In this episode, Bruce interviews his ex-colleague and amazing friend, Annie Ngu. Annie is the Lead Designer at EnergyX Solutions, but also a do-everything designer, marketer and businesswoman. She is a great writer and as this podcast learns, someone who is great at talking about the softer parts of working at a tech company. We start off by debating the Marketing Vs. UX debate, but quickly we spiral into a hilarious convo about the first time she thought she was interviewing for a UX job, but wasn't. Then, we talk about how startup benefit packages need to step up their game and have an open convo about mental health when you are somebody who hustles hard.

Learn more about what Annie does at: https://www.anniengu.com/ 

Learn more about the Women United Project: https://www.womenunitedproject.com/