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Tower is back in your

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life on this. Wednesday,

3:01

January twenty fifth

3:03

two thousand and twenty

3:05

three hello again everyone. I

3:08

sure hope you're doing well. It is great to

3:10

be here on a Wednesday we love De

3:13

around these parts. It's always very exciting.

3:15

We get to answer some questions. We get to take you

3:17

home. For the weekend, we get to

3:19

set the week De get to talk to some big names,

3:21

and let me tell you, there are some

3:23

big names on today's show.

3:25

I am very excited about today's show.

3:28

I love this lineup. I can't wait to

3:30

get into it. And this

3:32

is my final stop before my big trip to

3:34

San Antonio. Yes. In fact,

3:36

a lot of people from San Antonio reached out to

3:38

me over the past couple days and said that well,

3:42

they said that Frank misrepresented their

3:44

great city. But there's a lot of things to do,

3:46

a lot of things to

3:47

see, a lot of things to eat,

3:49

There are if you go to the Riverwalk. Yeah.

3:52

No. I mean, that's that's where I'll be hanging out

3:54

per your suggestion. Looking

3:56

forward to going to the Alamo per your

3:58

suggestion. The Alamo dome, not

4:01

per your suggestion, but I mean, I feel like you gotta go

4:03

to the Alamo dome. If you're going to the Alamo and of course, Royal

4:05

Rumble is happening at

4:07

the Almodrome. So exciting times.

4:09

And speaking of the

4:11

Hoya rumble, how about this?

4:14

Our first ever. Royal

4:16

rumble, Lottery is taking

4:18

place later today. I mean, just listen to the

4:20

sound. That's

4:23

your it sound. So small.

4:25

Yeah. I think it's perfect. I know you

4:27

guys were lamenting the fact that it is small,

4:29

but I think this is perfect. You

4:32

know, are you into I feel like you are because

4:34

you're an audio guy. Are you into ASMR?

4:37

Not like intuitive, but That's

4:39

sort of your thing. I mean, I I understand

4:41

it. Does this qualify? I

4:44

hear it. I closed my eyes and all I hear is

4:46

man, I must be the world. Smallest, like,

4:48

bingo dispenser. Is

4:50

this a bingo dispenser for ants?

4:53

It's all very nice. I mean, I feel like you

4:55

know, GC spent a lot of time

4:57

finding the perfect

4:59

lottery dispensing. It seems

5:02

perfect to me. Didn't take a picture of it next to,

5:04

like, a quarter so you understood exactly

5:06

what size it was. Listen, Frank, I didn't

5:08

see you lamenting over

5:10

this decision for hours on and on Amazon.

5:12

You know, you were just like, yeah, we're the biggest

5:15

one, you know, no finances coming to play,

5:17

no nothing. It's gonna be great. I'm

5:19

gonna pull out all the numbers myself,

5:21

GC, Frank, near Greg.

5:23

Joe getting in the mix, sloppy Joe in

5:25

the mix, crypto, Joe. We're still not sure what

5:27

we're going with, but he's getting in the

5:29

mix. A lot of exciting things

5:31

to get it. Can I I'm so excited

5:33

about the intro? Can we play the intro off the bat?

5:35

Or does that screw you guys up? I just I

5:37

love the intro. It's an intro for the

5:39

segment that we I know, but the intro is great.

5:41

It's a good teaser. Can we just play it,

5:43

please. I beg a view.

5:45

De we have the intro? She's working. I

5:57

mean, what's better than this? It

5:59

is probably the coolest intro. It's

6:01

fantastic. Shout at the GC. You did

6:03

that by yourself GC? Yep.

6:06

Wow. Lot of new wrinkles on the show.

6:08

We even have a control

6:10

room camera setup?

6:12

De go live to the control room right now. I mean, look

6:15

at this. Wow. This

6:17

show, man. There you see Crypto Joe working

6:19

hard there. You see Andy. We don't have a nickname for

6:21

Andy. Yours is sloppy. Yeah. I'm not

6:23

sure. What are we going with? By by

6:25

Royal Rumble. Is it sloppy or

6:27

is it crypto? I think it's a sloppy crypto.

6:29

So De doesn't like sloppy. He doesn't like

6:31

crypto. What I I kinda like sloppy if I'm

6:33

being honest. I don't think you wanna be sloppy

6:35

and crypto. Same. You don't wanna be sloppy with you

6:37

crypto. Oh, he doesn't like either.

6:39

Okay. So we're going with crypto, Joe? That's

6:42

the one. BJG,

6:45

he's suggesting You

6:48

can't make your own nickname. Yeah. You can't make your own

6:50

nickname. Sorry. One eight. And photo and crypto

6:52

sloppy. Then's the

6:54

rules. And, Frank, is that going

6:56

on the air? No. Still not on the air. Okay.

6:58

Perfect. So it's just dead

6:59

comforting it. Alright. So as

7:01

you can see a lot going on and we'll

7:03

answer questions. As always, we are

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much. Before I get into anything, I

7:25

do wanna say you may have seen

7:27

over the the past few days

7:30

difficult times in the world

7:32

of media, difficult times in

7:34

the world period. There's a lot going on.

7:36

Difficult times here at vox De,

7:38

unfortunately, late

7:41

last week. It was announced that

7:43

there will be some layoffs and there were some

7:45

layoffs. And

7:47

this affected us here at

7:49

MMAR HQ one

7:51

of our one of our dearest,

7:53

dearest friends and colleagues, the great

7:55

SriniVass, unfortunately no longer

7:57

with the company, but will remain

7:59

a friend of the show and a friend of ours

8:02

for years to come. In

8:04

fact, one of the few people who worked

8:06

on the original iteration of

8:08

the show and just an absolute

8:11

mention of a human being would do

8:13

anything at any time under

8:15

any circumstance to help us out

8:17

work behind the scenes, tech, production,

8:19

etcetera, troubleshooting everything,

8:21

a jack of all trades, a

8:23

big man united fan And

8:26

I miss him in particular on this particular

8:28

Wednesday because, of course, later on today, we've

8:30

got Forest Man United, part one,

8:32

Caribald Cup, can't wait for that. Very

8:34

prestigious cup match. And

8:36

we talk about Forrest and United these

8:39

days a lot. So we miss him. We

8:41

appreciate him. De wish

8:43

him the best. Again, always will have

8:46

friends here, and I know he's gonna do

8:48

incredible things, but I wanted to mention that

8:50

he is not working anymore and it's a huge,

8:52

huge bummer for not only myself but the entire

8:55

team because he was just an incredible. Everyone

8:57

needs a SriniV us in their life. Everyone needs a colleague

8:59

and a friend like him. And we will

9:01

miss working with them. So, Shrini, if you're

9:03

out there, all the best, my friend.

9:05

Alright. Let's get into

9:08

Today's lineup back in the show will do the Rumble

9:11

Lottery. Can't wait for that. Stay tuned for

9:13

that. Again, we each pick five

9:15

numbers and we'll see who

9:17

wins the big pot of

9:18

gold. A hundred bucks. Right? Because it's

9:20

twenty times five. Am I right? A

9:22

hundred bucks at stake? A hundred each.

9:24

Hundred each. I'm in. Hundred each. Okay.

9:26

So five hundred bucks at stake apparently.

9:29

Who knows? It keeps changing. And

9:31

that's for the the rumble this

9:34

this weekend. Prior to that, we'll be joined by the

9:36

brand new UFC Light heavyweight champion

9:39

Sweet Dreams Hill. Can't wait to talk to

9:41

him. He's back home in Michigan. Massive win for

9:43

him. Where did he go from here? Of course, we had Yuri

9:45

Pahaska on the program.

9:47

On Monday, we'll talk to Jamal

9:49

Hill, who is now the champion. Of

9:51

the UFC heat won that vacant title, something

9:53

Jnambuovic and Nagomed on Kalei couldn't do

9:55

after the Yuriy injury. Prior

9:57

to that, We'll be joined

9:59

by Sage Northcutt. Super

10:01

Sage Northcutt, lied. We won't be

10:03

joined by Sage North Cut. We'll be joined by Todd

10:05

Duffy Both of them kind of fit in the same

10:07

sort of compartment in my brain because

10:09

both have not fought in a very long time. Todd

10:11

Duffee gonna be on to share

10:14

some news old friend Todd Duffee. Is

10:16

he fighting John Valente? Is he doing

10:19

something else tune in at

10:21

around Three twenty

10:23

five for Todd Duffy, the Duffman,

10:25

back on the program. Been a while. Prior to

10:27

that, Super Sage North got three o'clock,

10:29

can't wait for that. Prior to that, two thirty

10:31

five. Brandon Moreno, the assassin baby, the

10:33

brand new UFC flyway champion.

10:35

Once again, we had safe suit, his coach

10:37

on the program. Brandon Moreno will join us. He's

10:39

back home. And prior to that,

10:41

Oscar De La Jolla, the Golden Hoya, what

10:43

are we gonna talk to him about? Can't wait to

10:45

get him on the program again. He's got a big

10:47

show this weekend. And

10:50

it's going down at the YouTube Theatre

10:53

in Inglewood up to

10:55

no good California. Stay

10:57

tuned for the Golden Boy Oscar De Hoya

11:00

later on today.

11:02

But first, Everyone's

11:05

favorite segment of the week it is time.

11:08

Yes. It's time for a good old fashioned

11:10

q and a MMA fans.

11:13

Yes. Ladies

11:15

and gentlemen, the moment has arrived to

11:18

hear from the man Oh, wow. Ariel

11:19

Helwani. Live

11:22

from the box studios in beautiful

11:24

New York City. It's on

11:26

the nose. Oh, yes.

11:28

To answer your questions. It's got my questions.

11:30

Receipts in on your On my feet.

11:32

Here he is. Hurry

11:34

up. How long he? Yes.

11:38

Yes. Thank you very much, Mike Heck.

11:41

Moderator Lewis working oh

11:43

so hard as always

11:46

appreciate him doing the

11:48

intro for all of us. Love it.

11:50

And love this segment. Everyone's favorite

11:52

segment of the week, everyone tunes in to hear

11:54

a shoot on the world of

11:57

mixed martial arts, as

12:01

oh, wait. Oh, this is good. Okay. First time

12:03

this year, question one is question one. How

12:05

about that? Moderator Lewis. Going

12:07

old school on us. Alright. Let's get into

12:09

a Cheeto pancakes. Up first,

12:11

has anyone tried Cheeto

12:14

pancakes? Any chance could you

12:16

imagine if they actually did Cheetah pancakes?

12:18

That would be amazing. Frank's a big

12:20

effort Friday De, right? No.

12:23

You excited for slap tonight, Frank?

12:25

Not at all. Mhmm. What

12:27

is up, Ariel? So with

12:29

Jamahal, Hill winning this Saturday, it

12:32

has lots of us questioning who gets the next

12:34

crack at the title of 205. Here's how I

12:36

would match up the division. It's a

12:38

little bit of a curveball, but just stay with

12:40

me. Starting off by booking Alex Perda versus

12:42

Robert Whitaker for the Midway Belt,

12:44

then how about we do Jamal Hill versus Israel

12:46

at Desenya? It's the perfect style match

12:48

up for Izzy. And with a win, it

12:50

gives them the option for a champ, champ fight

12:52

with either Robert Alex or another

12:54

205 fireworks match

12:56

up with Yuri You also do Jan versus Smith,

12:58

Magomed versus Rocket to determine the

13:00

next title contender after that fight. Is

13:02

this too much for me to wish for?

13:04

Also, really wanna try

13:07

some of mysterious Frank's balls. That's

13:10

verbatim in fact. Me

13:11

too. How about this? We have it right

13:14

here. Whoa. This

13:16

is

13:16

not an ad. You went out to the Bodega.

13:18

By the way, it's really cold. Yeah.

13:20

You went out to the Bodega and you got

13:23

some balls for us. I did. And,

13:25

man, did I get some looks

13:27

from the guys at the Bodega? I thought

13:29

they love you. They thought they did. Well, they do. They

13:31

think I have a problem. Because, like, there was a

13:33

lot. I loaded up six of them. Wow.

13:35

And they just kinda looked at And I was like, oh, I have some

13:37

cool records they wanna try then. They were like,

13:39

oh, okay. Helwani They

13:41

didn't believe me. Yeah. They want your I mean,

13:43

the bottle is absolutely beautiful. I'm I'm

13:45

looking at one here as well. And it is

13:47

Guadalajara. Such a deep blue Or Gorana

13:49

as I would call it. It's Gorana. Mhmm.

13:51

Hundred percent it's Gorana. That I am

13:53

confident. I I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm

13:55

just I'm not gonna stop calling

13:57

it Gorana. Can I can I try it? I

13:59

want you to try it. There's a problem. It's

14:01

a twist off. So what's the problem? Is

14:03

it a

14:03

twist off? Oh, no. It's yeah. Of

14:06

course, it's a twist. Okay. Alright. It

14:08

looked like a a flipper.

14:10

Are we all doing this together? I'm so excited

14:12

for this. I can't lie. Oh, corporate Alex jumped the gun in

14:14

the yard right is. Typical.

14:16

Alright. Here we go. Oh,

14:18

I'm ready. It sounds great. Who else is having

14:20

some back there?

14:21

We're all having friends watching

14:23

during his Yeah. So me, you corny goose

14:25

balls. Oh, yeah. Frank.

14:27

She's

14:27

up. Why don't you wait for us? Oh, I can't

14:30

wait.

14:30

Oh, I'll do that. Crypto Joe. There it is. I

14:32

got it. Frank. Cheers. Joe and I have already

14:34

had ours -- Yeah. -- that Jordi had. De can't

14:36

be bothered. Can't be bothered on blame her. I

14:38

can't wait though. They were describing it earlier, and

14:40

it was a lot of flavors that that really

14:42

sun enticed Does You should put the

14:44

logo out. Why? They didn't

14:46

pay us for this. I just didn't I did reach out,

14:48

Traci. If anybody from Ball's

14:50

as watching. I hit you guys up on Twitter, you know? Maybe we can

14:52

get something going here. Yeah. We'd love to

14:54

get some more balls here. Here we go. A little bit

14:56

like cream soda. Yeah. Alright. You

14:58

ready? Let's do it. Breaking news?

15:00

First time drinking Frank's balls.

15:07

Oh, wow. I love it.

15:08

Very good. Very easy to hold by the way.

15:10

Easy to, like, just cup it in your hands. The

15:12

rigid bottle. Yeah. The rigid bottle is

15:14

quite interesting. I mean,

15:17

it it really does. Frank said it tastes like

15:19

lemon lime combined with cream soda. It

15:21

does taste like cream soda. Are you gonna

15:23

finish that or Helwani to This

15:25

meant this meant Frank is like, I need another. I need

15:28

another. I have a big problem with it though. It's

15:30

carbonated. Frank? No. Your

15:32

balls here have high fructose corn

15:35

syrup

15:35

chips. I don't like that. I don't like If you don't wanna

15:37

drink it with big corn syrup, a

15:39

hater. I mean, this I

15:40

know you're both around here. And this

15:42

is this is great. Alright. We'll

15:44

enjoy it back there. Try not to burp too

15:46

much. Back to the

15:48

actual question, I love you Cheeto.

15:50

I hate your idea. I'm just

15:52

gonna be honest. Hate your idea. First of all,

15:54

Peleira versus Whitaker. Pineda versus Izzy is

15:56

the fight to make. That's the biggest fight of all of these

15:58

options. You gotta make Neta versus

16:00

Izzy. Off the bat, it's the

16:02

rematch, it's the Quadrillogy,

16:04

Right? This is a quadrivalry. It's another apology.

16:07

By the way, someone on the show on Monday said

16:09

quadrivalry in passing. Was it safe food?

16:11

That brand didn't it that. I

16:13

did also show Monday. I

16:15

watched UFC countdown,

16:18

and every single time they referred to it,

16:20

they said Quadrivalry. So Yeah. Looks like we were

16:22

on the right side of the history. Hate

16:25

to say we told you so. So you

16:27

gotta do Alex versus Izzy. You do

16:29

Alex versus Whitaker. Now all of a Duffee,

16:31

you're, you know, you're potentially ruining

16:34

the Pineda versus Izzy

16:36

fight. Is he going

16:38

up to 205? Why would he do that? He needs to get

16:40

his belt back. First time up at 205,

16:42

wasn't great. I know it's a different style match up. Don't

16:44

love that. The fights to make are,

16:46

it's very easy, Alex versus Izzy,

16:48

Jamal versus Yuri. Now, here's the big

16:50

question. If Yuri

16:52

isn't ready, Now you have a question.

16:54

Either Jamal waits, which, you know, he De just

16:56

fought. It's not like he has to fight in March

16:58

or April. He could if if it's

17:00

truly July, August, if that's truly

17:03

to come back, here comes the burping

17:05

prank. It's a problem. Oh,

17:08

man. It's either Anthony Smith,

17:10

Magomed, or Rakesh. Right?

17:12

And we debated this on on Monday. I'm

17:14

down with Anthony Smith. I'm down.

17:16

I guess you'd have to rank him

17:18

Smith, Magomed, Jan. Or

17:21

Magomed Smith, Jan.

17:24

And and there's no perfect answer. Smith's coming

17:26

of loss. He missed weight on Friday

17:28

when he was a backup fighter, Magomed got

17:30

his opportunity, fought to withdraw. Jan got

17:32

his opportunity, fought, there's no right

17:34

answer, the biggest fight, probably of the

17:35

bunch. Is Smith versus Jamal? Oh, by the way, they just

17:37

trained together? Oh, by the way, they were supposed to fight in

17:39

March. So I love each

17:42

other, but don't love the idea.

17:44

Big money. Hi Ariel still crossed assessing

17:46

the bill's loss and coming to the realization

17:48

that our season is over. I'll never

17:50

get used to the painful feeling of defeat, especially

17:52

when it seems so promising that we get

17:54

a fairytale ending. To the chaos

17:57

slash drama of this past year.

17:59

That being said, I hope we can all look forward to better

18:01

times than Frank jumping through a table one day.

18:03

I agree. Amen big money I'm

18:05

still very sad. I was talking to my members of

18:08

my family, my brothers, cousins,

18:11

yesterday. They're all big cowboys fans, and

18:13

they were also upset about the

18:16

Cowboys and to their season. And

18:18

I told them, like, you guys were playing with house

18:20

money. Like, no one thought you were winning. Sure.

18:22

Maybe you had a chance to make it to the

18:24

conference championship. You were not real contenders.

18:26

I'm sorry. You were never contenders. We

18:28

were the Super Bowl favorites. From the

18:30

preseason up until now,

18:32

We're at home. We're in the snow.

18:34

My homes is injured.

18:36

You know, everything is working in our favor.

18:38

They're banged up. Their old line is depleted.

18:41

And they didn't show up. It was probably the worst game that

18:43

I've seen them play in two

18:45

years. All three of their losses in the

18:48

regular season were very I mean, within

18:50

a point or two. Right? The Jets game, the

18:52

Dolphins game in September, and then the

18:54

Vikings one was just the craziest one and

18:56

over time. They did not show up.

18:58

To not even show up and get punched in the

19:00

mouth off the bat

19:03

is, I mean, is inexcusable. And that's why I

19:05

feel like something has to happen. You

19:07

know, I know everyone love loves

19:09

Leslie Fraser, but I mean, this is two years in a row

19:11

now where the defense crumbles.

19:13

That's an issue. What happens to Ken Dorsey, he probably gets into the show.

19:15

I mean, I could I could talk about this for three hours. I'm

19:17

not gonna bore you. But to go back to your

19:20

point, yes, sucks. I

19:22

just wanna see one. We all just wanna see one. We

19:24

all just wanna know what it feels like to see one,

19:26

and I believe that fan base really

19:28

deserves it. Can I just say one more thing? I don't

19:30

know, like I've told you guys, I could tell

19:32

you about the Bill's roster all day

19:34

long. I don't really you know, I know the big dogs. I

19:36

know the big names. Who is this

19:38

Jabron Eli Apple? I mean, who is

19:40

this guy with his tweets? How

19:42

Like, if you're a bangles fan and you like

19:44

this guy, I question you. You

19:46

can't you can't seriously like this guy. Like, I know

19:48

you're supposed to like your guys. I know you're supposed to

19:50

support your team. This guy is a clown.

19:53

What an absolute clown on Twitter?

19:55

He's not even that good. Didn't you get cooked

19:57

in the Super Bowl last year after talking all

19:59

this shit? And making fun of the Mar

20:01

Hamlin and the dick I mean, Stephan Dixon

20:03

is a thousand times better at his

20:05

position than Eli Apple will ever be.

20:07

Like, what did he do? What a what a clown this

20:09

guy? I mean, you can't truly like him.

20:11

Are you a fan of his? GC, you like

20:13

Eli

20:13

Apple? Mean, I'm

20:16

not gonna, like, list them in my

20:18

top fifty favorite players. He's a

20:20

loser. I mean, what is this kinda nothing to

20:21

me? Like, are you just now learning about Eli

20:23

Apple? Do you

20:24

not remember

20:24

him on the giants, the whole, you

20:27

know, deal there? Like, this is what he's always been

20:29

like. 0II know. I guess, I mean, the

20:31

apple. The fuck is y'all apple?

20:32

And and I can't believe you're just not hearing about

20:34

him. I mean, he's talking all this shit on

20:36

Twitter. Retweeting all this shit.

20:38

Yes. This is Eli Apple. What a

20:40

loser? Is he even a pro bowler? Like,

20:42

is he even good? Who

20:44

is this guy? I mean, he's alright. Was he on the boat? Alright.

20:46

Was he on the boat? I don't know if he was on

20:48

the boat.

20:49

Yeah. Anyway, let

20:52

me just say this. And I'm not that type.

20:55

Bengals better pray that they win this Super Bowl.

20:58

All that shit talking, all that

21:00

whining. Oh, they booked it in

21:02

Atlanta. Oh, was she in

21:04

Atlanta? Y'all better fucking

21:06

hope that you win the Super Bowl

21:08

because been a lot of shit talking. I

21:10

mean, I never thought I would root for the

21:12

Chiefs, but here I am rooting for the Chiefs.

21:14

By the way, did you know GC that they

21:16

like a Chan who day because they win so much and so they

21:18

can't find someone who actually beats them. So they're asking

21:21

everyone who

21:21

day, who day who's gonna beat us. Meanwhile, they've never

21:23

won any big games. Did know that?

21:25

It's a weird thing. Anyway, all I

21:27

do have to do say about that is the Bills have never

21:29

won a Super

21:30

Bowl either. Of course, but we don't go around chanting

21:33

Yeah. We're fucking humble and hungry.

21:35

I mean, we're as humble as it

21:37

gets. We we we go and

21:39

and donate to your charity when we

21:41

feel like, you know, oh, two, you

21:43

get hurt. Let's go donate to your charity. De you

21:46

you you're not seriously comparing

21:48

the two. Right? I'm not saying that we're better

21:51

because we've never won, and they've never won, but we don't have a we

21:53

our identity isn't based off of no one can beat

21:55

us. De you know what I'm

21:56

saying? Yeah. Like, the You're specific to

21:59

BANGL's whole identity is based on Their

22:01

whole

22:01

identity is who they. That is their whole identity.

22:04

Like,

22:04

it's just

22:04

something they say, you know, who they nation? You say

22:06

back there with fucking Who day

22:09

nation? Oh,

22:09

who day nation? What does that even mean? I

22:11

mean, no one circles the wagons like

22:13

the Buffalo Bills. Yeah. We fucking De we

22:16

fight. We come back. We get punch. We come back. And guess

22:18

what? We'll be back next year. Mark my

22:20

words. So, like, some people circle the wagons

22:23

better. Like, no. I mean,

22:25

who choose? What do we get the bangles

22:28

to? K. Do they? How many Super

22:30

Bowls have they been to? Yeah. You know

22:32

what I mean? One, two. Yeah. How many have

22:34

we been to? Four straight babies.

22:36

We're not counting how many how many Super Bowls

22:38

we've been to. It's how many we've won. I

22:40

mean, if we're gonna do a a Madam

22:42

got zero. You've got zero. We

22:44

Daniel's got zero. I'm not gonna be, like, other people

22:46

in this company laughing at you for being a foul

22:48

fan. But if you're coming I mean, twenty eight to three, let's let's,

22:50

you know Which is worse? Which is

22:52

worse? Twenty eight to three or four straight to

22:55

rule losses. Four straight Super Bowl losses is

22:57

an incredible feat. Like anyone mocking

22:59

the bills for losing four straight, like, yes, there is

23:01

somebody to that. You also have to make it a

23:03

four straight. Like, you don't just get a free

23:05

pass to the Super Bowl. I'm talking about

23:07

heartbreaking, ranking in in

23:09

terms of heartbreak. Like, going to

23:11

four straight Super Bowls and not winning a single one

23:13

is heart breaking. Is heartbreaking? Failing up twenty eight to three and losing Is

23:15

it a smart job? Yeah. It

23:17

was heartbreaking. That, like, really

23:19

heartbroken. I've never had a feeling like that

23:21

in my life. For, like, two weeks

23:24

afterward, I was, like, disbelief. III

23:26

mean, the closest that I felt to that recently

23:28

is the thirteen seconds where you think you

23:30

have something gonna taken away. Yeah. This on a much bigger scale and

23:33

obviously a much bigger, you

23:35

know, margin, right, in between

23:37

winning and losing. But I will

23:39

go to my grave and say, yes.

23:41

It sucks to lose those four straight, but I will also

23:43

say they made it to four straight. Like, you can

23:45

that has never happened. I mean, you were, like, conscious. Like,

23:47

you were, like, ten, twelve years old when that

23:49

was happening. No? Yes. I I cried.

23:51

Do you remember it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you know how

23:53

heartbreaking it was? I know how heartbreaking it was a hundred

23:55

percent, but I also know how good those teams were, and I know how

23:57

hard it is to make it to let

24:00

alone three, let alone two, let alone one.

24:02

Right? So III find it funny when

24:04

people use that as,

24:05

like, okay. And by the way, what does this year's

24:07

team have anything to do with the force trait?

24:09

Those

24:10

deals I'm really just talking about in terms

24:12

of who are breaking this yet. Well, who

24:14

day? My who day. Anyway, we went too

24:16

far on this. My question you and

24:18

the gang is, how do each of you deal with huge disappointment in sports?

24:20

And is it more difficult when a favorite team

24:22

NFL NBA, MLB or individual

24:25

MMA boxing comes up short, thanks, and

24:27

go bills? Well, I can answer this

24:29

first. Obviously, I have a different connection to

24:31

the sports teams than I

24:33

do the fighters.

24:35

Right? Because the fighters, I'm covering them.

24:37

I mean, I have connections to them, but

24:39

it's different. The sports teams, I was actually trying

24:41

to explain this to wife. Because even though I've

24:43

known her since I was twelve and she has,

24:46

you know, been friends with me or, you know, we've

24:48

been together for a lot of these

24:50

moments, she still doesn't quite understand

24:52

why I care so much or,

24:54

you know, over time, she's like,

24:56

this is just so crazy that you care so much. Like,

24:58

I get it when you were fourteen, why

25:00

do you care so much now? And I tried to explain and

25:02

I don't even know if I could do a good job

25:04

of explaining it. It's a

25:07

community. It's something you believe in. It's

25:09

an escape. It's a it's

25:11

it's like it's something that, like, you

25:13

have your day to day life, you have your ups

25:15

or downs, your worries, your

25:17

your stresses, all that stuff. The

25:20

sports team is that escape.

25:22

Right? And so you love them and

25:24

your heart is attached to them in

25:26

a different way than almost anything else.

25:28

And it's like the subcession that you

25:30

have to seeing them

25:32

prevail and to saying like, we're

25:34

number one. We have come out on

25:36

top. And as the

25:38

years go by and they don't

25:40

come out on top, I believe

25:42

that desire becomes greater and greater. Now

25:44

when I was a kid, when I was in high school,

25:46

I used to get very emotional when the Knicks

25:48

or Bills would lose. Bills

25:51

were I was younger. Right? So it was, like, ninety

25:53

to ninety four. And then, like, the bills took

25:55

the baton while ninety three was heartbreaking.

25:57

Ninety two was the first time I cried. When

25:59

the when the Bulls beat them in seven

26:01

games in in the second round.

26:03

Ninety three was tough because we were up to

26:05

o Ninety four was tough. It was game seven NBA

26:08

finals. And I just I don't know what it was, but I

26:10

just I had this intense passion in people I'd

26:12

go to school, and people would there was

26:14

one time, not proud to say

26:16

this. Knicks, pacers,

26:18

tenth grade. They lose to the pacers,

26:20

so this is ninety

26:24

ate. And I I was at

26:26

school the next day. Someone was like, Hoya about them

26:28

next? And I took the kids head and I smashed it

26:30

into the locker. I was like, don't you talk about my

26:32

next? I mean, I was a crazy kid. That's why, you know,

26:34

like, when the Sean stripens of the world. Yes. Is

26:36

that bad? It's not bad. I mean, let it all

26:38

know, man. Yeah. So when the Sean's trickled

26:40

though, you never been in fight. Trust me. I've been in some

26:42

fight over stupid things.

26:46

Point is, I've

26:48

always taken it harder. I was talking to

26:50

my nephew who's a big cowboys

26:52

fan and he was distraught over their

26:54

loss and I felt like I was talking to myself.

26:56

Thirty years ago. So, you know, we just care. I

26:59

don't know. I don't but III

27:01

have a a connection with those teams, in

27:03

particular, the Knicks and Bills. Because they remind me

27:05

of my youth and I've been cheering for

27:07

them for so long. The fighters are different because

27:09

they're individuals and we cover them.

27:11

It's a little bit different. You know what I mean? Yeah.

27:13

I could answer for Connor. Go

27:16

ahead. So on Saturday when we were here for the

27:18

watch party, I took a

27:20

little break before the main card to go to the

27:22

kitchenette. Yes. And I'm

27:24

reflecting because Voxo just made

27:26

some tough decisions a day before. And I'm like, man, this place is kinda

27:28

empty. And then all of a sudden, I hear

27:30

some slamming and some yelling from a part of the

27:32

office that I never ventured to. And I literally

27:34

was like, do we what's

27:36

going on here. And I wanted to say, like,

27:38

hello. You know, I'm I'm worried that there's

27:40

an employee. I don't know. I go and

27:42

it's Connor. Very upset

27:44

that the Parley fell just lost,

27:47

but didn't know anyone was around, so he

27:49

just kinda let it all out. And what was

27:51

he saying? It wasn't what he was saying. It was just saying,

27:53

fuck. Probably over and over

27:55

shit. The abruptness. I will

27:57

also say this isn't about fighter

27:59

losing. It's about me losing --

28:01

Yeah. -- different four bets at

28:03

at one

28:03

time. It's

28:04

I mean, this is easy. It's team

28:07

sport. It's everything you just said. Like, the

28:09

community around it. Like, you've been there since day one with

28:11

them. Like, it's it's no doubt

28:14

Team Sports. Hundred

28:16

percent.

28:16

It's a it's it's a different connection. Right?

28:20

Yeah. A thousand percent. I

28:22

will know fighter my

28:24

phantom for fighter could never even

28:26

compare to my fandom

28:28

for Georgia football. Right. Right.

28:30

I mean, it's it's like

28:32

it's your youth. It's it's your parents. It's your friend.

28:34

It's just a different

28:35

connection. It's just a totally different connection.

28:37

I just want one.

28:40

Just give me one

28:41

Yeah. I was about I was about to say. Hello. I

28:43

feel like hi, everybody. I was

28:45

about to say I feel like this is because your

28:48

franchises have been so tortured. Feel like

28:50

if you were able to get over the

28:51

hump, it might mellow that

28:54

out a little bit. Maybe no smashing heads into

28:56

lockers. How was that? Was

28:57

that a weird thing to admit? Yeah. Probably. I

28:59

mean, we're all letting it out here. I mean, if we get

29:01

one, I'm not like fourteen. It feels like

29:04

the fandom decreases a

29:06

little bit.

29:06

It's not even

29:07

that. It's just that, like,

29:08

it's, like, house money. Like I I think

29:10

it is that, like, I care so much

29:13

less now that Georgia went back to back.

29:15

Like, I'm not looking at real

29:16

rooting, like, pages anymore. Like, I'm just

29:19

like, just gotta trust them. They'll do what they

29:21

do. You know, they've paid their debts

29:23

to me.

29:23

I couldn't agree more. If, like, when

29:26

the cavs won, you can't say that

29:28

it still means as much. You got

29:30

it. Oh, it means just as much in my opinion.

29:32

But

29:32

Oh, come on. And

29:33

you got it. You know what I mean? You think the year after

29:36

did? A

29:36

hundred percent. I

29:37

wanted to win that second title the year

29:40

after two. But when

29:43

you

29:43

lose, it doesn't hurt as bad. That's all. It's not

29:45

that it doesn't mean as much to want to win.

29:47

It just doesn't hurt as

29:48

bad. That title I can coast on that

29:50

forever now. Like, I'm good. Forever. I'm good. We

29:52

did the other guy

29:53

back for Georgia football. I'm done.

29:57

I

29:57

think I think if you can get out of the dog house, you'll you'll

30:00

be good. You just need one. You just

30:02

need

30:02

one. I just want one. Why am I having

30:05

trouble with So

30:06

It was coming

30:07

Show me your left hand. You're right. You're

30:09

still recovering from Frank's balls or you I don't

30:11

know. What what's going on? I mean,

30:14

we've touched a lot of nerves here right off the top when we're talking

30:16

about my teams, upset, this and

30:18

that, lockers, all kinds of

30:21

stuff. Big big Knicks went over the Cavs last night though. Listen, I don't wanna bring

30:23

it up. I'm not that kind of guy. See, I'm not that

30:25

kind I don't rub it in. All the people that were

30:27

talking shit to me about, like, the Dolphins in week

30:29

three, you know what I did? I texted all of them, said,

30:31

respect. See you next year. You guys are great.

30:33

You I'm not that guy. I'm not a

30:35

shouting fraud kind of guy. What is

30:37

the word? I'll do it for

30:38

you. It was a it was a nice win in the garden.

30:40

I'm just not that. It's a game from Julius

30:42

Randle. I loved it. Class.

30:45

De Chung. Yo, Ariel, with the announcement

30:47

of John Jones returning, can we get a promo?

30:49

We see now I'm on what's going

30:52

on? Can we get a promo for newer

30:54

fans? As to his claim for goat status. In my opinion,

30:56

he should be number one of the pound for pounders,

30:58

and newer fans may not even understand

31:01

why. Maybe New York Brick and tag in for this too. Thanks for all that you

31:03

do. To be honest, I feel like New

31:05

York Brick is the one who should deliver this

31:07

message. He shouldn't be by the way, I don't

31:09

think Sunny is saying that John

31:11

Jones should be number one right

31:12

now. I think he's saying all time. Right? Is

31:14

that what he's saying? I think we're are we talking

31:16

goat or pound for pound because Well, that's the thing. He

31:18

said goat and then he said pound for pound.

31:20

He can't be pound for pound number one right now. You agree

31:22

with that. Right? He cannot. You I mean, we

31:24

haven't seen it. We need to see him fight

31:27

for that. My rule, by the way, with the

31:29

rankings, any rankings pound for pound or you

31:31

have to have fought for,

31:34

like, if you didn't fight for

31:36

a

31:36

year, or

31:38

have a fight booked within that

31:41

year, you're out of the rankings. For

31:43

example, As

31:46

of like a day or so ago, two

31:48

days or so ago, Fred Cenganu is

31:50

out of the rankings because he

31:52

didn't fight within a year. Right? His last fight was,

31:54

like, the twenty third of last

31:56

year, something twenty four, twenty something

31:58

like that. And he didn't have a

32:00

fight book. If Francois Gannou

32:02

had a fight booked in December to come back

32:04

in March or even in January,

32:06

he's still in my rankings. That's my

32:08

fictitious you know, rule that

32:10

I made up in my mind. So

32:12

for John Jones, his last fight was February of

32:14

twenty twenty, he's, you know,

32:16

he's ineligible. Now when he comes back, even though

32:18

he has a fight book because it's been that long, he

32:20

comes back, like, the moment he fights, March fourth he

32:22

wins that fight. He's back in there, baby. Like, and

32:24

this I mean, especially if he wins. I

32:28

have always said this. I

32:30

wonder if New York Brick agrees with

32:32

me. I have two lists. The

32:34

lists are as such. There's the pound

32:36

for pound list with no

32:38

restrictions, and then there's the pound for pound list

32:40

that excludes those that have had

32:43

a PD you know, in fraction or two or

32:45

three. Right? So if if that list

32:47

doesn't, like, if if we're not doing

32:49

that, if there are no restrictions,

32:54

there's no asterisks, whatever, he's

32:56

number one. I don't know how anyone could argue

32:58

that. The resume is unmatched. The winning

33:00

streak is unmatched. The

33:02

quality of opponents is unmatched,

33:05

right, especially early on. The murders

33:07

wrote the legends that he beat who are still

33:09

very much in their prime, unmatched.

33:12

If we're going with, alright, anyone who

33:14

has tested positive or failed, whatever,

33:16

not included,

33:17

then he obviously can't be in because he had a

33:20

couple of in fractions there. Do you agree

33:22

with that? I do not

33:23

have two lists, but I do not pregrudge

33:26

anybody who would. It just comes from the

33:28

foundation that I assume everybody is always

33:30

cheating and all sports and do

33:32

not

33:32

do not give anybody

33:34

grief for cheating nor

33:36

assume anybody is innocent. I assume

33:39

everybody is guilty. And so,

33:41

therefore, I have one list, and John Jones is at

33:43

the very top of that list because of all the reasons

33:45

you mentioned. Yeah.

33:47

I mean, I don't and and and look, it's a

33:50

big freaking deal. Not only is it a big deal

33:52

that he's coming back? If he was coming back to

33:54

fight any light heavyweight, it would be a big deal. He's

33:56

coming back to fight at heavyweight, which

33:58

is something that we have been saying for

34:00

a long time that we wanted to see him do. Right?

34:02

We felt like he accomplished everything that he could

34:04

accomplish at 205, It felt like

34:06

he was lacking motivation, felt like he was maybe

34:08

fighting down a little bit to the competition, felt

34:10

like he wasn't putting out the best version of

34:12

himself. And by the way, that could

34:14

just be you know, father time. Right? You get older, you slow

34:16

down. But I think we all want to see him

34:18

just once at least

34:20

test himself. You know, GSP

34:22

did it. That was cool. Anderson did

34:24

it. That was cool. We've seen DJ

34:26

fight. Most, you know, at thirty

34:28

five. Most of the best have at least tested

34:30

the waters. I know there's some exceptions to

34:32

those to those rules, like,

34:34

you know, the hubbebs of the world never went

34:36

up, but De obviously didn't have

34:38

the longevity. He had the winning streak.

34:40

He had the incredible record, but not the

34:42

longevity. At this point, I think we had all seen the

34:44

205 story. We wanted to see a new

34:46

story. And That's what makes us

34:48

so exciting. He's fighting a young, hungry, incredibly

34:50

talented fighter, someone who is

34:52

very much in his prime.

34:55

So let's see. This is a big deal De a big shot

34:58

in the arm, I think, to the UFC, especially if De finds

35:00

success. Right? If he if he wins

35:02

belt and goes on another run amazingly. It's gonna tough at heavyweight.

35:04

This is not gonna be easy. I mean,

35:06

that's a gigantic story. Ryan follows up

35:10

with Hello, Ariel. A long time follower, first time with a question to ask. I'm curious where

35:12

you think John Jones aligns on the pound pound list if

35:14

he wins his heavyweight debut. As a

35:18

kicker, Hoya will the result of the ISOM Volcanovsky fight effect John Jones'

35:20

pound for pound ranking? Thanks to keep up the great

35:22

work. Yeah. I mean, if

35:26

if Volcanoes Oh, I have him number one

35:28

now. If if De it's like a no brainer. If Islam wins,

35:30

yeah, there's a strong case to me. Right now,

35:32

I have it vogue, Leon.

35:35

Islam because I think Lian has

35:38

obviously fought some tougher guys as of late and then you

35:40

beat Kumar who was number one, that

35:42

should put you in prime position. It's all

35:44

very debatable. If

35:46

Islam wins, you can make up even stronger

35:48

case for him being two or

35:49

one. And if John wins,

35:52

yeah, I think You're great. If John

35:54

wins, where do you put him? You put him back at

35:56

one? No. I

35:56

don't think you put him at one, but I

35:59

think you ranked him. I think you should

36:01

have been there. I think the thing with pound for

36:03

pound is there needs to some combination of resume and who

36:06

you think will win in a fight. If like,

36:10

again, we've talked about this before.

36:12

It's like an MVP debate. Right? Everybody has their own criteria. Is it

36:14

the best resume? Is it the quote unquote

36:17

best fighter award? Is

36:19

it who, if all things were equal, if size were

36:22

no factor, who would win, which is the

36:24

original kind of conception of pound for pound.

36:26

Right? If weight was equal, who

36:28

would be the most skilled and who would win. I think ultimately most

36:30

people arrive at some kind of combination of

36:32

those things. But, yes, I

36:34

think you'd have to have them in there. When you jump to

36:36

number one, I think

36:38

it'd be hard, I think because of the lack of activity. But I will

36:40

say, I think this is all high

36:42

risk, high reward for John Jones in terms

36:44

of legacy. If he

36:46

loses, he's only damaging his

36:48

legacy as -- Mhmm. --

36:50

somebody who was on De streak. I think the streak means a

36:52

lot to his legacy. I think

36:54

there are a lot of holes you can kind of poke in his

36:56

resume based on recent

36:58

fights and positive tests as you pointed

37:00

to where

37:02

The upside here though is if he wins, if he all of a sudden becomes

37:04

a legitimate top ranked heavyweight, maybe

37:06

even the champion, it's gonna

37:09

be he's just distancing

37:11

himself from everybody even further. In my opinion, he's already the

37:13

the the goat, but he's

37:15

distancing himself even

37:18

further. So The legacy

37:20

conversation, I think, is the one that has more effect.

37:22

Will he get ranked pound for pound? I don't think

37:24

there's a doubt, but I don't know if he'll be number

37:26

one. I think most

37:26

people will need to see more. Yeah, maybe it

37:29

went over steeper afterwards. But he I mean, hard to argue

37:31

with top five. You

37:33

know? I would like

37:35

to see it. So let's see what happens March

37:37

fourth. Dominic. Hello, Ariel. I really want to hear

37:40

your thoughts on Monday night's thirty oh,

37:42

Monday night De. Thirty

37:44

year celebration episode. I thought it was

37:46

awesome from start to finish when undertaker came out.

37:48

The inner child in me came out to I was

37:50

so excited. Can we hear your thoughts? Yes.

37:52

Undertaker came out to the

37:54

American badass. Or as the

37:56

American badass, I should say, with the American badass

37:58

song. Is that song called American

38:00

badass? I am. Oh, America. Yeah. I guess

38:02

it is. That was cool. Even cooler was the little

38:04

interaction between him and Bray

38:06

Wyatt, where he whispered something, kinda felt

38:08

like the passing of the torch, so

38:10

to speak. It

38:12

was you know, my main issue with

38:14

raw is I just find it too long. Three hours

38:16

is just too long. Three hours every week is too

38:18

long, in my opinion. I I wish they would go

38:21

back to two hours. Number one. Number

38:26

two, I mean, Sami Zane is the best thing

38:28

in pro wrestling

38:30

right now. And it's not even close. He is number one, pound for pound, San

38:32

Jose and MGF is up

38:34

there as one

38:36

b or you know,

38:38

two. But the stuff was Sam Usain and can't wait

38:40

to see how it plays out with the rumble. And

38:42

then leading into Montreal, Elimination Chamber,

38:44

then of course WrestleMania. trial

38:46

Sami's reign was great. I mean, he is

38:48

just such an incredible

38:50

performer. It's really amazing

38:52

to watch him do his

38:54

thing and everyone with the blood

38:56

I mean Paul Hayman Incredibles, Roman Incredibles. Usos Incredibles Solo was great.

38:58

So that was all great. Cool

39:00

seeing some of the legends. I

39:05

wish that, you know, I was listening to cheap heat podcasts that I

39:07

enjoyed very much. The Ringer's

39:10

wrestling show,

39:12

one of their wrestling shows. And they were talking about how, like, having a COVID in

39:14

there is great, but would it

39:16

have been better if he could

39:19

rub elbows with a Roman, something,

39:22

backstage, something. And I I agree with

39:24

that. Maybe using those guys in a bit of a

39:26

better way, but they did that with

39:28

De and Imperial. I thought

39:30

it was fine. It was fun. It was fun.

39:32

It was different. It felt big. It felt special.

39:34

Three hours every week, fifty

39:36

two weeks. Hard to feel special all the

39:38

time, and I thought it felt big and

39:40

special. So, yeah, I was I was

39:42

down and rumbles my favorite pay per

39:44

view of the year by far. So no

39:47

real complaints. I know everyone loves to bellyache

39:49

all the time. You know, do I think

39:51

the product is as hot as

39:54

I thought back when I did that

39:56

promo, like, you're kidding yourself. No.

39:58

No. I don't think so. I think it's cooled

40:00

off a little bit. The

40:03

bright white thing, I wanna see how it plays out. I'm very curious to

40:05

see what they do with mania because I think it's very much

40:08

up in the air. There's no real

40:10

clear path The Brock how many times we're gonna see Brock

40:12

show up and mess with with Bobby

40:14

Lache. I feel like I've seen this now a thousand

40:16

times. So

40:20

Solid. Am I going nuts?

40:22

No. Is it in a good spot for

40:24

rumble? Yeah. Hopefully, we'll

40:26

get some surprises. Cody comes back,

40:28

you know. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yaron.

40:30

Ariel, hi. Watching you ten seven

40:32

Sean Stryker last week regarding your MMA

40:36

credential straight off the cuff and in real time was as usual

40:38

just fantastic content. An

40:40

absolutely bloody

40:42

chef's kiss Perfect. But

40:44

one thing, old skid marks Sean, his

40:46

words, is not mine, got me thinking, he

40:48

alluded to the voice at the bar watching people

40:50

get knocked out. Like they are the only people watching MMA

40:53

or who can be the only true

40:55

MMA fans, obviously not true. And I'm wondering how

40:57

close he actually is or isn't to the mark in

40:59

terms of his assessment of MMA fans.

41:01

As a homogeneous group. So my question

41:03

is this. How much do we need to reassess

41:05

our ideas of who the typical MMA

41:08

fan is? I'm sure the overall fan base is more diverse, mainly as function

41:10

of MMA being such a global sport.

41:12

But how much more so do you think?

41:15

Are there any figures or studies of MMA De that

41:18

may confirm or deny that theory? For the

41:20

most part, that we are just a bunch of

41:22

skidmarks shots. Really hope we aren't all the best to and

41:24

yours year on I mean, look,

41:26

you go online, it's a vocal minority.

41:28

I have met all kinds of people

41:30

from all walks of life for

41:32

MMA fans. I'm not even a sports bar sports

41:34

watcher. Like, if the Knicks or or

41:36

Bills aren't in a big game, I'm not going to a

41:38

sports bar to watch that. I I've just

41:40

never been

41:42

that guy. Yeah, he's right to a degree. I'm not sitting at the bar with the

41:44

boys, watching people get knocked

41:46

out. But I am watching MMA

41:48

a lot and I have been

41:50

watching it since he was in his

41:52

father's nutsack. Alright? And I'm sorry for the

41:54

visual, but it's just the truth. And so, like,

41:56

this idea that just because I

41:58

don't, you know, sit around, you

42:00

know, playing with guns and calling

42:02

people's names and people

42:04

names and and and calling them betas and this and

42:06

that and and

42:08

waxing the thing about the Sean Strickland interview, I just wanna say, I

42:10

was approached to have Sean Strickland

42:12

on. Last time he was on, I thought it was a

42:14

interesting conversation. But let's

42:16

be honest, bit of a wild

42:18

card and likes to go off on these

42:20

tangents that it's like, Yo,

42:22

man, we're not asking for your take on life. We're

42:24

not asking for your take

42:26

on society. You know, great fighter, but I don't need your

42:28

take on everything going

42:30

on. They approached me. I

42:32

said, yes, but I switchedly said, not

42:34

interested in his take on politics, life,

42:36

this that, like, let's keep it to you

42:38

know, I'm always happy to go off you

42:42

know, off script and whatnot to a

42:44

degree. But let's, you know,

42:46

keep it some,

42:48

you know, somewhere close to the the fairway. Right?

42:50

Isn't that the term? So obviously,

42:52

that didn't happen off the bat.

42:54

My theory on that

42:56

is, I think he actually gets

42:58

uncomfortable in interviews and in media

43:00

settings. And so he tries to hit you with the

43:02

jab first before you can hit him with the

43:04

jab, which is just a quest So he

43:06

tries to quickly start

43:08

talking about you or ask you questions

43:10

to avoid having to

43:12

answer questions. I think that's a

43:14

classic move and I think that that is what he's doing

43:16

and he tries to be outlandish, that we

43:18

focus on the outlandish comments and

43:20

not ask him, In reality, I wasn't want to you know, like, I didn't have a want ask

43:22

him anything controversial or outlandish. She

43:24

just came off a win, which was impressive, short

43:26

notice against a really good fighter.

43:30

But, you know, some people

43:32

might say, like, how can you let him talk about

43:34

this or that? I mean, it's just it's just

43:38

gross and and unnecessary, it

43:40

would affect me more if I respected

43:42

the source. I don't really care

43:44

what Sean Strickland thinks about me

43:48

or my life or my or anything like that. So it's

43:50

like I laugh it off, like it's nothing,

43:52

like it's a fart in the wind.

43:55

But, you he going on and on and on. And then you're

43:58

here on my show after we

44:00

just did three straight

44:02

days and, like, twelve

44:04

hours or so of content, you're gonna say that

44:06

I don't like MMA or that I'm a fit. Like,

44:08

get the fuck out of here. Get out of here,

44:10

man. I

44:12

mean, really, get out of here.

44:14

So that was that. But it

44:16

is important to note, especially in,

44:18

like, Dylan one two, like, I'm

44:21

I'm not reaching out to these guys. Like, you know, I

44:23

think some of you think that I'm there on on

44:25

my knees, begging these guys to come on.

44:28

Like, you know, people are asking us. And

44:30

I'm down for a fun time.

44:32

Like, De you wanna get weird,

44:34

cookie, crazy, cool, but there

44:36

has to be some sort of

44:38

line. And, I mean, I think he

44:40

crossed it. Big time,

44:42

not that I cared, but it was a nice

44:44

little ten seven on the way out and God

44:46

bless and good luck. Cooper, hey

44:48

Ariel, has there ever been an

44:50

update on Hamzah Jamayah a few months

44:53

ago, it seemed that the Kobe coming to fight

44:55

was trending towards happening, and it feels like

44:57

all of that has died down. Seems to be

44:59

bulking up. Is he trending towards eighty five? It's been a while since he fought, and I'm sure

45:01

both him and the UFC would like to have a fight

45:03

scheduled. So what's the hold

45:06

I don't know, to be honest.

45:09

I'd personally like to

45:11

see him give seventy One

45:14

more crack. One more

45:16

crack. You know, he missed wait big

45:18

time, but, you know, one more crack. Let's see

45:20

what happens. Have him get that

45:22

one fight and have him fight the winner of Mooseman

45:24

Edwards. So my perfect

45:26

world, he fights either

45:28

Balal or Colby one

45:31

more time, And if he has trouble with seventy going

45:33

into that fight, okay, then we have

45:35

to reassess. But I would like to see him

45:37

one more cap. Right now, one

45:40

more crack. Right now, no real update on

45:43

what he's doing or when he might

45:45

be booked. There was some talk of

45:47

London not hearing that anymore. So

45:51

let's see. Excuse

45:53

me. Thomas. Hello,

45:56

Ariel. Quick football comment and

45:58

then an MMA question as someone who goes to

46:00

school only an hour from Cincinnati and is a

46:02

cult fan. I couldn't

46:04

agree more.

46:06

Wow, Thomas. With your take on the bangles to open up the show on Monday. Wow.

46:08

How about this timing, guys? I

46:10

have noticed many so called

46:12

bangles fans pop up in the

46:14

last two years. Oh, yeah. I mean, let's not get

46:16

started on the one in fifteen Marvin Lewis

46:18

era. I don't understand the hudai Chan.

46:20

When before last year, they had since

46:22

nineteen ninety. Could you imagine, I can't even

46:24

believe you push back on this GC. They hadn't

46:26

want to play off games since nineteen ninety and

46:28

they're walking around saying, who day? I

46:31

mean, you'd think that they are

46:33

undefeated, undisputed. I also don't understand

46:35

the narrative that they are being discounted.

46:37

I mean, it's it's fake and they're

46:39

trying to create chip on the shoulder, listen, whatever

46:41

works. And by the way, I I love Joe Burrell. He's great.

46:43

I mean, how do you hate that guy? That one clip

46:45

of him throwing the ball

46:48

on twirling

46:49

but he's not doing this nonsense. It's it's all the

46:51

other guys. Onto Miami Dadeau. I

46:54

do think he started the the

46:56

refund thing. No. He didn't start

46:58

it. He said it in the walk off interview.

47:00

Yeah. After weeks of them

47:02

crying about this, I mean,

47:04

come on. And it was, like, A1I

47:06

was watching that interview with -- Yeah. -- with the three phones, baby. Okay.

47:08

Yeah. After weeks

47:09

of them being, like, Oh,

47:11

they booked it. Neutral sunlight. Blah. Blah. Blah.

47:14

Blah. Ridiculous. Ignoring

47:16

the fact that we lost out on a chance to be the

47:18

number one seed, we could have been playing the sad sack jaguars.

47:21

At Hoya. You don't think we win that

47:23

game? Come on. Onto my MMA

47:26

question with Habib announcing he won't be in Islam's

47:28

corner in Perth. By the way, big

47:30

announcement. Right? And Islam confirmed

47:32

it. That's a pretty big deal. Didn't

47:34

we debate this whether or not he would be in

47:36

his court? I

47:38

was I was laughed at and mocked and called the crazy

47:40

person for even suggesting that,

47:42

wait, why who? Not by us?

47:46

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Get out of it. You didn't mock you or mocking you when

47:48

you were

47:48

talking about them. I said just this, and

47:51

it was just this is

47:54

crazy. I suggested this and it was

47:55

like, what? No, dude. The question was

47:58

literally good. Will he even be in

48:00

the arena?

48:02

I'm the only one that he'd be in the arena I was wrong. Jobo

48:05

said no. Yeah. So

48:07

aren't I right?

48:10

I didn't think he was coming. Didn't I say that? I thought

48:12

he'd convinced

48:13

you. I thought

48:13

he'd be there. Yeah. I thought I convinced both of you.

48:15

Then you then

48:16

you switched your tune. No. I never switched

48:18

mine.

48:19

I I thought he would be there, honestly. No. I'm

48:22

talking about the Alwani. Alwani said, this is

48:24

crazy. No. I said

48:26

you stated Steve's a man of his word. He's a man of his Alright?

48:28

Anyway, I did say that. You're

48:30

right. He's not gonna be in the corner.

48:34

Big of an impact do you think this will have

48:36

on the fight as well as the fight line? Has the line

48:38

moved since that was revealed?

48:42

No. Who is the

48:43

favorite, by

48:43

the way? Islam, big time. Big. Big. Like, it's

48:45

three fifty. Thank you

48:47

for everything you do. For, like,

48:49

plus two eighty. Wow. You're an

48:51

inspiration bupa Helwani. I don't think

48:54

it'll be that big of an

48:56

impact. Right? By the

48:58

way, he's on his corner. I'm sure he's still

49:00

coaching him to some degree. And by the way, like

49:02

Islam, I'm not saying Islam is a

49:04

Finnish product. But he's damn near

49:06

close to a finished product like he is who he

49:08

is and he's pretty damn amazing

49:10

and pretty damn

49:11

dominant. At this point, the ones

49:13

who are suffering more are the younger guys. Right? Like an oocement or manga made

49:15

off will suffer more if suffer is

49:17

even the word. We'll

49:20

miss out on him being there. An

49:23

Omar, or some guy that we

49:25

don't even know. Right? So

49:28

that's that's my you guys agree with that. Like,

49:30

a guy like Islam is already at the top of the

49:32

mountain. It's it's the complete

49:34

rate, but it's not

49:35

as bad. Completely agree. I think also just, you know,

49:38

Abdulmana, Havi, they created a

49:40

culture that, you know, they just

49:42

continue to passed

49:44

down. So I don't think it's necessarily a thing where, like, all of

49:46

a sudden, we're gonna be looking at a different Islam because of

49:48

this. I just think, yeah, to your point, it it's

49:50

gonna it's gonna affect the ones where let's

49:54

finish more raw products than

49:56

ASAM. I wouldn't expect it to affect them

49:58

much, to be honest. Yeah. I agree.

50:02

But, you know, it's an interesting story. He still

50:04

got Javier there and the rest of the crew,

50:06

so it's an interesting

50:08

story and a nice

50:10

little wrinkle But I don't think

50:12

it hurts him tremendously, and I don't think it

50:14

affects the line or anything like that.

50:16

Colton. Hey, Ariel. Do you think the winner of

50:18

Volkyslam determines who's the number

50:20

one contender? Folk Porié. Wait. What do you mean number one good

50:22

dinner? Folk Porié might be too

50:24

good to pass up and islam Darish should be

50:26

incredible too. I think like many

50:28

that Darish should be the guy no

50:30

matter what, but we know that's not how it

50:32

always works

50:32

out. What are your thoughts? I mean,

50:34

there's just so much that

50:37

needs to happen. Right? If Volk wins, does he go back to forty

50:39

five? Does he relinquish that? Well, you know,

50:41

if he does go back

50:43

to forty five, that's

50:45

gonna be more time for the

50:47

weight class to sort

50:52

itself out. Daurij is obviously in the mix, Porié is

50:54

obviously back in the mix, Gucci

50:56

Faziev in the mix,

50:58

so there's a lot

51:00

of questions. If Islam

51:02

wins, again, Darish

51:04

Darish might even get the shot at this

51:06

point, the fight's in like three weeks.

51:08

Might as well wait. Right? So I think

51:11

there's a lot that needs to be figured

51:13

out. And if and by the

51:15

way, if if Voquintz, maybe

51:17

they do rematching it's a great who

51:19

knows. But if Voalte wins, I think we go in a different direction, like, there's a bunch of

51:21

different permutations. And then if

51:24

there's some wins, it's also in a bit of a

51:26

different direction.

51:28

Can't wait for it though. King Tyler. Hello, REL

51:31

and crew. He's spelled it

51:33

r, letter r, letter e, letter

51:35

l. Pretty cool. I

51:38

feel the push for double chance, poor ton of light heavyweight,

51:40

delicate lightweight, Valentina, Bandamweight, John, and

51:42

Flyweight may indirectly create more title vacancies.

51:44

By the way, very strong chance

51:48

that except for Vogue

51:50

obviously none of those happen. So let's not get too

51:52

crazy. I

51:54

digress. Simultaneous double

51:56

champs of all unceremoniously vacated, forfeited,

51:58

or lost their lower weight belts. Historically,

52:00

by the way, I've never really been in favor

52:02

of it because I like dominant champs. And I

52:04

like to see divisions moving and evolving as to being

52:06

held up. DC vacated light

52:09

heavy to focus on heavy.

52:11

Connor was strips, Pluto On

52:14

and on it goes. Nuna is the only one to have fought in the lower weight

52:16

class after winning the second current belt, but

52:18

she also lost it after gassing out of the first

52:20

round after fighting up for the

52:22

previous two years props to her for definitively earning it back. Do

52:25

you and the crew think it is just too

52:27

difficult to manage two weights and

52:29

compete actively at a world championship level. PS, I

52:31

can't believe how much we felt in his absence from

52:33

two eighty three, but it really hurt the fighters in

52:35

the company more than him. It really

52:38

feels like the show can't go on without him.

52:40

I'm not sure, but I feel like our old

52:42

friend, King Tyler, is being sarcastic here.

52:44

Thank you for standing up for what's right. You

52:46

notice that they have someone else now

52:48

being trotted out to talk about the the

52:50

slap Duffee. That's

52:54

pretty interesting. Do

52:56

you remember did you guys remember that picture of Dana holding

52:58

up the the tombstone with all the

53:01

with all the promotions that,

53:03

you know, they beat

53:05

I think it was a friction, ALLEX C. Was strike force

53:08

there? IFL. Yeah. I seem to

53:10

recall. I want do you think you'll hold it up,

53:12

like, with, like, Slap,

53:16

ultimate surfer. Ultimate surfer

53:18

the fighters, Zoopa

53:22

boxing per I don't know. Do you think I don't know.

53:24

I wonder.

53:26

It is tough to go up and down.

53:28

It is. Not only in MMA, but in boxing

53:31

too. It is tough. So

53:33

that's one of the many reasons why.

53:35

But also, they need title fights and they need to keep

53:37

the train rolling along. And

53:40

so I think that's why

53:42

they try to avoid it as much as possible. But

53:44

yes, I do think it is tough

53:46

and that's probably one of the many reasons

53:48

why they They only do

53:50

it when it really, really, really makes sense. At

53:52

least these days, it feels like. And and I I

53:54

wouldn't suggest Peloton go

53:56

up yet. Obviously, I'd love to

53:58

see Valentina. It helps when

54:00

there's not a lot going on in the respective

54:02

way classes.

54:04

Spenser. Not my good friend, Spencer. This is

54:07

Spencer Curtis and Ami. Ariel, there's no doubt

54:09

you're the go to domain journalism.

54:12

Thanks. However, I think there is title

54:14

that should be yours, which may even

54:16

be more prestigious. How about this guys?

54:18

Often, when I watch you or eight,

54:20

I get dazzled by your hands.

54:22

And the enhancement they give to your words. What can the goat of hand gestures

54:25

share with us about the superior way

54:27

of speaking? And when did you

54:29

pick up this talent Hoya does

54:31

it play out in your personal conversations? And how can

54:33

one learn to use their hands as efficiently

54:35

and effectively as you, Spencer

54:38

from Japan?

54:40

Hello, Spencer. So

54:42

early on in my career,

54:44

I was actually told to stop using my hands.

54:46

I use it too much. I was actually told to put

54:48

my hands in my pocket. Could you believe that? I

54:50

was also told to change my last name, guys. They told me to go with a

54:53

different last name. We brainstormed for

54:55

a cup of

54:57

coffee. I was For

54:59

a cup of coffee,

55:01

I was Ariel Jacobs. Shut up.

55:03

This is your series. This is a real

55:05

story. I never actually did it. Hate you.

55:07

We we we settle because my middle name is Jacob,

55:09

and we I was like, alright. What about Jay

55:11

Ariel Jacob? Ariel Jacob, we settled on it.

55:14

It lasted ten minutes, but it

55:16

was consideration put into this to

55:18

becoming air. It was like a lunch conversation. Gosh. Yeah. I'm

55:20

saying, like, in your brain where you, like,

55:24

There's a Jacob's not bad. Like, I kinda -- No. -- hated it. Didn't go

55:26

right. Alright. Alright. I was That's the

55:28

name we settled on. One of the great

55:32

what ifs. I've used my hands a lot, always have

55:34

personal life, professional, kid,

55:36

adult. Some people say it's

55:38

like an ethnic thing. I don't know.

55:41

I'm I'm very expressive. I feel like

55:43

it helps. It helps.

55:46

It comes across different

55:48

as it helps. Right? This feels big. It

55:51

feels grandiose. You are connected to it. You are inspired

55:53

by it. So I don't know. It's just one of those

55:55

things. But, yes, I have

55:57

been told I it and there was a period where I was told

55:59

I would do it too much and I should stop

56:01

doing it.

56:04

Guess what? Not

56:06

happening. Sam, hi Ariel.

56:08

Last week, you said you would want to see Sage

56:10

Northcott on the one Denver card, and a few

56:12

days later it

56:14

was announced. Coincidence, let's test it out. Please say the

56:16

following. I, Ariahawani,

56:18

want to see rotang versus

56:21

super, like, for the belt, they are arguably the two best

56:23

mowithai fighters on the planet right now, seriously in the crew.

56:25

Here's the thing, Sam, that you need to

56:28

know. Very

56:30

few things. Set on the show are a coincidence when they come to

56:32

fruition. Right? Maybe we hear

56:34

things. Maybe it's with some knowledge. Maybe it's

56:36

an educated

56:38

guess. But it's it's very, very rarely

56:40

a coincidence. You catch my I

56:42

did this recently with something else. What did

56:44

I do? I wanna see something and

56:48

that it came to fruition. I don't remember.

56:50

But, yes, good to see Sage back. We're gonna

56:52

have him on the show today. No soup for

56:56

you. Highlights, You say ask anything, so here's one. As

56:58

always, I keep it one hundred. Hope

57:00

moderator Lewis doesn't skip this one because it's

57:02

not a softball.

57:04

Oh, baby. What you make of DC promoting the slap leak? How is he not

57:06

embarrassed? Oh, this is a good one. So

57:08

there was a video of DC. I

57:10

think it came out last Wednesday when they were

57:12

going really

57:14

hard with the famous people trying

57:16

to, you know, promote it if you

57:18

wanna call

57:20

it that. What I had heard was, you

57:22

know, Dana was reaching out to a lot of people

57:24

to get the word out, you know, famous friends and

57:26

whatnot. And I saw DC

57:28

getting a lot of shit for it. And

57:30

guess what? I even gave him shit

57:32

for it. Here's the thing. As you could tell, he was already

57:34

in Brazil when that video came out.

57:37

De clearly in the De, he's

57:39

not in Brazil, so he was at the taping. The the stuff that

57:41

you're seeing now was taped several months ago.

57:43

He was there. I think it was around the fight

57:45

week when they did it. So

57:47

he was there and he watched it and they filmed him.

57:49

He didn't know, like,

57:52

that this would come out after Dana White

57:54

sit in. Like, I saw some dare was taped months

57:56

ago. So I do think it is important to

57:59

say that and to you

58:02

know, to say that on on his behalf. It was it was

58:04

way before any of the data stuff came

58:06

out. Is DC a company De?

58:09

Yeah. Of course. Always been a company

58:11

guy, and that's why the company loves him. But, you

58:14

know, they talked about the Dana thing on his

58:16

show and and all that stuff. He was there.

58:18

They asked

58:20

for twenty seconds. I didn't really think that much of it, if I'm being

58:22

honest. It's the ones who were doing it

58:24

after the fact that are worse.

58:27

But if you look at the clip, he clearly says, I

58:29

think he says, like, I just watched it or something

58:31

like that. So it's well before. Now,

58:33

does that completely Defend them. No. It's not, you

58:35

know, it's not great theater, it's not

58:38

sport, it's it's bottom

58:40

of the, you know, of

58:43

the barrel stuff. It's low I mean, I can't say

58:45

enough about how bad it

58:48

is. He's there. He works for

58:50

the US see. Hey, DC

58:52

gives a couple words. Most

58:54

people I think in his position would do

58:56

that. So now if it was after the

58:58

fact, you know, if this is

59:00

being taped after the

59:04

incident? Way worse, but it wasn't. So important to

59:06

note that. I still

59:08

maintain, by the way, like, I don't

59:10

even this is a poor reflection on Dana, the

59:12

UFC, whatever. I still maintain the ones who

59:14

look the worst in all of this

59:16

are the commissions. particular,

59:18

Nevada, the officials, both

59:20

the ones working for Nevada

59:22

and the UFC, who are

59:24

attaching themselves to this. Because

59:27

to De, you're losing a lot of credibility, if

59:29

not all of it, if you are saying that

59:31

this is something that

59:34

is worthy of your time that you wanna be a part of anything like

59:36

that. Because again, if the UFC

59:38

of Zufo wasn't involved, there's no chance

59:41

Nevada sanctioning it. And I don't care. You

59:44

you're gonna sit here and tell me, oh, it's because

59:46

they're involved. We feel better about it. It's

59:48

safer, Helwani. You

59:50

don't sanction BKFC. You sanction this. Explain

59:52

yourself. You can't using MMA referees and

59:55

MMA officials ridiculous. The whole

59:57

thing is ridiculous. They don't look like athletes. They

59:59

don't behave like

1:00:02

athletes. They don't get paid like athletes. I mean,

1:00:04

what what are we talking about here? And

1:00:06

the rating was abysmal. The

1:00:08

rating will most likely go down

1:00:11

you see that it's not being promoted as much

1:00:14

on AWC Dana's

1:00:16

name, not being attached to it as much.

1:00:19

I I don't know who sits there.

1:00:21

Here's the thing. Slap is something you

1:00:23

go. You open your phone. You see

1:00:25

it for ten seconds. You swipe. You go to

1:00:27

the next thing. It's not a show. It's not a league. It

1:00:29

comes across as a bunch of older out

1:00:31

of touch guys. Saw

1:00:33

this on Instagram realer TikTok and were like, oh, let's

1:00:36

make this into the thing and they're using the same playbook

1:00:38

that they used fifteen years ago with the ultimate

1:00:40

fighter and they're trying to do it all over again. It

1:00:42

ain't gonna work There's no appetite

1:00:44

for it. It should have just been an online

1:00:46

thing, to be honest, and leave it at

1:00:48

that. But, hey,

1:00:50

you know, they've got resources and money and and it's worth

1:00:52

taking a stab, I guess, to try to own

1:00:54

another sport, but this will not last. Like,

1:00:56

everyone could calm down. It's not

1:00:58

gonna last. You

1:01:00

know, Duffee last the season great? Does it come back? I

1:01:02

mean, maybe they'll convince someone to bring it back, but this

1:01:04

is not a thing. So I don't think everyone has to

1:01:06

be worried about it. We should be worried about

1:01:09

are are, you know, the repercussions to these

1:01:11

human beings that are being slapped with

1:01:13

no defense involved. Like, explain that

1:01:16

to me Nevada. How could you be okay

1:01:18

with this? There's no

1:01:20

defense involved. The whole point of

1:01:22

this whole fight game is to hit and not get

1:01:24

hit. That's the whole

1:01:26

point. You're standing there. And

1:01:28

save the the, oh, we're catching them, we're doing

1:01:30

stop it. It's it's a

1:01:32

human car crash. That's what we're watching.

1:01:35

Low rent, And yeah, I agree with Luke Rockhold.

1:01:38

It being associated with the UFC

1:01:40

in any way, the cream of the crop, the number

1:01:43

one MMA promotion on the planet, on

1:01:45

the social feeds on the bra. Like, all of

1:01:47

that is is

1:01:50

indefensible. Lloyd, Good

1:01:53

day, Ariel. What do you make up Eric Spicley's claim? Oh, how

1:01:55

about this? He was and by the way, I don't read the

1:01:57

questions before, so I apologize if sometimes

1:02:00

I'm overlapping. He was offered

1:02:02

the chance to take part in the power slap. And him claiming the pay was k

1:02:04

and two k. How about that? Two

1:02:06

k and two k to get slapped?

1:02:10

I mean, two k for that. I don't

1:02:12

even know how you win the damn thing. The

1:02:14

power slap thing is such a bonfire and

1:02:16

it's really only good now

1:02:19

for ten to fifteen second clips of people

1:02:21

giving each other brain damage. Big love from sleepy,

1:02:24

Suffolk, England,

1:02:26

Lloyd, Duffee.

1:02:30

I think real sports did a story on on on slap, and I I think

1:02:32

that was fascinating. I think it was real sports that

1:02:34

did it. Because, like, who are these people? Right? Why

1:02:36

would you sign up for this? And

1:02:39

why is it so popular in Eastern Europe? And so that to me is

1:02:41

interesting. Like a new story on this, an investigation on

1:02:43

this interesting, but to

1:02:46

try to make this into league

1:02:48

or anything like that is redoculous.

1:02:50

And two k is even crazier.

1:02:53

Quick fire once, attack,

1:02:56

aerial, Hoya you're well. Any update on any

1:02:58

Alvarez? Yes. I think we'll get one soon. He's out there. He's

1:03:00

talking some potential De.

1:03:04

I think we'll get one in the next month or two. Stay tuned. Raiden, hello and

1:03:06

good day Ariel. What are your thoughts of Julian opinion

1:03:08

or logic on a trilogy fight with Amanda? Don't

1:03:12

hate it. Same way I never hated the

1:03:14

idea of Matt Serif fighting GSP for a third time. Don't hate it. They probably

1:03:16

go with Aldana, someone fresh, get

1:03:18

a win, you're right back in there.

1:03:21

There aren't a lot of options at thirty five.

1:03:23

Patrick, favorite segment of the week. Two quick

1:03:25

questions. Ariel, who can we expect as the

1:03:27

next guest for aerial meats for b t

1:03:29

sport, all baby. Two big ones. Scheduled for this week in San

1:03:32

Antonio stay tuned. Two

1:03:34

gigantic ones. One even

1:03:36

mentioned earlier today on the program. Stay

1:03:38

tuned, actually both. GC. How

1:03:40

about some picks for the NFC slash

1:03:42

AFC championship

1:03:43

game? Hit us. Let's go

1:03:48

Chiefs, and we'll go with niners

1:03:50

upselling the Eagles. Thank you. I

1:03:51

I would like to think the Chiefs pick was a

1:03:53

show of solidarity.

1:03:54

Yep. Mhmm. It all really depends on patchy

1:03:56

bottoms. Niners. Wow. That

1:03:59

is a bold one.

1:04:02

Brack party. I'm

1:04:04

gonna go with the Eagles Chiefs. Now that's with

1:04:06

my heart. I think there's a very good chance the bangles

1:04:08

beat the Chiefs. I feel Eagles are

1:04:10

chewing. Chewing and really. Yeah.

1:04:13

I mean, Nighters can

1:04:14

hardly beat the cowboys. Talk about

1:04:17

a sad sack franchise. Did

1:04:19

you by the way see that

1:04:21

scene? It's pretty good. Did we oh, we I

1:04:23

I sent it to you guys the the cowboys Twitter account,

1:04:26

completely cropping all over that press cut. What was up

1:04:28

with that? Yeah. It was, like, I

1:04:30

guess, it was, like, an article that a writer wrote.

1:04:32

Yeah. I know. But jeez Louise, like, they

1:04:34

highlighted this really mean sentence

1:04:36

about him. Never seen that

1:04:38

happen. Jake,

1:04:40

big fan. Quick hitter for mysterious

1:04:42

Frank. Can we please get the video

1:04:44

included with the audio on Spotify? Keep

1:04:47

up the great work. What De you say,

1:04:49

Frank? I mean, not really my

1:04:51

call, but if that's what we wanna

1:04:53

do, sure. I mean, This young man

1:04:55

seems to think it is your call.

1:04:57

Unfortunately, it's not. The deliverable AI

1:05:00

produces audio only. Alright. Not a

1:05:02

bad idea though. I don't hate it. We

1:05:04

used to have it on

1:05:06

iTunes before it was Apple Podcasts.

1:05:08

We used to have the video with the beat M

1:05:10

AR. Andrew from Alaska, hi

1:05:12

Ariel during the post PaperView Press

1:05:14

Conference. The reported attendance was only thirteen

1:05:16

thousand. While the venue has a capacity of eighteen

1:05:18

thousand, there was no mention of their sellout streak

1:05:20

is the sellout streak over for the

1:05:22

UFC. Thought it was over over the summer when we heard that

1:05:25

there were empty seats in San De, but I

1:05:27

don't know, I don't watch

1:05:29

it that closely. I never really thought. And to me, it

1:05:31

was sort of like the ninety three thousand at the Pontiac Silver Dome. Like,

1:05:34

it's a little bit of K FAB involved there, you

1:05:36

know. But,

1:05:38

yeah, Disappointing

1:05:40

crowd in Brazil was expecting a little

1:05:42

more, a little more oomph.

1:05:44

Manji, hi Ariel out

1:05:46

of GC, Eric, and you Who do

1:05:49

you think has the most down the middle view of the sport? In my opinion, it's New York

1:05:51

Rick. I feel like his opinions are void from

1:05:53

what he feels about a certain fight or

1:05:55

a situation, not saying you But

1:05:58

if we're talking about most down the middle, quote

1:06:00

unquote, I would give it to New York Rick.

1:06:02

Love the three of you bickering over parleys

1:06:04

like old men. Keep up the good work.

1:06:06

Can I say something by

1:06:08

the way? Is Nurekwik there? Naturally. There's

1:06:12

something going on here. I don't know

1:06:14

if you probably do notice this because I think

1:06:16

early on, like, there was a bit of a

1:06:17

chip. There's a massive babyface turn

1:06:20

happening right now involving you. Have you

1:06:22

noticed this? I have not. Oh,

1:06:24

yeah. I still get the same meat all the

1:06:26

time. That's been on the map. Is it You're breaking

1:06:28

news I mean, I've seen a lot of people be

1:06:30

like, essentially, what Manji is

1:06:32

saying here. The takes are

1:06:34

on point. They're down the middle. They're

1:06:36

void of any emotion or

1:06:38

bias or anything like that.

1:06:40

I feel and have

1:06:42

seen a lot less criticism,

1:06:44

Hoya, whatever you wanna call it, of you. I feel like

1:06:46

I'm mad not to say, like, GC still

1:06:48

top baby phase, people love them. I think Frank, people

1:06:50

love to hate

1:06:50

him. I mean, it's a perfect thing. See,

1:06:53

people love names. You

1:06:55

know? People love Frank. They love Frank.

1:06:57

They love Frank the most of anyone,

1:06:59

man.

1:06:59

Yeah. But I feel like I'm gonna De honest.

1:07:02

Oh, really? Alright. Alright. I

1:07:04

mean, I I appreciate this

1:07:07

person's comment. I agree with them, obviously, my level head to

1:07:09

take on their level head to take about my level

1:07:11

head to takes is that they're

1:07:14

correct. But I get

1:07:16

just as many trolls telling me I'm the

1:07:18

worst piece of human garbage that's ever lived.

1:07:20

So Really? I see it all.

1:07:22

Wow. It happens

1:07:23

all the time.

1:07:24

I've got very specific trolls. They really love

1:07:26

to put me in my place. It's it's it's

1:07:28

sweet actually that they think about me so much.

1:07:31

Well, no. No. See, don't don't even lean into this because

1:07:33

it's a real thing happening here. And for the

1:07:35

record, I mean, here's Maji backing

1:07:37

it up. I think so.

1:07:39

Thank you, Maji. Especially the no emotion thing. Yeah. Oh,

1:07:41

it's fair. My favorite is when, like, we get a big

1:07:43

guest, like, a real big exclusive, and we say, like, let's

1:07:46

go to your crew first take any shits all over them.

1:07:48

I

1:07:48

mean, that's We we have to address this

1:07:51

because you've been pushing this narrative. Let's

1:07:53

let's let's see here. This one's for you.

1:07:55

Manji, this one's for you. To say Francis and

1:07:57

Gahoo has one title defense is an objective fact. I mean,

1:07:59

that's not shitting on anybody. You were making the case

1:08:01

that he had the momentum of Connor McGregor who

1:08:03

was a double

1:08:06

champion. Unfortunately, that is not the case. That is not true. He does

1:08:08

not have the momentum. He is not a

1:08:10

long time, long tenure champion. He

1:08:12

has one title defense. Is

1:08:15

he the best heavy word on the planet? In my opinion, I think he is. Is he does he

1:08:17

have the world at his fingertips right now? In

1:08:19

my opinion, he does. But

1:08:22

we are not gonna pretend that he is in the same position that Connor MacGregor was

1:08:25

in. Now I mean, I think he's the one that

1:08:27

says but fair. Alright. Luke Rockhold.

1:08:29

Luke Rockhold. Oh, yeah.

1:08:31

It was Rockhold. Many many years of losses

1:08:33

and many many years of saying that he was moments away

1:08:36

from winning those fights

1:08:38

and not taking accountability for

1:08:40

them. I think Luke

1:08:42

Rockholt has a lot of interesting fights left in his career. I think there's a lot of opportunities out there that are outside the USC

1:08:47

for him. But there

1:08:49

needs to be an accountability for, like, just understanding where he is

1:08:51

in his career. I will say that you're

1:08:53

not shitting

1:08:56

on anybody.

1:08:57

Your Francis take propelled a heel turn of

1:08:59

of one try forecast. Yes. That was

1:09:01

legendary stuff

1:09:03

by Troy. Sure. Trey

1:09:06

Farquess, Superproducer Troy. He was

1:09:08

out to

1:09:09

say, Francis and Gondu was not that good.

1:09:11

That was not anything I ever said. He had

1:09:13

a right for that. Mad hate. Like, I was

1:09:15

scrolling through the replies. I was like,

1:09:17

wow. This is pretty realistic. Hey,

1:09:19

guys. By

1:09:20

the way, I just Frank, some

1:09:22

breaking issues. Hit us. I see

1:09:25

here, Alex Perda, riding to Jamal

1:09:27

Hill, I heard Pahasco's injured.

1:09:29

What about knocking me out?

1:09:31

Someone just sent me that in his comments. I'm

1:09:32

in. And I'll just say this, a

1:09:34

member of his team just sent me

1:09:36

a text saying, hey, can you ask

1:09:38

Jamal if you would fight cadetah? Let's

1:09:41

go. Something's going on. Let's You'd

1:09:43

rather see Pineda. You'd rather

1:09:45

see Pineda versus Jamal

1:09:48

Hill than Pineda

1:09:50

Is two or

1:09:51

4II wouldn't, but there's something that's making me think.

1:09:53

I mean,

1:09:54

just yesterday, we had an article

1:09:56

from the

1:09:59

Brazilian beast at MMA fighting where Alex was

1:10:01

essentially saying it's gonna be easier.

1:10:04

It's gonna be Robert

1:10:06

Whitaker. But something seems to be pulling him in the direction of

1:10:08

light heavyweight, so I am out of it. I'd be

1:10:10

I'd be all in it. There's a great deal

1:10:13

right now. There's a

1:10:15

great story, you know, him avenging Clover's

1:10:17

loss. Right? Yeah.

1:10:18

And being a devil

1:10:20

champion after five -- Yeah. --

1:10:22

sea fights. Legendary. I'm doubtful that UFC gets on board

1:10:24

with this though. That's the problem. Yeah. I just don't III

1:10:27

don't feel like you pulled the champion

1:10:29

who just captured the ballot no title defenses and go

1:10:32

put them up against the champion who just captured the

1:10:34

ballot with no title

1:10:34

defenses. It just doesn't feel like the

1:10:37

right time.

1:10:37

There was a period where it was, like, you know,

1:10:39

champions were moving up and down all over the place. You wanna double check? Yeah. You wanna

1:10:41

double check. It was the it was And now and

1:10:44

and I think they all tried to be,

1:10:46

like, alright. Enough of this crap. Let's Yes.

1:10:49

Hold everyone's horses here. Alright. So let's

1:10:51

see. Just a couple more left and then we'll be joined by the Oscar De

1:10:55

La Jolla. Hoya hey,

1:10:57

Ariel, does it ever truly

1:10:59

you when managers or promoters about journalism? Just

1:11:04

seeing tweets from people

1:11:06

like Ali and Josh Thompson. Wow. What a doo. And it cracks me up that you somehow find a way

1:11:09

to ruffle everyone's

1:11:12

feathers by interviewing fighters and covering

1:11:14

important

1:11:14

issues. Why? Josh Thompson talking shit? He's talking shit lately? Anyone

1:11:16

see that? Yeah. Or not.

1:11:18

I don't know. I don't I don't

1:11:22

haven't seen anything specific.

1:11:24

I have not. But I think I muted him a long

1:11:26

time ago, so it's kind of like into the void.

1:11:28

Anyway, I'm sure athletes

1:11:30

from other sports have their issues with journalists who cover them, but I can't help but feel that MMA is filled with very

1:11:33

sensitive individuals. You

1:11:36

don't say, thanks

1:11:38

for always putting out the best MMA

1:11:40

show out there, tough people, sensitive people. I

1:11:42

saw Ali's tweet about, you know, I wished

1:11:46

fighters would go on shows

1:11:48

hosted by fellow fighters and whatnot. I don't I

1:11:50

saw people say that that was a shot at

1:11:52

me. Maybe in his mind, it was a

1:11:54

shot at me. It's not like I'm out there saying no

1:11:56

one can talk to anyone else.

1:11:58

I mean, that would be kind of

1:12:01

silly. I would like to talk to people

1:12:03

if they don't wanna talk. All

1:12:05

good. I don't want them to just talk to us. They can talk to whomever

1:12:07

they want. So there's a different connection when you're

1:12:12

talking to a fellow athlete, a fellow

1:12:14

fighter, then you're talking to me. I would also argue that maybe I know how to do an

1:12:16

interview a little bit

1:12:18

different than, like, there's there's

1:12:21

different avenues, different lanes, different strokes, different folks. So I don't care. I don't

1:12:23

care. They can by the way, they can

1:12:26

they can in turn

1:12:28

say, oh, you tell

1:12:30

us, you know, how to run our career or how to manage like, you know, I'm

1:12:32

sitting here talking about promoting fights.

1:12:34

I'm not a quote unquote promoter.

1:12:40

Whatever. It's all good. I don't

1:12:42

get riled up over these things,

1:12:44

truly. I

1:12:46

think by now we've proven that

1:12:48

we could do a show with guests and

1:12:50

without guests. So

1:12:51

it's, you know, that's

1:12:53

just this particular show. But You

1:12:56

know? They don't bother me. They

1:12:58

may think it does, but it

1:13:00

don't. It

1:13:02

only bothers me when they lie as we've

1:13:05

already established. Connor. Hi,

1:13:07

Ari. I'll Connor from Canada

1:13:09

as someone with aspirations to move

1:13:11

to another country. Who else who also

1:13:13

faces some anxiety when it comes to meeting slash talking to new people.

1:13:15

What was it like moving to a new country when

1:13:19

you first started outworking. Could you tell us some

1:13:21

of the struggles you had moving to a new country for work and also advice you may have?

1:13:24

Well, Connor, Helwani I

1:13:28

first moved to America, it wasn't to work. It

1:13:30

was to go to school. And I was always

1:13:33

a nervous kid. I was

1:13:35

always an anxious kid. But

1:13:37

when I moved to Syracuse, to

1:13:39

go to University was nineteen, just nineteen,

1:13:42

turned nineteen in July, moved in

1:13:44

September, August,

1:13:47

those, like, really fresh nineteen

1:13:50

year old. My anxiety

1:13:54

and my my like,

1:13:56

it all amplified times a hundred. I

1:13:58

never felt anything like that before. I've

1:14:01

told the story of waiting till two AM, three

1:14:03

AM just to go brush my teeth in the

1:14:05

the freshman dorm. I went to the

1:14:08

same place just because it

1:14:10

was the closest and the easiest to get to to eat dinner for

1:14:12

seven straight days. The first week that

1:14:14

I was there, I went to Subaru.

1:14:17

I remember eating in the cafe area, I would eat

1:14:19

like super fast. I'd have slice of pizza or two.

1:14:21

I remember watching on TV that Aliyah

1:14:23

had died in a

1:14:25

plane crash. Always

1:14:28

remember that. I used to eat blue diamond almonds for dinner

1:14:30

because I didn't wanna go down to the cafeteria to get food or I

1:14:33

would get the food and run upstairs. It just for some

1:14:35

reason, I was very socially anxious. I was very

1:14:37

nervous. I put a lot of pressure

1:14:40

on myself. I

1:14:43

was very homesick. I missed

1:14:45

my friends. I missed my family.

1:14:47

And so this exasperated a lot

1:14:49

of my anxiety, and it's really

1:14:51

like toughest three years in my life so far. I felt depressed. I

1:14:53

felt alone. I felt anxious. All

1:14:56

these things. And I

1:14:58

felt relieved when it was

1:15:00

over. And I'm thankful for the

1:15:02

experience, but I felt relieved. So what I would say is, like, sometimes these things happen

1:15:04

and sometimes you have

1:15:07

to battle through it. And

1:15:10

it's okay to be alone and it's okay to, you know, not wanna interact with you

1:15:12

don't necessarily have

1:15:15

to fight that. You

1:15:18

can embrace it and find things that make you happy that you could do on your own. I would, you know, watch

1:15:21

TV, obviously,

1:15:24

watch sports, would watch

1:15:26

a lot of pro wrestling. I would watch a lot of UFC. I would order all the pay per views. Like, that was my thing

1:15:28

and that was my escape. And that's why I

1:15:30

love sports so much because it gave me that

1:15:35

escape, nicks, etcetera. So find your thing, find

1:15:37

the thing that makes you happy, find the

1:15:39

escape, and over

1:15:41

time, you will find people who you have a connection with

1:15:43

and maybe you have to get over that hump, get over

1:15:46

that chapter, and then you move on to the next.

1:15:48

And once I moved to New

1:15:50

York to start working, I was fine.

1:15:52

And even in class and I was I was in broadcasting, so I would

1:15:54

have to speak in front of people and I would have to

1:15:57

go out in

1:16:00

the field, The anxiety never got to me

1:16:02

there. It was only in social settings that it really, you know,

1:16:05

it really deterred me from going out there and and and

1:16:07

and and talking interacting to people. And I

1:16:10

had situations, I had opportunities,

1:16:12

and I just kind of f them

1:16:14

all up to be honest because of my

1:16:17

my nervousness, my anxiety, whatever you wanna call it. But it's okay. Everything

1:16:19

worked out. And so, recognize that

1:16:22

everything will work out

1:16:25

recognize that there are moments and periods in your life where it

1:16:27

might be tough, but then you'll get over it. And

1:16:32

They'll always be better days ahead. The clouds will open up.

1:16:34

Don't let it affect you too much. Don't feel sorry for yourself. Don't let your

1:16:36

wounds find the things that make you happy.

1:16:38

Try your best to put yourself out there.

1:16:42

Try your best to go to a,

1:16:44

you know, a a group, like, like, let's

1:16:46

say you're into, like, some sort of

1:16:48

club or something like that, like, try

1:16:50

your best. And then In time, you'll

1:16:53

meet people. But better

1:16:55

days ahead, mama told me they'd

1:16:57

be days like this. I always remind

1:16:59

myself of that, so it's the

1:17:01

the the the storm will pass. The storm will pass. The clouds will pass. You just have to believe in that. And

1:17:03

trust me in the moment, it feels like

1:17:06

they'll never pass, but they

1:17:08

will. If

1:17:10

you do your best, if you work out, if you go for a walk, if

1:17:13

you go for a run, if you lift some weights,

1:17:15

if you do some push ups,

1:17:17

if you do something to free your mind, it will work out.

1:17:19

Worse thing to do is sit at

1:17:21

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1:17:24

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1:17:26

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have time for one

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more

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here? Or is

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it just okay. They gave

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you know alright.

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Okay. So we had

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three more to get to. Almost

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got to the finish line. I will get to the

1:20:22

the last three in due time. For now though, let us get to our first

1:20:24

guest of the day. Very excited to talk

1:20:26

to this man. He is a legendary

1:20:29

boxer. He is one of the greatest of all time and one of the greatest of all time in

1:20:31

terms of promotion as well. Big

1:20:35

show this weekend. At the

1:20:37

YouTube theater, the brand new YouTube theater in Inglewood, California. He's our

1:20:39

good pal. The golden boy

1:20:42

himself, the one and only

1:20:45

Oscar Delajolla. Hello, Oscar. How are you, my friend? Hey. Oh, good brother. How are

1:20:47

you doing, man? I'm doing great. I like

1:20:48

this backdrop that you got here. The lighting and

1:20:50

everything, this is this is pretty most up.

1:20:55

It hook me up. I like you. Look good. Well,

1:20:57

you always look good, my friend. And speaking of

1:20:59

which, let's let's get into it off the bat.

1:21:01

Everyone wants to know the answer to this. Everyone's

1:21:03

talking about it. Hotest topic,

1:21:05

debating, speculation, pictures, all that stuff. And so let's address it off

1:21:08

the top

1:21:11

if we can. Are your abs

1:21:13

real? What is going on, Oscar? I mean, are these what is happening here? Because I see the pictures. What's going on with

1:21:15

the abs situation? I need

1:21:18

to know the answer to

1:21:20

this. Well,

1:21:22

yeah. They are real. Okay. They are my ass.

1:21:29

What I did was I, you know, I

1:21:31

got a little help from doctor, know, a little is it called?

1:21:33

It's called

1:21:36

the Lipo sculpting

1:21:38

one thing. I don't know. They actually go in with a little tiny needle.

1:21:41

Right? And it

1:21:44

sets up It sets

1:21:46

up your fat in between your abs. Wow. So what they happens is that it it it

1:21:51

they just pop Right? So I've always

1:21:53

had ads. I mean, I worked out every day. And so, you know, my body fat levels

1:21:56

low, but De know,

1:21:59

when you do that sculpting of the ads, I mean, they pop out like

1:22:02

there's no tomorrow. So everybody thinks they're fake

1:22:04

and this De it's not

1:22:06

possible, first of all, to have fake

1:22:08

ads. Yes. But but if you answer them, they

1:22:10

just pop like there's no tomorrow. Okay. Because you're leaning

1:22:12

into this. On Instagram, I see you say I paid

1:22:14

a lot of money for these. I'm gonna

1:22:18

show it off. I'm gonna be with that. I

1:22:20

mean, it's great. It's great. I I didn't even

1:22:22

know that that was a flip talk. Yes.

1:22:25

Is it is it is it painful to

1:22:27

do the procedure? Oh, hell Oh, it is. You're you're

1:22:29

out. You're out

1:22:30

for about, I would say,

1:22:33

a good two weeks. I I did this about

1:22:35

five weeks ago, and you're out about, yeah, good two

1:22:37

weeks. So yeah. I feel good now. It's

1:22:40

good. Okay. It feels

1:22:41

great. I can gain I

1:22:44

can gain

1:22:45

two hundred pounds, and I'll still have my

1:22:47

ass. What a love? Because the one's

1:22:49

that fat? What's

1:22:52

fat? Boom. Then

1:22:55

it's like, it can grow, it

1:22:57

cannot grow back in that in that

1:22:59

particular area. So it it's gonna

1:23:01

grow somewhere else, you know, behind my

1:23:03

fucking shoulders, you know, top of

1:23:05

my head or Expensive? Yeah. It's pretty expensive.

1:23:07

Okay. Alright. So, like, if you take

1:23:09

a body punch

1:23:11

now, does it kill?

1:23:13

I mean, fuck. I'm I'm hard as

1:23:15

a fucking rock. The thing is that I've had ads all my life. I've always,

1:23:17

you know, I've always had ads for

1:23:19

some reason, like, just

1:23:23

boom. But this this just they just

1:23:25

make them It's crazy. They just pop.

1:23:27

It's freaking crazy, man. Amazing. Alright. Well,

1:23:29

live your best life. Do your thing.

1:23:31

I love it. Alright. We De have

1:23:33

a lot to talk about I wanna first talk about this show, YouTube

1:23:35

Theatre, this No MMA, no real, you know,

1:23:38

big event. So if you're in

1:23:40

a fight fan

1:23:42

looking for something to do Saturday on the zone the YouTube of you're

1:23:44

really high on, a

1:23:46

couple of up and comers.

1:23:49

Tell the MMA fans out there why

1:23:52

they should watch a show. Who are we watching? Yeah. So main

1:23:54

event is is Alexis Rocha. He's a kid from LA from

1:23:56

San Anna.

1:23:59

He's he's, you know, knocking on everybody's door

1:24:02

now fighting for a world title in

1:24:04

his next fight. If he

1:24:06

went Saturday night, he's fighting this

1:24:09

kid from Donna. Those kids from Donna, you know, they're freaking tough as

1:24:11

nails, man. So it should be a really, really good fight.

1:24:13

But Alexis Roger winning

1:24:15

this Saturday night De

1:24:19

knocking on Crawford's door. He's

1:24:21

knocking on he's knocking

1:24:24

on on, you know,

1:24:26

Spencer's door. He might fight a majority. So he's

1:24:28

he's right there. He's right there. So

1:24:31

but I'm really excited about

1:24:33

the co main event I discovered this kid

1:24:35

on YouTube. I think it was

1:24:37

YouTube or Instagram. His name's Floyd

1:24:40

Schofield. He's early

1:24:42

twenties. He's like twenty. When twenty,

1:24:45

twenty one years old. He's twelve in old, ten

1:24:47

knockouts. This kid at a hundred and thirty

1:24:51

five pounds will be a threat to anybody at one hundred and thirty five,

1:24:53

one hundred and forty, at one hundred and forty seven.

1:24:55

He's a kid that his story

1:24:58

is incredible because he was

1:25:00

homeless, with his father when he was

1:25:02

two years old, 2345 years old, he was homeless. Wow. Literally,

1:25:07

in the streets, And so his father

1:25:09

introduced him to boxing. He has this tremendous tremendous

1:25:12

discipline, but he has the

1:25:14

talent to become a special fighter.

1:25:17

Okay. And so that's all this weekend on to Zone. Brand new YouTube

1:25:19

theater. That's on the campus of the SoFi Stadium.

1:25:21

Have you been to it? Is

1:25:24

it nice? It's

1:25:26

really nice. It's right. It's literally inside

1:25:28

sofa stadium connected to sofa

1:25:31

stadium. Not a bad seat in

1:25:33

the house. I believe it's fits about

1:25:35

six thousand people, but literally the

1:25:38

the the the furthest

1:25:40

seat from the ring feels like you're

1:25:42

on top of the action. It's pretty

1:25:44

cool. Okay. By the

1:25:46

way, how's how's business? Because I remember last time we spoke, you know, you were joking about being for sale,

1:25:48

what the price tag

1:25:51

would

1:25:51

be, and whatnot. Are

1:25:54

you still feeling the same way? Anything

1:25:55

now we speak. I mean,

1:25:58

for what? For a sale?

1:26:00

Northcutt. For

1:26:03

a sale? A possible sale, a

1:26:05

possible transaction -- Yeah. -- I'm still

1:26:07

gonna be in the business. I'm

1:26:10

still gonna stay involved. But, you know, look, if if the money's

1:26:12

right, if the timing is right, why

1:26:14

not? Who who's who's a prospective

1:26:16

buyer? Can you let us

1:26:18

know a couple of candidates? That's

1:26:20

that's all under covers. That's all under

1:26:22

cover, though anybody's, you know, secrets De. But, yeah,

1:26:25

there's there's a handful of

1:26:27

people who wanna

1:26:30

wanna buy Golden Boy. What do you think this year?

1:26:32

You think it happens? You think it's

1:26:33

sold? I don't know.

1:26:34

I don't know. I mean, the the

1:26:37

way the way our schedule is for the

1:26:39

next five months, it's like it it's it's it's it's kind

1:26:40

of like suck

1:26:41

any back in where it's

1:26:43

like I wanna I

1:26:45

can promote

1:26:46

-- Yeah. -- even more. You know, we have we have good fights coming up, especially with

1:26:48

with Ryan Garcia

1:26:51

and Ty Davis. Yes. Yeah.

1:26:54

It just keeps sucking me back in, man. I can't

1:26:56

get away from the sport. So I love Ron

1:26:58

Garcia. He was on the show around a week ago,

1:27:00

week or so ago, and we talked about this fight.

1:27:02

I think it would be what we're hearing, I think

1:27:05

it will be the highest selling fight in

1:27:07

North America Hoya boxing this Northcutt, bigger

1:27:10

than Crawford Spence, bigger than Furi Uziq, North America,

1:27:13

with their fan base, with their

1:27:15

records, with their backgrounds,

1:27:17

with everything, it's just tremendous. And I saw

1:27:19

the picture of YouTube holding the contract. How real is this Oscar?

1:27:21

Because as you know, we have been programmed not

1:27:24

to believe that these things are going

1:27:26

to happen in boxing. How real is this

1:27:28

fight? Yeah. It's

1:27:30

real. It's I can assure you it's gonna happen April fifteen. Wow. You

1:27:32

believe that a hundred

1:27:34

percent guaranteed. A hundred percent

1:27:39

It's it's a matter of detailed. It's a matter of just crushing the t's, dotting

1:27:41

the i's. We have the contract in

1:27:43

our hands. It's a

1:27:46

very complex, very complicated

1:27:48

contract. You know, these big fights,

1:27:50

you know, that that takes a big deal of of of patience and negotiations. But

1:27:56

yeah, it's it's actually been a

1:27:59

pleasure to work with the other side, you know, with PBC. So making

1:28:03

this fight, they understand that this is the biggest fight

1:28:06

in in in in boxing to make.

1:28:08

So, you

1:28:10

know, this is a fight where you know, you You

1:28:12

have two fighters who are in their

1:28:14

prime. You have two fighters who are

1:28:16

who are are are the best

1:28:18

and and what they do. So

1:28:21

yeah, this is the biggest fight

1:28:24

that boxing can have, so I'm excited about

1:28:25

it. And T Mobile, Las Vegas? It's definitely gonna

1:28:27

be Las Vegas.

1:28:31

I'm not sure exactly what what arena, but most likely

1:28:33

T Mobile. I would love to see it

1:28:35

at the MGM, you know,

1:28:37

where where where where

1:28:40

boxing was was literally literally born at

1:28:42

the MGM, you know, back in the days

1:28:44

with when I was

1:28:46

fighting and Mike Tyson was fighting.

1:28:49

The good old days with Kirk Kirk

1:28:52

Corian. I would love to see it there, but

1:28:54

most likely because the T Mobile Arena does hold

1:28:57

more people. It might be at the T

1:29:00

Mobile. I'm happy you say that. I've said this a lot. I think

1:29:02

MGM is infinitely better than T Mobile to watch fighting. UFC boxing

1:29:04

anything. I

1:29:07

don't like T Mobile. It feels too cavernous sterile. So it seems like

1:29:09

you agree. There's just something special about

1:29:12

MGM. Right? Yeah. There there is

1:29:14

something special. I mean, not not

1:29:16

just not just because I

1:29:18

fought there, like, twenty some odd times, but it does feel intimate -- Yeah.

1:29:21

-- for

1:29:24

some reason. Yeah, the the energy

1:29:26

there is just unlike any other venue. You know, people people have to

1:29:31

walk over MGM any Vegas to the T Mobile. And,

1:29:33

you know, you lose your little buzz

1:29:35

or whatever. You know,

1:29:37

people are getting cocky,

1:29:40

drinking, whatever. At the MGM. It's like

1:29:42

you can go straight from your room, straight to the arena and just steal the fuck it.

1:29:44

It's just it's amazing. And by the

1:29:46

way, with this air on the zone and

1:29:48

Showtime, this

1:29:51

fight. Yeah. We're all working together

1:29:53

to make to know this one out

1:29:55

of the world. We wanna make sure

1:29:57

that this this event here because it's such a

1:30:00

special fight. We wanna make

1:30:02

sure that this fight does

1:30:04

to two point five three

1:30:06

million homes. This is that type of event. What do you think it

1:30:08

does? What's your

1:30:11

guess? Realistically

1:30:12

close close to two

1:30:14

point five. Wow. That high. Yeah.

1:30:16

And and what was the toughest part in making this happen? Was

1:30:18

it the broadcasters, the promoters? What what do you think

1:30:22

was the toughest part? Yeah.

1:30:24

It's it's all the territories across the

1:30:26

globe. You know, you have the zone, you have Showtime,

1:30:31

you know, Showtime always does a great job in in

1:30:33

putting these types of events together, but

1:30:35

when you're collaborating with

1:30:37

with the zone

1:30:40

for assistance, you have

1:30:42

to share territories, you have to the split of revenues, it's very

1:30:44

complex, but we were

1:30:46

able to put it together.

1:30:50

When

1:30:50

when will we get an official announcement, a press

1:30:52

conference, or release something to make us

1:30:54

feel like, okay, this is

1:30:55

real. Yeah. Like I said,

1:30:58

the contracts in my hands, and I'm

1:31:00

I'm looking over it as we speak. It's it's

1:31:02

it's very it's very tedious work -- Okay. --

1:31:04

that we focus on here

1:31:06

and and and and and and

1:31:10

finish, but I would say I would say the next in the next week or so. You know, it'll

1:31:12

be a great

1:31:15

moment. You pull up that

1:31:17

you sign a live on this show. Think

1:31:19

about the attention that we would get if you sign the contract back on the show. shirt on even better.

1:31:21

Jesus, I love a true

1:31:24

promoter, Oscar. A

1:31:27

true promoter. Speaking of promoters, I'd be

1:31:29

remiss if I didn't ask about your

1:31:31

longtime friend, Dana

1:31:33

White, you were outspoken about what he's been

1:31:35

going through. Are you surprised, Oscar, that

1:31:38

apparently it seems at this point

1:31:40

nothing is going to

1:31:42

happen as a result of incident that

1:31:44

we saw on camera back on New

1:31:46

Year's

1:31:47

Eve? Yeah. I'm very

1:31:47

surprised. I'm I'm

1:31:48

actually very surprised, but that's look,

1:31:50

I mean, there's a lot of

1:31:54

there's a lot of powerful people behind

1:31:56

UFC and, you know, and and,

1:31:58

you know, there's a lot of

1:32:01

money behind the the the

1:32:03

organization You know I can I can look,

1:32:05

what he did was obviously wrong? You

1:32:08

don't hit women.

1:32:10

I mean, come on. You just don't. It's it's it's

1:32:12

a it's a douche

1:32:13

move. It really is. You don't

1:32:15

do that.

1:32:18

But look, the the

1:32:19

the powers to be, kept it kept

1:32:21

it under the rug, swept it under

1:32:24

the rug. I'm

1:32:26

not gonna get involved or say anything

1:32:28

about it. I mean, everybody knows

1:32:30

that he's a douche. So

1:32:33

you don't think

1:32:34

anything happens. I don't

1:32:35

know. I mean, maybe criminal charges. Maybe

1:32:37

I don't know who knows. Okay.

1:32:39

Who knows? I mean, you know you

1:32:41

know something happens one day and then

1:32:44

the news for retaliation takes

1:32:46

place months from from the from the incident. So

1:32:51

Who knows? Maybe something might happen down the block. Okay. By the

1:32:53

way, have you seen any of his new

1:32:56

promotion? The the Slap fighting? Have you seen any of this?

1:32:58

Do you have any thoughts on this? Have you seen

1:33:00

this? I've seen

1:33:02

I've seen one promotion on Instagram, and I think it's I think it's terrible. I I really

1:33:04

do think it's terrible.

1:33:06

It's it's I mean,

1:33:10

you have you have two guys that are

1:33:12

just slapping each

1:33:13

other. Like, there's

1:33:14

no way of like there's no

1:33:16

way of of pulling the punch. There's no

1:33:19

way of dodging it. There's no way of, like, defending yourself. There's it's it's just I don't

1:33:20

know. It's just it's it's it's

1:33:22

it's not a sport, first of all.

1:33:27

And and secondly, it's like, I mean,

1:33:29

until until one person becomes

1:33:31

brain dead is when

1:33:33

people are gonna speak out.

1:33:35

Not tea.

1:33:36

Oh, not my cup of

1:33:37

tea. It's just it's it's it's

1:33:39

nonsense bullshit. Wanna

1:33:42

ask you about two more and then

1:33:44

we'll let you go. I know your time is

1:33:46

limited. Appreciate you always coming on. We have two

1:33:48

MMA guys who are very much interested in the

1:33:50

world of box I don't know how much you've been following this, but Francis Angano who is the

1:33:53

UFC heavyweight champion now wants to go over.

1:33:55

He's talking big names. Given your

1:33:57

insight, your experience, your

1:33:59

history, your legendary career, do

1:34:01

you think he can hang with those guys or do you think that would be a huge mistake if he tries to get a fight with a Joshua

1:34:04

or fury?

1:34:08

Well well, fighters like him. I think he

1:34:10

can hang in there for a few rounds. If it's

1:34:15

a boxing ring, De obviously can hang in there for

1:34:17

a few rounds. But, I mean, Tyson Fury is a guy who he grew up

1:34:19

boxing. That that was his that was his

1:34:22

thing, you know, and and and that's his

1:34:24

sport. Huge advantage

1:34:26

for for for Furi. Obviously, if it was

1:34:28

in a cage, it it would be a whole different

1:34:30

story. I mean, it would tap them out and

1:34:35

or or, you know, whatever, you know, kick them and

1:34:37

knock them out in thirty seconds.

1:34:40

Mhmm. Totally different sports,

1:34:42

but I think it'll be

1:34:44

great. I think it'll be

1:34:46

great for for both sports. I think it'll be great for for boxing because,

1:34:51

you know, it's it'll

1:34:53

be a huge fight. It'll be it'll be like a it'll be

1:34:55

a mega event, like, let's say, you know,

1:34:58

when Tyson was fired you

1:35:03

had all that hype behind these big

1:35:05

events and fights, it would be

1:35:07

that

1:35:07

big. He's a free agent.

1:35:09

Any interest in speaking

1:35:11

to him? I love to speak to I would love to speak

1:35:13