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Me, Ben. Oh, let's go. Hello,

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we're traveling down because it's not just

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me. It's Propo

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and it's Ben Isaacs, aka

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at tweets from Ben in

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the house. How are you, Benny? I'm

2:27

good. Obviously, I'm a bit shaken by the

2:29

fact that my Drew Lock did not come

2:32

in. I mean, I'm so impressed you found out for the

2:34

show to be honest. It

2:36

was more defying, but the thing is, when

2:39

you have a Drew Lock, when you pick a

2:41

favorite to get a heavy victory and

2:44

they're like 27 points down quite quickly,

2:46

at least then you come to terms with

2:48

it quite quickly that, okay, my

2:50

Drew Lock is not coming in this

2:52

week. There's no biting of

2:54

nails. It is done. I've

2:57

moved on. Will I learn my lesson?

2:59

We'll find out later. You sound a lot like

3:01

Shane Breen guest on our show this week. Of

3:03

course, go check that out in the vault, the

3:06

brilliant Shane Breen along with the fantastic Scott McCabe

3:08

as well. One of our divisional round preview pods.

3:10

We've got three, Frank, because today's going to be

3:12

all about that as well. Of course, Shane talks

3:14

about that from a playing perspective. Ben, he says,

3:16

in a way he prefers the blowout game. He

3:18

said Belichick used prefer the

3:20

blowout games as opposed

3:22

to the narrow, edgy losses. Propo, I

3:24

guess we feel the same, right? You'd rather just

3:26

go out blazing as opposed

3:28

to a nail biting, bad beat,

3:31

back door cover, crazy

3:33

old finish, right? I woke

3:35

up, obviously, I was saying how last week I was talking

3:37

with the over and the Rams Lions game. I was tossing

3:39

that between the going with the Rams spread. So

3:41

I make that regret. But the worst thing about it was, as I

3:43

said last week, I think this game is going to be a classic.

3:46

And I think it was a classic. It was a

3:48

great game, definitely the best game of the weekend. And

3:51

I woke up, obviously, I have to wake up at 3.45am

3:53

for my job on a Monday morning. So I set

3:56

my alarm earlier and I woke up for the second half

3:58

and I woke up to the second half. starting

4:00

with there being 38 points on the

4:02

board. I needed two touchdowns in

4:04

that second half between the Rams and the Lions,

4:07

with the Rams moving the ball so easily. Yes,

4:09

Goff didn't have the best second half, but the

4:11

Rams were moving the ball so easily. And I

4:13

watched them get into the red zone, what was

4:15

it, three times and just fail to

4:18

convert a touchdown on any of those red

4:21

zone possessions. Cooper Cupp just couldn't get any

4:23

separation whatsoever, slightly concerning about him going to

4:25

next season. Obviously, Nakuya went completely off. The

4:27

run game was completely stopped by the Lions

4:29

as well. Williams couldn't get going. He ended

4:31

up getting banged up as well. It

4:33

was one of those where I woke up and I was like,

4:35

God, I really could have done with that extra hour of sleep

4:37

when I started producing a four-hour radio show. What is the proper

4:41

sequence when you get up at 3.30

4:43

in the morning and the game's on?

4:45

So, presumably, the first thing is reach

4:47

over to the side of your

4:49

bed and have a quick swig of tequila, right? That's going to

4:51

presumably both of you do. But then when you're up and about,

4:53

so what do you do? Do you have it on an iPad?

4:57

Do you obviously have sports coverage on,

4:59

I'm sure, all the way through? But

5:01

yeah, you're getting ready to go to work. Literally,

5:04

it's literally like I'm getting ready. I am getting

5:06

out of bed. I have it on

5:08

my phone and my laptop so I can put it

5:10

in my phone when I get in the shower. So

5:12

I'm watching it on the phone in the shower. While

5:14

I'm brushing my teeth, I have it on my phone.

5:16

But then I permanently have it on my laptop in

5:18

my room. So when I'm kind of getting ready, getting

5:20

dressed and everything, I literally have the game on at

5:23

all times. And I'm basically, because my flatmate obviously is

5:25

asleep, and next door to me, I'm basically, if something

5:27

comes in or something doesn't come in and I'm screaming

5:29

and shouting, there's a lot of silent screaming and shouting.

5:31

That kind of like smashing something without actually smashing it.

5:33

And all of those reactions that you'd love to do,

5:35

but I have to do it in a complete silent manner. It's

5:38

like a sketch pretty much. But it's a weird

5:41

world I live in. It is a weird world

5:43

I live in. But it's great. I tell you

5:45

what, it makes it so much easier to wake up

5:47

at that time when you know that you've got the NFL to watch

5:49

and you know you've got something to look

5:51

forward to. So it's almost like Christmas.

5:53

You go to bed like it's Christmas. I

5:55

get to wake up and watch the game. Yeah, I love

5:57

that. And that's a note then not to chat to all.

6:00

When the seasons done late February is a

6:02

bleak time for all of us are not

6:04

particularly all of it's keep it keep a

6:06

wide berth from him. We should deputy get

6:08

are only getting up. For. His

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Talksport gig. ah for the morning water

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games on as you tube video. We

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should definitely that guy. Now that would

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dry describes a speaking of our Youtube

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this is garbage us on you tube which we

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just ask anything love and shouting out and adding

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our friends usa sports as well so they're going

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to be things to wait as well as off

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Respect. Or an undying gratitude

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mark whole. Shut. Out T Mark

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Who are you to describe of the week? Not only

7:00

are we giving a big up here on the pod.

7:03

But. Dave. Dave Clark or

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legendary Creative Genius and said have created a

7:07

shot for you Pushed down social big you

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up as well on the and see such

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a channel sites you getting a lot of

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love. Of or Marco and quite

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rightly so good. We appreciate that that

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support. I. Think we gotta say

7:20

though although I would. I would love

7:23

a kind of insight into the only

7:25

early morning routine when he spotted juggled

7:27

get ready for work in the Nfl

7:29

game. I've just gotta say I don't

7:31

want any you to footage of him

7:33

in the shower I'd I know it's

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bad enough I know is watching the

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games naked. Are on the have to go

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there. By the i mean crime you have to pay for that

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stuff on the regime that stuff for free my are gone only

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front page of you wanna pay for it. Up

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best. I only got a link

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to the show notes I love

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of it Up didn't I might

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drop something? Really? Really? On

7:54

possible the what's average the other know about

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was really about I. I g really enjoy

7:59

that you said. Oh God I love something

8:01

that you react like a dad or like a

8:03

mom. You're definitely the mom of the child and

8:05

he's definitely granddad. This as Devry the way that

8:07

is like you got you've got a lot really

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are I see when I sorry I said what?

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The big brother Zola, the little brother yeah and

8:14

kids are also we've got people and I marry

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bird like.social have it on social media for us

8:18

for years. So much to say that been up

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my calls and is still my calls and in

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a sudden causes as days ago. Maybe that's something

8:24

we should give. As a competition prize

8:26

just us like a week a week ticket. So

8:29

ah what's outwards the fifth about that earth are

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bad sex or I we all get a break

8:33

down a cliff notes at rom games were going

8:35

to get gets those just moments with all three

8:37

lox. Ah favorite pics of the week we get

8:40

our backers. well we didn't get Aca proper within

8:42

like a double. Now we're getting to this number

8:44

again other which is to try to the Aca

8:46

obviously. Last week I said that while I was

8:49

the Bills in the Chiefs I am and that

8:51

the the Cowboys as much as the are we

8:53

went with the Oracle been Isaacs because I was

8:55

very. Much. On the package last week but

8:57

of as he considering bands record the season

8:59

we have to follow him. But Adam go

9:01

to Alfred Bended at our country. they're free

9:04

Mccarthy back valve and we all want to

9:06

get all that. I'm a comic noom in

9:08

the news and coaching neither will get into

9:10

before we get the divisional round. Just to

9:12

wrap up the housekeeping see by dropped to

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do lox much a lot landed so on

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above five hundred out of your above my

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my job just drop below five hundred and

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we are so on one game a few.

9:23

Yeah and band is what Ben your life's

9:25

fifteen for. And three or something. I wanted

9:27

these over one on on attack. Yeah yeah

9:29

I think it's safe. Fifty four one something

9:31

on our oh I saw my it's not

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something I see don't know what to say

9:36

I throttling around. well I guess he drops

9:38

it and takes out pigs like is it

9:40

lies you want You know that record is

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to sell artificial I'd I'd just whoa whoa

9:44

whoa whoa. Things that are nine now. He

9:47

had all every assists silk pick I have

9:49

made on this show counts towards that. Your

9:51

swords every what about such a Pc to

9:53

chat Cbt when. Chatty

9:55

P T know to this of the eagles Gg bitty

9:57

I don't think is one a bat in about. six

10:00

weeks. Because the chat GPT backed the Eagles

10:03

last week didn't they? Yeah of course, it

10:05

did chat GPT in a close game. Well

10:07

okay, well Ben you're gonna be programming, prompting

10:09

I think is the technical term, chat GPT

10:12

on today's show because you're on chat GPT's best bud as you

10:14

maybe didn't know Ben, I don't know if you listened back to

10:16

the show last week but I was

10:19

on chat GPT duty and things

10:21

are warming up a little bit. Like chat GPT

10:23

seems to like me a bit more than it

10:25

did a couple of weeks back but no

10:28

one can fill your boot so you're

10:30

gonna be on chat GPT duty proper you're

10:32

picking our DraftKings team in a week

10:34

right? Yeah I've picked it. That is very

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exciting. All right so don't forget of

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course the show notes will have a link

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11:00

call with the DraftKings crew on Monday. They're promising

11:02

big things for the Super Bowl. So

11:05

watch this space and we're going to be

11:07

announcing some very exciting stuff there very soon.

11:09

Right we'll get into the divisional games in

11:11

just a mo but let's let's

11:14

talk about a bit of coaching intrigue

11:18

starting with well this story broke overnight

11:20

Ben will go to this first giving

11:22

it to your beloved bears Cliff

11:25

Kingsbury being interviewed

11:27

for the OC gig in in

11:29

Chicago. Now as well

11:31

the article in On

11:34

the Athletic has seemingly four different

11:36

genres contributing to it. Well between

11:38

them they've made the point fairly

11:43

sharply that the

11:45

connection here is intriguing because

11:48

of Caleb Williams right because

11:51

Kingsbury most recently was

11:53

part of the USC coaching

11:55

crew. So what does this

11:57

mean? Are we joining the dots too readily?

12:00

are we jumping to conclusions or does

12:02

this indicate that as the

12:04

athletics suggest that the bears are

12:06

at least considering making a play for him? Yeah,

12:09

I think the bears are seriously considering

12:12

drafting Caleb Williams and seriously considering

12:14

keeping Justin Fields. So

12:16

I don't think they are particularly

12:18

close to making up their mind on that. And

12:21

also it doesn't

12:24

benefit them to show their

12:26

hand too early because if

12:28

everyone thinks, oh, they're taking Caleb Williams

12:31

or everyone knows they're not taking Caleb

12:33

Williams, it changes the value of that,

12:36

the trade value of that draft pick. So-

12:39

Are they using Cliff Kingsbury? I

12:41

think they could be using Cliff

12:43

Kingsbury to indicate, oh, they are

12:45

interested potentially in Caleb Williams. They

12:48

might genuinely be interested. They might be trying

12:50

to figure out from Cliff

12:52

Kingsbury strengths and weaknesses that

12:55

are not seen on the field.

12:58

Or they might just see, look, here's

13:00

a guy who had a great reputation

13:02

in terms of putting up good offenses

13:04

when he was at Texas Tech. It

13:07

didn't go fantastically well for him in

13:09

Arizona as a head coach. Maybe he is better as an

13:12

OC. And

13:15

the thing is, the offense at USC last

13:17

season was not amazing. They were not lighting

13:19

it up and Caleb Williams, he

13:22

didn't regress, but he did not

13:24

have a spectacular year as he had the year before. So

13:27

it's not like, oh, Cliff Kingsbury, offensive

13:29

genius, he brings the best out of

13:31

Caleb Williams. It's intriguing that they're doing

13:33

this. And from a

13:36

bear's perspective, I think it's a good idea. I

13:38

think it keeps the

13:40

trade value of that first round pick potentially

13:42

getting higher. And it can only

13:45

be useful. You'll speak to lots and

13:47

lots of people in a coaching search,

13:49

and you'll get a little bit of information from them. I

13:53

just don't know. I just don't know. I think it's a good

13:55

idea to talk to him, but I just don't know what it

13:57

means. Okay, next up, Belichick.

14:00

interview in Atlanta seems pretty

14:02

much proper that that's a done deal right better

14:04

check to the Falcons. I like the

14:06

idea though I would like Bellacheck's reaction to the fact

14:08

that he has to have a second interview because he

14:11

can master it like one of the greatest coaches of

14:13

all time if not the greatest coach of all time

14:15

you're like really do I need to come out for

14:17

a second interview? He's not some graduate joke trying to

14:19

go into like a sports marketing job is he like

14:21

where he's going back for a second interview he's nervous

14:23

for it he is yeah the greatest coach of all

14:25

time potentially and but I think I

14:27

mean it makes sense it's interesting and I thought

14:29

what you and Shane got into it on the

14:32

preview podcast it was fascinating because it is going to

14:34

be all about how much power does he have is

14:36

he going to be the GM is he going to

14:38

have all of those personnel responsibilities as well but

14:41

obviously it's an improvement on Arthur Smith I don't

14:43

think that's a hot take in any way Bill

14:45

Bellacheck and from just a coaching standpoint he'll be

14:47

able to get the best out of this defense specifically

14:49

and you hope that he'll be able to bring

14:51

in an offensive coordinator who will be able to utilize

14:54

the weapons that Arthur Smith has failed with and Bejan

14:56

Robinson and Karl Pitts so you think

14:58

that Bill Bellacheck is a great fit

15:00

because this Falcons team is full of talent they're in

15:02

a division which you could easily start dominating I know

15:04

the time Bay Buccaneers are in the divisional round but

15:06

I still don't think they're an incredible

15:08

team. Bill Bellacheck making that move from the AFC

15:10

East to the NFC South is potentially one of

15:12

the smartest moves you can make as a coach

15:14

in terms of if you're going after that those

15:16

winning that winning record that he's going afterward and

15:18

I think it makes sense I think he is

15:20

it's a right choice for him and

15:22

it's the right choice for the Atlanta Falcons I think it seems

15:24

to fit well. Okay

15:26

well it's not a done deal yet but

15:29

it feels like that is how it's gonna

15:31

play out Mike Brable of course an in-demand

15:34

coach oh Benny you want to come in on Bellacheck?

15:36

Yeah just a stat I love so yeah Bill Bellacheck

15:38

as a coach has won 333 games

15:40

right second overall only behind the great

15:44

Don Schuler with 347 so Bellacheck alone 333 the

15:46

Atlanta Falcons in their entire

15:50

history have won 390 games like

15:54

Bellacheck since the 90s yeah

15:57

isn't that far off Atlanta since the 19

16:00

That's bad. That's really bad. I'm looking at

16:02

the maths. That's bad. Hot take from Ben.

16:04

I like that. That's kind of like when

16:06

you get stats saying that Tyreek Hill has

16:09

more receiving yards than the entire receiving core

16:11

of the Chicago Bears. Now, just

16:14

quickly, let's wrap up some of the

16:16

other coaching news. Ray Bull, as I

16:18

say, of course, widely expected to land

16:22

one of the gigs. He's interviewing everyone,

16:24

including at land for the Seahawks, apparently

16:26

are going to be getting him in

16:28

as well. The Chargers, who

16:30

are also interviewing Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh,

16:32

that is the Michigan head coach,

16:35

fresh on the back of their

16:37

championship. Leslie Frazier, the Bills defensive

16:39

coordinator, it's been in the mix there as

16:41

well in LA. So that

16:44

is, it feels like LA, I guess, obviously because of

16:46

the Herbert factor is

16:48

a particularly enticing gig.

16:51

Who do you reckon will land there? Like if

16:54

everyone will want the gig, right? So who

16:56

do you think that they might go for?

16:58

Ray Bull. Harbaugh feels like he would be

17:00

the favorite, I suppose. I think Harbaugh is

17:02

the favorite and

17:04

it makes some sort of sense. However, I

17:07

personally don't know how attractive a job it is

17:09

because yes, they seem to be set at the

17:12

quarterback position. I'm sure you could feel confident about

17:14

that, but I don't

17:16

love the rest of the roster. I don't love

17:18

the age of the roster. I don't love the

17:21

salary cap situation they're in. So whoever comes in

17:23

has got a lot of work to do. This

17:25

is not, you don't have

17:27

the tools there ready to rebuild quite easily because

17:29

you've got to work around that salary cap. You've

17:32

got your quarterback and

17:34

Jim Harbaugh will love that. He

17:37

interviewed in Atlanta. I don't think he's

17:39

going to get that over Bill Belichick, obviously. It would,

17:42

I like the fit, but I think

17:44

it is a hard, hard job for

17:47

whoever, whoever takes that role and the

17:49

AFC West. It's

17:51

like, we, at the start of the season,

17:53

we felt like, you know, the AFC West had so many

17:56

good teams and we thought the Broncos were going to be

17:58

really good. We thought the Chargers were going to run

18:00

for playoffs. We thought the Raiders were the only

18:02

ones who didn't really have a shot. And it

18:04

ended up being a weird division. The Chiefs haven't

18:06

been great. If one team can get really good,

18:10

unless the Chiefs actually improve their...

18:13

I'm talking about a team that could easily be in the

18:15

Super Bowl in a few weeks, but the Chiefs do not

18:17

look like the Chiefs of the last two years. There's an

18:19

opportunity in that division that if Jim Harbaugh

18:21

is the guy and he can get

18:23

some wily veterans to support Hurberts,

18:27

then you could have a winning combination. But I

18:29

think it's a tough, tough place to win right

18:31

now. It is going to be a slow road,

18:33

you think? Not an automatic fix. All right, so

18:35

of course we'll be a Breston. All

18:38

of this, all of the moves,

18:40

all of the decisions as they're made. Dallas are going to

18:42

back McCarthy for one more year, much to the delight of

18:44

the Cowboys fans. We'll get into all this and break it

18:46

down over the course of the coming weeks, because

18:48

one of the better news and we're going to get into

18:50

divisional. And one Ben, I

18:53

think I'm really interested in your take on

18:55

in particular with the International Pathway

18:57

program. Place is getting announced this week.

18:59

The most high profile name on

19:02

these shores anyway was Louis Rees-Zamit,

19:04

the Welsh rugby player. Got

19:07

a huge amount of traction because he is a real star

19:09

and there is a very real sense

19:11

of expectation that he could be the

19:14

next Brit to give it a

19:16

fighting chance. So I have a

19:18

fighting chance of making a roster

19:21

and perhaps where our friend, Christian

19:23

Scotland Williamson and of course Christian

19:25

Wade, blazed a trail and

19:27

moved everything forward significantly. The next

19:29

step of course is getting a

19:31

player onto a regular

19:33

53-man roster and having a

19:37

solid permanent role

19:40

on the team. And Louis

19:42

Rees-Zamit seems to be one of those

19:44

players that people think could go all

19:46

the way. Ben, what's your take on it? Absolutely

19:49

electric with the ball in his hands. I

19:55

can picture him kind of returning a kick or

19:57

a punt and being absolutely He's

20:01

down as a receiver and running back.

20:04

When you see him running with the ball, when

20:07

he's playing rugby, he's quite upright. I

20:09

think he's a big target to hit. I

20:12

don't think he's got a bulk on

20:14

his body. I mean, he can put that on. He's like 22.

20:17

He'll be able to put more muscle on if that's what he wants

20:19

to do. He'll be able to do that. But

20:21

it's going to be tough. He's

20:25

aiming for a skill position. A lot of

20:27

the players in that international player pathway this

20:29

year are linemen or kickers, which is a

20:31

much easier transition. For

20:34

him to be an NFL wide receiver or

20:36

NFL running back, I think it's a real,

20:38

real long shot. I'm really glad he's doing

20:40

it, and I think he's making the right

20:43

decision. He's doing it now at a young

20:45

age. If it doesn't work out, he

20:47

can come back and still play international rugby,

20:50

get paid a lot of money. He

20:52

could walk into pretty much any team. But

20:55

the expectations are high because

20:58

he's so talented. But we've got to remember,

21:00

he's going to be competing with – it's

21:02

not just the guys from around the world.

21:04

It's the people in

21:06

America who are also very talented and

21:09

have been playing for years. Yeah.

21:13

It's interesting. We've worked

21:15

a lot with Christian over the years, Oll, and he

21:17

talks about the – the

21:21

easier part of it is the stuff that

21:23

obviously comes naturally to Ben's point, having

21:26

an explosive burst of speed, being a

21:28

really top athlete, good hands,

21:31

all of the tackling, of course, if that's relevant, all

21:33

of those things that are by

21:36

and large already imprinted in muscle memory and a

21:38

clear cut. All the other

21:40

aspects are blocking, obviously understanding the complexity

21:43

of a playbook. That's

21:46

the challenging part of it. Is special teams

21:48

the logical way here for most players of

21:51

his type to get onto a roster? I

21:54

think initially that has got to be

21:56

his main focus for Lewis Rees-Sammi. I

21:58

think the difficulty – is and this is

22:01

like a thing that Christian said to me that lives

22:03

long in my memory which is that and

22:06

learning an NFL playbook is harder than a law

22:08

conversion degree. Obviously Christian has gone on to do

22:10

a law conversion degree and the fact the idea

22:13

that going in and not only having to change

22:15

your physiological style which he also mentions because it's

22:17

a lot more about those initial bursts of speed,

22:19

it's more about those sort of short sharp movements

22:21

and being able to perform in a shorter span

22:24

of time instead of it being about fitness and

22:26

longevity, it's all about those short bursts of speed

22:28

and agility and that's what he's going to have

22:30

to focus on but then if you combine his

22:33

physiological changes he's going to have to make to

22:35

adapt to being an NFL player with the

22:38

intellectual side of it as well being the fact that you're

22:40

going to have to be thinking about all of those various

22:42

different things, thinking how many steps you're going to have to

22:44

take, which gap you're going to have to fill, all of

22:46

those different things combined with the physiological stuff is going to

22:49

be really difficult for him and obviously he's the

22:51

best rugby player we've seen go over there in

22:53

terms of going into skill positions. Christian Wade was

22:55

obviously electric but I think Louis Riesammet being a

22:57

line at age 20, realistically he had one of

23:00

the brightest futures in Welsh rugby, potentially in world

23:02

rugby even though he hasn't necessarily had as good

23:04

a year over the past year as he had

23:06

sort of in the early parts of his career. He does

23:08

have the best opportunity but I think it's a big risk

23:10

for him realistically. I know that you said it's like the

23:12

early stages of his career but even coming back he'll be

23:14

able to get straight back into Welsh rugby which I think

23:17

is an indictment on how where rugby is right now

23:19

as well and that's like another wider story of this

23:22

is just like how easily someone's dropping a sport to

23:24

go and try. Do you know what I mean? You're

23:26

a star of one sport and you just drop it

23:28

because you're like, do you know what? I might just

23:30

go see how I'll try another sport. Like I think

23:32

that's a sad sight for rugby. There's so many sad

23:34

stories about it right now but I think as you

23:36

said special teams is definitely the star and it's just

23:38

trying to get another roster, trying to show his athleticism,

23:40

show what he is capable of and getting a team

23:42

to invest in him as much as they can, giving

23:45

specific coaching and really focus on him to see if

23:47

they can get the best out of his skills because

23:49

there's no doubt he's got the hands, he's got the

23:51

speed. He's going up against like in terms

23:53

of skill positions, you're going up against people who've been

23:55

doing this and learning this sport and learning this craft,

23:57

understanding the game since the age of seven. his

24:00

dad was a big fan of American football but

24:02

surely Louis Risamit hasn't been training to

24:05

American football whilst he's also been a professional rugby player.

24:07

I don't think you've got the capability for that. No,

24:09

there's no way. I think it's just going to be

24:11

really difficult to learn as much as he needs to

24:13

learn and to develop as much as he needs to

24:16

develop over the space of what, two,

24:18

three years he's really got a chance of it but

24:20

I mean just as my ignorant English perspective goes, I

24:22

mean, God, what does Wales have if they don't have

24:24

rugby right now? No, I mean, you're

24:27

absolutely right about kind of what it

24:29

says about rugby and Welsh rugby, that

24:31

enough players, even those at the very top

24:33

are like, yeah, I can turn my back on this. Because

24:36

we've got time against us, let's just get a quick

24:38

perspective from rugby journalist Mark Pickering.

24:41

He watches Louis day in day out, week

24:43

in week out and loves his

24:45

NFL as well so we figured, great person to get

24:48

a perspective on this transition. Let's hear what

24:50

Mark's got to say about it. The

24:53

Rheesamit is one of the world's brightest

24:55

young stars. It's a huge loss for

24:57

Wales and other Six Nations, for his

25:00

club Gloucester, who he scored a trademark

25:02

wonder try for on the weekend but

25:04

also for the game of rugby and

25:06

he had just lit up his first

25:08

World Cup last year with five tries.

25:11

But for Rheesamit personally, the timing

25:13

does make sense. He only turns

25:16

23 in February and

25:18

he knows whatever happens, he can stroll

25:20

back into rugby and reclaim his spot

25:22

for club and country. He's

25:25

six foot three, 195 pounds, he's got pace

25:29

in abundance, impressive footwork and

25:31

he can catch the ball but can

25:33

he make the leap to the NFL

25:35

as a running back or a wide

25:38

receiver? The odds are stacked

25:40

against him but that's only going to

25:42

motivate him even more. Hopefully

25:44

he stays injury free and

25:46

things work out for him. If he

25:49

does make it onto a franchise in

25:51

2024, I'm sure the

25:53

Welsh Rugby Union and Gloucester Rugby

25:55

will come call in and be

25:57

seeking some financial compensation. Pickering

26:00

there, rugbyjourno, underscore Mark Pickering is how

26:02

you follow him on X. Let's forget

26:05

the X. We will keep a close

26:07

eyes on that story and indeed the wider International

26:09

Pathway program plays a bunch of Irish players

26:12

as well, making the transition very excitingly. So

26:14

we'll get into a lot of that in

26:16

more detail in the off season. But

26:18

there's a small matter of the divisional rounds and our

26:20

picks and previews to come. So we're going to take

26:22

a quick break. When we come back, we are going

26:24

to roll our sleeves up and get right into it

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welcome back to Fit Stairs, Ed Drush. Where

27:02

shall we begin, gang? Which

27:04

game shall we go to first? Why

27:07

don't we go to 49 as pack as proper?

27:11

Because you and I both like

27:13

the same thing in this game. And it

27:15

is an intriguing

27:17

game, I think, because the Packers

27:20

are rolling into this with their

27:22

tails up, with a free

27:24

hit, really, because nobody's giving

27:27

them a huge amount, putting

27:29

a huge amount of credence into them,

27:31

upsetting the 49ers actually winning

27:33

it. But yet offensively,

27:35

they are absolutely

27:37

rolling right now. And

27:40

you look at the offensive,

27:42

start with the offensive comparisons,

27:45

logically, given the two coaches at play here,

27:48

there are a lot of parallels with

27:51

how they set their stall out. They

27:53

heavily rely on the play

27:55

action. They have very similar offenses in

27:58

terms of philosophy. the ground game

28:01

intrinsic of course to that play action is one of the

28:03

things that has been fundamental in

28:05

the Packers offensive resurgence because of

28:08

course Aaron Jones coming

28:10

back and he's been one of the

28:12

most informed running backs in the league

28:14

right now as well as that productivity

28:16

on the ground has enabled the Packers

28:18

offense to move to a different level

28:20

as well as Jordan loves the climatization

28:22

so offensively we're looking albeit

28:24

the 49ers more stacked with superstars

28:27

at very similar game plans right yeah

28:30

I think so I think ultimately for

28:32

the Green Bay Packers if they're going to

28:34

have a chance in this game they need to do

28:36

exactly what they did against the Dallas Cowboys they need

28:38

to well win the coin toss Lefler needs to take

28:40

the ball initially and they need to take do a

28:43

huge drive finish with a touchdown and make sure the

28:45

49ers play from behind like we saw against the Baltimore

28:47

Ravens and I think that's what Lefler is going to

28:49

try to do they need to rely on Aaron Jones

28:51

as much as they possibly can even though the 49ers

28:53

are stout against the run obviously Aaron Jones in one

28:55

of the best parts of his career three touchdowns last

28:57

week we tipped our hand to that he's been incredible

28:59

and then obviously they've got this wide receiver room where

29:01

you never really know who he's throwing it to until

29:03

like after the commentators said his name just because it feels like

29:05

they're all the same player you never know if it's going to

29:07

be a Jaden Reed game you never know if it's going to

29:09

be a Dontavian Wicks game you never know if it's going

29:12

to be a Romeo Dobbs game it's just incredible

29:14

what Lefler is getting out of Jordan Love and

29:16

he's getting out of this wide receiver room obviously

29:19

Musgrave had a big game last week as well

29:21

they've even got Croft it's incredible how suddenly packed

29:23

these weapons are for the Green Bay Packers but

29:25

at the same time I think my biggest issue

29:28

for this game and I think the Packers can

29:30

have success in offense because of the way Jordan

29:32

Love is playing and because the secondary can be

29:34

thrown on as long as you keep it away

29:36

from Chaldavius Ward and you throw towards Miami-Thomas I

29:38

think you can have success against this 49ers secondary

29:40

the other side of the ball is where I'm convinced

29:43

that the Green Bay Packers defense is going to struggle

29:45

the reason why they were so good last weekend for

29:47

Cowboys despite obviously letting up a lot of garbage time

29:49

points was because Dak kind of

29:51

froze a little bit and Dak was suddenly

29:55

in quite a big deficit and was having to force his hand

29:57

quite a lot having quite forced the issue and that played into

30:00

the Green Bay Packers hands significantly.

30:02

We're still talking about a defense

30:04

that allowed Bryce Young and

30:06

the Carolina Panthers to put up

30:08

30 points. He, Bryce Young 312

30:10

yards, two touchdowns. We're talking about

30:12

a Packers defense that Baker Mayfield

30:14

looked like an MVP going

30:16

up against him. He had 381 yards. Careful

30:19

about the Baker. This is on this show

30:21

proper. Yeah, I know. The numbers do stack

30:23

up, right? So this incredible

30:25

turnaround offensively, and it's from week nine

30:27

that you've seen this turnaround. So essentially

30:29

the second half of the season, but

30:32

defensively statistically, they've basically been about

30:34

the same level. There's been some improvement, but they're

30:36

in the mid

30:38

twenties really in terms of defensive

30:41

EPA, right? Probably the

30:43

best player of the week against them. Just another one. It's

30:47

an interesting again. Watch what you say

30:49

about Tommy DeVito on this show. This

30:51

was interesting during that time and

30:54

during this turn turn around in the

30:56

Packers season and offense driving that. Over

30:59

the first eight weeks of the season, Green Bay were ranked

31:01

28 in time of possession

31:03

per drive since then, since

31:05

the turnaround, they've been ranking

31:07

second in time of possession

31:09

per drive as well. So

31:11

obviously the offense has had

31:14

success in terms of productivity,

31:16

but also is as we

31:19

see time and again with this

31:21

interchangeability, it's probably contributed to a

31:23

marginal uplift defensively as well, because

31:26

they're just protecting, protecting them in

31:28

that respect. What do you think

31:30

though about this 49ers rush against

31:34

a very, very sturdy Packers offensive line? What do

31:36

you think of that matchup? Ben, let me come

31:38

to you on that. What's your take on whether

31:41

the 49ers will be able to get much cut

31:43

through there because the Packers O-line has been holding

31:45

up really well. They've been brilliant.

31:47

They've been brilliant. And I don't

31:49

think you can say enough good things about

31:51

the way that Matt Loflow has just got

31:53

everything, got everything working. That offensive line has

31:55

been stout. It's been really reliable

31:58

when you've got a young inexperienced quarterback. back

32:00

like Jordan Love, you've got to give him

32:02

loads of great weapons, they have not, or

32:05

give him loads of time. They've given him a good amount of

32:07

time and he's been making good decisions. But

32:11

this 49ers pass rush is different. This

32:13

49ers team is different. Like

32:15

I expected the Cowboys to win

32:17

comfortably against the Panthers. Not

32:19

only did they not, they were blown out.

32:22

That Packers performance was one for the ages in

32:24

terms of how satisfying that must have been to

32:27

Packers fans after starting the season two

32:29

and five and being written off by plenty of

32:31

people, including me. Not just at that

32:33

point in the season. I did not

32:35

predict them in the divisional playoffs when they were

32:37

two and five and looking awful. But

32:41

stopping this rush from

32:44

the 49ers, that now feels like a

32:47

step too far. And I'm sure Packers fans

32:50

are thinking, yeah, just keep doubting us. It's

32:53

worked out nicely. But I don't

32:58

see how they can deal with the 49ers team. I

33:00

don't see how they can deal with anything the 49ers

33:03

throw at them. And that is not a knock

33:05

on the Packers. It's the fact that the

33:07

49ers are the most complete team in football right

33:09

now. Green Bay, I think

33:12

they can keep this close. I think they can, they're going

33:15

to put up some points, but I think they are not

33:17

going to be able to really stop that

33:19

49ers offense. And there's obviously, you love

33:22

to have that bye week. The 49ers

33:24

had a week's rest. They

33:26

would have ended the season being able

33:28

to rest players. But the Packers are

33:31

just on such a roll. And I

33:33

know you'll always take that week off

33:36

and let your players rest. But

33:38

who is going into this round feeling

33:40

more confident? It's the agile question, right?

33:42

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whilst you have the

33:45

recuperation, sure. That's obviously a particularly for

33:47

some of the some of

33:49

the vets in the 49ers. So they're going

33:51

to get arms to back, for example, and

33:53

I reckon the rest, the bye has definitely

33:55

helped that. But yeah, then you've

33:57

got the momentum as I might would say, Oh, where

33:59

do you think in terms of the young quarterback match

34:03

up and the pressure on their shoulders who do

34:05

you fancy more to handle it or do you

34:07

think they'll both take it in their stride or

34:09

do you feel one is jumping

34:11

out and you think they could crack it

34:13

could crash and burn here? I

34:16

think they're gonna be both relatively comfortable but for completely

34:18

different reasons I think Jordan Love because they're playing Jordan

34:20

Love will be fine because he's playing with house money

34:22

even at this point they get blown out by the

34:24

San Francisco 49ers no one's gonna turn around and be

34:26

like is Jordan Love the right quarterback for the Green

34:28

Bay Packers next season even if he throws four interceptions

34:30

because of what he's done on this stretch

34:32

because what he's already done he's gone into Dallas's house

34:35

and he's won and he's blown them out and he's

34:37

playing incredibly well. That performance is the one that's gonna

34:39

live long in everyone's memory going into next season. If

34:41

they go into this game... It's a private deception game

34:43

here you never know. I still don't think they would

34:45

I don't think that would really play into it because you

34:47

would just say okay this was a step too far they're going

34:49

up again it's comfortably the best team in the NFC I think

34:51

everyone would be like this is this team's a wagon obviously the

34:53

49ers China has had LeFouler's

34:55

number for the majority of the past couple of

34:57

seasons as well so you start blaming on other

34:59

things I don't think Jordan Love has

35:01

got that much pressure going into it again nine and

35:04

a half point underdog he's already

35:06

beaten Dallas in Dallas if you go in here and

35:08

they get blown out they get blown out people are

35:10

still saying this Green Bay Packers team no pro bowlers

35:12

as I said on last week's podcast no

35:15

pro bowlers in this team they can only build and

35:17

now they're attractive place of free agents and it's gonna

35:19

be it's a positive start for the Green Bay Packers

35:21

and Jordan Love's career like they've had a great first

35:23

season. Brok Purdy I don't think is gonna necessarily feel

35:26

too much pressure largely just because of his enemies is

35:28

what me and Ben have said all season long when

35:30

you've got the weapons surrounding you when you've got the

35:32

players you can execute on offense surrounding you like Trent

35:34

Williams obviously is your left tackle when you've got George

35:37

Kitteler I think is gonna have a big game that's

35:39

one of my first prop bets just because the Green

35:41

Bay Packers can't cover over the middle their linebackers have

35:43

been shocking we saw that with Jake Ferguson obviously getting

35:45

a hat trick last week which I don't think anyone

35:47

had on their on their wild card. I

35:50

actually had Jake Ferguson score two touchdowns

35:52

at 14 to 1 which was delightful

35:55

but I wasn't expecting a hat trick.

35:57

Brok Purdy is so calm of course

36:00

Is it possible, Ben, that in 30 years' time

36:02

we're going to find out that he is the

36:04

first AI? We used

36:06

to joke, of course, about the Great Quarterback in

36:08

the Americana days. Are we going to find out

36:10

that Brock Potty is the first AI-driven

36:13

quarterback? If out

36:15

of any player in the league right now, he

36:18

would be the most likely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

36:21

efficient and sensible is decision-making. But here's a question

36:23

I want to put to the two of you,

36:25

in terms of the two quarterbacks on

36:27

display here. If the two

36:30

quarterbacks were on the opposite teams, would

36:32

you think the spread would be any different? No.

36:35

The spread's what, nine and a half? No, I don't think

36:37

it would. I think it would be identical. I think it

36:39

would be identical. And what does that say? I mean, you

36:41

know, you can read a lot into that. I think the

36:43

spread would be identical. Now, I don't

36:45

think we like... It's a great point, Ben. We like

36:47

the over on this. And when we

36:49

were discussing what our true locks were going to be, I said it

36:51

was on my shortlist. And you said it's on

36:53

yours as well. Are you going to take it? Is the over where

36:55

you're going to go? Yeah, the only thing I have is rain. There's

36:58

a little bit of rain and which is driving to San

37:00

Francisco. There is a bit of rain around and obviously we

37:02

saw Brock Purdie played in a rain game really struggled against

37:04

Cleveland Browns. But that is again is in Cleveland. It's going

37:06

to be a completely different care of

37:09

the fish. So I'm not necessarily steering away

37:11

from it. I think the Green Bay Packers be able to put

37:13

up points. I'm convinced that Jordan Love is

37:15

just rolling in this offense. He's executing exactly the

37:17

way LaFleur wants. If you say what's the difference

37:19

between Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love, I think it's

37:22

literally that. Jordan Love is just doing exactly what

37:24

LaFleur wants him to do. Whereas Rodgers went off

37:26

script the whole time. And I think that's playing

37:28

to the pack in favor this season. I think

37:31

Love will be able to execute. You don't know which receiver

37:33

he's going to be going to. I don't think they'll be

37:35

able to get as many as much success in the run,

37:37

but that lends itself towards the over anyway, because he's going

37:39

to have to be throwing the ball and he'll realistically also

37:42

be in a deficit because I genuinely think there's a chance

37:44

that the San Francisco 49ers put up about

37:46

40 points in this game. I think they could go

37:48

absolutely off. I think Christian McCaffrey could have 150 rushing

37:50

yards alone. I

37:52

think he could tear apart this Green Bay Run defense.

37:54

I think they look a little bit better than

37:57

they are this defense. I don't think Joe Barry's

37:59

suddenly fixed. overnight, I think the 49ers could go

38:01

off, I think Kittel could have a huge game,

38:03

whoever they line up in the slot, whether that's

38:05

Deebo Samuel or Brandon Ayuk, I think they could

38:07

have a big game and I just think these

38:09

weapons with the rest that they've had, CMC

38:12

will be absolutely

38:15

fuming that he didn't get more love for the MVP

38:17

award, so I think that I'm going to be giving

38:19

CMC a huge, huge game in this one and I

38:21

think the 49ers in the Green Bay Packers, I don't

38:23

think there's going to be a shootout but I could

38:25

see this being something like 35-20 with ease. Okay

38:30

I'm with you on that, I love the over, it's a

38:32

great pick Propo, I think you're going to be back to

38:34

winning ways with that. Ben, which way are you

38:36

going? What's your Drew Lock on? I'm going

38:38

to 49ers as my Drew Lock, I think they are

38:40

going to win by at least 10, that's not a

38:42

knock on the Packers, they've had a fantastic second half

38:44

of the season, Arrow is pointing

38:46

up, I mean if they can keep it

38:49

close against the 49ers and the Lions don't

38:51

look good and loose to the Bucks, then

38:53

I think people will be saying this is the Packers division now, you

38:56

know the Lions run at the top could

38:59

be short-lived in terms of people's perception but

39:01

I don't think the Packers are going to be able to, by

39:03

the time the second half is coming round I don't think

39:05

they can lay a glove on the 49ers, this 49ers team

39:07

is special and I'm just

39:10

thinking okay, who

39:12

can run them close in the Super Bowl because the

39:14

Packers are not going to get that close to them

39:17

on this weekend. Alright you're taking

39:19

the 49ers then to cover, I

39:22

like that as well, I think you're both on

39:24

point with that, I might well be taking a

39:26

bit of 49ers action but I'm definitely taking the

39:28

over. What game are we going to

39:31

give chat GPT into because I'm going to lean towards the

39:33

Chiefs Bills game as my Drew Lock, more of that in

39:35

a minute, so what should we give chat GPT to pick?

39:38

Let's give the Bucks Lions to chat GPT I think. Oh

39:40

nice, okay, let's give Bucks a try. I'll run it past

39:42

chat GPT right now. You're on it Ben, brilliant,

39:44

alright so if chat GPT is going to

39:46

take care of that game and incidentally like

39:48

I said the chat on Monday with I and

39:51

Mike that's in the vault and me and Shane

39:53

Breen, Scott McCabe as well, some brilliant insight from

39:55

Scott into the divisional round, they're both in the

39:57

vault. Let's talk Texas Ravens for a minute. the

40:00

line is big on that as well. Is it nine and a half

40:02

too well? Yeah it's nine and a half. What's

40:04

your take on whether the Ravens cover

40:06

comfortably because this is a Texas side

40:08

going in a bit banged up

40:11

of course. They're gonna have

40:13

they're gonna be short stacked in terms of

40:16

their offense but there's no Marlon Humphrey for the Ravens

40:18

that has been announced so

40:20

expect that Nico Collins is gonna

40:22

have a lot of one-on-one matchups without Humphrey

40:24

in that secondary as well so I'm guessing

40:26

that's gonna be something they're gonna look to

40:28

exploit the Texans. Do you see

40:30

a similar trajectory here that the Ravens are

40:34

gonna dominate the Texans are playing with house

40:36

money it's been a fairytale season doesn't really

40:38

matter what happens they've come this far or

40:40

do you think this might be closer than

40:42

that 49ers package matchup? I think you

40:45

can definitely see a game script which

40:47

ends up in the Ravens absolutely blowing

40:49

out the Houston Texans. As you said

40:51

the Houston Texans are banged up I

40:53

think we can say now with the Browns

40:55

performance last week the Ravens have the best

40:57

defense in the NFL from their performances leading

41:00

up to this game and obviously with that Marlon

41:02

Humphrey that has a big impact I think and

41:04

this is such an interesting one it's just how

41:07

much do you really read into the Lamar Jackson

41:09

playoff narrative I mean like he has struggled as

41:11

a as a favorite in the playoffs at home

41:13

playoffs he's one and three straight up against the

41:15

spread as well one and three as a home

41:18

favorite he's 15 and 23 against the

41:20

spread and on 12 plus

41:22

days rest he's one and six against the spread as

41:24

well this doesn't seem to be a trend match up. I've

41:27

got one more for you actually he's one and nine against

41:29

the spread when favorite feared

41:31

by seven points or more. Exactly

41:33

so like in terms of all the trends all

41:36

the trends seem to suggest that when Lamar Jackson's

41:38

in these spots when he is a heavy favorite

41:40

when the pressure is on him to win the

41:42

game and win the game comfortably that's when he

41:44

seems to underperform but at the same

41:47

time and people are comparing this team to

41:49

the 2019 Ravens obviously the last

41:51

time that Baltimore won sorry

41:53

when Lamar Jackson won the MVP but I think this

41:55

team is different I think that team I think Lamar

41:57

Jackson has developed as a quarterback I think he's you

42:00

all of these narratives around him

42:02

to improve. And everyone said, and I heard Mina Kimes

42:04

talking about it, made the great point that basically what

42:06

Tennessee did in that game when they beat them in

42:08

2019 after being like 40 point

42:11

underdogs or whatever it was, they basically just

42:13

covered over the middle and forced Lamar Jackson

42:15

to throw outside the numbers. And that's just

42:17

what he was unable to do. And that's

42:19

what he's developed this season. He's able to

42:21

throw outside the numbers. Zay Flowers with those

42:23

slant runs has been excellent in those situations.

42:25

So it means that like whatever you take

42:27

away from the Ravens now, when that used

42:29

to suggest that Jackson was quite one dimensional, he's

42:31

not like that anymore. He can adapt, this offense can

42:33

adapt. And I think this defense can adapt as well.

42:35

They're not one dimensional in any way. Whatever looks you're

42:37

giving them, they can adapt to try and stop them

42:40

and they can improve in the second half. That being

42:42

said, I think nine and a half points is a

42:44

lot considering that this is gonna be a weather game.

42:47

There's a high wind, it's about 50 mile an hour

42:49

winds, it's gonna be freezing cold. I think the Houston

42:51

Texans have one of the best run defenses in the

42:53

NFL. The only kind of asterisk to that is the

42:55

way they performed against the Colts. And obviously the Baltimore

42:57

Ravens are an elite run gamer now they've got Dalvin

42:59

Kirk. So who knows what Dalvin Kirk's gonna do. Well,

43:01

we called it, didn't we call Dalvin Kirk a

43:03

Super Bowl MVP on the show? I'm sure we

43:05

did. Yeah, we did, we did. But yeah. Do

43:08

you think that the battle on the lines with Will

43:11

Anderson and Greenard up

43:13

against this Ravens? And

43:16

of course, Andla Ma, who is elusive

43:19

at the best of times anyway to try and

43:21

pin him down and can get Adel out of

43:23

trouble. That's been a key

43:26

component of course, to the Ravens of the

43:28

Texas success this season. Do you see that

43:31

being less of an

43:33

edge against this Ravens side? See,

43:35

I love the Texans run defense

43:37

but the Ravens rush offense is

43:40

just built a bit differently and

43:43

they make those plays differently. It's not

43:45

a traditional running game, which

43:48

gives them a big advantage. But

43:51

that Texans defense is just so

43:53

good. And not enough has been, nothing that

43:55

has been said about it. They would, the

43:58

whole team performance. that was obviously the

44:01

first the first playoff game of the weekend. It

44:03

really set a tone of there

44:05

are bigger gaps than we think between some

44:07

of these teams and the Texans are a

44:09

really good team but whether

44:12

they can stop Lamar Jackson

44:14

on the move, whether they can bottle

44:17

up Gus Edwards and Dalvin Cook and

44:20

Lamar Jackson, I just don't see

44:22

it. I think this Texans

44:24

defense, as good as it is, it

44:26

is not a good matchup on paper

44:28

at least, especially in Baltimore where the

44:30

weather could get a bit interesting. I

44:35

will be taking the Texans at plus nine and a half in

44:37

this game I think. I think I want to take it close.

44:39

I think what the Houston Texans will also

44:41

be able to do, I'll take Singletary's rushing lines over

44:43

56 and a half rushing yards right now as well.

44:45

What Baltimore Ravens do allow you to do is run

44:47

on them, they're very much bend, don't break. I think

44:49

what they tried to do is they stop any explosive

44:51

plays which obviously could affect Nico Collins and CJ

44:54

Strada, the best in the NFL at stopping

44:56

big yardage being allowed against them. What they

44:58

do allow is four yards per carry. I

45:01

think Singletary's gone over this total in five

45:03

his last six games and the Ravens, since

45:06

week six they've allowed nearly 100 rushing yards per game

45:08

to running back to the second highest yards per carry

45:10

at 4.8. I said that the Ravens are the best

45:14

defense in the NFL, I believe that, but at the same time

45:16

they kind of allow you to run on

45:18

them because they just don't want to give up any

45:20

big yardage, they don't want to give up any big

45:22

gains. They'll let you run on them. I like Singletary's

45:24

rushing line over 56 and a half rushing yards. Yeah,

45:26

because he's looking sharp. God, he's a player we talked

45:28

about a lot. He has such a high ceiling if

45:30

he can get in a groove consistently. He looked good

45:32

against the Browns last time out. I

45:36

like that. I like that Singletary. Is he one of your prop bets? That's

45:39

one of my prop bets. Here's a stat for you both. I've got

45:41

a question for you. CJ Strada

45:43

is the youngest player at 22 years

45:45

and 96 days in NFL history to

45:47

lead the league in passing touchdown to

45:49

interception ratio in a season. Do you

45:52

know who the previous youngest was? I'm

45:54

going to say Mark Sanchez. Ben? What's

46:00

the start again? Leading the league in? Leading

46:02

the league. He's the youngest player to ever

46:04

lead the league in passing touchdown to interception

46:06

ratio in a season. Who was the previous

46:09

youngest? So who's he taking the record from?

46:12

Ben Rottelsberger? Arnie

46:14

Herber for the 1932 Packers. I

46:17

thought he would have got that. And he

46:20

had nine passing touchdowns and nine interceptions

46:22

and he led the league. He led

46:24

the league for that. That's amazing. Not

46:27

a high bar, but like said Baby Sharp is tall in our

46:29

box. No tank debt obviously.

46:31

No Noah Brown as well. I think that

46:33

is going to ultimately be too

46:35

much to keep up this

46:37

Texas. I do see a really similar trajectory

46:40

to the 49ers Packers game. I'm going to

46:42

take the Ravens to cover despite all

46:44

of that data in it. And it's brilliant research

46:47

proper there that you've outlined. But I

46:49

think the Ravens will run away with this in the end.

46:51

I think it will be interesting. I think now

46:53

lands some strikes at Texans. But I

46:56

think they'll run away with it. I'm done. I'm done.

46:58

After last week, I'm done betting against C.J. Stroud in

47:00

the playoffs. I like him too much. He's got that

47:02

borrow. He's got that borrow factor about him. He does. He's

47:04

just he's just a winner. And he's just I really like

47:06

if we're sitting here next week talking

47:10

about the Texans in the championship. Oh, my God. Surprise me. It

47:12

is. What is the prize? And

47:14

I think they can I think they can keep this close. I don't see

47:16

them beating the Ravens, but I can see them covering. OK.

47:19

All right. Even if they do keep it

47:21

close, the narrative around C.J. Stroud waking up

47:23

on Monday morning, as you said, we waking

47:25

up on Sunday morning is going to be

47:27

insane. If he manages to go strive for

47:29

Stryde with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore in

47:31

a playoff game, it's going to like

47:33

we're already praising him so much. And it's but it's

47:36

going to take off to another level. Stratus,

47:38

Farik, Stroud, as far right. Well,

47:40

what's that GPT saying, Ben? Oh,

47:43

boy, you don't even want to know. OK, so.

47:47

It's given the prediction of box

47:49

34, line 33. That

47:52

is painful. The actual score predictions for what? Where's

47:54

your secret? OK, 34, 33. Yeah,

47:58

but it's. I'm

48:01

going to quote here this paragraph. Yes,

48:03

my friend, a one point

48:05

victory in a game that will

48:08

be remembered as a rollercoaster of

48:10

excitement and unpredictability. The football gods

48:12

themselves look down in amazement at

48:14

this magical clash where each point

48:16

sprinkles stardust and every play

48:18

is a page in the

48:21

spellbinding story of the NFC

48:23

divisional playoff. Exclamation

48:25

mark, football emoji, star

48:27

emoji. Have

48:30

you taken chatgbt out drinking before the show?

48:33

I just feel like my brain

48:36

is like a supercomputer. I think lots of people have said

48:38

that. Or at least I've just said it. Well you're so

48:40

good at the pigs. So

48:42

yeah, maybe I've got chatgbt helping

48:45

me on the side but

48:47

not with these sort of predictions. So

48:49

yeah, that's pretty wild.

48:52

They said the lions will execute plays

48:54

with a flare that rivals Cirque du

48:56

Soleil. What? I

48:59

know. I can't wait

49:01

for this game. I don't think it could be. I don't think

49:03

it's too far away from the truth apart from I'm not sure

49:05

the Bucks are going to win it. Do

49:07

you like a shootout in that as well? Do

49:09

you like the open? I like a shootout but

49:11

I like to shoot out last week against the

49:14

Rams and there's obviously realistically are you really going

49:16

to bet on a shootout between the Bucks and

49:18

the Lions? Do you know what I mean? Are

49:20

you going to really bet on a shootout between

49:22

Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff? There is such a

49:24

high chance that either one or two of these

49:26

quarterbacks have a Baker Mayfield slash Jared

49:28

Goff game. Do you know what I mean? It's like,

49:30

and there's other things that I'll kind of lean towards.

49:32

I think I like over the Baker Mayfield passing yards.

49:35

I think the Detroit Lions are really good at stopping

49:37

and running. We saw that against the Rams last week. So I like Baker

49:39

Mayfield over 253 passing yards. My

49:43

true luck of the week is Mike Evans over 66 and a

49:45

half receiving yards. Like he had a poor game last week with

49:47

those drops. He's still a Hall of

49:49

Famer in my book. He's had an incredible season

49:51

and I think he deserves 100% to

49:53

go out if they do lose to the Lions.

49:56

Goes out swinging. I like him. Take

49:58

him up to 100 plus receiving yards. I think he could. destroy

50:00

this line secondary that obviously got completely and utterly

50:02

tortured by Pukunakura last week and I think my

50:04

Kevin's is gonna get loads of one-on-one matchups and

50:06

I don't see anyone in that secondary who can

50:08

match him. So I like my Kevin's to go

50:11

big here I also like very

50:13

much obviously top bowls is you're gonna blitz the

50:15

hell out of Jared Goff But Goff's decent against

50:17

the blitz, isn't he? Yeah, Goff

50:19

is 7 just shy of 75% against the blitz

50:25

In the last, ever his last five games that that's that

50:27

to be to be clear, right? But yeah,

50:29

he's been playing well against the blitz. This

50:31

stat surprised me Mayfield,

50:34

what do you think he is out of nine

50:37

passes thrown 20 plus yards

50:39

in the last couple of games. So they're obviously

50:41

the last regular season game and then the And

50:45

the wild card game both of which of

50:47

course the Bucs needed to win Out

50:50

of 920 yard plus a big deep deeper passes.

50:52

What do you think? How many is he completed?

50:55

I Think

50:58

percentage or number not only my cup too early

51:00

for percentage. Yes, you may give me a Sorry,

51:03

there was that how many nine? One

51:07

seven one bad. That

51:09

is red. Oh, yeah one of nine Really?

51:13

Yeah, it's gonna be low. I was confident. It

51:15

was gonna be low. Yeah, but I thought I

51:17

just I just have so many What's

51:20

your address? To Mike

51:22

Evans that really does surprise me. Yeah, I

51:24

was I was really surprised with that one

51:26

of five against the Eagles So that was

51:28

that was it didn't hit any Hit

51:31

any of the week before so, okay. I Love

51:34

the Lions in this And it makes

51:36

my life easy because much as I much

51:38

as I revere the great bacon Mayfield and in

51:40

all series I love I love what he's done.

51:43

We've talked about that a lot. We know I

51:45

can't back him I've gone back the box citizen

51:47

Fitz dez-er-Ejorosh commandment and that tears

51:49

me up inside at times But this week no

51:52

problem at all. I think the lines are rolling rolling

51:54

to the championship game. I think they cover as well What

51:57

is it right now? Six and a half six and

51:59

a half? Yeah I think they cover keeps under

52:01

a touch then I'm gonna take the lines to cover one I've

52:03

been going back and forth, but I'm with you in the lines.

52:05

I think I feel confident they'll win But I don't like that

52:07

line. I think it's gonna end up a bit a

52:09

bit closer I think I kind of if to

52:12

me it stinks of like back book backdoor cover

52:14

from the box Yeah,

52:17

yeah, yeah, okay. We're all in in

52:19

agreement on that remember that gang because

52:22

we come to our come

52:24

to our acha It's time for my drew lock of the

52:26

week and as I said a little

52:28

bit earlier. I'm gonna go To

52:30

the Chiefs Bills games another Mahomes

52:32

Allen matchup of course the first Road

52:35

game in the playoffs in in

52:37

Patrick Mahomes is life What

52:43

But that is that is

52:45

interesting Mahomes when

52:47

he's an underdog Well,

52:49

that doesn't happen too much. You've seen this one. Oh,

52:51

yeah Well, I just we use this all the time

52:53

to be fair we do and this

52:55

is the first time I'll ever be disagreeing with this Oh,

52:58

okay. So he's eight one and one against the

53:01

spread when he is an underdog

53:03

look I really like

53:05

the Chiefs in this spot and I'll

53:07

tell you why the bills as we know

53:11

Properly banged up they were banged up

53:13

going in to last week's game and

53:16

it has taken a lot out of them as well

53:18

so we're recording this Friday morning, right

53:20

and There is as

53:23

the latest game of this slate. There

53:25

is obviously a chance that Certain

53:28

players will come back but particularly in the

53:30

defense Dodson didn't play last

53:32

time Bernard went out as well looking

53:35

at the looking at the

53:37

latest Injury reports

53:39

you've got oh Still

53:43

so many players on the did not

53:45

practice or limited practice. So Toron Johnson

53:47

Bristol Douglas Taylor

53:49

wrapped the strong safety There

53:51

will be mad at Milano, of course in that middle

53:54

for much of the season spectre as well

53:56

He's one of the backup backers. They are

53:59

properly banged up there. Plus there's

54:01

talk that Gabe Davis is injured

54:03

as well. I feel that this

54:05

is an area where

54:07

the Chiefs and Pacheco can particularly

54:09

exploit. That game last

54:13

week felt as

54:15

though the Chiefs

54:17

were starting to reconcile a little

54:19

bit offensively because

54:21

you had Kelsey with seven

54:24

catches, Pacheco was rolling

54:26

on the ground as well, Rasche Rice

54:28

is really establishing himself as the go-to

54:30

guy which then opens up eventually surely

54:33

it cannot be another game where none

54:35

of the other receivers do anything. None

54:38

of the others last week got

54:40

anything close to the

54:42

names I mentioned but two receptions I think. I

54:45

don't think anyone picked up to you outside

54:47

of those three names. The

54:49

most drops in the league it's got to change.

54:52

It has to change. You've got to

54:54

just statistically logic

54:56

prevails. They will get some productivity

54:58

from the supporting cast as

55:00

well and I think particularly given the

55:04

injury flaws in this bills

55:06

lineup I don't see how

55:09

they can keep them at bay and

55:11

I'm really surprised that there hasn't

55:13

been more money coming in on the Chiefs. So what is it

55:16

right now or two and a half? Yeah the

55:18

line's at two and a half and it's kind of been

55:20

going between two and a half and three people are taking

55:22

the bills when it's at two and a half and taking

55:24

the Chiefs. It's a bit of a pro-Joe split. A lot

55:26

of the Joes are on the Chiefs and a lot of

55:28

the pros are on the Buffalo Bills. That's where

55:31

I like to be as you all know. Yeah it's

55:33

been a good year for the Joes. It has been.

55:35

I mean I'm always with my homes in underdog spots

55:37

in the majority of the time but my only fear

55:39

going into this one is just

55:42

from what I've seen this season the amount of times

55:44

I've thought the Chiefs were back and I just still

55:46

think this offense is somewhat extent broken. Now that could

55:48

be counteractive Pacheco has a huge game it's obviously going

55:50

to be in Buffalo. The weather the elements are going

55:52

to be against him and if Pacheco can really

55:55

run against his bills defense which I think he has

55:57

all of the trades that could exploit them then obviously

55:59

that's set. out perfectly and takes all the pressure

56:01

off my homes where he doesn't have to force his

56:04

throws to go to certain receivers. But I think

56:06

obviously as you said if they if their linebackers

56:08

are banged up obviously that plays straight into the

56:10

hands of Travis Kelsey. If they don't have some

56:13

of their corner backs it looks like Richard Douglas is going

56:15

to be back for this game though from what I can

56:17

read which is obviously huge and they should do to Rishi

56:19

Rice what the Dolphins should have done

56:21

last week. I don't know why they didn't just put Jelen

56:23

Ramsey on Rishi Rice. I think that would have had a

56:26

major impact because again like he clearly

56:28

is the number one in this offense and why won't

56:30

you try and take him away because I still don't

56:32

think Pat trusts anyone else particularly like Justin Watson seems

56:34

to be the number two receiver at this moment in

56:36

time which I think says a lot and I just

56:39

think that with Josh Allen being able to

56:41

run the ball the way that

56:43

he did last week and what he's done in kind

56:45

of this postseason stretch which you can call it because

56:47

they basically had play in games throughout I think with

56:49

his legs he'll have a major one. I think this

56:51

is the time where Buffalo can kind of stamp their

56:53

authority on this Can-Seats Chiefs team and I think this

56:55

Chiefs team is still vulnerable. I still think this offense

56:57

is vulnerable. I still don't think it's close to where

56:59

it's been in previous seasons and I think that when

57:01

you're getting below a field goal I was always going

57:03

to take the team who was below a field goal

57:05

in this. If it was three and a half I'd

57:07

take the Chiefs but it's two and a half so

57:10

I'm going to take the Bills. Definite vulnerability for sure

57:12

and my argument is predicated on upside from the supporting

57:14

cards which I've been calling for a long time and of

57:16

course the Andy Reid playoff factor

57:18

dialing stuff up. I think it's a push

57:20

when you look at the Maverick play extension

57:22

X Factor like we saw Allen of course

57:24

in the wild card round creating something out

57:27

of nothing. That's basically

57:29

a push. It's

57:32

tilting the way I'm going or leading the way I'm

57:34

going I should say because of the injuries and I

57:36

think there are too many of them. I think even

57:38

if players are sitting up they're going to be banged

57:40

up. I think they can as you say

57:42

Kelsey's going to have a big game but Cheka's going to have

57:44

a big game. I like him to take it. I'm taking

57:48

the Chiefs plus the points. It's my Droulok of the week.

57:50

Ben, which way are you going on this? Watching

57:53

the Chiefs last week against Miami I thought

57:55

okay it's these Chiefs. It's

57:57

the playoff Chiefs. It's the good ones. But

58:00

on the other hand, they've spent all season showing us

58:02

who they are. Yeah. And that they have looked unreliable

58:06

and not their usual self. This

58:08

feels very close to a pick. Um,

58:12

I just, despite the injuries,

58:14

I gotta go, I've got

58:16

to go bills. Although I do like, I

58:18

do like the bet for Josh Allen to throw

58:21

an interception. Which

58:23

is, I think almost guaranteed to happen. I think this

58:26

is the one where finally Josh Allen and the bills

58:28

get over the hump. Get themselves

58:30

past the divisional round. I think they've gone out

58:32

in the last three. Um,

58:34

whereas the chiefs have won the last

58:36

five divisional round games. This would be this, this is the

58:38

chief. It's the chief's win. It's

58:40

their sixth consecutive AFC championship game, which is

58:42

a pretty wild run. But

58:45

I think it ends here. Okay. We disagree

58:47

on quite a lot, which, um, which

58:49

is going to make for a frisky episode next week. And I

58:51

should also point out, um, our

58:53

picks contest, right? This is our

58:56

overall win or lose picks

58:58

contest rolling throughout the season. I

59:00

do. You know what? Ben would do all of this situation. If,

59:03

if Ben was, Ben would, Oh, remind me what the,

59:05

uh, remind me what the score is. But

59:07

he said, Oh, that's, that's pretty good. Isn't it? Well,

59:10

he said that the other week about, about his picks

59:12

record, but yes, I am. I'm, I'm ahead now. I

59:14

had a bit of a, yeah. Yeah. Good week. Last

59:16

week. I had a shocker week last week going with

59:19

the, although the Eagles bucks game, like the

59:21

Eagles that you would just, the problem is you're picking it

59:23

again with the bill's chief's game. If it comes out, that

59:25

injury report comes out on Sunday and the bills are completely

59:27

decimated. Yeah. And do you know what I mean? That's where

59:29

it's tough to make that pick on a third. And it's

59:32

the same with the Eagles. You know what I mean? Like

59:34

they were just broken when that thing came out. So,

59:36

uh, we'll push the graphic out in terms of where we're

59:38

at, but it's still, there's still a chance you can still

59:40

get, get into it, but I'm, uh, I'm doing all right

59:42

with those straight up picks. Speaking of straight up picks, that's

59:45

where we'll go next with our, our money

59:47

line, Akka. So what do we agree on? My memory is

59:49

short term fish. Like, uh, did we

59:51

say we're going to do three teams? I think we've got

59:53

to do, I mean, it's pretty obvious, isn't it? It's going to be the

59:55

Ravens, the Niners and the Niners and the

59:58

Lions. It's pretty obvious. Yeah. it

1:00:00

done. That's not a surprise at all.

1:00:02

That's not a, it's not bold in

1:00:05

any way. Yeah, exactly. Surprise, surprise.

1:00:07

Well done for tuning in for that analysis,

1:00:09

everyone. What an absolutely deathly death. All three

1:00:11

are going to lose now. I love that.

1:00:13

Propo, any more Probets? You've been weaving them

1:00:15

in throughout the course of the show anymore?

1:00:19

Just going back to that Tampa Bay Detroit Lions game, I

1:00:21

think that's one to fill your boots in when it comes

1:00:23

to Probets. You'll see that when it comes to my DraftKings

1:00:25

team, like I think Ammon

1:00:27

Rasson-Brown could have a huge game. I think Sam LaPorta getting back

1:00:29

to full fitness. I think he could have a huge game going

1:00:32

up against this Tampa Bay defense. Again, they struggle

1:00:34

when it comes to defending passes over the middle.

1:00:36

And I think Jared Goff will rely on

1:00:39

his tight ends and his star and Ammon Rasson-Brown.

1:00:41

Basically, you've got two teams who are really good

1:00:43

at stopping the run and horrendous at stopping the

1:00:45

pass, which means just lends itself to Probets, lends

1:00:47

itself to an entertaining game. So that's where I

1:00:49

think you can fill your boots with that one.

1:00:51

Elsewhere, as I said, I like Kittles have a

1:00:53

big game for the 49ers. I like CMC to

1:00:55

have a big game for the 49ers.

1:00:58

And then looking down at the Baltimore

1:01:00

Ravens, Houston Texans game, whichever

1:01:02

tight end starts. If Andrew's plays, I'll look

1:01:04

for Andrew's. Good

1:01:07

point, actually. Andrew's a bit iffy at the moment. We're talking

1:01:09

about recording this. He's less trending, less like to start, isn't

1:01:11

he? Yeah. But I think if he doesn't play, which I

1:01:13

think is most likely, I think I'll fill my boots with

1:01:15

those likely stuff. It's a good week. It's another good week.

1:01:17

I had a great tight end last week. I think it's

1:01:19

another good week for tight ends. These defenses seem

1:01:21

to allow a lot of passes over the middle. And we've got

1:01:24

a lot of great tight ends on this weekend.

1:01:26

So those would be kind of my major focuses when it

1:01:28

comes to the Probets. Is your

1:01:30

DraftKings team just made up of tight ends? Pretty

1:01:33

much. I'll do my DraftKings team now because

1:01:35

it's Sunday. Because

1:01:43

we're going to have contests for Saturday and Sunday. That's how

1:01:45

it rolls in the playoffs, of course. And I do like

1:01:47

playoff fantasy, daily fantasy. It kind

1:01:50

of narrows the field, obviously. I do like

1:01:52

it. And you've got to gamble on a

1:01:54

couple of this wildly maverick bets to create

1:01:57

that separation, right? Or picks to create that

1:01:59

separation. So... Have you got anyone like who's your

1:02:01

most left field pick? Justin Watson

1:02:03

for the Kansas City Chiefs. I love that. Exactly right. Yeah.

1:02:05

Yeah. Yeah, must be good value, right? Was he like three?

1:02:07

Yeah, he's nothing. Yeah, yeah. He's literally less. He's about 3200,

1:02:09

3300 going to this one. But

1:02:13

basically you can see the game scripts I'm predicting.

1:02:15

I'm expecting it like and it's weird to say

1:02:18

this. I think there's Lions. Lions

1:02:20

versus Bucks is going to be a bit of a shootout.

1:02:22

I think that's going to be real. I'm much more in

1:02:24

the passing game. Whereas I think because the Chiefs tend to

1:02:26

be vulnerable against the run. I think the

1:02:29

Buffalo Kansas City game isn't going to be about the

1:02:31

quarterbacks as much. It's going to be about the ground

1:02:33

game. So I've got Jared Goff as my quarterback, James

1:02:35

Cook and Isaiah Pacheco as my running backs. And then

1:02:37

I've got Mike Evans, who I think can have a

1:02:39

ridiculously big game. Aaron Ross and Brown, who I think

1:02:41

can have a ridiculously big game in the team. Justin

1:02:43

Watson is my kind of left field play when it

1:02:45

comes to the Kansas City Chiefs game. I just think

1:02:47

he is the second wide receiver for the Chiefs. There's

1:02:49

a chance I'm just playing that potential of him

1:02:51

being able to get a touchdown. I've already made

1:02:53

the case of Sam La Porta. He is my

1:02:55

tight end. And then we're just going to keep

1:02:57

playing him until it comes off. Jamison Williams is

1:03:00

going to get at some point a 67 yard

1:03:02

touchdown, I think, in this playoffs. And Tampa

1:03:04

Bay Buccaneers is one of the worst teams

1:03:06

against deep passes in the NFL. He's just

1:03:08

got to catch it. Just catch it. It

1:03:11

sounds like my argument for back of the

1:03:13

Chiefs. I could definitely put my own fantasy

1:03:15

team together, which I've entered into the league.

1:03:17

And again, if we win anything with that,

1:03:19

it's not the official show team Propos doing that. Confidently,

1:03:23

or encouraging, I should say, I've

1:03:25

got Gough and White as well.

1:03:28

And Amorosa Brown. And I've got Kaderius Toni.

1:03:30

I've got Kaderius Toni for 3-2. Come

1:03:33

on, Kaderius. Just a feeling of he's got to do

1:03:35

something at some point. Can you not see Kaderius Toni?

1:03:39

Two touchdowns, but it just

1:03:41

pops in the division. Why? Because

1:03:44

of the offside. Kaderius Toni,

1:03:46

Super Bowl MVP odds. I

1:03:48

think it's more likely for this game, though. It's going

1:03:50

to be for this game because it's the narrative of

1:03:52

the offside, isn't it, from that game when he won

1:03:54

a full touchdown. Of course, yeah. It's the Kaderius Toni

1:03:56

revenge game. He hilarious if he can get in the

1:03:58

game again. 175

1:04:01

yards, two touchdowns, he

1:04:03

scores a touchdown in the Super Bowl and then next

1:04:05

season he scores two touchdowns and that's it. Exactly, yeah

1:04:07

yeah yeah that's it, I love it. A Canarius Tony

1:04:09

might become my favorite player ever. Sorry, were there more?

1:04:11

I think I just completely crashed. No no that's it,

1:04:14

it's just the Chiefs defense I went for just because

1:04:16

I think they've got, because as you said I think

1:04:18

Josh Allen could turn the ball over. Love

1:04:20

it, all right, that is that a big

1:04:22

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