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You're probably here today if you're like anyone else that we've worked with because you've
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been doing a lot of work on yourself. That's probably why you're here today because
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you're doing a lot of work on yourself. Before we even get started, can we
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just is it possible to acknowledge how hard you've been working on yourself?
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It feels like everyone we meet is working harder and harder and harder. And
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if you've been working harder on yourself, we just wanna say thank you, And thank
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you for all the hard work that you're doing. I know that sometimes the healing
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journey can be a thankless job, and no one can see your growth, but we
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see it. We witness it. We care deeply about that. And
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because you've been doing the coaching and because you've been doing the
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therapy, because you've been doing the energy healing, because you've been
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doing the seminars, webinars, and books, and you've been doing a lot of work on
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yourself and you're here, if you still feel stuck, there's a good
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reason. And so today, let's talk about why you feel like
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you're doing all this nervous system work and staying stuck in old patterns. So that's
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what we're gonna be diving into today. And so why does
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it feel like you're doing all the work and not getting the lasting
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sustainable results that you truly want in your life and your business? What do you
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think? What's your guess? Fear? What's your
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guess as to why you're not there yet? Overwhelming
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emotions? Perhaps. Yes. What if I told you it was super
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simple? What if I told you on some level on some level,
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is it possible that perhaps your nervous system
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doesn't know how to be safe at the next level, doesn't know how to be
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safe at the next level of vulnerability, doesn't know how to be safe at
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the next level of happiness or joy or abundance. And
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Laurie just said, I just don't really believe it's true. Well, if I don't believe
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something is true, that also makes sense. And there's a if we
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have disbelief, there's a lack of safety there also, which we can get into. It's
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either a lack of safety doesn't feel safe enough and or Kipp set,
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missing skill set. And so it's important to understand that
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when it comes to, why you're not there, it's usually
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be a lack of feeling safe enough and or a lack of skill set. And
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when you feel safe enough and you have the skill set, typically, things start to
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happen in your life. And so for me, I didn't know all this when
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I first got started. So this is me when I was young in Hollywood. My
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first step at changing my life was leaving a toxic relationship and getting sober
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after losing my dream job, and I white knuckled it. I remember when I was,
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like, actively drinking alcohol and people told me to go to rehab. Rehab is for
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quitters. That was my that was my thing. Whatever I do, I like to go
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all in on. And at the time, I was going all in on drugs and
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alcohol, but I decided to white knuckle it. And I didn't know about nervous
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system. I didn't know about trauma. I didn't know about somatics. I didn't know about
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any of these things. And I started reading self help books and doing talk
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therapy, and I had lots of knowledge, but not lots of change. I'm not against
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therapy, not against books. Those are beautiful things. But who here feels like you've ever,
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like, known what to do, but then didn't do it? You just had all this
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cognitive knowledge of, like, understanding, but no action. You know what I'm talking about? This
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doesn't get into the get into the into the actual behavior.
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Right? But you're, like, learning. And sometimes it's better to not
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learn because you don't even know this other stuff is possible. Once you start to
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learn and you realize things are possible and you're not doing it, it's like a
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whole different level of being hard on yourself. Right? Then I
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discovered yoga and breath work, and what was cool about yoga and breath
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work for me was the physiological shift. Like, I really
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felt different. When I would read books or do talk therapy, I had different thoughts
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that would last very short periods of time. When I started doing
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body work and breath work and yoga and somatics, I had a
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physiological shift. Does that make sense? But it was only for a short period
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of time. And what I didn't realize at the time was I was doing all
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this yoga and breath work to out breath work
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a toxic business partnership that I was in. So I would like to have a
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disregulating day all day, and then do yoga and breath work in the morning at
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night to, like, shake it off, basically. And I still love yoga and breath work
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very much, but when we talk about we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna put
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in place in proper context. Right? I tried then to start up my first
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business, but it wasn't with the right business partner and didn't take that into
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account. I was in a lot of therapy on myself, but didn't know how to
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do relationship very well, didn't know how to do business partnership very well, and it
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failed before it took off even though was a t shirt company called Love Yourself.
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We had the great Wayne Dyer in our t shirts. We had Jennifer Aniston, Christina
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Aguilera. It was like the first hustle that I really ever had, and it
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was really sad that it came crashing down. And when it
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came crashing down, what did I decide to do? I'm unemployable
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at this point, so I decided I'm a go all in. I decided to forget
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about therapy and yoga and breath work and went all in on coaching as I
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started my second business. And this is me and Tony Robbins who's a dear
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friend in, I think, about 2010 or 11 or something like that. And,
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I decided to just move forward. That was the thing. Before, it was
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about talking about it. It was about spiritualizing it. It was about breath work. It's
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about feeling it. I said, you know what? Just move it forward. Has he ever
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done this before? Where you're just, like, get out of my way. I'm gonna make
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it happen. Move. We gotta move. Right? And it worked for a period
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of time. It really did, but I was bypassing my body sensations, my
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feelings, and my negative thinking just to be able to move. And that
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was not really a great long term strategy. Even though I created success
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initially, Oprah had me on Super Soul Sunday, which was an incredible honor.
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The great Louise Hay came to a talk of mine and offered me a book
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deal at Hay House. The problem was it cost me my health. Like, I I
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literally remember one time going to a health conference, but I was not healthy enough
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to go to health conference because my lower back was out. And so
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there was a cost to massive action. Does that make sense?
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Right? There was a cost to to massive action. And so it's not, like, we're
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not against it. We just want integrated action. So as Jen and I start
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coaching people more, doing the work more, we started to realize that, you know what?
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Like, people are not achieving their goals. Gosh. I'm not even
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achieving my goals because there's stuff we've been through in the past that no one's
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talking about. And we really got into creating
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an integrated holistic approach to coaching. This is me with doctor Bessel van der Kolk,
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who's the author of the Body Keeps the Score. And what we started to put
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together for ourselves and our clients over, like, 20,000 plus hours
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is that we're we're taking into account both high performance,
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mindset, emotions, somatics, and trauma or
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overwhelming experiences if you don't like that. And there's a holistic
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approach that we wanna talk about. So it's not just one thing or the other.
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And one of the things that we've seen is where it's the coaching or therapy
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space, it's very siloed. Does that make sense? There's a lot of
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siloing happening, and you have to, like, catch up your coach with the
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trauma therapist. The trauma therapist doesn't really understand about business and there and
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all that doesn't really understand about breath work, and it's just kinda like gets like
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this hodgepodge. And what we want to create was a, an integrated approach.
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And so my name is Mastin Kipp. I'm the cocreator of Functional Life Coaching. I
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have over 20000 hours, working with clients. We apply
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neuroscience and take an evidence based approach to everything that we do. We do our
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best to be on the cutting edge. We have over 40,000 students who've gone through
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our programs. I have a best selling book called Claim Your Power that gets bought
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all the time with The Body Keeps the Score and, How to Do the Work
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with doctor Nicole LaPerra, the holistic psychologist. Was a genre defining
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book, like, bringing this idea of trauma informed coaching to the general public,
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in the mid 2,000 tens. I was privileged to launch a number
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one podcast when we first came out, and it's gotten millions of downloads
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ever since. We've been blessed to travel the world and speak around thousands of
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people, lead retreats, go to New York Stock Exchange. I've been able to speak at,
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Wake Forest for my TEDx Talk. Tom, Tom Bilyeu had me
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on Impact Theory. There's a lot there's been a lot of beautiful things that have
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been able to happen. And recently, so pinched myself here, but the work has
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even been endorsed by doctor Steven Porges, who's the author of Polyvagal Theory.
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Doctor Porges says that Mastin Kipp skillfully unravels and demystifies
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the profound experiences associated with trauma, providing
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survivors with optimism, empowerment. Their relatable narrative Kipp
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seamlessly blends practical therapeutic techniques with the wisdom
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acquired through his own journey and his interactions with clients. The result is a
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practical framework that effectively separates the embodied experience of trauma
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from specific events and diagnostic labels fostering positive outcomes for those on
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the healing on path to healing. I still doesn't doesn't feel like this is
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real, but it's just been an incredible journey from, an
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8 by 8 pool house, so I was couch surfing to what's happening now. And
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so what I could tell you is when we meet people, when we meet people,
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when we first when we first meet with them, with over 20000 hours of doing
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the work, what we see with people is they've done a lot of work, they've
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done the retreats, they've done the seminars, they've done the therapy, they've done the
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biohacking, they've done the psychedelics, they've done the meditation, they've done the
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spiritual work, they've done the self healing, but they still feel stuck. Is
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that accurate? I'm just kinda curious. Does that kinda accurately describe
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your experience? I'm curious. You you just like all
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this stuff, and you still feel stuck. Right? And so the
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question is, why? Well, we have to remember, it's not your fault.
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So if you're stuck and you're not getting
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results, it's not happening fast enough, the reason may not be why you
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think. So let's ask a question and pop this in the
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chat or leave a comment on Facebook. How many modalities
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have you tried to use to change your life? I'll just sit here and wait.
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How many modalities have you used? 7? Not bad. Way
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too many. At least 5, 10, 20. Okay. So a
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lot. Okay. We meet a lot of people who meet a lot a lot a
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lot of modalities. Okay? And then how much money have you
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spent on those modalities? I'm just curious. You know, you can say a lot. You
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can give a number, but leave a comment or pop it in the chat if
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you're with us here in VIP. Right? How much money do you feel like you've
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invested? Too much. Yeah. 45, 45,000,
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45 dollars, several 100,000. Okay. So there's a big so what we
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see with people is there's a big investment of time, and there's a big investment
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of money, and there's still this experience of feeling stuck.
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Okay? And so if that's the case, that's
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okay. My question for you is I like you to be rigorously honest.
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How effective has it been? How stuck do you feel right now? And what I
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mean by that is maybe you did trauma work and it created more capacity
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for you to talk about your past, but hasn't really helped you move forward or
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maybe you've invested a lot in moving forward, but you feel stuck. How
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effective would you say? Because when we talk about doing different modalities, they can
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be very effective for specific things. But the coaching and therapy and spiritual
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space is so fragmented. For example, beautiful modalities, somatic experiencing.
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Right? Really helpful in getting in touch with your somatics. But doesn't really help with
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performance. Right? Then we get, like, high performance coaching, which is great on strategy
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of what to do. But if your somatics aren't on board, then you kinda get
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stuck. Then we have parts work where there's internal family systems or gestalt, which is
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great, help you understand multiplicity. But the problem is you just keep counting
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parts and maybe you unburden or heal, but then there is
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really no momentum in forward motion, especially in the context of trauma healing. The trauma
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healing modalities are not designed for performance, and the performance
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modalities are not designed for healing. And so
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when I talk about how effective has it been, what you'll probably
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tell me is, well, I got great strategies or I got great healing, but I'm
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either really solid on the past and the future isn't so set
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or the future is, like, clear, but the past is holding me back. I'm just
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kind of curious how it's been for you. So it's been life changing, but hitting
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a plateau. Exactly. Very effective in healing my Mastin, moving forward has
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become effective when applying this work, which I love Naomi. That's beautiful. So
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what we see is is that there is a level of effectiveness, but
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there is no place where you can bring it all together. Does that make
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sense? There's no place to bring it all together. And so that's what we wanna
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really dive into. And the question is also, what is nervous system work, by
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the way? What does that even mean? How would you define nervous system
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work? Am I stimulating my vagus nerve? Am I doing breath work?
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You know, so many things can impact your nervous system. What does it even mean
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to nervous system work? Okay. Well, here's what I can tell you.
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Okay? Nervous system work is not a specific
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modality. So many modalities can work with your nervous system.
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In fact, anything you do basically works with your nervous system because your
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nervous system controls your whole life. So when you're cooking food
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in the kitchen, you're engaging your nervous system. When you're talking to your therapist,
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you're engaging your nervous system. When you're at the gym, you're engaging your nervous system.
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So, like, everything engages your nervous system. It's like the word somatic. Right?
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Like, I've been seeing like somatic breath work. Well, there's no such thing as
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non somatic breath work. All breath work happens in the body.
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Right? There's no such thing as somatic workouts. There's just workouts because we use
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the body. Somatic means of the body. We talk about nervous system work
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here. Okay, what we're talking about is building
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capacity in your nervous system for a bigger
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life. So here, when we talk about it, we're talking
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about building capacity no different than if you're at the gym,
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strength training, trying to lift heavier weights. So what we're talking about here in
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context of nervous system work is not in necessarily specific modality,
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It is building more capacity. And what I can tell you is after 10 plus
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years of doing this, I discovered the hard way how to do
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nervous system work. And I'd like to save you all that time and money and
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learn the simple and easy way. Can I show you the hard way real quick?
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I want buy in here. Engagement is important to me. Can I show you what
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I think the hard way looks like? If it if I can, just say yes
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in the chat or give a give me a comment and say yes. Can I
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show you? Do you mind? Okay. Yes? Okay. Beautiful. So this is what I think
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the hard way looks like. It's just hodgepodge of shit everywhere.
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Right? I'm a get overwhelmed, I'm a do meditation, I'm a do mindset, somatic coaching.
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I'll do DBT, gratitude, inference on a brain spotting, burned out, health coaching, yoga
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overwhelmed, homeopathic, psychedelic. Just throw in all of it
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at it and just hoping that something sticks. Does that look like
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who here feels like this might be how it's been for you? I'm curious.
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Yes? Yeah. I see the smiles. Yeah. I see that. I see Claire smile right
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there. Okay. Yes. Exactly. Okay? What we know is the
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hard way leads to paralysis, which means stuck. Okay?
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The hard way leads to stuckness. Okay? Now here's the thing.
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People that we meet are either usually unaware and
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bypassing their emotions, or they're super aware
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and letting their emotions run the show. So the unaware people
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are like, change your thoughts, change your life. I don't have feelings. That doesn't matter.
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And the emotional people are like, I gotta feel it to heal it. I gotta
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feel it before I manifest it. The feeling is very important, and I don't have
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the feeling, so I can't take the action yet. And there are these 2 extremes.
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Who am I talking to right now? I'm curious. Who am I talking to?
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Okay. You feel called out. It's out of pure love. Okay? That's
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why. Alright? So there are lots of different approaches to
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nervous system approaches, and these aren't all of them, but there's lots. Right? Gestalt, transactional
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analysis, NLP, neuro linguistic programming, ego state therapy,
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redecision, Jungian, Freudian, IFS, internal family systems, functional
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coaching, narrative therapy, somatic experiencing, so analytic object
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relations theory, polyvagal informed approaches. There's so many
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different types of of of approaches. Okay? But what they all deal
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with is important I wanna highlight this. All of them deal with inner conflict.
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Meaning, we have different parts of your nervous system with different agendas. Part of your
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nervous system wants to move. Part of your nervous system wants to hide. Part of
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your nervous system wants to go hug somebody. Part of your nervous system wants to
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go have a big future. Part of your nervous system can't get over the small
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past. Part of your nervous system doesn't know what to do about those two problems.
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Right? So we have inner conflict. Who follows? Does this make sense?
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