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Nikki Haley is served as the

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one hundred sixteenth governor of

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South Carolina. She is served

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as the twenty ninth US ambassador

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to the United Nations. Now,

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she is seeking the presidency. And

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after Donald Trump Nicki

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Haley is the first declared

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Republican candidate for the twenty

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twenty four presidential nomination. And

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now she is sitting down with me

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to discuss her campaign.

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The last time I saw Nikki Haley, She

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was teaching me how to be a UN

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ambassador. I am

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still not the UN ambassador, but

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she is now running for president.

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Nikki, thank you so much for

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Thank you. And you almost had the veto down,

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but not quiet.

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But not my hand was

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-- Yeah. -- what does and I'll

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keep working on it. Yeah. Maybe in a Haley administration.

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I'm just putting it out there. I I'll

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keep

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running No. So, no. It's So, Nikki,

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congratulations on entering into the race.

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I've got a list of ten questions. Okay.

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Answer them however you like.

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I they're from a smattering across policy,

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philosophy, history, First question,

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real hardball. Who's your favorite

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president? I have two.

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Lincoln and Reagan. Lincoln and Reagan.

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Good choices. What

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book has most influenced the

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way that you view politics?

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The most recent book because

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I I feel like but

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the most recent book really was

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J. D. Vance's book. I just related

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to it so much, and I because

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I grew up very similar

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in the way that, you know, you lived with people

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who didn't know what we didn't have. And

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to not forget their voices and

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to understand that they matter is

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really important. You know, because in rural

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South Carolina, you you've got

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schools that are challenging and you've got

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companies don't come always where they need to and

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that's why when I was governor, I focused so

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much on every single part

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of South Carolina. And I think we need to

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focus on every single part of the country.

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But you have to look at the cultures. You've got to

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look at the people. You've got to look at what

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they do and how they live. And I thought that J. D.

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Did an amazing job of really

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describing who they are,

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what they care about, and what we need

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to do as a country to make sure that

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we let them know we've got solutions that lift up

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everybody. Well, speaking of reaching

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out to people that one does not typically

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reach out to. You have had a lot of

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crossover appeal more so than many

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of the candidates who have been talked about

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as as potential nominees. What

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is one time that

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you have reached across the aisle

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successfully or unsuccessfully? And

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What is one issue on which you most

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likely would not be able to reach across

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the

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aisle? The hardest issue, I think,

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of having to deal with reaching across

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the aisle was after we had the shooting

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at Mother Emanuel Church. And

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you had a white

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supremacist come in to

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a church. It was the first time we'd had a

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a shooting in a place of worship.

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And these twelve people did what

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so many South Carolanians do on a Wednesday night.

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They went to bible study, but somebody

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else showed up. He didn't look like them, he didn't

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sound like them, he didn't act like them.

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And when they bowed their prayers, their

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heads in that last prayer, he

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began to shoot. And South

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Carolina was devastated. Three

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days later, he showed, you know,

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he had his manifesto out and he was showing

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the confederate flag, and

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this was on the heels of Ferguson. And

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you were watching riots on TV, you were watching

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that, and I knew that I had to

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somehow protect the state. And really

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pushing for the flag to come down

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was something that you had to be really

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respectful about because half

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of South Carolanians saw the flag as

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heritage and service. The

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other half saw it as slavery and hate.

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My job wasn't to judge either side.

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My job is to get them to see the best of themselves

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and go in a different direction. It

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took two thirds of the house and two thirds of

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the senate. But what we were able to do

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is tap into the best part of people

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and say, let's put this confederate flag

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instead of the front of the state house where it's

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a living, breathing symbol Let's put it in

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museum where it belongs. And then

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move on as South Carolanians, and South Carolanians

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did that. The next push they, of course,

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were like, what about monuments, what about

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street signs, and I was like we're not doing that. And

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I strong armed and said, we will never

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do that because you can't erase history.

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You can add to history. So instead,

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they're adding a monument for the mother and manual

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victims. They built a African

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American museum. And so that was

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one that was really not just

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hard but emotional for the people of

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South Carolina. Of course. And it was you

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know, part of who they were. And so getting

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them to see if there's a better place we could

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go, but you don't have to hate each other to

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do it was really important. Now what would be

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one issue? Because obviously, you

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successfully were able to affect that policy.

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What would be one issue where you think I

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probably couldn't work with the other side if

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there is

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one. I mean, the one thing I

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would love to do is term limits. Because

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I don't think that that's an issue for

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Republicans or Democrats. I think that's an issue

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for Americans. I mean, look at DC.

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Look at how long everybody's been

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there. And so do I think

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Congress will ever pass a term on its

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bill on their own? No. But what we have to do is

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You couldn't work with either side. No. That's exactly

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right. What we have to do is get the American people

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to say when every single congressman

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decides to run, are you for term

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loan and make them do it at

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that moment. And when America goes

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and puts them to where they have to answer

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and they have to sign a pledge and they have

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to follow through with

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it. That's how I think we're going to get it. But I

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think that's going to be incredibly tough because they don't want to leave

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the power of it all. And that's a Republican or

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a Democrat thing. Right. Neither side has

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any interest in that at least of the office holders.

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Yes. According to the polls, the top

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issue for everybody is

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the economy and not just the economy, but

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cost of living, which is through the roof right now,

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but it's a very thorny issue because

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any policy that you can undertake is going

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to have consequences that you don't wanna see.

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So how does president Haley deal

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with record high inflation without

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harming employment.

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Very much like what we had to do in South Carolina.

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You know, when I took on as governor, we had double digit

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unemployment. And, you know,

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everything had kind of fallen to the wayside and I

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had to build the state back up. What we need to

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do in America's first stop

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the spending binge that's happening in

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DC. I mean, it's ridiculous how much

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they're spending. And it's Republicans and

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Democrats. Why did they open up earmarked?

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Why are we spending twelve million on a baseball

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stadium in New York or fifteen million for New

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Jersey get the World Cup or six and a

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half million for golf courses in Colorado.

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So stop the spending. Secondly,

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balance the budget. I did it as governor in

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South Carolina. Many governors

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do it. Why is it that DC doesn't do it? We

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should foot, we should really push to balance

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a budget. Then look at fifteen

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percent of our budget is interest.

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We'll stop borrowing. We have

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to we're now borrowing money just to make

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our interest payments. We need to actually

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focus on pushing the debt down because

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our kids are never gonna forgive us for this.

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But the big sting of what we're

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going to have to do is look at the supply

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chain and understand that we've got

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to start building things in America again.

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And that means when we build things in America,

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that's what's going to help with inflation. And

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then for all the people who say we can't talk

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about entitlement reform, guess what? You gotta

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talk about entitlement reform. But that

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means you don't have to take away

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things that have been promised to people. But

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you do have to look at that new group coming

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in and say you're gonna have to play

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by different rules. I had that situation

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in South Carolina with pensions. We

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made sure that those that were promised got.

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But we told the new ones coming in.

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It's a different game for you. And they know

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they're not gonna get it anyway. And so

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we've gotta start doing something. So it's those

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hard decisions. I'm not a lawyer. I'm gonna

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count it. So it's those decisions that

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are tough, but we shouldn't pass

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any bills. That do anything

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that raise the spending level that

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we have. Every bill has to work towards

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bringing down the debt. When we do that

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and commit to that, then it'll be a different

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day in

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America. That would be another issue where you're taking

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on both sides because obviously the

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Democrats have no interest in entitlement reform.

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And then the house speaker, Kevin McCarthy, just

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came out and said, entitlement reform, dead

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on arrival, president Haley

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says, we're gonna we're gonna run out in

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twenty twenty eight. Like, we have to do

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it, but I don't think we have to raise taxes

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to do

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it. I think you just have to go back and look

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at the system and say, let's try something new.

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On another big issue that people are focused

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on, immigration. Mhmm. Assuming

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that you wanna put an end to illegal immigration,

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which most reasonable people do,

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what do you do about the people already here? Do you

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put them on a path to citizenship? Do you not

8:50

put them on a path to citizenship? And furthermore,

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when it comes to legal immigration?

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Do you restrict it? Do you expand

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it? Or do you keep it about the same? So

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I am the daughter of legal immigrants. They

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came here. They put in the time. They put in the

9:04

price they are offended by what's happening on

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the border. The very first thing is

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we have to secure the border. We have to

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stop catch and release. We have to go back to

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Romania, Mexico. But more than

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that, we have to understand we're a country

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of laws. The

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second, you stop being country of laws. You give

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up everything this country was founded on.

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And

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we, right now, are watching Biden give more

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money to illegal immigrants and we're seeing given

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to citizens these days. So I think

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we have to acknowledge that we have an migration problem.

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When it comes to immigration reform

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and DACA, everybody's quick

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to wanna talk about DACA. We don't talk

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about DACA until they do immigration reform.

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Congress loves to complain about it. They need

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to get in a room and do it. And it's time

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for a change. We need more processors. We

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need to look at who's coming in. But more than

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that, we should look at what

9:50

will make our country better. Do it on

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merit. Do it based on the talent

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we need, not just bringing people

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in. And do what I did in South Carolina

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across the country. We passed an

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Arizona style e verify program

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that said no business could hire anyone

10:05

that was in this country illegally. They all

10:07

left South Carolina because they couldn't get a job.

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Let's have them all leave America because they

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can't get a job. We've got to start

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making sure that we focus on

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the Americans that live here and not

10:18

the illegals that are coming in, feeding off

10:20

the hospitals, feeding off our schools, feeding

10:22

off the economy, and giving law enforcement

10:24

more issues. So we have to do that, but we

10:26

do have to have immigration reform, but I think

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it should absolutely be on

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merit. Now what about legal immigration? This

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is one area that a lot of people don't talk about.

10:35

According to whichever polls one looks at,

10:37

a lot of Americans, including many Democrats,

10:40

want to reduce the legal a

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number number of legal immigrants rather

10:44

who come into country

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everywhere. Would you would you

10:47

touch that? Would you say let's only focus

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on illegal immigration that's when you have

10:51

to focus on your economy. What I

10:53

did in South Carolina is I knew what

10:55

our manufacturers needed. I knew what our small

10:57

businesses needed. I knew what our farmers needed.

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Look and see what they have. Look and

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see what Americans can fill.

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Then you look at immigration. You

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should only be bringing in what you need --

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Mhmm.

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--

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not what you have. I think the problem for too long

11:11

has been they're looking at numbers. Well, the

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numbers Mhmm. -- don't work. Instead,

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do it on merit. Do it based on

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what will make America better.

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And look at the things that we're doing. You've got

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kids that come in from overseas. We train

11:24

them in our colleges and then we turn around and

11:26

send them home. Why are we doing

11:28

that? Just focus on educating the

11:30

ones you need and then keep

11:32

them. If that's the talent that you have to have. Rather

11:34

than looking at firm number, just say, okay, what

11:36

what do the companies need to fill the jobs?

11:38

And we're not going to bring in more than we need

11:40

to fill those

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jobs. But No. Because there are times

11:43

where if we've got plenty, then you can

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slow that down. If there's times that manufacturers

11:47

say, we need this talent, we need this skill,

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you can pick it back up. Now, Among

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the presidential field, one expects lots of

11:54

governors. You've been a governor. One expects

11:57

lots of senators. Very few people

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the presidential field will have foreign policy experience.

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You do happen to have foreign policy experience.

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Tomorrow, China invades

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Taiwan. What does president Haley

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do? Well, if we're smart, China doesn't

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invade Taiwan because we have to focus

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on how we're handling Ukraine. It's

12:16

a big issue. You know, many people think

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this is about Ukraine. It's bigger than Ukraine.

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It's about freedom. And that's

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a war we have to win. We don't

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have to put more money in it. We don't

12:27

have to put troops on the ground, but we do need

12:29

to get with our allies and send equipment

12:31

and ammunition that they need to win if

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Biden would have done this sooner. If

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you look back, this actually was with Obama.

12:38

When he went into Crimea, he didn't

12:40

do anything. It gave Putin the green

12:42

light to say, they don't have

12:44

the will to do this. Then they go and invade

12:46

Ukraine and Biden was slow to the take.

12:48

If we would have been strong and firm in the beginning,

12:50

it would have made a big difference. But look at what

12:53

the Ukrainians did. Here

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these men went to the front lines

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to fight for their freedom and their country.

12:59

They put their women and children off to the side.

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The women said, no, that's not gonna happen. They

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made molotov cocktails. And

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they have gone when they gave them five

13:07

days to save their country. Look

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at them now. They are gaining ground back.

13:12

And you know how far Putin has fallen

13:14

when they're getting Knowles from Iran and missiles

13:16

from North Korea. They've raised the draft

13:18

age to sixty five. They've lost

13:20

thousands of soldiers. So Putin

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knows that there's not a place to go, but the

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lesson in all of this is when a dictator

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says they're gonna do something, we need to believe it.

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Mhmm. President Xi said he was gonna take

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Hong Kong. We watched it. Putin said he

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was gonna take Ukraine. He's done that.

13:35

She has said Taiwan is next, we better believe

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him. Putin has said Poland and the Baltics

13:40

are next. If Ukraine

13:43

and Russia moves in. We're looking at a

13:45

full on world war. We're trying to prevent

13:47

war at this point. We've got to prevent

13:50

war. We don't want China moving into Taiwan.

13:52

So the best thing is make sure Taiwan is

13:54

strong, make sure we're strong with Ukraine,

13:57

and we finish this, and then we'll tell

13:59

every enemy not to go further.

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If Ukraine loses, then we're in a world

14:03

of hurt.

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Very often, these problems compound on themselves.

14:07

Vladimir Zelensky agreed with everything

14:09

you just said. He said, had Joe

14:12

Biden not taken the sanctions off of Russia.

14:15

Russia would not have invaded. Had Joe Biden

14:17

not actually said if Russia

14:20

takes on a minor incursion into Ukraine.

14:22

We won't do very much. Russia

14:24

very likely would not have invaded. So you see that

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weakness from the previous

14:27

administration, creating problems for

14:30

whoever the next. But let's also remember

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Russia never would have invaded if we wouldn't

14:34

have had the debacle in Afghanistan. Right.

14:36

The idea that we left BOGram Air Force

14:38

Base in the middle of the night without telling

14:41

our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with

14:43

us for decades because we asked them to be

14:45

there. Think about what that told our

14:47

friends, more importantly, think about

14:49

what that told Putin and

14:50

Xi. Right. They knew they'd never see

14:52

another weak president like this. But what if

14:54

well, this very likely would be the case.

14:56

You inherit an America, which

14:59

had this debacle in Afghanistan, which

15:01

is projecting weakness around the world, which

15:04

has fumbled the Ukraine war from before

15:06

it was a war. And so, you

15:09

get in there, through no fault of your own,

15:11

America's looking very, very weak. And

15:14

chairman Xi to whatever

15:16

degree he wants

15:18

is addressing into Taiwan. How

15:21

do you deter further

15:23

aggression? So first, a strong military

15:25

does it start worse, a strong military prevents

15:27

worse. We have to strengthen our military.

15:29

We've got to modernize it. We've got to let

15:32

China know we're on to them. Look at

15:34

how they have the largest naval fleet in

15:36

the world. They have more air defense systems we

15:38

do, and they're modernizing their military.

15:40

They're stealing our intellectual property. No

15:42

one is doing anything about it. They're committing

15:44

genocide Everybody saw it because

15:46

they're too scared to deal with China. But

15:49

president Xi started a commission that said

15:51

any company that does business in China.

15:53

Has to cooperate with the Chinese military.

15:56

Think about our tech companies. Think about

15:58

our financial data. Think about our healthcare

16:00

data. Think about our kid's lifestyle data.

16:02

And know that the Chinese military has

16:04

it. But what is America doing? We're

16:06

not strengthening our military. Instead, we're making

16:09

them take gender pronoun classes. I know

16:11

that husband's a combat veteran. We're

16:13

not doing anything about the intellectual property.

16:15

We should go tell our universities, you either take

16:18

Chinese money or you take American money, you don't

16:20

get both. And make them decide, we

16:22

should not be allowing China to buy

16:24

three hundred and eighty thousand acres of

16:26

American soil. That we know they're

16:28

putting next to they're they're buying next to military

16:31

installations recently at Grand Forks

16:33

Air Force Base. That's where our most sensitive

16:35

drone technology is. It's ludicrous

16:37

to do that. We have yet to hold them accountable

16:40

for COVID, which think they

16:42

close their borders to people coming in and they

16:44

open their borders to people going out. And

16:46

of all the drug issues we have, who's

16:49

saying anything to China about the fact that the fentanyl

16:51

is coming from them and they know exactly what

16:53

they're doing? So when we do

16:55

that, And when we start to be strong,

16:58

it makes a difference. But we are giving forty

17:00

six billion dollars in

17:02

aid to countries, and

17:04

most of them hate us. Why are we giving

17:07

money to China for the environment? Why

17:09

are we giving money to Pakistan? Why are we

17:11

giving money to communist Cuba?

17:13

Why are we giving money to Zimbabwe? The most anti

17:15

American African country there is, we

17:17

have to stop giving money to countries that

17:19

hate America. And when we start

17:21

to say this is different, we're gonna

17:23

be strong. We'll have the backs of our allies.

17:25

And for those that even try and mess with

17:27

us, we're gonna take names. That's

17:30

when life

17:30

changes. That's when we have to tell those

17:33

countries what we expect of them instead of

17:35

being reactionary. It's very interesting

17:37

you say that because you have a reputation

17:40

whether this is deserved or not as

17:42

more interventionist when it comes to foreign

17:44

policy, and here you are talking about cutting forward. And

17:46

the wife of a I'm military

17:48

wife. Do you think I want my husband to go to war?

17:50

It's the total opposite. What I

17:52

want is our military to be so strong. Nobody

17:55

wants to touch it. And that's where we

17:57

have to go. Everything we do should

17:59

always be about preventing war. We should

18:01

never but you don't prevent war.

18:04

By cowering. You don't prevent war

18:06

by looking weak. You don't prevent war by

18:09

being scared of the enemy. You prevent

18:11

war by being strong and letting them know what you expect

18:13

and you tell them not to doubt you. That's

18:15

what we did at the United Nations. I

18:18

told countries what America was for

18:20

and what America was against I didn't care if they didn't

18:22

like

18:22

me, but I wanted them to respect America.

18:24

That's what we have to do. Well speaking of

18:26

China and speaking of the best

18:29

defense sometimes being good offense, which

18:31

sounds like what you're describing. When

18:33

it comes to trade, there's been big shift in

18:35

the way that Republicans have talked about trade.

18:38

For the early part of the Republican

18:40

Party, it was a more protectionist party. In

18:42

fact, it was founded in many ways on tariffs --

18:44

Mhmm. -- for much of recent Republican

18:47

history. It's been the free trade party. Mhmm.

18:49

And you saw that especially during the Reagan era

18:51

and after the Reagan era. Recently,

18:54

it's turned back a little bit more toward a protectionist

18:56

party, or I'm just not quite

18:58

sure it's in flux. So president

19:01

Haley looking at trade, Does

19:03

she make trade freer, more

19:06

protectionist,

19:07

or about the same?

19:09

You look at National Security First. When

19:12

COVID came, they told us to put

19:14

on masks, they were made in China. They told us

19:16

to take COVID tests, they were made in China. If you

19:18

go and get your medicines, guess what? They're made in

19:20

China. We have to go and start looking

19:22

on our national security. I don't care if

19:24

Americans buy t shirts and light bulbs

19:26

from China. Any more than I care if China buys

19:29

agricultural products from our farmers. But

19:31

I don't want us to be dependent

19:33

on an enemy for things that Americans need

19:36

for security. That's the lens

19:38

you wanna look at. Yes, of course, we want

19:40

free trade. But when it comes to an enemy,

19:42

don't ever be dependent on anyone

19:45

else. And that's why we need to build more things

19:47

in America. And what we can't build in America,

19:49

go to our allies, go to India, go to

19:51

Australia, go to Japan, go to

19:53

Israel. Those are the ones we need to be going

19:55

to. We shouldn't be dependent on China. So,

19:58

yes, you want free trade, but national

20:00

security comes above all out it's about

20:02

protecting Americans and making sure

20:04

you're doing things that are

20:05

smart. And we haven't done things that we're smart

20:07

in a long time when it comes to our foreign adversaries.

20:10

In order to encourage manufacturing America.

20:13

Would you do that through, say,

20:15

protective tariffs? Would you do that through

20:18

deregulation to encourage companies

20:20

through the market to come back to America

20:22

or some

20:23

combination. I would do what I did in South Carolina.

20:26

We had double digit unemployment. All our

20:28

jobs have gone to were in textiles

20:30

and they all went overseas and we didn't have anything.

20:33

And so I started recruiting foreign direct

20:35

investment because I wanted to make things in

20:37

America again. We went to all of

20:39

our agencies and we said if you're costing

20:41

a person or a business time, you're costing

20:43

them money and that's no longer acceptable. We pull

20:46

back regulations. We made sure that things

20:48

were free flowing. We cut all the red tape.

20:50

By the time I left, we're building planes

20:52

with Boeing, more BMWs in any

20:54

place in the world. We brought in Mercedes Benz,

20:56

Volvo, five international tire companies,

20:59

and they were referring to us as the beast of the southeast.

21:01

And we had the lowest unemployment we had

21:03

had in fifteen years. The key was

21:06

we didn't just bring the companies. We

21:08

retrained South Carolina's to do those

21:10

jobs. We made sure that it

21:12

was helping the people that I was serving

21:14

first. And think that's what we have to look

21:17

at when we look at America. You want

21:19

business. We want to be able to build things.

21:21

We want to be able to have trade. But

21:23

do trade with

21:23

friends. Don't do trade with enemies. And

21:26

that's the biggest. Look at the Europeans. They learn

21:28

that the hard way. Speaking

21:30

of protecting Americans, On

21:32

on the social front -- Mhmm. -- beyond the economic

21:35

questions, even beyond national security, the

21:38

social fabric has freight. You were

21:40

seeing marriage rates plummet to all time

21:42

lows. You were seeing birth rates plummet

21:45

to all time lows. You're seeing abortion continue

21:47

to remain high even after the dopp's

21:49

decision. The family

21:52

is in trouble. What would the Haley

21:54

administration do to

21:57

help to restore the American family.

21:59

Stop paying them to not get

22:01

married. I mean, people

22:03

right now you get more money you're singles. So

22:05

you'll see two singles and they'll have a baby,

22:07

but it on their taxes and in terms of

22:09

getting aid, it's better off for them

22:11

not to get married. We need to reward

22:14

the family unit. So first of all,

22:16

get all the bureaucrats out of education

22:19

and quit trying to teach anything to our

22:21

kids because parents need to decide it. You know,

22:23

I look at, honestly, the critical

22:25

race theory that they did, think about

22:27

if a five year old girl goes into school, if

22:29

she's white or telling her bad. If she's brown

22:32

or black, you're telling her she's never gonna be good enough,

22:34

and she's always gonna be a victim. mean,

22:36

it's terrible. And then

22:38

you've got the the donut say gay girl that

22:40

everybody was up in arms about, and basically

22:42

it said don't talk about gender before third

22:44

grade. I don't think that went far enough.

22:47

When I was in school, you didn't have sex

22:49

ed until seventh grade, and even then

22:51

you had to have your parents sign a permission

22:53

slip, and my dad wouldn't sign it. So I was the

22:55

uncool kid in the class room next door.

22:57

Great dad. That's stuff that needs to be handled

22:59

at home. We need to go back to faith,

23:01

family, and community and allow

23:03

those things to happen. We need go to every

23:06

school saying the pledge of allegiance and remembering

23:08

what it means to be patriotic. We

23:10

need to allow all the things that

23:12

government wants to be involved in,

23:14

We need to remember that government was intended

23:16

to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was

23:19

never meant to be all things to all people. When

23:21

we pull that out of the lives of people

23:23

and allow them to be free. And when

23:25

we reward a family unit,

23:28

that's when good things happen. You know, I

23:30

think we and you also have to look at those

23:32

that have challenges. When I was in South Carolina,

23:34

we had so many people on welfare.

23:36

And what I did was I went to

23:39

the businesses that needed workers. And

23:42

I said, I will give you this person. I

23:44

will pay for them for x weeks if

23:46

you train them. And at the end of that,

23:48

you decide whether you want keep them. We moved

23:50

over twenty thousand people off of

23:52

welfare to work because when those people

23:55

saw what it meant to have a job, when

23:57

they felt that dignity, when they felt

23:59

that responsibility, and when the business

24:01

owner trained them and put the time and

24:03

effort, it was a win win. We've

24:05

gotta start doing more things like that. That's

24:07

hugely

24:08

important. So so you're saying even

24:10

before thinking about things that the government

24:13

can do proactively to

24:15

encourage

24:16

families. First, stop

24:18

the bleeding. Stop doing I don't want government involved

24:20

in don't want government involved in our

24:22

families. think that's the problem is

24:24

you've got government in schools trying to teach kids

24:26

about what a family should be. You've got

24:29

government welfare going to

24:31

people telling them they shouldn't get married. You've got

24:33

things like that that are making people more dependent

24:35

on government. I actually want less of that.

24:38

That's when we pull government back, I think

24:40

we could start to heal the family

24:41

unit. AND START TO GO BACK TO

24:43

COMMUNITY AND FAMILY AND CHURCHES AND THAT'S WHERE

24:46

IT SHOULD BE. ONE THREAT

24:48

TO THE FAMILY WOULD BE THE CRIMINALS THAT ARE

24:50

MAROTING ALL OVER THE STREETS. There

24:52

are some people in the country who say that we have

24:54

an over incarceration problem, and

24:56

we need to actually arrest fewer

24:58

criminals and get rid of certain prisons.

25:01

Others look around. They say murder

25:03

rates have spiked to recent

25:06

highs in cities around the country. Actually,

25:08

maybe we have an under incarcerated problem

25:11

because there are so many criminals out there.

25:14

What does the Haley administration and

25:16

the Haley Justice Department do about

25:18

crime?

25:19

You go deeper than that. And again,

25:22

it's what I did as governor of South Carolina.

25:24

We went first of all, law and order matters.

25:27

You need to have the backs of police, and they

25:29

have to enforce laws, and district attorneys

25:31

have to prosecute them. So we need to make sure

25:33

that we're doing that. But the second thing is I took

25:35

time to go into our presence. And figure

25:38

out how they were getting in there and what was

25:40

happening when they got out. We went

25:42

we started teaching them financial planning

25:44

We taught them family planning. We offered

25:46

them faith based classes if

25:48

they wanted them. And then I took equipment

25:51

from our businesses, put it behind the fence,

25:53

We trained our inmates so that now

25:55

in South Carolina when someone leaves the fence,

25:58

they've got job to go to the next day. We have the

26:00

lowest recidivism rate in the country

26:02

now. We did that

26:04

by making sure they never go back

26:06

in. So enforce the laws,

26:08

let the police do their jobs give

26:10

them the penalties. They get a punishment. You do

26:12

the crime. You gotta pay the time. But

26:14

let's train them on something else so that

26:17

when they leave. The first thing is

26:19

not to go out there and sell drugs again, not to

26:21

go out there and commit another crime. Let's actually

26:23

give them a job so that they can get to

26:25

work and start rehabilitating who they

26:27

are themselves.

26:28

Final question. Patriotism,

26:31

is it what would seem to me an all time

26:33

low? And not just on the left, The

26:35

left for a long time has been unpatriotic,

26:38

I think, and says has said that

26:40

the country is evil and oppressive, and has a

26:42

terrible history, and we shouldn't like it. Many

26:44

on the right now are beginning to

26:47

believe that America

26:49

is a woke empire, that we're

26:51

spreading all sorts of crazy values

26:53

and transgenderism and whatever all

26:56

around the world, and that we've lost our way.

26:58

And it's very difficult even for a conservative

27:01

who used to bleed red, white, and blue

27:03

to to feel pride and

27:05

and satisfaction in the country right now.

27:07

How would President Haley restore

27:10

patriotic love of country? On

27:12

both the left and the right. And that's why

27:14

I'm doing this. That is why I'm doing this

27:16

because when my parents came here, they

27:19

came to a country that was confident. And

27:21

growing, and bright, and full of opportunities.

27:24

And now I look at a country that's covered

27:26

in national self loading, where people

27:28

are saying we're bad, or we're woke, or we're

27:30

racist or all these other things. We

27:33

have to go back and restore patriotism. We

27:35

have to go back and have love of country.

27:37

And our kids need to know that America

27:39

deserves their love. And when

27:41

we go and do that again, that's when I

27:43

think we'll get back on track. You have to have

27:46

kids saying the pledge of allegiance in school every

27:48

day. We have to go remind people that

27:50

every individual needs to bring back

27:52

the spirit of what our national purpose

27:54

is. And you look as a military

27:56

wife, I can tell you Like, you

27:58

see that sacrifice and you see the courage

28:01

that our military men and women go to defend

28:03

it. Mhmm. We have to go back and understand

28:05

we're the best country in the world.

28:07

We're the freest country in the world, but

28:09

we won't always feel like that if we don't love

28:11

her, if we don't really put in the time

28:14

to get her back to where she needs to be.

28:16

We look so distracted right now, Michael.

28:18

And when we when America's distracted, the

28:21

world is less safe. When we start

28:23

to focus again on getting

28:25

people to work, fixing our economy,

28:28

teaching our kids the right education

28:30

we need to be teaching them, and start

28:32

being strong again on the world stage,

28:34

that patriotism will come in,

28:36

but you have to bring out the best of people.

28:39

That's what's been lacking. We're not bringing

28:41

out the best of people. We're bringing out the worst

28:43

of people. We have to go back to remind

28:45

them love of country. And that happens when

28:48

they see production, when they see people moving,

28:50

when they see people working, and when they see people living

28:52

with a good quality of life

28:53

again. I really like that word distracted.

28:56

It's it's a really precise way to describe

28:59

what's going on. In fact, I've heard sin described

29:01

as not just the rejection of

29:03

God and evil in

29:04

itself, but It's just a distraction.

29:07

It's just a distraction. So

29:10

one issue that has crept up

29:12

is what religion has to do with

29:14

all of this? You John Adams says the country is built for

29:17

moral and religious people and it's not fit for anybody else.

29:19

Religion has completely declined in

29:21

the country. People don't really know what

29:23

they believe at all anymore. You

29:25

mentioned the spirit of

29:26

America. What's the spirit

29:29

look like? I mean, the spirit of America is

29:31

built on faith, family, and community.

29:33

That's always been the spirit of America.

29:35

And so you know, I think they say that

29:38

less people are going to church than ever before.

29:41

If you combine all of these things, it

29:43

all adds up. You know, we've gotta

29:46

go back to where, yes, we see

29:48

each other as neighbors. We understand

29:50

we're one American family. We want

29:52

our children to live better lives than

29:54

we live. We've gotta go back to

29:56

what the men and women who sacrificed

29:58

their lives fought for. They fought

30:01

for that. They fought for us to have a

30:03

an America that was patriotic and

30:05

loved country and didn't fall into socialism

30:08

and didn't fall into national self loading.

30:10

We owe it to them to

30:12

go back and find our purpose in America.

30:15

And think that's hugely important. And I think

30:17

what we're seeing is With all these distractions,

30:19

people are finding reasons to hate each other.

30:21

Mhmm. But what we have to remember too is

30:24

Republicans have lost the last

30:26

seven out of eight popular votes for

30:28

president. We have to look at the mermaids

30:31

that we're doing something wrong. We

30:33

should wanna win a majority of Americans. Because

30:35

our policies are right, our solutions are right.

30:38

We focus on lifting up everybody, not just

30:40

to select few, but look at

30:42

how we've been acting. We lost the met

30:44

terms. We didn't lose it because of one person.

30:47

We lost it because when you had independence

30:49

and those that weren't sure where they wanted to vote,

30:51

they saw Republicans hitting each other and

30:53

hitting Democrats. They didn't wanna be part of that

30:55

chaos. Let's remind them

30:58

that Republicans are patriotic.

31:00

We're freedom loving people that

31:02

believe in that our best days

31:04

are ahead of us. But we have to get back

31:06

to that and we should do it by addition.

31:09

We need Hispanics. We need the Jewish community.

31:12

We need Asians. We need African Americans.

31:14

We need women. I know we can do

31:16

it because I did it in South Carolina. You don't

31:18

go to them by saying you should be with us.

31:21

You go to them by saying what do you care about? And

31:23

guess what? They all care about their kid's education.

31:26

They all want school choice because they wanna be able,

31:28

as parents, to be able to decide where to send their kids

31:30

to school. They all care about making

31:33

sure their kids have opportunities they didn't have. They

31:35

all want a SafeAmerica that's strong abroad.

31:38

When you have those conversations and you communicate

31:40

it that way, people will come.

31:43

If you're tired of losing, that's why

31:45

I'm telling Americans to stand with me.

31:48

America deserves better families

31:50

deserve better than how we're living today.

31:52

I don't want my children to grow up like this.

31:55

When I see my daughter and how hard it is,

31:57

for her and her fiance to buy home. I see

31:59

my son having to go and take tests and

32:01

write things that he doesn't believe in just

32:03

to get an a. Right. I don't want that

32:06

for my children, but I don't want that for anybody's

32:08

children. And I think we owe it to everybody

32:10

to all invest and

32:11

say, We're gonna be part of the solution. We're not gonna

32:14

want and complain about it anymore.

32:16

Ambassador Haley, thank you for making this

32:18

time. Fun. I see. We'll see it on the campaign trail.

32:20

Thank you. I appreciate it.