0:00

Better than the Lego. Better than the

0:02

Lego. Matthew Johns is in position for

0:04

a long-range shot. He's with

0:07

it now, Matthew Johns. Here goes the kick from

0:09

Johns. Now,

0:11

Coops, often I reckon sometimes attitude

0:14

and desire is best illustrated by

0:16

the loose ball on the ground

0:18

scenario. Like, who's got the desperation,

0:20

who's got the desire to

0:22

come up with that ball, sometimes when there's feet in

0:24

the way, everything like that. And I just thought in

0:27

the first half, just on half-time,

0:29

happy Corusale. I think

0:31

that desperation and getting the loose possession typified

0:34

the Tigers' fight. And

0:36

then to get off the ground and then set

0:38

up and try two plays later, it

0:40

was pretty special. And it was sort

0:43

of significant because it was Corusale versus Hines.

0:46

The two best players of both teams, the

0:49

most influential players on the ground, ball is

0:51

on the deck, Corusale gets it, and Olam

0:53

scores, makes it 18-6 before half-time.

0:55

It's funny you say that because Mal

0:58

used to make us dive on loose balls in the

1:00

warm-up for Origen, captain's runs. He'd throw the ball around,

1:02

even if it's wet, he'd be like, dive on it,

1:05

get dirty, get down. So, yeah, he played a huge

1:07

part. And I thought, I

1:09

enjoyed watching the Tigers win. They're coming from

1:11

a low base, but they played a good brand

1:13

of footy, and I loved what

1:15

Corusale did. And Coop, look, last

1:18

year, when they were playing great

1:20

football in the middle of the season, they played like

1:22

they did the other night. They simplified

1:24

their attack, and they centralised the attack.

1:26

And they made the focal point of

1:28

the whole team, happy Corusale. You

1:31

know, happy, you know, his effort

1:33

through the middle of last year really was one

1:35

of the things that kick-started Luke

1:37

Brooks. And I thought, I just

1:39

thought the other night, I thought it was, I

1:42

don't think you'll ever see happy play a

1:44

better game. And I think the number one

1:46

indicator when the dummy half-players were was, I

1:49

think the front rowers do a good job.

1:51

Your middle forwards are dominant. I thought Utao

1:53

Kamano was good, Fano off the bench, and

1:56

they just added some spark. Yeah, Olimfi's first

1:58

game for the Tigers. Oh, you

2:00

see, it was brilliant. You're not all like a bad island,

2:02

is the fact that if, as

2:05

a defensive centre, he carries consequence.

2:08

So as you know, if you're a playmaker and

2:10

you're going to the line, there's gonna be consequences

2:13

if you make a bad pass decision to a

2:15

teammate. It could be really

2:17

putting you out, where you are putting your

2:19

teammate in harm's way. Yeah, I remember sort

2:21

of having that double look at someone like

2:24

Steve Maddow manly at different stages because they'll

2:26

get it wrong, but when they get it

2:28

right, it hurts and

2:30

it helps it. You make an enemy

2:32

of a teammate. Yeah, and yeah, the

2:34

ball player too, if you feel like

2:36

you're second guessing yourself, someone like Ollam,

2:38

just being super aggressive coming in and

2:41

it can actually stop for your attack.

2:43

So yeah, I thought he was good.

2:45

He was strong defensively, but he was even

2:47

better with the ball in hand. And I liked

2:49

the way Corisow plays is

2:53

he encourages everyone around him to play more direct.

2:55

Like I thought, Dureen Buller, like once the momentum

2:57

starts, he can pop up all over the field,

2:59

but he was willing to get behind that rock.

3:01

Aiden Caesar, even early in the game, after

3:04

he got forward, he took the following play and made

3:06

20 metres up through the middle. So

3:10

I thought Aiden Caesar was really good.

3:12

He was really polished, thought he kicked

3:14

well. Bullsey decision from

3:16

Aiden Caesar, so

3:18

he left the NRL after 2019,

3:21

goes overseas. COVID

3:23

hit the game changes a lot. When

3:26

he left the NRL, he wasn't

3:28

like an elite halfback game. He was solid. He

3:30

got Canberra to a grand final. And

3:32

then he comes back when the games changed a lot.

3:34

He comes back to the team that's got back to

3:36

back wooden spoons. And he

3:38

gets dropped the first week. Benjy

3:41

Marshall went with Sullivan in front of him, putting

3:43

Caesar on the bench, brings him in

3:45

for his first game to start. And

3:47

he did exactly what he was brought to

3:49

do. He kicked really well. He was the

3:52

organising half. He just took a

3:54

Young Lucky Galvan, created space for him. Durene

3:56

Bull was sort of in positions that he

3:58

needed to be. April

4:01

altogether flim. Do. Good things

4:03

for Benji is that

4:05

that stole a football

4:07

that better simplified centralized

4:09

fulfil. It's. Proven it works approved

4:11

last year it works and what had

4:13

a loss she was up at he

4:16

got injured and then suddenly brooks and

4:18

a seasons to wealth the rails straight

4:20

away again for these are the plenty

4:22

of and on at and and went

4:24

back to that style football that's the

4:26

formula scientists that that's very important thing

4:28

for Benji and and are a lot

4:30

of Santa Tigers when a loves sin.

4:32

This theme song but on Al Assad's

4:34

sailed the shots were bad brought me

4:36

up so. I. Want to talk

4:38

is gonna dirty off the bottom. A lot of

4:41

when I played teams that are bad is that

4:43

style of football when i got punched her pants

4:45

and trump like and service is that going to

4:47

be enough to beat The better teams are when

4:49

a lot of games to get them off the

4:52

bottoms dusted. Every the things events or know spies

4:54

coops is have have good you. Get.

4:56

At best stolen vehicle or is

4:58

it the doll with video so

5:01

stitch was too little white ago

5:03

he there is that for disliking

5:05

Mike that is I can really

5:07

become effective at that. Stole a

5:09

football fan because because what did

5:11

it but simplified to all of

5:13

football produced finalists or errors which

5:15

could far as pressure on the

5:17

defense and we've marvel what com

5:19

Penrith Iraq but sports their guy

5:21

without looking at all the cool

5:23

stuff Daschle to a very simple

5:26

approach and. They descend well they can

5:28

place or I cried. Victim game is a

5:30

late by duel that think every week and

5:32

then I can add the cool stuff on

5:34

top. So the Tigers signed a bill that

5:36

sound I suffer a lot longer for them

5:38

to and start adding some stuff on salt.

5:41

Thoughts are lucky Point Garcia is absolutely the

5:43

case. Coops. Cowboys. The Three now.

5:45

But. These elements of the

5:47

football which or see will be

5:49

concerning sleep tight and ah. Periods.

5:52

And they win over the dragons that the when

5:55

I was a dragon's. Ah, The.

5:58

the energy just completely whenever their

6:00

football, particularly defensively. There's a few

6:02

examples which you see. Firstly, the

6:05

Zach Lomax try, who was down

6:08

the Cowboys left-hand edge and defensively

6:11

there was some really poor decision,

6:13

like lazy decision-making and then Zach

6:15

Lomax goes across the try line.

6:17

Rather than keep in the corner, they just let

6:20

him saunter around under the post. I thought, you

6:22

know, the Sloan try, he's tried soon after. There

6:24

was only four plays at half field, you know,

6:26

there over the other side of the field not

6:29

pushing across and helping their mates. The

6:31

Kyle Flanagan try. It was, well

6:33

not a Kyle, but it was a pretty,

6:37

it was fundamental defensive error and then there

6:39

was one in the second half too. It's

6:41

just a little thing, just a little thing.

6:43

I think kick chase

6:45

and things like kick harassment sort

6:47

of measure where a team, what mood they're in and

6:50

Kyle funding got the ball after half the time

6:52

and he's about to put a kick in then

6:54

goes, oh hang on a second and just keeps

6:57

wandering after another 10 meters and puts in whatever

6:59

kick he wants. They're the things

7:01

that worry me about the Cowboys.

7:03

So do you worry enough that it's

7:05

a false reading of them,

7:07

that they're three wins top of the ladder? Coops,

7:11

I don't view it as a false. The

7:17

talent's there, they've got the player there, they've

7:19

got the roster. I just wonder, okay, what's

7:21

that attitude about? Is it, don't tell me

7:23

you're becoming one of those teams that go,

7:26

that's all right, we'll just

7:28

run you down later on because the elements of

7:30

that in the Newcastle game, they were really poor

7:32

in the first half, then they ran them down

7:35

the one in the game. But if they keep

7:37

getting into that habit, it'll start

7:39

to form like we've seen, like

7:41

we've said with South City. Yeah, I'm going

7:43

to put a lot of faith in the Cowboys. I

7:46

think they are legitimate this year and yes,

7:49

they've beaten some teams that probably aren't going to

7:51

be really high up on the ladder. But

7:55

listening to Scott Drinkwater talk after the game,

7:57

he is a... smart

8:00

footy player. He spoke about the four tries

8:02

that I conceded, he knew exactly what went

8:04

wrong, he knew the player that did wrong,

8:06

he knew exactly how to fix it and

8:08

said it won't happen again. And

8:11

we see all this beautiful play speed

8:13

long pass, this risk versus reward type

8:15

style from Scott. But if

8:17

your fullback thinks about that's how

8:19

the game was won and lost, I

8:21

think you've got a good mindset there.

8:24

I'll ask you then, Coops. Because

8:27

drinking sometimes he can

8:29

symbolise the Cowboys. He was flighty early on

8:31

in his career, flighty. And even like there's

8:34

been on the weekend he did a couple

8:36

of things and you're going yeah like Todd,

8:38

Todie Pape, must have been up in the

8:40

box going come on, drink it, focus. But

8:43

then in the next set

8:45

of six he'll do something just completely brilliant. Yeah,

8:47

because he was in the Melbourne Storm and he

8:49

was yeah he was in and out and loved

8:53

playing the up tempo

8:55

style and throwing passes left, right. But

8:58

when he came to the defensive side of the game like it

9:00

was a second thought but he's seen him

9:02

speak and the way that he's developed his game, I think

9:05

that's a hell of a play that the Cowboys

9:07

can build and put a lot of trust in.

9:09

So yeah, I get those examples of the tries

9:11

and I was like, oh, what's going on here?

9:13

This is like literally a shootout between

9:15

the Dragons and the Cowboys for the first half.

9:18

And the Dragons butchered that one try, the Cowboys

9:20

go down the other end, they get in front

9:22

and then that they run away with it, right.

9:24

So there was a moment there but I

9:28

got faith in them. I think they look

9:30

like they're going to be a big team this

9:32

year, the Cowboys. So the

9:35

thing about it is too, like

9:37

we often talk, we talk mainly about tactics

9:39

here and you can look sometimes and you

9:41

say, oh mate, they've

9:43

really got to adjust that focus.

9:45

This side probably needs another creative

9:48

player. When it comes down to

9:50

things like with talented football sides,

9:52

like attitude, I think sometimes

9:54

within the sides you go, oh yeah, that's just an

9:56

attitude problem, we'll fix that. But as we've seen in

9:58

the past with certain sides, is

10:01

that the longer it goes on the harder it is to

10:03

fix Coop. Yeah. And that's the

10:05

only thing that worries me, and I

10:07

think the Cowboys are absolutely capable of winning

10:10

this title. Yep. Very, very

10:12

talented young football side. And they look

10:14

fit this year. But

10:16

there's just elements of their football that we

10:18

saw last year, they got

10:20

them off to a slow start. That's little

10:22

bits of carelessness that weren't there the season

10:24

before. I'm pretty pumped about the

10:26

start of the season because going to the season, I

10:28

had some question marks around the

10:30

cows, the Warriors, can they do it again?

10:33

Manly and what happened to the Eels last year, and

10:35

it puts South in that bracket too. South,

10:38

well, they're on the slide and they're in

10:40

trouble. But those four other teams, the Cows,

10:42

Warriors, Manly, Eels, I've seen enough from

10:44

them this year so

10:46

far that they've got game. That Manly

10:48

Eels game was terrific. Great game.

10:51

It was back and forth. Yes, there's some

10:54

moments that both teams were like to head

10:56

over again and fix, but I saw enough

10:58

in both those teams in that game yesterday

11:00

and the start of the season that they're

11:02

in for a big year as well. Yeah,

11:04

the last two weeks, Junior Bolo coming off

11:06

the bench for Parramatta has changed the game.

11:09

Last week it didn't change the

11:11

game long enough for them to win, but it

11:13

gave them a big lift and it changed, absolutely

11:15

changed the game. That's a try assist for Moses.

11:17

He was out on the edge. He basically was

11:20

just telling Mitch to run through this hole because

11:22

I can off-float it for you. It

11:24

was brewing ball-playing from a big man. The

11:26

physical nature of the side too. A couple

11:29

of them, Bryce Cartwright hit Paoloie off the

11:31

kickoff. I went, who hit him? I went,

11:33

it's Bryce. Again, how far that is

11:35

away from what he was doing at the Gold Coast where

11:38

he's dandling hands out. The other one,

11:40

young Blaise Tuolangi, when he ran over the

11:42

top of Tom to try water power house.

11:46

You don't see Tom physically lose

11:48

a battle too often when in

11:50

and outside backs battle. Young

11:53

kids just hit him with everything out and bumped

11:55

him off. Just about like, to

11:57

be mainly here for a second. We

12:00

often times coupe, you've

12:03

got to be able to get in an arm wrestle. Set

12:06

to set, no errors, no errors,

12:08

no errors. And you

12:10

just sort of chip away like that and see your

12:12

brace first. I sort of, when

12:15

I was manly, there was a probably 20 to

12:17

25 minute period in the game in

12:19

the second half, and Parramano got

12:21

themselves ahead. And I think

12:23

they were almost too willing to get into

12:25

a traditional arm wrestle. The

12:28

point I make is the way they started the game, they

12:30

were very controlled, but it was

12:32

good sideways ball movement, they shifted the ball around,

12:34

they were a little bit daring. And

12:36

then once Parramano got themselves back into the game and

12:39

then got their noses in front and went, Parramano went,

12:41

come on, let's go, let's go set for set. I

12:44

think manly, they allowed for

12:47

that to dictate the terms of the contest,

12:50

rather than still being a little bit brazen and pushing the ball

12:52

around. Not being frivolous, just trying to

12:54

round. But you just have it, you know, just

12:57

being more expansive, I thought they got bogged

12:59

down. And that's on

13:01

the back of Cherry Evans, he's the decision maker.

13:04

As a half, when you're going through a contest, you've

13:06

got all the game playing in the world, right? But

13:08

you've also got to keep one eye on what's happening

13:10

the moment then and there. And

13:12

the half back determines whether you hit the accelerator

13:15

and go for it, or you dial

13:17

it back a little bit and just get in

13:19

that long game mentality. So some teams

13:22

are better at it than others, but you also need to know

13:24

what works for you. And if

13:26

you try and out

13:28

penrith, penrith, you better be on your game,

13:30

because they're the best at what

13:33

they do. So you probably need to be a

13:35

little bit adventurous, not being ridiculously crazy, but

13:38

backing skill and pure

13:40

execution is the best way to look at it. Because if

13:42

you're going to back the ability to shift the ball like

13:44

they did for, I think it was Turbo's long field effort.

13:46

Yeah, great. That's

13:49

not risky. No, that's wrong. Back in

13:51

your skill and execute. Yeah. I

13:53

heard Mitchell Moses interviewed after the game. He spoke about, he

13:55

said, well, we found another way to

13:57

win. In the past, paramedically, get off the field. or

14:00

bad start like that, they sometimes would

14:02

hit the skids a little bit. I just, I

14:04

like the way they get themselves back into

14:06

content. He was in good nick yesterday Mitch.

14:09

Like just some of his clutch passes, a

14:11

couple of tries since it was literally passing

14:13

on under immense pressure and he still backed himself

14:15

like it was, I thought he had a fine

14:17

game yesterday. He'll take a quick break, he'll be back

14:20

with Coops in a minute. Are

14:23

you ready to get an inside

14:25

look at crime from someone who

14:27

has investigated some of Australia's worst

14:29

crimes? Was like a leadens cave.

14:31

The luminol found bloodied footprints and

14:33

bloodied handprints on a wall. So

14:35

it's just like a horror movie.

14:37

Former homicide detective Gary Jubelin sits

14:39

down with cops, crims, addicts, victims,

14:41

small time cheats and big town

14:43

lawyers as they tell their incredible

14:45

stories. My house got rioted, Nick

14:48

Cianna got bail refused, Nick Cianna

14:50

went to truck, his apocalypse, prison.

14:53

Listen to I Catch Killers early and ad

14:55

free on Cry Next Plus on Apple Podcasts

14:57

today or wherever you get your podcasts. First

15:03

time that the dogs have kept an opponent to

15:05

zero for almost 20 years I believe. No way.

15:07

That was a stat that was thrown at me.

15:10

You've been hitting the computer in the stat system yourself

15:12

hasn't you? As you know I don't know, the computer.

15:14

Someone who was on a computer told

15:16

me. I'll do that. But

15:19

you know we said about before the

15:21

Tigers simplified their game

15:23

plan. That's what we've seen the last two

15:25

weeks with the Bulldogs. Simplifying things, how

15:27

the team plays, less errors which means

15:30

they're more physical, more gas in

15:32

the tank, kick hours. Yeah. It

15:35

was best game I've seen him play last

15:37

week in a Bulldog's jersey. He was better

15:39

again. And that Burton kick out cry and

15:41

there's just something brewing there. It looks like

15:43

there's a little bit of chemistry coming along

15:45

there. And I'd love to see

15:47

it up in full throttle put out of

15:50

a car on the end of it. But

15:52

then it's going to be a real challenge for Drew Hutcheson

15:54

on the other side of the field because if I'm any

15:56

team coming against the dogs in a little bit of form,

15:59

what am I doing? He's just going to load

16:01

up defenders on the right side defence, left on

16:03

the dogs. Say, Rotto, you want to come this

16:05

way, good luck, I'm going to put an extra

16:08

defender there. Mate, I just like some of the

16:10

things they did in the tough areas of the

16:12

game. I said before, kick chase,

16:14

but also kick harassment. Like, you

16:16

know, they never left Teneboid

16:19

alone. They were just at him all the

16:21

time. Had a bad day though. Ree Mani

16:24

was really good. It's funny

16:26

when you talk about that kick pressure

16:28

or kick harassment. Like, it

16:31

was obvious that the dogs were going after

16:33

Teneboid and they got rewards. Like, you know,

16:35

he fluffed a couple of them. And

16:37

on the flip side of the big game on

16:39

Friday night, like, Sam Walker had acres

16:42

of time to kick the ball. Every time he

16:44

kicked him that first half, there was zero intensity

16:46

and pressure coming from South Sydney.

16:49

So it's a very good indicator early

16:51

on, whether you're a coach, a player,

16:53

fan or just watching, is

16:55

if your team is on, look for

16:57

kick pressure, because that's the indicator of

16:59

someone's willing to do an extra effort

17:01

that might just come back and help

17:03

you out. Coop's on that game, Roosters

17:05

and Souths. I thought there

17:07

was no Luke Carey. I thought it was going

17:09

to be a challenge for Sam and Smith and

17:12

also Sammy Walker. I thought,

17:14

even though he left the field at one point, I

17:16

thought it was a really important game in

17:18

terms of Sam Walker's taking

17:20

that next step in his career. Yep. I thought, at

17:22

least, King Game was really good. He scored two tries,

17:25

right? And that's what we all look at. His

17:28

connection with Tedeska on the right side put

17:30

away Dom Young

17:32

a couple of times. So that was nice and pretty

17:34

for him. But I like the fact that his King

17:36

Game was arguably one of the best he's had in

17:38

a long time. Most of

17:41

his kicks landed in a difficult spot for

17:43

the trail Mitchell. And

17:45

sometimes, you know, Sam can sort

17:47

of tap it or pop down a little bit

17:49

short and give the fullback advantage coming forward. But

17:51

most of the time the trail was catching that

17:53

with the trial on a couple of metres away.

17:56

So I thought he did the high

17:58

percentage stuff great. The

18:01

is a short season game for himself is

18:03

better than a one. The causes of white

18:05

line is that have a double cakes. Yeah

18:07

it's all up to this gap. Did you

18:09

see this season? Coming

18:12

like because. It's

18:14

a great form but for a guy

18:16

the up and deserve a tidies I'd

18:18

when he comes out and returned to.

18:21

And. He's very. Very

18:23

often. As you say, Okay

18:25

that is still slice it all. The

18:28

criticism of last she kissed or I

18:30

haven't seen him and his have seen

18:32

imply Beta the death of the month

18:34

is getting back to that ah mister

18:36

is tolerance policies that one third dumb

18:39

young please Also getting back to that

18:41

pinball mentality here. We like he says

18:43

bounce off people not lose pies and

18:45

keep breaking tackles like is getting that's

18:47

running game back or this might be

18:50

really we brought announcing to this guy's

18:52

trying to prove a point of having

18:54

a below par he. Lost see or

18:56

hear. his First Charles as up in

18:58

the All season and I think that

19:01

perspective sometimes works really well or could

19:03

work to a negative with God's plan

19:05

or that level. but also maybe maybe

19:07

they'll soon. Still sexy victim in effect

19:09

of the sun seek to the same

19:11

you're just put him in his head

19:14

spices some they are struggling clubs to

19:16

produce. Like hesitant it's release first attempt

19:18

to moines. Iowa

19:20

Mahatma until Brandon. Brandon's been really

19:23

good size. How's he? ran? a

19:25

smith? On also that was the

19:27

best game and roosters josie requesting coops

19:29

because sort of watching the why brand

19:31

and played the game is how we

19:34

build is how as be more patience

19:36

or reckon not haven't sand and in

19:38

the photo in jersey sort of with

19:40

brand is as a second. And

19:42

I am I gonna be replaced if

19:45

five ten minutes or just or thought

19:47

he was of the build into a

19:49

rhythm and to see as a sub

19:51

bit more patient with these young of

19:53

he obviously wants to be and I

19:55

even apply Robin Quiet. Sometimes.

19:57

craig bellamy disease to save yeah make

20:00

your best effort your next effort and just go for it and

20:02

just hold on as long as you can. I

20:04

think we spoke on his podcast last

20:07

week about the re-swall's try

20:09

against South Sydney where he was

20:11

on one side of the field, saw

20:14

space in and around that rock, stepped back a couple

20:17

of times and sliced straight through. And

20:19

I think that Brandon Smith took advantage of

20:21

that in his own way because the number

20:23

of times that he came out right and

20:26

then borrowed back left, he got

20:28

a bit of space, whether it was the markers

20:30

or other A defenders not coming up where he

20:32

should have been. So he ran the ball a

20:35

lot in that first 20 minutes. He looked robust

20:37

through the middle. And I think he must have

20:39

seen the space that Rees Walsh

20:41

caught the other weeks because he was dynamic. He

20:43

came out one side, back through the other. And

20:46

yeah, as you said, I think he

20:48

played well in the corresponding game last

20:50

year. I think he had a nice touch or scored

20:52

a try as well. So he likes the big stage.

20:55

Just back in the semi-walker for a second, just made

20:57

sort of a bit of a note that I was

20:59

watching the match. I think sometimes with

21:01

young halves, Coops, you see

21:03

them starting to mature by

21:06

what they do on the neutral plays or the

21:08

plays basically where they get up there and they

21:10

go, I don't really like what I see. And

21:13

as opposed to just sometimes going, just to

21:15

one of the big guys, just take one

21:17

forward for me. They actually do something on

21:19

that play, allow the play to go forward,

21:22

but a low-riff play, which will assist the

21:24

following play. We used

21:26

to call it Newcastle, a play for a

21:28

play. And there was a couple of times

21:30

in the game he worked it really nice.

21:32

One was about 10 minutes into the game and

21:34

he goes up in the advantage line. He sort of established

21:36

himself there that he goes, well, I'm

21:38

here now, but it doesn't seem to

21:40

be anything on. And what he does, he just drifts across

21:42

and does a little double drop-off. And you

21:44

see by doing that play, it actually pulls defenders

21:47

from the other side of a little bit of

21:49

low-riff play, which will assist the following play. And

21:52

we used to call it Newcastle, a play for a

21:54

play. And there was a couple of times in the

21:56

game he worked it really nice. One was about 10

21:58

minutes into the game. into the game and he

22:00

goes up in the advantage line he sort of stabs himself

22:03

there that he goes well I'm

22:05

here now but doesn't seem to be

22:07

anything on and what he does he just drifts across

22:09

and does a little double drop off and you see

22:11

by doing that play it actually pulls defenders from the

22:13

other side of the field and then

22:15

they go back they swing back that way

22:17

and actually gave him a fighting chance on

22:20

the play but you know what I mean

22:22

players halves that can do things which will

22:24

assist the future set not just going I

22:26

don't like what I see just take it

22:28

up for me. I think like the

22:30

way that Sam likes to play Sam likes to

22:32

be touching the ball a lot as

22:35

a half and sometimes you can overplay if you touch

22:37

it too many times it means that your forwards aren't

22:39

getting forward momentum but

22:41

if everyone can understand and get on the same

22:43

page as Sam that's when he's in good rhythm

22:45

because he likes to catch the ball and then

22:47

I actually don't know what I'm going to do

22:49

here yet oh nothing's on one two yeah and

22:51

then he'll get up again have a look yeah

22:53

okay now we're on or in some other teams

22:55

might just roll the the forward like

22:58

for example when I was playing it was always

23:00

like no Cameron take the forwards again keep

23:02

going whatever whereas Sam likes to touch feel and

23:04

move his team around but the

23:07

other part in terms of when you said

23:09

play for play not to

23:11

jump around here but the play for play

23:13

that Ponga did on against

23:16

the storm I think it was the cutout

23:18

pass for the try yeah big left footstep

23:20

back inside Lierre on his favorite four and

23:22

four then goes the dummy half looks right

23:25

knew he had his number and then zipped

23:27

out and went bang beautiful pass out why

23:29

that was the best play for play I

23:31

saw on the weekend what a what a

23:33

um what an important win

23:35

for Newcastle but then further evidence of the

23:37

type of year that they've got built in

23:39

the Melbourne Storm to go in without all

23:41

those key men and still with a minute

23:43

or two you know like everyone in

23:46

that night stadium they were tightening up

23:48

yeah yeah I thought um I

23:50

thought yeah Cailin's obviously you know

23:53

won the Italian last year but he's he's

23:55

starting to have major impacts on that team whenever

23:57

he plays and if there can be some support

24:00

and what's your Coggs

24:02

role? I

24:06

thought Coggs played how

24:09

he plays. Very organized, very neat,

24:11

did what the side needs. I think that helps

24:13

Newcastle, I think that helps Kaitlyn and things like

24:15

that. So yeah, I thought that was the best

24:17

play for playoffs throughout the weekend. Yeah, we'll take

24:19

a real quick break with Coofs and be back

24:21

to talk more Rugby League. Are

24:24

you ready to get an inside look

24:26

at crime from someone who has investigated

24:29

some of Australia's worst crimes? It was

24:31

like a lead in a cave. The

24:33

Luminol found blooded footprints and blooded handprints

24:36

on a wall. So it's just like

24:38

a horror movie. Former homicide detective Gary

24:40

Jubelin sits down with cops, crims, addicts,

24:43

victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers as

24:45

they tell their incredible stories. My house

24:47

got rioted, Nick Cianna got bail refused,

24:50

Nick Cianna went on a truck to

24:52

park lay prison. Listen to I Catch

24:54

Killers early and ad-free on Crynax Plus

24:56

on Apple Podcasts today. Or wherever you

24:59

get your podcasts. Finally,

25:04

there's been a lot said about South

25:06

Sydney at the moment and they're

25:09

playing the Dogs This Week, which is always a big game,

25:11

always a really emotional game that is

25:13

a Friday game. I'll

25:16

come back to this point. I don't know

25:18

how much influence Jack Whiting can have in

25:21

turning this around from that left side 10

25:23

metre corridor. What

25:25

do you want to do? Look,

25:28

and this is not a knock. Because

25:36

I think Dino on the weekend,

25:38

he actually did some really good things. It

25:40

was going to be impossible for him to

25:42

have any sort of major impact on the

25:44

game because he's team and forwards just got

25:47

steamrolled. Minus those two young guys, take that

25:49

out of the equation. I want to know

25:51

what's your plan for Jack? I think some

25:53

way he's got to move into the field.

25:56

I need more punch in the middle of

25:58

the field. or

26:00

whether it be sometimes jumping in between

26:02

the three and 13, I don't know.

26:05

But I just don't see at the

26:07

moment he haven't, you know,

26:09

he been able to get, really help South

26:12

drag themselves out of this mess by

26:14

just being stuck in that 10-metre corridor.

26:16

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

26:18

I probably wouldn't. I want to see a bit

26:21

more, maybe give him a free

26:24

license to Rome and get off there and go

26:26

and help him do something. But

26:29

I think the issues for South Sydney is not

26:31

the position where Jack plays. I think

26:34

South issues, I think

26:37

going back to the point about simplification, like

26:39

they need to jot down a couple

26:41

of things and really just focus in on that

26:43

because they've always been a team that's half-class full

26:46

and we're going for it. Doesn't matter the stage

26:48

of the game, like Cody Walker, Latrell Mitchell, we

26:50

are in. You're not going to tell us we

26:52

can't do something here on the field. But I

26:54

think in terms of like, so when

26:57

you're in a rut like this, like

26:59

the best players get the big paychecks

27:01

because they're most influential, both good and

27:03

bad. So if I'm Damian

27:06

Cook, Cam Murray, Latrell and Cody,

27:08

it's on them to rewrite

27:10

the ship and get this season back on track for them.

27:13

And just a little bit of example

27:15

is like, Damian Cook got

27:17

moved to the bench. Why? Maybe because

27:19

he's not effective at running the football.

27:21

So Damian, run the football. Latrell,

27:24

like he's most

27:26

influential person in the game almost when he runs

27:28

a footy, but when he catches those high

27:31

kicks on a kick return, sometimes he just

27:33

dishes off to the winger. I would love

27:35

to see him throw it under his wing

27:38

and skittle the next defendant. Fast forward, they

27:40

need him to bend that linebacker on the

27:42

kick return. And even if it's not even

27:44

on, just do it as an example. And

27:47

for Cody, well, I just

27:49

love that he's

27:51

a risk taker. He loves to go for it.

27:53

He's hooking up with Alex Johnson. He's setting up

27:55

tries all the time. I would love to see

27:57

Cody build his game a little bit like little

28:00

short pass. Okay, yep, I would like to go

28:02

here but I'm going back a little short pass

28:04

kick. And after 20-25

28:06

minutes then start slinging

28:08

it around a little bit but I think they need

28:10

to, those leaders need to start the game well for

28:13

them. Will they beat the dogs? Do

28:15

you think on Friday?

28:19

I think it's a toss of the coin. I think they're in

28:22

world of hurt at the moment south. I give

28:24

dogs absolutely every chance to win this game but

28:26

I'm going to go down on what I just

28:28

said. I think if Latrell Mitchell carries a ball

28:31

and a kick return and skills the defenders, I

28:33

think south win. I'm going to put it down

28:35

as simple as that. If Cody, Damon Cook starts

28:37

the game and just carries the second

28:40

or third tackle.