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hello and welcome to another sunday bonus or sort of
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the new abnormal we think so much for
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being here today we have an extra special
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first puts have some fun are we ready
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to listen to some clips hilly i
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, you
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know i'm always ready for clips ready for quotes
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we really have a world tour of stupid today
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hard to imagine you're shocked to you're this
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never happens on this episode the
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first comes from who i like to think of as
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the taken king jesse water
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so
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and if them ten person
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that they can focus everyone on so
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that they don't have to talk about what a mess aren't
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i'm lisa disappointed perfectly
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the had anything to that and and
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greg is right we are better people vote
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we lose the
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, also have a
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nice don't fly but we lose with
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honor we should take notes and babies heard
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funneling money to the squad types
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of the dem primary we can knock them off easier
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in them general
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yeah this is it is amy
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just getting some rival goods important
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about
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it's class is that see i see waters
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just said that republicans
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are there are are
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good losers and don't
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i mean did have some isn't from still saying
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he won the twenty twenty election or i
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mean slate you can't to say
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they didn't have any basis
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in reality more bet you know
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we were me and camera
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did you forget what he he forgot what that was enough
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for him that is completely like
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i'm sorry but what you know
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day were of we lose with dignity
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a man know and also your better
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people your whole party is based
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on the idea that you know pay taxes my
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it's a bit of course the and experiencing
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secret i mean you know the less
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cruel people the people don't love
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trump is i'm saying republicans visiting
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won't pay taxes rates i mean this
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is not the measure of like
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how good a person you the bar know
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which bizarro world stuff and it's just
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i need started from the top where i mean if
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you ever find yourself in a position where you're saying
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to jeanine pirro you said it perfectly
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you , made sad life choices
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and that is what is going
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on here all of these people
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including my former coworker
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have made dad life choices choices
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they are now stuck saying
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things that not only don't bear
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in a relationship to reality they are the opposite
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of what actual reality is
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and it's beyond obvious
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that it's republicans debt
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for forever have been briefed bringing
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the guns to the fight democrats
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the ones you want to ban guns by the way since
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so but now that the democrats
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are finally standing
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up a little bit and fighting the
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people on fox don't know what to do with themselves and
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so they spout is absolute
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nonsense that again it's not even that it's
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not true it's the opposite of true like
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everything's just reverse the parties
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in everything they say and then it's
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true what
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they're just basically saying all the stuff
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they've heard democrats say but
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it doesn't mean you're the one to one
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except the election results i still think it's
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like amazing
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the waters and judge box of
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y en su of my and
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like absolutely the the dumbest
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people on television who have continued
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to i do really was sox are
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they fries it is absolutely amazing
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and ages again is
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very instructive thing is to listen to everything
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they say and just again reverse
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the parties and that's where you get the truth
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but you know this is what their viewers
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wanna hear they know what's what their viewers
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wanna hear and they're not about
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telling anyone the truth or being accurate
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or about sacks bear about telling their viewers
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what they want to hear i just want to say one
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last thing which i think as important as specified
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there is no world in which the
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cia or the as
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me i stood with the liberal democrats
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like ssssss
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the it is fucking works right and seen
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that i'm telling you right now maybe
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one or two of them voted for hillary because they
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just
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dammit trump for it these are not
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democrat know look these are the same
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people who talk about the woke general right
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which come on i do have one
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clarification one clarification terms box
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one does say something perfectly you know
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what you go to a bar the bartenders of the average
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for a dozen dot a baker drake i bet
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to see could say etti drake see
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was made absolutely perfect
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sense so very so he's making
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fun of people for being up hard but i also
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feel that i have a lot of credible
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the with it and he i mean i
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what's gone on our bed it does seem
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quite in the bag much of the time are
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so we have another reoccur exact
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web what their howitzers a walker's
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howitzers know i support
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a bad as isolates like clearly
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there's as lot going on there's that
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the is that is causing this physical
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injuries you ,
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see we go where you are you gotta
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pay tribute to the nine eleven
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victims are you know but also
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you saw america come together together
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saw american come together because this
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country was i know it was on
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the war the com for a
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country that didn't believe in us and
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right now we have our leaders and was
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like joe biden doing venomous speeches
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that doesn't believe in america p e
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jill biden is just like is qaeda be
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, when he says it's
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al qaeda is a country i guess that's
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what he saying i mean i just
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so hard to really even know what he's
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saying yeah and again as
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you know we've said this on so before
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isn't and you said earlier is
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to you didn't get out and
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, is not a joke he
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soon as i mean he clearly like
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and i don't mean this as a joke seem
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like maybe he's a a child for see
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to yeah cause it's
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just the things that come out of his mouth they
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don't make sense and
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is sort of console what he's getting
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have even though it's wrong this
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console what did feels bad about this this decided
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like when i was guessing in history class
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my had studied for right
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but he's running for senate jesse know
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her , would like him should not be guessing
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they're all hung about say but
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he's to be running for says i'll just say i'll think this is
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less braided juri bore just
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as though idea what the hell ever
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was happy with politics because he never thought he was
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gonna do this until a psychotic
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former races game show host decide you should
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be a senator yeah yeah i think it's most
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by the way i don't think he's a former racist
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is a former game allows us you'll see
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this is angela is a reality television
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knows but yes agreed the
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river okay i actually don't know how
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to sprouts this last they've just got to
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go the spotlight today but
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dot baldock i was
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, v is set of canada for the dlc
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a do have have guy's lives
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with solicitor what he has to save
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the just one his primary on tuesday
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which is why not
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the head he has not been any is
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why funny they need had all this time
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to prepare for prime time and let me
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just it is not ready that's a good
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we have in a live and learn
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right and i've done a lot of
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research on this and i've spent
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the past couple of weeks talking weeks talking
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state has all of the state
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the from
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you know every party and
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i have come to the conclusion and i want to be definitive
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on this election was not stolen
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was there fraud
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yes is that a concern of granite
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state was all over the state yes there
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is there are responsibility
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for public servants and elected positions
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to ensure that our
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citizens of faith in their voting
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system
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yes
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what are watching job consequences
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and unfortunately president
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biden is the legitimate president
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of this country
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these are the important thing about this through
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to important things one is that as
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little as a month ago when he was
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running in his primary he said the
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election was stolen and he's been saying so long
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he also promotes anti vax conspiracies
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emmys out there that he said this
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now that he won his family right
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exactly so he said this now when his primary
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and i we gotta i gotta give credit
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to bill hemmer at fox news who actually
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call them out on it and said that he
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knows you said just a month ago that
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the election was stolen because a lot
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of times on fox news and in conservative
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media pages and that
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the past which can be as recent as
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an hour ago never happened and
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that the things they said indeed didn't happen
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at least for once somebody called
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one of these idiots out on
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their just you know on the fact that they've
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just been straight up lying or he's lying
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now and he doesn't believe that
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the and he does still believe the election was don't
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who the hell knows but he is somehow
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again he's the new hampshire senate candidate
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for the glp money against
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magic son first of all we he's
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got he's got the name of like a low level
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boss in a fantasy video
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game yeah and mario
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brothers or something i don't know where they keep finding
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these people they're everywhere
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i also think that again and it
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was together so for these are swing
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states
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nah mississippi they dislike
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to stay with a blue sanded
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are so now you're gonna run our
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against against who you
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know has been and have adhd sarah refuses
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to say the legitimacy of
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the likes it like
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what think we're in what world
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will this work for yell and been
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i'm not i'm not saying as as a democrat
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i'm saying this like as just a person who under
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in math and not very well
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yeah i mean hopefully not in this world
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their job the stupidity
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continues as , recall this
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park as we've listened to one charlie
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kirk talk a lot about how
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college shot something conservatives
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be positive
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largely because he couldn't
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get into
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image but yes yes well eg
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tj
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the escalating this argument
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to a whole new
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they're doing in the democratic
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party and the communists on
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their side but it's a daily reminder once
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again once again that
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our government schools are
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indoctrination centers they
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were designed in my opinion at this point
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simply to brainwash children
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they're not there to teach you to think they're
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not patriot if you're very teacher
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the make an argument and how to back it up
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they are there to create
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the next generation of communist
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marxists that so many
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in our public education would
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much to say
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i baked goods imported eat here
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is that dj
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is amazing and not
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on any substances and seems
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totally together that's what i would say
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from listening to that and i would say
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that once again you
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have to swap the parties
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to make is even remotely
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true the people who are trying to
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indoctrinate people are probably
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santas my ceiling is t jj
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is totally fine and the way
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he talks is completely healthy
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and there's nothing going on i
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don't think that dj tj his
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baby the best he's not the poster
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child for private schools private mean as
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someone who grew up in this in the same area
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and has and lot of overlap whatever
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knows people know m c saying
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public schools are bad but he's a
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pretty good case of private schools
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are best look i get it you're
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friends with the guy and you don't you
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, that i i
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smell christmas it more a logo
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i understand seizes place
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kid and mean is that is this is even
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kidding in yell at
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us i will say this were by favorite
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trump be up and i guess also
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the you know our to be fair though molly's
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we are talking about your boss called
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since one square foot of skyn
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how do you get to place where you decide you
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one right the spark plug my first
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book that i well
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yeah that's why you're here yes
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and my first book same the hijacking
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of reality part of that yes i'm at the same
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the life cycle a same and i'll listen i haven't
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google my name which was a mistake as
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part of my research i discovered
18:50
that a the autocomplete was
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looks old and at the time i was
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forty forty two i'm fifty
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six now then i didn't
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think that i looked specifically old
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and oh boy there are there are results
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and there are a lot of message boards dedicated
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to this and so that sent me down
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this whole it affected me far
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more deeply and for longer than i expected
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it to and when i got to the other side
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of it like why did that bother me so much
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than i thought well what is is i know that reversed
19:19
myself personally but i i sort of thing about what
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are the reasons that we have in society
19:23
that all of society seems to hold
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this
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the idea that women faces a broken after
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effects so the book goes into
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says based on my experiences and
19:33
feelings about the subject in those of about twenty people
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i interviewed and i put that all entities
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like micro short stories that
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kind of go into you know why do we think
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we've adopted
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idea because i feel like once one
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stabbers why they've adopted an
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idea is easier to
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then let go of it because you're like oh
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is that why i'm thinking more than
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i don't need to think that anymore yes and
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such an interesting story
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to you then stops
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i know are feeling like you looks
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old for me mom
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in this is how i process a lot of things like
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if something pushes
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the buttons i have to
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go right about it and see your out what
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steered it dot threat what
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irrational fear most the time
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for time it's an irrational fear to i have
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that that sort of woke up and if
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i write it out say we're in say while
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in felt censored because and
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as i'm really honest with myself and really right
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out with that irrational thought his and
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was and times like oh god i
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yeah i guess i really think that the downsides
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by steal a look at it
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then unable to go okay will
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do i really think that's gonna happen but
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if i don't identify and i just let
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those irrational fears stay under the rug
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is you will will just keep driving
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my train so that's a son
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works for me oh yes with
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the face i found that it was like oh
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no of people think i look old then there's
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the war and as a still in the blanks for me
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and is a solid land for everybody ray oh
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i won't be able to get
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a maid or keep this job or get
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a new job or i'm afraid people won't
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listen to me or whatever it is an
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ice has sound for myself
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i think it's true of others that that
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fear that there separate
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from the condition of the skin on your head
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that fear is deal with that
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see
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the fear that you won't get him
21:21
they are your fear that you're gonna lose your job
21:23
or your fear that people don't listen to
21:25
to that separate i found that separate
21:27
from the skin on your face two different
21:29
things and i think that problem
21:31
that occurs as people though
21:34
if i change my face our change that
21:36
which is premature anorexics think
21:38
right if i can get in a nice it'll
21:40
change everything outside of me or
21:42
other people with like i know the minute i
21:44
dye my hair blond my whole world's gonna change
21:47
all get that job or i'm navy
21:49
maybe not maybe you would a gotten it anyways anyway
21:51
also say i found if i deal
21:54
with the fear itself instead of other
21:56
things that i think well
21:57
neuter the fear
21:59
there now
21:59
then i'll i'll then i was really a
22:02
made some progress cause i don't i can't
22:04
get tripped up that button won't
22:06
can't really get pushed again like
22:08
do you think that some of this was
22:10
an again we all have anxiety
22:12
said getting into the do things this is the
22:14
war by the fact that your career still
22:16
they had as an actor my
22:19
my own experience i was never
22:21
a person who and i have a mother
22:23
who was a very much a person
22:26
who she's right or but she also was
22:28
like in great beauty and so
22:30
she spent a lot of times morning
22:32
or beauties got older i never had that experience
22:35
i mean i don't like getting older because
22:37
they don't want to die by
22:38
i am had much last of my
22:41
livelihood you know rely on
22:43
my attractiveness level and i just wonder
22:46
how much that factors into
22:48
at i'm a i think that's a good point
22:51
for sure and couple the women i spoke to
22:53
for say said been top models and
22:56
their faces changing was a really confusing
22:59
portion of their lives because
23:01
they say they didn't really has a lot
23:03
of
23:04
the words an it's love
23:06
from friends and family bookstore they
23:09
hear i hear the ugly duckling story right before
23:11
they made in our oh it's kinda being
23:13
ganglion really tall
23:15
and have these unusual features you know now
23:17
you're on the cover of vogue so when
23:19
that changed for them they're
23:22
right there world in a very serious way
23:24
because everything was wrapped up and
23:26
how they left the fact that they were getting
23:28
love and appreciation from their friends and family
23:31
their livelihoods there's sort of standing
23:33
in the world everything so that's
23:35
a real yeah now realize
23:37
as messy their head sprint for
23:39
me personally i mean i either had
23:42
yeah certainly got the comments because i had
23:44
previously been in the public eye in
23:47
a big why but i mean really part of it was like
23:49
why are they even talking about me i'm not leaving
23:51
really on the radar you know but for me
23:53
it messes my head because
23:56
i didn't know what to do that because i santana
23:59
the
23:59
that i'd never deposits not i thought
24:02
that i'd always had what society
24:04
and decided was an attractive says
24:06
than know that's what i'm asking
24:09
you became seem as soon
24:11
as an actress in a world
24:14
where your appearances really valued and so
24:16
i wonder how that changes that calculus
24:18
yeah you know i had still been acting
24:21
i mean
24:21
i am an acid in years is you know
24:23
writing directing producing and you know reading
24:26
books now yeah i may have and for a while
24:28
but yeah had i still been acting it
24:30
would have definitely connecticut the time i
24:32
was even probably still
24:34
kind of in that i think what drew me so
24:37
much is it because it's need been
24:39
so matter of fact for me because it had been
24:41
so yes i they an alpha
24:43
brown hair you know this kind of one of those things
24:45
and the fact that they were saying all
24:48
these terrible things where i was like an
24:50
hour there's only one of me and a bunch of them
24:52
the my head out really messed me up
24:54
his i made them right me wrong because i thought
24:57
well they must i in and look the photos
24:59
they were posting on his message more than ours i feel
25:01
like i'll look at a year and i thought oh
25:03
my god is there something wrong with me
25:06
with my brain in i can't
25:08
see what they're seeing you know it's like the
25:11
the goal dress blue dress thing managed
25:14
i remember that and or nasa really
25:16
mess with me yeah i
25:18
mean as like a lot elements to
25:20
at that age they talk about in the in
25:23
spain and that ad in the other but i mean
25:25
you know the people would talk about you publicly
25:27
is always horrifying the
25:29
not wanting a bar if i hadn't
25:31
been a matter of fact component of mine
25:34
but because it was such a strange thing as like people
25:36
saying her here is blond her here's
25:38
blonde and me going like oh my god my
25:41
years brown am i losing
25:43
i think gaslight what's going on yeah
25:45
i also think it's interesting like there
25:47
is
25:47
the sure if thing where
25:49
this child on television
25:51
so no one slide it's almost
25:53
him you're young on t v
25:56
but people don't really know and they
25:57
they're older and then you're older
25:59
mail my is enough mean
26:02
like the people have been so used to you for such
26:04
a long time that also colors
26:06
their anxiety elect their own anxiety
26:09
about getting older somehow gets kind of
26:11
stuck on you hear anything about
26:13
that it on that
26:14
a that's nothing
26:16
in context brain i
26:18
mean i can search for story
26:21
it'll come up sometimes articles
26:23
don't even have a date on them as it's a day
26:25
you know you have to look for it in own noticed
26:28
the door and it just looks like it was written yesterday
26:31
so sure somebody can go and look at photos
26:33
of
26:34
anybody frankly pretty much
26:36
and
26:37
and then go meet them into like oh
26:39
well as a general you looking at a picture
26:41
of them ten years old right
26:43
but everything seems so right now an immediate
26:46
vs looking at a magazine nineteen
26:49
five it is in context
26:52
there's ads in there and from nineteen
26:54
eighty five their articles about other
26:56
yes a people magazine or something there's interviews
26:58
with other people who are well known at
27:00
that time and nineteen eighty five so it's
27:02
all in context but we don't
27:05
there's no context on the internet is just
27:07
all material that could
27:09
have been written yesterday could have been written
27:11
ten years ago train and the photo
27:13
the i don't know to be from
27:15
the seventeen hundreds who knows
27:18
where you can tell the difference there but
27:20
i
27:20
oh my to do with that yes to
27:23
him in line with what you just said yeah
27:25
you live in hollywood or an ally
27:27
yet so i mean i would say like i'll have
27:29
a new york and whenever i go
27:31
there and i love ally and my dad
27:33
lives are my brothers and i'm there all the time
27:35
but i was seal a culturally
27:37
it's very different level
27:40
of pressure towards women l a
27:42
they the level of pressure for everybody
27:45
raves for men too many and i'm
27:47
pressures the wrong word i think so many
27:49
people come here having been
27:52
the prettiest girl in their little town or
27:54
brain made like an ivy league college
27:57
and yeah exactly and the next on
27:59
human side well don't mine in
28:01
our this the hundred and hundreds
28:03
of
28:04
the prettiest girls know town that come here but
28:06
you think cameo because they have actually
28:08
skillset you know they'll they'll be
28:10
in good shape yeah people are always looking for
28:12
talented individuals but you interestingly
28:15
when i started getting d ends
28:18
from readers about the book
28:20
the t m's an the press attention
28:22
everything was from all different types of people
28:24
from everywhere i mean
28:27
not just
28:28
small pounds all over the place in
28:30
the us but then also from
28:33
like
28:33
russia a korea really
28:36
are lots of
28:38
the i'm from australia
28:39
new zealand all over the place
28:41
people saying oh my god all my friends
28:43
are getting botox and i really don't want to
28:45
and as the ceiling really outside
28:48
the very being and alone and then finally
28:50
somebody saw talking about the some he saw thing about
28:52
this i don't just as
28:55
it i'm supposed to get my face
28:57
the cut up or punctured or whatever or
28:59
fine with it i don't wanna do it in any
29:02
way just it seems to be yes
29:04
it's a it's very unique types
29:06
of atmospheres as
29:08
far as looks go in los angeles
29:11
or new york that one can participate
29:13
in or not but i think this general
29:15
idea that you faces broke
29:17
the needs to be fixed seems to be pretty
29:19
prevalent
29:20
however and ear the good news
29:22
is it we don't have to subscribe to
29:24
it you can just go like mess
29:27
whatever of fear this brings up and me
29:29
i can deal with that fear and i don't have
29:31
to assume that my face
29:34
a hideous say that needs
29:36
to be cut and
29:38
did any even for anyone else who anyone
29:40
whose son work on their faces like
29:42
sign like you can do is your
29:44
body and skin and hair and you can do whatever
29:46
you want to it but if there was a sphere
29:49
that generated that action it
29:51
would behoove
29:52
you to deal with that the year so
29:54
that it doesn't stick around for
29:56
the rest of your life and drive you to do
29:58
there are things and
29:59
he'll sit on saturday
30:02
no matter what you do so what one of the things
30:04
i really want to talk to ban i know we're almost at a
30:06
time bed and forty four and
30:08
i grew up in the world of slater
30:10
he knows the models said we
30:12
grew up was more like a mars and that the
30:14
whole idea of like being really sense now
30:17
we have it's you go and mean
30:19
i was just now i like a weeks now
30:21
and like this thing that you'll see a new
30:23
york buddies clearly the standard
30:25
of beauty the more and more are enormous
30:28
spots dislike me say
30:30
this is a phenomenon you can only
30:32
achieve with surgery admitted saudi been
30:34
raided sites it's not a thing that
30:36
happens and normalized and
30:38
do you think at
30:40
all about their sort of larger
30:43
whole thrall weirdness
30:45
of this
30:45
now the
30:48
standard of beauty i mean it seems to
30:50
me like a very importance ah
30:52
feminists and or maybe and
30:55
the feminist thing that's happening
30:57
now where are you know that sort
30:59
of the ideal is something that is i
31:01
a naturally occurring i mean
31:04
it's an interesting subject to the whole
31:06
beauty stands the society and how they change
31:08
it's interesting that it's
31:10
not always but primary really
31:12
upon women and not man i mean
31:14
though they're been you know plenty
31:16
of beauty standards some men that is
31:18
chains insisted over the years but that's a whole
31:20
interesting subject there's a book by i'm
31:23
nancy at cause called the survival
31:25
of the prettiest that's the
31:27
kind of interestingly delves into that she's
31:30
a a harvard professor she's become
31:32
a a good friend she's interesting
31:34
writer
31:35
yeah i mean so am
31:37
sixty am sixty i saw the
31:40
you know really slanders sleeves
31:42
flat chested model standard
31:45
in the late seventies early eighties
31:47
and then came the
31:50
box some larger ships
31:52
kind of athletic looking christie brinkley
31:55
shirt or cheryl tesla more slender than christie
31:57
brinkley it's but that whole batch
31:59
of women
31:59
in the mid eighties and then
32:02
yeah they gave way to this keep myself
32:04
and i i mean it's p i think
32:06
the moria the more you see the history
32:09
of the series of beauty the more and
32:11
you can become relaxed about
32:13
your
32:13
own because you go over the cisco's
32:16
it's in a way that it's almost like
32:18
don't throw at you bell bottoms because of probably going to come
32:20
back it's like yeah we'll be happy
32:22
with whatever you've got
32:25
because
32:26
your body style of play come
32:28
into style athena within
32:30
your life times as
32:31
it's gonna go up and down up now all over the place
32:34
and you know or your your face
32:36
year you know you don't you
32:38
think i did it to have a beauty
32:40
standards that on attainable
32:43
through any possible diet
32:45
and exercise but meal but that
32:48
has to be achieved through surgery is like
32:50
a kind of paradigm shifts that we've never had
32:52
before sir i mean i'm
32:54
sorry don't like to take you on this topic
32:56
but this is like i'm definitely gonna write about this
32:58
but it seems important it's
33:00
when i think there's a lot of things that
33:03
can occur now that hadn't been that hadn't
33:05
been possible in the past because of scenario
33:07
for ability and as availability
33:09
you and seventies i'd i'd and
33:11
dennis i don't know this exactly but
33:13
i'm going to assume that faceless are more expensive
33:15
but then they are now speed right away
33:18
or and i guess i'm saying that now
33:20
for more com and now he
33:23
adds in their seats are now they're much save
33:25
for an hour surgery as much say there
33:27
and there's a lot of other techniques that one
33:29
can do to but i'm more interested
33:31
in in what's going on
33:33
in your head does one think
33:36
well i must do this otherwise
33:38
well not be accepted by the rest of the tribesman
33:41
on add me a no real core brain
33:43
level or i must do this
33:45
or i won't work again or i must
33:47
news or no one's gonna wanna sleep
33:49
with me and hi
33:51
seal that
33:52
the real fear is those
33:54
things that
33:55
you're concerned will happen if you don't have
33:57
the surgery is those fears will now
34:00
be satisfied with the change
34:03
an unruly target as he noted
34:05
get the what you brought up you know standard
34:07
of beauty well like i mean why
34:09
did i can be sear it can be seer base
34:12
like a seer that you
34:14
we all went through this and junior high poly something
34:16
like as i don't have those he has sailors
34:18
style you know teams
34:21
like i will i won't be
34:23
part of the group the a
34:25
lot about wanting to adhere to the standard of
34:27
beauty i think if someone really thinks
34:29
about it it's rooted in of fear
34:31
is that they won't be part of and
34:34
my whole thing for myself and my wish
34:36
for others is that they're just new not be
34:38
any a sphere
34:40
involved in their in their decisions
34:43
in their choices my
34:45
my song violet that i did
34:48
came out last year with olivia munn that's
34:51
all about that you know like and how do
34:53
you get from a life that is
34:56
a the i was foundation
34:58
is fear based decisions to a life
35:00
the his foundation is instinct best decisions
35:03
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35:06
good companion
35:06
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35:08
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