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Okay. Cool. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. So we shall go on.
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We'll go over to Hey. How's it going?
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Good. Good. Good to see you. Good to see you
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too. Alright. So what is your outcome? My
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outcome, I feel, is forgiveness, and
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it's self forgiveness. And I'm frustrated
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because I'm doing all this work, but I still
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feel really Stuck in letting
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go of pain that I feel I've
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caused other people in my life. Sure. So what would
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have to happen for you to forgive yourself? That's where I seem to be stuck.
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I can give you the answer. Please do. You have to give up
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your pride. That's a big one. What if not ever even thought of that?
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People who don't forgive think that
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pride is more valuable than forgiveness, and
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it makes sense because when we don't forgive,
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we think use usually, there's 2 reasons why people don't forgive. Usually, they think
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if I forgive someone, then I justify what what they've done to
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me. Like, it's like I'm allowed I'm I'm I'm saying that's okay.
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Or the other fear is not just am I
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justifying what the other person's done to me? But god will send me something worse,
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and more pain will come. So I like the devil that I know
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versus the devil I don't know. And that's all about pride. Because
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there's a level of pride that says I mean, what is pride? Right? Pride is
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not just necessarily just, like, pride in winning a gold medal for your
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country. That's not that's like a that's a higher calling of pride. This is
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like, I have to be right, or I will die. Send For
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me from email, it makes sense. Yeah. It makes sense for me,
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though. I feel like I'm I find it easier to
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forgive Others. Like,
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I I'm able to do that. I'm able to forgive
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others, but it's myself That I'm
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stuck on. Right. Well, then if you can't forgive yourself, you haven't forgiven
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others. Okay. Wow. It's
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like that that's
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Oops. Sorry. The dog agrees, by the way.
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That's that that just really surprises me because I really feel
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like I've I've done that work, and And I got to that place,
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but obviously That's like saying that's like saying, I worked out for 2
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weeks, and I got some exercise in, and,
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I haven't lost all the weight. You know what I mean? Like Yeah. Like, is
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there there's this idea that, like, I did it. It's like, no. This is your
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work. It's something that you live with. It's like a
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it's a trauma. A trauma is like a a wound that you live with,
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and it gets better and better and better, and ultimately, it becomes a teach her.
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Ultimately, it's like a pearl. Like, a pearl starts out as a,
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as a wound to the oyster. Mhmm. And it becomes something
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beautiful over time. Right? So, like, this is a wound that can turn to, like,
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a pearl within you, but you have to be willing to give up the pride
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that says, I have to be right here, which is
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and what what you wanna be right about, like the pattern wants to be right
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about is how shitty of a person you are.
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So if you're willing to give up the idea that you're a bad person and
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that you actually are a good person, then we can start to address the guilt
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and the shame is underlying that. And no amount of
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watching videos is gonna help you do that if you won't admit to yourself
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you actually are a good person, and you did the best you could from your
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perspective, and so did they. And ultimately, what you're really
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resisting is the sadness associate it with
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the guilt of what you think you did.
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Did we lose you? No. No. You
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just hit it. What
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is so fucked up that you did so bad?
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Oh, there's a few things. Nothing is unforgivable.
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I I believe that,
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but I just With all the work that
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I've done, it just seems like I keep coming back to,
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Almost hurting myself By not
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moving forward, and I feel it's because
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I like you said, I,
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Maybe I'm not convinced that I'm a good person.
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That's where guilt comes from. Guilt guilt is I did something wrong.
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Yeah. I'm guilty. And then shame is, because I did something wrong, I'm a
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bad person. Uh-huh. When you look at, like, the
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emotional scale, Shame is like the 2nd
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to, like, the bottom. It's like a bottom feeding emotion. It
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really has no purpose other than to create such a juxtaposition of position of what
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you don't want, that eventually becomes a catalyst for you to break through.
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That's really the only purpose of shame. Other than that, it doesn't
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really have a purpose. It's like a bacteria. Right? Like, it it's
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it doesn't have a purpose, really, other than to make you so uncomfortable
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that you move. Does that make sense? Yeah.
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And that's I mean, I feel like I'm So you actually actually like where you
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are. Otherwise, you wouldn't be there. And that is
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why you're there Yeah. Which is normal. Right? Yeah.
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So, you have to ask yourself the question, am I willing
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to admit that I could be a good person?
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And if that's the case, can I if I can't forgive myself,
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would I at least be willing to speak in the direction of
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forgiveness towards myself? Be willing, because willingness,
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way more powerful. And I've you know, in
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my mirror work, I've done that. I I do that.
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That that's where I end up. And I and I'm telling
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myself that, you know, I'm a good person. I have a good heart. My intentions
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are good. Believe you're a good person and tell yourself you're a good person, and
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you go bullshit. I'm not talking about what you say to yourself to to
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to, soothe yourself temporarily. I'm talking about on a on
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a on a belief level. Be willing to believe that
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you could be a good person at a deeper level than what you
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say to yourself in the mirror. Yeah. That's Because,
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like, mirror work without changing the belief is like, I love myself. I
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love myself. I love myself. I'm kind of just bullshit. No. You're fucking done.
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And that's yeah. That's where I'm stuck. The real the real
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question is why do I not leave Love Myself. And the answer
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is because I think I'm a bad person, which is probably some
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version of childhood criticism coming back to frame
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your lend for your life. Yeah. That that that
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that's totally true. So do you wanna be victimized by your criticism, or do you
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wanna grow from it? I wanna grow. Cool. So if you wanna
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grow and you really wanna grow Right. Is that true?
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Yes. It is true. I wanna grow. Can you be willing
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to admit that you could be a good person.
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Yes. And could you be willing then to also feel
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the sadness associate with the guilt of thinking, miss,
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sort of misthinking that you're a bad person, because that's the work. You have to
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have an emotional experience. You can't think yourself out of it.
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I feel like I've been having a lot of emotional experiences
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around it. So My question, though. Would you
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be willing to feel the sadness associated
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with the guilt of misbelieving that you're a bad person?
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Yes. Get ready, girl. Oh,
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boy. What's the worst that will happen?
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What's the worst? The worst. The worst that would happen. I
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if I allow it, I I don't know that there would be a worst. I
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know that you don't know, but the pattern says if I feel my feelings, something
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will happen. Yeah. I'll
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die. Some version of that. I'll finally live Live a big life. Well, yes. That's what
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that's that's the same part of you that says, I love myself.
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And the pattern's like, fuck you. No. You don't. I'm asking the pattern
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of the question, which is what's the worst that will happen if you feel your
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feelings? It's unconscious.
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There's no goddamn sense.
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A a a breakdown of emotion.
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And I'm assuming based on that patterning,
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that the pattern believes that if I'm emotional,
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I will be criticized. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's that's
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absolutely true. But what if I can be emotional and safe?
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That would be wonderful. Yeah. So now we know why you feel this
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way. Because you think it's unsafe to feel your emotions, which is
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kind of like saying, I don't really think it's safe to breathe, so I'm just
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gonna hold my breath until I pass out. And I wonder why I pass out
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all the fucking time. Yeah.
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So where could you go for emotional sustenance and emotional nurturing to to share
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some feelings that might be judged? I have a few people. Unfortunately, not
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my family. Few hundred people?
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A few 100 people? I think so. Oh, yes. That's
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Oh. I'm so sorry. Oh, okay.
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The answer is right in front of you. Yes. I know. They've been wonderful. I just find it
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hard to it's hard. Open up. It's
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hard. It's going to be hard. But you know what's harder? Not
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opening up. Absolutely. Right? So Yeah. Let's
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celebrate this emotional threshold that you've hit
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where you're sick and fucking tired. Yeah. And know that it's
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safe to share. And what I'd encourage you to do is hop on to the
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Facebook group and say, hey. Here's my outcome. I'm in the process of
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forgiving myself. So to do that, I wanna share some of the sadness
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and the shame, not so that we can make it bigger, but because it's like
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I need to share this Let it go. That make sense? Yes. Absolutely.
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Then watch. Watch. You will absolutely be
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safe, and that is the process. So the emotional
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honesty is how you heal. Yeah. And all the work that
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we do in this program is designed to kinda squeeze you to get
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you to this place. Yes. I've I've I've felt the squeeze,
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man. I've felt the squeeze. Good. Awesome. So can I
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get a fist bump? Yes. Awesome. That's awesome work, and
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I'm proud of you. I hope so. Just know that you're in a safe
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place. And you know what? Last thing I'll say, you said it's not my family.
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You have I'm not even sure how many people in your family. Let's just say
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it's a large family of 12 people. They're like you, close circle. Okay?
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You have 100 Yeah. Who are here that wanna support
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you. Go to where the love is. I will. Alright? I
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will. Thank you so much. You. Awesome. You're welcome.
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