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welcome to the marshall pruett podcast in

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your weekend, indycar guest episode

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who do we have a fine?

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son of canada? a

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a of the beautiful

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water are dirt,

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and just magic in the air of

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t r o n

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n o as we were just toronto

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or man dalton kellett dalton,

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welcome to show

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thank

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you for having me and i am coming to

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my hometown of toronto fearful

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media day three on the in the south

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before to be backyard a couple weeks yeah

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absolutely so happy to have that race back

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i don't remember my first year

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was another know eighty know ninety

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early nineties something like that in

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the light so yeah been going

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there forever love it my

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the dearest oldest forms michael

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cannon from the

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same area spent

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countless years working with him out here

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in the bay area in the he

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always referred to toronto

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is serve a clean san francisco

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so a very diverse

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area lots of great

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people food culture music

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you name it but just much

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cleaner sell it

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on yeah but what is not as good right

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like it's the bay area to argue

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yeah yeah i b lox her

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we we pay we certainly pay

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for the quality of of the

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the conditions that we live in here but tough

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who's complaining let's say a very

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quick thank you there's always to

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cooper tires have supported us dalton sense

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second year the podcast so i took five

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years now the dear friends

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of the justice brothers in then also

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pour in manufacturers

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of fine motor racing memorabilia

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hats t shirts a all kinds

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of fun stuff that we do with good

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old derek costco there at toronto

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motor sports dot com so don't normally

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that out a call get some

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listener and and

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fan

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una going and will but a short

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time short opportunity for us to record

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this heading out on vacation here shortly

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so the you'd want you and i

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the had a chat about life the universe

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the and everything and figure

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i'd love to start about where you are

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at mentally the

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end goal wise in

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your indycar career the

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reach in the halfway point of the season and a crossover

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technically halfway through sundays race

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it mid ohio has

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not been an easy

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year for you results wise

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at least in the races this is not

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been easy year for you

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what if we look at your pace and

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i did spend some time going back going through

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there was dalton in qualifying

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at st pete last year versus

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this year where was he here

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ah now at this whichever event

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versus the year before there's

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definite gains that can be found the

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results haven't necessarily been waiting

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for you at the checkered

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flag for the majority the season about

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that talk about where your head that and

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how you i would have to imagine

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keep yourself steel in

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the positive place

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it's a good it's a great question i think

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it up if you want to be professional

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athlete or a you know talk local

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performer in any field re really i think

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one , the most important qualities is

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a certain amount of grant right and

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as sentinels ability to keep

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my back one they might not be going

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as expected very few of us go thera korea's

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was in decline of story

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the progression of someone like a cop

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her quite right that has a ,

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success that we can we got and even

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for com there's gonna be moments

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where it's worst stuff and you you

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you have to dig deep sigh think from that

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perspective my the

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mental state right

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now is is is religious focusing on

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really what i can do and what i can control

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the be better i think guess the results

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have been what we would have liked

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and it's your quite the of they haven't

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been waiting for us in an endless series

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it doesn't really i have argued you have to go

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out and fight , that

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the the the that you

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want i think from my

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perspective think from happy with where

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i am vs last year and a diverse

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twice hornets i feel like guess that the has been a good

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progression that

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like see that consistency and

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that of finishing off the races a little

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bit better but sort of

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my goals i goals i really like you

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know a big old is your would be to a

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break the under that second group and any qualified

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a week the here we're of cyrillic posted at

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st pete and i think there's

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think there's there it's a scout master

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hit the nail on the hadn't the

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that every perfectly because it's it's an

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adulterer recipe for a

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bad mental approach trying to be to to to

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perfectionist right but consistently

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, things better and that's

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that's that's worry about i feel like i've this

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year maybe had a bit of a shift from like try

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to focus too much on the on the results and

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like even the skyn the car yeah

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like not not thinking about the

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lab time as many been the carrot

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as much as like a maybe try

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to have your perspective be like that

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doing the craft wow that

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feel it in reward that you're going for

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not like safe in a lot time as

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think that's gonna help except for me i think that's

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really help me not get ahead of myself

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and they get in the past i've in they

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that a good laugh and know mad men made

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mistake whereas now i'm

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just trying to be relayed more in the moment and

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karma corner and tried to enjoy that so

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that's sort of my my overall would

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approach kind of of of rambling wire

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like wire said i would like i

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was finished better at the end the day and that's

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what work and force

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the wander around here to variety of

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things dalton this

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has been a year of high

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potential the

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aj foyt racing team potential

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being a very different

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creature then

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execution this is

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by no means meant to be a negative

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or are picking a weight team but whether

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it's been your entry kirkwood

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number fourteen car tatyana calderon

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number eleven car there's

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been a lot of potential shown the

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team's taken a shift upwards the

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competitiveness decent

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number of growing pains as well

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whether it's bodywork coming loose

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or this bolt not being put

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being this place or this thing coming

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loose a little bit

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does that affect you the

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you do those things resonate

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with you that boy we're we're

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growing right potential higher

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that we're still going through some growing

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pains the the

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the proverbial nut behind the wheel

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this is his own business the the

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the other nuts and bolts around you do

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any of the are just said some other

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kind of finger troubles that of in

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had any of that

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do you allow that to creep in or

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you the one pat on the team on the back

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saying hey they don't worry about

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it i will do better next time curious how

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that resonates with you because know for some drivers

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configure little bit

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for sure i'm a liberal definitely had our our

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share of unforced

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that's that we don't you know that really

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frankly outta with outta car that

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car that structure shouldn't be acceptable

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and and and and at an hour

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and we all know that right and is

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edited team sport

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at a team activity at the end of the days i think

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still the the

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internal colors atmosphere

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that we're all trying to get better and work

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harder for , perspectives

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yeah like this is obviously

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in the moment when something goes wrong you're

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frustrated by like st pete was

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we're on track for ferguson us

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us how to gearbox issue that took side of the race

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and he has like stuff like that

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if it's hard not to get mad but i'm

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i'm observing up applied to come back in like

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be screening people and then freaking out

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of that's very productive i

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prefer to add

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a dream big , that

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southern and to see a one is the root cause

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and let's try crates and procedures

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that of prevent that from happening again

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that was going to worry about i'd try

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to always be it and have a positive

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and an

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official the have member

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of our that saved one

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of the difficulties that difficulties think we have

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any that we've seen across maybe

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our product is that people

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are are defined it up for capsaicin

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of stuff and shortage like most

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the world as and when

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you when you're already a

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small team and year that i got just

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ask and it just makes it easy

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even even though you can identify okay this

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is what what what went wrong and say beach

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or somewhere else we've corrected

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that we're we're for sure that's not going to

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happen again it's it's the game

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of you capsaicin that consistently

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and as and part of that is religious trying

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to find at the

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right next of how many people you house

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and the talent within the with the team and and

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not something that you're is more letters or read

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this is gonna be worked on but

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it's just it's not easy to find people

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talk about the competitive side of

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things for you and your growth

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in maturation they're dalton

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so you spent the

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good old amount of time training

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learning and such on

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the road to indy the

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coming out of the road to indy had

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multiple years of indy lights pro

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mazda before that us fifty thousand

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and before that when i

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first met you i think it might have

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been pro mazda the issue

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and you're pro mazda era beginning of

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lights and such you're

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someone who is fully invested in

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trying to make yourself better

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and better and better where

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do you see yourself on this journey

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i know if we look at the results

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what might say well we're

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more or get in the most out of the

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added this guy's talent that can be gotten

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i wouldn't agree with that that

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i also don't know how much higher

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you think your ceiling is

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or growth in potential the

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not just lap time outright lap

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time and qualify that also

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say race pace right

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straight up in a couple of quick lapsed earnest

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and can you do that for fifty five laps

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seventy whatever the number he asks and have

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an even better average i

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know you don't wanna be ranked whatever you

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are twenty seventh and the championship

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right now where do you see

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that ceiling for you moving forward

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done

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a boy question answer

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me i think the there's

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been there certainly are something

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to the said about it

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the i'm working

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yeah i try to figure out the

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what about

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this

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the i'm trying to figure out

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in the car know what is the the

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optimum sort of thing that mean for me

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to thinking about as far as a beacon what i need

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to be key it off as

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a as i'm working through

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that process working am making games

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but yeah there's there's there's

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yeah adapted their that i'd

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like to overcome i don't really know where

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where the ceiling is that i

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can i prefer to look editors they

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can have real realistic trump's

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at a time but then he are you look at a

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weekend like safety are you going to happen on

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neither do quite well as i think i'm

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still working through that process would

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like to see the or if if i can

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break into that

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the

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fifteenth and around there the

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either let

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you in mid term goal kind of a first

12:54

step that would be i

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would be satisfied with what it's like

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like i said before i'm i'm trying to get upset the

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perspective to more about to to more just

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focusing more on the

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doing it and a while and

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going for my corner so try

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not to get too wrapped up results either

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in of the events

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no does the

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thing that i i

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should say anything there's more than one thing

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that i appreciate but appreciate about you don't forget

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the some those items here in a moment but the

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things that i appreciate about you it

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is the constant

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hunger to improve

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the end

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if we relate this to other drivers that you

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compete against an indycar you can

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point to the best of his generation

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scott dixon six time champion

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indy five hundred winner twenty

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plus years a chip ganassi racing you

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might wonder if he's running out of steam forty

13:51

one years old six in the championship

13:53

hey you nose is he on a decline

13:56

guess what this guy does wakes

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up early every day where's

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himself out in the gym looking

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through data meeting with his engineers

14:06

looking for any little thing as a guy has been

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doing this and has been at the peak forever

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there's no resting the

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laurels this is a guy wakes up

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everyday sing dammit the

14:17

final little something else to be better but

14:20

i've been doing that for twenty years i have probably

14:22

staff would just about all of it since

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i can't stop because if i do i

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never go backwards so

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even the best the name

14:30

all the other drivers at the front of the championship

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they were that same mindset newser

14:36

with folks calm that the

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even for you you're still very

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early in your indycar career rights not

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like you have three five

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full time seasons behind you this

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is a quest for you that's

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no different from addicts and or anyone

14:53

else trying to find those games with

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your right foot with your

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a with your mind with your

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hands folks about

15:02

that quest because it is a bit of a burning

15:05

thing no matter where you are

15:07

on the grid right

15:09

earlier and it's what drives and cited as

15:11

that's what keeps coming back i'd

15:14

on it as much as and i and i love

15:17

indy cars fan

15:20

side of the and interacting with people like

15:22

and get to meet new people and that's an amazing

15:25

part of oldest the like at the end of the day i

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always do this because i'd like to run

15:29

it and want to be better at this

15:32

and i'll get a success cause secondary is

15:34

it's imports very but the main

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driver really is working

15:39

and perfect perfect in a craft

15:41

and a riff on what you're talking about with scott

15:44

about be the work ethic and here

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with sky i we both trampettes

15:48

it i am in the

15:50

gym pretty much weekly and

15:52

then he was is if anyone thinks scott dixon

15:55

slowing down they are sorely mistaken

15:57

that guy that is the family said

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the family driven and you just have to be that

16:02

way and and being around those

16:04

guys has been a great example

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for me and something like cited they'll

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try to add into my life's and

16:11

my training and that they did in

16:14

the past wow admitted

16:16

that younger at odds

16:18

with younger and the passage of

16:20

, statements but they did a

16:22

bit less mature or developed as a

16:24

driver driver when it around

16:27

when i was going to school an engineer

16:29

and as the guy tried to over

16:32

complicate things too much in that time they didn't

16:35

didn't , the technique or the focus

16:37

on the right things to be like

16:40

really get in and into the weeds

16:42

and making that affect his and that's i think that's

16:45

made me overpaid things

16:47

and wasn't helpful site that offers

16:50

a bit of the of the air inside

16:52

of the right i try to try to the

16:54

data and like get really and and backs

16:56

i felt like understood it wasn't productive and

16:59

i usually go through a period where period

17:02

focused on yeah driver first

17:05

and then that engineer second ethic

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, there's not an older and i've cemented

17:10

some of the testes stuff i my business and i'm

17:12

gonna back at the point or i'm realize okay

17:15

to make these games now

17:17

is now it is the little things and

17:19

and the season especially i've really gotten

17:21

back to the when a lot

17:23

more like perhaps not more

17:25

prep work that morse more focused prep

17:27

work on the really small specific

17:30

things her an

17:32

epic that's better than better than that

17:34

of said this year

17:36

that's totally shift gears here the

17:39

outer space and them will come back correct

17:42

i appreciate the passion

17:46

that has come your way on

17:48

social media there

17:51

are more folks

17:53

who follow you or

17:55

interact with you know

17:57

that they can engage with you

17:59

on seemingly any topic

18:02

they in a number of your rivals

18:05

in your willingness the be

18:07

available who engage

18:10

i appreciate that dalton because

18:13

that is not something that every

18:15

driver is israeli fired up to do

18:18

are you catching hell here a couple of

18:20

days ago the

18:23

supreme court changes here

18:26

in the us on roe versus wade

18:29

the and there anybody right oh by the way

18:31

using dermot don't talk about politics

18:33

i just wanted a sports just

18:35

a little note

18:37

tax

18:38

the societal changes this is all of

18:40

us as people making decisions

18:43

so again not politics

18:45

society is

18:47

interesting to look at some of those exchanges

18:50

the where folks are telling you

18:52

you get the traditional idiotic steering your

18:54

lane showed or whatever then

18:57

you get the hey maple

19:00

, boy boy

19:02

, this the saints this country

19:05

a who cares what you think about

19:07

quote politics and to which i think he said

19:10

ah thanks i'm gonna be making

19:12

some american children here in the future

19:15

you know hopefully help you know rooted here

19:17

in america bomb the

19:19

want to fixate on on that but just

19:21

it to me was emblematic of i

19:24

respect that this isn't somebody

19:26

just wants to have happy cheery

19:29

guaranteed positive interactions

19:31

of hey i'm the giveaway some hero

19:33

cards or shirts or something to the first

19:35

whatever people respond and some of those

19:37

things we see a lot of the new share

19:39

some of the insights approach

19:41

wise may be dalton own turf big

19:43

truly active with folks knowing that

19:46

even some of those interactions might be

19:48

not the warmest a nice is that you receive

19:52

the thing i think you know and again

19:54

this kind of goes to that the topic of like how

19:56

my that's that needs

19:58

or yeah mattress about social media

20:01

and a fan interaction how

20:03

, that changes i could have gotten older and

20:05

and muttered and i think part of

20:07

what's happened is that you're a eat

20:10

you get older and you just stop worrying about

20:12

what people think as much the freezer

20:14

little bit of some doubts sars

20:16

wanted to put yourself out there and then then

20:19

second thing is that you know the

20:21

my first voice i

20:25

like to hang out with and be around

20:27

people that i can have held

20:29

conversations with and and talk about

20:31

difficult issues that we

20:33

may or may not agree

20:36

upon and try to learn

20:38

something from each other and and and that's when i cannot

20:40

expect the carpet ride it

20:43

metropolis and i declare

20:45

the point where i i

20:49

didn't like that that's

20:51

the person that i'm gonna be on social

20:53

media right and i

20:55

think a big problem that we have

20:58

within our society and

21:00

politics is that everly

21:02

for binary right and i just haven't same

21:04

polarization you're the one side

21:06

of the other and at a people

21:08

are like those guys

21:11

are really not well

21:13

i invest like the down actually

21:15

have these conversations that and everything just kind

21:17

of the all into like talking points

21:20

and and fiery statements

21:22

and like if i'm

21:24

achieving anything it's what i would like

21:27

to hey i

21:29

love public figure without a

21:31

small hole and the like a fall way

21:34

that is willing to engage with people on

21:36

topics have been may or may not agree upon

21:38

and hopefully foster

21:40

some like rational discussion that's

21:43

that's what i'm trying to do with stuff like

21:45

that when

21:47

someone says something truly stupid or a poor

21:49

and i made contact with like a funny

21:51

retard but for the most part of

21:53

i'll try to be pretty pretty respectful

21:58

and and you know that that's kind of why

22:00

i wanted to the more than a

22:02

big part of a to that you have

22:05

i think there's this perception that

22:07

that

22:08

your athletes are suppositories original

22:10

sought sugar and sport or

22:13

out asking muddled and and not

22:16

fair and controversial and controversial and that

22:18

and i'd i would

22:20

challenge that and say i think we're we're

22:22

caught a point where the

22:25

if it if you take the if you just look

22:27

outside a race and if you look at society as

22:29

at all pick people are expecting

22:31

a bit more honesty

22:34

from they're from the people

22:36

that made support and one it's companies

22:38

or or our athletes so the

22:42

the i'd i don't think there's as much

22:44

risk to do in animals had

22:46

a conversation the other might have them like op's

22:48

years ago and i think it's just a bit

22:50

just the right thing to do you like specifically for

22:52

me from this week it out

22:54

like you pointed out pointed am married american

22:57

girl the goals and american citizens

22:59

are kids well be brought

23:01

citizens and i will be or mess

23:04

to not fight for why building

23:06

event should be the fire

23:08

but i want them to grow up and now

23:10

lol i have the opportunity

23:13

the let me throw this back after the

23:16

when we had the i

23:19

don't even know what modifier

23:21

to put on this we had

23:23

the recent murders in

23:26

texas the

23:28

children in school you

23:31

were motivated to

23:33

ask in motivated

23:35

to train raise money

23:38

who contribute to just hell that

23:42

was amazing that i

23:45

don't claim to know you the

23:48

massively dalton but

23:51

i've always appreciated you for being a very

23:53

thoughtful person in a very genuine person

23:55

separate from being a race

23:57

car driver but that when i saw

23:59

that i didn't surprise

24:02

me that also just added

24:04

more levels of respect knowing that

24:07

you could have sent a tweet thoughts

24:10

and prayers and whatnot

24:12

yeah

24:13

stop there

24:14

you instead said you know what let's actually

24:17

trying to do something asked

24:20

the and you did raise some great money that the foyer

24:22

team matched and some

24:25

quality funds were sent to

24:27

try and help families affected by

24:30

this tragedy we're talking

24:32

about something like the

24:34

whether it's roe versus wade or otherwise

24:37

they're also a secondary component it

24:39

doesn't have to be again some major societal

24:42

issue it could be a flooding that happens or

24:44

ever a fire that burns down

24:46

something there are also a secondary

24:48

component for you your

24:50

family employees of

24:52

k wine and such is is there a culture

24:54

there that's with a new as well to do something

24:57

that is action based as well that

24:59

that's the thing i've been on

25:03

my own with my own brain i've

25:06

step back from do a lot of weighing

25:08

in on whatever on social media

25:10

because

25:12

pardon

25:13

your must give a shit there's

25:15

their yeah to me there's too much emphasis placed on

25:18

social media currency oh who

25:20

weighed in on this topic or whenever i didn't

25:23

well boy here just human

25:25

garbage and you go k me

25:27

using my two hundred eighty characters to go to

25:29

africa tap on social media not

25:31

change in a damn thing that's

25:33

where their faction component i always look

25:35

for there's is that something

25:38

deep with a new as well the the actual

25:41

action side of things to backup words

25:44

shared on social media

25:46

for sure and i think you know to your point

25:48

that's kind of the whole virtue signaling thing a and

25:51

there yeah i've been people that

25:54

the crowd at all it's is indycar seen on our

25:56

virtue signaling blah blah blah as like i can't

25:58

stand for to signal

25:59

that that

26:01

they'll a type it's a sin and can

26:03

have almost cowardly way just to show

26:05

that year ago added

26:07

that your it's it's the

26:10

least committed you can be to like find

26:12

a decent the right you're just showing that all i

26:14

support the letter going to socialize

26:17

years but at scared the

26:19

extent of it the

26:21

or the ivaldi situation murray raise

26:24

funds and they were donated that was

26:28

really not that came together quite

26:30

quickly and organically and was

26:32

really happy to see how that how

26:36

how fact that was at it it is something i

26:38

would like to do more of the

26:40

boy would obviously would like to ask raise money

26:42

for school , but when

26:45

there is some that i care about that is care minute is would lie

26:47

i do after

26:50

the actually departed is to your point just

26:52

we're much stuff then

26:55

the best way forward the

26:58

also i think there's i do

27:00

think as genuine value like

27:02

for instance and and been open

27:04

to talk about like support in indy

27:07

cars pride initiatives or it

27:12

in an era of the last week with robbie

27:14

way the i think there's there's

27:17

an outside perception that race and

27:19

is this kind of

27:23

well kept out of touch or

27:26

overly conservative you know atmos

27:28

like industry as a whole yeah

27:30

so i think there is the ,

27:33

specifically with pride right saying that like we

27:35

are as an industry industry

27:37

pride and the

27:39

be allies to that movement i to

27:41

that like there is tangible value and

27:44

athletes like myself saying hey or behind

27:46

us you know we have the

27:49

friends get gay coworkers at

27:51

etc like were you know be

27:53

opened a lot a their i think

27:55

there's value in stadium make that

27:57

you that uses for that because very sad news

28:00

now it's been so conservative right so

28:03

it's your kind of show and that and pages been sort of turned

28:07

that with the other issues as like

28:10

what i don't wanna do is do

28:14

you are a small fundraiser for

28:16

almost a different things right like i think if

28:18

you want to he makes affected

28:21

change on some had to take away

28:24

then to something and

28:26

i've been the of this year such they

28:28

would just he added episodes emphasis

28:31

on discussed news excuse i've i've been

28:34

working for my other they wanted to but i want to do

28:36

to actually the great

28:38

coming in an impactful

28:40

like it take action and

28:42

to be ours i'm just still figuring out what that

28:45

is that long term sense but yes i

28:47

do wanna see i have added

28:49

more been actually to call into this

28:52

you are one of few indycar

28:54

drivers that have come to

28:56

mind as someone were if

28:58

only anticipate whether

29:01

the next three months next year

29:03

and a half whatever the time is press

29:06

release on a foundation

29:08

being started to do something and

29:10

that to seems to fall into

29:12

your character and you in hopefully your

29:15

wife as well as does it

29:17

just seems to be something that is almost

29:19

inevitable because that's

29:21

who you are in ,

29:23

wanted a circle back here and start to wind

29:25

down dalton there

29:28

was an actual purpose for wanting

29:30

to the into rover in two

29:34

i guess we use social media the vehicle that's

29:36

your expression of yourself outside

29:39

of being a person who turned steering wheels

29:41

and flips , and he battles

29:43

and stance on far

29:47

that is the expression of you

29:49

as a full human being and

29:52

we historically

29:55

have not had that has been

29:57

very often in indycar

30:00

outside of the

30:03

championship contenders in

30:05

most celebrated drivers there's

30:08

usually five or six drivers et

30:10

or picked each year for indy cars

30:12

main marketing campaign sophie goto

30:14

the indycar dot com

30:16

and look in the front page you usually see

30:19

a , a new

30:21

garden heard a pato

30:23

and again maybe romagne and who

30:25

knows who else maybe elio but their

30:28

tend to be the the

30:30

most commonly seen and heard drivers

30:32

and therefore those are the ones who are most

30:35

often the conduit or they

30:37

are full lives there full thought and expression

30:40

not often that a a newer driver

30:43

like yourself who isn't yet among

30:45

those front running championship contenders

30:49

insert himself into that place the

30:51

and is then i think almost

30:54

universally welcomed

30:57

and thanked for saying hey i

31:00

don't like probably not gonna see on

31:02

the podium this weekend but you're

31:05

still wanting to engage

31:07

in lead us into your world

31:09

in shows that you're more than just that person

31:13

driving a race car i

31:15

want to commend you for that men because

31:18

not every driver would have the comforter

31:20

the balls to try and do that knowing

31:23

that some false could probably just dismiss

31:25

you and save get shut up do f

31:27

t ago after when you're first race then

31:30

open your mouth that's not what

31:32

you been doing and i appreciate you for

31:34

that not love the fact that whether it's the

31:37

video content the to do the

31:39

photography is we wouldn't had some

31:41

fun doing that suspend road america recently

31:44

your love of astronomy

31:46

and engineering

31:49

and so many other things we

31:51

don't often hear the

31:53

from drivers at this stage of your career

31:56

and yet you are the blast

31:58

full volume doing though and i

32:00

think folks really appreciate that can just

32:03

give a little bit insight about the

32:05

reception you've had from folks who are claiming

32:07

you and holding on to say they die

32:10

like we'd love this guy we get some from him

32:13

we don't get from anybody else the

32:15

me but that is that is really unique i mean

32:18

i've been absolutely floored by the

32:20

reception at some of the suffers had a and

32:23

the obviously there's like a hot button issues

32:25

that are just gonna get you know

32:27

gonna get shared and interact with because the the

32:29

content but the general

32:32

sort of putting

32:34

myself out there i've

32:37

been yelling at you as you

32:39

pointed at pointed at at i was like yeah

32:42

because you're kind of the condition to

32:44

think like a you don't deserve the interaction

32:46

or the in the fall and until the results

32:49

of our it's a bit of like impostor syndrome thing

32:51

going on of like so i deserve all this

32:53

like interaction that i'm getting but i

32:55

can just decided that like in with

32:57

the stem stuff on a talking during the

32:59

technical videos like hundred

33:02

gonna do that the of i wanna do it i think it's really

33:04

interesting and at the reception

33:06

is being bitten than been great

33:10

i think this this

33:12

year i've just got decided that sort

33:15

of be a bit more of gonna who

33:17

were actually i'm on social media

33:21

then i'm just happy that people are kind

33:23

of along for the ride having a good time and

33:25

yeah i've you may not be everyone's cup of tea

33:28

but if we if i could korea

33:30

law clearly on online at

33:32

it as a group of past people like engineering

33:35

unlike race cars and like added interesting

33:38

discussions about whatever than that

33:40

legal be ever it's it's a it's been a

33:42

cover satisfying this year's

33:45

been a much more satisfying use social media

33:47

that i think i've ever had so i

33:49

just really enjoyed it and i appreciate

33:52

the pamphlets in

33:54

engage some kind of gotten on board with

33:56

that i'm i'm very happy with the with

33:58

the recession

34:01

we close on this dalton so we are

34:04

getting into middle how this weekend the

34:07

second half of the season compared to the

34:09

first still rather amazing

34:11

to think that the lawn

34:14

from february to basically

34:16

the beginning of june the

34:18

end of june to knock out eight races

34:21

as felt to me it's like it's taking forever

34:23

and then our gonna motor through the final nine

34:26

in like three days ah his

34:28

can get quick rapid

34:30

, for the come fast yeah up

34:32

in a middle that i

34:34

know that you in the point team

34:37

or are going to be sitting down and talking about the

34:39

future the end or whether

34:42

you want to stay cetera et cetera

34:44

or whatever their plans might be a

34:46

for have are many cars next year the

34:49

you do what i do and sometimes

34:52

look through the rest of the paddock

34:55

i know how this i know that i

34:58

look at a at carpenter racing

35:00

a home coasts hollinger racing

35:02

and yet you know maybe a couple others and

35:04

se hoon the wonder

35:07

what dalton season would be like

35:09

with the team that's just little bit farther

35:11

up ah in the standings the

35:14

little bit more new fewer things

35:17

to work through to get to a

35:19

becoming their best selves the

35:22

you have those conversations to you years

35:24

at least mentally knock on dale coins

35:27

door and say though are

35:29

there any options for the future or the

35:32

you guy that says you know what i want to continue

35:34

with aj foyt racing

35:37

this is a place for me

35:41

i think for me you know i feed the ideal

35:43

scenario how i would like to see a play

35:45

out would be the be back

35:47

in the for car and help

35:50

that team get further along i

35:52

think that would be really gratifying and he

35:55

had to feel like i had a small part and in

35:58

contribute to their success with what

36:00

would be the best case of but

36:03

at the end of the yes it is about from

36:05

my perspective i am they are primarily

36:07

focused on my career if

36:09

there if there are

36:11

if there's a better opportunity that

36:13

might be something i would consider but

36:16

emotionally,

36:19

i would like to see

36:21

continued progression

36:25

of involvement with the, with fight

36:27

the hopefully

36:30

you have a good weekend here

36:32

brother, after a little bit of a and

36:35

look forward to seeing you soon thank

36:38

you for the forward to it