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Should Democrats Bother Going on Fox News?

Released Friday, 29th July 2022
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Should Democrats Bother Going on Fox News?

Should Democrats Bother Going on Fox News?

Should Democrats Bother Going on Fox News?

Should Democrats Bother Going on Fox News?

Friday, 29th July 2022
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we are are world has been turned upside

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down and on the new abnormal will talk

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about the people who got us into this mess and

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how will we get ourselves out of man

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this is one hell of a show tonight we're first

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good sorta with smith is the author of

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any given tuesday a political love

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story and of course a veteran democratic strategist

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for campaigns like mayor pete and know bama

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and she's the choices but her new books that

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were going to talk to a will be a joy yada you

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may know as an activism strangers

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for gens the for change of was caused

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quite a stir having a dust up with one

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match gates but first

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let's have some fun

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andy lazy molly

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john fast as vague and fourteen

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is what what is it that ever

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could it be

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the rnc is so sad

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at is is that they

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, trying anything they can

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to get trump to not

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announced before the midterms for because

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they're so sad at they're

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having trouble thinking of something right like that

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so they have decided said

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if he and now avoid them lit

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mid terms they were stop

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paying his legal fees because i

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don't have you know this but the leader of the

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disaster read or republican party isn't

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quite a lot of legal trouble it is

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since since he first of all it's

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, that the republican national committee

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is being trump's legal fees to begin with and

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it's pathetic was why

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i know i'm doing that thing again where i go

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out on a limb and you have any

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back in a service i

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apologize i apologize to our listeners

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i apologize to our viewers who watch

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us from their from their windows

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from their very creepy way on t

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c b l in columbus ohio

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the live feed of as his services

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absolutely insane but

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i love their logic for their logic

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is well it's it's if he's running

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for president then they can't

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the help him with legal bills because that would

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violate their neutrality policy

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where they have to treat all candidates equally

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and it's just hilarious

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but i think what we're seeing here in it's

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own aesthetic way as the rnc

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doing what rupert murdoch dead asleep and

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which was

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they stack the deck

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for trump and now all

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of his sad

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after on liz cheney

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handcuffed herself to him and jumped

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into the ocean it would be very

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hot

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for merrick garland not to charge

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when , fucking day you

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have to republicans up there being

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like prompted crimes yes

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but but don't underestimate my records

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yes i want our our

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haven't tried that we live in the city of

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the of or

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sorry trump didn't do enough wrong a

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synthesis aside besides

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words and sentences

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so i know i

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i still have faith that mara garland

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had such this up but i do the same

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bad january six committee you like it

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you don't and and look at no one

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here is this animals ten years i want to say

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that a

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for those of you in the back or not voting

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for a we don't like us dad probably

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belongs in the hague bar

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i'm not even any promises probably

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because i don't want to get sued side i think

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what's

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the only about this story is

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like they are

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starting to think how can

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they have an open

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my and get out of this thing of course

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the question is if you have an open primer

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with trump i mean it's like

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the world's most fuck a math

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problem may it like open primer would

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trump you would have to only have one

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candidate otherwise you're gonna have

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what happened in two thousand and sixteen rights

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which is marco and had split the vote

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and then that lunatic

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fringe goes for trump any wins even

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though he only has twenty percent or thirty

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forty five

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that certainly when biden

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looked like he was going to when people

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decided that biden should be the pet

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and they did in a very graceful

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and gracious way and it was smart

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and it worked and that's what

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ah bookends would have to do if they wanted to get richer

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i think what you're saying is owed when i'm taking

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from what you're saying is trump tends to suck

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the oxygen from all the

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other candidates if he's running that's

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what we saw and twenty sixty you have to

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get around a very you can't

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do that if you have three

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other candidates to sell splits about you

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can't have trump vs five people gift

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of trump vs one person and then maybe

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you have a shot yes i think both so things

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are true but i do also think that

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you could i mean you know you can ask for

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other candidates who were not

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look in twenty sixteen cruz and

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rubio seemed like senior

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choices than trump pretty we know now

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that that's not accurate sli

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wonder if cruz is worse for

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as bad as trump or he's funnier

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so in a way he's worse

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but the point is like i think in twenty twenty

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four you're not going to see a bunch

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of you know the candidates you can see

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if you can see like a descent is or and

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people like that's it's not going to be people

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who seem early sooner

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than trump on the issues anyway may

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seem seen her in a permanent it might

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be a slightly different beast and twenty twenty

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four but i still think your point holds i'd i

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think that if trump runs it's

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gonna be tossed to unseat him because

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he has the colt like following and

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any does to see draws the attention

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he says the things that draw the attention

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and the way he acts draws the attention

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and it makes it difficult for

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someone else in the room i'm not sure

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that's as true anymore though we

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don't know if the on see will win against trump

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but i do hope they destroy each other and as

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far as epstein i was googling

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i'm earlier today only to learn he was

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born in nineteen eighty three

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which means no swear

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to now look look it up right oh

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nineteen eighty know which means

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cs four years younger

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than just me and i and

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fourteen years younger than you and

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over here are some ,

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handedly visited the years and amazed

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oh boy

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abstain and want to georgetown

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ah mau is going to say okay

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it is going to know maybe

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without going to

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but it certainly looks like he's

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allowed

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apple so we're but talk about is that

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he wrote alternatives collect

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your suds better that fake electors and

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then put it a bogey after it so his youth is

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why use the about the most wow

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, a minute it easier for slick the

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with this behalf do

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that do an email to him ah

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okay okay okay i see

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good good point here though which

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is if you're going to do crimes

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don't use a mode jesus makes

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you want stupid yeah so let's let's

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let's lay out what happened years so steen

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epstein the anti

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semitic essential we should point

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out that a team is famous for beat the sinclair

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broadcast a propagandist right

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exactly say me and

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anyone

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involved in this kind of thing but he

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could still be jewish used your sorry

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ass i'm also sorry yes

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i'm sorry to be good for the jews

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and know you myself yes we're

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now intake and jews now yeah

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so he was part of the crew working

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with such notable

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crime doers as rudy giuliani

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and mark meadows sleep

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they began lead

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think he has began racing

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for at our house physicists as

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someone wrote a letter or in an email

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to epstein a lawyer in arizona

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named jack when she wrote that alternative

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votes is probably a better term than

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seek modes and then point a little smiley

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face mogi after it says

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it's just , selling

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and uses a alternative facts remember

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that yeah i think people have

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tried this before as you can't get out

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of crimes by saying well i put

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a happy to buy to can't write our well

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after something i think isn't good

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at the like i was kidding as i would you

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say i was kidding because they weren't

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kidding and sixteen

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though so yeah so

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might be going to jail

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when he was friends with eric

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yeah that would not in any way be a same

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it's really it's a real says murderer's

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row of people that he

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coordinated with jenna our spruce

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marks john east many to oh

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my god it's just i'd like

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he was knee deep in this and

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our hip deep or shoulder deep or lie

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they're the best nord the brightest says

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lot of fun stuff going

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on here it was sort of under the surface of the

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january sixth committee and by

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fun we me and we mean

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the death of democracy is mildly

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amusing oh yes of course

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of course but i small bus and we mean

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did some of these people might actually go to jail

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death or might not i refuse

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to underestimate marathon ireland's

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department of justice but ah i

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would you know i would like to see

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that some of these people will he'll

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do that

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in where they actually the

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time for committing the crime larry

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as yeah who knows i don't mind

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being wrong when it comes to

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our planet i had really

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side dead west virginia his

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own joe manchin would do

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me any time

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i met provisions and again

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we don't know as as and past yeah but

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ships past and then after

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subs past which is this tips

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the hidden built into semiconductors

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here which is something we really need

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because not god inactive

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be able to get a phone enact and ability get and car

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ads that to be able to make that semitism

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and since we don't have

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a

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it was super tight labor market

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it's not like we we definitely

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need more jobs here but anyway

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so develops of here it's good for any number

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of reasons it's about it's want to be rare

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bipartisan situations

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that we have any way that

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past and then sumer was able

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it looks like and again it's early days

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ten mins mans and to support us had

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a climax reconciliations

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he all which would be super

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excited and so lucky if that

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happens bravo trucks humor

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i will be the first to be throb andy

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thoughts questions comments discuss yeah

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i also am happy when

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you are wrong and rise is it's

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ah yes dismissed

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and this and this to it's good

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that manson is on board with to spill

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that said i am six

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of best way for me to put it about this is i'm

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cautiously pessimistic know

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it's good while because you know cinemas not

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on board yet and

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who the hell knows with her should want

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to donors to answer to and

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they may not like sybil she has to check

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with them and and she said she'll get that does next

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week i think that us

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from his know how they told her yard

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happy here at says so look

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to see what happens as it also you

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know they have to make sure that the senate

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the woman korean allows it

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to be approved on a city vote count

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instead of the sixty that use we need

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for for stuff like yourself

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who the hell knows but how does the senate parliamentarian

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had this much power i just i don't understand

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it

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does the senate parliamentarian have

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this the our i don't know really

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weekends when they had the same opera

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it is hard the parliamentarians

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exactly but anyway look i hope

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this works out i am i was pleasantly

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shocked ah as i think most

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people were when this was reported a

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day or so ago and the nice thing about

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this is died just from a pity spiteful

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perspective and lots of petty spiteful

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perspective that's my safer for such as

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sometimes it's the best prospective yeah

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mitch mcconnell got played maybe

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maybe my we'll see what happens it's is this bill

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goes through then and passes ten

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yes i do hope it's true feel

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awfully will find out mitch mcconnell got played

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because he said that guy

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he would not allow a vote army chips bill

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if there was gonna be the anything

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that for the plan and happened ever

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right with which was gonna come up for vote

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and he sort of got that deal and then the chip still

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went through and then like a day or two later they

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were like it shoots you most i care to do

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with benson and we're going to put up for votes

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so that is the had

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he spiteful fun part

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of this but obviously the important part

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is that at least

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maybe this bill will or

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something going to that i don't

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have to buy a real breather

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and scuba gear in order to

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live on this planet in twins when he thirty

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i mean that's the whole bread that is

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the hope that is the host

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will

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smith is the author of any given

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tuesday and a democratic strategist

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block

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who knew i'm norma less thanks for

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having me molly's so i

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wanted can't hear first of all congratulations

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on your of the bestseller sincere

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thank you are my daughters and still

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relies on cloud nine about of and i really appreciate

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that i wanna talk to you about

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mallory mcmorrow of a young

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lads so to me

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about see just released

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like incredible fund raising numbers

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right and the woman who attacked her

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raise two hundred and fifty dot assassin

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or not it's me about how democrats i mean it seems

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like what worse the democrats

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the hunchback

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the way republicans do

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these disgusting things to get their base excited

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democrats can do these not discussing

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things to get their base excited taught

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me about that

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yeah i'm so just i mean the background

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on and is mallory mcmorrow

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was called a groomer by one of her

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republican scaly

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eggs in the michigan senate is

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a d attacks came

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in and fundraising email

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from her republican colleagues mallory

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then gave a speech that one mega viral

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where she pushed back on the attack

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and spoke out as a straight

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christian mom and

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, you know that he won't land

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and really provided in a play bucks

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or democrats on how to push

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back against sees plane

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it is discussing claim some the right of

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skill whether they're groomers or sexualizing

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children are

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promoting pedophilia all the worst

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sort of tsunami

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the dog whistles best part

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is what

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came out publicly the day is

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that

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after all this unfolded the

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woman who law she had hacked made

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you are you thirty five dollars to fund raising a mouse

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while mallory raised over

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a million dollars because of at which is

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just incredible and over million dollars

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the incredible sums

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i'm sorry state senator and michigan

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and it's getting go a long way toward

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maoris call of slipping the michigan

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the

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then it's but what it does show

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is that we don't have to cower in fear

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when it comes

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they can't control worst will need you go

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down skill every single rabbit

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hole

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at the republicans want go down

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and

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every public policy debate

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and tell you know a biology class

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spied what it shows is that

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democrats to like fighters they do

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like people who push back and

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that republicans

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the families

16:26

there wars really are

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overpaid their hands their

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it on social issues generally what

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we've seen in recent weeks

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is that the republicans

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current is a far

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it's has really backfired

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on them was voters

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of all stripes and

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has really helps i think choose democratic

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enthusiasm that hasn't been there before

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yeah i think it seems i guess

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so one is it sing se you build

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then would i'm curious about

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is you talk a lot about

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democrats going on fox news and

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mayor

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it has a has done that pretty well explained

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to me the now for last was it would

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have a democrat you are and where

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you're running so let's use

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the example of mayor p i didn't

17:13

also talk about this topic for ever malia

17:15

and for mayor of keep going on fox

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is a no brainer

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on a campaign going on fox

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was an absolute no brainer first

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of all there's this idea that know damn

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of has watch fox which is completely

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completely misguided about

17:30

a third of all democrats the news

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from fox news and that

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am encouraged and it's the same across

17:37

racial demographics white democrats

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but you know democrats spock

17:42

democrats and it devices

17:44

audience as we know is monumental

17:47

the larger than a cnn

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and msnbc so

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you do reserve you know a large number of

17:54

democrats and

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when he went on during the campaign

17:57

you know his first segment on fox news

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is the com harper

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the he goes on fox news in

18:03

may

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i'm twenty nine seen and the

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in a week beforehand elizabeth

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warren says

18:09

the know how do you have basically how dare

18:11

he adds i hate for profit ratchet

18:14

and t skyn ojo health problems

18:16

are advertisers and all that

18:18

sort of stasi know as as elizabeth

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warren not going on fox news somehow

18:22

is gonna make a bankrupt or been a minute

18:25

make it not successful

18:26

in the height of delusion that

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with t v he went on there were one

18:30

point one million viewers for

18:32

the town hall which was three

18:34

or four times the audience that

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we had for any of this see a cnn are

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and n b c parent has those

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on fox the news and

18:43

he denounces both tucker carlson

18:46

and laura ingraham for their recent

18:48

hateful comments i think at the time i was

18:51

something about you know using their favorite

18:53

target i think as immigrants i think it was something

18:55

related to that and he gave

18:57

this masterful response

18:59

on abortion that has since gone viral

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i think i'd seven different times it's

19:04

said people to rediscover it every few months

19:06

where he pushed back

19:07

republican talking points on unless

19:10

trump ourselves

19:11

and it was a brilliant performance that

19:13

he went viral and so it wasn't

19:15

just some one point one million people

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from it's a false inside because

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the next day i had my media team

19:22

track and get me all the coverage it will lead

19:25

every single our on

19:27

msnbc and cnn those picks

19:29

up by the new york times washington post

19:32

entertainment outlets like tmz

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and people magazine and

19:37

the secondary coverage was even

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bigger than the one point one million

19:41

people who turned into town hall and

19:43

soupy going on fox news he

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didn't come to too late to veto fox

19:48

is worse instincts soon capitulate

19:50

to their what worse how

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he didn't go on and spew republican

19:53

talking points if anything see

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he gave really important counterprogramming

19:58

to the fox news on

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and that's why i believe

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democrats should go on because while

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we know that summers their hosts

20:06

my the actual and bad say

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a lot of viewers arts and

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that's the only way that

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get their news and that's the only way

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they're ever going to hear from democrats

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and what does it say about us

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as a party if we're too

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good too see earth's to

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talk to millions and millions of americans

20:25

who frankly need to hear our message

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to the message i think it sends

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is that we don't care about them we

20:32

don't have their votes in

20:34

their twenty's plenty campaign it was

20:36

important could provide a contrast

20:38

of donald trump's who is only going

20:40

on media outlets that reinforced

20:43

force his worldview staff were

20:45

right wing he didn't to

20:47

cnn i think once during his presence

20:50

so my question for you is

20:52

i don't think people think they're

20:53

he did provide say they feel

20:56

that he is like a place like oh i

20:58

am i'm just playing devil's advocate

21:00

here but if

21:01

going on a place like that you're giving

21:03

ed legitimacy and also

21:06

you're helping to give them program

21:08

and also they don't

21:10

tend a mean you'll see a lot of

21:12

times the size of a typical said you'll

21:14

see that these interviews

21:16

bad added it in my is

21:18

you don't necessarily see com and oh

21:20

and as a whole different beast i'm

21:23

i wouldn't advise any democrat to go out on

21:25

oil and split

21:26

the idea that fox is illegitimate

21:28

is an and i know you're not saying

21:30

and as illegitimate well i'm just

21:32

saying you're enable

21:33

wang something by going on

21:36

a right you're helping them make programming

21:38

and sell ads dry just

21:39

agree with that i know i think a the what you're doing

21:41

is you're communicating with people and i

21:43

understand that is a popular talking

21:45

point but like get i'm not saying that you're espousing

21:48

that talking point but if you don't

21:50

go on there than you are not

21:52

talking to voters and ways the

21:54

point of being a leader if you're not

21:56

willing to do that and fox is going

21:59

nowhere and had

21:59

not going to go is not gonna lose legitimacy

22:02

speak as p booty judge or elizabeth

22:04

warren are com my hair as or joe biden doesn't

22:07

go on there is still going be around

22:09

it just means that voters won't be hearing from

22:11

us and when pete those on their i've

22:14

never once

22:14

the candidate go on fox news and

22:17

and you know had

22:18

interviews he noted is deceptively

22:21

added added or anything like that sir

22:23

after they do a live head they'll have

22:25

house may be attacked them but yeah

22:27

that welcome to the big game that's what happens in

22:29

politics and stay would be attacks

22:32

whether or not they want on fox news so

22:34

the option is to just go on msnbc

22:37

and preach to the choir and then stab

22:39

at club played on fox news deceptively

22:41

or do go on fox news and make your case directly

22:43

to the for

22:44

cloudy and i wanted to kill

22:46

about com out there's a lot

22:49

dad went down in of really

22:52

have why i actually wanted

22:54

hunting

22:54

more about our cuomo's

22:56

power hungry ness backfired on

22:58

the on and on us and

23:00

i'm hoping you could start could start

23:03

bit about that

23:03

i think there's a really interesting

23:06

then for democrats

23:08

and also you know a sort of

23:10

moral lesson about what quo

23:12

did and enemies ultimately

23:15

if and it seems like they will democrats

23:17

lose the house

23:19

he will be

23:21

in in large part because

23:23

of a deal that andrew cuomo med the

23:25

nonpartisan at redistricting

23:28

was i was actually voters voted for the referendum

23:31

that created that what they voted and two

23:33

thousand and fourteen but he created

23:35

at and two thousand and twelve

23:36

the give democrats lose the house it's not because

23:38

i hundred of how i think that there's a lot

23:40

to blame say that i mean they're ten seats

23:43

that

23:44

they democrats can adapt

23:46

yeah well you know i'd ,

23:48

think a lot of that talk to the voters

23:50

the are covering for the non partisan thanks right

23:52

yeah but they didn't vote until after

23:55

promo made that deal in two thousand and twelve it's

23:57

core my and introduced it it wouldn't have existed

23:59

and one would have voted and there wouldn't

24:01

have been nonpartisan retested that night

24:03

i i think the goal of nonpartisan redistricting

24:06

is one that democrats should support

24:08

and democrats generally should support

24:10

why i think we should have nonpartisan redistricting

24:13

all across the country in all fifty states

24:15

yeah but we don't

24:16

we have democrats reason as we have

24:18

the ninety one say said seats and

24:21

hundred and sixty two says third seed

24:23

so democrats supported redistricting

24:25

and republicans now get the house how how

24:27

does that work five and republicans get the house

24:29

because of it's amid herrmann dead

24:31

voters and my goggles party buddha saying

24:34

the math as these are the same seats

24:36

are ready to so even if democrats

24:39

hundred sixty one safe seats versus one hundred

24:41

ninety one or hundred sixty two

24:43

vs one hundred ninety one set that has nothing

24:45

to do

24:45

whitman terms that has everything to do with

24:48

redistricting so the question is

24:50

like it's all fine and good

24:52

to support center as candidates and i know

24:54

that

24:54

the largely who use who you work

24:57

for by you're

24:59

undermining democracy even

25:01

if you don't know you're doing at like what

25:03

is happening i think that nonpartisan

25:05

very disheartening actually reinforces

25:07

democracy and or mother

25:09

the only worked for centuries candidates i

25:11

work from resemble candidates but how

25:13

would that be true when it comes

25:16

as a means you're gonna have a have a house

25:18

majority leader jim jordan like how

25:20

does that help democracy

25:21

i know i and look i totally hear your

25:23

point by i look i'm one of the civil who

25:25

the point nonpartisan resist charging i think

25:27

we should have a chance

25:28

as he states that we only have

25:30

it in blue states i get that democrats

25:33

shouldn't unilaterally disarm but

25:35

again point i would take up with the near photos

25:37

who who voted for this date but i'm

25:39

telling you the vote was too years

25:41

after two thousand and ten

25:43

cuomo ran a nonpartisan redistricting

25:45

for a second term because he wanted to run for

25:47

president because he wanted to look nonpartisan

25:50

two thousand and twelve he makes a deal in

25:52

the middle of the night which involves a budget

25:55

non partisan redistricting he throws

25:57

that redistricting to a group

25:59

the idea

26:01

many of whom these pics the

26:03

kind of informer did cathy hope it

26:05

was on your last episode she said that she

26:07

said you can the draw a straight

26:09

mine from family that the nonpartisan

26:12

redistricting

26:14

in this state the new york kill

26:16

and report i mean look on to come

26:19

out he's got the allegations he's got

26:21

this he's got that he's got the brother

26:23

with the cnn he's that's look there are a

26:25

lot of things

26:25

andrew cuomo for but

26:28

my mind his biggest

26:30

i'd say will be this point

26:32

noted ah since i

26:34

guess this is something wherever we fundamentally

26:36

disagree brian i look i understand

26:38

your point i just do not think

26:41

that politicians should draw their districts

26:43

i think that either dead sister to be

26:45

nonpartisan luck we clearly clearly

26:47

clearly disagree on this issue but in a situation

26:50

like this where

26:50

republicans are lying cheating and stealing

26:53

to when the house senate democrats

26:55

fight fire with fire mean you want them to go on

26:57

fox news why don't you want them to try to

26:59

keep the house

27:00

i wanted to the way for democrats to win

27:02

is to be to myers cheaters and

27:04

sealers i don't against the odd the democratic

27:06

party works i don't think that's awesome

27:09

our best i don't think that's when voters

27:11

response you well the idea that

27:13

for democrats to beat republicans is

27:15

that we have to be republicans is on

27:18

salacious to me and that was it

27:20

was some a viewpoint that was espoused by lot

27:22

of people about donald trump said

27:24

to beat donald trump we had to be ham

27:26

and no actually we had to be the complete

27:29

opposite of him and that's how joe biden was

27:31

able to win and and beat him and twenty twenty

27:33

i'm actually not saying that i'm just saying that

27:35

it's one parody part of it

27:37

needs is drifting and stuff going the house

27:39

then you should do partisan redistricting ill

27:42

because losing the house

27:44

the me and is worse

27:46

but the other thing is like for mode and do

27:49

this because he had love

27:51

of democracy he did this because he

27:53

thought it would help his presidential race but

27:55

but that is neither here nor there the

27:57

going to be president anymore and

27:59

hardware never was he was not someone who is

28:02

fell from a national campaign i mean can

28:04

you imagine that guy

28:04

the iowa gimme a break but here's

28:07

a question for you you were on cnn

28:09

the seat and then he said we don't need to

28:11

prosecute donald trump we need to beat him at the

28:13

ballot box i was soundly

28:15

disagree with

28:16

the and i'm curious you really believe that

28:18

know and frankly i think you're missing

28:20

then what i said which is that you

28:23

and i can't control whether donald

28:25

trump gets prosecuted

28:26

you and i can control who we about far

28:28

as and ultimately up to the d o j

28:31

it's ultimately up to in a us attorneys

28:33

and place i georgia to prosecute

28:35

am i don't profit sure

28:38

the tutorial powers but

28:40

what i can the hell and i came up for democratic

28:43

candidates i can vote for democratic candidates

28:45

who are standing up against trump his aunts and

28:47

i encourage everyone to do that

28:49

i figured there is a very misguided

28:53

zero on know laughs at times

28:55

at day or if we need to vie that route

28:58

there's can be this divine intervention that's gonna

29:00

help us beat trump that was of view

29:02

of the mall or reports and

29:04

it never happened and so as

29:06

voters we have to take our responsibility

29:09

seriously do seriously think that donald

29:11

trump is unfair for office and office and

29:13

o j to prosecute i'm sure you

29:15

understand that course i do i ground zero

29:18

for of the law i mean like you can

29:20

do a

29:20

oh and sort of larger issue

29:23

here is your merrick garland

29:25

and you while you know trump

29:27

on it overturned the likes and but it didn't work

29:30

was only an attempted to and will be

29:32

too divisive to prosecute him so let's let

29:34

him side on that you are saying

29:36

that democracy doesn't

29:38

really matter that

29:40

it don't matter as they're done by someone

29:42

powerful and important of it

29:44

and i'm by the way said something

29:46

we saw again and it then

29:48

in new york with sideman tried yvan

29:51

continually was i bothers person

29:53

is

29:53

important brodsky

29:54

i mean i will remind you that i

29:57

had a opportunity pass the wind

29:59

see them

29:59

did not until later when

30:02

and it's is the new up my see

30:04

it was built around the idea said

30:07

affluent white guys should sort

30:09

of get away with it and that's why donald trump

30:11

is an hasn't been in jail now and meet only

30:13

was very

30:14

the would happen you find people

30:16

who are affluent white guys who have ended up going into

30:18

jail and europe a mad is quite

30:20

frankly because of people

30:22

like warm outside dance and i mean it

30:25

has been like though affluent white

30:27

guy slime rang in

30:29

america to one of speak in maryland

30:32

yes do i since he should prosecute

30:34

donald trump absolutely i don't

30:36

have his cell phone number his don't know what he's don't

30:38

i am seen as interviews and it

30:40

does seem like city does j finally is

30:42

taking this seriously it's an

30:45

this gonna act on it but i mean i'm

30:47

just saying the idea of like we need to be

30:49

them on the ballot box and if there's no

30:51

law and it doesn't apply to people

30:53

then it doesn't matter how hard to vote right

30:56

i fundamentally disagree here disagree think people

30:58

should vote i think voting is important

31:00

and think think that as important incredibly defeatist

31:03

attitude and is the wrong message the

31:05

sense of there's no i obviously

31:07

been voting as important admit i you know but

31:09

the saying that yes you

31:12

have a d o j that doesn't get the five

31:14

then ultimately

31:16

the matter how hard to bow

31:18

you were saying that we have a d o j that doesn't

31:20

give us thought well i'm just saying if

31:22

my or garland decides is too divisive

31:25

to prosecute trump and that

31:27

trump should have another sad at a tail

31:30

then ultimately no matter how hard

31:32

you vote and again listen i vote

31:34

hard we have lots of candidates on

31:36

all we do and how people devote

31:39

i mean that's like hundred i've never

31:41

voted for a third part

31:42

the candidates i mean i'm not

31:44

saying

31:45

by any stretch of the imagination the people

31:47

involved but i'm

31:48

they're saying that if you will have a d

31:50

o j that doesn't give a fuck and you're

31:52

telling

31:53

the ball

31:54

the

31:54

i have to be the change is

31:57

kind of preposterous

31:58

so i don't think that we have to make

32:00

a choice that i said said c o j

32:02

can act and that neither

32:04

you nor i am ,

32:06

knows what's happening behind the scenes and c o

32:08

j although recent news stories

32:11

seem to suggest said they are

32:13

more active and look i understand

32:15

and is very popular for people on twitter

32:18

to attack merrick garland and

32:20

try to pretend that they know everything that he's

32:22

doing spite it is pretty smart

32:25

smart both merrick garland and

32:28

in department of justice to

32:30

act in act manner that is the opposite

32:33

of how did have some c some j

32:35

i said which is dances as his personal lawyer

32:38

he completely politicized video

32:40

chats and i understand that there are

32:42

people again on the last who

32:44

want us to act the same way

32:46

that trump said that want us to politicize

32:49

every institution and make

32:51

them above and law use it to

32:54

armed are you know destroy the right

32:56

or whatever it is by you know

32:58

of a race to the bottom isn't gonna help anyone

33:01

in stock and out the democratic party and it's socket

33:03

out the american people and so

33:05

i am for one am grateful

33:07

to have grateful president who believes

33:09

in the power of our institutions and

33:11

you have and d you j that has the integrity

33:14

to one not

33:15

the of go out and and

33:17

if you'd always in the media puts

33:19

you doesn't feel like it's job is to

33:21

act as the president's personal lawyer

33:24

but don't you think that they should go out and

33:26

prosecute in the media likes for example

33:28

where there is a large part of

33:31

this country are you just said that gets

33:33

all it's news from fox

33:34

it a third a third of all democrats

33:36

that he said that although news from fox

33:39

yeah so is that is true

33:41

then democrats have to go out

33:44

and prostitute trump and the media will

33:46

i think we arm i mean when that make sense

33:49

merrick garland know i don't know

33:51

privateers don't do that good prosecutors

33:53

makes the case spine the scenes

33:56

and then go out and prosecutor for up everything

33:58

on things on because the

33:59

going out and prosecuting the case

34:02

in the media but that is very separate

34:04

from the role of the d o j an eye

34:07

on do not think that said

34:09

the side and d o j said try to emulate

34:12

trump c o j and party

34:13

the reason why trump is in a pickle that

34:15

he is an beyond the elder

34:18

repair his crimes committed

34:20

one hundred statuary sex said that

34:23

are horrifying and undermine our democracy

34:26

is that he you know use these

34:28

sacred sort of institutions

34:30

as young his personal employs

34:33

let's take you so much lower at lower at

34:35

this guide i'm okay great thank

34:37

you for having me they yell

34:40

the will be a juliana is an activism

34:42

strategist agenda z for change

34:44

welcome to the new up north

34:46

oh my bf thank you so much for having

34:49

me

34:49

well we're very excited to have you sell

34:51

first small you're nineteen right

34:53

yeah okay most important now i got

34:55

sober when i was nineteen so like a big fan

34:58

of been nineteen i think it's it's very important

35:00

age so explain to eyes

35:03

this story you were an activist

35:05

for for you see super

35:08

for mad gates but you're a fundraising

35:10

our has now explained to us

35:12

yeah so my first real

35:15

introduction into abortion

35:17

either to sing work when last year right

35:20

allies put out this time

35:23

where you could smoke poor people who

35:25

had abortions the and at the time out of the

35:27

tip soccer had about one hundred thousand dollars

35:30

i called my followers to

35:32

send an quote very real submissions

35:37

eventually

35:38

inundated it to the point where it was taken down

35:40

and completely useless and

35:43

an organization is like organization nationwide

35:45

or right to life and eight yards

35:47

to create another to climb stairs

35:50

like that so for the last

35:52

year i just have only been

35:54

involved in abortion advocates

35:56

the and persuade their social media i still

35:58

cannot the tricks

35:59

multiple times and

36:02

this past week i was not

36:04

surprised to see matt days doing

36:06

something very and on brand

36:08

with what methods does which is to be

36:10

disgusting and a creep right

36:13

now

36:14

i saw the video from the turning point

36:16

usa the action summer where he

36:19

was talking about like abortion rights activists

36:21

physically saying like they're all that neglect

36:24

right now i sighed to ask my

36:26

initial reaction was like the

36:29

all people what ruined his mandates

36:31

have to talk about physical

36:34

, appearance about

36:36

it he says it's a seat is

36:38

like oh like three three

36:40

hundred fifty pounds and

36:42

so i tweeted out i was like i've actually

36:44

five eleven six four and he

36:46

or i wear them to reminds mom

36:48

and my you have your place suggested

36:50

in like three months because

36:52

his response was to tweet out

36:55

my profile picture alluding to

36:57

the fact that i fit the description

36:59

of what divorce rights activist is that

37:01

he gave his turning point usa speeds

37:05

honestly people ask me like what my initial

37:07

he was when i saw that he had done mans

37:10

stay and i last i

37:12

laugh because i knew that i was not

37:14

a woman this man's day and company

37:16

said

37:17

and so what did you do

37:19

shot back on twitter i spoke tweeted

37:21

at and i said like

37:23

the my not a little too old for you allegations

37:29

that then brought forward against

37:32

mr gates previously in the news

37:34

and i also a oh tweeted

37:37

it with a picture of the rope and butthead

37:39

cartoon i don't know if you've seen as what i said

37:41

you would really look like this may

37:43

at least she'll of the century

37:44

i think i got like

37:47

be sixty thousand likes he got

37:49

like a thousand and so from

37:51

there i was just like you know why i

37:53

have attention have attention now people are

37:55

starting to com or in the news on the do

37:57

what i

37:58

birch to with his paw

37:59

now familiar and how we can

38:02

help people get access to the health care of any it's

38:04

so i tweeted out in honor

38:06

of mack a punishing me i'm

38:09

going to start fund raising for

38:11

abortion funds through the gente person's

38:13

abortion on which we started after row

38:15

fell for this

38:18

this gone mad a viral

38:20

ban on the so blown away

38:23

by this how many people have supported

38:25

me in this movement

38:27

that is so cool so tell me how much

38:29

money raised as of right now we've raised

38:31

a little over seven hundred thousand dollars

38:34

in the last three days out to me about

38:36

the dnc activism

38:39

group and what that as a so we

38:41

aim for change it a coalition

38:44

of over five hundred digital media creators

38:46

primarily based on tik tok and

38:48

we have a combined audience

38:50

about five hundred million people are

38:52

mean goals

38:53

innovation is to promote

38:55

the civic engagement it's an progressive

38:58

progress especially amongst the dnc

39:00

so that's why i

39:02

really like

39:03

my father to the has a lot of people

39:05

think because we're young that we are go

39:07

why were naive war ignorance

39:10

when the reality is i'm the

39:12

bleeding political strategist for

39:14

one of the largest youth run

39:16

nonprofits in the country and we very

39:18

successfully fought back against

39:21

are probably politicians in the past the sin

39:23

of incident me now

39:24

new several times your

39:26

in process right yes

39:28

yes exists so what is it

39:30

might being on the ground

39:32

there and having a governor

39:35

who is so

39:36

committed to not

39:39

serving the interests of local texans

39:41

that was a good question very nonpartisan

39:45

i hate him like when every fiber of

39:47

my being my being he's one of the worst people

39:49

to ever exist because like

39:52

what a lotta people don't realize is

39:54

there's the republican theatrics

39:56

an outrage cycle

39:58

so they haunt happening

39:59

someone over these like for

40:02

all these shoes that are nonexistent

40:04

slide critical right ferry and

40:06

like op ed specifically he

40:08

makes people not about these very non

40:10

is this an issue so that he can do things that

40:13

are extremely harmful and

40:15

dangerous under the radar

40:17

so if we'd seen a lot about all abortions

40:19

horrible we're going to ban a bore sense

40:22

and he does this so we don't talk

40:24

about the fact that after the taxes winter

40:26

storm happened he made four point

40:28

six million dollars for energy the news

40:30

and energy energy industries to this campaign

40:33

so it's it's most

40:35

infuriating things have to deal with us on a daily

40:37

basis but it's also extremely motivating

40:39

speak eyes were actively

40:41

organizing against people who deserve

40:44

can be organized and danced and

40:47

amateurs motivating the car

40:49

for a few moat his ass

40:50

in november so it's

40:52

really beautiful and he needs is thus way to

40:55

describe it so

40:55

finally would happening with your power beds

40:58

texas decided that regulating

41:01

the

41:01

read it was like a liberal

41:03

post

41:04

then saying and that they would have

41:06

the old our they had because their taxes

41:09

and it basically it's been an unmitigated

41:11

disaster is that right

41:13

that pretty well the have days

41:16

now in texas i mean it's like

41:18

ninety plus degrees there were they tell

41:20

you to conserve energy and that can you explain

41:22

that to us yeah absolutely so like

41:24

i was absolutely phenomenal two weeks

41:27

ago i was on a planes d c

41:29

for work and my sister

41:31

who lives in season as well i

41:34

texted me about ha

41:36

like we were buying this like backup

41:38

generator because the telling us to conserve

41:41

power again in the governor had

41:43

asked people to conserve power because

41:45

like the grid obviously it's

41:47

was struggling to keep up with the man

41:49

because of how high it was i think when i flew

41:52

out as you stand the heat index of like

41:54

a hundred and fourteen degrees some

41:57

people were been told to work

41:59

there about

41:59

where i don't tax

42:00

this is my apartment complex i would like don't

42:03

me is the washers try not use

42:05

your stove keep the lights off

42:07

turn your a seen a like seventy

42:09

nine degrees so these messages

42:12

and things that taxes are getting both

42:14

in winter and in summer cynicism

42:16

consistently happening since the great feels

42:19

like i think it was february january

42:21

february twenty twenty one so it's it's happening

42:23

now on a more and more regular basis

42:26

how to me about what it's like

42:27

for a woman who wants to get an abortion and

42:30

texas right now and the entire process

42:32

is terrifying some you even for me

42:34

as someone talks

42:37

abortion or mine i have to be careful

42:39

with the way that i do it because of

42:41

the civil law enforcement law and even

42:43

now like the texas freedom

42:45

caucus which isn't a state legislator

42:48

the going after businesses

42:51

that

42:51

wanting to cover travel costs for their

42:53

employees to get abortion saying let's say you

42:55

can't do this we're going to pass a law

42:57

that says you can do this

42:59

the been higher prices is terrified because

43:01

you're actively every step

43:03

of the

43:04

they've been washed

43:06

by the census government me now they

43:09

they're even trying to make is where you can even get abortions

43:11

may not make fab it's already pushed for that

43:14

so in the same such as at this

43:16

moment abortion is pretty much nonexistent

43:19

and even after trying to get one

43:21

it's could potentially

43:23

this you in trouble finding women's

43:25

bodies are literally being criminalized the or

43:27

was a few months ago a woman

43:29

in starts on he was arrested on

43:31

a murder charge for what

43:33

was called a self induced

43:36

abortion which is also

43:37

what are spontaneous abortion are

43:39

a miscarriage and she was arrested

43:42

on a murder charge for that so it's

43:44

absolutely terrifying to be a woman

43:46

in the states who wants to make bodily

43:48

autonomy choices because the government

43:51

has actively criminalizing your body

43:53

and taking away your freedom to choose that

43:55

is really scary and it must be also

43:57

it's also scary because if you have a moscow

43:59

the you're

44:00

a person of interest riot

44:03

absolutely you medically you can't have

44:05

a difference

44:05

between a miscarriage and

44:07

or one of your doctor the treatments for

44:10

the aftermath is the same so now

44:12

people who will have miscarriages

44:15

could be potentially afraid to even go to the hot

44:17

that all because it they could be

44:19

reported as someone

44:20

that would add a self induced abortion

44:23

and the president has already been said that they

44:25

the really couldn't be arrested for that

44:28

that is completely crazy

44:30

so what are you gonna do now what's your

44:32

seats are i ever would

44:34

have some of my age sheer i'm i am

44:36

a college

44:37

the the i would literally start my

44:39

sophomore year of college next

44:42

week but i'm just

44:44

gonna continue working with a half

44:46

in the last year and a half with jersey for

44:48

he or and with praxis

44:50

democrats candidates to tried

44:52

to flip praxis blue and

44:54

do everything i can with the social media

44:57

power that i have to make

44:59

a tangible difference in the country and in the world

45:01

because we need young people who

45:03

are fighting back for what the

45:05

the even and making their voices heard and i

45:07

hope i can continue to

45:08

one of those voices

45:10

my my generation and jesse centers

45:12

in his generation acts and were

45:14

like a disaster we have supporters

45:17

and me were just a second train back

45:19

give it your generation is

45:21

different and how

45:22

i think so i think that

45:25

our generation has a

45:27

really unique place and history

45:29

and the way that we've gone through these kind

45:32

of generally sold for hamas

45:34

together anemia think we

45:36

have never lived in a world where like

45:38

nine eleven didn't happen with

45:40

added bonus or nine eleven so

45:43

we were born into

45:44

the weren't near on terror we

45:46

the dot with armor multiple

45:48

economic recession be dealt

45:50

with school shootings he dealt with climate

45:52

change that all these different things have happened

45:55

and it's not like in the past

45:57

where it happens and it's on the phone

46:00

the clock news that she watch with your parents

46:02

it's fine

46:03

the social media constantly and you

46:05

have your phone all the times the you're

46:07

constantly being inundated with new

46:10

information about

46:11

any given socio political issue

46:13

that's happening at any given time and

46:15

so i think because of that stems

46:18

he has become

46:18

the piper informed and hyper

46:21

aware of all the issue is

46:23

that it's also given us tools

46:25

that

46:25

no wonder generation has had access to

46:27

and terms of mobilizing stand

46:30

organizing to fight back against

46:32

the things that we think are oppressive or

46:34

wrong settings that we've seen young

46:37

people are extremely motivated to

46:39

fight back against these injustices

46:42

i mean even in the last few election cycles

46:44

we've seen more and more young people

46:46

break records and turn out to

46:48

go especially in twenty twenty expand

46:51

i've one hundred percent attribute

46:53

that to the usages social media

46:55

and mobilizing young voters across the country

46:58

the i know that chassis and i have talked about

47:00

this like when you see these turning

47:02

point usa conferences

47:04

where are these people are like

47:06

i mean you know getting

47:09

it

47:09

it did in one thousand jade says disparaging

47:11

things about women's i mean are you

47:14

worried for your generation or do you feel

47:16

there's a nasa of you guys on

47:18

this sort of right side of history that

47:20

once out for that you guys are

47:23

actually more progress as

47:25

yeah so i actually grew

47:27

up in a conservative christians

47:29

also been a very small conservatism

47:31

and texas the i have a little bit more

47:34

insight

47:34

in few why republicans

47:37

and conservative people

47:39

when it comes to these political issues

47:41

says one thing is conference as i see other

47:43

young people who are conservative or republicans

47:46

a lot of people's initial reaction of with disgust

47:49

her anger but honestly when i see

47:51

it also kind of that because

47:54

at one point in my life like you know i was

47:56

one of those kids who just i believe everything

47:59

was told movie

47:59

the my life and it whether until i was able

48:02

to do my own research and form

48:04

own opinions that i realized that those

48:06

talking point the had been set as a kid will bombs

48:09

and so i think saw their

48:11

a lot more young people who

48:13

are ready and willing to do the

48:15

research make their own opinions and not just

48:17

listen what their parents have to say i

48:20

think more and more of us young

48:22

people who are on the democratic side are

48:25

ready and willing to talk to those

48:27

who are on the opposing

48:29

the political ideology and kind

48:31

is he is anyway me ten every

48:33

move them more towards our side i think

48:36

common grounds and

48:37

common decency as a lot more common among

48:39

search generation that people would think i

48:41

want to end with that because that's so wonderful

48:44

and i hope that's i love that adds

48:46

thank you so much and so

48:48

will move to have the ale i don't think

48:50

of myself as sensitive but i'm sort of well and up

48:53

chelsea are you welling i'm a i'm

48:55

not i'm involved with what's like it can be

48:57

too many emotions

49:01

the leaving molly john says

49:03

who is your fact that guy he's

49:05

a guy who ran for president briefly

49:08

and he's a guy who ran for

49:10

mayor of new york city a little

49:13

the longer i guess maybe

49:15

failed to both of them so

49:17

what do you do when you consistently fail

49:20

you move forward am

49:22

i right and so he

49:24

is a starting a new political

49:27

party a third party called forward

49:29

see what i did there yeah he

49:31

and christine todd whitman

49:33

who used to be the governor of new jersey

49:36

before herself becoming a failed presidential

49:38

candidate they're going to launch this party in

49:40

september and they have

49:42

and on believable

49:44

little catchphrase it's how

49:46

will we solve the big issues facing america

49:49

not left not right forward

49:52

that means nothing that means

49:54

absolutely nothing that means

49:57

absolutely nothing at best

50:00

we will do is nothing at worst

50:02

it will me be size

50:05

and some moderates

50:07

away from the democrats

50:10

is by guess down but i don't

50:12

even think it's gonna do that these people

50:14

are i don't i don't want to see dom

50:16

i guess they're not dumb by the

50:18

foolish and anyone gives money

50:21

to this thing is for was first more you can't have

50:23

a viable third party in america because we have

50:25

our incredibly , up

50:27

electoral system that completely

50:29

prevents that makes it impossible

50:31

yeah age it's just it's literally

50:34

impossible ross perot spent however

50:36

many millions of dollars of his

50:38

own money to run for president

50:41

and dot as many as electoral votes as

50:43

i did the euro notes right

50:45

so it doesn't matter that he got nineteen

50:47

percent of the popular vote or whatever it was he

50:49

got zero electoral votes and

50:52

that's not a great return on your money and

50:54

it's the same things can happen years it's it's

50:57

absolutely impossible the only thing it does

50:59

is somehow build the ego

51:02

of or you know sylvie

51:04

ego of of the of people

51:06

like andrew yang

51:08

it's just completely tone

51:11

deaf to be doing this right now and

51:13

for all those reasons and many

51:15

more fuck that guy i

51:18

know you agree with the molly that we can just move on to

51:20

yours yeah knows he is the worst

51:22

i do want to hear you are fuck that guy is my

51:24

thought that guy is the

51:27

word supreme court said in a dorm a

51:29

know hub said before the other

51:31

people were the worth it in context is hop

51:33

over

51:34

he didn't manage to

51:35

talk about clarence thomas who actually is the

51:37

worst spend court

51:38

though he that the youngest

51:40

okay so technically you could

51:42

the done that i can amy com he buried

51:44

i'm gonna go is justice thomas

51:47

nerf because he did do his own

51:49

we should also

51:51

the river gay marriage but not

51:54

interracial marriage that was

51:56

a he says

51:58

said of whatever

51:59

while so this is thomas

52:02

was planning to go

52:04

and teach at george

52:06

washington university near

52:09

his home in washington or

52:11

in one of the washington suburbs

52:13

i cannot say which one because i would never

52:16

want to get assist of taxing

52:18

him but he was supposed to

52:20

do

52:21

sort of you know t w he

52:23

was gonna lecture and he was gonna talk about how

52:25

great he was all the rides he's

52:27

planning to take or it as sessions

52:29

wow that was a lot of students

52:32

who wrote a long not bunch

52:34

of different letters and petitions because

52:36

you know why they don't want that

52:38

guy who's using all these

52:41

murders ill as our ,

52:43

reasons to take away their rights coming

52:46

to their last costs and you know what's

52:48

good for them so i'm sure

52:50

i can't imagine this one up and up

52:52

on fox news as like a liberal

52:54

and tolerance to important conservative

52:57

ideas that you know what he gets to

52:59

take away our rights dozens at the

53:01

letters about them as

53:03

, the country amounts of capitalism

53:05

works so a hurry

53:07

the deal for the worst number of the supreme

53:09

court justice clarence thomas absolutely

53:12

agree and also absolutely agree

53:14

that this will be held up as an example

53:16

of horrible cancel culture

53:18

area

53:20

jesse watters this is one

53:22

for you

53:23

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53:27

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