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personality roy masters roy
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is just a one of the great characters and rugby league
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a and of course the couch that iconic western
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southern saw it in the late seventies ahead
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players like lives boy dallas donley coloradoan
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i guess when they are guarantee of people this
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is going to be entertaining enjoy
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roy
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that is good to see a good as a job
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i havent couldn't really you're
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not tell you what might what big difference to me i had
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last year i were in time there
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the amalfi on and on had the
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knee reconstruction replacements
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ross
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and it's just turn
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the offer and i can walk miles
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now and
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that really look as much like an old man
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is i wanted by
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rote we can't have off everything
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and everything saw female roy
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that was family
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what am i obligated like the of family
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of high achievers brother chris of course award
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winning iconic journalist a
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and the water
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documentary maker
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the radio show in los
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angeles yep i quit in london
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bus will produce as soon as dry until
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the sun producer then roy once
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coast above eric rapidly so it's really
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grown up with we you the odd one out loud
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illness and therefore saddam had to title
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fairly conventional ,
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in a gun at the university and and
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my he showed you got a job and you gotta remember
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do that sir ian i it's on file at university
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be closer that could be a year
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out of your income the diagonal is so
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i sort of came to the media
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pretty light after football is
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where is have where i only other one started
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that way rugby league household
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rules now it was a soccer households
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onto a large extent as far as my father
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was concerned but we will brought up on the north test
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new south wales and so
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rugby league was was the guy and we're all
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of a slob rugby lose it was was the
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game of choice on the north as new south
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wales and he has a nigerian plywood
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semites
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you're playing career or very limited
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the allies two of us now
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will will to university apply the but rugby
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union their arm and then went
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to time with high school and quickly discovered
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the nose far better i would tell
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as a teacher and five minutes challenges
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as a coach of wire mail
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yeah he took over as
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soon as social coast nine seventy
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the and
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some of the most iconic knives durability
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say it
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dory
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there's boyd xeon plan the
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great dallas donley
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that you've got a bloke with this of a strange lucy
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whiny and surname call tom
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ridge on a kiss we run
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through the sword like a jock forsee john
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door
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that may well as to what she was a kid
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who's just a beautiful play or my steve
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rogers
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very deceptive in is running and i read me
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a glide along the failed and
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you'd think guys not going fast at all
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but he just we just glaad
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past everybody he was is
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, talented player for a young
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lives go as they would what was
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the one of my favorite characters my body
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i just know he went away with england with me and on
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a semi do we had we not
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a bomb
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the was all my friends
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that you can say right from the start
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that he was he was after top
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of it as he was gonna be a terribly explosive
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playa so
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much so that when i first thing i did when i went the
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west side game is a hundred
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bucks and , told
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us as you gotta get this was boy is them into
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the monroe a guy be a hundred bucks
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to go and get in and
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of course on witness died less boys place
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judy cooks a big bike dinner lion a bit naughty
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a have signs right and back
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but he was asked me for the time
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hahahaha pillow by will be
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would sell was born in those days since
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i went with tommy odds are
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used to say tommy if
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we're if we're yet when the toss the
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going that
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was totally man whose so into
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an id on and off the civil war
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torn good dose that
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wasn't very talented, how many cantik left
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field field goals and it was
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originally at 5 is not banging time
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with he from so on you all
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getting pretty it very jealous, but mess,
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you can shoot me a message
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b big struggle with dallas keep him off
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place to you
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suffering badly from epileptic fits in
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the marbury can show him the more
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potentially had to have epileptic
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fits and i should said that
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why he drowned the bar and by
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people didn't
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know that, he's suffering from epileptic fit see
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if he had one in the stuffy golf
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about 7 big dump so save
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water and drowned in front
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of people that we're on the i my vote tossing man
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so he was very, very talented,
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but it, but a big challenge and it
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in the in the full-time professional
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era doubtless would have probably
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by 900 nine hundred thousand-dollar playa
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because, you know, you would have been
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able to him but united guys, i was
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trying to three times a week and
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try not to pop afterwards i
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saw it for the first time he
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comes with that is
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madonna
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have you seen have been a leader in school and tom
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have never seen a better inspirational later
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than tommy sometimes
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technically eighty technically
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eighty ah main
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infamous or a holly just go for it
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whereas sometimes is you know you
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sort of creating a little bit of our holds out
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hope that you'll do one more pleasant lap
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and up even more well
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tommy idris or bit of a glimpse of any guide
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for take a wall
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the earn tommy's respect know i never knew
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what he does he did austro awaited we have enough strider
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why we we got to trying to get there actually
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to dot lived printers he lives like down
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a hey lobbied very hard for me to get the job
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as a way where instant
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bomb there and it
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, all the way through rise
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until until two
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or three years be safe and these partner
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trish call me and she said you gotta come
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up to the gulf coast where we live
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ah he's is not last
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much longer and i went up there
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and i walked into the racy pick me up the airport
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walked in the remedy sitting there these had slumped
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and he just looked across and smiles and
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he said you're gonna die some time avenue nine
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i come on come on which so that guy
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we took him to the next guy
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we took him to see the last chance he
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had sought to live which was and
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him you know the a
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doctor who practice immunology when
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we go and
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it's yes sir no yes three bags full
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says it's on me and of the end
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of it all the doctor said we're going to put you on the straw
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or men walking outside and until the sitting
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there was chris went off to get
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the car to drive him off
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drawn basalt he'll
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be hell what happened in there is sometimes
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when you have facing a medical emergency you
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don't hear a thing fan so
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we with , walk
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through the whole conversation together
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almost as our budget
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the bible talking day going to debrief
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of the guy in her with this and
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, bond was
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in was lasting and
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borrowing to read we got two years
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out of him as a result of that image out of the
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cheap and sadly
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though i dove last year like
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losing some lawyer but not
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as bad as losing a sandwich i did though
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he and when he was fifteen years of age
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they're gonna die
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those swords
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most of anger i find it have any knowledge of
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which try and was straight
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of to the palazzo it's well we trying
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tuesday's or wise and then first
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nice and some dollar fraud i said i morning
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depending on where they had a sunday game or not
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but when i was always very conscious
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of affected that i all had significant
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ah jobs through the dime lot of i'm like
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was boy was a brick is librarian
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some , them were were trades
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is majority of them had dumb and
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hardline bring hardline and
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so consequently i didn't
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want to push them too push training but
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then again of course the that was
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the whole ethos of western suburbs in those
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eyes were set those might happen or
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member once on come on boys good
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are you far too much you know those the a top
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you can order a beer after ten o'clock
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or guy ten o'clock when what is dallas
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do at one minute as any or this ray scanners
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it oh come on vs
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had one minutes and sense anyway so
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some he picks up to them some
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down in the gutter and so had the
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railway until and you could say that
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black be able to use a drink to his old
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trickling down the gathering is is almost
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as a whole use that as a good father visa
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is anatomy or something just part
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of memory of rudeness story
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you spoke about when you had a young rookie
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called to relay of he came in just
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a hill by for western suburbs keyboard nutrition
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was the last
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yeah really wanted to do that for
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the guy when he saw get us has to heal pub and have
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twenty four current orange let's rush
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well , was towards the end of the not an idea
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and we were very to have a real shot
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running second or third very
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close to my premise and why
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i knew that because he donnelly plied like the
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before that it does say was gonna
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tory matter little bit towards
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, end because it's wasn't what i me at twelve
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week season but
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i call him in and in said now him
10:30
what just tell me what to do the said they are no
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criminal got a pub just will probably
10:34
a what flight will what else about diedrich because
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he didn't ring be in those days are
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vodka an orange family of i all
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that twelve before
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twenty chris anderson told me wants me wants to relax
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and he said whatever he did dive
10:49
for the i'm with
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this
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early opposite of what you do as far as for saws
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he said he couldn't trying to work has been nice
10:57
but the day before the game to go on a twenty
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or thirty minute run and he
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he chris anderson as just what i do
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the process that uses room
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yes just what you do to this issue
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of in the right way that comes obama should do
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it
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laura
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seventy i mistook were far right silver
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tiles
11:19
for the fi slapping roy how did
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that have been out of these apis that that the
11:24
cameras were in the shades i've got well
11:26
this is it this is so
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it was it was some right
11:31
arm martin was sixty
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minutes guys and a leap
11:36
is producer came to us and
11:38
we were doing so well i'm in er the west
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the year before and some last second last
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and they said they called
11:45
us a bit they said you guys have that ain't gonna
11:47
be on drugs to be doing so well as you are
11:49
and a and not was and
11:51
he said all yeah bugs to drop the
11:53
front of launch mean one thing applies
11:55
and he can say there's always rolling as
11:57
he reckons you're on drugs and was less boy i'm
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i'm not as he didn't like body drugs for a lot
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to routes and up on
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a member filming have been incensed as
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iti you , take your
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cameras anyway a lot for six weeks with
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amy want to do you just film
12:13
anything and so consequently they are in
12:15
the in the room at half time before
12:17
the match and it was one that was enzyme
12:20
lead commercial and was one was cold
12:22
miserable afternoons way apply
12:25
as walk in in they are
12:27
you know run on birds canadian
12:29
jackets united i don't want to play football
12:31
mega read rather be bag i'm watching
12:33
anything on same way in front of a for so
12:36
i said we had i said driver type dickman
12:39
or said di luca i don't play football
12:41
get i'm going when he was trained
12:43
in the martial arts so
12:46
we brought him offering to pay his and
12:48
thousand one that vices up and
12:52
, got out of control because i
12:54
think it was right brown on blaze boy
12:56
got stuck into which allowed to fall apart
12:59
apart it's on and on
13:02
i looked over at the tv cameras
13:04
on the red launch going on the moon can be the
13:06
wearing noise and
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member see them as so i knew enough
13:11
about the moody have been this the moody be
13:13
big news and
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so consequently about
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, of weeks later sixty minutes on
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the sunday night
13:22
the show goes to way and i showed
13:24
the fly slipping signs about three or four
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times
13:27
anyone the monday night following that
13:29
the regular meeting of and yourself well regulated
13:32
every club got up
13:34
on their site and lambasted
13:36
us for what we've done except
13:38
one club on ever read of forgot that
13:40
one club just sub shop set they
13:42
show up never said a word and
13:45
that was that george and when i
13:47
eventually made me an offer to go there are
13:49
no hesitation
13:50
funny watching vision ruined you can save
13:52
his get the couple of pleasant tommy in
13:55
particular this enjoying it clears
13:58
up of lysol yeah right now
13:59
alarm balance on the and rabbis
14:02
i decided joko when a lot
14:04
delays i do , it now
14:06
roy roy a big part of
14:08
rugby league his well i do regret it because
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it , define me ah
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i'm nine as a sort
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of the the arch motorbike are known the restaurant
14:19
when will mark the things that there was a lot of other things
14:21
that happened a technical changes
14:23
and pliers , out
14:25
of positions a you know winning
14:27
semifinals that that
14:29
a couch three catch the sort
14:31
of awards all would have liked the but now
14:33
i'm defined by that but at the same
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time a it
14:38
did too large explains an ethos
14:40
that existed in that magpies existed
14:42
tremendous amount of spirit and they had that they
14:45
they they were so determined to win
14:47
that they would rip into each other before a match
14:49
before they're ripping match opposition the
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vision sixty minutes it also
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shows no saudi my devices we've
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got the whole solder android and
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you're a and because you're a teacher
15:01
and your articulating the similarities
15:03
between people the with
15:05
severe than the oppressed israelites
15:07
in the bible and , could say
15:09
one forty couple of likes the not
15:11
exactly sure what you're talking about
15:14
what they are george well as gorgeous as i you know
15:16
roy this funny them as
15:18
far as silver sell stuff to go on with he
15:20
said the i believe it but unlike
15:22
myself believe a word out take a real quick
15:24
fry can be back to his roy
15:26
that year in syria is remarkable achievement
15:29
roy you pick him that day he
15:31
is a mana premise what
15:33
will you coaching philosophy as far as tactics
15:35
wicked to our ranking people significantly
15:38
under arrest of mine are now taking the ability
15:41
so we didn't mind didn't haven't been haven't mistake
15:43
only because that would then
15:45
distract then distract the i would immediately
15:48
lot of them are going to get square with him are going
15:50
to get square with that blood you know i wrote a
15:52
song by were pretty much intent on getting
15:54
square and and whereas we would just
15:57
as soon as a blue was over we wanted to move the boardwalk
15:59
so there was some beautiful draws scored
16:02
from moving the ball was and
16:04
i also found , dumb
16:06
we are lot of success ripping down the
16:08
blonde sought to which was very much and hundred
16:10
under utilized attacking women
16:13
in those dies down the block directly with big
16:15
toolbox like bobby cooper cooper
16:17
could dedicate tiger couple of offenders with
16:20
him and then slip the ball to ball
16:22
, wing and coming back inside
16:24
or the cruel irony
16:26
you can't beat em pension whatever
16:29
the arch rivals manly incredibly
16:32
sad poking applies poking applies
16:34
dory less boyd her hell
16:37
and right brown and right brown what state
16:39
was i in when i told you what
16:41
was your reaction will
16:43
all different arm
16:47
there's boy and ,
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to his house for dinner dinner
16:53
a two weeks two and
16:55
we went for this long long long long
16:58
and a it
17:00
he said to me
17:02
because listed off with the twenty five grand
17:05
off with he said what are your it's a fair price for
17:07
me to get a manly analysis forty if
17:10
i give you forty the fifteen might
17:13
that's big world exactly so
17:16
rewrite me up at school were also tied
17:18
to the dickstein he said they often be thirty and
17:20
on a , you beauty
17:23
beauty and he said now and tomtom
17:26
on on have to get forties to well i just
17:28
gave him the extra thousand stride why so
17:31
he's dried up absolutely
17:33
as honest as goodbye but
17:36
we were doing laps of the i will as catches
17:38
you to join the plaza in web to the i'm alone
17:40
on can remember the three
17:42
of them a drop back a little bit jaded
17:44
say them talking and
17:46
i had i had of a suspicion obviously
17:49
this was before lizard mighty
17:52
discussion with me and i member
17:54
fronting joke cool not on i wrote
17:56
not wrote not haven't certainly haven't
17:59
not
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anyway
18:01
the years robot thirty odd
18:03
years role by on a couple of years ago
18:06
just coming to melbourne and
18:08
he said the we catch we
18:11
had a couple of beers at the young and jackson
18:13
said tell and why to
18:15
go off to something and i said joe on knew
18:17
there was something the babies born as a jar
18:19
or are we gonna go to have one will be
18:21
that and then an all time it he
18:24
, roy when you ask me years
18:26
and years ago had or som a manly
18:28
and i said now a said our lives
18:30
he said that stuck in mccraw renaissance were
18:33
were said i have on discolored i just had
18:35
to give it out and so this is a confession
18:38
my thirty five forty years after
18:40
years the cruise cuddle what
18:43
you drive might john singleton into his printers
18:45
torrid on a kiss and grandma grad grandma guy
18:48
my granny but tommy
18:51
sunday you pinches him and take seem
18:53
to new tail roy how
18:55
did how did only imagine they'll marshall
18:58
tommy would have a when he told you what was your and
19:00
we had a blue
19:01
we had our driving into the city because
19:04
i vote we have already was on
19:06
forever and never think it's on with singer fun
19:09
with linguists and
19:13
so i drive him into the city and
19:15
i went to new set of wildly slept for a couple
19:18
of beers wall he went off to talk to
19:20
singer
19:21
he came back and it's all made
19:23
so i'm not sold on will either we
19:25
just here is off of and we
19:27
target away some get west of
19:29
matches or go close to
19:32
inside they showed me the bit of piper
19:35
whoa , hear that singer with
19:37
singers resources there was gonna be no legal
19:39
challenge to this we're we're
19:42
them og him and it sends his into
19:44
a bit of a sting sting on
19:46
the floor and kept have enough reason to come ever
19:48
falls ever as well as
19:50
that was not realize you're those days you're
19:53
, the end of an era
19:56
id to he join some george
19:59
dragons court
20:00
yeah great history iconic
20:02
club what a better the difference
20:05
between
20:06
during fundamental
20:08
, i underestimated the significant
20:11
difference between on the west guys with sort of
20:13
bonded are working class said george
20:15
was a totally different club that recently
20:18
one and two premise ships and seventy seven
20:20
and seventy and on on
20:22
a lot of them was goalies or
20:24
had significant white collar white so
20:28
you definitely had to a price of
20:30
in a totally different why on it took me took
20:32
me a good part of id to to
20:34
fundamentally understand the differences between
20:36
the two places as an odd often
20:39
side of myself or , or of
20:41
notice well look at western suburbs
20:43
when i slipped allotment make better at
20:45
st george was reverse i twelve
20:48
single honestly when
20:50
you when relief the all yeah yeah
20:52
and that's probably one of the reasons why i
20:54
died guy cutting away in the and
20:57
because when i did have an opportunity to
20:59
go elsewhere but those
21:02
two things at when stream i'm on one once
21:04
you catch the george abrasive pretty goal so
21:06
you know go somewhere else but
21:09
secondly the hallways
21:12
didn't last long enough and
21:14
the lows same to go on till the
21:16
end of the wake realize didn't disappear
21:18
until he had an ex
21:20
when
21:21
where's western suburbs
21:24
the lies probably
21:25
the gone by the first training session
21:28
up to the pub or guy quick break
21:30
him will wrap it up with roy masters try
21:34
the later at wis and the sin
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of places tommy who , you
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send a place player to the dragon sell
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that craig young yep yep
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was the anchor the club and continues to continues
21:45
rodman middle of failed be hard bloat
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like the tax type the took the ball up on
21:50
also was very gifted ballplayer
21:53
and don't forget i had him over there
21:55
and england way back in nineteen seventy two
21:57
when in nineteen that the streisand school boys
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came early
22:03
in his first year of regulate you went
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when shopping and you got this token
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were beautiful plays with john dory i'm steve
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rogers beautiful mover
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in wallaby cynical macula corner
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ah ma call it was your success
22:17
heady adept durability was durability
22:20
quickly or took alumina tom i
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, a little bit of time with mortal am
22:24
particularly in defense because we're applying
22:26
up a name and he was used to the rugby
22:29
and and slides form of defense
22:31
and lot of spades here to lose has to do
22:33
that that he was some on
22:36
a painless such a graceful
22:38
playa he was he
22:40
supplies of beautiful glowing
22:42
playa i'm about
22:45
of course he was targeted to pretty heavily in
22:47
defence am eager that eighty five
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grandfather five grandfather whacked within a few a
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early in the pace
22:53
and i played a lot of us can cost you
22:55
a tour of a great you if you eighty four
22:58
roy a w coach the and
23:00
it's just said my grandfather boots seven
23:02
six mm boy
23:04
read the chinese rule afterwards i just
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bombed it does into submission
23:09
in golden they see they chinese rule twenty four
23:11
minutes have demonstrated hurt lose my grandfather
23:15
the hood and heard significantly as a
23:17
probably that ever get over those
23:19
things the other problem that we had an id
23:21
five significantly was
23:24
talk about changing the rules i also changed
23:27
the rules on the laid up in modern times
23:29
a week or last round guy
23:32
we pride tambor available fifty points
23:34
and then you have the way golf then
23:37
replied cantabrian by them pretty comfortably
23:39
in the semi final thing you have another way
23:41
golf on the nigger the grand fall
23:43
so we had one hard game and
23:45
about five weeks
23:47
eighty seven you call it quits get any
23:49
explain the rules of what do you regret it
23:51
looking man i a nice little earner
23:53
things to do or i am
23:55
wanted to join the media and
23:58
right and even
23:59
nord things better woman sport which
24:02
i did zoo and the sydney morning herald
24:04
i'm very fortuitously for lay
24:06
off image of thoughts on
24:08
give you much satisfaction the journalism
24:11
as as as coaching to define
24:13
nothing beats that dressing
24:15
room two
24:18
or three minutes after a hard fought
24:20
with
24:20
nothing nothing but said
24:22
the only that your association with the melbourne
24:24
storm roy oh ,
24:27
the yeah melbourne storm on the sort of
24:29
the the old uncle that sits in that corner
24:31
and the boys come up inside tell me about
24:33
run around move roy and you know
24:35
when the assume that blacks are used to smoke
24:37
cigarettes have talked on the bed that now
24:41
i'm
24:43
i'm also a person that
24:45
source of pride gonna be quite a lot harm
24:47
me often doesn't agree with me because i'm
24:49
a bit of a a revelation rail i want
24:52
to see more
24:54
the game chinese throughout the cold the
24:56
guy i'm craig , that
24:58
by far the best cuts in i'm
25:00
on the moment and the greatest
25:02
technical catch the games in the same but
25:06
like a lot of the and are real conscious of
25:08
the moment that by can be very conservative
25:10
odds are just are sounding board for him
25:12
the waterline if she said roy
25:15
all the people in regular you've had some to
25:17
do with coast or whatever eat invite
25:20
one either
25:21
the new law the have a be with who to be no
25:24
to me tommy some a on a empted
25:26
the game up but thought that thought that somewhere else
25:29
in fact his ashes are like deniable would say
25:31
i spread along with there is
25:33
some herb live with your pc more
25:35
together in a retirement roy
25:38
the thing you most proud of a new regularly curry
25:41
probably the fact that
25:44
fact lot of pliers or wince
25:46
on to become internationals when
25:49
i was catching them
25:52
hum
25:53
maybe i took a couple of years after
25:55
i'm gone for them to become his vegetables
25:58
and so yeah
25:59
it's the
26:01
making like implies better
26:04
they have loved to they might be is ultimately
26:06
i'm a rapidly saying i love the history the guy
26:09
the really pressure really good on
26:11
your my family were any much i might
26:14
a very much the able i hope you enjoyed
26:16
that episode of other podcast
26:18
with the great roy masters great character
26:20
rules really good catch up with apes iran
26:22
to get satellite or in the of which i'll catch
26:25
up with the yes the family john
26:27
films my family and you stop semitism
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