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Maybe we've never Fox News and Cnn

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news Conscientious objector. I'm a former Libertarian

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who now sits comfortably on the left.

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Hi I'm Danielle Moody, former educator

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and were covering lobbyist. But today

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I'm an unapologetic woke a commentator

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on America's threats to democracy. And

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I'm producer Jesse Canada and I'm here to

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make sure things don't go too far off

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the rails. We're here to have fun and

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smart conversations with some of the most knowledgeable

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and entertaining people in politics, media, and beyond.

1:01

Our goal is to try and

1:03

make sense of our current crazy

1:05

world, our new abnormal and hopefully

1:08

even make you laugh through the

1:10

tears. Wouldn't Excellent show Rio Bravo

1:12

Sir Keto as the President and Ceo

1:14

of Glad to Just talk about her

1:16

organizations efforts to counter the anti Lgbtq

1:19

plus message and many right wing politicians

1:21

have leaned into that. The former editor

1:23

at the Chicago Tribune in Chicago Sun

1:26

Times, Walter Murch Jacob what's also all

1:28

about a Pc? recently published on this

1:30

sub start stop the Presses about how

1:33

journalists in the media in general seem

1:35

board covering the upcoming election. But first

1:37

let's have some for Danielle. Finally

1:40

someone has given Donald Trump

1:42

or break. And

1:46

who has been besieged on

1:49

all sides. Finally catches a

1:51

break and I'm talking of

1:53

course about a New York

1:55

Appeals court that lowered the

1:58

bond that he has. Give

2:00

in order to appeal his case from

2:02

four hundred fifty four million dollars to

2:04

one hundred and seventy Five million dollars.

2:06

And they also gave him. As you

2:08

may recall, we thought Monday March Twenty

2:10

Cents was gonna be the day that

2:12

is. James kid starred as he starts

2:14

process of seizing Trump's assets. if he

2:17

didn't come up with duty foreigners do

2:19

for a million dollars to appeal the

2:21

decision against him. but the judges in

2:23

addition to lowering that join and seventy

2:25

five million dollars have given him an

2:27

extra ten days to come up with

2:29

that money. So. Let's get into

2:31

this because you know where up

2:33

a point where our society, our

2:35

power structure is. To blame

2:37

for allowing Donald Trump to get away

2:39

with everything he has and and they

2:41

seem to have learned know lessons from

2:44

this. I have heard lawyers who who

2:46

I believe and people who I respect

2:48

say that lets his decision is not

2:51

unusual. This is the kind of thing

2:53

that happens an hour at my response

2:55

that now as I don't care because

2:57

Trump is unusual and and needs to

3:00

be stopped and the fact that our

3:02

legal system is basically being the had

3:04

to fascism by allowing him to. Constantly

3:07

and consistently get away with sit.

3:09

It has to stop. Daniel. When

3:12

the news came out I just wanted

3:14

to throw up my hands and to

3:16

on my phone and you know I'll

3:18

say what one of. Our for my

3:20

gas. The plan: Karsner. Has tweeted sandwiches

3:23

quote The verdict is in the

3:25

rules. The laws and the constitution

3:27

do not apply to Donald Trump

3:29

the way they apply to you

3:32

and me like that's just sits.

3:34

No one can convince me fucking

3:36

otherwise. And to to your point

3:38

of saying oh well this is

3:41

not unusual. it is only use

3:43

all that expensive, a racist homophobe,

3:45

a transform a Xena for a

3:47

massage units, a man that has

3:50

been found guilty of sexual. Assaults

3:52

and great Seeing that is

3:54

the Republican nominee. I'm tired

3:56

of every one trying to

3:58

think that the. Be a

4:00

bigger adults in the room. And

4:03

somehow that it's going to prove

4:05

what point exactly that once again

4:07

Donald Trump, White Miss. Wealth and

4:09

connections and power are the currency.

4:12

And for everybody else that doesn't

4:14

have those same swell go with

4:16

God because our justice system doesn't

4:19

give a fuck about you. It's

4:21

absurd. To me it is absolutely

4:23

absurd and over it. And when

4:25

I realized is that on top

4:28

of media on top of the

4:30

justice system Tommy where. Everything

4:32

is not in cahoots for a

4:34

Trump win in November, but honestly,

4:37

tell me where we see any

4:39

fucking lies at the end of

4:42

the tunnel. That isn't just the

4:44

oncoming train or Trump Administration. Two

4:46

point. oh step, by the way,

4:49

won't ever fucking least I don't

4:51

understand where how things are set

4:53

up anymore and I think that

4:56

if the goal is to just

4:58

create a never ending vortex of

5:01

hopelessness, despair, anger, And Greece

5:03

then success. Job well

5:05

done. Job well done. Yet it

5:07

is almost impossible to be overly

5:09

cynical about this stuff at this

5:11

point. It's not his decision today.

5:13

it's Merrick Garland slow walking other

5:15

cases against him and you know

5:17

you use the word conspire and

5:19

I guess I won't go. I

5:22

do. You didn't mean that literally

5:24

or in the of it's a

5:26

conspiracy by it really does feel

5:28

like whether they're all acting independently

5:30

or not and I believe they're

5:32

all acting independently. but they all

5:34

sort. Of seem to have the

5:36

same goal, and that is to

5:39

sort of tiptoe around everything that

5:41

Donald Trump has done, some defrauding

5:43

investors from defrauding the government all

5:45

the way up to planning a

5:48

coup against the United States, and

5:50

we have to sit here and

5:52

act like everything he's done is

5:55

sort of. Whites are, well, as

5:57

in the normal bounds of behavior.

6:00

We have to treat him like we

6:02

would any other person in America and

6:04

are outside years is. I might have

6:06

agreed with that. I don't agree with

6:08

that anymore does This guy is so

6:10

obviously a clear and present danger to

6:13

America? And the fact that we are

6:15

treating him as if he's not? A

6:17

couple of cookies out the jar at

6:19

three in the morning and it owed

6:21

Donald's It's reprehensible. I'm over it. But

6:24

we have said as many times on

6:26

this part before. but I am over

6:28

Merrick Garland. I don't know. That I

6:30

was ever under him. But I'm definitely

6:33

before we increasingly over him. Now for

6:35

slow walking ship and for these judges

6:37

who now allow him to secure a

6:39

bond that he let's be honest I'm

6:42

assuming he will be able to secure

6:44

on and seventy five million dollar bond

6:46

as opposed to a half billion dollar

6:49

bond. everything is conspiring to either let

6:51

him walk or push all these trials

6:53

back and until after the election at

6:55

which point he will able to make

6:58

them completely That here's something. That I

7:00

that I I wanna say sale because

7:02

there is a piece that came out

7:05

in the New Yorker that was entitled

7:07

the Forgotten History of Hitler's Establishment and

7:09

may boulerice and I tell people that

7:11

if you have not read this sets

7:14

and new book on Hitler for that

7:16

is out. What I will say is

7:18

that the way that the author of

7:21

the peace, Adam Gopnik weaves down the

7:23

way that the enabler is of Hitler

7:25

all thought that they would be able

7:28

to hold on to power. Fast.

7:30

A capitalist structure would stay

7:32

together that all would be

7:34

well. And then they fucked

7:36

around and they found out

7:38

it's Wild Splitters. When you

7:40

read it, it is literally

7:42

like you are reading from

7:44

a headline from today where

7:46

you have a judge is

7:48

the bankers, the pollsters, the

7:50

politicians, the establishment. all of

7:52

these people telling themselves and

7:54

the world that all will

7:56

be fine if Donald Trump

7:58

is elected. Again, Andy. What

8:01

I realize is that when we

8:03

say on this show and others

8:05

that like oh my God Donald

8:07

Trump is a threat to everything

8:09

that we now know he's actually

8:11

not a threat to the billionaires.

8:14

To. The Billionaire class. He's not a

8:16

threat to the wealthy. He's not a

8:18

threat to the white. He's not a

8:20

threat to those that are already in

8:22

power because they perceive him as being

8:24

one of them. It won't be. Until

8:27

he has absolute power that they

8:29

had given him. That. Then

8:32

they will realize that he doesn't give

8:34

a fuck about them either and that

8:36

they too are not safe. But they

8:38

were fine when it was just the

8:40

black and brown and the poor and

8:42

the middle class and the marginalize in

8:44

a queer and see disable that he

8:46

was going after. But once they com

8:48

for him as the palm goes it'll

8:50

be too late. But.

8:52

They all have this sick sense.

8:55

Of entitlement and say

8:57

see. That. Does not exist

8:59

when you turn power over to a dictator.

9:02

So. I just I really I

9:04

don't know. but away what I

9:06

see is you know all of

9:09

these little pieces common up. You

9:11

know about Hitler and not just

9:13

him, but the infrastructure. That.

9:16

Allowed him. To

9:18

have the rain that he did

9:20

to commit the murder that he did.

9:22

We never really go after and

9:24

look with us with a magnifying

9:26

glass that those people it's always just

9:29

the man. But I'm telling you

9:31

Donald Trump would not have gotten to

9:33

this point if not for the

9:35

establishment in every agency in every industry

9:37

that has been holding him. Up

9:39

our next door. He falls right

9:42

into place there. and that's talking

9:44

about Nbc News firing former Republican

9:46

National Committee Chair Runner Mcdaniel as

9:49

a contributor apparently for I believe

9:51

it was reported three hundred thousand

9:53

dollars a year. This is a

9:56

woman who helped Donald Trump push

9:58

his election theories. The election

10:00

was stolen in Twenty twenty Thought this

10:02

is a woman who up until at

10:05

least you know a few days ago,

10:07

had absolutely nothing bad to say about

10:09

Donald Trump. And she's been a handmade

10:11

to Donald Trump and to Trump isms

10:13

and to the creeping fascism that we're

10:16

seeing this country and Nbc News which

10:18

by the way or not that long

10:20

ago laid off a whole bunch of

10:22

journalists, had decided that they needed to

10:24

pay her three hundred thousand dollars to

10:27

get her dumb ass opinions on their

10:29

air. As an. End and against

10:31

you You are hiring someone who

10:33

is an inveterate liar or really

10:35

as as a news organization. Why

10:37

in the world would you do

10:39

that? What is that possible reason

10:41

for doing this and using get

10:43

into this more Danielle But is

10:45

Chuck Todd can be roused from

10:48

his softball game. It is softball

10:50

lies to actually come out and

10:52

me statement Saying that this was

10:54

a really bad move by Nbc.

10:56

That's how bad this is. Daniel.

10:58

You're absolutely right and like the

11:00

we say in L, a broken

11:03

clock can be right twice a

11:05

day. as it is a rare

11:07

it is a rare times when

11:10

I can agree with sap Todd

11:12

and satire gives the hard it's

11:14

a read on television ever to

11:16

get out on this on this

11:19

topic which is a revolving door

11:21

of Trump, his mother bullshit earth

11:23

who leaves his administration who leaves

11:25

Marla Dell and are welcomed with

11:28

open. Arms into mainstream media either.

11:30

One of the things that I

11:32

kept saying during the Trump Administration

11:34

lists default. None of these people

11:36

sit debt jobs after that. None

11:39

of them. Not the fucking press

11:41

secretaries. Not like the lowly fuck

11:43

an intern and staff. If you

11:45

have Trump Administration on your resume,

11:47

you should be as good as

11:50

done. But that's not how mainstream

11:52

media as. They've. Hired

11:54

person after person you had fucking

11:56

Sean Spicer on Dancing With the

11:59

Stars. A band that

12:01

is called a Rehabilitation Campaign. Oh hey,

12:03

I was out on the fringes, but

12:05

let me be normalized back into your

12:08

living room. And still for

12:10

the folks insider Nbc news who

12:12

far from their anger is to

12:14

their personality see the other people

12:16

that are they are just what

12:18

are you fucking kidding me? But

12:21

how do I even pretend to

12:23

be a real journalists at a

12:25

news outlets And this is the

12:27

horses that you're driving in and

12:29

parts of Tied to Say on

12:31

Air that their bosses needed to

12:33

have apologized. For Kristen Welker

12:36

for putting her in the position

12:38

where now this woman. One.

12:40

And piano was paid three hundred thousand

12:42

dollars. And let me just add this

12:45

on because yet another friend of the

12:47

show, Kurt Bardella had tweeted Majority of

12:49

the people of color that you see

12:52

I'm These cable news shows are not

12:54

stepping pay Yeah, they are not paid

12:56

and they are to And they are

12:59

smart and they are thoughtful and their

13:01

analysis is needed in these times and

13:03

they are told time and time again

13:05

by establishment that there's no money in

13:08

the budget for that. But if you.

13:10

Are lying piece of fucking shit.

13:12

So long as you are white

13:15

and you are a republican, My

13:17

God does the money flow? Remember.

13:19

This is the same ownership that

13:21

led many. Hassan walk a guy

13:24

who is widely considered to be

13:26

one of the best interviewers armed

13:28

you know on T V and.

13:31

They let him walk by months later

13:33

say then give money and air time

13:35

to run or Mcdaniel of all people,

13:38

I don't even care how this works

13:40

out. Why did may deter the point

13:42

where and Bc has to do no

13:45

good. Added his contract somehow because there's

13:47

a remote from the people working there,

13:49

etc. It doesn't matter. proceed, want because

13:51

of that happens. Guess what? She becomes

13:54

our hero. She becomes a victim of

13:56

woke as he gets to go out

13:58

and give speeches. And the

14:01

only get paid to talk about how

14:03

she got cancelled by woke or whatever

14:05

dumfries are using. Now you know when

14:07

it went to look for I know

14:09

they'll blame it on d I A

14:11

or the or whatever bugaboo they've got

14:14

up there asked this week so it's

14:16

like the damage is already done. even

14:18

if they never use or even if

14:20

they just pay her salary and never

14:22

use her aren't any shows. the damage

14:25

is done to their credibility as as

14:27

net loss and damage is done to

14:29

her credibility. Because she gets a net

14:31

gain, there is absolutely no reason to bring

14:33

someone like Run a Mcdaniel aren't. As you

14:36

said, all of these people who served in

14:38

the Trump Administration should be persona non grata

14:40

at any kind of news organization. Let them

14:42

go work for. Let them go get a

14:44

job at Newsmax or Away and you know,

14:47

or Fox News a news organization that's not

14:49

really news organizations, but some go work there.

14:51

As we were saying before we went to

14:53

S who is this for even like food

14:56

is N B C think said they were

14:58

doing this for the millions of. Magar

15:00

viewers who watch Msnbc who watches and

15:02

B C News and says to themselves

15:05

you know I really need to see

15:07

what run A Mcdaniel thinks about this.

15:09

I don't think that anybody and

15:11

run a Mcdaniels families looks at

15:13

her and says you know I

15:15

will always see what the fuck

15:17

see thanks to the woman got

15:19

rid of her name laugh because

15:21

Donald Trump told us he didn't

15:23

like it. So you know where

15:25

her allegiance is. see chopped up

15:27

a part of her mom. And

15:30

so you're going to bring her online

15:32

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17:03

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17:06

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17:08

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17:11

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17:13

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17:15

people receive is fair is

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accurate, and it is a

17:20

narrative that is respectful. And

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thoughtful and expand said about

17:25

the community. Sarah Caped it

17:27

is wonderful to have you.

17:29

I want to give you

17:31

the opportunity to tell folks

17:34

a bit about the work

17:36

that you and Glad had

17:38

been doing as the last

17:40

couple of years for the

17:42

Lgbtq community. Not great. Ah,

17:45

I've reported it on here.

17:47

There's been over five hundred

17:49

anti Lgbtq spills that we

17:51

have. Seen passed around the

17:53

countries, particularly those that are

17:56

targeting trans youth. For trans

17:58

youth athletes. All bubbling out

18:01

of Florida and with the don't

18:03

say gay bill and then just

18:05

spreading like wildfire. So how has

18:08

glad been able to kind of

18:10

respond to this moment of have

18:12

considerable pushback? Well, hi Danielle and

18:15

thank you so much for having

18:17

me a spin a pretty content

18:19

few years of. There's no doubt

18:22

about that, and I think what

18:24

we've been doing is mobilizing our

18:26

resources, especially with the attacks on

18:28

the trans community. When you

18:31

look at Holy In America,

18:33

about thirty percent of Americans

18:35

say they know someone who's

18:37

trans. Which means Seventy percent

18:39

of Americans are getting your

18:42

information from the media on

18:44

the transgender and gender nonconforming

18:46

community. And right now the

18:48

media has been a lot

18:50

of politicians who are using

18:52

the community as a wedge

18:55

issue to bolster their careers

18:57

and create fear and trying

18:59

get elected. Or raise money.

19:01

And so our job at

19:03

Glad has been to counter

19:05

that narrative to inoculate that

19:07

narrative and focus on the

19:09

folks who are most vulnerable

19:11

for that narrative in the

19:14

country. Especially a population when

19:16

we're talking about the elections

19:18

because this is all being

19:20

done in the benefit of

19:22

the elections. And so what.

19:24

We look at our women

19:26

who have school age children

19:28

and and older folks in

19:30

the country says Sixty Plus,

19:32

Those are the folks that

19:34

are the most vulnerable to

19:37

this misinformation. And. Fear mongering.

19:39

And so what we

19:41

have done is created

19:43

ad campaigns. We work

19:45

with Hollywood to have

19:47

inclusion in storytelling in

19:49

order to demystify who

19:51

transgender folks are and

19:53

explain why health care

19:55

looks like for. Trans folks

19:58

or not a sport. He

20:00

means to a trans person. What

20:03

gets me with the barrage

20:05

of horrific legislation that we've

20:07

seen come down is that

20:09

it seems always that the

20:11

opposition it looks to bolster

20:13

their cause based on the

20:15

hope that people don't know

20:17

who trans people are so

20:19

that they can paint them

20:21

as these bogeyman as these

20:23

people that are lurking in

20:25

the shadows as opposed to

20:27

your next door neighbor. And

20:29

so talk to us about.

20:32

How. Even the representation

20:34

of trans folks in the

20:36

media in Hollywood really has

20:38

shifted over the last several

20:40

years. I think that's a

20:43

great point. And Brazil, if

20:45

you just step back for

20:47

one second spell. Seven years

20:49

ago, people weren't even talking

20:51

about transgender people. I mean,

20:54

they've always exist. obvious, right?

20:56

right? might be cause of

20:58

media representation. It wasn't so

21:00

long ago that. Laverne Cox

21:02

is on the cover of Time Magazine.

21:05

And trans. Folk started to

21:08

get media attention for coming

21:10

out as they are authentic

21:12

selves and sell. A community

21:14

that has already has always

21:16

existed has all the sudden

21:18

a spotlight on them. What

21:20

We realized very quickly with

21:22

that folks who are looking

21:24

to advance their own agenda

21:26

at the cost of marginalized

21:28

people found it as a

21:30

very effective tool because there

21:32

wasn't a lot of representation

21:34

and because people still are.

21:36

Just give you an idea when

21:39

Caitlin Jenner came out, which is

21:41

not our greatest trans representation, but

21:43

at the time she was the

21:46

most visible transgender person in the.

21:48

Though. World when see kitten.

21:50

Six percent of Americans said they

21:53

knew somebody who was trans. After

21:55

she came out, we polled again

21:57

anything. Doubled to eighteen

21:59

percent. From person coming

22:01

out on the Diane Sawyer

22:03

shall see you can see

22:06

how Representations has put not

22:08

only advance trans. Folks but also

22:10

put them in the cross hairs rights. And

22:12

so it's on us now

22:14

to educate folks and inform

22:16

people because you know what

22:19

Americans and the people in

22:21

the United States are not

22:23

built for. He we just

22:25

aren't as people were about

22:27

inclusivity were about equality And

22:29

it's heated starting to show

22:32

Danielle in our polling. We

22:34

just recently did a voter

22:36

poll. Voters across the board

22:38

are starting to reject candidates

22:40

who are using transgender. People

22:42

to campaign. That's wonderful news and I

22:45

think that line what we saw at

22:47

least A You know if you look

22:49

at Florida and Rhonda Santas and the

22:52

way that he turned that state Sunshine

22:54

State into this hateful state where everything

22:56

that every policy that was coming out

22:58

was about targeting the Lgbtq community and

23:01

what people can understand those living inside

23:03

of Florida is that that targeting didn't

23:05

change their lives for the better. and

23:08

he didn't put more food on their

23:10

table a didn't makes prescription. Drugs

23:12

more affordable and so at some

23:14

point I think that there is

23:16

a tipping Points That is Matt

23:18

where it's like you're not going

23:20

to get more people to support

23:22

your cause of hate when they

23:25

don't see their own lives changing

23:27

for the better. I would agree

23:29

with you. it's a short term

23:31

strategy on Iran to Santa Says

23:33

and it ran it's course. but

23:35

this is the same playbook be

23:37

used against gay and lesbian people

23:39

fifteen twenty years ago, especially around

23:41

and marriage. And it was more

23:43

fear mongering. It's the exact same playbook

23:45

and it was working at Birds and

23:48

Men. It does. like you said and

23:50

and he a turning point and I

23:52

think we're seeing that turning point. Do

23:55

you think that when we have these

23:57

inflection points is our Kate and you

23:59

know. In our society when we

24:01

are making you know incredible progress

24:03

where he twenty six teen we

24:05

have that passage of same sex

24:07

marriage we have. you know, more

24:09

shows and more representation and then

24:11

we see this entire back last

24:13

that we've been experiencing over the

24:15

last couple of years. I would

24:17

I would argue the you know

24:19

since the since Trump came down

24:21

the escalator isn't in you know

24:24

right following the same sex marriage

24:26

decision we've been seeing a push

24:28

back east there and then do

24:30

you feel. More. Responsibility

24:32

on Hollywood More responsibility on

24:34

media to do the opposite

24:36

of what politicians are doing.

24:38

To offer people a better

24:40

story and a better narrative.

24:42

Them what is being sold.

24:44

I think it's on all

24:46

of us, honestly didn't ya?

24:48

Yes, we are pushing Hollywood.

24:50

but it's not just Hollywood

24:52

anymore, right? It's Silicon Valley.

24:54

It's what the five major

24:56

social media platforms aren't doing

24:58

than be doing. It's on

25:00

C E. O's who were

25:02

hiding under their desks and

25:04

pry during Pride Month. Not

25:06

all of them. actually. there's

25:08

been more corporate who are

25:10

supportive of Lgbtq folks. But

25:12

I also think it's not

25:14

just Lgbtq. This is a

25:16

backlash on women. This is

25:18

a backlash on people of

25:21

color. This is a backlash

25:23

on all those who have

25:25

not been the powerful and

25:27

the system is changing their

25:29

systemic change that's happening in.

25:31

America where it is becoming more

25:33

equal and I think this is

25:35

a backlash to that overall. and

25:38

so I do think and there

25:40

is no just one lane, right?

25:42

It's not as Lgbtq people, it's

25:45

not as trans people in bodily.

25:47

At Brian Mcbride women and bodily

25:49

autonomy. It's people. Of color and

25:51

bodily autonomy. You know, like there's

25:54

a lot here so I think

25:56

we acted a Hollywood has to

25:58

do more by smokers. Created by

26:00

influencer that created by Silicon Valley.

26:03

It's created, added the Beltway. It's

26:05

created at a median. Journalism and

26:07

all need to be held accountable.

26:09

it's why we have reports now

26:11

one of them and to hold

26:14

them accountable and measure where we

26:16

are. Even video games that meets

26:18

it's that's the most pervasive entertainment.

26:21

In the world. And near

26:23

a lack of Lgbtq included in their

26:25

last of women. their lack of people

26:27

of color is startling. You know I

26:29

want to go back to something that

26:31

you that you sad. On with

26:33

regard to pride. And a

26:35

month of June and what we

26:37

saw last year and the year

26:39

before which was kind of this

26:41

poll back and many ways that

26:43

at one point we got to

26:45

a place I think we I'm

26:48

saying like Lgbtq community we're we're

26:50

just like wow. Pride has become

26:52

entirely corporate. highest right where every

26:54

every corporation wanted to put up

26:56

a rainbow. Every corporation was running

26:58

a commercial and doing something. and

27:00

then again because of the politics

27:02

of the moment we started. To

27:04

see a pullback in that and

27:07

how do you ios you? are

27:09

you mention any said? you know

27:11

not all Ceos and not all

27:13

places, but we have seen you

27:16

know with Budweiser with different companies

27:18

getting attacked for wanting to expand

27:20

their audiences, wanting to up their

27:22

representation of for traditionally marginalized groups.

27:25

And so how do you see

27:27

pride? even though we're gay We

27:29

say this, You know, three hundred

27:32

and sixty five days a year.

27:34

Twelve months of the year,

27:36

not just during June, But

27:38

how do you first see

27:40

corporations kind of dealing with

27:42

discontinued attacks on diversity and

27:44

inclusion and what? was glad

27:46

role be in this moment

27:49

and is a very big

27:51

question because he has a

27:53

lot of angles to I

27:55

write so I would say

27:57

overall were seen more corporate

27:59

com. The You Support

28:02

Lgbtq. folks. But we're

28:04

in an election year and they

28:06

don't want to be caught in

28:08

the crossfire because our community has

28:10

been politicized, is know it's isn't

28:12

political, that they don't want to

28:14

be caught in the crossfire. said

28:16

they're continuing to do the work

28:18

but not doing it very publicly

28:20

and I think I'm seeing that

28:22

and more and more. It's very

28:25

few are stepping away from it

28:27

and the reason is is because

28:29

the writing is on the wall

28:31

when you look at the next

28:33

generation and that thirty to forty

28:35

Percent or Lgbtq a Dnc, You

28:37

know that in order to grow

28:39

here consumer base and your employees

28:41

and him to attract the best

28:43

and retain the best you going

28:45

to have to be inclusive a

28:47

certain man data from this next

28:50

generation and sell. I think what's

28:52

happening is folks. Are quietly

28:54

doing the work and

28:56

making sure. That they're still

28:58

inclusive and not doing it in

29:01

very theatrical out there ways that

29:03

fi, well, the numbers are the

29:05

numbers and anyone running a business

29:08

now knows what those numbers are

29:10

and can see the writing on

29:12

the wall. I mean, I think

29:14

it's extraordinary. When he just said

29:17

thirty to forty percent of generations

29:19

he identifies as Lgbtq or non

29:21

binary or I mean that's really

29:24

extraordinary is extraordinary. Not only that,

29:26

over eighty percent. Identify as

29:28

allies to the community. Ah

29:30

now I need whether it

29:33

is whether your service in

29:35

the Lgbtq. Community or

29:37

our allies. A did

29:39

in mass and it's not gonna

29:42

change. and I think that's the

29:44

biggest blowback that we're seeing right

29:46

now. and our job is to

29:48

keep our foot on the gas

29:50

pedal. Our job is not to

29:52

let up because even though as

29:54

you mentioned earlier, there are over

29:57

five hundred anti Lgbt knows, that

29:59

is. Edu weight class to

30:01

what has. A to the

30:03

advancements that we've been making,

30:05

right? That's a matter of

30:07

trying to control us. only.

30:09

any passing is bad and

30:11

even that they are proposed

30:13

creates damage to the communities

30:15

real damage. However, less than

30:18

ten percent are passing. There

30:20

isn't a real appetite for

30:22

this and I see that

30:24

as we see this change

30:26

as people understand to transgender

30:28

and gender. Nonconforming people are

30:30

and they realize as you.

30:32

Said that they are their neighbors,

30:34

their coworkers to them members. It

30:36

becomes the mystified in there is

30:38

no Bogeyman and there's some people

30:40

who wanna be. You know, have

30:42

a job, have a family earn

30:44

a living just like everyone else

30:46

you know. Let me ask you

30:48

this because I think that you

30:50

know what you'd stated earlier as

30:52

well with regard to how media

30:54

has changed to I think obviously

30:56

when Glad started we were talking

30:58

about television. You're talking about radio

31:01

and now you have. All

31:03

of these media platforms. Traditional

31:05

media, non traditional media video

31:07

games. What is your hope

31:10

As we move athletes you

31:12

know propel ourselves into the

31:15

future. What is your hope

31:17

for glad as our consumption

31:19

and just what we understand

31:22

as media changes. Which really

31:24

important about this is that

31:26

it's not just media, it's

31:29

influencers. It's people who have

31:31

really large. Followings You know

31:33

One thing that we talk about

31:36

here and there is that we

31:38

work with the Pope. The Pope

31:40

has two billion people. Who

31:42

follow him? I mean, they're the

31:44

larger a leader in the world.

31:46

We've worked. With him behind the

31:48

scenes on coming out on their

31:51

blessings of same sex marriage on

31:53

decriminalization because half the country's that

31:56

it's still criminal to be Lgbtq

31:58

and which is about said indeed

32:00

are Christian countries and he's been

32:03

doing a lot of work on

32:05

not as well. So my school

32:08

been My dream is that we're

32:10

influence how were and culture is

32:12

created. We have a seat for

32:15

the Lgbtq community and a voice

32:17

at that table or in those

32:20

rooms and that's what we've worked

32:22

really hard over my tenure to

32:24

make sure that we're in those

32:27

places in those spaces places that

32:29

we. Haven't ordinarily been in like

32:32

the World Economic Forum or video

32:34

games or Broadway for that matter

32:36

and religion I mean working with

32:39

the Pope is been unbelievable. The

32:41

mountains that someone like him can

32:43

move for our community and that's

32:46

my dream is to can make

32:48

sure that we. Are in all

32:50

of those spaces. And have a

32:52

boy said those tables law says

32:54

okay at all I wanna say

32:56

is it is have then an extraordinary

32:59

decades that you have been leading glad

33:01

and expanding the footprint something marriage

33:03

has and just you know taking our

33:05

community and places and spaces that we

33:08

had never been before. So I just

33:10

want to thank you for your continued

33:12

work and I hope that you

33:14

will make the time to join us

33:17

again soon. I would love to thank

33:19

you so much for having. Me: According

33:22

to my next guest, some journalists seem

33:25

bored by the biggest story of our

33:27

lifetimes and remote an excellent piece. August

33:29

August Stop The Presses Substantial, Stop The

33:31

Presses.news with the App title. Some journalists

33:33

seem bored by the biggest story of

33:35

our livestock, joining me now to explain

33:37

his offer. A former Metro Editor of

33:39

the Chicago Tribune and former Sunday Editor

33:41

of the Chicago Sun Times Mark Jacobs

33:43

March Thanks so much for me for

33:46

asking me. So let's start with the

33:48

obvious question: What is the biggest story

33:50

of our lifetimes will be The. Story

33:52

of our lifetimes is a new the

33:54

threat to overthrow American democracy to to

33:56

seen from the right wing. Me miss

33:58

the Us. In three years

34:01

ago I in a very obvious

34:03

way on national television is salty

34:05

capital and ignore think like to

34:07

sing came out clearly it's an

34:09

ongoing the coup attempt. I mean,

34:11

you see it in many many

34:14

ways, just from the standpoint of

34:16

a interesting journalism storage. It's an

34:18

incredible journalism story. I mean, it's

34:20

always our amen sister. All these

34:22

characters it's gotten certainly has import

34:24

and I'm stunned to see it.

34:26

Some journalists want to, just you

34:29

know, yawn and complain. About to

34:31

old guys running and oh it's more

34:33

of the same and Nato we can't

34:35

and can write feature stories about the

34:38

their spouses of the the candidates because

34:40

we've already done that and it's so

34:42

shallow at a time of crisis in

34:44

our country. So where are you seeing

34:47

this journalistic boredom with the Biden Trump

34:49

rematch like flex name names here at

34:51

least in terms of outlets will have

34:53

very obscure journal called to New York

34:56

Ssssss. Actually the thing that set me

34:58

off to write this piece. On my

35:00

sub deck was at the headline have

35:03

a very probably a letter website for

35:05

a while and headline was the Biden

35:07

Trump Rerun A nation craving change

35:09

gets more of the same and any

35:12

also demise would say the had left

35:14

unsaid yawn now fully as it's stupid

35:16

but as long as it's wrong

35:18

it's not a real on. The last

35:21

time these two guys ran was before

35:23

January sixth. It was before the Dobbs

35:25

decision overturned of abortion rights. It was

35:28

before Biden team up with an. Economy.

35:30

That said, defied all expectations and didn't. Despite

35:32

all the negative talk a New York Times

35:35

about or we're going to have a recession,

35:37

the conditions are so far different from

35:39

what they were. And Twenty Twenty in your

35:41

piece, you call viewing the selection as a

35:43

rerun of Twenty Twenty. You refer to it

35:46

as a huge misreading of our political

35:48

situation. How so we are in crisis and

35:50

I'm a to I don't like if Trump

35:52

in one last time, is he would have

35:55

learned enough that he would have run

35:57

a much more autocratic press as Vinci and

35:59

that we. They're in big trouble. The

36:01

one last time does become much more

36:03

clear Now I'm in Trumbull, his dictatorship

36:06

talked since that twenty twenty election Trump

36:08

as even said he wants her terminated

36:10

constitution or part of an unspecified. Any

36:13

thoughts about sending troops into a Us

36:15

cities invited he's deal taxa de gigantic

36:17

Emily to do So many things that

36:19

hit that have been talked about. the

36:22

make it clear that Trump is intends

36:24

to become a dictator if he's elected

36:26

again. Still doesn't leave speculating are just

36:29

middle being ill chicken little you're running

36:31

around. This is what anyone who's paying

36:33

attention nose happening. and I don't understand

36:35

why the New York Times, feals and

36:38

other publications as well feel like they're

36:40

bored by it is not. Stay on.

36:42

Love it. It's not interesting enough form

36:45

and if the real problem here is

36:47

it's your viewing elections as entertainment devices

36:49

instead of things that determine the future

36:51

of our country and our children or

36:54

grandchildren. Yeah, absolutely. And along those lines

36:56

as you also note, you know, January

36:58

Six. Happened. Three years ago and

37:01

Trump's what you call his dictator talk

37:03

has gotten progressively worse, but it feels

37:05

like none of this really seems to

37:07

register at places like the times where

37:09

if you look at least I feel

37:11

like I see far more horse race

37:13

stories, stories about by age, stories about

37:16

college kids been college kids. I see

37:18

so much more of that than I

37:20

do about Trump calling migrants. Animals are

37:22

saying they're poisoning the point of this

37:24

country or that is now calling for

37:26

a national abortion ban, etc. It's it's

37:28

like they cover. Those those little things

37:30

that I mentioned but they never given

37:33

over arching sense of hey this is

37:35

why this election is so important. I

37:37

don't know why this is but they

37:39

they seem to be way more concerned

37:41

the style and was substance amidst today

37:43

right about You know what? the future

37:45

of pharmaceutical drug crisis? Trump vs Biden?

37:47

There's a big difference there. Could they

37:49

read about foreign policy to the robot

37:51

mideast policy Trump vs Bidens to the

37:53

I'm if it's there's a lot of

37:55

things that are actually issues of people

37:58

are going to be voting. On. Rather

38:00

than you know whether you know who's wearing

38:02

the best high and stuff like that and

38:04

yet I hated his best. A New York

38:06

Times although they are the worst offender of

38:08

this a really army entered the are a

38:10

very intellectual news source. In a lot of

38:12

other news sources mimic them so it is

38:15

so it is important for them to get

38:17

it right. It just seems like to just

38:19

some shower when we should be still being

38:21

boring and important and it is all about

38:23

clicks. I mean is that all they care

38:25

about? I mean you don't you Just Oh

38:27

did they the recipes and they have the

38:29

crossword puzzles split. The people who want

38:31

those enjoy those. the political coverage is

38:33

both, tell us who we should vote

38:36

for for president, know absolutely and would

38:38

really rankles and and obviously this is

38:40

what you're saying piece is that. The.

38:43

Choice in this election is so much

38:45

starker than I usually spend. You don't

38:47

have to be a huge Joe Biden

38:49

fan or even any kind of Joe

38:51

Biden fan to see that. Oh yeah,

38:54

amen. I mean as can the point

38:56

of the pieces, it's to release and

38:58

never in our lifetimes that we hadn't

39:00

elections it as had so much. it's

39:02

states and opinion of obscure. I'm indoors

39:04

Bush vs. Clinton and deal you back

39:07

in the other nineties and stuff like

39:09

that or right by. those are important

39:11

elections. but not like this. This. Is

39:13

a question and we you gotta ya

39:15

the project. Twenty Twenty five. Going from

39:17

there you know, the Heritage Foundation and

39:19

all this other stuff. The means they

39:22

are planning to fire a bunch of

39:24

civil servants and women. armies of Trump

39:26

acolytes in office. If he wins, are

39:28

planning to stem. Giant can still talking

39:30

about using national guard troops from Red

39:32

states to go round and of immigrants

39:34

and or even going into the Blue

39:36

States than it did. talks about. Like

39:39

most the Blue States, you want to

39:41

cooperate with his Giant round up. That

39:43

they would send national Guard troops for

39:45

the rest Daves to invade the blue

39:48

States to go get him a meat

39:50

steps nuts. That's crazy stuff from news

39:52

organizations to not realize they should be

39:54

hiding the selection as incredibly important and

39:56

super interesting to get their entered and

39:58

style their into. Cygnus. Here's an

40:00

example of how the New York Times

40:02

just doesn't really know how to get sharp

40:05

on stuff. Remember when Trump talked about is

40:07

how his opponents were vermin and and

40:09

you know I mean come on he thought

40:11

he are you snapdragons and more recently

40:13

he's he said that the did some migrants

40:16

are not people and then he call any

40:18

salsa calling upon his berman and we

40:20

know kind of where this guy talks comes

40:22

from. But the first New York Times

40:24

headline on and story was Trump takes Veterans

40:27

Day speech in a very different direction which

40:29

was like some. Really Wow. that's very informative.

40:31

New York Times Subaru and really like that.

40:33

and I you know I went on social

40:36

media and the now said headline to from

40:38

for it's vagueness and avoidance of the real

40:40

of the real issue and new time. It

40:42

wasn't just me but a lot of two

40:45

people dead in New York Times came back

40:47

to. we wrote it and they were rerouted

40:49

as in Veterans Day speech Trump promises to

40:51

quote Root out unquote the last Oh com.

40:55

Rpg. I mean in I was in journalism for know

40:57

forty years. I know how to write a headline in

40:59

the people. Of New York Times on a

41:01

know how to write a headline, yet

41:03

to come up with something like that

41:05

And finally and into our suppose came

41:07

out with what it was actually a

41:09

good headline. And there's was Trump, cause,

41:11

political enemies, Berman echoing dictators, Hitler, Mussolini

41:14

and in off what was that so

41:16

hard right? It's never the obvious ones.

41:18

I mean that's a good headline and

41:20

Washington Post month seem like I'm bashing

41:22

all media exhaustion post and stuff like

41:24

that is generally Bezel month and a

41:26

New York Times has been Say I

41:28

just wish that people would meet the

41:30

moment. In journalism I mean it's decided

41:32

oh harm will your nose or

41:34

to all guys run for president.

41:36

Were so bored with this which

41:38

cameo pick apart your social media

41:40

for twenty years ago. Forget to

41:42

interviewed or high school teacher if

41:44

we get your that mean it's

41:46

digital. It seems like they're so

41:48

in this road scan of this

41:50

routine of how they do things

41:52

like this that they don't recognize

41:54

that. not only is this a

41:56

unique situation where space suits but

41:58

as as incredibly interesting. And

42:00

very journalistically fruitful Subjected to that they

42:02

could be suffering. Never too many journalists

42:05

who feel like they're not allowed to

42:07

be cheerleaders for democracy. Which is wholly

42:09

different than being a cheerleader for one

42:11

party over the other, At least in

42:14

a normal world. It almost feels like

42:16

they're too afraid, like they feel like

42:18

well as a fights. If I show

42:20

a sweat towards democracy, I'm actually favoring

42:23

the Democratic party and and I can't

42:25

do that. I have to play this

42:27

down the middle, but there is no

42:29

down the middle. Between Democracy and you

42:31

know call it what you want: Authoritarianism, Fascism.

42:33

That's how it reads to me and to

42:36

I think a lot of people. That is

42:38

a problem. I wrote a separate Sub Stack

42:40

newsletter column about that about Mm. just ask

42:42

the question Is a New York Times neutral

42:44

on the question of them democracy because they

42:47

often seem that way. As Peter Baker whose

42:49

or with their chief want White House correspondents'

42:51

he comes across that way I'm he's not

42:53

inaccurate in any way, he's actually quite accurate.

42:55

He says a lot of the known as

42:58

a lot of information in there, but it's.

43:00

Devoid of any values as far as

43:02

whether he likes democracy or not and

43:05

smiles to do today as as the

43:07

journalist ought to be behaving in a

43:09

way that would get him in big

43:12

trouble. In the democracy happens, the ought

43:14

to be writing stories that are so

43:16

pro democracy that if a dictatorship happy

43:18

as that they will be arrested. Cyclists

43:21

Peter Baker my keep his job and

43:23

do very very well. And it's sister

43:25

Serena has another mean he's predictors not

43:28

sure. but he's so devoid of pro

43:30

democracy. Values that he says play and

43:32

everything. Is it that some sort of

43:34

tactical game As if it's a video

43:36

game or something? It's all well you

43:39

know enough. For example, when Trump says

43:41

something awful, Peter Baker doesn't seem right

43:43

about how awful it is and how

43:45

about how dangerous it is Now threatening

43:47

it is to like immigrant groups or

43:49

to jews order any the people what

43:52

he's saying horrible things about. he writes

43:54

about about the would it mean for

43:56

his prospects for winning in November is

43:58

sports coverage and not. The Me:

44:00

Nuts. Yeah, absolutely. I'm curious what you

44:02

think or how you think we got

44:04

here. How did we get to the

44:06

point where so much of the media

44:09

is unwilling or afraid? Maybe to do

44:11

anything but both sides this election? And.

44:13

Pretend or ignore really what Trump is why

44:15

I don't think the media changed a bit

44:17

and that's the whole problem. I think that

44:20

that you know as I say was and

44:22

his biggest for him for decades and is

44:24

pretty much the same as it's it's always

44:26

been. You know they like these kind of

44:29

cycle set pieces say like to know the

44:31

know the conventions are coming up, the know

44:33

how to cover. ohm they know that mean

44:35

a New Hampshire is the first primary, The

44:38

know the I was first carcasses and he

44:40

knows his bellwether state stuff and all the

44:42

city know it's. Such wrote to them that

44:44

they're very comfortable in it and they like

44:46

to come over. It's like that and in

44:49

that kind of system note that kind of

44:51

this I would that nineteen nineties kind of

44:53

system where he has his balance between parties.

44:55

largely they are so very comfortable with. Here's

44:57

what the Democrats say. Here's what aroma can

44:59

say and frankly just a meal and can

45:02

fashioned here. When I was awesome for National

45:04

does Captain Scott Turbulence in I would count

45:06

the number of coach we got from Republicans

45:08

and Democrats to make sure there were about

45:10

even in that we had and when represented

45:12

said and. I thought that was being fair,

45:14

but there wasn't Right now I know that

45:16

that wasn't being fair. That I mean that really

45:19

what you should have assessed I should have

45:21

incest is you know how fact based those quotes

45:23

were and use ones were fact based. I mean

45:25

be it's but his hopes but the news

45:27

media is very. Comfortable. With

45:29

this kind of vote for for tat

45:31

does kind of know he said she

45:34

said that the know the kind of

45:36

thing where they just undies. You know

45:38

they'll have to decide on whether something

45:40

is true or false and so the

45:42

news media to. In my opinion it's

45:44

a deer also part of the power

45:46

structure. This needs to be understood to

45:48

know that in a specially hold Washington

45:50

you know that news media were powerful,

45:53

famous and influential people and they liked

45:55

it that way. Therefore they had a

45:57

stake in the situation saying just. The

45:59

way it was. And you know

46:01

when go under cocktail parties and

46:03

hobnobbing and all esta what disrupted

46:05

things is is sharp turn toward fascism

46:07

by the Republican party and where they

46:10

became not a normal political party but

46:12

more like our it's organized crime syndicate

46:14

and a just a they ain't I

46:17

just um Plano lying or realization

46:19

in which he was telling lies was

46:21

just part of how you play the

46:23

game and that's the change and the

46:26

news. We'd have been utterly incapable of

46:28

resting. spat they tried to. And and

46:30

they've been so desperately I see this

46:32

would like Jake Tapper on Cnn's I

46:34

Think who's not a bad journalist, but

46:36

but it's just desperately looking for moderates?

46:38

it was. I don't think many of

46:40

them by the old standard even exist

46:42

anymore, but he doesn't. Desperately looking for

46:44

republican moderates, you know, just com just

46:46

beaten the bushes more amino it's any.

46:48

Have some people financing base was one

46:50

some people thought at least a Phonics

46:52

was once. know those are not. and

46:54

in the news media are so they're

46:56

so desperate for the same kind of

46:58

political ecosystem. The We. Hadn't like the

47:00

Niger Ninety Nineties and like that's that

47:02

they have been unable and unwilling to

47:04

adjust to new circumstances. It's so frustrating.

47:06

and is there any chance the media

47:09

figures this out before November? I obviously

47:11

I'm not optimistic it all. I would

47:13

love for you to tell me I

47:15

should be. I suspect you're not going

47:17

to tell me that, but I would

47:19

love for you to tell me that

47:21

there's reason for optimizers, reason for optimism.

47:23

I mean that the sad thing is

47:25

a take some so long on the

47:27

how long it takes a major publications

47:29

to use word lie. And action

47:31

do republican lies. They finally did the

47:33

boy. They resisted it for years. and

47:35

they've lied to lie, to lie, do

47:37

and speed Ali's cutesy terms. or Nikki

47:39

Haley. They said she had an ability

47:41

to massage her message for the moment.

47:43

susceptible to be back. Ramaswamy They said

47:45

he had a penchant for dispensing with

47:47

the facts. They don't want to use

47:49

the word law and so and when

47:52

you don't have any, it'll be.direct They

47:54

also you see the news organizations use

47:56

terms like they'll say something is just

47:58

plain of fact about a Republican. They're

48:00

the end of the second so say critics

48:02

say much as anal as if as if

48:04

it's not a point or factor just of

48:06

stairs prop frayed of facts and I'm in

48:09

a been direct and indirect. This is really

48:11

dangerous because it turns everything into an opinion.

48:13

A net benefit are liars who have lying

48:15

opinions and are based on facts. So will

48:17

it move? The news media get better from

48:20

where we have dinner. we have much seven

48:22

months, seven or eight months. yeah I don't

48:24

think they will in time on some of

48:26

them are in of the Atlantic did a

48:28

whole issue on the coming. Dictatorships. We'll

48:31

do something. New York Times stories

48:33

and the persecution of immigrants and

48:35

are selected. There are like breaks

48:37

or stories. It's just that they

48:39

are Associated Press which it is.

48:41

This your press has been to

48:44

terrible with his headlines but you

48:46

need people to get direct. Would

48:48

I had a are my are

48:50

stop the presses or newsletter. I

48:52

hard for newspapers to do page

48:54

one editorials morning The Nation about

48:57

the coming Dictatorship of the vote

48:59

for Donald Trump newspapers. traditionally.

49:01

Have done to use when editorials. Occasionally you

49:04

know something really important come out was happening

49:06

and they really think it'd Public needs to

49:08

know when the public nice Know this alone.

49:10

not just talking about Page One imprints. I

49:13

know Print is dying I'm talking about he'll

49:15

put it at the top of your home

49:17

page you know, blasted out on your social

49:20

media. In the news media need to understand

49:22

it. They are pro democracy and they should

49:24

be because if they're not pro democracy in

49:26

some gets elected during them, find themselves you

49:29

have marched down or other newsrooms possibly. I

49:31

mean and into First Amendment is not going

49:33

to survive is different, gets elected in my

49:35

opinion, Skis or he talked about for example.

49:38

know that Msnbc nice be punished for it's

49:40

coverage and means and their needs Needs to

49:42

be a crackdown on I'm so the news

49:44

media of an independent media will not survive

49:47

or Trump dictatorship fail to get real and

49:49

and wake up. Will they do that? Will

49:51

they do page when editorials Now I don't

49:53

think they're going to take my advice on

49:56

that, but I do think you're going to

49:58

start seeing more and more voice. This.

50:00

In. The news media saying especially when we

50:02

get really close to the elections. especially if

50:04

Trump's rhetoric is bad and Trump mates pretend

50:07

a moderate in the next step several months

50:09

as well. you know he may say well

50:11

I'm really. you know the guy who got

50:13

rid of Roe versus Wade is gonna try

50:15

to explain to us while he why he

50:18

wants to compromise on abortion and what he

50:20

really wants to do is try to placate

50:22

people who believe in abortion rights enough to

50:24

where they can hold the hills info from

50:26

even though you know his promises are engraved

50:28

on the wind. I mean he. Stayed

50:31

he never, He never says anything that is

50:33

in the least believable. So so I didn't.

50:35

She met a lie a bunch of times

50:37

to try to pretend to be a moderate.

50:39

Young people have sort of attention span so

50:42

they may go forward or not. Totally pessimistic

50:44

about the ability the news media to wake

50:46

up you know, see what's happening in sound

50:48

the alarm. Well hopefully it won't be too

50:51

late March. Thanks so much for joining us!

50:53

I encourage everyone to check out Marks. Excellent

50:55

sub stack a the presses at Stop The

50:57

Presses.news I won't say that you made me

51:00

feel a. Hell of a lot better other

51:02

situation but at least you see a little

51:04

bit of cause for opt outs are smart.

51:06

Thanks so much night Thanks lot! Danielle.

51:10

Moody and a levy Danielle start

51:13

off this week to be honest,

51:15

not that glorious that I feel

51:17

bad cerebral. Artery,

51:20

others, your fucking. Well, it's

51:22

been awhile since he heard

51:24

from Rob Down in Florida

51:26

and as an even worse

51:28

than ever for so apparently

51:30

this week according to the

51:32

Tampa Bay Times thrown dissent

51:34

has has signed a bill

51:36

blocking most kids from social

51:38

media website, setting up and

51:40

expected court battles that could

51:42

prevent the legislation from ever

51:44

taken effect. So House Bill

51:46

Three passed by lawmakers with

51:48

bipartisan support this month minds

51:50

you forbids kids. Thirteen and younger

51:52

from creating social media accounts, M

51:54

requires a platform. To seek

51:56

out and remove their profile.

51:59

Kids fourteen. Good seen would

52:01

need parents' consent. Now let me

52:03

just say this. What happened said

52:05

Parental Rights and Control. I thought

52:08

that that was the entire campaign

52:10

that Republicans had been running on.

52:12

Parents should have to say on

52:14

what books their kids read and

52:17

what curriculum they're being introduced to.

52:19

And you know, because they're so

52:21

fragile lender so fearful. So it

52:24

should be parents, right? this would.

52:26

This is what Saddam Glenn Young

52:28

kids elected in Virginia. Was this

52:30

idea of parental rights? You know,

52:32

What about the parents? And so

52:34

now here comes a big fucking

52:37

bother with his wife, fuck in

52:39

high heeled boots and all over

52:41

a parental rights and say no,

52:43

no, No, I know better than

52:45

what you know. So no one

52:47

is saying that social media doesn't

52:49

have adverse effects on kids speak.

52:51

I guess what social media has

52:53

adverse. Effects on Alma Mater. Riot.

52:55

I don't actually care if you are

52:58

so keen or you know, or sixty

53:00

three if you're on anything for too

53:02

long and consuming a bunch of content.

53:04

Yeah, you're just you're gonna have a

53:06

distorted perspective of yourself and of the

53:08

world. But that doesn't mean that you

53:11

need government right again. The small government

53:13

people. The people They continue to tell

53:15

you the government is to in your

53:17

business forget that want to be in

53:19

your uterus. They want to be in

53:22

your household not they want to beat

53:24

the parents and control. Over your

53:26

children. What's. Next for what's

53:28

next. For them to ban

53:30

for them to tell you that

53:32

you have no control over. And

53:34

that's what I was like if

53:37

I'm democrats. and by the way,

53:39

the fact that this was bipartisan

53:41

is again I'm just like y'all

53:43

have. So many bigger issues in

53:45

Florida like so many better ones.

53:47

This should not be the thing

53:49

that you nice democrats and republicans

53:52

together self. I really hope that

53:54

Rhonda sand his guests sued that

53:56

the government get sued because the

53:58

only people. That should be making the

54:00

decisions for children. Are their parents and

54:03

caregivers right? Like, in all honesty, you

54:05

can't have it both ways, sell for

54:07

this legislation and just for so much

54:09

more. Like, when are you going to

54:12

go. Away Rob Just

54:14

roll away. roll.

54:16

Away. no one wants to hear from you.

54:18

Look for that reason we're starting off this.

54:21

You know I got Italia folks. I know

54:23

it's early in the week but it's not

54:25

agree with my fuck that guy. Says

54:27

keeps coming up in dirty states

54:29

and inevitably it should be ruled

54:31

unconstitutional is also. all these things

54:33

are absolutely impossible to enforce. How

54:35

do you prove that you're under

54:37

thirty? What kind of Id shows

54:39

that you're older than thirteen? Ah,

54:41

what kind of Id shows that

54:43

you're fourteen Or fifteen and need

54:45

your parents permissive? Still going to

54:48

have to use some time of

54:50

age verification during. I have no

54:52

doubt that I could circumvent one

54:54

of those things if if I

54:56

needed to. I. Have absolutely no

54:58

doubt that teenagers have better ways

55:00

to circumvent those things. But you

55:02

know lawmakers who know nothing about

55:04

technology to passing these stupid as

55:07

bills and in addition to being

55:09

unconstitutional and as you said, taking

55:11

away parents' rights, there's absolutely no

55:13

way to in forces in a

55:15

manner that works. So death fuck

55:18

these guys cells. And it's it's

55:20

and miserable Run know they've. Already

55:23

in America. Or maybe maybe it'll get

55:25

that. Are you write, things do change

55:28

is who are you Starting out the

55:30

week left with the or. Fuck

55:32

that guy. Well I didn't go

55:34

with someone and Danielle I know

55:37

he's a favorite of yours so

55:39

I'm sorry about this but I

55:42

didn't go will long time democratic

55:44

strategist James Carville to first came

55:46

to see my guess around was

55:49

the early nineties. eighteen higher with

55:51

unless I was nineteen ninety two

55:53

with Clinton and I think he

55:56

still thinks it's ninety ninety two.

55:58

He was asked. In an interview

56:00

that he did with Maureen Dowd don't

56:03

get me started on her he talked

56:05

about his concerns with see current Democratic

56:07

Party and here's what he said: He

56:09

said a suspicion of mine is that

56:11

there are too many preachy females. Don't

56:14

drink beer, Don't watch football, Don't eat

56:16

hamburgers. This is that good for you.

56:18

The messages to feminine: everything you're doing

56:20

is destroying the planet. You've gotta eat

56:23

your keys. Okay,

56:25

anyone who were first women as

56:27

females are you a pretty much

56:29

automatically. Know anything that they say is

56:32

gonna be awful and massage honest and

56:34

it's just gonna go from there. But

56:36

really you think the problem with Democratic

56:38

Party and Twenty Twenty Four is that

56:40

are too many priests emails? That's your

56:43

go to line. This is one of

56:45

those people who we talked about run

56:47

a Mcdaniel earlier in the Cel Putin

56:49

Fargo also should not be being put

56:51

on Tv for a lot of reasons.

56:53

Some of the visual. But

56:57

more importantly does this guy

56:59

has he literally. Has not

57:01

been in touch with the democratic

57:03

party again I think since the

57:05

early nineties and with all the

57:08

things going on in this world,

57:10

he's going to get out there

57:12

and rant about preachy females. stop

57:15

giving this guy oxygen, Stop giving

57:17

him air times, let him sit

57:19

on the by you and you

57:21

know, I don't know on crocodiles

57:24

or whatever that the hell he

57:26

does down there. precise whatever process

57:28

I prefer to pronounce. You crisis

57:30

who? Are

57:32

prepared. To different state Yes. I

57:35

know could crawfish find Cra Daddy's

57:37

yappy? Oh my God. Anyway, unless

57:39

it's Bill Hader on Snl doing

57:42

a James Carville and Press In

57:44

which is delightful, I don't ever

57:46

want to see anything that looks

57:49

or sounds like James Carville again.

57:51

Fucker. The only corruption that

57:53

I have is that yes he is

57:55

not one of my favorites. I just

57:58

want. Very

58:00

clear and and aware of that.

58:02

Say that now offers a different

58:04

story but Roka Oh my god

58:07

this man preachy. it's and. Let

58:09

me just tell you,

58:11

James Carville To use

58:13

the Right Wing's language

58:15

to tear down your

58:17

own party. That. A

58:19

in it that is not fuck in

58:21

it. So if you want women who

58:23

are like Kitchen T, maybe he's at

58:26

his lizard wizard who is that what

58:28

you want but with a little be

58:30

on there and lapel and you know

58:32

a little D in their in their

58:34

diamond cross. Shut the fuck up. Like

58:36

In all honesty, it's not ninety ninety

58:38

two. I don't think we need to

58:40

hear from you. I don't think that

58:42

you have your finger on a pulse

58:44

and so I'm good. I'm good. And

58:46

apparently if we're all a little too

58:48

preachy for. You, you know? sit this

58:50

one out. Sit it out my friends

58:53

and go that the bow hunting. Ceases.

58:56

Thought that guy. One of the things he

58:58

said in his interview was when I look

59:00

at these polling numbers, it's like walking in

59:03

on your grandma naked. You can get the

59:05

image on your mind. I would you buy

59:07

food. For the record, both my grandmothers are

59:09

dead. I would still rather walk on them

59:12

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