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upcoming election, Republicans,
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Democrats, independents, non partisans, citizens
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were banding together
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for maximum impact
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because the all Democratic criminal
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court judiciary. There
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is one Republican now. Greg Abbott was
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able to rep to appoint a replacement
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or judge that step down, but basically up until
1:15
very recently. You can say the entire judiciary,
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which means you can say it's the democrats who've been doing
1:19
this, have
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been releasing murderers to commit more
1:22
murders. So
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I asked Brad Gloria,
1:26
our Baron of Booking to track
1:28
down Chuck Cook, get him on the air, who's behind
1:30
this organization? Who are these people? Why are they doing
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this? I
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did not realize at the time that Chuck cooked
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was the son
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of the woman who was murdered last year, eighty
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year old woman, as she's coming
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out of CVS on a Saturday morning.
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terrible story. So
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he and a lot of other people said enough is
1:50
enough. We're not gonna stand for this any
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longer. We're not gonna sit idly by
1:54
and just pray the rosary and hope that the
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election turns out the way we hope it will.
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We're
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going to get
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involved. We're gonna tell our stories. We're gonna
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make people look us in the face.
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and see what we're suffering through the loss
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of our loved ones needlessly. Well,
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that was the first spot. and here
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was the second spot that came out, and you may
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have heard it on these very airwaves.
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My name is Lourdes Modena, and my
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mother was Martha Modena. She
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was a good woman and a good mother.
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And she was brutally murdered last
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year in a parking lot. Her accused
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killer had already been charged
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with capital murder. He was
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able to kill my mother because a Democrat
2:34
judge had let him out on bail. I'm
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a Democrat myself, but life is
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more important than a political party. So
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I decided to do something. I joined
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Stop Houston Murders. These Democrat
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judges have created a revolving door.
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They let even violent suspects out
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of jail and back on the streets. Their
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policies had led to the murder of
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nearly two hundred innocent people.
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family, friends, and neighbors.
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We all pay the price for Democrat
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judges deadly catch and release policies.
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So I'm asking
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you, please, restore
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law in order to our city, vote
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out all Democrat judges,
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Political ad paid for bystop Houston
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Motors Chuck Cook Treasurer.
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Flores
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Modena is our guest. Flores?
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Yes. Hi. Good
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morning. First of all, thank you
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for being bold enough to step out
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from anonymity and step
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into the public eye. It's not easy
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to do for most people. And from
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what I've heard based on
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question I asked of some of people who've been involved
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since you got involved or just before you got involved,
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this was not easy for you to do.
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Right. It's it's not Tell
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me what happened to
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your mother. Tell me about that day.
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Well, it was
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III believe it was a Thursday,
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September twenty third
4:02
last year. She
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and I visited each other
4:06
regularly, especially in the mornings for
4:09
breakfast. and she wanted
4:11
to
4:11
come over to home right now. Oh, that you got me
4:13
there. What what was breakfast?
4:17
breakfast was for her.
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It was getting something from
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McDonald's. She she
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she loved their
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biscuits. She loved their coffee. She loved
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it very much. And I would
4:29
sometimes cook something for breakfast here,
4:30
but Like because she really like McDonald.
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What
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would you like? Like, it was
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Her
4:35
regular was a
4:37
sausage biscuit with
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cheese and a small coffee.
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Do y'all
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live together? And she totaled you.
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No. We didn't. She married.
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I have
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now I'm a three year old toddler.
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So I have my own house, but we
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live we live fifteen ten
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minutes away maybe. That's that
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is the reason why we spent a lot of time
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together and really hung out a
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lot. Was she by herself? She she
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lived with my father Oh, okay. The
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when
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this happened yes. When this happened, she
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was by herself, but she lived with my father.
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My father happened to be out
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of the country at that time that this
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tragedy happened.
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Okay. Alright. So on that day, I'm
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sorry.
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Right. On that day, she
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told me that she was gonna go by the bank
5:24
real quick. She didn't tell me she
5:26
was gonna get
5:27
off or anything. And then she told me and then
5:29
I'm gonna go and grab some McDonald's and
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head over to your house. I told her it was
5:33
fine.
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and I got up and everything
5:36
started getting my my baby ready,
5:39
my toddler. And I
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noticed she was taking a very long time,
5:43
which was very unusual for her. She
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she was always very punchy. She would
5:47
tell you she was gonna be there at the same
5:49
time, and she she was there.
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And I just thought maybe she had
5:54
gone behind with something at the bank or
5:56
something and
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decided to call her to let her
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know,
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hey, forget about McDonald's. I'll put
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something here for breakfast for both of us.
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But when I when I
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made that call, it was
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in her answering her
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cell phone at
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the other line. It was
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an employee from McDonald's.
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I'm sorry. It was very distraught
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and
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stressed. I could tone her voice and immediately
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I mean, as soon as someone else answered
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that wasn't her. I I knew something
6:28
was not right. And
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then this person, the employee asked
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me,
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who are you, who
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And I and I said, I'm I
6:36
told her my name and I told her, she's
6:38
like, are you are you her friend? Are you
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I'm like, no. I'm her
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daughter.
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And and that's when
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she told me your mom and I think she
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was to start herself. She didn't even know how
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to tell me and she just said your mom
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your mom. And that was like, what happened? And what happened
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to my mom, it seemed like
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I couldn't get the words out fast
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enough from her. And and she said all she
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said was he took her purse
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and And when he she said that
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it's I knew something
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very bad had gone wrong.
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And and I said, how is she
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where is she? And she's like, she was ran
7:12
over. In my mind, I thought, okay.
7:15
If she got ran over, like,
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she didn't even say I don't honestly, I don't
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think she even said right now where she just said she
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got hit by a car. In my mind,
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I thought it's
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a McDonald's. I was like, how fast can
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a car go
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in a McDonald's? So I thought
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maybe she got here, but it's not it's
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not something, you know, that I should worry
7:35
a lot too a lot. And I told her
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and she said, don't
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worry. She's still alive.
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but they're taking her in ambulance right
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now. So I got her as the
7:45
paramedics where were they going, and
7:47
they told me the hospital
7:49
believe it was been top.
7:52
So I hung up with her, and
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and I just told her to hold her
7:56
cell phone and I immediately
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got a hold of my
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brother and then my sister.
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And my brother
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just drove by my house, picked me up,
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we went directly to Bend Top to Luke for her.
8:08
When
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we got there, my sister was already
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there because she she works close
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to Bend Top. she was able to get
8:17
there faster than we did. And when
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we got there, they pulled us all
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three of us in a in a room full
8:23
of doctors. in
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in my mind, III still
8:27
thought I remember thinking,
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why are so many
8:30
doctors? you know,
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but in my mind, I thought, well,
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maybe there's a surgery going on
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and there's been complications and
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and then they they each
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presented their self, and they said, we have a
8:42
chaplain here. And in my mind, it still
8:44
didn't click. I guess, I was
8:46
like a chaplain that, like, I
8:48
would why why it's app
8:49
that meant And
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then they started going over all the description
8:53
of what had
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happened. They told us that my mom was in
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an ambulance and that by the time she
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arrived at the hospital, she was she
9:00
already had a low pulse
9:02
and that they
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tried to do everything. They could
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to
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save her.
9:09
because they they
9:10
couldn't do anything to work
9:12
her. It
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was it
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was it's it's been
9:19
a hard
9:21
ping
9:21
in my life to hear.
9:24
My world
9:27
my world just shattered and
9:29
broke.
9:33
Hi.
9:33
Hold on just a moment, please. They're
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at their borders.
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The Michael
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Berry Show. Police
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clap. Please, please, please.
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Before the win.
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Nordisk Medina is our
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guest. Nordisk I'll just let you pick
9:54
up exactly where you left off.
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Thank you. as
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I was saying, we got the news at
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the hospital and it was just
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unbelievable. I remember I stayed
10:06
quiet. It's like
10:08
my mind was trying to
10:11
accept what what I had just heard.
10:13
I think I was in shock. I
10:16
remember my sisters started
10:18
crying and crying and I think my
10:20
bread was the same as I was because we were
10:22
both quiet. And
10:25
they asked us if we were if
10:27
we wanted to be alone and we said
10:29
yes and I remember
10:31
standing in that room with my other two
10:33
siblings and just trying
10:36
to figure out what we
10:38
had just heard. Like, we didn't know if
10:40
we we we could
10:42
not believe it. And
10:45
and then came, you
10:47
know, then came, how
10:49
are we gonna tell our father?
10:51
Because he was not here at
10:53
that time, and he's diabetic.
10:55
So he has that health issue to deal
10:57
with. And we
10:59
wanted to figure out how to bring him back
11:02
from – at that time he was in
11:04
Mexico, how to bring him back from
11:06
Mexico by himself. We
11:08
didn't want this to cause
11:10
anything bad in his health.
11:12
So we
11:13
try to figure out who to tell first,
11:16
how to do it and
11:17
I remember my
11:19
brother called my cousins in Mexico
11:21
and broke the news to
11:23
them.
11:24
they too, of course, could not believe
11:27
it. I
11:27
mean, it was just so unexpected.
11:31
and
11:31
they
11:32
helped us to figure out how to
11:35
how to get my
11:37
dad in a a system
11:39
of transportation, a bus to come
11:41
back to
11:41
Houston. We
11:43
brought him
11:44
with a with a big lie, and we
11:46
had to tell him that
11:47
she had been brought
11:50
that they took her purse and
11:52
that she got
11:52
hit by a car, but that
11:54
she was
11:55
still alive. We had to say
11:57
that. Otherwise, we didn't know how he was going
11:59
to
11:59
react you know,
12:02
refer his blood sugar not his
12:05
spike. So
12:07
that's that's how he came back.
12:09
he came back thinking that she was still
12:11
alive and that she
12:13
was
12:13
only in the hospital having complications.
12:17
So
12:17
he was calling this on his way
12:20
home every so often. How's
12:22
your mother doing? How's your mother doing? How's your mother doing? He
12:24
kept continuing? telling lies
12:26
because that that that was the
12:28
only way to make sure that he got
12:30
here
12:30
safe.
12:32
So when he finally did get here, we
12:35
all went to pick him up and
12:37
and I think that right there immediately
12:39
was assigned to him that something wasn't right
12:41
because it it was not our
12:43
norm for all of us to go pick him up
12:45
whenever he came back from somewhere
12:47
else. It was just usually one
12:49
one of us. So
12:50
he said, wow, that's a miracle. All of
12:52
you guys are here, like, what's going
12:55
on. And we just said, nothing, you
12:57
know, we just we just wanted to come and
12:59
and be all here for you. And
13:01
then he's like,
13:03
well, I wanna go see your mother.
13:06
That's
13:06
the first thing he he said and
13:08
and that's when we had to break it down
13:11
for him. And, thank god, my
13:13
my sister was smart enough to have
13:15
a a coke on her hand because
13:16
that's what we give
13:19
him if, you know, if his blood sugar
13:21
goes down immediately.
13:23
And and he had to use it and
13:25
you
13:26
know, he he was in this belief
13:28
and started
13:30
crying and he's like, how how did
13:32
this happen? And we
13:34
had to retell the story of how
13:36
it happened.
13:39
We all drove back home
13:42
to my parents' house And
13:45
it that was the first time that
13:47
I stepped into their house
13:48
without her being there.
13:50
and it just it fell
13:53
horrible. It fell horrible. Was it
13:55
an an emptiness and hollowness?
13:59
and we
13:59
went straight to her bedroom,
14:02
and I remember we all hugged.
14:04
My dad just plummeted
14:06
to bed. where
14:08
she used to sleep.
14:11
And
14:11
then we all hugged and cried
14:13
together.
14:13
That was the first time that
14:15
that we
14:16
all cried together for
14:19
her.
14:23
It's
14:23
been very hard after that.
14:26
You
14:26
know, my aunt, I have two aunts
14:29
that live in Mexico's sister her
14:31
sisters they they were given
14:33
the news too
14:34
because they
14:35
both are elderly people.
14:38
And
14:39
They they're
14:42
older than her. So, you know, every
14:44
we all in our heads in our
14:46
heads, we always think I guess
14:48
that's just how
14:50
usually it goes
14:51
and it's common sense to think that
14:54
way that the older are
14:56
always gonna go before us. Mhmm.
14:58
because it's not like it's supposed to be sure.
15:00
And that's how it's supposed to
15:02
be exactly So was a hard it
15:04
was a hard thing for them
15:07
also, and they
15:09
were able to count to count
15:11
thank God and they were here
15:13
with us for the for the viewing,
15:15
for the funeral. And
15:17
and
15:18
my my father I
15:20
I remember when it happened,
15:22
was a Thursday morning. It
15:24
was around, I
15:25
wanna say, ten twenty. I'm sure
15:27
it happened because I still remember
15:30
when I called, it was around ten thirty.
15:32
And
15:34
then we had that whole Thursday
15:37
to ourselves to kind
15:39
of try to absorb what
15:41
had happened. But my
15:42
father got here got back to
15:45
Houston
15:45
on the
15:47
next day, I believe.
15:48
So by that day, we were already
15:50
getting contacted by the news.
15:53
Our friends and family had found out
15:55
they were all coming to visit and give their condolences.
15:58
So he really didn't
15:59
have time to absorb
16:02
all of this in.
16:05
It was very, very hard those
16:08
first
16:08
weeks. I'm
16:10
glad and thankful
16:12
that we had so much support
16:14
from friends and family. Everybody was
16:16
so supportive. Everybody
16:18
tried to show us that they were
16:20
there for us. but
16:23
I never never thought I would
16:25
lose my mother
16:26
so soon and in this way.
16:28
it
16:30
was very
16:33
unexpected and I still live with it.
16:35
I still
16:35
suffer the consequences it's
16:38
it's very hard. It
16:40
it took a
16:41
lot a lot of months for me
16:43
to accept that this
16:45
had happened.
16:48
especially because I think from all
16:50
three of us at at that
16:52
time that she that
16:54
this happened, I I guess
16:56
I can say I was closer to her
16:58
because I right now, I'm
17:00
a stay at home mom.
17:01
And
17:03
I was me
17:06
and her were visiting each other a lot,
17:08
and she was spending time with
17:09
her friends. Laura, this
17:12
hold with me for just a moment. I wanna
17:14
get to mine and came to my
17:16
attention and that is because the
17:18
man who killed your mother was out
17:20
on bond another capital
17:22
murder case. And Reuters'
17:24
Medina said, Enough and she
17:26
has come forward. Talk cleanup.
17:30
Our guests.
17:34
That awful moment. Look,
17:36
we're all going to lose our parents
17:39
at some point. That's
17:42
just going to happen and we know
17:44
it. but we expect that happen naturally.
17:46
We don't want
17:48
them murdered. And
17:51
then,
17:51
Lord, this after
17:53
you find out that Andrew
17:56
Williams and his accomplice ran
17:59
over your mother and killed her and left
18:02
her there. for
18:03
her purse of
18:05
all things that
18:08
Andrew Williams was out on
18:10
bond from another capital murder case
18:12
when he did this.
18:17
how did I
18:20
mean, you're already emotionally
18:22
distraught, but how did what
18:24
goes through your mind at that moment?
18:27
Wow. So
18:31
much rage and so much anger.
18:33
I was so angry
18:35
all of us were,
18:38
and I could not believe
18:41
how someone was out on bond on
18:44
capital murder. Like,
18:46
how how does that happen? That doesn't
18:49
even make sense. It does not
18:51
make sense in my head. So
18:54
I
18:54
wanted to know how that had happened,
18:56
and we started informing
18:59
ourselves, we started investigating
19:02
who was behind all of this.
19:05
And we learned who the judge was
19:07
and and why he and how he was
19:09
out on bond, and we were
19:11
enraged. I we
19:14
were angry. at that I
19:16
I felt that I had to
19:18
raise my voice because
19:22
I honestly before this happened with my
19:24
mother, I did not know
19:26
how much of a
19:26
problem this was in our in our
19:29
county. I was not
19:30
aware. when
19:32
this happened, I start it's
19:34
like my eyes I felt
19:36
like my eyes were open to a
19:39
a huge problem
19:41
that I did not know existed,
19:44
and and
19:45
I knew that there was so many people
19:47
like me and Harris
19:48
County that we that we're not aware what was
19:50
going on. So I felt
19:52
like it was my
19:54
duty,
19:54
my responsibility, and honor to
19:56
my mother, to raise my voice.
19:59
to tell my
20:00
story so people could
20:03
start to
20:03
notice and and hear what
20:05
was going on in our county with
20:08
all these judges because it was
20:10
not just
20:10
a judge that let my mom out. I I
20:12
started hearing about other cases and
20:15
I And I was just thinking
20:17
how can this be happening and someone
20:19
is not saying something about it? How
20:21
is it nonwarrin the old And
20:24
and after that,
20:26
the the crime continued. I think it's
20:28
been has been escalating for
20:30
the past year. it's
20:31
like the daily bread for
20:35
criminals. And
20:36
that's when I decided
20:38
to join this pack stop houston
20:40
murders dot com.
20:43
I was drawn
20:45
to them because they show a true
20:48
empathy and
20:48
concern for what's happening or
20:50
for for what's going on with
20:52
all these judges letting
20:55
criminals out on bond. and
20:57
they had the same view that I did in
20:59
the same interest. They
21:02
basically
21:02
want to get the message
21:04
out to the public to
21:07
let
21:07
them know what's going on and that
21:09
as citizens, we can do
21:11
something about it, and that
21:14
is through our vote. So when
21:16
I when I knew about this pack
21:18
and I realized that we had
21:20
the common interest, I decided to
21:22
join them and to
21:25
use my story, to use my mother's
21:28
story, to get
21:28
the word out there about what's going on because
21:30
if if anything, my
21:31
mom was one of those persons that would
21:33
not state quiet she was the kind of
21:36
person to do and say the right
21:38
thing when they had to be
21:40
said without being afraid.
21:42
And not only because of that, but
21:45
because I have a family and
21:47
I still have family members
21:49
too of
21:49
my mom's age, and I certainly
21:51
do not want to go through this
21:54
again. I don't want anybody else to
21:56
go through this again.
21:57
It's It's
21:59
just
21:59
crazy how this catch and release
22:02
a
22:02
reform that Democrats are
22:05
using. How in the world did they even
22:07
think in first place that
22:09
that was going to work. And then just
22:12
describe
22:12
us as collateral victims.
22:16
like,
22:16
really, that's what we are
22:17
to you. You didn't I mean,
22:20
to me is, like, we're we
22:23
you know, unfortunately, we voted for
22:25
you. We put you in that position. And
22:28
I just feel like this like,
22:31
lately criminals have more rights than
22:33
citizens do. And we are the ones that
22:35
pay taxes, and we are
22:38
the ones
22:38
that are doing their the right thing.
22:40
We're we're not out there trying to
22:42
rob or kill anyone.
22:44
No. This let me ask you. are
22:45
that if they're tough. in
22:47
in your testimony
22:49
that has now been broadcast
22:51
across the radio and has received
22:53
a lot of attention. you
22:57
say, I'm a Democrat, but
23:00
these Democrats are letting these
23:02
killers out and I care
23:04
more about what's right than
23:06
I do party. And
23:08
so I'm asking you to vote out
23:11
these Democrats. How hard was that for you
23:13
to do and say?
23:16
Honestly,
23:16
it wasn't
23:19
hard. It wasn't hard. I
23:21
I did consider myself a Democrat for
23:23
a very long time. Since
23:25
this has happened, it has made
23:27
me question my belief It has
23:29
made me question how much
23:32
I know about the system, how much I know,
23:34
I really know about who I'm choosing
23:36
and the leaders and everything. it
23:38
hasn't been hard because
23:40
I I truly want a change.
23:42
I want a change. I want
23:45
strong leadership back in back
23:47
in office. I want people and
23:49
leaders that are not afraid to
23:51
implement the right laws, to
23:52
do the right thing, to
23:54
keep all of us safe. I
23:56
don't want leaders that are in the side
23:58
of criminals
23:59
off
23:59
being soft on them and and thinking,
24:02
oh,
24:02
they deserve another chance. Oh, they deserve
24:05
another opportunity. these criminals
24:07
have shown once, I
24:09
mean, over and over again. They're not
24:11
interesting in making a change.
24:13
And these Democrats have
24:16
already
24:16
been in office
24:17
for, I don't know, four years.
24:19
And what have they done for
24:22
us? I mean, I started looking and all of it
24:24
and it just -- it doesn't look
24:26
right. It wasn't hard for me to say
24:28
that because I truly want a
24:30
change. I
24:30
want strong leadership back in our office,
24:33
and I want Houston to be the way
24:34
it was before
24:36
all of this started happening.
24:39
And like I said, that is the reason why
24:41
I joined stopped Houston
24:44
murders because I saw that as the
24:46
common ground. that we
24:47
all have the same
24:49
interest. Laura,
24:51
those We can't we can't bring
24:53
back your sweet mother.
24:55
But maybe you
24:57
can save somebody else's.
24:59
Thank you for
25:01
being willing to step forward and tell your
25:04
story.
25:07
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25:09
this. That's
25:11
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