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big one because someone said, wow,

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not a blue or white shirt.

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No, okay. It's

5:44

green. It is. It's

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like a sort of a faded green. Army

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green. Yeah, I guess. It's

5:53

a casual Friday. I

5:56

am in my casual Friday wear

5:58

apparently, you know, strange. because it's

6:00

not the same blue shirt I was

6:02

stuck wearing for, I get in ruts

6:04

when it comes to clothing. I think I

6:06

can't help it. That's okay. Yep. I

6:09

just still now stand by again

6:11

that it's difficult to be a

6:13

metrosexual in the way

6:15

that it

6:17

was defined back in the aughts when

6:19

you have clothing ruts or you wear

6:22

like the same five shirts

6:24

every week. That's not true. Yeah,

6:26

I don't say, I think that

6:28

that's... It's a snapshot in time. And I

6:30

can tell which one you're wearing because one's got a

6:32

hole in the sleeve and the other one's got

6:34

a marker stain on it. Okay. I

6:37

mean, I don't know. Cut the

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beat. Exactly. We've

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got a lot to get to today. Also

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meanwhile This

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8:21

Trump is his trial continues

8:24

his criminal trial We don't know what's

8:26

gonna happen with that But one of the things that has been

8:28

a danger for Trump and

8:30

I think his lawyers have been able to

8:32

successfully communicate this to Him is

8:35

that he keeps violating his gag order

8:38

and the judge is basically like

8:40

look You know,

8:42

we're gonna charge you the 11,000 which is the top

8:44

or the other alternative is I put you in jail

8:47

but the judge doesn't want people talking about

8:49

his children or his kids the

8:51

judges or intimidating

8:53

witnesses or tampering with

8:56

you know, jury pool, I mean any of this and So

9:01

Donald Trump has gotten the message and What

9:04

he has brought is a one

9:07

of those ventriloquist dummies with

9:09

him named Well,

9:14

you you may know him as the From

9:19

filter guys to Yes

9:23

Rick Scott is his is the

9:26

name of his ventriloquist dummy We're

9:30

warned at war so that's why

9:32

this is happening Joe Biden knows in different

9:34

though that he cannot win We're

9:46

trying to prosecute this president or

9:48

how a how an

9:50

expense with was All

9:53

there was I've

10:03

watched what happened to me and my company.

10:05

I've watched what's happened. I've talked

10:07

to business people over the years for what's

10:09

happened to them when you have political persecution.

10:12

And now what I've watched what person's up and down with

10:14

all these cases. This is just simply they

10:17

don't want this guy on the ballot. I mean, they

10:19

tried to kick him off the ballot in the States.

10:22

Now they're trying to put him in jail. They tried everything they

10:25

can because they know they can't beat him.

10:27

I don't believe that it was a legal. I

10:30

don't believe it. Remember

10:32

what this is about. They're

10:34

trying to question this guy for how

10:37

something was recorded. And

10:39

that's all it is. This is just

10:41

pure political persecution. Will you be joining

10:44

Tom on the campaign? Alright. No.

10:47

It's so funny. This is well, I

10:49

mean, aside from the fact that he's

10:51

obviously been brought up there to be

10:53

his little ventriloquist dummy. Two

10:57

things. One, you

11:00

have Rick Scott saying, you know, they tried to do

11:02

this to me. Click

11:06

on the link I just put there. He

11:08

knows a thing or two about maybe

11:10

some – He invoked the Fifth

11:12

Amendment in hearings

11:16

on his company's Medicaid

11:18

fraud. Excuse me, Medicare

11:20

fraud. I think

11:23

he invoked it something like 51 times. I

11:26

may have that number wrong. It could be even more than

11:28

that. The

11:30

Fifth Amendment, so they didn't self-incriminate

11:33

himself, they had

11:35

a scam for $1.7 billion. Put

11:38

this headline up there, Bradley. It's

11:42

behind the paywall. We're working on it. I'll read

11:44

it here. Rick

11:47

Scott tries to rewrite history on $1.7

11:49

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11:54

just to be clear, you get an

11:57

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11:59

Scott – Sleep. That night.

12:02

Ah, Despite the fact that his company.

12:04

Had. The biggest. Medicare.

12:07

Fraud case may be in the history

12:09

of the country. It's

12:11

he's is talking about like it's just how

12:14

the money was recorded. It

12:17

in other words, it was considered

12:20

a business expense instead of a

12:22

a campaign expense. It.

12:24

It That's what. Broad It

12:26

is. Right right? Your

12:28

Doc robbing the government? I

12:32

and. I mean it when

12:34

you what it like that it's like when

12:36

say you can guy you commit vehicular manslaughter

12:38

you can be like I just ran over

12:40

a bump in the road and I was

12:42

just moving forward. I had my foot on

12:44

the gas. What do you expect me to

12:46

do? He's also the this

12:48

is is desperate plea to be in senate leadership.

12:51

Because. We talked about it's

12:53

a bit before the show, but people will remember

12:55

that he and Mitch Mcconnell. Had kind of

12:57

a a feud. In the senate because

12:59

he came out with his tax

13:01

plan which was too obviously tilted

13:03

towards the rich or was it

13:05

I guess cutting into Medicare. Or

13:08

Medicaid, Medicare, and Medicaid out

13:10

This also follows. Or Mitch

13:12

Mcconnell blaming Rick Scott who

13:14

was head of the Senate

13:16

Real or Election Know committee

13:19

the Republican know around reelection

13:21

committee for recruiting such crappy

13:23

I'm. Candidates. And.

13:25

So there was. There was a lot

13:27

of animosity between the two. Ah,

13:30

but. You

13:32

know, Mitch Mcconnell is on the way out And

13:34

nine. Gala. Gala Trump. To

13:36

get to get anywhere in the Republican party

13:39

right now? Go to Go Kiss the Wringer.

13:41

Go do a press conference for the guy

13:43

on trial. And. Be

13:45

speaking for me but now believes

13:48

is the occurs he said up

13:50

he said us because of all

13:53

and whose people who get caught

13:55

force massive fraud. Like.

13:57

Literally. it's like Trump said like. You.

14:00

Wanna see fraud to belittle the

14:02

guy talking right? Broken learning made

14:04

all these some innovative. gonna go

14:07

into a tunnel of fraud and

14:09

I did. You see I'm a

14:11

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14:13

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14:15

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14:18

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Nome canceled her book tour apparently

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23:27

no. No, that would be Naomi Wolf,

23:29

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23:36

Let's just start off with this just for you.

23:39

It's Friday and And then

23:41

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23:43

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23:45

let's just start off with this This

23:50

is Kristi Nome on

23:53

Just earlier this week on with Stuart

23:56

Varney This

23:58

is just before she can't put a book to

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her and I think you get the reason why she did

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24:10

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24:12

her people and

24:14

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24:17

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24:20

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24:25

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24:27

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24:30

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24:32

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24:35

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24:40

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only person who will decide this. He's the only

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person who will decide. And I spoke. Yes,

24:49

I do speak to him. May I ask what he said to you about

24:51

being my president? I never tell anybody my

24:53

personal conversations. Did the dog story come up in

24:55

your conversations? I talk to President Trump all the

24:57

time about the dog, about a lot of things.

24:59

And right now I tell you what he is

25:02

being persecuted in a political hunt, witch

25:04

hunt in this court case. So I'm

25:06

proud of him about how tough he is and

25:08

how well he is doing. Did you bring up

25:10

a dog? Enough, Stuart. Did you bring up a dog

25:12

with Trump? This interview is ridiculous what you were doing

25:14

right now. So you need to stop. It is.

25:17

Okay. It is. I'm

25:20

afraid we're out of time. Oh, well, of course we are. We do.

25:23

I don't know if I'm going to be with us. I know I

25:25

pressed hard, but that's what people are talking about to this day. Yeah.

25:28

Go to know. Thanks for joining us. We

25:30

appreciate it. We'll be back in just a

25:32

minute. Wow. Don't think that you are in

25:34

line. Okay. We

25:37

got Ryan Grimm on the phone here. Ryan,

25:40

is that one of the sort of just

25:42

one of the most defeated moments you've ever

25:44

seen of a politician? That was just amazing

25:46

to me. I'm

25:49

already dead. You need to stop. Right.

25:51

I'm like the already dead mane. Just

25:55

absolutely brutal. And you know, she read,

25:57

I just, I read my

25:59

audio. I read my own audiobook for

26:02

the squad that came out in December and

26:04

I found errors in it as I did

26:06

that and we were able to fix them in the e-book and

26:08

then they got fixed in the next printing.

26:12

Nothing as major as, oh

26:14

shoot, did I say that I met Kim Jong-un?

26:17

I didn't actually do that but

26:19

the point is that she read

26:22

that and did not

26:24

think it was in the book. It's in the book twice apparently.

26:27

Right and she's like when this was brought to my

26:29

attention we fixed it. Even

26:32

if you didn't write it or read what your ghostwriter

26:34

wrote, you read it out loud

26:36

into a microphone and that's

26:38

besides the whole question of the dog. My

26:41

conspiracy theory with the dog is that

26:43

it never even happened and Corey Lewandowski

26:46

talked her into putting it in there

26:48

because he told her that Trump hates

26:50

dogs. That was Sam's theory Ryan. Ryan

26:52

that was Sam's theory. Sam

26:55

we are brilliant conspiracy minded analysts

26:57

here. Well I would even go further

27:00

on that. It backfired.

27:03

It totally backfired. I'm also not

27:05

convinced that like maybe she was

27:07

on one of these trips with

27:11

the president when he went with

27:13

Trump when he went to the DMZ and

27:16

it was just supposed to be hush-hush. I was

27:19

wondering about that too. Maybe she was

27:22

traveling with Corey Lewandowski and it

27:24

came out and she's like oh

27:27

I wasn't supposed to know. Yeah.

27:31

Oh that was classified that me and Corey

27:34

went over there. That's

27:36

what it sort of sounds. It

27:39

sounds like sometimes usually that's

27:41

like usually what something like that

27:43

is it seems to me. Because

27:46

how do you just blatantly write I

27:48

met Kim Jong Un and

27:51

you hadn't ever. It's just

27:53

weird. Because also it's like a who

27:55

cares thing too. There's no

27:57

real points earned among the

27:59

Republicans. an electorate because you had

28:02

this encounter with Kim Jong-un. Although

28:04

he had a lot of friends apparently. Nobody would

28:06

have read the book and go like, she

28:09

never met Kim Jong-un and never

28:11

stared down that little tyrant. Well

28:14

I think she wanted to basically talk

28:16

about how she was a tough Sunday

28:18

school teacher, Christian school, working

28:20

backwards from the joke about calling the

28:23

kids little tyrants and then she decided,

28:25

eh, I've been to South Korea, it's

28:27

good enough. Maybe.

28:31

Maybe she did meet him and we're just not allowed to

28:33

know. She

28:37

told her ghostwriter about it and the ghostwriter was

28:39

like, oh this is good, I'll slip this in

28:41

here. It's a good theory. And

28:43

then yeah, Noam is reading it and she's like,

28:45

eh, maybe this will be okay. Well then Corey

28:47

reads about it in the paper and goes, what

28:49

are you doing? That was a secret, we weren't

28:51

allowed to tell that we took you. That's

28:56

my guess. Because

28:58

then she keeps going, why was it in ag

29:00

policy for 30 years? Okay.

29:04

Strange. Alright. Let's

29:07

move on to more serious things. Though I

29:09

guess like Christy Noam, if

29:11

you have her in the VP pool, it

29:14

seems like you can cross her off of

29:17

that one. We're

29:20

not that far from the

29:22

Republican National Committee.

29:26

And so I mean convention,

29:28

I should say. So I

29:30

don't know, we may even know before then,

29:32

but we're going to

29:34

know soon enough. But let's talk

29:36

about what happened this week. The

29:39

big story of course is President

29:44

Biden saying

29:46

that he was going to cut

29:48

off offensive weapons

29:52

if Israel goes

29:56

full on into Rafa. Now

29:58

there's like... There's

30:00

discrepancies in wiggle were room and

30:02

weasel wordy, you know when it

30:04

comes to like the both on

30:07

the weapon side and on

30:09

the Raffa

30:11

side, but how big of a

30:14

deal do you think this is? I Think

30:17

it's a huge deal I mean I think we

30:20

and I have to remind myself that I'm in

30:23

something of a bubble on on these questions because

30:26

From my perspective I see it and I think

30:29

well you already sent them all the weapons they

30:31

need to completely flatten

30:33

Raffa This is at

30:35

the very 11th hour It

30:38

screams too little too late But

30:42

from outside of that bubble, there

30:44

is just an absolute complete meltdown going

30:46

on kind of in in a pack

30:48

world right now Where

30:51

they see this as a potential

30:54

hinge moment In the history

30:56

of the US-Israel relationship. Yeah, because

30:58

you know, you couldn't get

31:01

more than a few dozen Democrats to

31:04

sign legislation that

31:06

would you know, restrict money from

31:08

going to is Israeli

31:11

units that were you

31:13

know that had been found to be

31:15

abusing children in detention like they narrowed

31:17

it down to like

31:20

the most palatable Legislation

31:22

that they could possibly think of and

31:25

would have Betty McCollum, you

31:27

know in offensive member of Congress Sponsor

31:30

it and even that would only

31:32

get a couple dozen Democrats signing

31:34

it every year and so to

31:36

have the president United States under any circumstances putting

31:40

any conditions on anything whatsoever they

31:42

the apex sees as a Break

31:45

in the dam, right? I think a

31:47

pack no a pack knows that it has Artificial

31:50

power Like it

31:52

is it's really hope it's really holding up its

31:55

power With an

31:57

enormous amount of money and influence

31:59

it has over members of Congress, but

32:01

that there's not much behind it, and

32:03

that if it breaks, the whole

32:05

thing could crumble. So I think that that's

32:07

why they really don't want to see any

32:10

change in policy whatsoever, because I think they worry

32:12

about a real snowball effect. And

32:14

I just want to be clear,

32:17

that legislation you're talking about, this

32:19

is not the determination of the

32:21

UN or some other. We're

32:25

talking about US determination of

32:27

what the Israeli units

32:30

had done. And so

32:32

I just want to make that clear. This is the

32:35

biggest ally, the most

32:38

reflexive ally of Israel

32:40

in the world, in

32:43

an administration, at least in terms

32:46

of democratic administrations, could not be

32:48

more pro-Israel. A

32:50

guy who supposedly from an Achaanbeigan's

32:52

standpoint was a little bit too

32:55

gung-ho. And

32:59

it's this administration

33:01

that found that information

33:04

about the, or I should say, has acknowledged

33:08

that information about those units. But

33:12

I just want to make that point absolutely

33:14

clear, because, you know, as

33:16

this information travels. This

33:19

point about AIPAC, I think, is

33:21

really fascinating, because I've been saying

33:23

for a long time, I think Joe

33:26

Biden is going to be, we're never

33:28

going to have another democratic president who

33:30

is going to be this sort

33:33

of reflexively, unconditionally

33:36

pro-Israel. And

33:38

the fact that even he has to move back, because

33:40

what you're saying, I think, is it is

33:43

a function of US

33:46

public sentiment. And because

33:48

AIPAC has built

33:50

its power almost

33:52

exclusively on its

33:54

ability to threaten politicians with

33:57

spending against it or give money to

33:59

the people. to them, there

34:02

is no constituency

34:04

that can rebuild their

34:06

power once that allure is

34:08

gone. And there's a sense that

34:10

people can compete with that. And

34:13

whether it's Summer Lee doing it

34:15

also takes a little peg out

34:17

of the mystique. That's

34:21

what they're facing. Yes. Yes.

34:25

I think that's exactly right. That's

34:29

exactly right. If they

34:31

suffer a defeat, it's very hard for them to

34:33

come back from that. And then they wind up

34:35

being a Republican organization, sort

34:38

of like the way that the NRA

34:40

became. And that means

34:42

that... Or Kufia, for that matter. Right.

34:46

Right. Right. And

34:48

so that means if Republicans get in power, then they've got

34:51

some sway. If Democrats are in power,

34:53

then they're struggling. But at the same time,

34:56

that means they're linking up with

34:59

a Republican Party that is increasingly,

35:03

seriously anti-Semitic. And

35:06

has these underlying white nationalist tendencies

35:10

that makes for a

35:12

very difficult alliance. And you're seeing

35:14

that play out in the kind

35:16

of alt-right cauldrons out

35:18

there on the Internet where

35:21

you have an enormous amount of hostility

35:25

to Israel that

35:28

often gets conflated on the left as anti-Semitism, but

35:30

on the right, there's a

35:33

significant amount of it that

35:35

is. And even the kind of

35:37

pro-Semitism or whatever you call it from

35:39

the kind of question of evangelical things,

35:41

which is really gross too.

35:44

They're like, what do they

35:46

call it? Displacementism or whatever. But the

35:49

Mike Johnson idea that the

35:51

reason that the Christians are supporting Israel has

35:53

something to do with the

35:55

reckoning and Christ coming back and all

35:57

that. That's a... That's

36:00

a dicey coalition to put

36:02

together. And you can't square

36:04

it with, I mean, you need in

36:07

terms of public sentiment, as you guys are saying,

36:09

how can you make charges of

36:12

anti-Semitism when that kind of convergence

36:14

into it being a Republican organization

36:16

is complete? Because, you know, when

36:19

you actually talk to, say, Jewish

36:21

voters or Jewish Americans, they

36:24

are not Republicans. They

36:26

are overwhelmingly Democrat. And so

36:28

then I think they

36:30

lose control of the narrative if they

36:33

lose the liberal Zionist. Yeah,

36:36

yes. They'll be at

36:38

sea in a Republican coalition. Like,

36:42

you see some of

36:44

the leading figures in the APAC are

36:47

comfortable, and Shel Maddelson is comfortable on

36:49

the right. The ones who have kind

36:52

of drifted right along with Israel's broad

36:54

politics over the last 20 years

36:57

have gotten increasingly comfortable within

36:59

the Republican Party. But that's not, like

37:02

you said, that's not the super majority of

37:04

American Jewish voters who are still progressive

37:07

Democrats. Right.

37:10

The interesting dynamic is,

37:12

I mean, because Netanyahu

37:15

himself in Israel has made

37:17

political alliances

37:20

with some of the worst

37:23

right wing players in Europe over the

37:25

past decade and a half or so.

37:27

I mean, you know, Orban and

37:29

other and right wing groups.

37:31

And I think there was an Israeli. Putin.

37:35

Putin. There was

37:38

a right wing. Excuse me. There

37:40

was an Israeli, I want to

37:42

say, general, I cannot remember the

37:47

quote verbatim. But it was when he

37:49

was asked, like, you know, what about

37:51

aligning with all of these Christian nationalists,

37:55

you know, in America, their whole idea

37:57

is that, you know, two thirds of the

37:59

Jews go. up to hellfire,

38:02

only a third gets to sit on the

38:04

right-hand side of God. That's why

38:06

I'm just in case you're wondering, that's where

38:08

I'm going. But and

38:11

the the general's

38:13

perspective was basically like, well we'll

38:16

cross that bridge when we come to it. In

38:18

other words, we'll take the support

38:21

and if the rapture happens and we end up

38:23

going the wrong direction, all right, we'll deal with

38:25

it then. But... I

38:28

mean, isn't that how all of us think about it? I

38:31

mean, I have

38:33

eczema. I've talked about this many

38:36

times and so hellfire is just...

38:38

I get like that type of heat.

38:41

It's just not good for my skin. Dry

38:43

heat, dry heat. Yeah, I've made it clear.

38:45

I want to sit on the

38:48

right-hand side of God. But the

38:50

interesting thing is that in

38:52

this country, once

38:54

you get outside of the goofy bubble,

38:57

as it were, and we're

38:59

starting to see... I mean, from our advantage,

39:01

we see it play out with like the

39:03

Daily Wire and Charlie Kirk

39:07

and Steven Crowder and

39:10

Tucker Carlson. We

39:12

see these through a media lens, but

39:15

you can see it really

39:17

is a tough balancing act to

39:19

maintain. Because

39:23

in moments like this, because

39:25

there is anti-Semitism there and it

39:32

makes it much harder for them to

39:34

sort of maintain the constituencies that they

39:36

want to maintain in this

39:39

country. So I

39:42

guess it remains to be seen. But

39:44

how much... Now at this point, when you've

39:46

got like Israeli officials, you know,

39:49

now charging that Joe Biden is

39:51

a Hamas lover, does

39:53

he fully cut bait politically?

39:56

I mean, or let me ask you this. Do

39:58

you think this move... is

40:01

because he is aware and he's

40:03

been getting pressure from Democratic lawmakers

40:06

and is aware, you know, whether it's the

40:08

student protests or whether it's just a broad

40:10

sentiment or what? Well,

40:14

you see, you did see Kirby, you know, sort

40:17

of trying to walk back what Biden was saying.

40:20

So, you know, continuing to muddle

40:22

it. But Biden, you know,

40:26

certainly has in

40:28

the past, when he was vice president, he

40:30

was always talking about foreign policy in terms

40:32

of its effect on domestic

40:35

politics. There

40:37

does feel like there's a bit of an Israel exception

40:39

to that, where he has been

40:41

such a committed ideologue. My

40:44

sense is that what he's

40:46

hearing from his intelligence

40:48

and military advisors is

40:51

just how pataclysmic

40:55

a full-on invasion of Rafa would be.

40:59

And he just can't

41:02

imagine kind of allowing that

41:04

to happen. And, Ryan,

41:07

could you elaborate on that point

41:09

a little? Because I find it interesting

41:11

that Burns and the CIA have been

41:13

leading these negotiations with

41:16

the Hamas intermediaries. And

41:18

I think we've talked about this potential

41:20

break with the people that are invested,

41:23

like, you know, how Lloyd Austin sounded

41:25

different than Blinken or Biden. The

41:29

defense, the

41:31

people who are mostly invested in

41:33

maintaining American hegemony and legitimacy

41:36

in the region are not going to

41:38

be on the same page as Biden

41:40

right now, because we're at a point

41:42

where this is an immense threat to

41:44

American hegemony, this continued unconditional support for

41:46

Israel. Do you see

41:49

that shift beginning to happen because

41:51

of Burns' involvement in the negotiations

41:53

versus Biden and the

41:55

Blinken-led State Department? Yeah,

41:58

it is interesting that, you know, Burns

42:00

and Austin represent the factions of the government

42:02

that have to deal more

42:04

closely with reality. They're

42:06

on the ground. And

42:09

the State Department and the President

42:11

and others can deal more in the realm

42:13

of big thoughts and

42:15

propaganda and hopes and dreams

42:18

and can continue talking about

42:20

normalizing things and we're making

42:22

progress. They've got concerns and

42:24

thoughts. And it's been

42:26

interesting. There hasn't been much reporting in the

42:28

U.S. about Burns' role over there, but the

42:31

Mideast Press has been very clear that Burns

42:33

is the CIA director who's been playing

42:35

this really leading role in the negotiations. Reporting

42:39

there says that Burns himself

42:41

signed off on the

42:45

ceasefire deal that Hamas accepted. And

42:48

it was tweaked from what Israel

42:51

has originally put forward

42:53

and people have focused on those tweaks. But

42:56

after Hamas tweaked it, Burns and Egypt

42:59

and Connor and everybody else are like, okay, this is close

43:01

enough. We can work with this. But

43:05

then there was no

43:07

diplomatic pressure put on Israel

43:10

to accept the deal. It was just

43:12

they walked away from it and the

43:14

State Department and Biden just kind of threw

43:17

their hands up and said, that's a shame, but

43:20

they better not go into Rafa. So you do

43:22

have this split going on. And

43:25

it did seem like Burns kind of got thrown

43:28

overboard in those talks because there

43:30

was a world in

43:32

which Biden and Blinken could

43:34

have leaned much more heavily and said, no,

43:36

no, this is the deal. We're

43:39

done. This is over. We approved

43:41

this and then Hamas accepted it. And

43:44

now you're going to accept it.

43:47

The United States has that power to

43:50

do that. It was a decision on

43:53

their part not to use

43:55

it. And

43:58

the payback they'll get from that

44:00

is Netanyahu continuing

44:02

to ignore Biden and saying he's going to go and

44:04

do this anyway. It sounds like there's just utterly

44:07

relentless bombing of Rafa

44:10

ongoing. But at the same time, this

44:13

is something that Burns knows as

44:16

well. The IDF is suffering just

44:18

extraordinary losses this

44:21

morning and yesterday. Going

44:24

into these more densely populated

44:27

areas is not just going to

44:30

lead to enormous casualties

44:32

among Palestinian civilians. But

44:34

it pushes a lot of these IDF

44:37

soldiers into death traps. And

44:39

Biden is aware of that. Netanyahu

44:41

must be aware of it, unless he's just

44:43

completely blinded at

44:45

this point by his political

44:48

trap that he's got himself stuck

44:51

in with the corruption charges and everything else. But

44:55

yeah, I think reality is really

44:57

pushing back against what

45:00

Netanyahu is trying to do here. You

45:03

get the sense that Burns

45:05

and, you know, I can't

45:09

believe like on some level, you know, like the the

45:13

most sincere seeker of peace

45:15

in this is the CIA

45:17

chief. But you get the sense

45:19

that Burns

45:21

is like, this is this

45:24

has been a complete farce from day one. Like,

45:27

I mean, I think like, you know, I

45:29

think he probably realizes like there was never

45:31

a deal ever that was ever

45:33

going to be made. All of this was

45:37

was sort of preordained

45:39

and they've been

45:41

relying on on the chance that maybe they

45:44

could just demand too much of

45:46

Hamas. And, you

45:50

know, there's still no reason to believe that

45:53

Israel is going to be as, you

45:55

know, going to eliminate Hamas,

45:58

regardless of they could. flatten

46:00

Rafa. They're not going to eliminate

46:03

Hamas. And so

46:05

it's just a question of how much

46:08

they're going to inflict. The other thing that I

46:10

think is like, you know, we don't have

46:13

great reporting on this. But

46:17

there's, and we're going to

46:19

speak to someone who has

46:21

family in Gaza on Tuesday,

46:24

who's been getting regular updates from there.

46:26

But starting here,

46:28

like the in this

46:30

makes sense, the Israelis

46:32

control the Rafa border

46:34

crossing for

46:36

the first time. And

46:40

in this conflict, anyway, since they've, you

46:42

know, for the past 15 years, and

46:46

there's no reason to believe that they're letting in

46:48

fuel or water. The

46:52

UN says they're not. The UN has been

46:54

saying that there hasn't been any new aid

46:56

that's come through the Rafa crossing since Sunday,

46:59

and that the hospitals in Rafa now are

47:01

running out of fuel. And

47:03

if, you know, if the hospitals

47:05

are running out of fuel, then

47:09

there's no way to get water around

47:11

at this point, you

47:13

know, from aid trucks. And,

47:16

you know,

47:18

we're going to have a this is like, this

47:22

is like, you know, like

47:24

a Warsaw ghetto type of

47:26

situation, essentially, right? I mean,

47:28

you're, yeah, even the

47:31

State Department was saying, the thing the

47:33

last couple days that, you know, with

47:35

Karim Shalom also shut down, you know, they

47:37

reopened it, but didn't actually move anything through.

47:41

So what does reopening really mean there?

47:44

Without fuel, all the aid,

47:46

any aid that can

47:48

get in, as even Matt Miller State

47:50

Department pointed out, it can't be distributed.

47:53

You can't get it to people. And

47:57

this idea that they're going to move people.

48:00

people as well, you know, they, 100,000 people,

48:02

they've only moved this like rubble

48:04

strewn area that has,

48:06

you know, no bathrooms, no,

48:10

nowhere to eat,

48:12

no, no, no access to drinking water.

48:15

No, nothing. Just like, oh, here's an area, go here.

48:19

And there are some tents there. Also,

48:21

how do you get there? We

48:25

got a report from that family that, you

48:27

know, we've been in touch with in Gaza

48:29

three days ago that they wanted

48:32

to leave Rafa, but they have no fuel.

48:36

There's no mechanism in which for them to

48:38

go anywhere. Right. Right.

48:41

They just want like people

48:43

to walk like they did from Gaza

48:45

City to Khan Yunus. Yep. Like

48:48

these many mile long walks. Right.

48:51

I mean, this is, they, those

48:54

images of people at the

48:56

beginning of this walking down on foot

48:58

by the thousands, I mean, remain in

49:00

my mind as like, we're talking about

49:02

the second Nakba, but it's more than that,

49:05

as you're saying. I mean, like,

49:07

what do you think we're

49:09

talking about here? I

49:11

in terms of death tolls, Ryan, like

49:13

I'm, you know, I saw,

49:15

I think it was maybe not Kirby, the

49:17

other Matt Miller was saying, you know, that

49:20

the rate of death has decreased at

49:22

this latest press conference and they've

49:24

been taking more precautions. My

49:27

sense is, and I can't stop making this

49:29

point because it just puts a pit in my

49:31

stomach that when we, we find out

49:33

the true death tolls, it's going to be

49:35

staggering. Right

49:38

because if you

49:41

think about everyone

49:43

that you know in your life and

49:46

you know, we're and we're on the younger

49:48

side still, Sam and I, not so much, but

49:51

you are. But think about your older, older

49:53

relatives and even the ones our age, you know, you think

49:55

of people who are, who

49:58

are not perfectly healthy. who

50:01

have some precondition or other, some

50:03

disease they're dealing with, whether it's something

50:06

totally manageable like diabetes or

50:09

something treatable like

50:12

we were talking to some oncologists recently

50:14

or, you know, not

50:18

talking to a friend who just recovered from cancer recently, but only

50:20

because he was able to get treatment. And

50:23

so you stack on top of it. If you think about

50:25

all the people in your life and you ask

50:27

yourself how many of those would be

50:29

able to survive basically living outdoors

50:32

with like one to three liters of water

50:34

a day for all uses, you

50:37

know, drinking, hygiene, cooking, eating

50:43

nothing but a little bit of rice

50:45

or bread that you can get your hands on. You

50:48

know, how long would those people be able to survive? A lot

50:50

of people that I know in my life would not make it.

50:54

And so I think to your point, lots

50:57

of people are dying that way. And

51:01

we'll find out it died that way through

51:04

disease malnutrition rather than

51:06

underneath rubble. But

51:09

even that, of course many times with that too.

51:12

Right, even that, I mean, there

51:15

will be continued effects, but even that, I

51:17

think like with the discovery of these mass

51:19

graves, the 35,000 death toll is just

51:21

the people they've been able to

51:23

identify as the dead basically. Right,

51:25

right. I

51:28

just wanna turn to some

51:30

of the politics around this. You said

51:33

that the APAC world is freaking

51:35

out a little bit because they worry

51:37

that Biden has

51:39

crossed some threshold where

51:42

the idea of holding Israel to account, regardless of

51:44

the fact that it's 11th hour and

51:48

may not have any direct implications

51:50

on Israel's ability at least to

51:52

create more

51:55

death and destruction in Rafa, but just to

51:57

sort of the act of it sets up.

52:00

precedent. Obama

52:02

had done that a little

52:05

bit, but not as sort

52:07

of like publicly and I

52:09

think as, as, you know, there

52:12

wasn't as much scrutiny as going on at

52:14

that time. Does

52:16

that change their plan, APACS?

52:19

Do you think in

52:22

their targeting people like Bowman

52:24

and Cori Bush, I mean, they're

52:27

going to target some of these

52:29

justice Democrats. Do you

52:31

think it changes their plan or does it

52:33

make it more, they meant them more determined

52:35

to show that they can take some people

52:37

out? I

52:40

think it makes them more determined. I think you're

52:42

going to see my colleague, Gekhael Lacy, at

52:44

a piece saying that APACS is looking to spending 20 to

52:46

25 million against Bowman because

52:48

it's a really expensive media market.

52:51

And it's going to go hard

52:53

again. And, and they're all out. It's one of

52:55

the only races where they're,

52:58

they're okay. They're fine to make it about like

53:00

every other race. They pretend

53:02

it's about something else. This one, you know,

53:05

they're going to hit them on everything. They're going to hit them

53:07

on fire alarm and 9 11 stuff. But

53:10

they're also openly going after him.

53:12

I've been doing reporting. I'll have another story

53:15

to help maybe within the

53:17

hour about this Portland congressional

53:19

race. I don't know if you followed

53:21

this. Carmilla Jayapal sister, Multnomah

53:23

County commissioner, Sushila Jayapal,

53:27

was the front, was the front-runner for most

53:29

of this race to replace Earl

53:31

Blumenauer and it's Portland. So you can't

53:33

really come in, you know, with APAC

53:37

dropping millions of dollars against

53:39

somebody and for another candidate. So

53:42

last week I reported that they

53:44

were funneling their money

53:46

kind of through this

53:48

3, 3 14 action, which

53:51

is a super PAC that has been set

53:53

up over the last several years to support

53:55

scientists running for office and to support a

53:57

pro science agenda. But it was

53:59

actually, APAC money that

54:01

was flowing into this super PAC. And then

54:03

there was another one set up called Americans

54:06

for Responsive Government. And they just, they

54:08

popped it up on April 1st, which

54:11

is the day after the filing deadline

54:13

ends. And so they

54:15

don't have to disclose donors until

54:17

May 20th. And the election

54:20

is on May 21st. And they're with mail-in voting,

54:22

you know, most people will already have voted by

54:24

then. The new circle I

54:26

have out today is I talked with somebody who

54:28

works for 314 Action, who

54:30

straight up confirmed, yes, we did

54:32

this through APAC. And

54:36

we're going to be going after Bush, Cori

54:39

Bush pretty soon, but they're going

54:41

to set up a slightly different super PAC

54:43

there to go after Bush now that there's

54:46

more heat on them. This

54:48

morning, I got an APAC donor on the

54:50

phone because the

54:52

candidate herself had to release

54:54

this 48-hour report that showed

54:56

she had a massive fundraiser

55:00

on Tuesday with like 80 people

55:02

that gave, and almost all of them, you know,

55:05

if you search their history, they gave to APAC

55:07

as well. So it is an APAC fundraiser. I

55:10

called this woman up who gave

55:12

$3,300 the max amount on Tuesday. I

55:16

said, were you at this fundraiser? She's

55:18

like, no, I wasn't at

55:20

the fundraiser. I didn't, I

55:22

don't know who you're talking about. I didn't get to

55:24

this woman. I was like, well, you're listed in FPC

55:26

is, you know, giving her a maximum contribution. And she's

55:28

like, Oh, well, I give all my money through APAC.

55:30

You know, whatever APAC tells me to

55:32

do, I just give them, I just, I just max

55:35

out to them. This,

55:37

this, this progressive Democrats

55:39

ability to deny that she's

55:41

getting APAC port is over, but

55:46

she's got millions of dollars coming in at the very

55:48

last minute. And so it may be too late and

55:51

it may be too late for voters to

55:53

find out. And so,

55:55

you know, she may, you know,

55:58

have pulled it off, you know, by, by way of. until

56:00

the very end. This is

56:02

Jaya Paul's opponent. The point of money to

56:04

come in. Right,

56:06

right. And so, and then from

56:08

what I'm hearing, like the main reason

56:10

they're going after her is that she's Jaya

56:12

Paul's sister. Like it's

56:15

partly, it's personal in a lot

56:17

of ways. Like APEC really

56:19

hates Pramila Jayapal, you

56:22

know, because she can't really be marginalized like

56:24

some of the squad members. Right. And

56:27

she's chair of the Progressive Caucus, which can

56:29

wield significant power

56:31

that in some ways is more

56:34

dangerous to them. I

56:37

mean, it really does making, you

56:40

know, sort of defending these candidates

56:42

to the extent that they can

56:44

be defended that much more important

56:46

because the best way, you know,

56:50

APEC's never going to run out of money,

56:52

but it's going to be a little bit

56:54

harder if they, you know, go back to

56:56

these donors and say, yeah, we were O

56:58

for four, you know, or whatever it is,

57:00

or O for five or O for six.

57:04

You know, they may, you know,

57:06

and they may see a, you

57:08

know, they need to deploy this

57:10

more like on a different,

57:13

in a different way if both,

57:15

you know, if Biden, which is really

57:17

sort of like the palace, right? I mean, I'm

57:20

sure you have people who are a little bit more APAC-y

57:24

in Congress, but it's

57:27

interesting. It'll be interesting to

57:30

see if this happens. And, you know, folks,

57:33

if you're in Portland, obviously, you know,

57:35

talk to your friends. The primaries,

57:39

particularly this go around

57:41

because there's no presidential

57:44

candidate on the ballot are

57:47

going to be won by a small amount of people.

57:51

Lastly, how

57:53

much do you think this is, this

57:57

is hurting Biden?

58:00

in either direction politically, because, you know,

58:02

I'm looking at like there was a

58:04

rash of polls that came out last

58:06

week. That

58:09

say Young

58:11

people are upset with Biden, but it's

58:13

not Necessarily what they're gonna vote

58:15

on on a in a broad

58:17

sense And I think you know, my my

58:20

sense is is that the

58:22

Biden people are looking at

58:25

The the demographics and

58:28

feel they can lose more young people than they

58:30

did in 2020 Only because the

58:32

raw number of those young people is

58:34

so huge And so, you

58:37

know if they won 65 35

58:40

percent last time they can afford

58:42

in their mind to lose I don't know.

58:44

I mean to win 5743

58:47

just because of how many numbers there are

58:49

and you know, we are in a Um

58:53

This the first general election that is going

58:55

to be post Sort of like uh,

58:57

the vast majority of deaths of covid

58:59

we still have people dying Uh,

59:02

and presumably, you know statistically

59:04

speaking they're more trump voters than

59:06

than biden voters. Um But

59:09

do you think that a there's

59:12

a first order problem for biden

59:14

with this and b my theory

59:16

has been that activists

59:21

Tend to be the most sensitive to this

59:24

issue because they follow the news the most

59:27

And instead of doing go out to get out

59:29

the vote for biden They're

59:31

like less than enthused because they're in

59:33

this sort of like, you know moral

59:35

quandary That

59:38

is the big problem because the

59:40

way that Uh,

59:42

trump was beaten in 2018 and and 2020 Um

59:47

and 2022 after you know, roe v wade

59:50

was from an enormous amount of

59:52

enthusiasm kind of against him Uh,

59:56

if that if that is dampened by

59:58

this then that that happens has a disproportionate impact.

1:00:01

Like you said, those are the people that are talking to their

1:00:04

social circle, those are the people that are knocking on doors, making

1:00:06

phone calls. We'll find out

1:00:08

how much any of that matters. 2020

1:00:12

was an interesting test case in the

1:00:14

sense that Democrats basically did

1:00:16

zero door knocking because

1:00:18

they were still masking

1:00:22

and social distancing in

1:00:24

November, 2020, whereas Republicans had abandoned that.

1:00:26

And so they were door knocking and

1:00:28

canvassing doing all that and

1:00:30

it probably made it closer.

1:00:32

Like the science do suggest there was some, there

1:00:35

was definitely some marginal change as a result of

1:00:37

that. So

1:00:39

we might just have the same thing. Any

1:00:41

door knockers, groups are saying

1:00:44

that they have to, they're paying a lot more

1:00:46

to hire people to

1:00:48

door knock and canvass than they were in the past, which

1:00:51

means you can do less of it for the money that

1:00:53

you've got. But

1:00:57

people really don't like Trump. So

1:01:02

that is what Democrats

1:01:04

are banking on and it may

1:01:07

end up being enough. It's

1:01:10

hard to say. Yeah, it's

1:01:13

hard to say, but I mean, I think it

1:01:15

is pretty clear, I think

1:01:18

that there is, to

1:01:22

the extent that there are, the

1:01:24

first order votes are, as

1:01:27

to what's going on is not as much of

1:01:29

an issue as the sort of the second order

1:01:32

problem that they are

1:01:34

the activists. And just

1:01:36

also it's stepping on other stories,

1:01:38

right? Like, I've made this point

1:01:40

over and over again about the

1:01:42

pause on the liquid natural gas

1:01:44

export facilities. One of the biggest climate

1:01:48

successes that I

1:01:51

think we've ever seen in some respects in

1:01:53

terms of like one thing. And

1:01:55

it didn't get much play because

1:01:57

the people who would otherwise be

1:01:59

excited about it and talk about it and

1:02:02

be promoting and trying to

1:02:05

reward Biden because of it,

1:02:07

or having to see

1:02:10

the US support, genocide,

1:02:13

ethnic cleansing, whatever it is you want

1:02:15

to call it, doesn't matter, the killing

1:02:17

of tens of thousands. I

1:02:20

don't know how you- It

1:02:24

really does make it hard to celebrate stuff,

1:02:26

yeah, for sure. And you've got lots of good student

1:02:29

loan stuff that they keep rolling out. Yep.

1:02:32

They reschedule marijuana, but

1:02:34

nobody wants- Well,

1:02:36

we were on- Jared. We were

1:02:38

on track to talk about is Biden, you know, like

1:02:41

I was born in 1994, right? Is Biden the

1:02:44

best president of my lifetime was

1:02:46

the conversation that was happening prior

1:02:49

to October 7th because he's withdrawn

1:02:51

from Afghanistan, because of Lena Khan,

1:02:53

the antitrust, because of the student

1:02:55

debt cancellation efforts. What have you,

1:02:58

right? I mean, it's

1:03:00

hard to imagine a Democratic president

1:03:02

handling this worse. Actually, my fiance asked

1:03:04

me this the other night. He said, do

1:03:07

you think Bill Clinton would have been worse? And

1:03:09

I'm like, I don't think so. I

1:03:11

know Obama wouldn't have been worse, but

1:03:13

like this literally, he's arguably

1:03:16

the worst suited president for

1:03:18

this particular moment because to

1:03:20

be honest, he has a very hard time

1:03:23

acknowledging his deceded Islamophobia

1:03:25

and like these kind of

1:03:27

recalcitrant racist attitudes. You see a lot

1:03:30

of boomers have when it comes to

1:03:32

Israel, but Biden is just, I mean,

1:03:34

we know he's ideological. It's just, you

1:03:36

know, it's also seems like

1:03:39

a political miscalculation to me, but it's hard to

1:03:41

say. Yeah.

1:03:43

Yeah. The gold of my air conversation is

1:03:47

still fresh in his mind. Right. Yes.

1:03:51

That she really made her then. Pressure than

1:03:53

anything that happened the last year. Undoubtedly.

1:03:57

That's the way it works. Believe me. getting

1:04:00

to that age and I

1:04:03

can't remember what happened earlier this

1:04:05

week but I do

1:04:07

remember my favorite sled I had as

1:04:09

a child. Ryan

1:04:12

Grim, it was red. Ryan Grim, it was

1:04:22

actually it had the runners you know

1:04:24

I mean it's like

1:04:26

the one sounds like it's out

1:04:28

of Rosebud. It was called Rosebud,

1:04:31

yeah. Ryan Grim, always a pleasure.

1:04:33

Thank you for

1:04:35

taking a break from your learning

1:04:37

annex class. I know you're taking

1:04:39

this one on how to operate

1:04:41

computers, these newfangled

1:04:43

computers and so I really appreciate your taking

1:04:46

the time to talk to us. My

1:04:50

pleasure, always. Alright, see

1:04:52

you Ryan. Bye. Alright

1:04:54

folks, I think that

1:04:57

does it for us. Here's

1:04:59

a lawful waffle on the IM. Sam, please

1:05:01

don't dismiss the importance of using the terms

1:05:03

genocide and ethnic cleansing. This is really important

1:05:06

to Emma and Matt for you guys to

1:05:08

be the number one anti-Israel channel on YouTube.

1:05:10

Please consider their careers here. You

1:05:12

know the idea that it is helpful,

1:05:15

that it's helpful

1:05:23

to our careers to

1:05:25

do this is rather blinkered.

1:05:28

I mean it just is. They're

1:05:31

literally people who are getting blacklisted

1:05:33

from jobs now for protesting

1:05:36

for Palestinians. I mean

1:05:38

I don't you know that's not

1:05:40

it's that's frankly more of a

1:05:42

concern for you know Emma and

1:05:44

Matt. They're young people. I you

1:05:46

know I'm sailing into the sunset.

1:05:48

I'm sunsetting these days but the

1:05:51

point is just like it's not

1:05:53

good for numbers if

1:05:56

you want to compare you know

1:05:59

channels that avoid this topic

1:06:01

or talk about it in other ways.

1:06:03

You want to talk about their numbers.

1:06:05

I mean, it's just absurd. You

1:06:08

can address the

1:06:12

merits of what we say and disagree. You

1:06:16

can defend the

1:06:19

killing. And more

1:06:21

often than not, that ends up being like a denial of,

1:06:27

well, the numbers are not real, or

1:06:29

nobody's starving, or it's fine, or it's

1:06:31

deserved. It's genocide denial. Or

1:06:35

it's not genocide

1:06:37

because people have babies,

1:06:39

and whatever it is. But

1:06:43

it's easily

1:06:47

demonstrable that

1:06:49

our coverage inhibits our

1:06:52

growth of our

1:06:54

channel, the membership. I

1:06:59

mean, that's just, I don't know what else to tell

1:07:01

you. I'm going to be real here. Denying

1:07:03

it's genocide at this moment, is

1:07:06

it just because it's happening in the present that

1:07:08

it doesn't get the same

1:07:11

vitriol that it would be to be,

1:07:13

say, someone who denies the Armenian genocide,

1:07:16

or someone who denies the Holocaust,

1:07:18

or somebody who denies the genocide

1:07:20

of indigenous Americans and First Nation

1:07:22

people, or someone that denies the

1:07:24

genocide in Guatemala. Why is it

1:07:27

different? It's not. In fact, it's even

1:07:29

more urgent right now. But

1:07:33

there are a lot of career consequences for

1:07:35

people. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what

1:07:37

I'm setting myself up for. I'm kind of

1:07:39

set here. So regardless, the

1:07:42

comment, if you want to just talk about the merits of it,

1:07:45

that's fine with me. But the reason I think

1:07:47

it's important to say the word is

1:07:49

because the reason we have

1:07:52

these identifiers, and the reason we're supposedly

1:07:54

moving on, genocide's

1:07:57

the highest crime a state can commit, so

1:08:00

that we have a public education so we can stop

1:08:02

it in real time, as opposed to being able to

1:08:04

look back and be like, oh, I would have been

1:08:06

on the right side. So

1:08:08

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1:08:14

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I mean, interesting. I'm

1:09:27

intrigued by that game last night. Donovan Mitchell

1:09:29

went off. But yeah, I mean, on

1:09:31

Monday, we will be breaking down all

1:09:34

of the developments in the NBA and

1:09:36

NHL. I'm tired. Like,

1:09:38

I don't understand why they don't

1:09:40

do three, like, three day breaks

1:09:42

in between or two day breaks

1:09:44

between games. I had the

1:09:47

Rangers Sunday, the Knicks Monday, the Rangers

1:09:49

Tuesday, the Knicks Wednesday, the Rangers last

1:09:51

night. Like, I need a Mental

1:09:54

break from the anxiety. And Yet it's

1:09:56

not coming, although they're doing pretty well.

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So I Shouldn't complain. The way he

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did accomplish he has the answer. And

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man is not in today. So. Check

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out Left Reckoning I know that he spoke

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to was. About the and ba. On.

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Will take calls today. See.

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You. In the. Phone.

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Three months from now. Six months from now. Nine

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months from now and I don't think it's gonna

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be the same as it looks like in six

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months from now. and I don't know, should necessarily

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can be better six months from now than it

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is three months from now. But I think around

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eighteen months out, we're going to look back and

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go like wow, Most

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what is excellent own.

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a second. Hold on for all numbers of. Ammo!

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a hello. Everyone

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movie. Low

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history march I'm

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gonna go smell like. I'm gonna go smell

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like. Common sense says of

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course. Gobbledygook. We fucking nailed

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him. So, what's 79 plus 21? John,

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come here. I'm talking to you. I believe 96,

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for you. 34-hundred dollars. 19-hundred

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dollars. 5-4.

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3 trillion dollars. It's

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a zero-sum game. Actually, you're making a

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guess. But let me

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stay there. You call it satire.

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Them go to satire. On top

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of it all? My favorite part

1:12:37

about you is just like every day, all

1:12:39

day, like everything you do. I think we're

1:12:42

about to talk. Alright buddy.

1:12:45

Alright, folks.

1:12:48

Folks. Folks.

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It's just the weak team weeded out,

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obviously. Yeah. You got guns out.

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I don't know. But you should know. You

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just don't like to have any kind of deer in

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your car. I have a question. Who cares? Oh,

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my chair. Wow. I

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do love that. You

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gonna kill me? I'm losing it,

1:13:17

bro. Um,

1:13:21

where are you? You

1:13:23

guys reading? Just grow up. Oh,

1:13:29

Regent. Where are you? Love

1:13:33

you, bye. Love

1:13:35

you. Bye-bye.