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never sounded whole. Stevens.

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Around with thirty one when he went

3:17

missing in Seoul said in the north

3:19

west of England. He.

3:22

Was a mixed race man who walked

3:24

with a limp due to cerebral palsy.

3:27

He had learning difficulties and mental

3:30

health. Problems. And was

3:32

known to the local police as vulnerable.

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The last sighting of season was

3:38

on Oct twentieth. Twenty eighteenth.

3:40

He was captured on Cctv

3:42

wearing a black coat and

3:44

gray sweatpants, holding a can

3:47

as fizzy drink. So.

3:50

That was not an area Stevens

3:52

usually visited. His family have no idea

3:54

why he was there and they are

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Nineteen Eighty Seven, Stephen To and.

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Had a dramatic entrance into the wells.

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Term ways before major day,

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diverse major hospital or not

4:52

the emergence this is area

4:55

and we stay when he

4:57

was wage at three and

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a half pounds. And.

5:04

He was very sick i

5:06

know as a hernia and

5:08

his breathing was bad and.

5:11

I thought was gonna lose him. Christine

5:14

Stevens mom remembers him being

5:16

whisked away by doctors who

5:18

transferred him to another hospital

5:21

for an emergency operation. So

5:23

I had to go home. We know,

5:25

baby! And nine. Or

5:30

it. At

5:33

all I thought. It was

5:35

a few days before pristine was able to me

5:37

as soon. As a result,

5:39

break and Zola too many choose

5:41

that has. I wasn't allowed to

5:43

see them that because a at

5:45

Shades game said. In in the

5:47

seats in the. And

5:50

were allowed to hold him. That says

5:52

compared to me others de vez a

5:54

risk very very time necklaces. That

5:57

some the cat smiling.

6:00

The topic it was wind was I thought

6:02

it was violently. Yeah.

6:04

Was a bit scared to hold him because

6:06

he was so tiny that are months. They.

6:09

Were so good. So holding half

6:11

the social soldier long time because.

6:14

He was hard not bit not been able to

6:16

hold him. You know when you have your baby

6:18

you want to hold on quite? Don't you ever.

6:22

Get. I was. That was

6:24

heartbreak that. He

6:26

was special. He was special. Because.

6:31

You're society, so. He.

6:34

Will Not my special little baby. They.

6:36

Are to take him out of the injured as

6:38

you buy a you have to issue a result

6:40

is tubes attached so i could just holes and

6:42

we all the to gym. And

6:45

then switching but by then the believe

6:47

cat going also but they hold him

6:49

for long. To. Little bit scared

6:51

of is shedding tears. Something went wrong.

6:56

Stephen. Spent the first few weeks

6:58

of his life and an incubator and

7:00

especially soon it were. Christine would visit

7:02

him every day. And tell us

7:04

a million six weeks he was finally allowed

7:06

home. Only to pick

7:08

him up where my husband. And.

7:11

Them and when he put a lotta ways

7:13

on the numbers right ready to come on?

7:17

The tubes all over him and everything

7:19

but he gained his wage. And.

7:22

Them. And we got a

7:24

moment. To Thank God

7:26

And. He.

7:28

Managed to start putting his way back corner

7:31

know nam he had a for your loss

7:33

to call a point mister Sam but. In

7:36

the Andy aged okay, I know,

7:39

He. Had a ended up out why? you

7:41

know the premise, your babies and he

7:43

was five foot ten and begun stocky

7:45

and they enjoy. Gj A turned out

7:47

really worth of. A

7:53

family lived in London and baby

7:55

Stephen came home to Christine. His

7:57

dad and two year old twin sisters.

8:01

When. Steven was six months old.

8:03

She's period speaker. Crystal

8:06

and. The church and made up

8:08

to her hometown of past and in

8:10

the north west of England. I

8:13

came back to press and to the from the

8:15

sister. An issue

8:18

was marriage and she had children of

8:20

her own. Ah

8:22

I went when the chosen

8:24

to move there and then. I

8:27

was happy to get away at them at the

8:29

time and nam and. We.

8:31

Ended up staying at my sister's sure

8:33

about sixty several months or like all

8:35

the house. then. I

8:38

brought them up. a male. Christine.

8:40

And her children were settling into

8:43

their new life when she noticed

8:45

Steve and was struggling with his.

8:47

Walking. When you

8:49

were about thirty miles, I was

8:51

walking on tiptoes. Took

8:54

him back to the hospital and they

8:56

found out it a a mile cerebral

8:58

palsy. He had all of

9:00

physio. That came around to

9:02

the house and they had to do

9:04

is your exercises from I had to

9:06

do is stretching on his legs everyday.

9:10

Stephen. Cerebral palsy meant he

9:12

needed an operation to loosen the

9:14

tendons in his legs. And

9:17

I will constant medical appointments. But.

9:20

He dealt with the castles. Admirably.

9:23

He a pregnancy as works on the

9:25

clothes on his leg sunny and special

9:28

birds you know where to go to

9:30

the places where they made his patients

9:32

treated him. But he never

9:34

bothered you. may never never really bothered me.

9:36

Just got all were. Able.

9:39

Is no problem a version unleash, Just

9:41

absolutely Trees I never had any problem.

9:43

he he all the ever cried. He.

9:46

Was laughing laughing all the some

9:48

and. He always has

9:50

a big smile on his face. By.

9:55

The time Stephen was size. The

9:57

family had moved a few miles down the

9:59

road. To another town called

10:01

surely. Where he started at

10:03

the same school as his older sisters. A

10:07

d Go to school and he enjoyed school

10:09

and he had lots little friends that came

10:11

around and nice to go. Find. Out

10:13

with them, that is. Bit. Of

10:15

a Cloud. the series is on making

10:17

people laugh all the time and. The.

10:20

Bit disruptive at times. The. Lady.

10:23

Gaga report. Throughout.

10:25

Primary School besides a few minor

10:28

incidents his time there with my.

10:30

See his p. But. A

10:32

Stephen grew, he began to feel

10:34

self conscious about his cerebral palsy.

10:38

He didn't light were in his blood

10:40

sweat. nigga of the oh the vessels

10:42

are playing game is a bit embarrassed

10:44

about some that school in London. Nary

10:48

a special be some movies bougie

10:50

lie because they've gotten fasher want

10:52

to say about. That

10:56

as soon as they got. Nine

10:58

the suddenly A wouldn't worry splints and he

11:00

wouldn't wear his base. You want to debate

11:02

I all the other kids and. Long

11:05

way. Normal. Things.

11:08

By. The time she got to secondary school, he

11:10

was keen to find ways to sit in. A

11:13

risk. The. Class Clown The nuances

11:15

of make everybody laugh cause I've already

11:17

would laugh as a gym thought this

11:20

didn't make him popular with the teachers.

11:22

It wasn't concentrating for

11:24

pillow. They said he's

11:26

got the ability to

11:28

learn, but. He

11:31

am. A a mess around

11:33

a bit. He didn't

11:35

get excluded. A couple of times

11:37

with this. Is

11:39

a bit disruptors in class. Steam

11:42

was diagnosed with learning difficulties

11:44

and he received additional support

11:47

for his behavior. Crunch Illegal

11:49

was. The south

11:51

again. Be in a bit. And

11:54

also relied not during his own like

11:56

a man and. He wanted

11:58

to be our all the salmon nothing. Started

12:00

then. Going around

12:02

with the wrong crowd of. It. In

12:05

the. I do smoke and better wage

12:07

and not as I found some in

12:09

his bedroom and. He

12:12

says it was his. At

12:14

sixteen, Stephen left school. He

12:17

didn't have any qualifications, but he quickly found

12:19

himself a job and a local shop. Yeah,

12:22

got a job as far. As.

12:26

In a didn't last long because it

12:28

can be a nice houses i was

12:31

ever going out and nice and then.

12:34

I said they finished him because he wasn't ten

12:37

in of. It is. Catch

12:39

it. Say to my mom all trial

12:41

got another job and now listen them.

12:43

but his mental health wasn't that good

12:45

wasn't well that I could sell the

12:48

whistle. they longer than. Stephen.

12:50

Liked to go out drinking with his friends. Sometimes.

12:54

it the place would fetch him back. were being.

12:56

Drunk. And their trip

12:58

they hurt them brought one not being job

13:00

in charge of a push bike. On

13:03

a com, remember where you gotta push by?

13:06

Her. Nam the french them back and told him

13:08

to get to bed and everything but. He

13:11

started drinking a bit. More

13:13

and I kept saying. No.

13:16

While Smallwood, the and all this and. And

13:19

then sometimes they would argue. Remains at

13:21

is on the my business and November

13:24

and knew that he went so far

13:26

away anyway. But. Householders,

13:28

Be careful and be careful what you do.

13:30

Winning always go back and. Christine.

13:36

Think Stephen was using alcohol to cope

13:38

with the negative comments about his limp.

13:40

At thing case disability

13:43

because. He. Used to says

13:45

to me sometimes that. People.

13:47

Call the name cause a role for me and

13:49

all this and nothing that affected him along. In.

13:52

On his line and nam. Used.

13:55

To fight that buzzer. I

13:57

think deep down it affected him a lot.

13:59

In all on. People

14:02

calling him names because he was

14:04

funny and. I

14:07

think the jury helped him to them.

14:09

Clock. Block it out of it. It

14:12

wasn't just Stevens drinking that was causing his mom

14:14

to worry. Sometimes.

14:18

He was like. Really

14:21

high high not pay one day when

14:23

you a top. Flight. He

14:25

dances around it all really Africa and

14:27

then a few hours a day could

14:29

be so quiet A wouldn't go word

14:32

as will not go. Zero change and

14:34

he would do things on impulse a

14:36

be shut down in the house. And

14:40

a be there in his pajamas and then

14:42

all of a sudden is it going going

14:44

out now the way though and he says

14:46

i don't know I'll just go. And.

14:49

Now. Even when he was

14:51

about thirteen. He jumped on

14:53

a bus and go somewhere and. A

14:57

dream meal. Is there a mean lives in

14:59

law? I'm in thing give our but day

15:01

and it just goes up other what you

15:03

doing is I'm just walking round. And

15:06

a would it would do that a lot.

15:08

Guess train some weren't. Just go and he

15:10

says I'll be by Kenny always come by.

15:13

He just used. To do a lot

15:15

of things, well, think about the A, just

15:18

do it and then. I

15:20

used to say that uk some in danger to do

15:22

is up going to places you don't know. When.

15:25

Stephen was about nineteen years old. He

15:27

was taken under the care of the

15:29

local Mental Health Service. The.

15:32

First diagnosed them. Were

15:35

Bipolar. And

15:38

then another meeting The said know

15:40

if we change it to. A

15:43

personality disorder. Then.

15:46

The changed it to skate so

15:48

Affective Disorder. And

15:50

then to change. It to paranoid

15:53

Schizophrenia. I

15:55

don't think the psychologists knew exactly what

15:57

were the probably knew there was something

15:59

wrong. That they didn't know exactly.

16:02

With. Support from cameras Season was

16:04

able to start living independently and

16:07

a flat as his own. He

16:12

didn't last long because. He.

16:14

Had households in households and.

16:17

Parties. And never see my other

16:19

and. They. Was

16:21

taken All this food, Know

16:24

all of them that some of whom the second is

16:26

all this food. Stephen. Was

16:28

receiving disability benefits and people would hunting

16:30

up at his slump for parties on

16:32

the days he withdrew it. I

16:35

went to his for a few times. reporter

16:37

you got to stop this for a party

16:39

in and all this us of the neighbors

16:41

and everything you've gotta think and and the

16:44

neighbors are complaining. And nam.

16:47

And. You should be sad. day says have no

16:49

food and of electrical My money's gone and everything.

16:52

But. He do the same thing a week later

16:54

and a do is again a nice of them

16:56

was going on. You know why why you

16:58

during all this. A nice as

17:00

you don't masa am not bother to the village

17:02

will. Stay when

17:04

they can't let people just take you know

17:07

as usual and I just use your house

17:09

and you'll a chicken your food. Christine.

17:12

Believe people were taking advantage of her

17:14

son and she tell him as much.

17:17

But. Stephen would always disagree. He

17:20

said one of my friends the my

17:22

friends. But. He wouldn't get any

17:24

said. The off of the Molson this friends.

17:26

there was just people to take advantage of

17:28

them. But they am

17:31

Social worker said that's to do

17:33

is when to love You know he

17:35

he he thinks the raise rents. They

17:38

did have some friends that credible sigma know

17:40

Tim, but. A

17:42

loss of them knew that it was

17:44

so vulnerable. It led to

17:46

many would buy them all drain speed I'm

17:48

olga them take away. But I

17:51

did leave him in their house full of nice

17:53

and as years went on the When song. Stephen

17:56

moved house a number of times.

17:58

The parties and highness. When. Night.

18:01

He didn't have a manchester for a

18:04

little while. A room with ensure. That.

18:06

The same thing up and now I set

18:08

to travel to Manchester. There. Was

18:10

some loves their that smash Saw

18:13

this plateau. And he didn't

18:15

bother. He would never ring the place, he

18:17

would never get lazy. rather anything. The

18:19

did it too is five months yes I got

18:22

him back to move. Black hair. And

18:24

it a just met anybody. Walk

18:26

all over the nosing and I says you know

18:29

dole not. Every once in

18:31

awhile Stephen menace to stop drinking get

18:33

himself into a good routine. He

18:35

was a. Very very clean person. Don't get

18:38

me wrong the was very clean he

18:40

has shower in the mornings are before

18:42

went to bed when he was right

18:44

in the head. He's

18:46

cleaned is flat from top to bottom.

18:49

And he said mom, love and and worrying

18:51

and he does it for six months. We

18:53

outlet in anybody know, drink, no jobs, no

18:55

nothing and I was so proud of him.

18:59

At this point in time, Christine

19:01

and Stephen were inseparable. We.

19:03

Used to go out for days I used

19:05

to cause he's probably used to go to

19:08

bingo all we used because he looked bingo

19:10

and neil of in the summer we used

19:12

to course of Blackpool lives and sense as

19:14

well over of the days out and he

19:16

loves that. He knew

19:18

when I was officer. I knew when

19:20

a result is that. we

19:23

just got on like a real like a

19:25

brother To me a was a sudden the

19:27

brother everything the best friend. And

19:29

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spot your own troubles. Stephen was always

20:13

looking for ways to help others. On

20:16

day when Nam provide to is thought he

20:18

had a homeless man. the. Officers.

20:20

That month. He. Went Boom is

20:22

always to live. He said I'll

20:24

let him in a never ever let him have

20:27

a bath and of good food. A. City

20:29

don't know in the lead know. Even

20:32

if they could be anybody know. But.

20:35

That's what he was. It was children themselves

20:37

but he out people that was you may

20:40

as well. they will that way out. That's.

20:43

The worst evils. The Lotus

20:45

family and loved his nieces and nephews

20:48

and systems. He. Was guide

20:50

to everybody. But. Whenever Stephen fell

20:52

off the wagon he would ask is

20:54

months. Space. And.

20:58

He always ring may. And

21:00

say mom, I'm out with all

21:02

my mates. Please.

21:04

Do Not Keep ringing were please leave me

21:06

alone. I'll be fine. And

21:09

I didn't ring game or anything.

21:11

And then obvious ring me when you get

21:14

home, then. And. Then it

21:16

a used to goal month. He

21:18

would sleepy all offer couple of days and

21:20

then. They get back to normal

21:22

again. Stephen. Carried

21:25

on in this way throughout his twenties,

21:27

oscillating between being on the straight and

21:29

narrow when he would enjoy spending time

21:31

with his mom. And indulging

21:33

in prolonged episodes of drinking that would

21:36

cause him to isolate and inevitably lead

21:38

to steep decline in his mental

21:40

health. And he was ring.

21:42

we'll the say the television is talking

21:44

to me, he's a voices and things

21:47

like that and he was very paranoid

21:49

in the end and he thought people

21:51

was outside his flat colonies names and

21:53

they saw people to get him. And

21:56

that's the Stephen. Just. Reading

21:58

The Crisis team. Get them involved And

22:01

as a. And many say

22:03

no, no, I'm going, I'm going

22:05

out And then he would square

22:07

one for a period of time

22:09

before he went missing. Stephen found

22:11

himself in a purple patch for

22:13

he was maintaining good habits. He

22:16

was living back in Preston they his mom.

22:18

he was speaking as we day and spending

22:20

all their weekends together. Stephen

22:22

also had a psychiatrist he trusted

22:24

and Terrorists is is to disown

22:26

twice a day. And

22:28

he love the show is going. Imbeciles the

22:30

company for him and. And

22:33

the made sure that he did his shop. Their money

22:35

always says his shop in underway but. The

22:41

car was made to. Stephen took his

22:43

medication, Which. Was locked away for

22:45

his safety because he'd been in hospital.

22:47

Overdosing previously. But.

22:50

Things went downhill again when Steven cycle

22:52

interest left his jokes. Stephen.

22:54

Did miss a couple apartments for didn't the

22:57

new Sakara. She saw the ad and he

22:59

told me Stephen. They don't normally

23:01

like that all the one and the not

23:03

really bothers about me illnesses or not. They.

23:06

Said they don't normally that is A Did not

23:08

read my fouls and. They're

23:10

out to discharge Were and I said no

23:12

Stephen, they're all discharge. Yeah, Cause if you've

23:14

been there long, long time and all this.

23:17

After Stephen missed several appointments, he was told

23:20

he'd been discharged and he called his mom

23:22

in a panic. Or

23:27

so why. And he went. To.

23:30

Discharge me for not going for a couple

23:32

of times. He said i wanna get know

23:34

how. I said i

23:36

know the car do that new I know yeah

23:38

the garden. He said they donate. And

23:42

he has don't say an average

23:44

don't say items. That

23:47

are really need to get back into Israel

23:49

and tell them He said mom the discharge

23:51

we own The Curve is a good oh

23:53

God no nobody could win. Anyway,

23:56

I'm not going back to that flat. nah

23:58

don't wanna go about so that's right, Stephen

24:01

ended the phone call saying he was going

24:03

to truly where he had friends and acquaintances

24:05

to drink with. He

24:07

didn't returned his that for a few

24:09

days, and Christine concerns that without being

24:12

under the watchful eye as his usual

24:14

Karras seal wasn't taking his medication. Stephen

24:17

State as Ein Sof for short time

24:20

before Christine received a phone call from

24:22

her daughter. When a seasoned sisters. My.

24:25

Daughter Runway Altman said oh

24:27

same as a because why

24:29

do we went to draw

24:32

they asked his sister's there.

24:35

And a beverage in trouble spell in

24:37

I didn't wanna go all the way

24:39

on. They. Were putting a

24:41

mope a name. Is

24:43

stay there So that night. A

24:46

has gone to my daughter thousands and

24:49

so I spoke to Stephen us of

24:51

what you do in a jolly again

24:53

authority to keep away from Joel they

24:55

say spot for yeah you know it

24:58

wasn't to that nobody results are when

25:00

he went to Germany money were no

25:02

mobile going on going home and of

25:04

it and add a board five pound

25:06

of most pay off my daughter to

25:09

go. Oh. Christine.

25:12

Felt reassured upon hearing that Stephen was

25:14

headed home. I thought to be

25:16

own money sleep be off casino it's they

25:18

also couple of days and. I. Thought

25:21

you were all and I thought, well, On.

25:23

He said you were going on. Being.

25:25

Mindful to get Stephen space, Christine

25:27

didn't call him immediately. I

25:30

gave it five good cause sometimes I thought a

25:32

it comes at home but to is where it's

25:34

at all says he told me never to ring

25:36

and everything. While after five years

25:38

since does a full is all wrong with

25:40

you must have other no sleep by now.

25:43

And so Christine called her son. Stephen.

25:46

Son was turned us. I

25:48

kept ringing. No, no, no noise

25:51

or anything. There. Is your

25:53

stuff but. Middleton. Said he

25:55

didn't have a full when he went to our our

25:57

soil. A What the last? The night before us all

25:59

the. I'm missing. Out

26:01

on the place and then a surge in

26:03

our our it's shekel miss of cause. A

26:07

mentor, go home. Police. This

26:09

to the slack to see a Stephen with their.

26:12

Nuts. When I found out. Or

26:15

the place for not that you would have

26:17

been old. Stephen.

26:21

Was nowhere to be sand. He.

26:23

Was registered as a missing person. And

26:26

the police zones and investigation. To

26:28

track him down. Nuts

26:30

when I found out the next thing over

26:32

the place with the videos ladies you all

26:35

for didn't know anybody it as far as

26:37

I know in Salford. Saw

26:39

of a while says a level.

26:42

Since it is a small city

26:44

about twenty miles. From truly C

26:47

C T V. Shows season

26:49

in a shop called Balkans

26:51

Days as Seven Am on

26:53

the twentieth of October. Twenty

26:55

eighteen, the day after he

26:57

left his sister's house. He

27:01

didn't have no money, only that five. what?

27:03

we'd also give him. He

27:05

didn't have no close. it ends

27:07

up no money isn't have nothing.

27:11

In the grainy cctv footage recovered

27:13

from Vog and booze, Stephen is

27:15

seen leaving the shop with a

27:17

soft drink. They were seen in

27:19

the video with it com the

27:21

been to a lot been so

27:23

he won't drink any. they were

27:25

drunk or anything so what made

27:27

you go there are do not

27:29

know I think a lot very

27:31

nervous enough video and not enough

27:33

jobs. Vickery to things for news

27:35

live together that the police record

27:37

that is a lot so taser

27:39

a lot video Vasile A. Now

27:41

he doesn't a little nervous. It's

27:47

not known how or why Stephen

27:49

ended up in Salford. But.

27:51

Police did manage to try some of

27:53

his prime movements. They. Discovered

27:55

the after leaving his sister's

27:58

house Stephen had attempted. The

28:00

use a cash machine and truly.

28:03

He. Then made his way to Manchester. The.

28:05

Police Police The stephen boarded the train.

28:08

But. See: Cpc wasn't fans

28:10

concerns. Said. Christine wonders if.

28:12

Some I'm but have given him a list. We.

28:15

Know from the sub Cctv. That

28:18

by the next morning. Season had traveled

28:20

to sell said. Which. Is just

28:22

a few miles from Manchester. He

28:25

wasn't the bargain face shop on Swinton

28:27

Road as seven am. And then

28:29

one or the citing was confirmed. The premier

28:32

store on H Cough Road at about eleven

28:34

am. These shops i

28:36

just one mile apart. So Stephen

28:38

could easily have walked between them.

28:41

And that. Is where the

28:44

police trail to find Stephen to rent.

28:46

From. The cold. Together

28:51

new leads on Stevens. Movements. The

28:53

police engage the local media, but

28:56

they made a vital error with

28:58

Stevens physical description. When they

29:00

first put the are in the papers. I

29:03

was shocked to see

29:05

missing person Steven Gerrard.

29:08

Described as white. How.

29:11

Far as.wise or survive you put

29:13

it is, why hasn't he makes

29:15

Ray. Re. Took command you to

29:18

set it off. And then when it

29:20

comes to another newspaper, think it was Charlie

29:22

gardener. Celebrate. It was

29:24

why again. so I had to ring and will

29:26

play against Chelan. You know

29:28

he makes race noted for white person.

29:31

Stephen is a mixed race man

29:33

is I said ten stocky build

29:35

and at the time as his

29:37

disappearance he had sought dark cropped

29:40

hair. He. Was wearing a

29:42

black jacket with gray jogging bottoms and

29:44

Fred trainers. But. The

29:46

initial media coverage mistakenly describing

29:48

him as white did not

29:51

generate. Any new leads? It

29:54

could have spotted him. And

29:56

disabled so I am. The Cozies is mixed race

29:58

and we're not looking for. The results were

30:01

widely. So that was vital

30:03

that they should have really. Make

30:06

sure I'm with is no says

30:08

Paul limb and he was big

30:10

bills he will Firefox and. Saki,

30:12

Somebody must have seen him.

30:14

Somebody must have noticed that

30:16

limit. In the first

30:18

year after Stevens disappearance, there were

30:21

several moments when the authorities thought

30:23

they might have found something. Or

30:26

got one phone call same way.

30:28

I found a lake and the

30:30

river air. Wow! Would.

30:32

I be able to identify it.

30:36

And. To. Save

30:38

it was stevens. As

30:41

as yeah, heavy a drafter on

30:43

that. I got a phone call

30:45

through Desert to say oh it's

30:47

okay with the ladies like. A

30:50

sudden. Then there

30:52

was another time when the please run

30:54

we have been said. there's a black

30:57

jacket been found not long as to

30:59

save or what? listen. Astrodome

31:01

of At. He was wearing a

31:03

black jacket off the chemistry. And

31:06

then he said well we'll see in than

31:09

this at all with are not It wasn't

31:11

Stevens. Over

31:15

the last few years there have

31:17

been no new sightings, a Stephen,

31:19

or any fresh leads linked to

31:21

his case. No. British come

31:24

forward and they told me that place.

31:27

Because. They haven't got a lead to go

31:29

on. There's nothing they can do. I

31:31

just hope. One. Day somebody

31:33

might speak of person been so I'll

31:36

never know. So Day. What

31:39

happened? and I'm thinking. Somebody

31:41

Zeidan something the most be I do.

31:45

Christine. Believes that whatever happened

31:47

stephen happened on the day he

31:49

was last seen. Saturday,

31:51

the twentieth of October. Twenty.

31:53

Eighteen. Stephen.

31:56

Was waiting for his disability benefits to

31:58

be paid and. His account which

32:01

is why she was seen at

32:03

the cash machine in surely the

32:05

day before. This is

32:07

very impulsive because are sold the places That's

32:09

why I said to the please. Please.

32:12

Check back to camp because I know

32:14

he had no money and nazis payday

32:16

that was his pay day or a

32:18

would guess nick on in the back.

32:20

So second any sycophantic a. Good

32:23

belief Stevens and can't has

32:25

benefits was still. Completely.

32:28

Untouched. He. Was

32:30

a definitely gone to bypass machine to get

32:33

some money out because he was. Up.

32:35

Up to he had nothing he had move the

32:37

rhythm. it. And he would have bought some

32:39

cigarettes. Or something. must have happened

32:41

in Salford. Enough told the police when it's

32:43

on. Se. Definitely happen

32:46

because they never got to that cash

32:48

machine. We. Know Stephen

32:50

was last seen at the

32:52

shop on H. Croft Road

32:54

so said at eleven am

32:56

on Saturday the twentieth of

32:58

October. Something. Happen

33:00

he sold for dies the key place.

33:03

Cause. They never got no

33:05

more Cctv is. At fault for

33:07

not shop. Where. Did he go when

33:10

he left that shot? Which way did he turn?

33:13

So. Where did he come from? San.

33:16

And why did he not collect the money?

33:18

From his bank. These.

33:20

Are questions Christine has

33:22

been asking. Myself on for

33:25

five years, Out

33:27

and advantage of the know. how

33:29

the hell can people not notice

33:31

of with him breathe know school

33:33

limp somebody most suspicious as him

33:35

somewhat a muslim. At

33:37

begin enough though is a drug dealers Bernadette in

33:40

all got a man but he never old and

33:42

him when he turned of what it is they

33:44

all important to the lends money out but. He

33:47

he these things Oriana thought Well, If

33:50

anybody that violent not talking devil to talk

33:52

is one the i met him go successors

33:55

in Texas Tech. his money you know because.

33:58

That's. What people do, They want your money. That

34:00

may, but because he's right, never been. So

34:02

is that when thousand the other thought well

34:04

they don't want is money. Could.

34:10

It be possible to stephen came

34:13

to home at the hands of

34:15

someone else. But.

34:17

And why didn't they take any of his money?

34:20

Oh, could Stephen has sadly

34:22

taken his own. Nice. We.

34:25

Know Stephen has a history of

34:27

overdosing. But. When he went

34:29

missing, he didn't have his medication with

34:32

him. And. As he

34:34

did, her senses somehow. Why

34:37

has his body not been sound?

34:40

Perhaps. Stephen decided to disappear.

34:43

And is living rough on the streets. But.

34:46

Surely he'd have collected the money in

34:48

his bank account first. And

34:50

with his mental health problems. Will

34:53

eventually have been picked group. But.

34:55

You saw it. As

34:57

a vulnerable man could, Stephen has

34:59

been picked up and transect. A

35:02

six of modern day Slavery. He

35:05

would talk to anybody is hop the goal

35:07

located. Is is happy if someone

35:09

says come on couple years old set

35:12

years of what. He. Just as

35:14

everybody it was vulnerable. A

35:16

soul. everybody was his friend that you

35:18

know he didn't think about danger much.

35:21

she a pretty cells in danger. God

35:23

knows what's happening is called of easy.

35:26

Got a call with some lung. All

35:28

things go through your line. I the

35:30

law law sleepless nights know. It's

35:34

a Mr is a complete this

35:36

shit. Living with our answers as

35:38

a huge impact on Christine and

35:40

her family. Were. Missing

35:42

so much that mid middle says.lot

35:44

They keep everything bustled. I get

35:46

a I couldn't speak about Stephen

35:48

for ages. I couldn't because the

35:50

offseason ale says me where was

35:52

just so close at is so

35:54

special to me. They were special

35:56

from the day were born because

35:58

he was so. I know I

36:01

because they were disabled that even

36:03

my mix so close the sewers.

36:07

He goes for more than the

36:09

others because he was special. And

36:11

he soon. especially those business

36:14

Christine and his sisters live.

36:16

In fact, that Stephen could

36:19

still be found. Someone.

36:21

Might come forward one day is sometimes

36:23

people get. Found us to

36:26

ten years old. They sometimes. I

36:29

still hear his voice of methods that

36:31

is still in Call Mon Mome. A

36:34

kiss, his teaching them on and say good

36:36

morning, good night and I and. You

36:39

know, as hard. In

36:54

many cases, it takes just one

36:57

piece of information. To lead

36:59

police and family to the answers

37:01

they claim. Perhaps

37:04

you were in Swinton on the

37:06

morning of October the twentieth and

37:08

so stephen going in or out

37:10

of the bargain fees on both

37:12

and road. Or maybe

37:14

even Pendlebury. A few

37:17

hours later and spotted him on

37:19

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37:22

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37:24

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