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there you go for the the boy today we have
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a special episode focusing on the in the a
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draft in the oklahoma city thunder cause
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we did a full and be a files for the on tuesday's
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episode of the mismatch so
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to talk about okay see in the draft i brought
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on my friend from the ringer tyler parker
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as well as a new friend andrew slacks
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from the athletic as ago and guys
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the money by for having us guessing mm
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this is i am very excited about that it wasn't part
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of the time was there is an honor
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to be her know the thank you had rented tyler
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appreciated i i wanna talk of casey
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today because of course
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okay is he has he has to pick in the draft i also
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have before picking the draft they have to
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other first i wanted a first round pick as
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was thirty fourth pic in
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the second round so for pigs in the top
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thirty four they have more draft capital then
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anybody else right now and they have
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done on one of the the most intriguing
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young teams in the league with sta
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josh kitty we see the importance right
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now in the and be a playoff that we've been watching
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about having really no weak
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links in your defense having size
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and versatility and with okay see grand to be
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a young granted their bad granted they have a top
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accurately some the in the wind call on this
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past season i'm so incredibly
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intrigued by their long term potential
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what big a deal with it with the four picks up a have
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an issue is rational and you just have no start
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off i guess let's let's talk about i were a okay
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see develop what what they
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develop into last year where they're going out
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of a sort of a singles alexander i'm
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here another good season twenty four point five points
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per game is efficiency was way down
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than what it was the season prior the twenty
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twenty one season with oklahoma city out
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what's your overall assessment of guilt is alexander's
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development ah with what we saw this past
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year the shooting definitely
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took a hit and the first part of the season
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and that was a little bit of concern
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but he was getting worse
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shots this year i mean he's getting more
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double teams mean the other teams are focusing
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on him totally because
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you throw just getting out there while he's a
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tremendous passer you don't have to worry
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about him on the perimeter at all then
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the second best score on the team is lou door it
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was great this your average seventy points per game
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literally nobody cared if he shot the basketball
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and go to have shea out there
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creating stuff it
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was tough for him but one
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thing that we learn about amazon the
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left hand is a little bit of a question like
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is he gonna be able to drive finish last it
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looks easy for him now that's
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one thing that he devil i developed and
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then you look at the thirteen games after
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the all star break earning
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thirty five and seven on
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thirty nine percent from three during
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that stretch it didn't matter most that stretches
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without just get a all but one of those games that
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are just getting and he
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could do whatever he wanted and so
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i think you'd blossoming into the player that
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they would have hoped he could be and
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if they can get so my real spacing
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which they could acquire that it to
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enter twelve in this next draft they
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get could unlock something and him because
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he led the league and drives once again
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these gonna be a tremendous
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up and supplier and the duties
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as one of the most vibrant personalities
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and the and be a i mean something people don't know
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i think people watch him play they seize on this
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crap okay see team that they are this guy
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is gotta be miserable right i
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mean he walks in the exit interviews to
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talk about this wretched season and
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he's just like good morning good morning everybody
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likes the fit under ,
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are like reagan don't us and behind me like
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an hour to say this is
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is just a delightful person and
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delightful ah you know if you're a thunder family
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gets to be really excited that is on the team it
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seems like somebody that gives you hope right tyler was
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the will a minute that's the thing that
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has made this rebuild
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far more palatable from
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day one was just like chaise
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exist and so on the roster right you
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don't feel like you're starting at zero
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you feel like you start with something you
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know substantial that can turn into something
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even more substantial yeah i mean
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talk and you're talking about those
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last thirteen games i mean he
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was getting downhill whenever he wanted to in that's
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been the case for the last two years really but
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just especially then whenever
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whenever his shots right that
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unlocks so much more
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for him go into the ram and he's already
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dangerous they're like andrew same with the
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left is better but he says david so much
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crap just in general like in
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the line with movement you
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know multiple euros in the floaters
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with the off hand and things like that
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that you know look weirdly
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repeatable you know i mean they don't know a
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the look like luck right and
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he's , a little bit of
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kyrie and him in these
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like kind of acrobatic offhand
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finishes and things like that double clutches
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stuff you
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know not your traditionally
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like huge dude but you
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can take such a big strides
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and and he's always on balance
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the so yeah these
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shots right it just makes him all
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that much more they're
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saying to deal with like like andrew
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saying i mean it's york times last year
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you're looking at a for the
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sky you know dairies paisley
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owner who especially earlier in the year
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can't hit the ocean you've got
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derrick favors who's never been a shooter you
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got lou door to like last
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year and the year before that weirdly
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he's like just smoke and from
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the corners is like forty four percent from course as
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your forty six i think the of for that's what
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anywhere else on the perimeter and it's
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griggs i'm guessing game right and then
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you got getty there's there you
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know the time he spent his stretches
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shea is seeing every
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eye on the defense carrying so we
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about him you know often
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times you know he's like the his see
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in two bodies on the ball right but he's also
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got guys cheap map at the nail on
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the title she's she's dealing with a lot
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and i think it'll help him going forward
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i think as he gets more space
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it's gonna be that thing where he's just
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sort of realizing like oh i didn't i
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didn't know how bad i had it you know that
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way into like the left hand improving
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you know because both you guys mention how that got better
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for him he is driving at top top for the league
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last year in l and and the twenty one
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twenty two season top league again and drives for
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game by like what do you guys are both
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ascribing with a lack of spacing it seems like
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andrew kind of forced him like a or in
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i can be even better more efficient are
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these drives run by expanding what i'm doing that
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it out a use a guy that doesn't make excuses about
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i can't do this as number it's a ah he's
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just like i'm gonna get better give the as supreme
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belief that he's gonna be one of the best players in the mbs
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and , continues to prove like through
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off season the work that he puts in and
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just the way the organization feels about him
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in i think some people questioned whether he would be
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a guy that could be on the trading block because
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he is entering his second time rack and
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the thunder wanna stay young they want to rebuild
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slowly but i
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would the be very very
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surprised if sorry than having discussions about
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him right now i think they think
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of him as one of the pieces
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moving forward and what he was able
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to do this year really solidified that
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there were those rumors during the
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twenty one draft about potentially
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building hand the gate gate coming here who
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have force went to detroit this point
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you know you get as yea only twenty three
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years old i turned twenty
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four before next season in july still
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super young just starting out of contract
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you mention that close to the seasons
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the last thirteen games and he averaged thirty point
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four point seven point three assists five
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point eight rebounds nearly forty percent from
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three i mean the dude was absolutely
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crazy but i remember i'm
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i'm i'm more dagnall said around
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the time the deadline a good he's gonna be the guy
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can a run of the so the rest the way but then he got
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hurt as big as side of at any
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for my last fifteen twenty games over the
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nightly triple double but as
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okay wasn't playing at that time and
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eighty was really starting to figure out the
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way he can get to the bathroom trade his spots
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from mid range and free for others so we
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didn't see those guys dominate
11:15
the gather our dude
11:17
you see those guys like oh that is
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is sort of disappointing when i see that at all
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or or as a like how do you feel about
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the thought but like the give us the eighth it was
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never a plus at
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the same time i think
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it is disappointing that we didn't get to see
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them together more you know
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late in the year whenever
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you know she was really right
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and you know before getting god the
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shut down you know i think the
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real his last four games he had had triple
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doubles tsunami like he was really really
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i mean either the the you
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know the way of bad right
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was the him as she game where you know
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him and courageous go
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bonkers the a toy it's twelve
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assists eleven rebounds it's a super
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super fine like crazy are making
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from try and just like getting a doing all
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of his whatever like if
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if somebody was like what can he do you
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would need to show them anything other than that get
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iraqi gave you all of the the
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all the juice right arm
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i i i that the spirit
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changes in you know not
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entirely on shays
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shot by you
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know how
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you feel about it depends on how real use
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thinks is shooting was early
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in the year last season i think
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that like this based
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off of looking at past performance
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you know that the
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last year's the exception not the rule right
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like that was i think it was as special
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scenario with the like what we talked about where
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he's just dealing with a lot more attention
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with a lot less ah
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you know offensive firepower
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around him particularly that can shoot
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and the i think there was just when
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you know sort of an extended adjustment period
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for america if it's me
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personally i think it
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will work because i i think
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i'm a person who thinks shagging issue the
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end them i
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think it as long as that the happen
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that's equally because of giddis size
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i think it can war it's
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i'm still worried about getting shot the
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okay so you're in the town in the twenty two calendar
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year before he got shut down he
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was not shooting the ball
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well but he was making
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there is a person was free throws and
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so if you're like a person is trying to feel good
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about his shot that's what you hang
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your hat on right like that's what you go to
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and it wasn't on some crazy number of attempts
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right like a nice the able to get more pressure other
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emmys be able to use as strengthen his size
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to be able to get downhill little bit more
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below more effective there that can
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you know the gate some of the
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shooting issues that he as if he can you know finish
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down there but
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that he was shooting it
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decently for a decent chunk
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of time that's the set like
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that the of the okay see homer and me
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who wants getting to be there for fifteen
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years and you know be an all star like
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that's what i'm that's what i'm hoping
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for but he's also changing his shot supposedly
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this off season and that's always like hoping
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that is scary to here so i am
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optimistic but certainly understand
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someone being like i don't know no sure
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yeah i think it's all about the pieces around those
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to honestly like they both have tremendous
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salad the had one
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of the were supporting cast around them like
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a mystery box of players i mean this
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hundred am in no they had in these guys honestly like they're
14:55
just thrown guys out there just try and stuff and
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you have to facilitators you have two guys
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that operate well on ball the
15:03
zero guys have gravity of
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answer and the
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me it's why i was so important for them to get
15:10
the to pick and even the salt there
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can be really important to like there's
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going to happen with the slender team because the
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me it's all about what kind of weapons can you put
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around those two because they're gonna
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lock a lot of stuff for
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whoever they get whether that that
15:26
war jabbar your follower whoever
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else they're able to get that swell like that's
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gonna that's gonna make that process
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a little bit easier them
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and i to me the giddy stuff i think
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will work itself out that dude is insanely
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competitive he wants to win
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so badly and wants to
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improve his game whatever way he can
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any that afraid no
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the island a huge him to yeah but he's not
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afraid yeah he's not he's the he didn't seem
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like the type of guy that was going to
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to back down which was very encouraging
15:58
to see i'm with i'm i'm with for
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sure they have of players you
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know we are acting as to a personality
16:04
wise giddy as well those guys
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are competitors it's it's just
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like when you're when you're building a roster together
16:11
as together weaknesses for them and
16:13
respectively in their own ways of giddy as giddy as
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as easy to what level as he really like
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we've seen as to a what a years when he's shooting
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forty four percent from three we've we've
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seen stretches and moments i'm giddy
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and time or as i only had a mid range of fallen
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he said nursery like that knicks game you mentioned
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were was like oh this is what it could be like
16:31
in five years when he was more
16:33
consistent suitor and these nights happen more regularly
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even if you've never have a forty plus
16:38
percent guy over full season if
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he's thirty six thirty seven percent at six
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foot eight with his in our magical
16:45
playmaking ability and his versatility
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and the fact you can plug him in a different positions
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and different types of said dribble hand off
16:51
stop the key can use him as a screener have
16:53
a role like there's so much you can do with giddis
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the matter with a k c roster you're
17:11
right it's so exciting would there be
17:13
number two because what is your bari
17:15
smith at auburn the guy that current reports
17:18
say is the primary target for lana with
17:20
number one or whether it's at home run
17:22
the big center organs i got shot blocker
17:25
led led the college basketball and sun block
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for game last year last year freshman our
17:29
weather's follow ben kara who's been a more
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of a score or do it's
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pretty easy to see all three
17:36
of those guys sitting in okay see because
17:39
of the playmaking and the types of
17:41
style of play that a giddy and
17:43
as to a bring would that good though
17:45
we all have our favorites so
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after number to pick let let's just
17:50
keep all free on the table and forget
17:53
about orlando at number one cause being totally
17:55
honest with you when it comes to draft
17:57
stuff it's hard to know what
17:59
to believe because i've heard a lot
18:01
of the same avoid everybody said the jabari
18:03
smith is the guy for a lambda how
18:06
much of that this is this the not
18:08
speaking hypothetically how much of that is is
18:10
orlando trying to create leverage because
18:12
they know okay see or houston
18:15
or some other team wants ham and so
18:17
they're making it seem like they want him at number one
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even though they actually want sad or paolo ever
18:21
else so i don't wanna really put too much
18:23
into anything that i hear about what can be
18:25
happening at number one with a month ago so
18:28
let us is assumed bari said
18:31
empower all often for okay see
18:33
what are the to do or whatever the train
18:35
up to one what's your major choose
18:37
who they want sheriff of andrew who's
18:39
your preference for oklahoma city image
18:43
at home grandbaby i think you've
18:46
gotta keep a weird number one
18:48
the same as already weird and the weirdest
18:50
direction ago is obviously general defensively
18:54
that it's and so perfectly
18:56
i mean they need a rim protector they
18:58
need a guy that can provide
19:00
defense in the middle i'm in a
19:02
they did well last year surprisingly
19:05
defending guys like yogurt is because their team
19:07
defense was on a string
19:09
and that's a credit to mark and his team
19:11
because
19:13
the defensive talent there was like
19:15
two guys he felt pretty good about in the restroom
19:17
like our know how they're going to make this work and
19:19
they did at during stretches they were like a
19:22
top affably defense you know at points
19:24
in the season last year and as just like thats mark
19:29
the
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the stuff that checked and do offensively to
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are talking about it is within five years
19:34
the basket and catch the ball is gonna finish
19:37
he was a dunk the ball i think you will shoot
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it from three
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i think he will demand gravity on the perimeter
19:43
and in the paint which is what the thunder they
19:45
need somebody at the defense cares
19:48
about and to me is gonna
19:50
like this ultimate upside place
19:52
finisher defender weirdo
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that that underneath
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you agree with that our all my belongings
19:58
on the table yeah i think
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idea i did he change his
20:02
our really honestly and their i still
20:04
have a big time sauce plots for
20:06
follow the i'm just
20:09
because i think
20:12
that you know off
20:14
the dribble shot creation is
20:16
just about the most important the
20:19
offensive skill you can have in the playoffs
20:21
at this point and somebody
20:24
can do that at that size you
20:27
know there are you can really area
20:31
and i think that paolo
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just with in
20:37
in in be a off and switch you know the
20:39
spacing that that the in automatically
20:41
can provide somebody ah
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the i just i it's
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it's it's hard to the
20:51
not like my
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bad take over my why do i really
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want that yeah i mean i just i
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do get worried about the difference it's
21:04
the river would win ben simmons was at ellis
21:06
you and everybody was sort of like
21:08
some have to suspect gonna try him and
21:10
he got to the league is like one of the best friends and leah is
21:13
there any say i know he doesn't have
21:15
an adult palo isn't like like
21:17
laterally side to side right like he's now
21:19
what simmons is and he's not as
21:21
making you know maybe like i'm ah
21:24
you know explosive and a leap
21:26
are some i bet rights but it
21:29
is there anything to do is there anything to just
21:31
like she was in college and he wasn't trying
21:34
it , or anything that just and then he will one is
21:36
in league as if i think is earl an
21:38
element of that i mean
21:40
like you said he's not necessarily like the necessarily
21:42
like athlete you know the ben simmons
21:44
was of l a c which is why a man for disappointing
21:47
life simmons wasn't trying it's like or
21:49
i gave up on the scene within carol
21:51
i think we saw a girl glimmers of
21:53
what his potential defensive versatility
21:56
and i think with am i mean it's interesting
21:58
like after his era do that the
22:00
back is or how much does he care blah blah
22:02
the format by the guy who
22:04
you know what you them high school isn't making an
22:06
investment for years working
22:08
with trainers to improve athletically like
22:10
everything i've heard is that he is someone who busted
22:12
his ass a he works in the sky michael make
22:15
up there in washington where he's from and like
22:17
that's all aren't light of kind of like not just
22:19
you know dribble dribble you know your trains rebounding
22:21
for you but like working on your body and your hip flexibility
22:24
and your movement is made an investment
22:26
over the years when a high schooler it's not all
22:28
high schoolers are doing that you know you
22:30
don't develop that like off the bounce kind
22:33
of back as he's got without being like i'm
22:35
serious only a limited
22:37
amount of time for to get some new just that
22:39
it's daniel one hundred percent i mean i
22:41
think with banker i mean i have a ranked first
22:44
or my big board at the current moment i'm
22:46
in a store collecting
22:48
you know in tongue and all that over the next month we'll see if
22:50
that changes it's close between them which is
22:53
what makes the top this draft so fascinating
22:55
but by andrea right would set
22:57
the defensive fit in our what he provides
23:00
sound of my god someone someone
23:02
compared him to a weird body
23:05
al horford recently to me turn
23:07
, somebody to like he brings that defense
23:09
rice but he also he's not a starter
23:12
for your offense but he's a center for he can catch
23:15
catch and shoot threes he got shot up about
23:17
make the right path and and that the area
23:19
right thing home run a he is game
23:21
against is guess they are simple the
23:24
entry draft to do timmy over and over
23:26
and over again he had no opportunities to create
23:28
in generate off as bringing the ball of the floor
23:31
initiating dribble hand off action sore
23:33
or playmaking just like he did in high school we
23:35
saw and so so so much
23:37
more as a passer in high school so like
23:39
the it worse with him there was pretty
23:41
much gone back and looking it sheds
23:44
light his
23:47
box scores in i was even later
23:49
in the year just not
23:51
getting a ton of shrouds and aren't
23:54
you know definitely differing said jimmy
23:56
in memoriam stress enough for
24:00
jimmy's a great college where on know what to be like in
24:02
the league you know but bizarre
24:05
i get i get a freshman kind of needed
24:08
especially with do has been so successful in
24:10
college as as timberlake i i i i
24:12
get him not i get shit not be
24:14
like hey get out of the was you know
24:16
means but you know when it's like against
24:18
memphis against with about trouble like you
24:21
know where it was seven shots
24:23
like then i keep thinking about
24:25
and mobley stuff right or is like how overplayed
24:27
did that wind up being the of you know of
24:29
us are stuff and i'm
24:32
and if he is just the loan big on the floor
24:35
with a lot more space you know
24:37
the so he couldn't
24:39
you know they stop and
24:41
and you know either way to me could in
24:44
the process it's the
24:46
the thing that i keep going back to do
24:48
with that i think it was given a i
24:50
saw like it was like a the
24:53
only player in and suitably history to average
24:55
fourteen nine boards and
24:58
three blocks while shooting
25:00
over seventy percent since two
25:02
hundred forty percent from three and
25:04
he like well that was like but that was like going into the tournament
25:07
i think those stats and he wound up a little below
25:09
forty but like no
25:13
forty eight bits it's it especially
25:15
with the way the league is now right like what what
25:17
do you mean you , you are
25:20
saying earlier about those dues the gym
25:22
you know create off the bounce and stuff like that
25:24
on board that is like the other type of
25:26
dude is like that is big
25:28
that can do that lot of stuff on both ends
25:31
right like this right super versatile
25:33
guy that can you know that the
25:35
european we are bans of
25:37
the world right and the
25:40
idea that he could be you know of a
25:42
supercharged version of that is very
25:44
very exciting i'm just trying to trying to get beyond
25:47
like the
25:50
worried about him being skinny the
25:52
i know that just i know that just sounds like
25:54
barry like just sort of you know
25:56
basic him you know laugh
25:58
lacking a new but
26:01
it does just slides it's
26:03
hard to not worry about that if
26:05
he does the best
26:08
offensive version of himself
26:10
is as five
26:13
like harden i worry
26:15
about that is it like it like he was an arranger
26:18
i mean maybe it doesn't old maybe it doesn't matter
26:20
until you get to the beaches nimbys
26:22
of the world like maybe you just you know the
26:26
admit but yeah
26:28
i guess i'm not saying anything but yeah
26:33
the competitive fire stuff to is real
26:35
yeah yeah yeah yeah he's he's like
26:37
that scrapping yeah i liked that about
26:40
him and also the the josh
26:42
giddy instagram stuff with chat
26:44
to how we are flirting aren't there were
26:47
, it to
26:53
odds i be it on had
26:56
here up to that
26:58
i i i
27:03
to josh you
27:05
could do a for me
27:08
be i the the draft
27:11
up of
27:14
he we or and
27:19
not have to for a i
27:23
something they know
27:25
the gonna have a berth
27:29
or a good boy with the one guy we and intellectual
27:31
here ribery smith's
27:34
i do i fit andrew tell
27:36
me why are you barry switzer be the pic
27:38
the easiest
27:41
one to imagine he
27:44
is a floor spacer it's
27:46
just gonna take and make a craft
27:49
on a three that the and below and
27:51
with the creators of thunder have is just almost
27:54
it's it's too easy to picture because we had my
27:56
scala doing what he
27:58
will do with the m b a level the last year
28:00
for the thunder any came in and he was
28:03
the family productive tubular just
28:05
because he could shoot it sucks now was it a
28:07
specific and it out every single
28:09
line up and with
28:11
a guy that can absolutely thirty five
28:14
minutes and defend multiple positions
28:16
and the
28:18
it's really easy to picture to
28:20
bari and us hundred years and what it would look like
28:22
that's i think been or fans have a hard to american
28:24
their mind around what shut will look like
28:27
and maybe they don't even want to know what shut
28:29
will look like because you see images
28:31
like made so skinny i just don't know
28:34
follow the weirder fit still i
28:36
think you would be great those
28:39
other two and but jabbar just like he's
28:41
just so easy oh yeah he shoots and people to
28:43
garden great like commit felt like
28:45
one of the things like
28:46
you mention the appeal earlier tyler
28:48
have been careful because of the shot creation and
28:51
how that's the hardest thing the find that when you're
28:53
holding a playoff team have and guys you can generate
28:55
shots and we saw him do that in
28:57
big games for duke with jabari smith
28:59
the criticism of him is is the opposite
29:02
right like it's it's the fact that always
29:04
a knockdown shooter he's a great defender
29:07
he can attack they can a straight line off the dribble
29:10
but he's not somebody who is finishing at
29:12
a high rate the wasn't going to the basket necessarily
29:14
is torn up settling for a lot of jumpers
29:17
and incomes the self reason he's
29:19
not much of a playmaker however
29:21
one of a thoughts on my mind with that as well have
29:23
your bearings bari smith with the
29:26
royal handlers like giddy and as
29:28
to yea the level that he needs
29:30
the reach of a ball handler like he doesn't need
29:32
to become a a plus or even
29:35
an a minus ball handler he if he gets
29:37
oh i see plus be minus a
29:39
be that guy who's potentially being
29:41
defended by some weaker hi i'm barbara
29:43
amateur guys were going to have to take the primary
29:45
match up against the oldest alexander giddy that's
29:48
why i'm like maybe if he's
29:50
going to give those dudes he's just
29:52
gonna be wreaking havoc plan off of bothers
29:54
me the secondary trader so knowing
29:57
what are your thoughts on the jabari suspect like given
30:00
given what you said about the importance
30:02
of being carols creation what he
30:04
could do for okay say i'm with a injury
30:06
that it would be a pretty seamless
30:09
sphere matt
30:12
the green go back and look at the
30:14
just play like quality of shots show
30:16
would get when the scala was on the floor
30:18
and like moscow was the screener in
30:21
the garage and stuff like that when you go look at the quality
30:23
the quality she was getting just
30:26
offer that how much better they were it's
30:28
hard to not think about
30:31
ah how
30:33
much harder he'll be for a difference deal
30:35
with whenever there's somebody pop and back that people
30:37
have to worry about you
30:40
know especially when that guy can
30:42
get clean off the floor
30:45
and what you're saying can guard across
30:48
potentially across potentially positions
30:52
i keep i could go back
30:54
and forth on how much it matters
30:56
that he the you know struggles
30:58
off the bounce right now i
31:02
i i'm with you that
31:05
you know you eat you don't wanna take the ball out of
31:07
as you get his hands that much
31:13
my concern is is are are
31:15
or is she a good it you know if you're projecting
31:18
the team out and if the goal is to be able
31:20
to be a team that can get to the finals and maybe
31:22
when it you know is
31:25
is as she a the a number
31:28
one scoring do and
31:30
if he is the great and if he's not
31:32
then the your bari be
31:35
that it feels like the only way he could
31:37
be that level of score if
31:40
he does add the
31:42
handle the the
31:45
don't i also don't know how much time it
31:47
might like the my discounting his saw him
31:49
i am i not taking the size and to italian of
31:51
like how easy he can get his shot
31:53
off against anybody i
31:56
don't i waffles are muslim him because then
31:58
it's like is he has he gotten
32:00
a little bit to rely on his size has
32:03
he not felt like he has to develop
32:05
these other aspects of his game because
32:07
he's so tall and he changes his shot
32:09
off his he just always gonna
32:11
be happy the you know firing
32:15
what you put feta ways with hands in
32:17
his face whenever he's got driving
32:19
lanes and stuff like that i don't i don't
32:22
i don't know i the i would be happy
32:24
with any of these days are be
32:26
stuck with any i'll be happy
32:28
with any of them following real be it would you be
32:30
if it was a surprise somebody else
32:32
to say i'm sorry treat and i don't
32:35
, love or art or three down
32:37
you're you're you're very angry or you roll your
32:40
eyes over there andrew what others say
32:42
down they want more pics on
32:45
ios our belong to press the goodness
32:48
yeah that would be a little frustrating
32:50
because little the word is like it's all
32:52
about top three guys
32:54
and is all about
32:55
getting the guys at the top of the draft and how much they matter
32:58
look at india history and then
33:00
it's
33:01
our guard trade dancers sectors got
33:03
example let's say that like oh
33:05
come on man it
33:08
in the thing is that it
33:10
feels like they've set up this roster to take
33:12
on i gay a shotmaking
33:15
the impact big right right
33:18
they don't have anybody like that like they drafted
33:20
your my robinson earl last year and worm
33:23
very intentional about playing him at
33:25
the for in the five all year and switching out
33:28
though that he could be as versatile as possible
33:30
they're setting this team up for a guy like
33:33
this then you
33:36
just before they took jay navy just
33:38
it it complicates things in
33:40
the me in the immediate for them to then it's like okay
33:42
will begin to pay lou doors
33:44
and bring nj ninety like you're really
33:46
gonna do that i don't know that they
33:49
should cf to make to make a little bit faster
33:51
on on blue and how you're going to deal him
33:53
or whatever gonna do the
33:55
me but the talent at the top as
33:57
in these big guys and
34:01
whatever it is that he gets a he's ever get
34:03
like
34:04
it's to unprotected picks from the king's it's like
34:06
okay well that's the that stupid
34:08
like you probably have to do that but
34:11
people have been suggesting like sacramento
34:13
fans like wow he trade for and of
34:15
south side protected take next year they get
34:18
outta here is shit outta here with that like
34:20
that that's not it ah
34:22
i i would be happy with
34:24
any of the bags the me
34:26
i especially cool shade sharp i just be like you
34:30
you gotta really know something and
34:32
i don't know how you know it
34:34
i don't know how you're getting your information that can a
34:36
canadian connection as to get
34:40
, intel that's doubly the only logical
34:42
thing is like listen sam is does not
34:44
want american players like is just one litter
34:47
nasa is very bad as that that's
34:49
him he would be like are i'd okay yeah
34:52
i would be i don't know what
34:54
do you think of sharp i don't know i don't know what to think
34:56
about i'm i watched the
34:58
i got going a propaganda that's being put
35:01
out on twitter where he so i'm like half speed
35:03
and like doing dunks is a slight this is nothing
35:06
yeah don't do this to me like i thought gerald
35:08
green do this kind of stuff and if
35:10
you compare the two bedroom green
35:13
and be best player in the whole and be a girl
35:15
know i was blown i can
35:17
while it , a
35:19
great player from if i
35:21
murmur so i went for jumped the southern strategy
35:23
ordering years ago i was like this
35:26
is the guy we get a special interests
35:30
how that obama state when obama state supposed to be coming
35:32
out my freshman year and joe greene was supposed
35:34
to be like the chosen was a big deal
35:36
when he committed diverse used in obama
35:39
in oklahoma bad missouri's was your agree communal
35:41
jose of widely low or we
35:43
drive the salon or when we go on like exactly
35:45
like mario bug and buyer and he's been on
35:48
and in our job grandmother this is
35:50
my of this is my new life this is a me what
35:52
he did well to cable he he he
35:55
, toronto the moment he had a great career
35:57
either either gesture be
35:59
either name of the pod but he did well i can't
36:04
do , yeah i will
36:06
i'm glad you're a dream at least see a long
36:09
career he played twelve you tell me and be
36:11
a how crazy is that right like
36:13
and his wife a kind of a bus in terms of
36:15
my expectations are high school but for
36:17
eighteenth take a phobia
36:20
of the n b a made tens of millions of dollars
36:22
good good for them once you have
36:24
watch him some clips have that of kindle
36:26
brown from baylor there
36:29
are like in the way that he jumps
36:31
like there's a little bit of that their
36:34
they have these they like float similarly
36:36
nine it's like of there's
36:38
there's nothing either so effortless
36:41
and interests like the
36:44
how high they can get and dunk with two hands
36:46
i mean the like yeah
36:49
how about so are you have mercy on
36:51
some our keep nonsense or will it sort of a tree
36:53
down what's left notes instead of viewing
36:56
of through the lens of but trade down or surprise
36:58
of to let's view him through the lens
37:00
of a trade off the bank
37:02
and okay see has twelve thirty
37:05
and thirty four and five hundred
37:07
first round draft picks and second rounders in the coming
37:09
years and they have some appealing and guys
37:11
they could potentially flip if they really wanted to like if they
37:13
wanted us take our blue doors option
37:16
and throw him into a deal to team
37:18
by you can do that i they have got
37:20
appealing guys in their roster kenneth williams
37:23
by jeremiah robinson url it is
37:25
a number of appealing guys and okay see tree man
37:27
to for that matter so maybe they were a trade
37:30
off twelve i
37:32
bring would suit i'm sorry by everything you guys describe
37:34
him up a need for creation the need
37:36
for and the clock scoring the
37:38
need for you know more good sturdy
37:41
defensive players sharp isn't their
37:43
defense or yeah but i think the
37:45
average bear the will the will to get better
37:47
as their from what i hear about him in terms of his work
37:49
ethic an offensively you're
37:52
right into the empty gym stuff it doesn't
37:54
it doesn't mean anything i type it doesn't it
37:56
doesn't mean anything by the y de l production
37:59
has high school production got a bug
38:01
getter the and create his own
38:03
space on the perimeter again in two or three point
38:05
jumper i think there's been some talk about
38:07
how much is he willing as a passer you
38:10
know there's been so many clubs have seen of him where
38:12
the had opportunities to score
38:15
but he's making the extra pass and
38:17
his responsibility and his role was the
38:19
scores lot of i don't mind as much
38:22
sometimes when is doing that but i've seen enough for
38:24
it's like okay i think he has a desire to pass
38:26
he has some vision is just about being
38:28
empowered in a wall in a situation i
38:30
imagine i get excited about
38:33
his potential fate on a team like
38:35
okay see your another team that values
38:37
moving the ball sharing the ball
38:39
having different guys get touches and i
38:42
think if you have a choice but
38:44
to conform if you're playing next to
38:46
really the way he moved the ball and sta
38:49
i think of your drafted into a situation
38:51
like that you can't be a ball stopper
38:54
i think you have to keep it moving so i
38:56
mean i guess what that mine for him it
38:59
is is he canada preferred
39:01
like in the event of a trade up
39:03
in the middle of the lottery from twelve
39:06
it is he gonna want to be guys you guys like most
39:08
or other other have any other names in the water we
39:10
i'd i'd love to see him on oklahoma city sharp
39:14
would be super interesting in the ceiling
39:16
in off and suddenly is super high
39:18
like you know the let them the
39:20
result of bowels with range
39:23
you know like been able to do that from
39:26
the from distance is
39:29
is
39:31
special am i i
39:33
get the them being
39:36
pumped up about the athleticism somebody like wiggins
39:38
comp scare me like an hour wiggins like finally
39:40
got there you know but the an island off
39:42
the thunder trying to way seven years some
39:45
for for sharp
39:47
to hit a home hit let dyson
39:49
daniels like a
39:51
guy who the in a lot of a a
39:53
it seems like he just he's gonna shoot now
39:56
boards and dry out or even touch if
39:59
he's the type of guy the some the
40:01
the the team would be
40:03
willing to listen to an offer for you not
40:05
i mean bizarre his they're
40:10
sighs the
40:12
defensively he could just be so
40:15
good ah
40:18
biden through screens it just seems like
40:21
when you see him it could be
40:23
really special on on that in in the end
40:25
the type of defender that everybody's looking for
40:28
a guy that same guard these unbelievable
40:30
wings scores right and
40:34
it just it seems like that people underestimated
40:37
you know his potential ceiling
40:40
offensively like it seems like he might the
40:43
able to do little bit bear and have
40:45
been especially in a situation where you
40:48
can be wanna see a and getting and he can you
40:50
know attack some clothes and things like back
40:53
at sit some differences and rotations
40:55
may be not not
40:57
not to deal with such complicated reads
40:59
and and everything just gonna make the game simple
41:02
form early on was young he didn't see
41:04
legs i think it could be a
41:06
really good situation
41:08
for a dude like that
41:10
that that would be a that was the get that
41:12
slide daniels yeah i would be super
41:15
duper bumped up about but i know events the
41:17
answer is not they are the
41:20
yeah i'm i'm big on the matter and yeah
41:22
i just think i'd be off our movements stuff that
41:24
he can do or that he showed her arizona
41:28
it's perfect with just getting
41:30
like we suck innards williams who had just
41:32
like make really simple cuts and
41:35
he would justify them or
41:38
white how did he do that like imagine
41:40
a guy's six six i crazy athletics
41:42
you know
41:44
i think that there's a match there were
41:46
like the the blind to like
41:48
his like nice added to light on me i'm worried
41:50
like he's like there's he's got he's
41:53
he's
41:55
he did not afraid yeah
41:58
yeah you use them there is
42:00
definitely not afraid of he said it fit right
42:02
in with gideon those guys for sure
42:05
and you know what like someone canadian is it
42:07
can a while
42:19
the names were talking about here in our i
42:21
posed the question is trade up and i say that
42:24
only because okay see a so much ammo like
42:26
that they can i can they can really move where
42:28
they want to within the draft so but you
42:30
know whether it's like it's moving up to seven
42:33
what are staying at twelve what
42:35
what are the types of players are there any person
42:37
to civic prospects andrew that you think okay
42:39
as he should be targeting about range
42:41
the i really think shooting has to be
42:43
one of the aspects that they target here
42:46
whether that i matter and doesn't seem like
42:48
he'll be there are twelve or maybe name is
42:51
i think that the
42:54
guy like ager griffin is pretty interesting
42:56
there if you're in asia griffin
42:59
truth or like it's a real easy
43:01
spot to put him because the thunder
43:03
need shooting you as a lights out shooter
43:05
is crazy young you know only
43:08
eighteen years old still i
43:10
worry about the injury stuff and
43:13
about just how heavy he looks
43:16
as his run up and down the court those
43:19
are the things are concerned me the most but you
43:21
know if if maybe duke was hiding
43:24
some of his creation skills within
43:26
their offense and he can send
43:28
a blossom somewhere to me he's a guy
43:30
that
43:31
it's very possible that he's there at twelve
43:34
and it's just it's another swing
43:36
and if you're swinging on a guy who's six six
43:38
and the like a brick house and
43:40
could shoot the ball or like
43:43
i'm i'm in on that kind of prospects
43:45
i think that some people are
43:48
some thunder fans are terrified that underworld
43:50
interview jeremy so hands you like yeah that's
43:52
our guy who's and just have like
43:55
andre roberson ptsd he wears
43:57
like not shooting the ball from the parameter i
44:00
love him and i love his story than
44:03
i would actually be super pumped if they drafted
44:06
if they drafted you bari or chair and
44:09
haired so and with one of those guys have in
44:13
because like it's crazy switch
44:15
he the competitive fire that you
44:17
get from those two and gideon door
44:20
i know they're going to struggle to score the basketball at times
44:23
but holy smokes man like that defenses
44:25
design the celtics
44:27
type of defense from those kind of guys
44:30
when you envision what they could be ah
44:32
anna i dyed his hair different colors like it's just
44:34
not a lot of cool things about any other
44:36
british accent but he's polish
44:39
and was born in time in oklahoma of
44:41
those story as it is so funky known
44:43
i born in game and yeah
44:46
bro linus handler
44:49
that's crazy yeah
44:52
i didn't know that in
44:54
our area or to sort that about born in oklahoma
44:58
his mom's those mom was a professional basketball
45:00
player played for this tiny team and diamond
45:02
oklahoma he was born there
45:05
and the was polish
45:08
i believe and then he he actually plays
45:10
on like the the national team there
45:12
and then he play was play navy
45:14
for like a minute in high school when he came over
45:16
to united states for think us and back and played
45:18
for germ i know historically been historically knew
45:21
like bots around the around the the the other
45:23
the
45:24
that game and had a professional
45:27
women's basketball team at that point
45:29
is blowing my mind
45:31
i'm just saying tell you need to reexamined
45:33
the the game and aspects and the hair
45:35
asked i mean arms and what about him and don't dismiss
45:37
him so for i watched the carolina game
45:39
hours logged on the moon a little
45:42
dirty like are you are
45:45
, have to like defense you feel
45:47
bad about it like i'm going to hell with visual and
45:49
i would rather let no one has long been
45:52
a third of us and but
45:54
that's okay you need those guys want
45:56
to be just as of only the guys who
45:58
nobody will lie but would
46:00
love if he was on your team you do
46:02
need you do need it i just
46:06
i don't know the man a use
46:08
for it but denise from guymon what do you do
46:10
any sort of his from diamond with a british
46:12
accent i know i mean come on and
46:15
the died here the diner
46:17
there's just there's too many things that alone i'll
46:19
do anything about him is like this
46:22
is just went from of entertainment perspective
46:25
but i would love for them to leave
46:27
the giraffe with somebody who can
46:29
job who can catch some lobs
46:31
from giddy as yeah i would
46:33
love to have somebody who who
46:36
can can you know
46:38
get on the brake and fly a little bit that
46:40
would be that just from of you
46:42
know
46:43
showtime
46:46
percent they are you wanna have fun watching
46:48
the t abuse and if you mentioned are
46:50
they gonna be celtics ask in
46:52
terms of like how they be building out their potential
46:54
besides i mean that's the thing itself
46:57
piano fighting
46:59
for me with this of the homer city roster when
47:01
you think about there's a possibility yea
47:04
could be the smallest latest player
47:07
in some of their lineups like of the is a build
47:09
this thing out you know you look at airdrops history
47:11
whether some of these guys work out or not
47:13
alexi poke who says key with his size
47:15
of his playmaking oh there is basically
47:18
even for a man has some site to a me
47:20
granted is lena right now but you
47:22
know williams robinson urls the
47:25
door they have my door it is not a
47:27
big guy in terms of his measurements but he plays
47:29
bag with is the fact that he's not a liability
47:31
so at oklahoma city they're building
47:33
out this team that has you know switch
47:36
ability potentially across musicians
47:38
were like we see boston with what they've done as
47:40
miami where they're playing with elements
47:42
of zone off ball whether just
47:44
like easily swapping match up so it's
47:46
like so seamlessly don't worry about
47:48
his wife whose defending a certain players
47:50
because they can all the fans in our players
47:53
one through five in oklahoma
47:55
city can build something like that dag all
47:57
is already proven to be a pretty good goats really
47:59
good well the two coats ah i'd
48:01
be excited when at them following
48:04
this vision and my other know i i'd be surprised
48:06
if it isn't the game plan like don't pass
48:09
decisions kind of indicate android this is
48:11
what prestige and tending to do like that's their
48:13
actions speak really loudly to me without
48:16
a doubt they want versatility i
48:19
mean
48:20
the telegraph that with the poco pig like
48:22
right out the gate is i we just one
48:24
guys i can sue passing dribble
48:27
that can defend multiple positions and that
48:30
the know we're
48:32
not going to box the see men and some
48:34
of that i do think as a team building strategy
48:36
where you don't want to
48:39
while your purely a point guard your purely a
48:41
center you can only buy this position i think that
48:43
the from a team building strategy you want to
48:45
stay away from that those gonna guys
48:47
and lesser generational and
48:50
to me the current in
48:52
be a just screams like
48:54
if you can be versatile and
48:56
skill that every position
48:58
you were just at a much better place then
49:00
if you have guys that are either limited
49:03
defensively or are
49:05
having a traditional sense to me i just want
49:07
to stay away from traditional centers in the draft
49:09
period this team
49:12
because you can go get those guys
49:15
the you think about who are the guys that are going to be available
49:17
this summer be a trade
49:20
there are worried mentioning guys who
49:22
were at the top the traditional center
49:24
was like rudy go bare and be under aden
49:26
and like these guys i could be had
49:29
they will why are we were we trust in somebody
49:31
twelve or even at thirty
49:33
that we could trade for i mean richard
49:35
allen like the cavs are just like yeah
49:38
we're all get in here and we'll take him what
49:40
we want to get in on this trade they just got your down and
49:42
all star center the
49:45
to me just i would say away just
49:47
because the thunder have so many assets down
49:49
the road where a traditional center will be
49:51
available exactly the best
49:53
created the thunder of ever gotten as neurons the well
49:56
the the new the center and
49:58
to me the use i would
50:00
use the draft assets on players
50:02
that you can't acquire you
50:05
know in big a good wings
50:08
you can acquire them just
50:10
can't teams want to keep those guys
50:12
they want to keep all of them and then free
50:14
agency like turn no not coming
50:16
to home city it is not going to happen so
50:19
to me it's i would take one of these
50:21
big that the top and then i'm just finding
50:23
a winger versatile player to swing
50:25
on and the guy like mark williams
50:28
any more going to be a good pro i
50:31
do , want to spend a lottery take on it understandably
50:34
so there with adding the guys are you can't
50:36
get and i think that's gonna be abrasive
50:40
that brings us to lou door i'm always talk
50:42
a little bit about air his seventeen
50:44
points per game last year not a great
50:46
shooter as you said a solid defenses are extremely
50:49
worried about him but with new door de aza here's
50:51
an interesting situation coming up this off
50:53
season for oklahoma city because
50:56
they have until june twenty nine for exercise
50:58
for exercise point nine million dollar
51:01
team option and if they
51:03
do that he would become unrestricted
51:05
and twenty twenty three if they
51:08
don't pick about op's and he'll be restricted
51:11
twenty twenty two this summer so
51:13
by picking it up you risk losing him for nothing
51:16
and a year or what do you think
51:18
is the better path forward for oklahoma city
51:20
andrew given the situation financially
51:22
with door and he also view him as kind of
51:24
a one of those pieces that you potentially
51:27
move in a big deal already sent a view him
51:29
as you know and next cheaper category and only
51:31
twenty four years old right now yeah
51:34
be checking the temperature from his agent
51:37
to see like how rich of a deal does
51:39
he want the ones north
51:41
of this team think the
51:43
you have to considered dealing him
51:46
the
51:47
i think the best option though for the thunder as
51:49
to pick up the option
51:51
give yourself as much financial flexibility
51:54
as possible in the summer of twenty twenty
51:56
three the thunder
51:58
have shown that is save feel
52:00
good about a situation that it as a jeremy grant
52:03
right before they resigned paul george
52:05
and roger immigrant back they
52:07
weren't afraid to do that they have
52:10
really really good relationships with
52:12
their players mean that cannot be
52:14
understated lou
52:17
grew up a thunder fans you know
52:19
i think lou loves being here he loves share
52:21
he loves this group he loves mark he loves
52:23
going to screw i've interviewed
52:25
him a few times in the do just smiles from
52:28
ear to ear all the time like i think he
52:30
really does enjoy being in oklahoma city
52:32
and so to me there's
52:34
also a guy that i think complained of last i
52:37
mean i
52:38
i have watch a majority the playoff games and
52:41
harvard is like just like those straight up analysis
52:43
what's going on the floor but it's also like okay which
52:45
players that are on the thunder could actually get
52:48
into one of these games the
52:50
not you know what their pants
52:52
and lewd or is one of those
52:54
guys i think the he can compete
52:57
i compete super hard not afraid to
52:59
take shots is willing to drive to the ram he's
53:02
got a lot of improving to do but
53:04
the me if he if he gets in a simplified
53:06
role where it's
53:08
the you're going to defend the best perimeter player
53:11
on on the defensive end than
53:13
off and you're gonna sit the corner where he
53:15
is the career forty percent
53:17
three point shooter from the corners that
53:19
you can simplify his role where it's just the
53:22
owners and attack and close outs and defending
53:26
i think that you actually have a really good player
53:28
who
53:29
doesn't have to initiate any off and doesn't get
53:31
to take all the shots so to me i think you
53:33
risk pick
53:35
up adoption be flexible and twenty
53:37
three and if you have to pay
53:39
him to seen then fine
53:42
but to me the thunder they're going
53:44
to have the kemba walker the off the books the derrick favors
53:46
the off the books they're going to be
53:48
in mainly months ago financially and twenty
53:50
three i would say just like keep
53:53
that flexibility cheaper options open
53:55
then you know see what door it looks like
53:57
with as like the work
54:00
the on an officer with door at peace
54:02
twenty three number of
54:04
other guys on the roster under twenty five live
54:06
appeal beasley at twenty one
54:08
poco at twenty three man at twenty
54:10
one robin snarl at twenty one tail
54:12
now it now it swanee tyler of
54:14
those six name's paisley
54:17
oh cool man robinson url
54:19
door now dawn
54:21
those six you can only keep one which
54:25
one would you be keep
54:29
man the
54:31
only written for wanting a real my buddy
54:34
poker that try men's really
54:36
good it's that max kevin i don't know the better the
54:41
color , got my poker packers hackers
54:43
sign really do and or
54:45
i saw on do that ninety
54:47
of them run i think that right away with
54:50
me
54:51
yeah this is a this is a hoax
54:54
who fanny pack costs custom
54:56
made by a shop here locally
54:58
shop go inside but overseas
55:01
that we actually we were no
55:03
a shop good my much as as understand
55:05
the and we it
55:08
adds and in other motorists huge
55:10
poco event was oil
55:13
you're gonna tolerate gonna pick someone other than
55:15
poker size of a half on here on
55:18
the site us if you told if
55:20
he sold me that i i gotta pick one of them
55:23
kramer
55:26
have you need a writer has raised i mean it's it's
55:29
you know i i'll i'll i'll beat
55:31
myself about brought the slater and old old
55:33
old vm him and ask for forgiveness
55:37
bizarre i don't know
55:39
it sure is trade just had so
55:41
much more off the bounce than i realized
55:44
whenever they took him and he has
55:46
he very defined elite
55:48
skill that is
55:50
highly sought after
55:52
in the league right now and
55:55
for a team that has next
55:57
to no shooting ah
56:00
the guy that can you
56:02
know take some pressure offer
56:05
the a giddy on the perimeter
56:07
who's already there who
56:10
you know we know fits
56:14
in and and seems to there
56:18
seems to be good you
56:20
know the mystery among most
56:22
three the how
56:26
she was just the
56:29
now he played kind of good their the into the year in
56:31
a live in a strong man lol
56:33
i don't know it's hard to say no or
56:35
else it'll points per game for and
56:37
seven rebounds forces the
56:40
are going on in the libraries are as much much better
56:42
whenever is making shots just everything
56:45
he's calmer everything is on his
56:47
of insists a very simple thing to say
56:49
but it just like i've
56:51
i've been happy that he hasn't looked like
56:53
a you know dear on defense
56:56
right like he's like dpp doesn't
56:58
fit you know he's he
57:01
can actually sort of hold his own their i just
57:05
yeah when i die by that eyeballs
57:08
and concerns everybody else does and still think i could
57:10
go either either direction i don't think
57:12
she's like cartoonishly
57:14
bad like some people try to make him out to
57:17
be you know i mean i think of better sort of part of the
57:19
the nickname takeru a nice
57:21
an odd shapes guy
57:24
radical nice try adding barbs
57:26
is that how
57:29
are you read of the how to get a major upset the
57:31
see if he offended as he jealous less
57:34
they don't like they built their didn't have the same
57:36
days i post offices et les like
57:38
very large sets not out there is
57:40
a woody allen , could be like
57:43
great finally somebody to screen for me thank
57:45
god but yes consensus consensus
57:48
much as i somebody else to take the pressure
57:50
off of your of i saw me to go he to see things
57:54
to talk to him about it now leave me alone
57:56
you know at least my with my bustle a bigger
57:58
than it easier
58:01
for our last thing here are of those
58:03
six the who
58:05
are the keepers those younger
58:07
guys basically beaucoup man
58:10
robinson url door valid on or
58:12
any of them like he gonna keep these guys
58:14
adding and store for sure
58:16
and then
58:18
you're adding trays right i think that you'd you'd
58:20
think too much about it i like the self creation stuff
58:22
that he's got off the balance the separation
58:25
that he can create like three dribbles
58:27
is that there's not
58:29
the anybody in the league they can do than also seems
58:31
like the he's
58:34
got it in him to you know
58:36
finish at the ram like he can get he can
58:38
get past guys i in and like like
58:41
you were saying earlier care what do you know he's he's not
58:43
gigantic but he's not small either
58:45
and and yeah
58:47
i don't know how are you will hold up on defense
58:49
when you know push comes to shove like we'll
58:52
see we'll see what happens and and
58:54
and and you know he'll get sought
58:56
after in the play offs i'm sure until
58:58
you know whatever but it some yeah
59:01
to have to have a guy like that who
59:04
can you
59:06
know run your offense against second
59:09
units if you need him to like i'd ideally
59:11
your staggering getting in shape and it's or
59:13
whatever but like to have a guy like that
59:16
you just can't you can't be successful
59:18
in the in be a now unless you have multiple
59:20
ball handlers multiple guys who can get shots
59:23
for themselves or other people and and
59:25
you know when you win the
59:27
others use these one had a monstrous just don't it
59:31
it the they just got up did the it's gotta be le bron
59:33
level right like it's you know the the even
59:35
even luca need more help and he's got so
59:37
it's just keep it a that the people
59:39
who say question
59:42
the shake anything like they must be the ball the most me
59:44
the ball like when you know you need multiple
59:46
team multiple guys that can handle
59:49
this happened that last
59:51
doing here
59:52
the oklahoma city they have all these
59:54
draft picks and they can move
59:57
wherever they want to within twenty twenty two
1:00:00
there is any party that thinks that
1:00:02
they are compiling all of these bags
1:00:04
there's something big in twenty
1:00:06
twenty three whether it's something involving
1:00:08
other cap space trying to accelerate
1:00:11
things quickly with freezing signings
1:00:13
and a big trade or whatever whether
1:00:15
it's i go on for the big fish
1:00:18
in the twenty twenty three drafts better
1:00:20
web and jamar seven plus but
1:00:22
center who is you
1:00:24
know already making waves as as generational
1:00:27
prospect with his shooting ability can do a lot
1:00:29
of the bows he could be like go bears defender
1:00:32
why many analysts like the real deal and
1:00:34
twenty twenty three the oklahoma
1:00:37
city they have been out three
1:00:39
hundred and eighty seven first round draft picks
1:00:41
over the next seven years they
1:00:43
could put all those on the table if i wanted
1:00:45
to if they have a number three pick next year
1:00:47
they will prevail wealthiest six more
1:00:49
first round draft picks for number one nobody
1:00:53
does that dailies have the ammo
1:00:55
do you guys think that prestige game
1:00:57
here is to be in a position
1:00:59
to acquire the guy that he
1:01:01
wants whoever it is whatever potential
1:01:04
opportunity becomes available that is that what
1:01:06
he's angling for this of gonna be a slow
1:01:08
rebuild of a bunch of rapids i
1:01:10
think it's gonna be so sorry bone trust
1:01:12
or the much graphics and is a lot of moving
1:01:14
within draft spend maybe like this year will see
1:01:17
what he might do again next year and the year after
1:01:19
movement within the draft like slotting
1:01:21
am thirty and thirty forty five
1:01:23
or whatever it might be yeah
1:01:26
i mean that the tough thing is thing who whoever
1:01:29
gets this the first pick in next year's
1:01:31
draft they're just gonna laugh every
1:01:33
time that they picked up sampras's phone call
1:01:35
like our not i don't care if you like
1:01:38
ten draft picks like who cares who no
1:01:40
no thank you like this is what this is all
1:01:42
about the acquiring this exact
1:01:44
on a player so yeah
1:01:47
i think
1:01:48
i don't think that they're under any impression that the
1:01:50
that those pics allow you to get whatever you want
1:01:52
but to me to
1:01:54
have like the sustainable success of the thunder
1:01:56
wanna have it's gotta be
1:01:58
a slower rebuild and
1:02:01
it's gotta be something that the
1:02:03
other thunder still very certain about before
1:02:05
they press go and i could
1:02:07
be as soon as next off season where they
1:02:10
have a twenty three drops they've had that
1:02:12
of be like the third draft this
1:02:14
rebuild the body got say giddy where
1:02:17
we get it to and whoever you get at
1:02:19
five or wherever they are out next year i
1:02:22
think you can feel pretty good about a team
1:02:24
then too maybe
1:02:26
use a picture trade for
1:02:28
a center or traced force something
1:02:31
else the yeah
1:02:33
to me it's gonna be a slow process
1:02:35
i think that that you look at what
1:02:37
same hanky dead
1:02:39
i think that sam wants
1:02:41
to carry that out and have the chance to
1:02:44
actually let that happen and
1:02:46
so the and and he's
1:02:48
got the ownership backing i don't think the league
1:02:51
is losing their minds with the thunder doing
1:02:53
right now so i think that you've got like
1:02:55
a real shot too the actually
1:02:57
carry out the process without a tobias
1:03:00
harris interruption
1:03:01
i'm with and drew i think it'll be
1:03:04
in be a slow roll to either
1:03:06
i don't i don't think that some he's
1:03:09
gonna these links to try
1:03:11
to speed the process up all of sudden
1:03:15
they traded you know
1:03:17
they did try to as yeah then
1:03:19
i would think like oh yeah the the he thinks that
1:03:21
when the hours like duncan to point out and
1:03:24
the he's it's just all chimps onset
1:03:27
like a are gonna happen you know but
1:03:30
yeah the or anything other than that
1:03:32
i mean i'm i'm i'm with injury that just slide
1:03:35
teams are trading
1:03:37
picks the the matter how many are going to give them if you can get a
1:03:39
guy like that and you know you can get him
1:03:41
you know it it i i don't i don't think
1:03:43
that that i think
1:03:45
ultimately what will happen the the
1:03:47
consolidation and picks like you say there will be
1:03:50
little little many versions of that
1:03:52
to move up in giraffes things like that
1:03:54
two seconds for a guy the trade deadline
1:03:57
some like that whatever but i think
1:03:59
the big time in like here's
1:04:01
you know the mother lode i
1:04:04
think that's the last thing before
1:04:06
they are like or up were
1:04:08
competing but i think it's like the like
1:04:10
phoenix doing the crystal trade show
1:04:12
like okay here's our play
1:04:15
this is yours or you know it
1:04:18
will resolve ships are not or not i don't know
1:04:20
but here's all our best ships
1:04:22
or whatever i think that
1:04:24
that will come the
1:04:26
end of the rebuild a fat makes sense i
1:04:29
don't literally yeah yeah let like it like and
1:04:31
twenty six they have the are the top
1:04:33
four protected first from houston
1:04:35
and and unprotected first from the clipper so
1:04:37
it's like you're saying the next two
1:04:40
three four years it's about
1:04:42
our those micro movements targeting the guys
1:04:44
that you want and then twenty
1:04:47
five or twenty six or twenty seven
1:04:49
when you have some of those take some eros and the george
1:04:51
deals still common in with that's
1:04:53
the point where it's like okay the
1:04:56
final piece you'd hope at that point right
1:04:58
now makes no sense you have to allow
1:05:00
for like some
1:05:03
you know want one of the big time
1:05:06
due to get past and you know
1:05:08
whenever he loves shea what's the gop
1:05:10
you have to allow for that right in that that you
1:05:12
know things things change and
1:05:15
and and you know maybe
1:05:17
the situation where the dude is young and
1:05:19
it's not so far outside the timeline
1:05:22
that it doesn't make sense and prestige eyes and so
1:05:24
he does pull the trigger it's not that it could it happen
1:05:26
before then i just don't
1:05:29
think that reggie
1:05:31
is trying to make any moves
1:05:33
in the immediate that would
1:05:35
mess with their potential
1:05:38
to have a big time blue
1:05:40
chip pick i think that that's
1:05:42
what his concern is
1:05:45
even if he's gonna go try to trade for some
1:05:47
young disgruntled dude or whatever often
1:05:49
times he's targeting these
1:05:52
do they were in the top five in the draft and stuff
1:05:54
like that the he's a big believer in
1:05:57
after the top or the judge the guys that you want
1:05:59
to take chance the wanted so i i i
1:06:02
picked up a yeah i'm almost say i'm
1:06:05
i'm with
1:06:06
the under powered was a spot thank you guess
1:06:09
yeah catholics rask mm mm
1:06:11
sex or hammock
1:06:16
thanks again tyler and andrew for joining the void
1:06:18
thank you to jesse lopez for producing thank
1:06:21
you to you for listening this entire
1:06:23
and be season i cant believe season be finals
1:06:25
already coming up on thursday on
1:06:27
fired up already back on friday with chris fernando
1:06:30
statement for that have
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