we we don't want that. But

13:42

continue. But it isn't it just like a household

13:44

budget, sir?

13:45

It is just like a household budget. Yeah.

13:47

The household had the ability to

13:49

print their own money. Yeah. And was

13:51

divided. Let let me put this way.

13:55

If

13:56

we have a fixed amount of money in the

13:59

household, and the parents have some and the

14:01

kids have some. Or let's say just

14:03

like the all the males

14:05

have some and all the females have some or however

14:07

you wanna divide it. If

14:09

one part of that

14:11

family has and there's fixed amount of

14:13

money, if one has a

14:15

surplus, the other one has a deficit.

14:17

Mhmm. And

14:20

because the government can

14:22

borrow more money, you want them to have the

14:24

deficit. You want them to have the debt. Because

14:28

household cannot -- Do we get a pricing? -- if we

14:30

bounce the budget, is there some sort of, like, special,

14:32

like, award we get to give ourselves? Everybody

14:35

gets a sticker on their forehead of a star. Yeah.

14:37

And they get to lose their job. And then they

14:38

get to lose their job. Yeah. Three

14:40

dollars, say one to five pennies.

14:43

One to five cents on the dollar for every future dollar

14:45

the federal government spends, you could balance the budget

14:47

in about a decade. And I don't

14:49

think that's too much to ask. For

14:51

either side to come to the table and

14:53

figure out how do we do this, how do we save

14:55

social security, Medicare and Medicaid, and

14:57

then balancing out And if you

14:59

look at the penny place Social Security does

15:01

not does not contribute to the 3009.

15:04

You'll touch statutorily. And

15:06

after budget is balanced. You can increase

15:08

spending by over ten percent every year

15:10

thereafter. That's called responsible.

15:12

And it's just crazy to me.

15:14

They're at this juncture. Of course,

15:16

there's urgency, there's urgency, there's

15:18

need, there headlines to be

15:20

put into this corner without the

15:22

ability to have a conversation with

15:24

the president on what might be a responsible

15:26

next step for the next not even asking

15:28

the next year, but the next ten years to do

15:30

this in a very responsible manner, and

15:32

that's completely off the table, and I don't think that's what the

15:34

American people want right now.

15:35

Howard Bauchner: The question still

15:37

remains that was posed at the

15:39

beginning, and I'm not sure if there was a follow-up.

15:42

Why is this happening under Democratic

15:44

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15:45

the political control of

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They don't want a Republican president

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to own Social Security and Medicare cuts.

15:54

No. No.

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And so I would Biden came to

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that. He'd be an idiot to do so. Yep.

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25:29

and then we'll come back and Matt Prine

25:31

will join

25:32

us. Oh, it's Alex Preen. What did I say? Matt

25:34

Preen? Yeah. Alex Preen.

27:14

We are back, Sam Emma

27:17

Vigland, who'll be right back with us in just

27:19

a moment. Joining us

27:22

the proprietor of really the only

27:24

AP you need. And

27:27

also the cohost of the politics

27:29

of very think Contributing an editor to

27:32

the new

27:32

republic, Alex Prain. Welcome back to the

27:35

program. Happy New

27:37

Year to Year Sam. I'm really sorry

27:39

about what's happened to your apartment

27:41

since Lueda saw you. It's been

27:44

all the details have been done out

27:46

of it. Well, you

27:48

know, energy prices have been rising, and

27:50

we we unfortunately had to go with the lower

27:52

resolution for most of our

27:55

to to power to power most of our

27:57

furniture and and the the high-tech

27:59

background I use to

28:01

appear regularly on your show.

28:04

can't afford to power it anymore in high

28:06

res. And then the the, I guess, the upshot

28:08

is is you don't need to check your eyes as

28:10

often because everything's already

28:12

already somewhat blurred. So that's that's pretty

28:15

good. Alright. Let's get into

28:17

this. Let's just start

28:19

with the and

28:21

III maybe Emma stepped out because she didn't wanna be

28:23

around when I when I flexed about

28:26

this. But the the

28:28

supreme court investigation

28:30

Yeah. As as recently as, like, five or six days

28:32

ago, they were like, we've narrowed it down.

28:35

And they

28:38

announced yesterday that

28:40

apparently they're gonna end the investigation

28:43

without without solving

28:46

Yeah. way to narrow it. Yeah.

28:48

And from what

28:52

it appears, This

28:55

is who the investigation focused

28:58

on. Temporary and

29:00

permanent employees, temporary being

29:03

law clerks, permanent employees being

29:05

I guess like, you know, sort of administrative

29:07

people who had or may have

29:09

had access to the draft opinion during

29:11

the period from the initial

29:13

until the publication by

29:16

political. Now, there's

29:19

two things that seem to be absent

29:21

from this. Because one

29:23

is that permanent employees

29:25

do not include supreme

29:28

court justices. Right. And the

29:31

other thing that occurs to me is this

29:38

draft opinion is being circulated.

29:41

Like, what? Like, who had

29:43

it before the initial circulation?

29:46

There's also another question that's not associate that

29:48

that's not answered. But, I

29:51

mean, this is bullshit. It

29:53

is. And he he

29:55

he you know, I and now

29:57

that Emma's back -- Yeah. -- I can say

30:00

that I He was right in the My

30:02

prediction was. Yes.

30:05

That that my prediction was

30:07

if when they find out that it

30:09

was a conservative, that it came from, you

30:11

know, Alito, probably. If

30:13

not him, you know, somebody he authorized, then

30:17

he he they're not gonna

30:19

they're not gonna find who it was.

30:22

And if they do, even if they did find out who it was,

30:24

that person would be in the wilderness for

30:26

about six months before they get to the Heritage

30:29

Foundation and have a huge cynicure and

30:31

nobody thinks it again.

30:32

And did you point out the fact that

30:34

the one of the two people responsible for

30:36

the investigation is literally the

30:39

successor to Sam Alito

30:42

at the US attorney's office in

30:44

New Jersey, like they worked together.

30:46

Oh, well, that's that's a

30:48

little surprising. I

30:51

mean, what what's

30:53

your take on

30:53

this? Yeah.

30:54

I mean, it's I

30:57

I it's there's a really funny bind

31:00

that, I guess, Roberts and the court in

31:02

general were in. And that funny

31:04

bind is, like, if

31:06

you think of everything through the lens

31:09

of protect

31:11

the integrity of the court, but also

31:14

protect the public legitimacy of the court,

31:18

they they couldn't

31:20

do anything because you have

31:22

to have a phony investigation to

31:24

say we're investigating it, but

31:26

you can't actually pin

31:28

blame on a justice because

31:30

that would severely damage

31:33

the in public perception of the court and

31:35

the integrity of the court. So then as a

31:37

result, you have to have a sham

31:40

investigation that everyone knows is a

31:42

sham. There because

31:44

there's not really any way

31:46

out of this. But yeah. I mean,

31:48

it reminds me of I I don't know. It it

31:50

it it's

31:54

the we're getting in a sense,

31:56

we're getting more transparency just

31:59

through the complete failure

32:01

of these bullshit attempts at transparency.

32:03

Mhmm. We're all just much clearer on

32:06

how things actually work in these

32:08

institutions. What, you know, the what

32:11

what is interesting about that is this

32:14

investigation, most people

32:16

in this

32:17

country, do

32:19

not care -- Right. -- are not aware

32:21

about it -- Right. -- then they don't

32:23

they they they're it made no, you

32:26

know, it's the front pages

32:28

already. Nobody's gonna think about

32:30

it. The whole point of this investigation

32:33

anyways is for the

32:35

legal institutions. And the legal institution is looking

32:37

at this and going, this is bullshit. Mhmm. They all

32:39

know it. And, you know, there was a piece

32:41

in the

32:43

Atlantic just I

32:46

don't know, four days ago talking

32:49

about how the supreme court justices

32:51

do not seem to be getting along.

32:53

Like, which is on which

32:55

is, you know, you know, I I don't know if people are aware of

32:58

this. It's

32:58

rare. You know, they all -- Yeah. -- are fairly elite.

33:00

They're in a you know, and that I mean, they was

33:02

famous. Like, RPG, vacationing

33:05

with This with the yeah. With

33:07

the scalia. And and,

33:10

you know, Brian are making jokes

33:12

with Thomas and blah blah

33:15

blah. The the last

33:17

time there was anything like

33:19

this was in the wake of

33:21

Bushvigor. In fact, Newsweek was

33:23

running an article about it the

33:25

week that the plane hit the towers and they

33:27

pulled the article. Mhmm. And

33:31

I I've heard differing things

33:33

as to whether it was gonna be on the the

33:35

the the and this is back when Newsweek actually

33:38

meant

33:38

something. Yeah. Real men's. Actually, it was

33:40

actually a real thing. With all due respect to

33:42

people working on now. But I'm just saying it was a diff it

33:44

was a

33:44

different, you know, it was like the

33:47

network news was different

33:49

than two. And

33:51

this they track it to

33:54

dobs. Yeah. But I don't think it was the

33:56

decision alone. I think

33:58

they know. Who leaked this.

34:00

Yeah. And I so I think this has

34:02

been a sham from

34:04

the get go. And,

34:07

you know, I think when we heard a

34:09

month or two ago, was it

34:11

Kagan or Sonya Sotomayor? Say,

34:13

we're gonna know who

34:16

it is. In, like, two months, and we're gonna

34:18

announce it. That was her trying

34:20

to make sure that the investigation

34:22

was real. Yeah. By

34:24

creating expectations that they

34:26

could get to a solution here because you knew

34:28

you could get to a you could find

34:30

it. Because they know

34:32

who did it. Yeah. They know who did

34:34

it. And -- Yeah. -- the the question

34:36

is is, like, how is this going to

34:38

faster? Because the way I mean, Like, I

34:41

mean, this is pretty obvious what goes on with this type

34:43

of thing. They're like, we can't announce that

34:45

it was Elito

34:49

they're not having a group meeting where

34:51

they sit around saying this. But this is this is

34:53

how it's being communicated

34:54

between, like, you know,

34:56

John Roberts and others, like, it will

34:58

undercut the institution too much at a

35:00

key time where And that's what

35:03

they care primarily about across the

35:05

aisle. Right? Or across and

35:07

local airport. Of course. Yeah. I mean, this is

35:09

the iron law of institutions. Right? Like,

35:11

you don't want you know, you

35:13

don't want the institution to And if you're a supreme court justice,

35:16

that that

35:18

concept overall is

35:20

is more important than any given law

35:22

because you're talking about the

35:24

foundation of our democracy. And,

35:26

frankly, I'm not sure that they're

35:30

incorrect. But I also think there's a problem

35:32

because there's the

35:34

appearance. And then there's the

35:36

reality. And the reality is is

35:39

you know, at one point,

35:41

you can you can you

35:43

can not pay attention to the

35:45

infrastructure of your house. And it can

35:47

look good from outside. But at one there's gonna be a major

35:49

problem. And I think we are

35:52

gonna be heading towards

35:54

that because

35:55

this is I mean,

35:58

I just don't see how

36:00

if you are Kagan and Sotomayor.

36:03

This doesn't faster.

36:06

And -- Yeah. -- you can and make you

36:08

angrier and angrier and angrier

36:10

because let's be clear what that leak

36:12

was about. That leak

36:14

wasn't just a -- Yeah. -- here's a

36:16

leak. That leak was a

36:18

strategic leak

36:21

a tactic used

36:24

to lock, you know,

36:26

either Kavanaugh or a Kony Barrett

36:28

into

36:29

Presumably, into cut Kagan and Sotomayor directly. In the case

36:31

they were trying to build, may have essentially

36:33

took undercut Roberts. Yeah. And to

36:35

cut Roberts too.

36:38

Undercut Roberts, who was the one who was doing that, you know, sort

36:40

of that or did negotiate. I mean, this

36:42

is I think this is a big deal. I'm curious

36:44

as, like, you know, what what

36:46

what people in the legal institution

36:48

are saying? I mean, I I

36:50

think you can look

36:52

at you mentioned Kagan sort

36:56

of I think, trying to will a real investigation

36:58

into into being or a real result

37:01

into being. But she

37:05

is a good bellwether

37:08

for the

37:10

most mainstream law

37:13

institution attitude, you know. And she's

37:15

been wanted to be

37:17

wanted to be a sort

37:19

of conciliatory, like,

37:22

in the mold of of the old liberal justices who could

37:24

get along with all their colleagues. And and and

37:27

she's been I mean, she's

37:29

had been speaking at

37:32

law schools lately saying stuff like,

37:34

maybe it's less meaningful if

37:37

we can watch

37:40

baseball together. If, you know, the the institution

37:42

itself is not functioning. Like, she's actually been

37:44

making delivering lines like that.

37:46

And I mean, I

37:48

I think you know, we're gonna

37:50

I think we're gonna talk about

37:53

judiciary politics in New York in a

37:55

minute, but I I think one thing that's

37:57

happening is is, like, There's

38:02

the the

38:04

polite the

38:06

fictions that sort of sustain these institutions

38:09

are becoming harder and harder to

38:11

keep up. And, you know,

38:13

I I think I've I've

38:16

heard people who are in, you

38:18

know, who are

38:20

in law school saying stuff like, hey,

38:22

for the first time ever, students in my class are

38:24

coming into class saying the

38:27

law isn't real, you

38:29

know, which is like not

38:31

the kind of thing people who went into law school would go

38:33

in and say

38:35

before. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I

38:37

gotta be honest with you. My

38:39

contract professor refused to call me multiple times because

38:41

he knew I was gonna say that. Yeah. Exactly. And that

38:43

was so twenty five years ago, but I never became

38:46

a lawyer. But, yes,

38:48

I think, like, their the the veneer

38:50

is is is coming off. Yeah.

38:52

And I I have yet to

38:54

check-in with my dad about this to see -- Wow. -- if he There's a generational

38:57

divided. There's just I'm I'm doing

38:59

my own lobbying efforts

39:02

about the, like, emperor having no clothes. So But

39:04

the the the veneer is definitely coming off.

39:06

And the question is is, like, you know, and and

39:08

we're seeing it, like, the vocal thing plays out

39:11

in that way. And the question is is, like,

39:14

are we gonna see it on

39:16

the federal level? Like --

39:18

Right. -- Biden went to

39:20

great lengths. To protect

39:22

the supreme court status

39:24

quo. He appointed an entire

39:26

commission that was gonna look at like what

39:28

needs to be done with the supreme court and

39:31

they came back and they

39:34

said, you know, maybe

39:36

maybe we should change the

39:38

water cooler. In the Supreme Court or

39:39

maybe, you know, buy new shares. They're, like, nothing else.

39:41

No stress. They're, like, have we have

39:43

we tried respecting it

39:46

more?

39:47

Maybe the problem's

39:48

with us. Yeah. Not with this.

39:50

Maybe the problem is you're asking

39:52

a lot of important and quest

39:54

Exactly. And so, I mean, it it this

39:57

is I I don't know. I think this

39:59

is extraordinary. I mean, there because

40:02

this is It's

40:04

possible they all just go back

40:06

to their corners and say, like, okay. Well,

40:08

whatever. That's fine. You know, because it's also

40:10

came out in the past couple weeks.

40:13

Or I should say past couple months, that Alito

40:15

did this at least

40:18

one time before -- Yeah. -- in twenty

40:20

fourteen with the hobby

40:22

lobby case, He leaked it to

40:24

advocates who didn't want birth control to be

40:26

dispensed by

40:28

insurance. In a couple week a

40:30

couple weeks in advance so that they could prepare

40:32

for it. But we also know in

40:35

twenty twelve someone

40:38

from his office

40:40

probably spoke to the

40:43

Wall Street Journal about Roberts

40:45

going around and undercutting him in

40:47

terms of what they wanted do

40:49

with the ACA when they want to strike that so this has been

40:51

go ongoing and there's no reason to

40:53

believe that Elito is gonna stop. I mean, now he may

40:55

not need to because

40:58

they're, you know, the most controversial of cases has been

41:01

essentially they met they

41:03

weathered the storm, and

41:06

that's it. And then they've gone through it,

41:08

and now they're just gonna go dismantle stuff. But this is I don't

41:09

know. This is aft up. And and nobody's gonna

41:12

care. I mean I mean, not nobody,

41:14

but nobody Nobody

41:16

yeah. Most people are not prepared. Well, the most people yeah. That's

41:19

the

41:19

yeah. It's it's it's hard

41:21

to get across It

41:24

is. It's hard to get people to it's hard to get across why it matters.

41:26

But it is one of the reasons it's hard to get

41:28

across why it matters is that the

41:32

way that people, you

41:34

know, who care about the integrity of the

41:36

court. The way they try to,

41:38

like, signal a red

41:40

alert is is by giving really, really boring talks

41:42

where they hint that all is not well.

41:44

You know? Like, no one like, they're not like,

41:46

I don't know. It it it seems like

41:49

I think the conservatives

41:52

in Aledo are making they

41:54

they have made a bet that

41:58

You can't touch us? Yeah. You can't touch us. Right? And

42:00

and especially especially, like, the we

42:02

we have you we have you ever you want

42:04

you because if you care so

42:07

much about the integrity of the

42:08

court, then you can't touch us. Because, I mean,

42:10

us, touching us to tax the integrity of the court.

42:13

The court. I am the senate. Right. I mean, that that's

42:15

really what it is. Right? And he's that

42:17

he's hiding behind

42:17

that. He is the institution so you can't attack the

42:20

institute. You can't attack him. You know? This is like the

42:22

debt ceiling.

42:24

In somewhat respects, it's sort of like this, you know, the debt ceiling thing.

42:26

It's sort of like, you know, we've got

42:28

the country called hostage. And so what

42:30

are you gonna do? On some level.

42:32

And I guess the only the only there's

42:35

gonna be two things to

42:37

watch. It seems to me. Because

42:40

Joe Biden will not say anything about

42:42

this at

42:44

all. It's

42:48

the judiciary committee in the senate.

42:50

Mhmm. Dick Durbin is no Diane

42:53

Feinstein, but he's no he's

42:55

he's not much else either. Frankly.

42:57

I mean, he's he's he's pretty mealy when it comes

42:59

to this. Mhmm. It's really just a question

43:02

of, like, how how hard, let's say, White

43:04

House pushes --

43:05

Yeah. -- Sheldon White House. In

43:07

terms of whether this gets any type of hearing. White House might might actually try

43:09

I I would be surprised if he doesn't go

43:11

hard at this. In

43:15

the house, it's gonna be interesting

43:18

because a couple of days

43:19

ago, they were the the Republicans were

43:21

talking about, we need to have hearings

43:23

on this liquor. Yeah. I

43:25

think they And I I

43:28

would love them to have hearings on this

43:30

liquor, but I am starting to think, like, this might

43:32

be one of those things. Like, Oh, yeah.

43:34

We forgot to get around to that because

43:37

they're gonna get the

43:39

message that we don't want this to

43:41

come out. Yeah. Right.

43:42

Right. I mean, they were saying

43:44

that Trump was saying that, oh, the

43:46

Supreme Court late Leakers should be jailed.

43:48

Right? I mean or

43:50

at least Republicans were scared. Tough. Yeah.

43:52

Gotta be tough. But they're not so those

43:55

are the two things to look at the

43:57

judiciary in both those, you know, both

43:59

in the Senate and in the House.

44:02

But outside of

44:03

that, then I guess it's just like, you know,

44:06

how many sort

44:08

of, like, institutionalist, legal institutionalist will

44:10

start to sort of, like, give up the ghost

44:12

and and stop pretending. I

44:15

I don't I don't know. You would think

44:17

we would already pass that

44:19

point, but let's talk

44:21

about Kathy Hockel. I know

44:24

you you fall New York

44:26

State politics quite a

44:28

bit. Man,

44:30

she has, like, just keeps stepping on a rake. It

44:32

seems to me. She loses this

44:34

LaSalle fight in the Senate in

44:37

the New York

44:39

Yeah. She's now talking about suing the

44:42

state. She has retained counsel

44:44

to do that because essentially the

44:46

judiciary committee

44:48

voted down was all ten to nine. So now she's saying

44:50

she's retained counsel. She's saying she's gonna like,

44:53

that that They're only supposed

44:55

to advise and on a on a an

44:57

appointment like this. The the she's trying to do

45:00

Cuomo glad handing politics, but she has

45:02

none of the political capital to

45:04

do it. Is what

45:06

is what it seems like.

45:08

Just a couple of things that she's done over the

45:10

past, like, couple weeks. She screws up

45:12

this LaSalle thing. He's he's

45:14

horribly conservative. I

45:16

wanna talk about how Kim Jeffries coming

45:18

into. Mhmm. Yeah. She also

45:20

destroyed the right to

45:22

repair bill. Apparently,

45:24

we'll talk more about that, more specifically down the

45:26

road. She also raised

45:29

the cap on

45:32

pensions can hold more private equity hedge fund assets,

45:34

which is, you know and you combine

45:36

this with the, like, the thing that you did with the

45:39

bills, with the with the stadium, was

45:42

it you did right. It was a massive giveaway to keep the Buffalo

45:44

Bills in in Buffalo.

45:46

She's not very good

45:49

at this. Right. And and, you know, for a while, she you

45:51

know, like, like, in the wake of

45:53

Cuomo, she was, you

45:56

know, like, seemingly

45:59

at least capitulating to

46:01

all the the things you would want her

46:03

to capitulate

46:03

to, I guess. Yes.

46:06

And then somehow,

46:07

she thought that she was doing something

46:09

different. III don't know.

46:11

It's it's you

46:13

know, I think In

46:16

the right. Like, in the wake

46:17

of Cuomo, we were just we were happy to

46:20

have someone

46:22

normal. Someone who seemed

46:24

normal. And and she

46:27

was at least saying

46:31

the right things. Right? But I don't what's what's weird is that

46:33

she's acting a

46:34

little bit like she just came

46:38

off of a really

46:42

strong electoral

46:42

win. Right. But she has a

46:44

mandate, but she has a demo prats

46:47

down ballot because she was so Yeah. Yeah. And

46:49

and so she kinda

46:51

limped to election. And

46:54

the in in an environment too

46:57

where, you know, you

46:59

look at democrats in

47:02

other states where they had, you know, these

47:06

really unusually strong performances And

47:09

I don't mean, you know, I I mean, in in in what we

47:12

would call purple ish states, you know.

47:14

Like, there were Pennsylvania. With

47:16

Pennsylvania with yeah,

47:18

Michigan, you know. And and so

47:20

in New York, and

47:22

the Democrats did really, really poorly across

47:24

the board, and Hock Hockle links

47:26

to her her first

47:28

election and then comes out of

47:30

it picking a fight with the with the

47:32

state senate

47:34

that She came in not just

47:36

I think it'd be one thing. It'd be

47:38

one thing if she misread the room, thought

47:40

there wouldn't be that much opposition.

47:43

Did the thing that that New York governors have been

47:45

doing for a generation, picked

47:48

a, you know, picked

47:50

a conservative jurists

47:52

who maintain this sort

47:55

of conservative leaning majority on

47:57

the State Supreme Court. And then

47:59

expected that to sail through the Senate and then, you know,

48:02

when it and then was caught off guard

48:04

by the

48:04

pushback. But she came in she's coming in gun's

48:08

blades I mean, it's just it's just

48:10

insane to pick this fight and

48:12

have it go national, by the way, by bringing

48:14

it up to Kim Jeffries and his

48:16

willingness to to enter into this

48:18

is is very troubling

48:20

and interesting to me as well. But

48:22

in the middle of this push

48:24

by the Biden administration, to

48:28

stack judges in

48:30

positions of Seder, understanding

48:32

that the right wing has

48:34

had a leg up on this fight. Putting

48:37

appointing judges to these positions. Biden

48:39

has been proactive about that and is

48:41

breaking records with the speed

48:43

of these appointments. To

48:46

have Hocal in one of the biggest

48:48

states in the country, not

48:50

really Seder to understand

48:52

or choosing to actively ignore

48:55

The national narrative on Republicans being a

48:57

threat to democracy and pushing

48:59

a conservative nominee that would tilt the

49:01

Court of Appeals in New York

49:03

from a deadlock three to three to A43

49:06

conservative majority, and then having the

49:08

new leader of the Democrats join in on

49:10

that fight, That's a massive disconnect between

49:13

what the Biden administration is trying

49:15

to say and emphasize the

49:17

urgency of the judiciary.

49:19

And I think what it what it shows and and and

49:21

we definitely should talk more about how

49:24

strange and troubling it is that Jefferies did

49:26

that. But what it shows from Hocal

49:28

is that She underestimated

49:30

that judicial politics actually

49:33

have saliance among the most

49:35

loyal Democratic voters now in

49:37

a way where I think, you know, for a long

49:40

time, it was essentially this

49:42

idea that once you got the loyal

49:44

democrats to vote for you, you could sort of get away with

49:46

anything once you were

49:48

in office. And and Cuomo operated under those under

49:50

those that impression for a very long

49:52

time. And so maybe you just think

49:54

she didn't realize

49:56

people would both pay attention to a court fight and that they would

49:58

have strong feelings about

50:00

it, which seems politically

50:02

naive after years of of

50:05

you know, New York politics

50:08

being about figuring out how

50:10

Albany works and going after the

50:12

IDC and stuff like that. But

50:16

again, it's it's it's crazy to

50:18

want to take the fight so far that she

50:20

would suffer a defeat in the senate and

50:23

then say, she threatened at least threatened

50:25

at least to to to sue

50:27

them over it instead

50:30

of just

50:32

taking the l basically. Mhmm. You know, it

50:34

raises a couple of questions. Like,

50:38

first off, And we should

50:40

say, the one,

50:42

I think it's really good news in

50:44

terms of, like, New York State politics sucks. Yeah.

50:46

I mean, like, and and the Democratic Party

50:50

apparatus in New York State, the machine,

50:52

horrible. Right? I mean, you're talking about

50:54

everyone from really Crowley Pareene

50:56

Jeffries, to Jacobs. I mean, this is it

50:58

it is in

51:00

addition to probably being horribly corrupt,

51:04

And it's

51:06

just inept. And they're inept.

51:08

And they're they're inept as well.

51:12

And, again, this is sort of like the

51:14

iron law of institutions. So that's why Hahkeem

51:16

Jeffries is here with with Holcomb.

51:18

He has not this has nothing

51:20

to do with anything other than

51:22

maintaining a network and a power

51:24

base within New York

51:26

State. This is him just

51:28

protecting his own seat and trying to get his

51:30

own, you know, people

51:32

and and patronage and

51:34

whatnot. Yeah. You know, Hocal won only by five

51:36

points against Eldon, which is which is which

51:38

is far closer than it should have been.

51:40

And I think Schumer won by, like,

51:42

twenty points. Yeah. In

51:44

in this state. And but

51:46

she called in a lot of reinforcements and

51:48

a lot of money. And I think the idea

51:50

was, like and and, you know, this

51:52

came up when when when Zephyr teach out and when Nixon

51:54

was challenging

51:55

Cuomo. Cuomo needed to

51:58

win big.

52:00

Because he wanted to launch a national case. He wanted to be present you wanna

52:02

be people want you wanna be talk

52:05

about presidentially or maybe setting himself up

52:07

for a VP if there was

52:10

you know, it may be

52:12

a woman who is the presidential candidate

52:14

or something like that from a different

52:17

part of the country. I mean, just want to set them up to

52:19

be a national figure. I'm not convinced that

52:21

a local wasn't trying to do the same

52:23

thing. Make it seem like there's

52:25

like a real problem with Zelda, get the

52:27

money in, pad her win to

52:29

the extent that she could. And it's almost

52:31

as if she's following

52:34

the

52:34

plan, that she had -- Yeah. -- even though she didn't get that padding.

52:36

And and and and

52:38

and when I see her suing,

52:40

I think one of two things.

52:43

She isn't she is not bright.

52:46

No. Yeah. Or or

52:49

she wants to

52:52

be seen in opposition -- Yeah. -- to

52:54

the because for

52:56

whatever reason, she thinks this is

52:58

nineteen ninety three too. And that's

53:00

just not

53:02

gonna fly. It's just not gonna fly. It's not gonna help her at all.

53:04

Like, she can't become

53:06

Gretchen Whitmer -- Yeah. --

53:08

by by fighting the progressives

53:10

in New York state. Like,

53:12

she well, the country Whitmer

53:14

is fighting in a state that's a

53:16

purple state. She's in a blue

53:18

state. She's in a solid blue state and her enemy.

53:20

This is the crazy thing. It's as much

53:22

as anyone including someone

53:24

you know, as much as anyone would like to paint this

53:27

as, oh, the

53:29

purity test left is is the socialist in the

53:31

DSA and the security test left are are are

53:34

sabotaging local. It's

53:36

women's groups and labor and like

53:40

That's who you need. That's it's like whose

53:42

mainstream Democratic party if it's

53:44

not women's groups in labor. Right.

53:47

It's it's insane. It's been saying

53:49

to pick this fight over someone who's

53:52

who's who's radioactive issues

53:54

are are reproductive rights and

53:56

and and laborers. That's madness.

53:59

To pick the fight on those

54:01

particular issues in this political

54:03

environment. Well, she made a miscalculation

54:05

where she thought

54:08

that by having, you know,

54:10

by selling the idea of appointing

54:12

the first Latino in

54:15

in New York state government, essentially, where

54:18

Latinos are completely underrepresented

54:20

relative to, like, a a population numbers.

54:22

She thought that was gonna carry the day.

54:25

And and people like Assad or Rivera,

54:27

you know, all all

54:29

respect to to that guy for for

54:31

for basically coming out and both, like, having to

54:33

protect a flank by where he's, like, sort of, you

54:36

know, saying to his community, like, we

54:38

need

54:39

this representation. But it but

54:42

this guy -- Yeah.

54:44

-- he he he may be a

54:46

a Latino, but he is not representing you.

54:48

He is not representing your interests. And

54:51

and and and that's, you know, that's not an easy thing

54:53

to do. And I think Hockel

54:56

underestimated Rivera's ability to do

54:57

it. And others too. He's not the only one.

54:59

Yeah. And What's crazy is I think there's

55:01

gonna be this. I I think

55:03

that inadvertently, the repercussions

55:06

from this, I've I've I've

55:08

seen the the state senators the

55:11

Democratic state senators now saying, like,

55:13

we're not we're

55:15

gonna stop accepting traditional

55:18

nominees who have run on the

55:20

conservative party ticket, which sounds like a

55:22

reasonable thing to do. In machine politics

55:25

in New York City, that's everyone. That's

55:27

like, that actually fundamentally could

55:30

be a huge shift in how traditional

55:32

politics work.

55:34

If that becomes a new standard, they'll actually make people

55:36

adhere to. So I I think the, like,

55:38

the the backfire here could be

55:42

way bigger than than there's one nomination even.

55:44

And and also, I mean, I hope

55:46

that it becomes empowering. Because I'll

55:48

also say,

55:50

like, you

55:50

know, you mentioned, like, that she misunderstood or she

55:53

underestimated, I should say. George,

55:55

I'll be Bush over

55:57

here. It's Audrey. Poor strategic.

56:04

Hokey. Hokey. Hokey. Hokey is what I'm telling

56:06

you. You're gonna give her the side.

56:08

Hosted back. Oh,

56:09

what? She you you said that

56:11

she underestimated the voters, but it really

56:13

is the activists. Yeah.

56:15

Yeah. Like, I mean, this was I mean, it was voters in

56:18

the sense that, like, but it but it's the

56:20

most active of voters -- Yeah. --

56:22

because, you know, I

56:24

know people who contacted their state senators, who didn't

56:26

even know the name of their state senators

56:28

before they contacted them. Like,

56:30

this the

56:32

combination of

56:35

losing the house. I'm talking

56:37

about congress now. US

56:40

federal house.

56:42

Losing the house in part because of seats that were

56:44

lost in this state -- Yep. --

56:46

which were a direct result

56:50

of having a conservative majority on the state supreme court, you

56:52

know, more or less than the state supreme court.

56:57

The close proximity of those two

56:59

things happening when everybody was

57:02

like, well, at least we're gonna get the

57:04

court three

57:06

weeks or four weeks, and then she comes out with this.

57:09

I mean, New

57:12

York State Democrats,

57:14

progressives, whatever you wanna

57:16

call it, need to get engaged

57:19

because we're watching like

57:21

how California can lead the,

57:23

you know, the progressive agenda.

57:26

Whether you think that Newsom

57:28

is a

57:28

is, you know, a full of it or not, there

57:30

are things happening there -- Yeah. -- that are good. Yeah.

57:33

New York State needs to be

57:35

doing that too. Mhmm. Yeah. And

57:37

-- Yeah. -- it's still,

57:39

it's crazy. We've actually had these for a while. Cuomo has been gone

57:41

for a while, and it's

57:43

still, like, pulling teeth

57:46

to get these these progressive

57:48

priorities done in this state.

57:50

Yep. I was absurd how many

57:53

many obstacles are put in the way of doing all, like, all

57:55

sorts of stuff that should be low hanging fruit.

57:57

Yeah. People gotta get out of the

57:59

city, move to Western

58:02

New York -- Yeah. -- upstate New

58:04

York. Let's do this. People. We got

58:06

it. Well, we all yeah. We got a up zone long

58:08

island too. Like NASA and Suffolk, if we

58:10

can just we can just dump millions more people into high

58:12

rises surrounding all the LIRR

58:13

trains, then we're gonna be we're gonna be in

58:16

a new

58:18

golden age. Or or we slice

58:19

half of it off and give it to Rhode Island. Yeah. That's another option. Yeah.

58:21

That actually works too. Rhode Island has

58:23

a machine that actually, like, wins

58:25

elections by, like,

58:28

Soviet numbers, though. Yeah. You know, if you wanna talk about the ineptitude

58:30

of the New York's machine, like, they lose

58:32

elections, you know? It's crazy.

58:35

It's And and the way that they did those

58:38

referendums -- Yeah. -- a year and a half ago

58:40

now, was just

58:42

a joke. Was a

58:44

joke. Yeah. And and

58:46

and I mean, you you can only

58:48

imagine that they didn't want these reforms. It's

58:50

the only way that you can you can really

58:52

rationalize that. Alright.

58:54

Let's just move get a little bit of

58:56

time left because news

58:58

broke today. That was I

59:01

think is really gonna change the tenor of this

59:04

whole debt ceiling thing.

59:06

Mhmm. And you will

59:08

recall that when he ran

59:10

last time, early in the campaign, not

59:13

so much late in the campaign, but

59:15

particularly when he was running

59:17

within the Republican Pareene. Donald

59:20

Trump made some squawks about protecting Social

59:22

Security and protecting Medicare. And for

59:24

the most part, he never wanted

59:27

to go there. He never wanted to deal with

59:29

those things, which is a good thing. He was

59:32

willing to

59:34

cut Medicaid In the

59:36

context of the ACA and the expansion

59:38

of Medicaid, that would have been

59:40

disastrous. But in terms of like Medicare and

59:42

Social Security, he realized

59:44

that, like, that was the

59:46

way he was gonna make himself distinct from

59:48

the other Republicans and also it's

59:51

just a loser. It's a loser. It's a loser.

59:53

It's a third rail. They they call it

59:55

the third rail, and it is

59:57

the third rail.

59:59

And he has a decent gut sense of those kinds of things,

1:00:01

and it doesn't wanna go there.

1:00:02

Yeah. Right. Yeah. If you want if you want

1:00:03

if you again, if you're a guy whose brain was

1:00:06

frozen in nineteen ninety four like

1:00:08

that, you would still retain that. You would

1:00:10

retain Social Security popular.

1:00:12

Don't Right. And and

1:00:15

the Republicans have been gearing up with this

1:00:17

debt ceiling.

1:00:17

Mhmm. They're talking, we'll maybe cut

1:00:20

we'll cut some of the

1:00:22

woke stuff from the

1:00:24

military, like the rainbow

1:00:26

bombs or whatever it is that they think

1:00:28

there is. Yeah. But we really gotta

1:00:30

go for entitlements and then

1:00:32

This happened today. It was dropped on I

1:00:34

don't know if this came from truth social media

1:00:36

or

1:00:37

anything. It was posted on

1:00:39

Trump war rooms Twitter account

1:00:42

because Trump despite being

1:00:44

reinstated by Elon Musk, still can't

1:00:46

tweet because he

1:00:46

he didn't physically deal it for true

1:00:49

social. Yeah. You have a

1:00:50

great rest of your day. Thank you very much. But

1:00:53

this came out. Under

1:00:57

no circumstances, should Republicans vote

1:00:59

-- I mean, cut a -- pause it for one

1:01:01

second. Can we just go back? Like, I

1:01:03

don't know, like, like, it's if,

1:01:05

like, different speech or what?

1:01:06

But, you know, like, you know, diving right into

1:01:08

it. That was just a a

1:01:10

note a note from, like, you

1:01:14

know, try Like, a voice memo. Not even like Hey,

1:01:16

everybody. Remember

1:01:17

me? Hey. It sounds like it's just broken

1:01:19

in

1:01:19

the same time. Even when it it's

1:01:22

like

1:01:22

it's like, even on an SNL cold open, there'd be a announcer would

1:01:24

be, like, a nice message. Exactly.

1:01:26

I

1:01:26

think some of our colleagues could learn from Trump. Get

1:01:28

right to the point when Yeah. Exactly. Under

1:01:35

no circumstances, should

1:01:38

Republicans vote

1:01:40

to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social

1:01:42

Security to help pay for

1:01:44

Joe Biden's reckless spending spree, which

1:01:48

is more reckless than anybody's ever done.

1:01:51

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB.

1:01:55

Own out the federal budget wasted

1:01:57

trillions on left wing lunacy

1:01:59

and the ridiculous Green New

1:02:01

Deal, which is tremendous problem and embarrassment

1:02:03

to us and thrown open our

1:02:06

treasury and earn borders to

1:02:08

migrants from all over

1:02:10

the world, In

1:02:12

fact, migrants that are coming from prisons

1:02:14

and migrants that are coming from

1:02:16

mental institutions are being dropped

1:02:18

into the

1:02:20

United States. And we do nothing about the

1:02:22

safest border in the history of our country

1:02:24

just two years ago. And now

1:02:26

we have probably the

1:02:28

worst border I

1:02:30

don't think any country has ever

1:02:32

had anything like --

1:02:33

Oh, yeah.

1:02:33

-- allergic juices. Well, we

1:02:35

absolutely need to stop

1:02:37

Biden's out of control spending, the pain should be borne

1:02:39

by Washington Bureaus, not

1:02:42

by hardworking American families and

1:02:44

American seniors.

1:02:46

The seniors are being absolutely destroyed in

1:02:48

the last two years. Cut the

1:02:51

hundreds of billions of taxpayer

1:02:53

dollars going to corrupt foreign

1:02:56

countries. Cut the mass

1:02:58

releases of illegal aliens that are

1:03:00

depleting our social

1:03:02

safety net and destroying our country. Cut the

1:03:04

left wing gender programs from our

1:03:06

military. Cut the billions

1:03:08

being spent on

1:03:10

climate

1:03:10

extremism. Cut

1:03:12

waste fraud and abuse everywhere that we

1:03:15

can

1:03:15

find it. And there's nothing

1:03:18

but do

1:03:20

not cut. The benefits our seniors work for and

1:03:22

paid for their entire

1:03:25

lives. Save Social

1:03:28

Security, don't destroy

1:03:30

it. The democrats are looking

1:03:32

to destroy Social Security.

1:03:35

We're not going to let them

1:03:37

do

1:03:37

it. Thank you very much.

1:03:39

I mean Mhmm. -- I am

1:03:42

I am so torn by

1:03:44

this on some level. Like and

1:03:46

I think, you know, people know that, you

1:03:49

know, me. Let's get his let's get there.

1:03:52

His back in.

1:03:54

Well, first off, like, you know,

1:03:57

his his political acumen on this

1:03:59

one particular topic is quite good.

1:04:02

And III

1:04:04

this is this is great news. Because

1:04:08

this means that Democrats have to go to the

1:04:10

left of Trump on this.

1:04:12

Mhmm. I don't believe

1:04:14

that Donald Trump is a popular

1:04:16

I wanna make that clear, but he's regardless

1:04:18

of what his intentions are in this instance. He

1:04:21

is going to inhibit the

1:04:24

ability of Republicans to do this. Mhmm. Yeah.

1:04:26

Right? I mean

1:04:28

I mean, McCarthy just had to

1:04:30

go through that insane speakership fight

1:04:33

And Donald Trump, he had to go to Trump. And

1:04:36

essentially, they that's why March retailer

1:04:38

was on his side. So this is as much

1:04:41

a message Kevin McCarthy as it is to anybody who already

1:04:43

is on such shaky ground. He knows

1:04:45

who's still, you know, he still has to go

1:04:47

to the king. It's gonna be

1:04:49

interesting too to see, like, what does do? Does the scientists now

1:04:52

say cut Social Security

1:04:54

and

1:04:54

Medicare? I

1:04:56

mean, that would be I mean, this is

1:04:58

this is the and that's

1:05:00

a that's a great point too because we're at

1:05:02

the part of the what

1:05:05

it would, you know, what they call the invisible

1:05:07

primary here where, like, desantis you

1:05:10

know, everyone advising him to, like, when

1:05:12

is gonna is gonna tell him, like,

1:05:14

to do the kind of things that win you elite conservative

1:05:16

support, which is gonna include entitlement reforms. But

1:05:19

-- Yeah. -- you know, Trump

1:05:21

taken his message who

1:05:24

the actual people is is again

1:05:26

going to have the more popular position here.

1:05:28

And it it's gonna

1:05:30

be interesting like, you know, if

1:05:33

we had a functional media now, they be this would be, like,

1:05:35

you would not be able to be a

1:05:37

Republican com without hearing

1:05:40

that without hearing that quote and answering that question, what are you

1:05:42

gonna do? And you know what? If they wanna

1:05:44

cut the woke stuff from your military

1:05:46

-- Yeah. -- they can definitely go cut

1:05:49

that go go get yeah. Go cut all

1:05:51

the huge welcome money that's coming in

1:05:53

the recruiting propaganda. Yeah. Exactly.

1:05:56

Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

1:05:58

It took honestly, like, let's cut the shit out of the

1:06:00

military. Let's do

1:06:00

that. Yeah. Let's do it. It's all one

1:06:02

hundred percent how just they want

1:06:05

budget like how of that military budget. We just cut it off right

1:06:07

there. Entire all of their budget that is

1:06:10

being used to to, you

1:06:12

know, in scribe Martin

1:06:14

Luther King quotes on, you know Mhmm.

1:06:16

I'm a side of, like, a side of,

1:06:18

you know, fifteen. Fifteen. Yeah.

1:06:20

Exactly. Like, oh, please don't cut that.

1:06:22

Pull mister Trump, please. It's all these gender neutral tanks. Let's

1:06:24

get rid of those tanks. Yeah. You

1:06:27

make

1:06:27

yeah. You make us

1:06:30

so upset. But

1:06:32

then we also gotta talk about, like, first off, I would say, you

1:06:34

know, when he says, like, you know, when

1:06:36

he said elderly are getting

1:06:37

destroyed. The past

1:06:40

two years, Seniors are getting

1:06:42

destroyed too. About a half a

1:06:44

million, maybe maybe more,

1:06:46

actually died by COVID. Yes.

1:06:48

Maybe Seder hundred fifty thousand seniors. I don't know of the breakdown, but

1:06:50

a significant number. I mean, I know

1:06:52

that at least four hundred thousand, you

1:06:54

know, were were of working age.

1:06:58

So, you know, presumably the the other six,

1:07:01

seven hundred thousand older than

1:07:03

that for the most part.

1:07:06

And it's also just sort of amazing. Like, he

1:07:08

clearly was the only thing he wanted

1:07:10

to get across there was do not cut

1:07:13

Social Security in Medicare. Because

1:07:15

he had that thing where it's like, they give him

1:07:17

a line and then he comments on the

1:07:20

line and he hadn't even it didn't

1:07:22

even seem like he even thought about

1:07:23

it. Like, it's The board is

1:07:26

the worst boarder. The worst. And he's, like, a

1:07:28

Trump AI. Like, he he runs it through the

1:07:30

same sort

1:07:30

of, like, different ways of saying, framing more

1:07:32

of them. And

1:07:33

he ends it with the democrats there, which

1:07:35

I know he has to do essentially, but the message was clearly

1:07:37

to Republicans. Well, yeah. He said it at the at the top of

1:07:39

it. Yeah. He said it to to the Republicans.

1:07:41

I love the superlatives

1:07:44

too. Like, it's probably when I left, it

1:07:46

was the safest border ever now. Probably, it's the unsafeest border.

1:07:49

Worst. Just

1:07:52

horrible. Like, Do you

1:07:54

think well, like,

1:07:56

this is this is it seems to

1:07:58

me. I mean, again, this is, like,

1:08:00

democrats should be you know, doing everything they

1:08:02

they can to push the media to frame

1:08:04

it this way. But this is the big

1:08:07

test. We kept hearing four weeks

1:08:09

and weeks in the following of the election. This is the Republicans are making

1:08:11

their move away from Trump and this and that.

1:08:13

Like, are they gonna do it here

1:08:15

or not? Like, What's

1:08:18

the deal? And if I'm in the

1:08:20

White House, I'm sitting back and I'm going, like,

1:08:22

this is the best thing that could happen to

1:08:26

Mhmm. Because they're not what are they gonna come

1:08:28

to? I mean, unless in the White House,

1:08:30

you know, III don't know. It's

1:08:32

not inconceivable. I mean, Joe Biden would love

1:08:34

to be like, they they hate to

1:08:36

cut the cost of living increases on

1:08:39

on social security or something. That

1:08:41

way, they can avoid actually having to raise taxes, let's

1:08:43

say, four years down the road,

1:08:46

five years down the

1:08:48

road, years down the road to to

1:08:50

to shore up the Social Security Trust model. Well, what they I mean, what they want if they're if they're smart

1:08:52

in the White House,

1:08:54

what they wanna be doing

1:08:57

what they what they what they should

1:08:59

be doing. If they're, you know they should be doing everything can to

1:09:04

head off senate moderates from doing a

1:09:06

Simpson Bowls here. Yeah. You know? And, like, that's

1:09:08

the one of the worst case

1:09:10

scenarios here is that's where this is headed.

1:09:14

And I honestly, to be

1:09:16

clear, Simpson and Bulls was a commission

1:09:18

set up by the Obama administration Simpson,

1:09:23

longtime Republican senator, he had

1:09:25

retired at that point. Erste and

1:09:27

Bowls, a long time sort of Democratic like,

1:09:29

I think he was chief of staff for Clinton. I

1:09:31

think it Bill Clinton also a Social

1:09:33

Security privatizer at that time. And

1:09:36

so he

1:09:38

put on two opponents of social security.

1:09:40

One who is virently opposed,

1:09:42

the other who was, like,

1:09:44

just technostratically opposed in terms

1:09:46

of the way they express that

1:09:49

had a commission that was going to come out with recommendations.

1:09:52

The recommendations were only

1:09:54

going to be valid if

1:09:56

three quarters

1:09:58

of the commission signed on to them. Yep.

1:10:00

They couldn't get three quarters. And

1:10:02

so they put out a report

1:10:05

anyways and pretended it was

1:10:07

like the reports commission Yeah. And and

1:10:09

and fortunately, people push back enough on this that

1:10:12

and, frankly, the

1:10:14

the tea party wouldn't So

1:10:17

there's no way like

1:10:19

yeah. No. Right. Deal. And by the end of the Obama years, the

1:10:24

Senate Democratic caucus voted to

1:10:26

increase Social Security. Yep. It

1:10:28

was not binding because

1:10:30

it was just the caucus.

1:10:32

But So this is gonna be

1:10:34

this we're gonna see a lot in terms of, like, how our politics have progressed over the

1:10:37

next, like, four or five months

1:10:39

when we deal with this.

1:10:42

Yeah. I know I think so. I think that's right.

1:10:44

And I think that the

1:10:47

tenor of debate is certainly way

1:10:49

different than it was during the those

1:10:51

Obama

1:10:51

years. But yeah.

1:10:53

I mean, the they

1:10:57

they both have to

1:10:59

you know, battle the Republican, the conservative desire

1:11:02

to gut, you know, to

1:11:05

I got these programs,

1:11:07

but also, like, they will have to be prepared

1:11:09

for, you know, moderate Democrats to, like, want to seize this opportunity

1:11:11

too. So I will

1:11:12

But yeah, I think you're right.

1:11:14

Well, we're gonna see how much the debates change.

1:11:18

It should be interesting.

1:11:20

And hopefully, you know, like, there

1:11:22

is the there'll be a

1:11:24

ramping up of the sort

1:11:26

of like the mechanisms that have protected social security --

1:11:29

Mhmm. -- over the past fifteen

1:11:31

years or so. You know,

1:11:34

there's been they come back to this world very

1:11:36

often. Yeah. And and,

1:11:38

you know, this is this

1:11:41

is the famous thing that

1:11:43

that Al Gore, I mean, people may not even know what I'm referring to

1:11:45

at this point, but Al Gore running in the

1:11:47

in in the two thousand election was talking

1:11:49

about a

1:11:50

lockbox. Yeah. The lockdown won't turn

1:11:51

over again. Well,

1:11:53

and that's I mean, it's you

1:11:55

know, that became a it became a joke maybe really with the lockbox, but then it's like, what did

1:11:59

Bush do in second term,

1:12:01

but someone else who someone else who misunderstood what the mandate was. I mean, I think Trump remembers

1:12:03

that. tried to try to

1:12:06

sort of do a big

1:12:10

Social Security privatization pushed and that

1:12:12

ended up completely asked. That that

1:12:14

was the first law. That was

1:12:16

before Katrina, if I remember correctly.

1:12:18

Was right after his election. Yeah. He came out.

1:12:20

He wanted to privatize. He walked down into, like,

1:12:23

some basement of the treasury. Yeah.

1:12:25

And he just said, there's no money

1:12:27

here. Just IOUs. Just I just Yeah. I just piece of

1:12:29

paper. Yeah. Just piece of paper. IOUs,

1:12:31

which incidentally, we

1:12:34

call in this country treasury bonds.

1:12:36

Yeah. Yeah. Which which the whole debt ceiling

1:12:39

fight is all about. Yes. People don't

1:12:41

have they just have

1:12:43

IOUs. Yep. That's it. And

1:12:46

-- Right. -- we don't default

1:12:48

on that. And what what Gore was

1:12:50

saying at the time with the lockbox

1:12:52

is the US government was borrowing from

1:12:54

the Social Security Trust Fund -- Yeah.

1:12:57

-- and didn't wanna

1:12:59

pay it back. And the way

1:13:02

they wanted to avoid paying it back was by basically cutting Social

1:13:04

Security, so it wasn't immediate that

1:13:06

you needed to pay it back.

1:13:10

Right. And so he was going around saying we need this to be

1:13:12

a lockbox because statutorily

1:13:15

speaking, Social

1:13:17

Security cannot add to the

1:13:18

deficit. Right. It has its own revenue stream. It is

1:13:21

distinct from the general budget.

1:13:23

It cannot contribute

1:13:26

to the deficit. What needs to happen is we need

1:13:28

to get rid of the cap on social

1:13:30

security. They should have done that preemptively,

1:13:31

by the way. I mean,

1:13:34

in hindsight, it doesn't mean Yeah. There were a lot of they needed

1:13:36

to to that they were working with with

1:13:38

in Biden's first two years, but that would

1:13:42

have saved us a lot of hurt if they were just proactive

1:13:44

about raising the cap

1:13:46

or eliminating it altogether, honestly.

1:13:50

Alex Preen. Always

1:13:52

a pleasure. We will check

1:13:55

back with you probably in

1:13:57

several weeks and see

1:13:59

where we're at. Watch this crap show

1:14:01

unfold. Hopefully, by then, we'll be able to talk about the

1:14:04

different birthmarks on

1:14:07

Hunter Biden's, you know, private parts. Mhmm. Because we'll

1:14:10

have seen it, and and we'll

1:14:12

be in

1:14:14

full on mayorges impeachment hearings. Yeah.

1:14:17

What else? What is there anything

1:14:19

else that you anticipate? Oh,

1:14:24

Google

1:14:26

and Facebook

1:14:29

show trials. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna get we're gonna we're gonna

1:14:32

have the all of the tech guys hold up.

1:14:34

I mean, and and and I think we're gonna have,

1:14:36

like, like, there's gonna be, Seaspan's

1:14:38

gonna be nothing but Shadow Band hearings, you know, just like Are they gonna play that on Seaspan,

1:14:40

or is it gonna

1:14:43

be exclusively on rumble? I'm

1:14:46

not sure, but Alright. Alex Preem.

1:14:48

Always a pleasure. Appreciate it.

1:14:50

Of course. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Alex.

1:14:55

Alright, folks. Now on

1:14:57

to the crowder stuff. I

1:14:59

know Alex Pareene probably

1:15:02

bummed, did he miss that?

1:15:04

Which we do.

1:15:05

Should we go into the fun half or oh, I

1:15:07

mean For freebie Friday. You

1:15:10

could

1:15:10

do a freebie Friday. Keep the

1:15:13

carter stuff and the free stuff. It's your

1:15:15

call. I mean, it would be a big draw. Mhmm. What's

1:15:19

that for the fun app? Mhmm. Yeah. I guess maybe we'll do

1:15:21

that because, you know, I learned a

1:15:23

lesson from this big fight between them.

1:15:26

You have to be a businessman about

1:15:28

it? Well well,

1:15:30

you know, and we'll get to this in the thing, but there's a dynamic that

1:15:33

crowder and that

1:15:36

boring guy But

1:15:39

is that his literally his name? Yeah. Jeremy

1:15:41

Bourne. We're arguing about,

1:15:43

you know, a lot of it has

1:15:45

to do with, like, if your YouTube

1:15:47

thing is inhibited, your revenue is inhibited, and

1:15:49

this and that, and crowder is trying to

1:15:51

make it I mean, this is that's

1:15:54

a this is I can't wait to unpack all this because there's so much bullshit

1:15:56

flowing around here. It's unbelievable. I'm just wearing a lot

1:15:58

today because I think I'm so

1:15:59

excited. Yeah. Yeah. I mean That's a

1:16:01

default. Just throwing into the office. The

1:16:04

energy was different. Yeah. No. It's

1:16:06

like Big Tech is in bed with big cons. Yeah.

1:16:12

Oh. But One of the things

1:16:14

that crowder, his whole strategy has been, if you wanna

1:16:16

see me, be

1:16:19

explicitly anti Semitic, or

1:16:23

explicitly racist or

1:16:25

explicitly a a

1:16:28

COVID denial. Or, you

1:16:30

know, explicitly transphobic. Although, he seems to be able to get

1:16:33

away with that

1:16:36

on YouTube. You're gonna have to

1:16:38

join the mug club.

1:16:39

Mhmm. Now with with with the with the fun half, you

1:16:42

can watch us live. And

1:16:44

and see it. And sometimes anyone put out

1:16:46

a clips too. But but we don't that's just like

1:16:49

that's just our business model. We

1:16:51

don't like, There's

1:16:55

nothing that we do in the front

1:16:57

half that's gonna get us banned from YouTube any

1:16:59

more than what gets us in

1:17:01

the in the front half. Right. Because

1:17:03

I am not

1:17:05

self loading enough

1:17:08

to

1:17:09

expand that to

1:17:12

all Gotcha. Right? So I'm not

1:17:14

anti somatic. I am not racist. I mean, we're all

1:17:18

practiced white supremacy in some fashion or another, but I

1:17:21

don't say racist things,

1:17:23

I hope. I

1:17:26

am not anti facts. I

1:17:28

am not a COVID

1:17:30

denier. Mhmm. I am not transparent. HIV denier. I am not HIV

1:17:35

denier. Alright. Forgot he was gone. And so we don't have to encourage

1:17:37

people to go that. But what we do,

1:17:39

we do, let's say, like, oh, if

1:17:41

you wanna see me crap all

1:17:43

over crowd

1:17:44

here, and and

1:17:46

also a bench bureau. I mean, the burns might be so sick that it

1:17:49

could be

1:17:52

classified as I don't

1:17:54

know, something a little bit controversial. Put up the picture. Put up the picture that I put on my before

1:17:59

the show today. I will show you

1:18:01

this. This will be on the the free show. Not safe for work people.

1:18:04

This is bear this

1:18:06

is barely safe for work. Yeah.

1:18:10

This is this is to

1:18:12

give you a little preview of what's gonna

1:18:14

be happening today on the program in

1:18:16

the front

1:18:17

half. Could you put that up? There

1:18:19

we go. This is

1:18:22

it right here.

1:18:24

There we

1:18:26

go. There we go. I

1:18:29

mean Does that photoshopped or is

1:18:31

that a toy? That is a toy apparently saw when he came back from Christmas

1:18:36

and seeing seeing his his his grandparents. This is what

1:18:38

he came back with one of these things. Does it light up

1:18:42

and make noise? It looks like it lights

1:18:43

up. I don't know, actually. I didn't I only

1:18:46

put it on once because I was like, dude,

1:18:48

there's too much junk in this house.

1:18:50

Well, you gotta run to see mother.

1:18:52

If you yeah. If you're getting if you're like But

1:18:54

but I said, but wait. Let me first. Let me take it. Let me

1:18:57

take a selfie with it. I have

1:18:59

a couple of my ducks. But

1:19:02

they're all basically like that. And I knew I would have to deploy it at one point, and here it is. Yep. Perfect. And then,

1:19:04

you know, what

1:19:07

I did is III

1:19:09

squeezed my hand and pointed at him and I I made him evaporate my

1:19:11

son. Oh, there we go.

1:19:14

And but I did that

1:19:16

to save half the

1:19:18

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1:21:11

twenty second. Doors at six, show at seven, folks still think available. Check

1:21:13

it out. It's

1:21:15

gonna be crazy. It's

1:21:19

gonna be fun. Emma, what's

1:21:21

happening on ESPN? Yesterday,

1:21:24

Bradley and I gave our

1:21:26

picks for the divisional round for

1:21:28

for the NFL, which is my favorite

1:21:30

favorite weekend. It's a little bit more anxiety inducing

1:21:35

because the giants playing. So I don't have

1:21:37

the same excitement that I normally have. It's more just like kind of terror and

1:21:40

anxiety, but Anyway,

1:21:43

we gave our pigs against the spread. We also spoke about

1:21:46

the incident with the Philadelphia

1:21:48

flyers where

1:21:50

a player decided to object to wearing a pride jersey on

1:21:52

religious grounds and habits basically

1:21:54

bullshit. And among other things,

1:21:56

youtube dot com slash ESVN

1:22:00

show. When described. Yeah. He's that

1:22:02

that's

1:22:02

idiotic. Oh. Does he not play on

1:22:05

anything?

1:22:05

Does not does not

1:22:08

play on on the

1:22:10

Lord's Day? Apparently, he does play on Sundays. What? Yeah.

1:22:12

That I

1:22:15

I thought, like, keeping the Sabbath

1:22:17

holy was a little bit higher on the list of things. I mean, what's holier

1:22:19

than the gridiron? He's also contractually obligated

1:22:22

to do it and they were

1:22:24

supposed auction

1:22:26

those jerseys off to LGBTQ

1:22:28

charities after the game. So he pushed

1:22:30

his contract as well. Wow. Anyway, Matt,

1:22:35

what's happening

1:22:35

in the oh, well, live show. Black entertainment.

1:22:38

Come to the live show folks. That's what's

1:22:42

happening this weekend. Left reckoning. And if I if I correctly,

1:22:44

doors open at show

1:22:47

starts at six. Yeah. Which

1:22:49

is a bold strategy, but we're

1:22:51

gonna hope it pays off for

1:22:53

us. Yeah. Here, I'll put it up

1:22:56

for a a few people one last

1:22:57

time. Under twenty one with print only regarding.

1:23:00

So, yeah, wanna

1:23:02

work. Can you scroll

1:23:03

down just a little bit, Bradley?

1:23:05

January twenty second at the cutting room,

1:23:08

forty four East thirty second

1:23:10

Street, New York, close to the Empire State Farm. So if you're comfortable in town, you can, you know, look at that. It's nice. Go

1:23:16

go early go

1:23:18

maybe about five fifteen. Go get your near Korea town. Go get some Korean barbecue -- Mhmm. -- then head over.

1:23:20

Also, you could do

1:23:23

karaoke before you come. There's

1:23:27

fun karaoke places in that area. Don't do

1:23:29

that.

1:23:29

But I did do Korean -- Oh, yeah. -- but

1:23:31

I would

1:23:31

never I would is

1:23:34

seeing them in a karaoke setting? I I couldn't imagine it. No. I've been in

1:23:36

it once or twice, and it's not it's

1:23:38

-- You hate it. -- everybody is uncomfortable

1:23:42

with me even just being

1:23:43

there. Six more 6257 thirty nine twenty

1:23:45

Pareene number we'll see in the

1:23:47

front half. You

1:23:49

are in for it. Alright, folks.

1:23:52

twenty. See you

1:23:55

in the fun. Are

1:23:59

you ready?

1:24:07

Who sent us? Then

1:24:09

or two. Alpha males are back, back, back, back, boy,

1:24:11

back, and the alpha

1:24:15

males are back. Back. Just

1:24:17

as delicious as you could imagine, the alpha males are back,

1:24:19

back, back, back, back, boy,

1:24:21

back, and the alpha males

1:24:24

are back, Bye

1:24:26

bye. Just wanna degrade the white

1:24:29

man. Half the males are back.

1:24:31

Bye. I have to take all of

1:24:33

it to my throne. Alpha males

1:24:35

are back, back, back, back.

1:24:37

Snorkels says what? The alpha

1:24:39

males are back, back, back, back.

1:24:41

You're out of Matt, back.

1:24:43

And the alpha males are back. Back. Oh, no. Sam

1:24:45

Cedar. What a what a fucking

1:24:47

nightmare? Nightmare. I

1:24:50

appreciate it. Yeah. Or a

1:24:52

couple

1:24:53

put them in rotation. DG down. Well, the

1:24:55

problem those they're, forty seconds so don't if the global break.

1:24:59

That's Seder, white people,

1:25:01

there were drugs who looked worse than normal white people, and all white people looked

1:25:04

disgusting on the

1:25:06

alpha males or psych Snorkels

1:25:16

says what?

1:25:16

What what what what

1:25:19

what what what what

1:25:21

what

1:25:22

what makes sense. What? I

1:25:25

have a lot of back. I have a lot

1:25:27

of back. I have

1:25:30

a lot of

1:25:32

back. I'm making

1:25:34

stupid money. I love a

1:25:36

lot of back. I love

1:25:38

a lot of back. That's

1:25:42

Oh, lives

1:25:47

matter. Have you tried doing

1:25:50

an impression on a college

1:25:52

campus? I I think that there's

1:25:54

no reason why reasonable people across the divide can't all agree with this. Psych

1:25:59

and the alpha males are back, back, back, back, back,

1:26:02

back, back, and the Africans

1:26:04

are black,

1:26:06

black, black, black, black Black the males are

1:26:08

black, black, black, black, black, black,

1:26:10

black, black, and the Africans are

1:26:15

black, black, black. See, Donald Trump out

1:26:18

there doesn't a little party you think that America deserves to be taken over by

1:26:19

jihadists. Keeping at one

1:26:21

hundred. Can't knock the hustle.

1:26:24

Come on.

1:26:26

Buck them. Buck them. Buck them. Things

1:26:28

I do for the bigger game plan.

1:26:30

By

1:26:31

the way, it's my birthday. Happy

1:26:35

birthday to meet you, boy. I have a

1:26:37

caustic sentiment for you. And the alpha

1:26:39

males are back, back,

1:26:42

after those are

1:26:43

black, black, black black after those

1:26:45

are black after. Come

1:26:47

on. Come on.

1:26:50

Come

1:26:51

on. Come on. Someone needs

1:26:54

to pay the price

1:26:57

of plasma around here.