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Matt Walsh. On Monday,
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prosecutors in Arizona decided not to retry
2:47
George Allen Kelly after his prosecution resulted
2:49
in a hung jury. Last we'd tell
2:52
you may remember is the Arizona Rancher
2:54
who was accused of shooting and killing
2:56
a Mexican national named Gabriel to win
2:58
or boot a mile who was illegally
3:01
trespassing on his property. Deborah had previously
3:03
been caught illegally United States several times
3:05
before his death. He. Was most
3:07
recently departed into a sixteen. As
3:09
a strong got underway, I defended Kelly based
3:12
on a pretty simple principle which has that
3:14
American citizens have a right. To. Defend
3:16
their property and their families and them Says.
3:19
That's all really needed to say or know about. This
3:21
gets like that, that should. That should be at. Those.
3:24
Men had no right to be on his
3:26
property, and I this case, they didn't even
3:28
have the right to be in this country,
3:31
let alone on his property. And so it's
3:33
an egregious miscarriage of justice to prosecute a
3:35
man for defending his property from a invaders
3:37
invaders who are it's illegal to times over.
3:40
But. As weren't wearing you know any
3:42
new like enough to know that this is
3:44
a a total miscarriage of justice By have
3:47
to admit that. Until I
3:49
looked more closely into the trial I
3:51
had. No. Idea exactly how
3:54
outrageous this prosecution was.
3:56
I. Didn't fully understand the extent of
3:58
the depravity that motivate. These prosecutors to
4:00
try to ruin the life alright of a
4:03
rancher in his seventies because he exercised his
4:05
right of self defense. So. However
4:07
unjust you think this case is, it's
4:09
It's even worse than that. I.
4:12
Thought plan a moment At trial.
4:14
The prosecution couldn't even prove that
4:16
Kelly was responsible for killing Gabriel.
4:19
Oh, in other words, it's not just
4:21
that the prosecution failed to disprove self
4:23
defense beyond a reasonable doubt, which is
4:25
their burden. The. Prosecution also failed
4:27
to prove that Kelly had committed any form
4:30
of homicide at all. Apparently
4:32
a single low a juror is the only
4:34
reason the George Allen Kelly wasn't acquitted outright.
4:36
And after you hear what happened in this
4:38
case, the idea that even one guy on
4:41
the jersey. Or. Member of the jury
4:43
want to convict at all is truly
4:45
unbelievable. So. Let's. Begin with
4:47
the prosecution's opening statement. This
4:50
is where the state have the
4:52
opportunity to tease if star witness
4:54
a hundred and national been named
4:56
Daniel Ramirez. Supposedly Ramirez who was
4:58
also illegally on tell his property
5:00
or witnessed Kelly murder Gabriel in
5:02
cold blood. And Ramirez
5:04
his testimony. The prosecutor suggested.
5:07
Would. Be air tight like
5:09
conclusive. A
5:28
real oh. Oh.
5:54
S. So.
5:56
That's a prosecutor promise as that's a pretty.
5:59
Pretty. ah of high bar. Gabriel's
6:01
companion, quote unquote, not his
6:03
criminal accomplice, but his command
6:05
companion. The prosecutor says, Saul
6:08
Gabriel gets shot in the back because
6:10
this maniac rancher was shooting wildly at
6:12
them. And she says that is
6:14
the state versus George Allen Kelly in a nutshell.
6:18
And well, that turned out to be true, although
6:20
not in the way that the prosecutor intended. So
6:23
behold the testimony of star
6:25
witness, Daniel Ramirez here. And
6:29
so you told investigators in the
6:31
case that you knew someone who
6:33
recognized someone who was in the
6:35
group and that was this person
6:38
in Ramon's way. Where
6:40
I think the point is,
6:42
I don't know if you know what it is. I'm
6:44
going to be here and I'm going to be here
6:46
and I'm going to be here for a while. I'm
6:48
not going to be here anymore. I'm going to be
6:50
here, I'm going to be here. I'm going to
6:52
be here, I'm going to be here. Who?
6:56
The makeup boy was from which he
6:58
was a guy that
7:01
had a conversation with his spectators
7:03
and that was a person who accompanied
7:05
you in this group. His
7:08
name was Ramon and that
7:10
person was with you. You testified to
7:12
that before lunch. Do you remember that testimony?
7:47
I mean, it's painful to listen to. It's like
7:50
she's questioning a brick wall, basically. The guy just
7:52
sits there staring with a glazed expression.
7:54
He doesn't even blink, I notice. He's
7:58
just like, doesn't appear to be even fully conscious. conscious.
8:01
But through the translator, we learn that
8:03
Ramirez can't remember much of anything, including
8:05
what he said under oath during the
8:07
trial, right before the lunch break.
8:10
This is the companion, quote unquote, who
8:13
was supposed to convince us that he remembers everything
8:15
about the day that George Kelly murdered his buddy
8:17
for no reason out of the blue. Now,
8:20
I'm not going to show you all
8:22
the testimony because, you know, it's just too long,
8:24
but also it's just excruciating excruciating to listen to.
8:27
Suffice it to say, there were so
8:29
many inconsistencies with what Ramirez said that
8:32
he was worse and useless as a witness.
8:36
And remember, this is their whole case in
8:38
a nutshell, is this guy. The prosecutor said
8:40
that. For example,
8:42
Ramirez testified that he was with Gabriel just a
8:44
few meters away from the house when the shooting
8:47
happened, but the body was found more
8:49
than 100 yards away from the house.
8:51
And additionally, Ramirez said that the shots went
8:53
towards the house, which makes no sense. And
8:56
when he spoke to police, Ramirez first said
8:58
the shooting occurred west of Nogales, uh,
9:00
only to change his mind when he was told where
9:02
the rancher actually lived. And on top of all that,
9:05
Ramirez insisted that he saw his companion
9:07
fall backward, but the body was discovered
9:09
face down. Oh, and Ramirez
9:11
happens to be a drug smuggler, although
9:14
he initially lied about that as well, of course. And
9:16
he's been caught trying to illegally enter this country
9:18
between eight and 10 times. Now,
9:21
if you want to give the prosecution a benefit of
9:23
the doubt for some reason, you
9:26
might discount all of that. You might say
9:28
that, well, this was
9:31
one unreliable, unreliable witness. And
9:33
sure, it's their star witness. The one they said that their
9:35
whole case, their whole case in a nutshell is this guy,
9:37
but, but you know, surely the rest of their case was
9:39
solid, but actually the fact that
9:41
their star witness has the memory of a
9:43
goldfish was just the beginning of
9:46
the state's problems. The larger issue was
9:48
that under the prosecution's theory of the case, none
9:50
of George Allen Kelly's actions on the day of
9:53
the shooting made any sense whatsoever under their theory
9:55
of the case. So here's the timeline. In
9:58
early January, 2023, a border patrol agent
10:00
and liaison who frequently speaks to ranchers
10:02
in the area advised Kelly by text
10:04
message several times that illegal aliens
10:06
were traveling through the area in large
10:08
groups. Quote, some
10:10
may have had narcotics, the agent texted the
10:13
Kelly. That's what he told them. And
10:15
these kinds of texts continued throughout the month. And then on
10:18
January 30th, several illegals
10:20
were spotted by border patrol in the
10:22
desert of Kino Springs, Arizona, and they
10:24
fled. At least two of
10:26
them ended up on Kelly's ranch, at which point,
10:28
as he was making lunch, Kelly says he heard
10:30
a gunshot. So he calls the
10:32
police who rushes outside, he fires several warning shots
10:34
from his right to scare them
10:37
away to warn them. Kelly insists that
10:39
the police come to his property. They
10:41
conduct a full sweep, they're mistakenly looking for
10:43
an active shooter at this point, and
10:46
they don't find anything. And then hours
10:48
later, Kelly finds the body himself calls
10:50
911 voluntarily to report it. He
10:52
doesn't hide any shell casings. He doesn't bury
10:54
the body on his 170 acre property as
10:56
he could and would have if this was
10:58
a murder. He immediately
11:00
reports it. That's what he does. And
11:03
that's, again, not exactly consistent with the theory
11:05
that Kelly is a murderer who just shot
11:07
somebody in cold blood. Normally, murderers don't
11:09
call the police and tell them to come search
11:11
their remote property so they can find the body.
11:14
And then if police miss the body, murderers
11:16
don't call the cops again to
11:18
inform them that they missed it and invite them
11:20
back onto their remote
11:22
property again. That's not normally
11:24
how murderers operate. But
11:27
that's the prosecution's theory here. The
11:30
police came back to the ranch and decided very quickly
11:32
that Kelly must have killed Gabriel, even
11:34
though they couldn't find the fatal
11:36
bullet anywhere. Now, this isn't exactly solid
11:38
logic. So instead of explaining it, the
11:40
prosecution spent the rest of their opening statement lying
11:43
about the 911 call about
11:45
the body. Listen. This
11:48
is a photograph of Gabriel's friend, Lucian, there.
11:50
And I'm
11:52
going to ask you to do something in his case that
11:55
George Allen Kelly's own words told you that
11:57
he did not. to
12:00
consider Gabriel's presence with
12:03
the man as a person,
12:06
as a human being, and
12:08
not a source of time to trust him as
12:11
a woman. So
12:14
he says that Kelly called the
12:16
guy an animal, which
12:19
sounds bad, I guess, is how the jury's
12:21
supposed to see that. Supposedly
12:23
when Kelly was calling 911 to report
12:26
that he had found a dead body, he called the man
12:28
an animal. The implication, of course,
12:30
is that he's, I guess, a bigoted MAGA
12:32
Republican, one of those dastardly folks who thinks
12:34
that everybody from Mexico isn't human. The
12:37
problem with this argument is that even if Kelly had
12:39
called Gabriel an animal, it
12:42
would, first of all, be an understandable thing to
12:44
say based solely on his actions. This
12:46
guy was a criminal, a repeat offender who
12:49
continually and illegally trespassed onto the
12:51
his product into the country and then onto his property
12:53
in this case. And so
12:55
it would be understandable if Kelly was angry
12:57
and used unkind words to describe
12:59
the dead intruder. But even if it's
13:02
not, it doesn't prove that he was guilty of
13:04
felony homicide. Even if he said something really terrible
13:06
about this guy after the fact, it doesn't prove
13:08
anything at all. It doesn't prove that he's guilty,
13:10
it doesn't prove anything. But
13:12
if you listen to the full 911 tape, you
13:14
discover that actually Kelly
13:16
wasn't calling this guy an animal because of
13:18
his actions or because of his nationality or
13:21
ethnicity or anything like that. What
13:23
happened is that Kelly very clearly didn't want to
13:25
provide any more statements to the police than he
13:27
needed to. He had a vague idea, which would
13:29
later seem to be very correct,
13:32
that the police would seek to use everything he said
13:34
against him. So he didn't want to be specific. He
13:36
just wanted an officer to be dispatched to his property.
13:39
So this is a longer clip than we would
13:41
normally play. But it's important to get the context,
13:43
understand how deranged the prosecutor's
13:45
lies were. Listen. What
13:48
I'm telling you is that we
13:52
need a sheriff's
13:54
deputy out here, one on a little
13:56
cross circle. He needs, and that's all
13:58
I can say. say ma'am. Okay,
14:01
is that your one, ma'am? I
14:05
just had a question about the other side, I just had a
14:07
number of those jokes. There's no,
14:10
there's no. Okay,
14:13
do you see what the situation is?
14:15
Do you see any other people? Well,
14:19
in other
14:23
words, okay, you know, you
14:26
have a lot of men, you
14:28
know, you have a lot of men saw it and who said
14:31
he can't. I don't know. He's
14:33
taken care of it, he's in all the groups. I'm
14:35
not, I'm not, as many days as I've been,
14:37
but there are all those things
14:39
that he's been had up in, I don't know what happened.
14:42
Somebody right here, last spring
14:46
out here, there
14:48
was a pickup sound on
14:50
East April with
14:53
a dead lady in it. Uh-huh. I
14:56
don't know if you knew that or not. Uh-huh.
14:58
Okay, I'm going to what happened. Okay,
15:01
is the situation similar to that, how's
15:03
that? It's a, it's a,
15:05
it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
15:09
is it disposed? Yes. What does
15:11
that mean? Uh, it's
15:13
been there for a while, can you tell? Uh,
15:16
from, from what, in that,
15:19
in that I only approached the
15:21
body to make sure that the
15:23
animal, how do you call it
15:25
a vegetable or a mineral, the animal wasn't
15:27
alive and it was not alive. Okay.
15:30
There were no signs, there
15:32
was no signs of blood,
15:35
uh, there was
15:37
just a, uh, an animal laying
15:40
face down. An
15:42
animal? An animal,
15:44
and you know what an animal is, it's not a vegetable
15:46
or a mineral. Okay.
15:51
It's a body and you know what I'm talking about. So, um,
15:53
it's kind of a strange call to listen to.
15:59
There's no doubt about it. But it's clear
16:01
from that audio that Kelly is not making
16:03
any kind of commentary on the person he
16:05
just shot He's not saying illegals are animals
16:07
or whatever The way
16:10
the prosecutor put it in the opening statement makes it
16:12
sound like he shot this animal is
16:14
dirty Mexican Whatever that's that's what they want you
16:16
to conjure in your mind But
16:18
that's not what he's saying nor is he trying
16:20
to hide that there's a dead human body on the
16:22
property He called about he's trying to get somebody out
16:24
there Instead he's trying albeit clumsily
16:27
to get police to the property while not admitting
16:29
anything that in his mind might incriminate him He's
16:31
not trying he doesn't want to say much in
16:34
an I want call knowing that it's being recorded We can
16:36
assume that that's part of what what his thinking was And
16:39
so he's just he's just trying to get in fact even
16:41
clarifies that when he says animal he means it like in
16:43
the biological Scientific sense that
16:46
we are animals in that sense. He makes
16:48
that very clear Now,
16:50
of course the prosecution and the media had
16:53
to insinuate otherwise because they know they don't
16:55
have an actual case So they decided it's
16:57
best to just accuse this 70 something year
16:59
old rancher of being a racist
17:01
because of this phone call Now
17:03
there were other low points for the prosecution like how
17:05
they kept claiming that Gabriel was trying to live out
17:08
the American dream Even though
17:10
he showed up on Kelly's property dressed in
17:12
camouflage wearing tactical boots equipped with
17:14
an encrypted two-way radio You
17:17
know like people do when they want to live out the American
17:19
dream and somehow despite that evidence
17:21
The police testified that they never
17:24
considered the possibility that maybe he was a drug smuggler And
17:27
it was all a spectacle But
17:29
maybe the lowest point was prosecutors attempt
17:31
to question Kelly's wife Wanda It
17:33
was important for prosecutors to try to discredit
17:35
Wanda because she testified that she saw the
17:38
trespassers On the property
17:40
with firearms and camo backpacks watch
17:45
that you
17:48
didn't really make it very
17:50
crucial and
17:53
you just needed see that's all
17:56
what hold on
18:00
My husband was out there, punching
18:03
these guys with guns. Can
18:05
you please help us stand there and
18:07
count how many times we get a
18:10
shot? You're crazy!
18:13
Can we have just asking him one piece on
18:15
the floor? I think not two on the floor.
18:17
I told him I saw two. That's all I
18:19
saw. Well, I'm gonna
18:21
shot right now. Oh, that's what I've
18:24
been saying, but he's also a
18:26
liar. But, oh
18:29
no. Is
18:32
that true? This is how they set the
18:34
tools every time y'all. Thank you.
18:37
What was that? It was a mirror.
18:40
I don't remember talking to you. That's what I think,
18:42
so I don't know when you're ever telling them, or
18:44
shots. So
18:47
here the prosecutors are trying to do to
18:49
Wanda what the defense attorneys did to Ramirez,
18:51
except it doesn't work, because Ramirez can't remember
18:54
what he said before lunch that day. He
18:57
can't remember where the crime scene was. He
18:59
can't remember what direction the shots came from,
19:01
or what happened to his quote-unquote companion after
19:03
he was hit. By contrast,
19:05
Wanda couldn't recall the precise number
19:07
of gunshots that she heard during
19:10
a moment of extreme stress. This is an
19:12
elderly woman, and there's gunshots going
19:14
off, and she can't remember the exact number. Wow.
19:19
So this is supposedly the prosecution's got-you moment.
19:22
Now, the point was apparently to distract from the
19:24
fact that the prosecution doesn't actually have any evidence
19:26
that Kelly even killed Gabriel, because they
19:28
never recovered a bullet. They couldn't
19:31
do any ballistics matching to determine who's gunfire
19:33
the fatal shot, because they didn't have the
19:35
evidence. For all the authorities
19:37
knew, Gabriel could have been shot
19:39
somewhere off-site and dragged to the ranch. He
19:41
could have been shot on-site by somebody else.
19:44
You know, maybe that was the bullet that Kelly says
19:46
he heard. The prosecution
19:48
has no definitive answer to any of that. Their
19:51
entire case hinges instead on an elderly couple
19:54
not recalling the precise amount of warning shots
19:56
that were fired. Now,
19:58
did you- hear about any of these
20:01
details? Probably not. I hadn't heard some
20:03
of these details either. And the reason I decided
20:05
to do a deeper dive into this case is that I
20:08
saw a thread from an account on
20:10
Twitter called Rosie Memos, and she
20:12
unearthed several incredible videos, including this
20:14
footage of the sheriff in Santa Cruz
20:16
County falsely accusing Kelly of being an
20:18
outsider and an extremist who wanted
20:20
to, quote, hunt me some Mexicans. Watch.
20:25
What about those vigilante groups? Are they
20:27
out here? There are people
20:30
that will come to the border thinking they're going to find
20:32
some action. Like we had a rancher here that
20:35
had been writing fan fiction
20:37
on Amazon and he
20:39
was describing himself hunting
20:41
migrants with his
20:44
AK-47. And he actually even
20:46
used his own name and his wife's name
20:48
and his ranch's name. And he came from
20:50
somewhere else. And then we
20:53
caught him out there actually shooting
20:55
at some people out there shooting at some migrants.
20:58
Wow. Killed one of them. And one of them
21:00
got away. So now he's being
21:02
prosecuted for homicide in
21:04
the county. So that's an example of a guy with
21:07
that mentality. They come out here and they want to
21:09
say, I'm out here in the wild west and they
21:11
want to have a big tough story to tell. I'm
21:13
going to go out there and hunt me some Mexicans,
21:16
you know, and that appeals
21:18
to some people. But it's not a common
21:20
thing. It's like, I mean, you would just
21:22
be driving around. He's an extremist. Yeah.
21:26
Now, the sheriff is lying about
21:28
the contents of Kelly's book, for one thing. It's
21:30
not about hunting Mexicans. It's about a rancher who
21:32
fights drug cartels. And that's not a crazy topic
21:35
to write about when you're constantly hearing from Border
21:37
Patrol that Jane cartels are running through your property.
21:39
And of course, Kelly isn't an
21:41
outsider. She lived on that property for more than a decade.
21:44
Now, by the way, that
21:46
gives you a sense of how completely one sided
21:48
this whole prosecution was. They decided
21:50
to make an example of George Kelly and they didn't
21:53
bother with building a real case. In
21:55
fact, the authorities didn't do any real forensic work whatsoever.
21:57
As I mentioned, they didn't find the bullet. They
22:00
also never found any gunshot residue and never
22:02
tested the back fact that the trespassers were
22:04
carrying for any gunshot residue either and You
22:07
know, if you watch the trial in the various interviews You'll
22:09
notice that the police decided very
22:11
quickly that they were going to charge george kelly
22:14
Their strategy was to interview kelly and his wife multiple times
22:16
get them to say as much as possible And
22:19
then use any contradiction however minor As
22:21
there always will be some contradiction when you're telling the
22:23
same story over and over again to different people especially
22:25
when you're under in a moment of stress And
22:28
they want to use all that as proof that kelly is a
22:30
murderer If you need to
22:32
get more reason to never talk to the police
22:34
unless it's absolutely necessary. Well, this is it Now
22:38
even though kelly is is now free to go back to
22:40
his life The fact remains that the government tried to send
22:42
this elderly man to prison for a
22:45
quote unquote crime that Even
22:47
if he had quote unquote committed He
22:50
would have been justified in doing so In
22:53
in the name of self-defense and defending his property
22:56
And yet there is no direct evidence that he even did
22:58
commit it There's no
23:00
way to explain why this prosecution occurred
23:02
unless you understand that the state wants
23:04
us to be helpless demoralized and vulnerable
23:07
They are intentionally flooding our country with criminals
23:09
and then punishing us If we
23:11
do anything to protect ourselves from the wave
23:14
of criminality that they have invited into our
23:16
lives and onto our properties Now
23:18
they're going after just about anybody who has the audacity
23:20
to take any steps to protect themselves They
23:23
want to terminate the right of self-defense in addition to
23:25
your property rights That's what's going on
23:28
in its heinous And
23:30
somehow even more terrifying judging by the fact
23:32
that a juror somehow wanted to convict kelly
23:34
on those facts Is that
23:36
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23:39
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a report from Breitbart. Anti-Israel protesters
24:52
involved in an encampment at Columbia
24:54
University took over an administrative building
24:56
early on Tuesday morning. Video footage
24:58
posted to X showed anti-Israel protesters
25:01
carrying barricades into Hamilton Hall an academic
25:03
building on the university's campus and
25:05
its telegram channel within our lifetime. Palestine
25:09
posted an announcement
25:11
calling for protection of the anti-Israel encampment
25:13
on the campus. The group
25:15
wrote student organizers have called on
25:17
everyone to come to Columbia tonight and
25:19
defend the encampment after administrators threats this
25:21
morning. Other videos posted to X showed anti-Israel
25:24
protesters smashing the glass doors of Hamilton Hall
25:27
as people can be heard chanting disclose divest
25:29
we will not stop we will not rest.
25:34
So they've invaded the building and
25:36
that's that's the next step. You
25:40
know this is tough for me because I
25:42
feel very conflicted. On
25:45
the one hand these people are
25:47
not protesters at
25:49
this point and
25:52
they're breaking the law. They've set up multiple illegal
25:54
encampments. They set up an illegal encampment. It was
25:56
taken down. They set up another one. They're
26:01
vandalizing property. They're trespassing. They're
26:03
invading private buildings where they don't belong
26:05
and they have no right to be. These
26:08
are spoiled, entitled Ivy League rich kid
26:10
brats who deserve to be locked up
26:12
in prison and have their college careers
26:15
and their future careers destroyed because of
26:17
it. That's what they deserve.
26:19
These are people who have never been held accountable in their lives
26:23
for anything and they
26:25
need to be. I would
26:27
take immense joy in seeing
26:29
them held accountable because that would be justice
26:32
and I quite enjoy justice. I
26:35
find it very pleasing on
26:37
the rare occasion that it actually happens. So
26:39
that would be great to watch and it's what they deserve. And
26:42
moreover, they're
26:44
fashioning themselves as radicals and revolutionaries. But
26:46
as I said yesterday, they
26:48
aren't. They can't be because they share the
26:51
ideology and worldview of the powers that be
26:53
in our culture. They share
26:55
that they are
26:57
proponents of and disciples of the
26:59
dominant ideology in our culture, which means that
27:01
you can't be a radical,
27:04
you can't be revolutionary. They are
27:06
fully products of our cultural institutions.
27:09
They are. It's it's it's henchmen.
27:12
It's brainwashed sheep. And
27:15
now they're pretending to protest and
27:18
stand up against the man or
27:20
whatever only because the man
27:22
has given them this little space here
27:24
to play pretend like
27:26
the man is standing by and watching and patting
27:29
their heads and saying, oh, very good.
27:32
Aren't you a aren't you a bunch of cute
27:34
little revolutionaries? I mean, they literally
27:36
have professors on at
27:38
the school are are with them are joining with
27:40
them. So it's like who are you even protesting
27:43
at this point? So
27:46
it's all fake. And I think it'd be
27:48
good for them to be introduced to reality in
27:50
a in a just in a just way. But
27:53
on the other hand, these Ivy
27:55
League institutions are currently destroying themselves.
27:59
And I love to see that. too. So
28:01
if Columbia wants to completely torch its
28:04
credibility, well, then okay. So
28:07
go for it. So
28:11
that's like, on one hand, I'd like to
28:13
see the encampments torn down, police come in,
28:15
arrest them, drag them away, order
28:17
and calm restored. So you'd like to see
28:19
that as someone who's a proponent of
28:21
law and order. I would,
28:24
that's normally what I would want to see. But
28:27
this is happening on Columbia University. Columbia University is
28:29
allowing it to happen. They
28:32
could easily stop it to be very easy
28:34
to do. Very, very simple. Not a hard
28:36
thing. It's not a difficult, it's not a
28:38
difficult quandary they're in. So they could easily
28:40
put a stop to it, but
28:42
they're too afraid to. And so they're
28:44
allowing themselves to be destroyed. And
28:46
I guess if
28:49
that's what they want to do, that's what they want to do. Where does that leave
28:51
us? I guess with the fact
28:53
that there's no one here to root for. And
28:57
that's it. So we'll go ahead. Just
29:00
let them fight. Here's
29:03
a headline from the Daily Mail. This is what they put on
29:05
Twitter. Four
29:07
teenagers, including high school football star aged
29:09
14 to 16 are killed in horror
29:11
crash after cop cruiser used pit maneuver
29:13
to stop them speeding at 111 miles
29:15
an hour as
29:18
horrifying photos show their mangled
29:20
wreckage. Okay. So this
29:22
one went viral yesterday on social media. This is what they're,
29:24
this is what they're
29:26
leading with the Daily Mail is and other media
29:28
outlets. Four teenagers,
29:30
high school football star killed
29:34
because a cop used a pit maneuver. And
29:37
this is all you're meant to read about when it comes
29:39
to this case. And it's
29:41
all that many people did read, which is
29:44
why this story, I mean, well, this,
29:46
this one sentence summation of a
29:49
certain aspect of the story provoked
29:51
a lot of outrage yesterday towards the
29:53
cops. And
29:56
as, as, as it was
29:58
intended to do, of course, but Let's
30:00
do the thing we're not supposed to do, which is
30:02
click on the article. And well, they want you
30:04
to click. They do want the clicks, but they don't want you to actually
30:06
read the whole thing. So
30:08
let's do that. Let's read the whole thing with
30:10
a few paragraphs. Okay. Four
30:14
Florida teenagers have been killed after they were involved in
30:16
a police chase in which officers used a maneuver designed
30:18
to get a car to stop, but caused them to
30:20
spin out of control. The
30:22
four who were between the ages of 14 and
30:24
16 attended Newberry High School in Bradford County. Two
30:27
of the teens in the car died at
30:30
the Waldo area scene while the other two
30:32
passed away from their injuries days after the
30:34
fact that UF Health Shands Hospital in Gainesville,
30:36
Gabrielle Cheavers and Lawrence McClendon Jr. were
30:39
both Newberry High School students. McClendon was
30:41
a sophomore defensive back for the football
30:43
team. The Cline family have set up
30:45
a GoFundMe to help cover funeral expenses. The
30:47
police pursuit began after an SUV was reported to
30:49
have been stolen out of Gainesville. Only
30:52
hours after the theft, the car was detected by a license
30:54
plate reader. They tried to
30:56
stop the car. They sped away 111 miles an hour. Eventually,
30:58
the state troopers were
31:03
called in. Authorities later added
31:05
two of the teens that were killed in
31:07
an SUV were wearing ankle monitors while three
31:10
had active warrants. Some
31:12
of the occupants also appeared to be wearing ski masks.
31:16
Okay, so we
31:18
have, you know, you got to keep reading
31:20
to discover that these kids, these high school
31:22
football stars had stolen a car.
31:25
They were speeding at over 100 miles an hour. They
31:29
were wearing ski masks and
31:31
had ankle monitors. And they
31:34
had three active arrest warrants between them.
31:38
So the cops were not just trying to pull over an
31:40
SUV because it was had a broken
31:42
tail light or something. These were
31:44
delinquents out stealing a car while already
31:46
having a rap sheet despite being no
31:48
older than 16 years old. Now,
31:53
it's very sad that they died. I mean,
31:55
four kids died. It's a very sad thing. Of
31:57
course, it's sad. Anytime a kid dies, it's a terrible. tragedy.
32:01
I wish it hadn't happened. But
32:03
who is to blame here? You know,
32:05
the peanut gallery is blaming the cops. Who is
32:07
really to blame? Well,
32:11
a few different parties we can point to. Unfortunately,
32:13
we have to say that the teenagers themselves are
32:15
first and foremost to blame. I mean, they're the
32:18
ones who engage in this behavior. So
32:21
it starts there like it's, if
32:23
you don't steal a car and go
32:26
speeding 111 miles an hour, this doesn't
32:28
happen. So we've got to
32:30
start there. But I do believe
32:32
that the amount of
32:34
kind of moral guilt that you can assign
32:37
to a teenager is somewhat limited, because
32:40
these are kids and they've got
32:42
underdeveloped brains and as every
32:44
teenager does, they're impulsive, all these
32:46
things. So
32:48
where do you look next for blame? Well, next you look to
32:50
the parents. And I understand
32:53
that sometimes teenage boys can be rowdy, they
32:55
can be trouble makers, they can
32:57
do self destructive things, they can drive way
32:59
too fast in cars. I was
33:02
certainly guilty of that at their age.
33:04
But, you know, if your
33:06
son has an ankle monitor, and
33:08
an arrest warrant, and he's out
33:10
in a ski mask in a stolen car
33:13
involved in a high speed police chase, well,
33:17
then you have failed miserably as
33:19
a parent. I mean, that
33:21
you have to go out of your way to be
33:23
that bad as a parent. You
33:26
that that's just and
33:29
so that that's where you look. You have to parent
33:33
your kids, give them some guidance, give them
33:35
some direction. If you don't, this is the
33:37
real, this is the harsh reality.
33:39
If you do not teach your
33:41
kid about
33:44
consequences, they will
33:46
learn another way, they
33:48
will learn the hard way, and sometimes it'll be a
33:50
very, very hard way. But it will be learned because
33:54
consequences are coming regardless. You
33:57
can either introduce consequences to your child. It
34:00
controlled safe. Loving. Environment
34:02
of the home. Or you can let the world do
34:04
it. And
34:06
the those parents let the world do it.
34:08
and if but if you let the world
34:10
teach your kid about consequences your he will
34:12
not like. The. Way that lessons
34:15
taught. And.
34:17
Because. That's the thing. consequences that that's the
34:19
one thing you can't escape and life eventually
34:21
they come. The comparable to me this
34:24
is like this is science right of Newton's third
34:26
law. For. Every action there is a reaction.
34:28
I met applies to human behavior as much as
34:30
applies to physics. And I'm not. I'm not talking
34:32
about some kind of buddhist karma thing. I'm I'm
34:35
not in Tacoma. Divine judgment. Although that is the
34:37
ultimate consequence that we all will face. What I
34:39
mean is that. If. You
34:41
don't teach your kid about consequences. Then.
34:44
The consequence of that's failure.
34:47
Is that? Your. Kid will
34:50
become the sort of person who doesn't
34:52
understand consequences. And
34:54
and will act in the kind of
34:56
way that people with that money misunderstanding
34:58
act. And. And a
35:00
consequence of that. Will. Almost certainly
35:03
be horrified. And often fatal.
35:06
As a was here. So that's where
35:08
the blame goes. To.
35:10
The parents. Unfortunately, I'm. What
35:13
about the cops? Like. Lots of
35:15
people have said it. The cops should not have
35:18
done the pit maneuver days. The doing a pin
35:20
louvered to stop apart don't hundred miles an hour
35:22
is is. Almost certainly going to kill the
35:24
occupants of the car. And.
35:27
That's been a criticism, but. What? Else would you
35:29
have the cops do. Anything about you?
35:31
You have a car going on. Hundred miles an hour.
35:34
It's stolen. The
35:36
cops can either. Do everything they can
35:38
to stop the car. Or.
35:40
They could just let it go. Vegan.
35:43
Or okay, well, and what does, so
35:45
if you? So basically we're announcing that.
35:48
If. You if you commit a crime he still a car to
35:50
do anything. As. Long as you drive.
35:53
ill over sixty five miles an hour away from the great
35:55
seen a the crime you automatically get away does not going
35:58
to chase not going to try to stop I
36:00
mean, that's what people that's honestly
36:02
what some people want. They say the cops
36:04
should not engage in high speed chases. It's
36:06
dangerous So what you're saying is
36:08
like once someone gets in a car,
36:10
they can just go. All right. See you later Well,
36:16
and what happens if they do that well, I mean
36:19
leaving aside the concern that you're just letting people get away with
36:21
crimes Well
36:24
Now you have a stolen car speeding down
36:27
the road Going for a
36:29
joyride at potentially triple digit
36:31
speeds With
36:34
the people inside it wielding this
36:37
5,000 pound weapon this massive metal
36:39
battering ram and What
36:42
happens if and when they crash into another motorist
36:44
on the road What
36:47
happens when they T-bone a minivan with the with a
36:49
family inside and kill everybody inside it what happens then?
36:53
Well, then the cops have just sat by and
36:55
watched as an entire family was
36:57
killed and then we blame the cops for
36:59
that So they can't win Either
37:02
they stopped the car and
37:04
we blame them for how they stopped
37:07
it Or they don't stop the car
37:09
and we blame them for whoever the teenagers kill as
37:11
a result of them not stopping it So
37:13
it's a lose-lose as always for the cops. There's no way
37:16
This is no matter what they do They
37:20
probably lose Which is
37:22
why they did the right thing. I mean, it's sad that the
37:24
kids died it is But if you're stealing a car and going
37:26
100 miles an hour You
37:31
know You're putting lives at
37:33
risk And it needs to
37:35
be your own life. That's at risk. Not anybody else's
37:40
And if anyone is going to
37:42
die as a result of that decision it
37:44
should be you and not and not anyone else
37:47
on the road So
37:50
you need to be stopped whatever the cost is to you So
37:53
that there is not a cost to
37:55
some innocent third party that is not involved in this
38:01
I think that's the way you have to break it down. All
38:04
right. You know, if
38:06
it were somehow possible to harvest and
38:08
harness a moment of cringe, and
38:11
then convert the cringe energy into
38:13
a weapon of some kind, a
38:16
bomb, let's say, a cringe bomb,
38:18
then I think this moment right here could
38:21
be made into a bomb 100 times more
38:23
powerful than the one we dropped on Hiroshima.
38:26
This is beyond like nuclear-grade cringe.
38:28
It really is. I
38:31
it took me three tries. This is
38:33
a 20-second clip. It took me three tries to watch
38:35
it because the first
38:38
two times I had to turn it off. I had to
38:40
turn it off. I got 15 seconds and I couldn't make it. First
38:42
time was 10 seconds, then I made it 15 seconds. Then
38:45
I finally made it to the end. It's very, very difficult. I'm
38:47
telling you. And
38:49
this is what happens when you take two
38:51
of the cringiest humans on Earth, Kamala
38:54
Harris and Drew Barrymore, and
38:57
you put them together on
38:59
camera, on
39:02
a couch. The
39:05
cringe that will result will be, well, it'll be
39:07
exactly like this. Watch. I've
39:10
been thinking that we really all need a
39:12
tremendous hug in the world right now. But
39:15
in our country, we need
39:17
you to be mamala of the country. That's
39:35
bad. I told you. I warned you.
39:37
We need you to be mamala of the country. My
39:40
God. Now, I do have
39:42
to say Kamala's reaction
39:44
there. And if you let it
39:46
go a little bit, a few more seconds longer, you'll
39:48
see like her reaction was I
39:52
don't know what she said after this, but her reaction in the
39:54
moment. It
39:56
was pretty good. She
39:58
reacted like a relatively normal reaction. normal person to
40:00
such a bizarre comment, because Drew
40:03
Barrymore says, we need you to give us a hug
40:05
as a pemamala of the country. And
40:07
Camilla says, Yeah, okay. I mean, I
40:10
mean, okay. I
40:12
mean, yeah, all right. What else do you say
40:14
to that? I don't know what you say. Well, I you know,
40:16
here's what I wish. Here's what I wish. I
40:18
see these clips of the Drew Barrymore show. I wish
40:21
one of her guests would just say to her, Hey, can
40:24
you like back off? First of all,
40:26
what give me some personal space? Okay, there are two couches
40:28
here. Why are you not sitting on that couch? Isn't that
40:30
what this is supposed to I've been on I've been on
40:33
talk shows before? What are you sitting right next to me
40:35
on the same couch? Like
40:37
this is like if I if we're going to
40:39
eat lunch or
40:41
something in a professional environment, like a work
40:43
lunch, and we're sitting in a
40:45
booth and you come over to sit on the same
40:47
side as me on the same booth. You don't
40:50
do that. I don't know you that well, what are you doing?
40:53
So stop making this so awkward. Like
40:55
there are people watching what do you why are
40:58
you trying to make me uncomfortable? I came to your show.
41:00
Now I wish somebody
41:02
would would say that that'd be a nice thing to say. But
41:05
the most ridiculous thing here. Aside
41:08
from how cringy it is in general to ask
41:10
a politician to give the country a big hug
41:13
and be our mom. Aside
41:16
from that, of all
41:18
the people to say that to
41:21
Camilla Harris is the last
41:23
one. She is the
41:25
least qualified for the
41:27
role of national mom, not that I think
41:29
it's a role that anyone should necessarily be
41:32
filling. But I mean, it honestly it would
41:34
make I know this sounds this sounds like an exaggeration,
41:37
but it would make more sense to
41:39
ask Hillary Clinton to be America's mom
41:41
that would make more sense. At
41:44
least Hillary Clinton, she has a kid. She,
41:47
you know, Harris doesn't even have children.
41:50
Hillary Clinton has just plus Hillary could be you
41:52
know, she could be kind
41:54
of America's evil stepmom.
41:57
So she does give off a certain maternal energy.
42:00
It's a very evil maternal energy, but if she
42:02
gives off the maternal energy of a mom who
42:04
like locks you up in the tower and you're
42:06
forced to befriend talking rodents because nobody will talk
42:08
to you, like she gives off that very Cinderella
42:10
vibe thing. And you may, and
42:12
maybe you can make an argument that there's times when America
42:15
could use an evil stepmom, I don't know. But
42:17
Harris doesn't even have that. Like
42:20
she gives off no mom vibes at all. Least
42:23
of all the warm, loving maternal vibes of
42:25
a mom who gives us all a hug.
42:28
Well, of all the emotions
42:30
and thoughts to experience when you see Camilla Harris
42:32
and listen to her talk, who would think to
42:34
themselves, I want her to give
42:36
me a hug, what? Drew
42:40
Barrymore, you might as well go to
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42:48
You might as well be talking to a
42:50
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42:55
Can you be the momnequin of the country and give us all a hug?
42:58
Like you lunatic, what
43:00
is wrong with you? How
43:02
does this person have a talk show? Camilla
43:06
Harris is totally empty. She's a completely hollow
43:08
person. Nothing to say,
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nothing to offer, no warmth, no
43:12
compassion, no wisdom, nothing.
43:17
She is so lifeless that she makes
43:19
Joe Biden seem vibrant by comparison. Which
43:24
by the way is like the only reason that she's still on the ticket. And
43:28
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43:30
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Never in a million years would I expect to
44:50
see Walsh be more defensive of a dog's life
44:52
than Knowles. That is a
44:54
twist. That's a twist. I know
44:56
Knowles went for full on defending
44:58
the killing of poor cricket. And
45:02
it is a twist because you expect like, if
45:04
someone told you ahead of time that a politician
45:06
would get in a lot of trouble for killing
45:08
a dog and one daily wire host would
45:11
be alone in defending the decision, everybody
45:13
would assume, you'd put all your
45:15
money in your bank account on betting
45:18
that it's me to be the one to do that. So
45:20
it is a little bit like to keep
45:23
you, I wanna keep you on your toes. I don't wanna always
45:25
be predictable. I'm predictable most of the
45:27
time, but I wanna, every once in a
45:29
while, I gotta veer off in a direction you
45:31
weren't expecting. Now
45:33
look, and it's
45:36
actually, there's a fair amount of comments actually defending
45:40
Noam on this. I'll
45:43
just read one other. Says,
45:45
everyone getting mad about the farm dog is ridiculous,
45:47
mostly because many states will put down your dog
45:49
if they kill livestock. If she didn't
45:51
cut her family that check, they'd
45:54
have full rights to have cricket put down anyways. Brain
45:56
dead arguments as always. Yeah, so look, First
46:00
of all, I don't
46:02
care that much at all. Like I don't,
46:06
and I think I made that clear when we talked about it
46:08
in the daily cancellation yesterday, that
46:10
of all the things to worry about right
46:12
now, of all the things to
46:14
be upset about, being upset
46:16
about a dead dog 20 years
46:18
ago on some ranch in
46:21
South Dakota, of all the
46:23
things to be actively angry about at
46:25
this moment in time, it
46:27
is insane that that makes anybody's top 10
46:29
list, much less would it, should it be
46:32
number one on their list for
46:34
multiple days as it was for plenty
46:36
of people, including prominent conservatives
46:39
who spent multiple days talking about it.
46:41
I'm on Twitter last night, and
46:44
there are still people making
46:46
their arguments. You know, I don't think that she
46:48
should have killed the dog for this reason. Like
46:50
we get it, we've heard it, we've heard it
46:52
by now. Everyone's posting pictures of their own dog.
46:54
That's my favorite. People posting pictures of their own
46:57
dog. Saying, I would
46:59
never kill my dog. Like, okay,
47:01
wait, what do you want us to get? What, you want a cookie? You
47:03
want us to give you credit for that? I
47:06
wouldn't kill my, like that's creepy, first of
47:09
all. That's just
47:11
an odd thing to do. Your
47:13
dog's probably pretty freaked out if he knew that you
47:15
were doing that. If
47:19
your dog could ask, like, why are you taking a picture
47:21
of me, oh, because I'm gonna post it online just
47:23
to show everyone that I haven't killed you. So
47:26
it's way over the top
47:29
and ridiculous. And it
47:31
doesn't, if I were to make a list of the things
47:33
that I care about right now and the issues that I
47:35
think should be top headline
47:38
news and should get everyone's attention, and
47:41
I were to make a list and a ranking, Kristi
47:44
Noem's dead dog 20 years
47:46
ago would not, the
47:48
list, you would get to number one million on the
47:50
list and we wouldn't even be close to
47:52
cricket making the list yet. With all
47:55
due respect to cricket, I'm sure cricket wasn't a
47:57
great dog. Well, apparently she wasn't a very good dog,
47:59
but. Even so, with all due respect to
48:02
the fallen, I would
48:04
not make the list. So, you
48:07
know, let's not get too bad out of shame. It's not like
48:10
I'm crying tears about it. However,
48:13
if someone asks me and presents it
48:15
as just an ethical question, do
48:18
you think like what are the circumstances where it's okay
48:20
to put down a dog? I think there are plenty
48:22
of circumstances where it's okay. And
48:25
then you tell me the specifics of this case and you
48:28
ask me to make a judgment call
48:30
and I'll say, yeah, probably not that. Probably
48:33
not. Probably not because of how young the dog was. And
48:36
it sounds like the dog needed more training.
48:39
And 14 months, now I'm not a dog expert. I'm
48:41
not a dog trainer. I don't
48:43
hunt with dogs. So, or
48:47
hunt at all, frankly. But
48:49
it seems to me that 14 months is a
48:51
little young for that. And
48:54
it's just more time needed to be put into training. Yeah,
48:59
I don't think it's necessarily ethically right to
49:04
kill an animal rather than put the proper
49:06
energy into training the animal. That's
49:09
how I would break this down. And
49:12
then after saying that, I will just move on with my
49:14
life and probably never think about it again. Because,
49:16
as I said, there are many
49:19
other things for us to be worried about right now. All
49:22
right. Speaking of truth says, I think
49:25
the fact that virginity is rising has more
49:27
to do with the toxic feminist movement than
49:29
porn. That
49:32
certainly is a major factor. I think
49:35
that there are, first of all, it's hard
49:38
to break it down. It's hard to separate all these
49:40
things all the time. And
49:43
as we've been talking about the rise in
49:45
male virginity, declining
49:47
birth rates, as we discussed to start
49:49
the show yesterday, there are many factors
49:51
that go into it. One of them that I mentioned was porn.
49:57
Specifically on rising male
49:59
virginity. Is is itself
50:01
one of the factors leading into the declining
50:03
birth rates it itself is not the only
50:06
factor and Then what is
50:08
the main factor leading into that factor? Well, I would
50:10
say that porn is the main one But
50:12
certainly not the only one Now
50:15
you you could point out as many people did in comments
50:17
that okay Yeah, porn is
50:19
a major factor maybe even be the main factor.
50:22
But why is it that
50:24
porn is so prevalent? Why is it that men
50:26
are? Turning to porn as much
50:28
as they are Well, then
50:31
then you can continue the conversation and we could talk about this
50:33
for hours and not reach the end of it and
50:38
feminism certainly has not helped or any
50:40
of this and Has
50:42
been not only hasn't helped but has
50:44
been a just a toxic
50:48
As you say toxic is the right word a poisonous
50:51
Degrading influence on the culture and just
50:54
about every respect to my mind But
51:00
the fact is that You've
51:04
got you know, I looked up a study we were
51:07
talking about this yesterday And
51:09
it it kind of changes depending on the
51:11
study you're looking at the one study I saw which I think
51:13
is a pretty conservative estimate Says that
51:15
the first first exposure to pornography for
51:17
children is 12 years
51:19
old now. I've read Eight
51:22
years old. I've read nine years old. I've read
51:24
ten So it kind of depends but let's just
51:26
go with that really concern the most conservative estimate,
51:29
which is let's say 12 still
51:32
12 years old and you've got Boys
51:36
at the age of 12 and and girls too
51:39
but more often boys That
51:42
are exposed to hardcore
51:45
pornography at the age of 12, which
51:47
which is something that just it
51:49
almost never happened prior to
51:51
the internet age Almost
51:54
never a 12 year old being exposed
51:56
to this kind of content would
51:58
almost never happen. And I know know that people
52:01
will say, Oh, what about what
52:05
about your kid finds
52:07
his dad's porn magazines?
52:10
People bring this up all the time. Like, first of
52:12
all, if your dad was leaving porn magazines around the
52:14
house, then your dad was was a
52:16
creep. Like that's, you know, I
52:19
did my dad wasn't looking at porn magazine, we didn't have
52:21
porn magazines in the house at all. I don't think that
52:23
that was all that common. If it
52:25
seems common to you, then that says something about the way that
52:27
you were raised, and you should be asking some serious questions about
52:29
the way you were raised. But,
52:32
but even with that, like, that would be
52:34
the only real circumstance where
52:37
a child will be exposed to anything like this.
52:39
And that was not nearly as common. And
52:43
most of the time, the images that
52:45
they if they were exposed to anything,
52:47
the images would not be would not
52:49
be anything like what kids are exposed
52:51
to now. And also
52:53
just the ubiquity of it. It's so
52:55
pervasive. It's everywhere. The other thing too,
52:58
also with with pornography is that yes,
53:01
you've got millions of people that are seeking it out every
53:03
single day, and spending hours every
53:06
single day consuming
53:08
hardcore pornography. Which
53:11
again, prior to the internet, internet age, even
53:14
if some even if an adult was subscribed to a magazine,
53:17
like they were not they
53:20
probably were not spending hours
53:23
every day with pornography, it
53:25
just wasn't enough of it. But
53:29
the other thing too, is that again,
53:32
prior to the internet age, you
53:35
also would there was almost no
53:38
scenario where you would be accidentally
53:40
exposed to pornographic
53:42
images. It
53:44
would be it's hard to imagine
53:47
a scenario where that would happen, that where you
53:49
would accidentally you would have to seek it out,
53:51
or put yourself in a position in
53:53
a situation where you might encounter it. But
53:57
these days, like anyone on social media, you
53:59
can go on Twitter. And
54:01
anyone could go to Twitter, any kid can go on Twitter
54:04
and just scroll down a newsfeed and see
54:07
explicit pornography just pop up.
54:12
That's how pervasive it is. And
54:16
we could talk about other things too, but there
54:18
is no conversation about declining birth
54:21
rates, male virginity, male loneliness, the
54:24
decline in marriage, all that. There is no conversation
54:26
about that sort of thing that
54:30
can skip over this factor of
54:32
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55:23
daily cancellation. There's
55:30
another one of those headlines that starts out crazy and
55:32
then gets even more insane somehow as it goes on. Here
55:34
it is from the New York Post. Daily
55:37
showers are purely performative and have
55:39
no real health benefits. Experts
55:42
insist. So, you know,
55:44
you're in for a treat whenever the experts show up. The
55:47
headline ends with the phrase experts
55:49
insist or experts say. You
55:52
can be sure that whatever preceded it is completely
55:54
bonkers. And this time the experts are on the
55:56
scene to discourage us from being
55:59
hygienic. And why? I
56:01
mean, what is their argument against bathing yourself?
56:04
And in what way is a shower performative? Like
56:07
I've never thought of myself as performing while
56:10
taking a shower, but I guess that's what
56:12
you expect me to say as one of
56:14
those phony pandering grifters who
56:16
takes showers. Already we
56:18
could tell that there's, you know, the experts might
56:20
be engaged in a little bit of post hoc
56:22
rationalization here. We could probably assume that
56:24
these experts were made fun of in school for having
56:26
bad BO, and they eventually
56:28
came up with this justification. I
56:31
don't stink, I'm just authentic. Showers
56:34
are performative anyway, you frauds, you frauds
56:36
with your showers. Or
56:38
perhaps I'm being unfair. Maybe they have a reasonable
56:41
case to make. So let's be open-minded and
56:44
let's keep reading. Experts say the
56:46
daily shower has no proven health benefit
56:48
dismissing the dowsing as a socially accepted
56:50
practice geared towards staving off accusations of
56:52
funkiness. As A-listers from
56:54
Jake Gyllenhaal to Mila Kunis admit they've
56:57
been saying no to the nozzle. Quote,
57:00
why are we washing? Mostly because we're
57:02
afraid somebody else will tell us that
57:04
we're smelling. Environmentalist Danakta McCarthy tells the
57:07
BBC, the prostitute state author only hoses
57:09
off once per month to help the
57:11
environment. A lifestyle choice inspired by
57:13
spending two weeks in the Amazon with
57:15
the indigenous Yano Mami tribe, he
57:18
said. So as you get
57:20
that, this guy has picked up
57:22
his personal grooming habits from a primitive jungle
57:24
tribe in the Amazon. That's
57:26
like telling us that your perspective on
57:28
dental hygiene was transformed by spending a
57:30
week in London. Like if anything,
57:33
it should have the effect of making you more
57:35
inspired to be hygienic. I myself have had a
57:37
brief encounter with the traditional tribal culture. And
57:40
I will tell you that, and
57:42
they were very welcoming and it was quite wonderful in
57:44
many ways, but I
57:46
never appreciated a shower so much as the one
57:48
that I took when I got home
57:50
from that experience. And by
57:53
the way, primitive tribes, they don't bathe very
57:55
often, but it's not because of some deep
57:57
ancestral knowledge of hygiene, it's because, first of
57:59
all, all, they don't have running water. And
58:02
second, they don't really know much about germs
58:04
and bacteria. So the lack of showers comes
58:06
purely from a place of ignorance and deprivation,
58:08
not something we really want to emulate in
58:10
the first world, I would think. But
58:12
anyway, continuing, it says, quote, every
58:14
other morning, McCarthy told a reporter he
58:16
opts instead for a wash at the sink, using a
58:19
cloth to give his body a good scrub. And
58:21
while abstaining from daily showers might seem
58:23
like antisocial behavior, medical experts are inclined
58:25
to lean toward agreeing with earthy types
58:27
like McCarthy, saying that the
58:29
moderate obsession with cleanliness can actually be hazardous to
58:32
one's health. Manhattan dermatologist Dr.
58:34
Julie Rusack previously told the
58:36
Post that prolonged daily showers could strip
58:38
away the skin's microbiome, which plays
58:41
a role in protecting the skin is also extremely important in
58:43
overall health. chemist David
58:45
Whitlock was so adamant about preserving this
58:47
dermal barrier that the bathing abstainer didn't
58:50
shower for 12 years.
58:53
disgusting, instead opting to
58:55
spray himself with good bacteria. When
58:58
asked about addressing critics, he told Vice, tell
59:00
anyone who mocks you that they're
59:03
betraying profound ignorance of the skin
59:05
microbiome, and then walk away. Well,
59:08
yes, we might be ignorant of the skin
59:11
microbiome. But the bigger problem, David is that
59:13
you smell like ass. That's, that's really the
59:15
issue here. But good. Yes,
59:17
please walk away. Please that part, please do.
59:21
Now, so far, I haven't read anything that persuades me
59:23
to stop showering. But you know, maybe we haven't read
59:25
far enough. So let's just go through a bit more
59:27
here. In 2021, researchers at Harvard
59:29
found that 66% of Americans shower every day.
59:32
Well, 2005 report claims that
59:34
it's common for Brits to shower once or
59:36
twice per day. The
59:38
Brits are showering more often. I don't believe it.
59:40
I don't know. I watched their brush in our
59:42
teeth more often. We wash
59:44
our bodies so much that much more did than
59:46
we did in the past. Dale Suddenton professor of
59:48
sociology of consumption at the University of Bristol, who
59:51
co authored the report told the change
59:53
has mostly come about over the past
59:55
100 years and it was not planned. In fact, it seems
59:57
to have happened almost accidentally. Experts
1:00:00
have chalked up this phenomenon to the increasing
1:00:02
prevalence of showers, which became common in
1:00:04
US homes circa the 1920s and in their across
1:00:07
the pond counterparts in the 1950s. We
1:00:09
don't shower because of health. We shower because it's a normal
1:00:12
thing to do. Throw in the societal stigma of not showering.
1:00:15
It's no secret people are irrigating their
1:00:17
epidermis on the ring. Sally
1:00:21
Bloomfield honorary professor at the London School
1:00:23
of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine claimed that
1:00:26
people shower every day because it's, quote,
1:00:28
socially acceptable. Okay.
1:00:30
A few things here. First
1:00:33
of all, if I was dictator of the country,
1:00:36
then any news publication that used a phrase like
1:00:38
on the reg in its journalism
1:00:40
would be forcibly disbanded and all of
1:00:42
its employees would be imprisoned for life.
1:00:45
Second, speaking of people who should
1:00:47
be imprisoned for life, I am horrified to learn that according
1:00:49
to one study, 34% of
1:00:51
you are not showering every day. You
1:00:55
dirty, smelly freaks. Third,
1:00:57
as I read this article, I was expecting that
1:00:59
it would all come around to the experts claiming
1:01:02
that actually, if you don't shower for five months,
1:01:04
eventually your body adjusts and you won't smell like
1:01:06
garbage anymore. I thought that they would get around
1:01:08
to making some kind of dubious claim like that,
1:01:10
but no. Instead, they
1:01:12
seem to be admitting that yes, you will stink and
1:01:15
that's supposed to be okay, apparently.
1:01:17
You should just like get back to
1:01:19
stinking, back to the good old days
1:01:21
of everyone smelling like wet dogs all the time. And
1:01:24
their whole argument is that, well, the only
1:01:26
reason people shower every day is because of
1:01:28
the social stigma of giving off the stench
1:01:30
of an overheated Porta John. That's
1:01:32
the only reason they claim. Well,
1:01:35
no, that's not the only reason. There are other
1:01:37
reasons. There are plenty of health benefits to washing
1:01:39
the dirt and grime off your body. But yes,
1:01:41
it's true that beyond all that, and maybe before
1:01:43
all that, there is the fact
1:01:45
that we want to fit into society. We want to
1:01:47
be normal people. We want to be pleasant for others
1:01:49
to be around and therefore not stink. That's true. And
1:01:53
that's good. It's good to want to be normal in that way. It's
1:01:55
good to want to be a pleasant, welcome sort
1:01:57
of presence in the room rather than a foul,
1:01:59
reeking disgust. See,
1:02:01
these experts, they treat the desire for
1:02:03
normalcy and social cohesion as some kind
1:02:05
of great evil. They
1:02:08
point at us in an accusatory way and
1:02:10
they say, you people, you only take showers
1:02:12
so that other people don't vomit from your
1:02:14
stench whenever you walk into the room. Well,
1:02:18
yes, I mean, that's a big part of
1:02:20
it. We don't want
1:02:22
to be the objects of revulsion to other
1:02:24
human beings. It's good for
1:02:26
us to not want that. It's good
1:02:28
for us to take steps to avoid being that. That's
1:02:32
what it means to be a functional member of human
1:02:34
society. Now,
1:02:36
look, there are plenty of criticisms you could make of
1:02:38
modern culture, plenty of downsides you could
1:02:40
list. But the expert class
1:02:43
is in a constant state of warfare against the
1:02:45
aspects of modern society that are by far and
1:02:47
away the best. The things that
1:02:49
are nearly all upside and no downside,
1:02:51
air conditioning, indoor plumbing, beef
1:02:53
products, modern hygiene. That's
1:02:56
all the best stuff. That's
1:02:59
stuff that's inarguably, it makes your life
1:03:01
better and more enjoyable and increases your
1:03:03
happiness and wellbeing. And
1:03:06
these are precisely the things that they want to take from
1:03:08
us until we're eating the
1:03:10
bugs and living in the pod, greasy
1:03:12
and unwashed so
1:03:14
that the pod smells like a hippie commune. This
1:03:17
is the life they want for us. And it's
1:03:19
why the anti-showering experts are
1:03:22
today canceled. I'm
1:03:24
new for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks
1:03:26
for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Bye.
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