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2:43

Well, for what I'm at least. What

2:46

a blessing for us to

2:49

be recording on Monday night. And

2:52

in the interest of full disclosure, we

2:55

planned on recording this show much

2:58

earlier, but we said we'd

3:00

play it by ear. Never did we think

3:02

that playing it by ear would

3:05

mean that we had to make

3:07

sure we watched to the end

3:09

of one guy scoring 70, and

3:12

then couldn't start after

3:14

that one because another guy might

3:17

get to 70. Crazy

3:19

for the first time in over 45 years.

3:25

We had, in fact,

3:28

it was April 9th, 1978, where

3:31

there were multiple 60-point games

3:33

in the same night. You

3:36

had David Thompson with 73

3:38

and George Gervin with 63

3:43

on that night in 1978. But

3:46

tonight we have Joel Embiid

3:48

with his 70-point performance and

3:51

Carl Anthony-Towne with his

3:53

62-point performance in,

3:56

unfortunately, a loss, as that

3:58

will be a footnote there. start with

4:00

the MB thing goes

4:04

up against the San Antonio Spurs. Uh,

4:08

when B so, you know, it's got the

4:10

MB when B stuff, you got the funny

4:12

clips that were going around from before the

4:14

game where went, uh, MB like kind of

4:16

walks up and he's behind

4:18

when B is like looking up at

4:21

him and whatever. It

4:24

is crazy when you see

4:27

MB walking by Victor

4:29

one, but Nama, and then you

4:31

realize how much bigger he is

4:34

even than him. And,

4:36

you know, obviously the, we

4:39

should have been crystal clear on that, given that

4:41

photo of him and the six

4:43

10 Marvin Bagley over the weekend,

4:45

or Bagley looks like a, a

4:48

guard or something like that. But anyways,

4:50

it starts off with that. Uh,

4:53

you figure and B can probably

4:55

have a good night against San Antonio because

4:57

San Antonio has been the home to a

4:59

lot of career highs and

5:01

records over the last couple of years.

5:04

But this was so extreme,

5:08

the 70 points. And even

5:10

when you go back and watch the highlights

5:13

to, to see a guy

5:15

of that size, I mean, the

5:18

mid range jumpers, the, I mean,

5:20

just every, he had everything going

5:22

tonight and that

5:24

was a blast to get to watch something

5:27

as historic as that, cause it does not

5:29

happen very often. The Spurs

5:31

had literally no answers for Joella Bead.

5:33

None. There's nothing that they could do.

5:35

They had Victor Webagnama on him at

5:37

the start of games and Bead was

5:39

just mid range pull ups, pounding

5:41

in B a pounding. When Ben Yama underneath

5:44

the rim and scoring inside, if he had

5:46

two guys on him, like what that call

5:48

him came into the game and he had

5:50

two guys on him. It didn't matter. Sometimes

5:52

he drove it in the paint and three

5:55

guys bodies around him. He rebounded the ball,

5:57

put it back in it. It did not

5:59

matter. And if he was forced to pass the

6:01

ball, he was just throwing

6:04

out a cyst and making his teammates

6:06

better. He had five assists in the

6:08

game. He had kind of like this

6:10

crazy pass inside, Jokic-esque type of pass

6:12

to a Carter Oubre at the rim.

6:16

There's just literally no answers at all.

6:18

It was pure dominance. It was fun to

6:20

watch. He was playing with joy. It was

6:22

so cool that it was at home in

6:24

front of Sixers fans. Dude

6:26

is just, I mean, he's just on an

6:29

absolute roll right now, man. It's incredible to

6:31

watch what he's doing. So

6:34

14 times in NBA history, we have

6:36

seen somebody score 70 points. This

6:39

coincidentally was on the

6:41

anniversary of Kobe Bryant's

6:43

81-point night, which is

6:45

a crazy coincidence. But

6:48

you had Wilt, obviously

6:51

with 100, Kobe with 81, and then

6:53

you go down the list and it's

6:55

Wilt, Will, Will, Will,

6:59

David Thompson, Will, Elgin

7:02

Baylor had 71, David Robinson had

7:05

71 on the last day of the season to

7:07

win the scoring title. Then we had

7:09

Donovan Mitchell, 71, Lillard, 71, Wilt, Booker, 70. That's

7:18

it. That's the list. Michael Jordan

7:20

is next on the list with 69 points. That

7:22

was his career high was Michael

7:25

Jordan's. Then of

7:27

course we had Ayana 64 earlier this year. But

7:33

you take out

7:35

all the, obviously we're counting

7:37

Wilt, is one guy

7:39

that had several performances. It's

7:42

only nine guys that

7:44

have ever done it in NBA

7:46

history. We

7:49

got Wilt Kobe, David Thompson,

7:52

Elgin Baylor, David

7:54

Robinson, Donovan Mitchell,

7:57

Damien Lillard, Devin Booker.

8:01

And now Joel and be unbelievable

8:03

nine players in NBA

8:06

history that have done it and

8:08

what's crazy to think about is I

8:10

went and you know Once you once you go down

8:13

that wormhole you really go down that wormhole Curry

8:16

had a 62. I think

8:19

the ones I'm

8:21

most surprised that are like

8:23

haven't gotten to that list or did not

8:25

are Curry during

8:28

his crazy run and harden

8:31

during his craziest of

8:33

runs Curry's

8:35

career. I 62 Hardens

8:39

is 61 then you think about all

8:41

these other great scorers, but the ramp the

8:44

ramp career eyes 55 He

8:46

hasn't even gotten 60. I know but

8:48

Grady had 62 Carmelo had

8:50

62 Carl Malone

8:52

and Shaq both had 61 Bird

8:55

and Iverson both had 60. Hmm,

8:59

and then you got some weird 60s, you know that

9:01

you forget Kyrie Brad

9:03

Biel Gilbert arenas

9:05

Kemba Walker I Do

9:08

not remember the Kemba Walker 60. I gotta go back

9:10

and check that one Jason

9:13

Tatum had a 60. Yeah, he's

9:16

on there too. So but you

9:18

think about just how Crazy

9:21

rare and we for sure

9:23

could have gotten to in

9:26

the same night town said What

9:29

44 at half 43 or 44 at half? So

9:35

he could have really gotten there Kind

9:37

of gassed out in the fourth. Yeah, it

9:40

sounds I was out of that game at a 43

9:42

at the half and he any 43 Yeah,

9:44

I mean in the grand city he ends with 62 Well,

9:49

we'll get to his game. Let's finish on and

9:51

buy let's see. There's more there's more to say

9:53

about Joel Yeah, your historical perspective

9:55

too. So we give you some of that.

9:58

Here's the other Thanksgiving

10:00

they're now 16 and 2 when he

10:02

plays. 30

10:06

plus and 21 straight games and

10:09

per 36 minutes and this number will inevitably

10:11

go up after a 70-point game tonight so

10:13

he might have overtaken it. Per

10:16

36 viddits he is averaging the

10:18

most points of anybody

10:20

since Wilt Chamberlain in 1961-62. Wow. Per

10:22

36. Since December 1st he is

10:25

averaging 40, 12, and 5.

10:27

His splits are

10:35

57% from the field, 42% from 3, 90% from the line. And

10:37

that's from December

10:42

1st you said? Yes. What was

10:44

the points for a game number you had before

10:47

tonight's game? 40. Let's

10:50

see now it's at 42.6 per 36 minutes so

10:52

it's... Well

10:56

no no no that's just per game. Per game

10:59

not even per 36. No! Per game! Per

11:06

game regular numbers per game he

11:08

said 40.3 now so it went

11:10

up by 0.3. Yeah 40, 12,

11:13

and 5. Unbelievable. Yeah. I

11:16

mean for the season he's averaging 36, 12, and

11:19

6 with two

11:21

blocks of the

11:23

steel and his

11:25

splits are crazy there. 54, 36, 89. This

11:32

is a crazy

11:35

season. Chris look

11:38

this summer when they hired Nick Nurse I

11:41

wrote an article in the wringer about how

11:43

like okay this could this could potentially open

11:46

up new dimensions of Embiid if they install

11:48

more motion in their offense and that

11:51

they have you know more handoffs and

11:53

more you know face-ups for Embiid. I

11:56

never thought this coming. I

11:59

never like nobody Could have seen and

12:01

been except maybe Joe Allen be than

12:03

the people in a circle could have seen

12:05

him reaching this level. I mean he's

12:07

one of the best shooters and basketball

12:09

is like straight up shooters. Duchess Big Sue.

12:12

For. One of the best shooters and basketball

12:14

we see that with a seventy point games

12:16

than ours is pulling up with a hand

12:19

in his face. from three from to it

12:21

doesn't matter. he's one of the best shooters

12:23

from the free throw line. He's a guy

12:25

above eighty percent near ninety percent over the

12:27

stretch you're talking about. He's a dominant post

12:30

up guy, even though now he's isolating even

12:32

more often any post ops post. Abs was

12:34

a recent read recently said about how. That.

12:37

Role as change. He was once where the heaviest

12:39

posts are. Guys are in the league by far.

12:41

He still is not quite as heavy

12:43

as used to be because he's isolating,

12:46

insists his is looking at the basket

12:48

and he surveying the floor, and he's

12:50

making passes and reading for teammates. And

12:52

be that A is. It like

12:55

he wins and M V P. And

12:57

now he is tapped into the higher

12:59

level of his game in part due

13:01

to system and what is demanded of

13:03

him in in part to do due

13:05

to his own individual player development. And

13:08

I think for the sixers people keep

13:10

saying like we did with joke. it's

13:12

all he needs the proven in the

13:14

postseason. He's gotta show he can do

13:16

it in the playoffs. This. Version

13:18

of Jolla Beat is prepared to do

13:20

it in the post season villa. He's

13:22

answering a lot of those questions, are

13:24

ready, and now it's things that translate

13:26

of course, but I have no reason

13:28

to believe or doubt that you on

13:30

a bead won't be able to do

13:32

this in the postseason. Considering what he's

13:34

turned himself into, it's genuinely remarkable that

13:36

he has had no complacency. After.

13:38

All his it's all the success of these.

13:40

Went through the Mvp last year that now

13:42

he is guy and even better as a

13:45

town of admirable really. Well. And

13:47

I think that was a bit so great.

13:49

Like that's why you gotta get him. they

13:51

gotta get some one bore guy. So.

13:54

That these teams can't just sell

13:56

out on him. When. It

13:58

comes to the playoffs with done. They were day

14:00

in trouble and. And and then say will live.

14:03

Will. Live With It's. Fine. If we

14:05

lose to kill you Bray and. Or

14:07

Nicholas bathroom. The We Lose The

14:09

Collider. An era of yeah. Go

14:11

ahead. Go. And have twenty a go

14:13

at averaged thirty a game. Tobias Harris to the

14:16

we're not going to have that or article as

14:18

you'd have seventy. No. Mass.

14:20

Effect Would I get A lead? You have thirty. Whoop

14:23

Whoop Whoop Dedicate. There will be a guy on

14:25

you and a guy behind you. Every job you

14:27

testable. Unless that's why you

14:29

need one more city, one more the

14:31

got max. That's. Been a revelation

14:34

city one more. To go

14:36

with those guys, How good is that? One more

14:38

need to be in European doesn't need to be

14:40

like of top. Twenty five player or

14:42

can have a non one you can not.

14:45

Leave. Noom

14:47

sand but what level we talk a lot of

14:49

like the names that are on the free market

14:51

right now. Where. I get Is there a

14:53

guy that. I. Get like this exact

14:56

Levine who is very expensive. Very

14:58

pricey. Is it Is

15:00

it. The Gulliver Them. Seriously.

15:02

Ah. How good of the player

15:04

need to be. I would say

15:06

levine level or better. The.

15:08

For. Yeah. I think so

15:10

does not. They murray good or is there too

15:13

much overlap or is very much overlap? Ah,

15:15

so you want? you know? Someone?

15:17

Someone? Tobias, Harris Fi or. Or.

15:20

Or. Multiples. Your.

15:23

Main and with the or talked about this. Where.

15:26

You go, Snag a Bogdanovich

15:28

Edu snag Hey. Bruce.

15:30

Brown even. The. I'm saying like

15:33

up, say it like your years now I got

15:35

know a guy. Who are three

15:37

more guys? So. Now more

15:39

balance out. Where.

15:42

He. Doesn't necessarily have is if

15:44

you're not going to get one.

15:47

Big. One. Then. You

15:49

need to get a couple more. That.

15:51

You could go to the video will come

15:53

out with your oven to play and and

15:56

again this is all with end. This.

15:58

Is when you're playing the walkie. this one. The player

16:00

boston this when you're playing Miami. Maybe.

16:03

When you play in the next maybe

16:05

we can play in the Cavs. No

16:07

doubt that he needs a is like

16:09

joke. It's has it as small mari

16:11

and been as far as maxi. Both.

16:14

Of them have a lot of good role players, but.

16:16

Joke. It's has Aaron Gordon and he of

16:18

Michael Porter Jr. And prize somebody

16:21

who can catch fire. Gordimer, somebody that we

16:23

saw him beat up mismatches. or he can

16:25

play the standard role player stuff hustling on

16:27

the Feds making connect the dots a spot

16:29

of shooting. but he can also create with

16:31

the post ops against smaller guys and been

16:34

needs like I think those secondary weapons the

16:36

you're talking when he's got the role players

16:38

he's gonna die it by anyone else. guy

16:40

that peace and those guys are super role

16:42

player suit or at the guy that was

16:45

just talk about like the bike the answers

16:47

about Bogdanovich at Brown and that had a

16:49

guy like. You. Could. You.

16:51

Could throw together a group of guys like you. You.

16:54

Still going to be by and threw him and maxi. right?

16:57

Side: I need somebody that's gonna come in there to

16:59

twenty show. Know. Even

17:01

I needed somebody who can take twenty

17:04

shots yet to strengthen it all around

17:06

it. You. Know and.

17:09

I mean he is just been out

17:11

of control great so far this year.

17:13

A and. I could not

17:15

help but think kevin as this is

17:18

going on and were all sitting there

17:20

just totally enthralled and I'm sick. And

17:22

seventy points this is a signature night.

17:25

Book. Is this season is having. Guys.

17:27

Missed What. Eleven. Of

17:29

forty two. That told you

17:32

the beginning of the season. Yup, This

17:34

will last one season has anybody

17:36

who gets there will be a

17:38

riot over there. If.

17:40

He doesn't get the sixty five. Disease

17:43

that been like insert into. And

17:45

he's with Eleven Forty Two. And

17:48

this is all in the honor of. You.

17:50

Know. Getting. Guys to play

17:52

and. Trying to eliminate

17:55

load management as it were.

17:57

An. Just. Imagine.

18:00

I get there is a part of me to go

18:02

up bro. Years. He's.

18:04

Not on pace to get that the number

18:06

that needs to get there. And

18:08

did you imagine we see what are

18:11

the greatest season and be a history.

18:14

And he is unable to be all

18:16

and be a on a both of

18:18

them bus Mvp is unable to be

18:20

all this crap because of of eat.

18:23

It every. That

18:26

is. It unmitigated

18:29

disaster. Truly.

18:31

Than any apply it all out. But.

18:34

I mean he thought our place to get the

18:36

that number. He. Can deploy more that

18:38

he didn't the first forty two. In.

18:40

Order to get there. And. Not Abba

18:43

A Go that keeps. Yeah, we're

18:45

seven games and not ever I.

18:48

I don't know man. Uttered of. Is

18:50

certainly and then we'll get the whole

18:53

debate. This was not the spirit of

18:55

the rule was not to penalize guys

18:57

that do boy on right? Yeah, Ah.

19:00

I. Knew this was gotta have it. I knew it.

19:03

I knew this is gonna happen. And

19:06

it's gonna be. That

19:08

is miscarriage of justice. System.

19:12

Seriously. Adjusted this was

19:15

such a signature night do with

19:17

the seventy. It like is a

19:19

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19:21

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19:24

and so. Added and ears

19:26

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19:29

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19:31

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And. Not only. Com. It's

22:02

that Connelly being out then

22:04

illuminates that there's nobody else.

22:07

There's nobody else to settle it down and get

22:09

it all organized. So it's just

22:11

kind of whoever's got the ball

22:14

come and do it. And Anthony Edwards, so

22:17

it's like one

22:19

pass maximum possessions like they

22:21

just, and they end

22:23

up losing that game, which then,

22:26

you know, puts a

22:28

huge damper on what was

22:30

another historic scoring night that took

22:32

place with towns of 62, but damn,

22:35

man, that's a, that's a tough one for your

22:37

62 to come in a loss to

22:39

the Hornets at home. It was such

22:41

a weird game because like you said,

22:43

he was, he couldn't miss anything, especially

22:46

from deep on the jumpers. Eric

22:49

Holland going crazy over at screaming. And

22:52

then, you know, he gets to 60 and

22:54

Eric, he pulled

22:56

the one, but

23:00

then he got the 60 and Eric Collins had a

23:02

good line in the fourth quarter. He was like, I

23:04

don't think I've ever said this before. Cat

23:07

stuck on 60. He

23:11

wasn't scoring and he got to 62, but

23:14

then he got pulled with like three, four minutes left.

23:16

And I, I'm not sure like

23:18

I haven't seen Chris Fincher's post game presser

23:20

and he may not say the honest answer

23:22

anyway, but they pull cat.

23:25

Was it because he was tired or was

23:27

it because he like the team was just

23:29

sucking cause they were generating any good

23:31

buckets at all. What was it? Was it cause

23:33

he was like ran out of steam and was

23:35

sucking or was he just tired? What was the

23:37

reason that they pulled cat or strange? I

23:40

think he had already played 38. Maybe.

23:42

Yeah. But like you've got to play 40. You

23:45

gotta play 44 in the playoffs sometimes, but you

23:47

gotta be able to get that out of you at

23:49

some point. Well, and also if

23:51

you got 62 points,

23:53

you think you'd go after, you

23:55

know, right. You got a chance at going

23:58

after it. And that. Last. And

24:01

blowingly nine point lead yet elegant

24:03

way to win. Not. Lame.

24:06

Oh drives I did. Yeah

24:08

we the to mid or boards probably get as a

24:10

yeah filed. Like of a mellow it on

24:12

his drive. A. Guy like out like

24:14

a figure who have and on his eyes what

24:16

one of them are job. So

24:19

I don't know. How.

24:24

Yeah. Well I mean luxuries That

24:26

urology is the all time wars.

24:29

When. It comes to. Act

24:31

like a weenie. He. Really? Good

24:35

faith of sorry I like it. I mean, it

24:37

was a weaning couple of nights for the for

24:39

the wolves they lose to the Thunder at home

24:41

and around. and now. We're. Minnesota and

24:43

and that they lose the Thunder at home

24:45

on Saturday night and an. Aunt's

24:47

crying after the game about Gilda thousand again

24:50

fall calls and then tonight they blow and

24:52

eighteen point lead And like you said the

24:54

big part of this is not having my

24:56

calmly and if you don't have your what.

24:59

My. Com is really good. But. If.

25:01

You. Can't get going on offense

25:03

without a mid to late thirty

25:06

year old point guard who's. Nine.

25:08

His primary know you take away from

25:10

in the I play an amazing I

25:12

know he has been under same as

25:14

you gotta have other answers besides the

25:16

guy who's a when he needs rest

25:18

were you can't always right you gotta

25:21

have other answers and they don't That.

25:23

You. Say that but we got good

25:25

teams around the league. I eat Phoenix.

25:27

I eat. The. Pelicans who both

25:29

have this. happens when you get

25:31

into these nip tuck games down

25:33

the stretch they become a mess.

25:36

Do. You. Need a point guard?

25:38

You need an organizer by doesn't want to

25:40

say was used you. You need to find

25:42

those answers. There are some backup point guard

25:44

like you know what you need to find

25:46

those answers from from somebody like I'd for.

25:48

For Boston it's always been the thing would

25:50

pay them and brown part of it still

25:52

is the thing with them. Can

25:54

Jason Tatum find that Keynesian around? Find

25:57

that in the biggest moments in the

25:59

postseason? We. We thought and the you

26:01

know a granted by you can argue they

26:03

got some good shots the other nights with

26:05

their law against Denver still down the stretch

26:07

of that game. I didn't feel

26:09

like Tatum was getting the most quality

26:12

shots. Compared. To lie and

26:14

so I think would date him as

26:16

still a thing where I am situation

26:18

so I think you need it cause

26:20

it just gets your part it's to

26:22

come out at the gave all that

26:24

the i'm stuck silver medalist pray for

26:26

a barrage brain in a bird fly

26:28

back but it doesn't matter of isi

26:31

I cannot always yes sir. With

26:34

her assess. Assess

26:37

to secure the as A.

26:40

Car it's like sports comedy. really like

26:42

that type of thing for agree with

26:45

that said Malawi use why is this

26:47

or that when you yeah Well he

26:49

came up with that like thirty am

26:51

in the morning users tomorrow for hours.

26:54

On a know you're right, those are those are the

26:56

lessons or a mess but that's what separates. I mean

26:59

like this. the. Would.

27:01

Be like that's what separates the the good

27:03

players and the great players. Great players from

27:05

the amazing players and like what do the

27:07

there's only so many guys are can carry

27:09

a team and drag him all the way

27:11

to the N B A finals and to

27:13

hoist the trophy of the and in a

27:15

lot of a thigh. Most of the time

27:17

those are the guys that can generate shots

27:19

at the end of the clock in clutch

27:22

moments in big games and also know how

27:24

to settle a team down the stretch of

27:26

those games when you're going through adversity and

27:28

Minnesota multiple times the season is showing and

27:30

less. It's my timely. The. Can't do

27:32

that and and that's concerning for them

27:34

and one of the reasons why they

27:36

need to be really really address and

27:38

finding another point guard out there of

27:40

calmly at his age cannot always rely

27:43

that he'll be out there healthy. Able.

27:45

To be able to perform. Just

27:47

the reality of it And and and

27:49

I told you just from my perspective

27:51

that is the team that should be

27:53

putting together the best offer they can.

27:55

To get. Ties Jones. Former.

27:58

Tommy. Hometown

28:00

kid. Also could be.

28:03

I. Think would be of

28:05

a perfect going forward succession

28:07

plan post Conlon. I.

28:11

Think I'm with you, That would be

28:13

the ideal spot. For. Him.

28:17

And and obviously. I

28:20

don't know if you look at as a good get

28:22

to be a hell a hell of a bidding for

28:24

him to that because a lot of teams could use

28:26

his services. And. As someone who.

28:28

Covered. Ham and watched all of his games.

28:31

For. The last three years of. One.

28:34

Of my. Top.

28:37

Five. Favorites:

28:40

In terms of. Like. Odd.

28:43

Off court guys. Ties

28:45

ya the best. Any organization is lucky

28:47

to have him. He. Could start

28:49

for you. He could come off the bench

28:51

for you. Add. He is

28:54

in unbelievable t may Great in

28:56

the community, great family like easy.

28:58

I loved him. Years. The thing

29:00

though, Where. Do you given

29:02

up. My. Get if I know that sort

29:04

of thing in of ties of does have a

29:07

more security pretty much your your art of. Most.

29:10

Of your future pixie to do swaps.

29:13

But you can't You cannot read trader first.

29:15

Yeah, you have to the swamps and seconds

29:17

You have the ability to trade Leonard Beller,

29:20

but you really want to trade twenty year

29:22

old versatile for no one will ever. You're

29:24

very high on view. the wanna trade like

29:27

one of those young guys, the kilos under

29:29

water who's want to your better defenders monsieur

29:31

on the perimeter or giving out by me

29:33

like and I know that sounds silly to

29:36

even bring up like Thailand or Senate. The

29:38

nine million dollar salary he has is likely

29:40

what's going after being buried in the same.

29:42

Way that I said with my calmly or you

29:45

you rely on him as a bit much. Kyle

29:47

Anderson has also wanted your leaders them locker room

29:49

for if you're giving up one of the leaders

29:51

in your locker room. The. How does

29:53

that affect team chemistry for a team

29:55

that let's be honest has some fragile

29:57

characters and a lot of immaturity there?

30:00

You want that guy in the

30:02

playoffs you want another guy I

30:04

covered you want now Anderson to

30:06

defer What he brings to

30:08

the table he could defend five

30:11

different positions if you need him to

30:14

He keeps the ball moving He

30:17

can also you know handle the

30:19

ball and kind of get things settled down for you

30:21

as well many times. So Yeah,

30:24

right. They don't have much if they don't have much I

30:28

think I think financially you you get

30:31

you're close if you do Shake

30:34

Milton and Troy Brown

30:36

that that I believe that could

30:38

work financially They're

30:40

gonna get such a better offer than that. That's

30:42

the problem. Like if you're doing those two guys

30:46

And you're giving up, you know a swapper

30:48

some seconds. I don't think that's the best

30:50

offer out there for Tyus Jones There's too

30:52

many teams that want Tyus Jones that I

30:54

think Washington is in a position where They

30:57

can they can do better than what Minnesota can

30:59

offer But we'll see we've been surprised before maybe

31:02

a team besides not to but I don't know

31:04

why a team wouldn't Tyus Jones has been One

31:06

of the bright spots from the Wizards this year.

31:08

He's having the best scoring season of his entire

31:11

career He's shooting 42% from three. He's near the

31:13

top of the NBA and pick and roll scoring

31:15

efficiency He still doesn't turn the ball over ever.

31:17

It's rare to see him turn it over. He's

31:20

reliable He tries hard on defense and all the

31:22

X Factor stuff that you said who wouldn't want

31:24

Tyus Jones But I don't see how Washington couldn't

31:26

get a good amount of trade target

31:28

in my short And I think a guy

31:30

that could really swing things for a franchise

31:34

So this is a historic night obviously

31:37

with the MB performance and the town's

31:39

performance But we

31:41

gotta mention a couple other things that took place We

31:44

got to pay notice to this Cavs thing So

31:47

they're now eight straight and

31:50

not only are they eight straight not a

31:52

run And I know the schedule was soft

31:54

in the beginning with the two Washington's and

31:56

San Antonio Brooklyn to start it but

31:59

then They followed that up

32:01

by beating Chicago by 18. They

32:03

beat Milwaukee without Giannis, but by,

32:06

they beat it by 40. Then they

32:08

won at Atlanta by 20.

32:11

Then they turned around and smoked

32:14

Orlando by 27 tonight. At

32:17

Orlando, they have flown

32:20

up the metrics on defense.

32:23

And you've got this Jared Allen who I think

32:25

it's 12 straight, double

32:27

doubles and he's anchoring what has been, well,

32:31

as good as defenses that have been in

32:33

the entire NBA over this

32:35

stretch. They're now top four in

32:37

the East and Donovan

32:39

Mitchell's gone crazy. Jared Allen's gone

32:42

crazy. They've got this mix with

32:44

the raw guys and this is

32:46

all without Garland and

32:48

without Mobley. And

32:51

I don't know, I think it's something

32:53

to certainly pay mine to

32:55

because their defense

32:57

has just been so unbelievable.

33:00

And these

33:02

numbers that they're putting up, I mean,

33:05

they're bombing people out and

33:08

holding them to less than a hundred, which

33:11

is just crazy. And now

33:13

it's eight in a row. Like

33:15

I said, at Atlanta, at

33:17

Orlando, is not an easy two

33:20

games in a row to go destroy

33:22

people. And they destroyed both

33:24

of them. And those are

33:27

for as bad as that. And I

33:29

know that the Orlando can be offensively

33:31

deficient. Atlanta

33:33

or at least Atlanta can usually score.

33:37

Right. And you

33:39

got to pay some

33:41

notice. So we always, we got to start believing in

33:43

the Cavs a little bit. I

33:45

think my thoughts with Cleveland haven't changed too much

33:47

since the last time we spoke to them in

33:50

the sense that I said, Hey,

33:52

they have their tougher stretch coming up and

33:55

they have two games against the box on

33:57

the road this week. They have the Clippers.

34:00

next week. So that's, that's three

34:02

really good tests for them. Uh,

34:04

that's going to really show who they are. Granted,

34:07

they did just destroy the bucks.

34:09

No Yana though, but you still

34:11

face Dan, you face Middleton, you face Rick Lopez

34:13

and you destroyed those guys. It's still a quality

34:16

bucks team, but like this is the bigger test. Yes.

34:19

By 40 destroyed them. So this

34:21

is the bigger test to against the bucks, one

34:24

against the Clippers. This will be a better for bra

34:26

man or for where they are. Um,

34:29

but, but ultimately I do think overall it's

34:31

relates to the other conversation that we had

34:33

recently about them where you take away Mobley

34:36

and you take away Garland and it

34:38

has created balance in their rotation where

34:40

you're playing with through Mitchell, you

34:43

have Alan Pafide, you have spacing

34:45

with all your wings with O'Cora who

34:47

has become a better shooter. Dean

34:49

Wade who has been awesome two

34:51

way guy for them. He has turned

34:54

into something really valuable. Max truce still

34:56

isn't even shooting as well as he

34:58

did for Miami last year, but a

35:00

solid two way guy. And, and everybody

35:02

else sprinkled into that rotation, but the

35:04

team feels very balanced. So I think

35:06

you could just play everything off this

35:08

pick and roll. Yeah. It's like, we've

35:10

got a guy that turns the corner,

35:12

a guy that finishes the lobs and

35:15

then I could just kick it out. Go

35:17

look at the guys that I did. Sam

35:19

Merrill, he was here with the

35:21

frigging Memphis hustle a couple of years ago. And,

35:24

uh, yeah, they get 26 off

35:27

the bench tonight. I mean, it's

35:29

like, yeah, it's a Gunner's paradise. Yeah.

35:33

100%. Yep. Yep. And so I think, I

35:38

think for them, I mean, look,

35:40

I've, I've always been skeptical

35:43

about Mobley always.

35:45

Like I thought Mobley was a for

35:47

sure thing, elite defensive talent,

35:50

which he is, he already is

35:52

offensively. I've never been certain with him, uh, becoming,

35:55

you know, how he was imagined by some,

35:57

and I'm still not. And I think

35:59

with Mobley there's real. questions about what he

36:01

can be as a shooter. He still

36:03

has subpar touch near the rim.

36:05

He's still an average free throw shooter. He

36:07

has not shown any development at

36:09

all for mid-range or from three, and

36:11

that creates friction in the front court

36:14

alongside Jared Allen. So I think with

36:16

them, the same thing applies

36:18

with Garland and Mitchell in the back court

36:20

where there's a lot of overlapping skills with

36:22

both of them being on-ball guys. Garland feels

36:24

a bit redundant at times. They're both smaller

36:27

guards. The interesting thing here

36:29

for Cleveland from a

36:31

big picture perspective, if

36:34

the team is playing this well with

36:36

Dean Wade and Isaac O'Coro and Merrill

36:38

and and the screws and all these

36:40

guys flanking Allen and

36:42

Mitchell, well, hey, what

36:46

could you get if you actually

36:48

are willing to entertain trades for

36:50

guys in their young twenties like

36:52

Evan Mobley and Darius Garland? What

36:54

is the big move you could

36:56

actually make that would really take

36:58

you up another level with a

37:00

star level talent that fits alongside

37:02

Mitchell and Allen? Just the thought

37:04

in the back of my mind. I'm not sure

37:06

that player is even available that you would move

37:08

one of those guys. I would have to know

37:11

that Donovan Mitchell is going to be with me

37:13

for the next four years. And that's the big

37:15

factor that is looming over all of it. But

37:17

if you can turn it and if you can

37:19

turn yourself into a team that he would be

37:21

dumb to leave, sometimes

37:23

like he gets the risk you got to take. Yeah.

37:27

And look, get those guys

37:29

back healthy. That team went through a

37:31

lot of injuries early in the season.

37:33

I think it's just hard for

37:35

us. We can't get out of our head the

37:38

way they were emasculated by the Knicks last

37:40

year. Oh, no, I know when it because

37:42

they had a really great season last year. And

37:45

then they got emasculated in the playoffs. Truly

37:48

masculine. And so it's like, all right, do you

37:51

have anything different that's not going to, you

37:53

know, that's going to change with that?

37:56

But yeah, just basic basketball. They got a

37:59

they've got a Paradise going right now with an

38:01

amazing guard, a center that's

38:03

playing amazing, two guys that fit great

38:06

together and then being able to just

38:08

swing this thing around and knock down

38:10

shots. You mentioned those Milwaukee games coming

38:13

up. Those are super fascinating, Kevin, because

38:15

as I said, Cleveland's as good as defense as

38:18

there is in the world recently and

38:20

just strangling people out

38:23

offensively, and that's what

38:26

Milwaukee is known for is there,

38:28

is this amazing offense because

38:30

their defense is abominable

38:35

in January. Do you know they are 28th, 28th.

38:41

Milwaukee has given up 122 points per 100 possessions

38:43

in 10 games. It's

38:50

unfathomable. I know, but the longer this

38:52

goes, they could be 28th. The

38:55

longer this goes, the more worrying it becomes. True.

38:58

Well, and they keep saying, you know, everybody keeps

39:00

saying it's like, well, the starters, right,

39:02

still, you know, bomb you out, right? The

39:05

starters still have a great net rating. Starters

39:07

still have this going for them, but it's

39:09

like, geez, then

39:11

how the hell are you 28th in, you

39:14

know, I get it. You

39:17

could score a ton, but that's

39:19

why this offense versus defense with

39:21

this Cavs thing. We're about to

39:23

see if this defense, yeah,

39:26

it's one thing to strangle out,

39:28

uh, you know, uh, the wizards

39:30

and the nets and the spurs,

39:33

but kind of upped a little bit

39:35

by doing it to the Bulls and doing it

39:37

to Atlanta and doing it to Orlando. This is

39:40

the real test. We're about to find out if

39:42

this Cleveland defense is truly like one

39:45

of the best three or four defenses in

39:47

the NBA as they have performed, or

39:49

if it's more of

39:52

a function of, uh, of the schedule.

39:55

I'm actually looking forward to

39:57

the Bucks, uh, Hawks

39:59

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40:01

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best offer for Design Three? Murray? who

41:39

is or hate rhetoric. A career best

41:41

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41:43

who has interest from other teams including

41:45

the Lakers and they have incentive to

41:47

be aggressive? I just can't imagine the

41:50

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41:52

the best offer unless the Hawks are

41:54

obsessed with Andre Jackson or something like

41:56

that they really believe and Andrew Jackson.

41:58

the let's say, Let's say the Hawks had

42:00

Andre Jackson at 12 on their board or

42:04

10 on their board. And they believe that he's going

42:06

to be a perfect piece next to Trey. Unless

42:08

that's the case, I just, I

42:10

don't see how the Bucks can even be

42:12

in on Dajante Murray. It's just shocking. But

42:14

at the same time, I don't like the

42:16

fit anyway. How come I'm just curious. How

42:19

come next to Dame? I mean, I

42:22

just watched him with Trey Young.

42:25

Uh, and I'm, I'm with you. I'm with

42:27

you. I don't love the fit either. However,

42:29

he, he in theory is a better

42:31

point of attack defender than what they

42:34

have, if he returns to form like

42:36

he was in the early days of San Antonio, which

42:38

was a long time ago, he was an all defensive

42:40

player. He progressively got worse,

42:42

but defensively as his offensive role has

42:45

increased over the years. So

42:47

he would really have to be on his best

42:49

behavior playing with a chip on his shoulder in

42:51

order to return to that prior level. With

42:54

that said, he, he has

42:56

become something this season that he's never

42:58

been offensively. He's always been streaky, but

43:00

he's progressively gotten better as a free

43:03

throw shooter, as a mid range shooter.

43:05

If the three point shot this year is for real at 38% on

43:07

the season after being a

43:09

32% guy post torn

43:12

ACL, after being a non

43:14

shooter, pre ACL injury. It's,

43:17

it's intriguing to think about what he is

43:20

today. And if this is actually sustainable, when

43:22

you factor in that, if he's on a

43:24

contending team, maybe he taps back into his

43:27

prime level on defense. Wow.

43:29

And look, and as we're having

43:31

this discussion in the background of

43:33

my TV, they're getting their ass kicked by the

43:36

Kings. I mean,

43:38

I don't,

43:41

I don't, I don't love this. I

43:43

don't love this. Yeah. I

43:45

would find a bigger, a bigger

43:48

guard. Uh, I

43:50

do think they need help with the two for sure.

43:53

Right. Unless they're going to be able to

43:55

do the, you know, move crowd or down and

43:57

then add Middleton just play too. But like. I

44:00

want somebody that I can, I

44:03

want somebody like the, the

44:06

role playing defender that I

44:08

can throw on your opposing

44:10

point guard to try to screw up your

44:13

offense, you know, that I

44:15

can also have on a wing, but I

44:17

can also have on your point guard and

44:19

then I can hide dang. He

44:21

could go over there to the corner and, and,

44:23

and, uh, you know, play a

44:25

thumb war with uh, Isaac occurs of the

44:27

world. Why can't that be Andre Jackson? And

44:30

I know I'm sure Adrian Griffin, if he

44:32

were listening to our podcast, he would be

44:34

saying, cause he gets five falls in 20

44:36

minutes. That's why it can't be him.

44:38

But to that, I would say, well, why don't you just play

44:41

him 25 minutes every single night

44:43

instead of going like 10 minutes, one night,

44:45

20 minutes, another night, 12 minutes, another night.

44:47

Why don't you just make him part of

44:49

your regular rotation, invest in him and see

44:51

if he can get better at not

44:54

falling over the course of the season, make

44:57

that investment now so that he can be

44:59

your stopper in the post season. It's not

45:01

like he hasn't had moments this year, particularly

45:03

in that like the one game this, this

45:05

month that the bucks looked good defensively was

45:08

against Boston and Andre Jackson played

45:10

like 15 minutes in that game. I thought he

45:12

did a good job slowing down Boston, getting into

45:14

their half court offense with his on ball pressure.

45:17

So to me, I think they have

45:19

some answers from within, whether it's

45:21

system changes, whether it's the way

45:24

he's using his rotation. I

45:26

want to see the investment in Andre Jackson.

45:28

Like I think that the bucks, he shot

45:31

well enough on limited amount of jumpers that

45:33

like he doesn't look like a complete liability. So

45:36

like, let's see what he looks like

45:38

with a full investment and see

45:40

if he's actually the guy from winning because

45:42

he fits exactly what you just

45:44

described 100% to with T. That's what

45:47

the bucks need is what you hope Andre Jackson

45:50

becomes. So let's see it. Next

45:52

thing that we need to talk about. So I had

45:54

a written down that the sons that had their guys

45:56

for seven games in a row, they had won five

45:58

of those. So now you got to up that. It's

46:00

eight and that goes to six because as

46:02

we were recording they just beat the Bulls

46:04

and Storm back they

46:06

were getting their ass kicked and then in

46:08

the second half had 66

46:12

points and out scored the

46:15

Bulls in the second half 66

46:18

to 47 to push that

46:20

up to To

46:23

push that up to what is that six

46:25

now? Yeah, six

46:27

of the last eight and

46:29

I believe They have as

46:31

long a winning streak as anybody the West

46:33

it's now yeah that that win streaks now

46:35

at six That they have

46:38

going after they beat the Bulls

46:41

Durant had 43 in the

46:44

game and so it's something they certainly we

46:46

got it. We got a monitor this they're

46:48

about to go on a Very

46:51

long road trip that starts Wednesday

46:54

night They go at Dallas at

46:56

Indiana at Orlando at Miami at

46:58

Brooklyn They got a really long

47:01

road trip ahead, so we're

47:03

gonna find out with them But

47:06

certainly very impressive as of

47:09

late with the three guys In

47:12

unison and it's it's something to

47:14

monitor because I was

47:17

not you know Maybe I just need to

47:19

talk down on them because as I did at

47:22

the beginning of the month after we had watched

47:24

them lose To Memphis and the Clippers back

47:27

to back and the Clippers just killed them Starting

47:30

with that Lakers game on January 11th.

47:32

They have not lost the game since

47:35

Not exactly a who's who of opponents

47:38

but you know going to

47:40

New Orleans on a Friday night and

47:42

beating them like a drum and Then

47:45

turning around and beating Indiana and Chicago

47:48

back to back or The

47:50

I guess you saw the you saw the worst

47:52

of and the best of in the Chicago game

47:54

tonight The worst of was the beginning of the

47:56

game and really the first half and then the

47:58

best of is that second half

48:01

and they keep that win streak going. So

48:03

it, we at least got to start paying

48:06

attention to like, Hey, is this Phoenix thing

48:08

starting to come together? And I think we'll probably find

48:10

out on this road trip, right? Oh, for sure. I

48:12

mean, this, this road trip is a massive test. You're

48:14

on the road for like 10 days and

48:16

you get some tough opponents throughout that stretch

48:18

and some easier opponents too. But you would

48:21

think Indiana, uh, that, that next game, it'll

48:23

be with Hallibur and he was out for

48:25

the game, uh, last night. So

48:27

I mean, maybe you'll be Hallibur and and

48:29

see outcome for that game. And like Miami's

48:31

tough, you have some easier games though in

48:33

that. And then you return home and you

48:35

get Milwaukee and that's your last game ahead

48:37

of the trade deadline. And

48:40

then Utah, Golden State Sacramento, maybe Sacramento

48:42

is back on track by that point.

48:44

You have some, a pretty tough stretch

48:46

at this point coming up. And

48:48

I think that's true for a number

48:50

of teams with better kind of in that position

48:52

where will they, or will they not make a

48:54

move? The Lakers are in that

48:57

spot as well. On Tuesday night, they

48:59

have a game against the Clippers, LeBron's

49:01

not playing in that. And then

49:03

they have a home game before they have

49:05

a six game 10 night

49:07

road trip that leads right up to the

49:09

trade deadline. And on deadline night, they face

49:11

Denver after the clock passes, they

49:14

face a nuggets that night. So

49:16

if you have some teams in the West that have

49:18

been up and down throughout the season, where will they

49:20

make a move? Do they have the assets to make

49:22

the type of move they want to make? Like these

49:24

next two weeks, two

49:27

road trips for Phoenix and the

49:29

Lakers and a tough stretch for the Warriors

49:31

too. Like, like this is going

49:33

to determine a lot of how the rest of

49:35

the season's going to look depending on how these

49:37

teams perform over the next couple

49:39

of weeks. I'm like, I'm really excited

49:41

for, for some of this. This is

49:43

kind of that pivot point of the year where we're

49:46

past the midpoint of

49:49

the season. It sucks. We're

49:51

not, it sucks. We're not going to get to

49:53

see them playing against each other

49:56

because the Clippers are 0

49:58

and 2 Again. The.

50:00

Lakers and they are playing out

50:02

tomorrow night that they are since

50:04

they started old five with Harden.

50:07

They. Are a been a twenty four

50:09

and seven? Since. Then. And

50:11

so I wish you could see both those a

50:13

full strength the do one imagine Since we've been

50:15

talking about some of the other teams that have

50:18

been. So good.

50:20

The Cavs. The. Sun's is something to

50:22

monitor. ah, that Milwaukee defense or something

50:24

to continue to monitor. The last one

50:26

is that seemed it's gonna be the

50:28

first game on Tnt on Tuesday night

50:30

and that is the next. Day

50:33

or the as of crazies that I

50:35

was reading a Judge Humans article. This.

50:38

Morning and. The.

50:40

Knicks are nine and two. With.

50:43

Oh gee, In a know be. So. This A

50:45

team. You're talking about teams making a move. This one

50:47

that's already made their move. Yeah. Okay

50:49

now I want to make whatever you want to make

50:51

another one. this this okay deadline or this summer they

50:53

want to know your mother to. Pay.

50:56

Our eight and one. With.

50:59

Oh gee, And an Ob and Jaylen Bronson.

51:02

And this is the know that is

51:04

just. Ludicrous. Kevin. Oh

51:07

dear to know be and game and brunson.

51:11

Per. One hundred possessions. Have

51:14

outscored their opponents, Five.

51:16

Twenty seven points per

51:19

one hundred possessions while.

51:22

Half. Of. All

51:24

the combination. In

51:26

the league. That. Have played over

51:29

two hundred minutes, And

51:31

that would apply to over

51:33

a thousand. Combinations.

51:36

In the N B A. It. Is

51:38

by far the best. And

51:41

number two and number three. Both.

51:43

Also include algae and an open. While.

51:47

Twenty. Seven. Twenty

51:50

Seven. Bob. Says is a.

51:52

Forty. He met Rady. With.

51:55

The physical on the gore. At

51:57

the same time. a

52:00

And my, oh my,

52:02

it's like a, it's like a souped up version of

52:04

when we saw them make that run and it was

52:06

him and you remember Finney

52:08

Smith, uh, for

52:10

Dallas when, when

52:13

they were making that Western Conference finals run.

52:16

And this is, this

52:19

has worked out more brilliantly.

52:22

We both really liked this acquisition,

52:25

but usually things

52:27

take some time. Not

52:29

only is this not taken

52:31

any time, it has been

52:33

ridiculously devastating already and, and they

52:35

played a net tomorrow night. So,

52:37

I mean, you'd imagine they'll chalk

52:40

up another one, but I start

52:42

paying some mind to the Knicks because these

52:45

numbers are pretty crazy. And if we

52:47

get to the, you know, we

52:50

all, we, we've always said that's the team

52:52

that when the, when the draws come

52:55

out for the playoffs, they're going to be, you're,

52:58

there's no picnic with them. No,

53:01

I love the, the quote that, uh,

53:04

Tom Thibodeau had recently saying, O.G. And

53:06

an OB is a defense unto himself.

53:09

And I mean, like Tim's just must be

53:11

like having dreams thinking about how to deploy

53:13

him against opponents and having the time of

53:16

his life, having O.G. on the team. And

53:18

then, then you got Bruce Brown.

53:20

It's trade to the Raptors. He says

53:23

with a real microphone in front of

53:25

his face on the record, I'm a

53:27

Tom Thibodeau player, I do

53:30

whatever he wants me to do if

53:32

the Knicks were to trade for me. So

53:36

imagine if they somehow ended up with,

53:38

with, uh, imagine if you're like one

53:40

of these other teams and you look

53:43

up and they got O.G. And a

53:45

no B Josh Hart and Bruce Brown,

53:47

man, that's a bunch of dogs. I

53:50

mean, it's like, that's, that's

53:53

where, you Know, the, uh,

53:55

the, the bad acting wings. When They

53:57

go to hell, that's who they see.

54:00

Yeah. Yeah state so have been

54:02

here I am oh gee to

54:04

know be oh you're you got

54:06

you early. Fall here comes Josh.

54:08

Heart of who here comes Bruce

54:10

Breathless said the war's like that.

54:13

That's like the level. Of

54:15

is like them. use your one door and it's

54:17

the by am he he he go the other

54:19

door and it would be the next day. Might

54:22

be that exactly way would they give that bitter

54:24

Robinson have been. My. God

54:26

they're going to be able to snuff some people out.

54:29

Plus. Twenty seven per one hundred

54:31

possessions is just. Ridiculous.

54:36

You know the I think. I

54:38

think with the next part of their successors

54:40

month of courses. Oh gee, and

54:43

the trade they made by Isaiah heart

54:45

and seen as well as been sensational

54:47

for them like you beyond Middle Robinson

54:49

and Heart seen offensively, he's always been

54:51

like his first year, the next have

54:54

felt like he wasn't getting used properly.

54:56

But this year he's showing off the

54:58

dimensions of his game that he did

55:00

previously with the Clippers. But defensively though.

55:03

Like. The guys event he showed versatility.

55:05

I quit can strip and at the

55:07

ball, the rebounding. He does everything. Chris.

55:09

I saw him about at a good look at

55:12

the day that a week and a half ago

55:14

two weeks ago. I saw him

55:16

in Memphis. He played forty two minutes

55:18

in the game is the night they

55:20

played without Bronson in that game. A.

55:23

And I can tell you how many times. I.

55:26

To i turned the roser who said next to

55:28

me and I said. From. This guy

55:30

is good. It's

55:32

why does a good like he

55:34

was. Obviously Logan lived

55:37

as as small as all get out

55:39

What I mean. Just.

55:41

Yet the two guys that have like.

55:44

Come along like that. This year.

55:47

Where. I've watched them and been like

55:49

boy. That. Guy looks different than

55:51

I remember. Or him and zoo

55:53

boss. Just. New lease that

55:55

they both just. Perfect. Fit.

55:58

And. You. Got it? Hardstein a lot of

56:01

credit man because they really They

56:04

they went to hell in a handbasket with some

56:06

numbers last year when

56:08

Mitchell Robinson went out and this

56:12

year he's just filled

56:15

the void That should be

56:17

a massive loss for you to

56:19

have to play without Mitchell Robinson because

56:22

he's a bitch to deal with but

56:25

this guy is good Hardstein's good.

56:27

He's like legitimately good and And

56:30

I liked that Knicks team man. I like

56:33

talking about him. I Saw

56:35

I follow and he follows me some

56:37

reason from public enemy Chuck D Big

56:42

Knicks fan that he tweeted a couple weeks ago He

56:45

said and like it's like

56:47

he's comparing him to a Hall of Famer But

56:49

it's like Hartenstein reminds me of Dave

56:51

cowitz with with the hustle With

56:55

the hustle with the rebounding and

56:57

the heart and the grit and all that's

56:59

like yeah, I get it I get it

57:01

like, you know, obviously Dave countins was a

57:03

Hall of Famer and Isaiah Hartenstein

57:05

is not but from a team role

57:08

perspective and what he offers a team

57:10

I Get it,

57:12

you know, I think I think Hartenstein has

57:14

really just filled that void With

57:17

Mitchell Robinson going out and has shown Every

57:20

every area of his game in ways

57:22

that he's really never been able to

57:24

before At

57:26

this volume, it's just it's cool to see

57:29

it really is cool to see because it

57:31

works Perfect with all of those wing stoppers

57:33

that they have and with Randall size on

57:35

the front court next to him when Randall's

57:37

turned on And then with Brunson as the

57:40

primary creator it all seems to fit and

57:42

balance each other for the next day They've

57:44

landed on something right right now is

57:46

what they have Yeah Fun

57:49

team to watch too as well Man,

57:52

this was a it's a fun night in the NBA.

57:54

We got a lot of good games that are actually

57:56

scheduled for this week I hate that. We're not gonna

57:58

get to see full force clippers

58:01

versus full force Lakers, but

58:04

we got some other ones this week that are

58:06

going to tell us stuff and and and

58:08

these As

58:10

you mentioned earlier Kev always

58:12

carry More importance

58:14

over the course of this next three

58:16

weeks as we head into

58:18

the trade deadline Yeah, because this is like

58:21

final evaluation period there'll be we'll probably see

58:23

some trades over the course of the next

58:25

week and a half Two weeks, you

58:28

know much like the an anobi one

58:30

much like the siyaka one Like it's starting to

58:32

heat up and what we may we may

58:35

see some more before People

58:38

get to the trade deadline because there's

58:40

there's usually some that are setting themselves

58:42

up for the trade deadline right

58:46

so that they can they can

58:48

make multiple moves and And

58:50

like I said like all these results

58:52

end up carrying a greater importance

58:54

as these teams are evaluating themselves and deciding

58:56

Alright, are we trying to get better? We're

58:59

trying to get worse. We just stay in

59:01

the same What are we

59:03

doing here? Fun night though,

59:05

man, you'll see look years ago. I

59:07

remember we did a pod I think it was Blake

59:10

Griffin for the Pistons at 50 something and

59:12

I remember coming on I said we don't see

59:15

a lot of 50s and then we

59:17

had a barrage of 50-point games that everybody would

59:19

tweet me every time Can

59:23

I be confident say we don't see a lot of 70

59:30

14 in NBA history Somebody

59:33

has one again this week. I'm

59:35

gonna puke. Can you imagine? Yes,

59:38

who would it be this week? We almost had

59:40

to tonight I Well,

59:43

let's say we get another another one this week. Who's it

59:45

gonna be? Who's the player? We're

59:47

not getting another one. There's been if we

59:50

got another one if we got another one,

59:52

who's it gonna be? Yannas

59:56

no who this first place? Yeah,

1:00:04

who are the Pistons playing?

1:00:07

Who are the Wizards playing?

1:00:11

Oh, Oakes, I don't think anybody's

1:00:13

going over 70. I don't

1:00:15

think Portland, maybe cat on

1:00:17

Saturday, but

1:00:21

Minnesota, maybe cat

1:00:23

on Saturday. And

1:00:25

otherwise, yeah, those are like three games. They got the

1:00:27

right this week. Yeah, it's not, yeah, I don't think

1:00:29

he's going against the Cavs. Donovan

1:00:32

Mitchell though. Donovan Mitchell though. Hey,

1:00:34

I just told you to give it up 122 per 100

1:00:36

for that. Yeah,

1:00:39

sure. How about in beat again? He's got

1:00:41

the Pacers coming up on Thursday. Who

1:00:45

has got the highest points against in

1:00:48

the league? Indiana

1:00:50

and Detroit. Oh, Washington's actually

1:00:52

at 124 now.

1:00:54

We're just doing

1:00:56

straight points. So

1:00:59

the bottom five defensive ratings

1:01:02

are currently Hornets, Pistons, Wizards,

1:01:04

Pacers, Hawks. That's the bottom

1:01:06

five. I mean,

1:01:08

Indiana, you could have big numbers.

1:01:11

Yeah. And beat again and beat

1:01:13

again. Yeah, you're right. My

1:01:16

God, those poor guys, Indiana

1:01:19

is lost two in a row. They

1:01:21

lost at Portland to that Phoenix at

1:01:23

their next three games or

1:01:25

Denver. Oh my God. Look

1:01:28

at the end of Indiana's

1:01:30

month. Denver Philly, Phoenix, Memphis,

1:01:33

Boston. Huge

1:01:37

win for the grid tonight in Toronto. Hey,

1:01:42

how much of that game did you

1:01:44

watch? I know you're paying attention to

1:01:46

others tonight. I had it on. I

1:01:48

know, but in beat gets 70, Carle

1:01:50

town's going off. But like with Memphis,

1:01:52

Toronto, Toronto,

1:01:54

they've lost three in a row. Like

1:01:57

we had our argument with the draft pick. Oh,

1:02:00

they suck too. Yeah, right. I don't

1:02:02

think they're that good. They're, they're

1:02:04

a young team and there's a lot of talent

1:02:06

in the NBA right now. They might end up

1:02:09

top six odds. They really might. I'm

1:02:11

releasing my mock draft this week and I'm waiting

1:02:13

until, waiting until the standings update

1:02:15

after Tuesday night. My draft guide's going

1:02:18

up on Wednesday. I believe we're launching

1:02:20

it Wednesday or Thursday is the plan.

1:02:22

Um, but that'll be up by the time we do our

1:02:25

next podcast and there's going to be a mock draft in

1:02:27

there. We'll see where Toronto is. They might be six or

1:02:29

seven, but, um, you know, I was

1:02:31

in that pick. But the dude,

1:02:33

they started John T. Porter. I

1:02:36

was like, Hey, first time

1:02:38

I saw a Grady Dick

1:02:40

all year. I was

1:02:42

thinking, I didn't watch any of the

1:02:44

game. It, of course you didn't who

1:02:46

would that you got a, you could

1:02:48

have seen John Conchar's five blocks. Grady

1:02:51

Dick just got a bunch of cardio. He didn't. All

1:02:53

right. I see 15 minutes, zero of one

1:02:56

from the floor. He might've

1:02:58

taken a zoom, but class, I

1:03:00

hope he fixes his shot man.

1:03:02

Cause like he,

1:03:05

he has not shot well at all this year and changed

1:03:07

him as his mechanics. It looks bad. Would

1:03:09

you say limp Dick has

1:03:13

been incredibly limp. Need

1:03:16

some Cialis out there for his jumper. All

1:03:21

right. Good. Do it for today's show. Too

1:03:24

late for this. Too late for this.

1:03:27

All right. Big week ahead. We're

1:03:29

now a few weeks away from the trade deadline.

1:03:31

It's always a pleasure. Thank you to our executive

1:03:34

producer, Jesse Lopez, as always Kevin. I'll talk to

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you on Thursday. Must

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be 21 plus in president select States. Fandall

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is offering online sports wagering in Kansas under

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an agreement with the Kansas star casino, LLC

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gambling problem called one and visit

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fanduel.com/RG in Colorado, Iowa, Kentucky,

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Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania,

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Illinois, Tennessee, Vermont, and Virginia.

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In Arizona call 1-800-NEXT-STEP or

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text NEXTSTEP to 5-3-3-4-2. In Connecticut call

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1-888-789-7777 or

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visit ccpg.org/chat. In Indiana call

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1-800-9-WITH-IT. In Kansas call 1-800-5-2-2-4-7-0-0

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or visit kscamelinghelp.com. In

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Louisiana call 1-877-770-STOP. In Maryland visit mdgamblinghelp.org.

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In West Virginia visit 1800gambler.net

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in Wyoming call 1-800-5-2-2-4-7-0-0. Hope is here in

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Massachusetts visit gamblinghelplinema.org

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or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24-7 support in Massachusetts.

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In New York call 1-877-8-HOPE-NY or text HOPE-NY.