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This is a global player.

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Original Podcast: Winston Churchill once

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remarked that success is not

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final. Failure is not fatal.

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It has the courage to

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continue that counts. While. This

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campaign has ended. The mission continues

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down here in Florida. We will

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continue to show the country how

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to lead. Thank. You and

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God Bless. That.

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Was run. Dissent is

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the Republican hopeful for

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President pulling out of

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the race with a

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quotes. From. Checks.

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It's. Not. Winston Churchill

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actually. A Budweiser Campaign.

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With the Reebok with thing

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is that it sounded Churchillian

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it wasn't It was a

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campaign ad for. Beer.

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But have you ever heard

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a Churchillian line? Being.

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Delivered with any

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less flourish then.

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Rhonda. Scientists gave it their

1:01

he's reading of notes he

1:04

has surrendered. He has hoisted

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a white flag. It's over

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a what probably could be

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termed the worst political campaign

1:14

in primary history. Welcome.

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To a bonus special edition

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episode of News Agents Usa.

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His job. it's family. And it

1:29

was just a nice little Sunday night

1:31

where we were all settling down. I

1:33

was watching Meet The. Press the U

1:35

S sort of morning. Show where

1:38

they just announce that Rhonda Sound, who

1:40

was meant to be appearing, hadn't appeared.

1:42

In fact, he pulled out of all

1:44

his media appearances in New Hampshire ahead

1:47

of the New Hampshire Primary tomorrow night.

1:49

And within about half an hour

1:51

of that ending, there was suddenly

1:54

a flurry of activity And to

1:56

people that I follow closely on

1:58

twitter, Sunny started saying. We're hearing

2:00

things about Ron DeSantis and then the

2:02

voices grew and within minutes of that

2:06

landing, Ron DeSantis had pulled

2:09

out of the race.

2:11

And you're right, to put Ron DeSantis

2:13

in context, I'm probably going to go out on

2:15

a limb here and say he is

2:17

worse than Donald Trump.

2:20

I mean, he would actually be, I think,

2:23

a worse nominee and potentially

2:26

a worse president than Donald

2:28

Trump because he has

2:30

so little grasp of who he

2:32

is even trying to be. The

2:35

best he could offer the Republican

2:37

Party was, I am

2:39

the Donald Trump if anything happens to

2:42

the real one. It was like watching

2:44

a body double, a stuntman trying to

2:46

be Donald Trump, but not really

2:48

get anywhere close. Well, he was trying

2:50

to argue, look at me, I'm Ivy

2:53

League educated, I was a Navy SEAL,

2:55

I am Donald Trump without the chaos. And

2:58

in fact, I'm even more Donald Trump,

3:00

more, because I think that him appointing

3:02

Anthony Fauci was a terrible thing. I

3:05

think these vaccines for Covid, awful. What

3:07

were people doing? Why were people locking

3:09

down? And that was the lane that

3:11

he chose to swim in. His problem

3:14

was that he is basically

3:16

one of the most unlikable men you

3:18

will ever come across. And

3:20

I've heard this from so many people from

3:23

the former North Carolina congressman who said that

3:25

when people used to approach DeSantis, he

3:27

was in the House of Representatives, he'd put

3:29

his AirPods in and pretend to be having

3:31

a phone call so that he didn't have

3:34

to speak to another human being. And actually,

3:36

most people didn't come across him for that

3:38

reason, because on his campaign, he

3:40

insisted on private travel, private jets.

3:42

We understand he spent somewhere in the

3:44

region in Iowa alone.

3:46

He basically dedicated the last year

3:49

to trying to win the Iowa caucus, the results

3:51

of which came through last week. He spent between

3:53

$100 and $150 million just on that part. please.

4:00

Sorry. Upwards of a hundred

4:02

million and for a caucus

4:04

in one small state where he secured enough

4:09

votes to make each

4:11

one worth big reveal

4:14

six thousand dollars. And how many counties did he

4:16

win in the course of spending 150 million? Well

4:18

let's talk about how many he visited because he

4:20

visited 99 counties. He

4:23

did the most thorough analysis

4:25

of the state of Iowa. There

4:27

was no Denny's. He left unturned. Well

4:29

probably he didn't go near Denny's I'm

4:31

not imagining but. Chick-fil-a. What was a

4:33

Chick-fil-a man I reckon? Probably to the

4:35

door but no further. And going back to

4:37

your airports thing he went

4:39

to every county to try and

4:42

win the hearts and minds of

4:44

Iowans and he won precisely none.

4:47

And just if you're catching up with like who is Rhonda

4:49

Santos why is everyone talking about him now? Let's just

4:51

go back a tiny bit for you because

4:54

he has been the governor

4:56

of Florida in the

4:58

midterms two years ago. He won

5:00

with such resounding victory and force

5:02

that the crowds there were shouting

5:04

two more years. Two more years.

5:06

Normally they shout four more years.

5:08

Two more years meant go on

5:10

and become the nominee. Go take

5:12

that to the presidency. And in

5:15

Florida he made his name by as Sopes

5:18

was saying being anti-vax, being anti-lockdown

5:20

measures. All the things that to

5:22

go back to my original point

5:24

make Trump look relatively sane even

5:27

though America had one of the worst

5:29

Covid crisis of anywhere in the world.

5:32

And then DeSantis kind of doubled down

5:35

and he made woke his thing. He

5:37

couldn't go through his speech without mentioning

5:39

woke six times. He tried to stop

5:41

kids education from arguing about sort of

5:43

past history America's history because he didn't

5:45

want them learning about slavery. He brought

5:48

in a six-week abortion bill. He picked

5:50

a fight with Mickey Mouse.

5:52

I mean literally he had a fight,

5:54

a lawsuit with Disney in

5:57

the state that has Disney World.

6:00

And that was a hugely bruising

6:02

battle. And you know, this whole

6:04

kind of policy of don't say gay, which

6:06

was the kind of education policy that

6:08

you should not talk about any of

6:10

these issues to youngish kids. And

6:13

I think that offended a huge number

6:15

of Disney employees. He didn't care, he

6:17

couldn't see a culture war or a

6:19

potential culture war that he wasn't going

6:21

to join. He just wanted to take

6:23

up the cudgels. And if you listen

6:25

to more of that resignation statement from

6:27

him, that is absolutely the tenor of

6:30

it. This is America's time for choosing.

6:32

We can choose to allow a border invasion

6:34

or we can choose to stop it. We

6:37

can choose reckless borrowing and spending,

6:39

or we can choose to limit

6:41

government and lower inflation. We

6:44

can choose political indoctrination, or

6:46

we can choose classical education.

6:49

These choices are symptoms of

6:51

the underlying struggle to ensure

6:53

that constitutional government can endure

6:56

and that Western civilization can

6:58

survive. And we launched this

7:00

campaign to bring accountability to government, regain

7:02

sovereignty at our border and restore sanity

7:05

to our society. We cannot

7:07

succeed as a country if we allow

7:09

our nation to be invaded, our

7:11

currency to be debased, our cities

7:13

to crumble and our kids to

7:16

be indoctrinated. But ultimately on

7:18

the road, politics is about

7:21

retail. Can you smile at people?

7:23

Can you be nice to people? Can you be

7:25

charming, have a joke, have a laugh, be empathetic

7:27

when they tell you about their life? Sorry. And

7:30

the scientists could not do any of it. It

7:32

was like someone had said to me, you've got

7:34

to smile. And it's this face kind of goes

7:36

into a contortion and you think it might crack

7:38

because of smile. Yeah, and a terrible voice as

7:40

well, I think. I mean, it sounded

7:43

like, you know

7:45

what they talk about? So deep fake AI. You

7:48

sounded like you already had a sort of deep

7:50

fake AI kind of voice. You're

7:52

right. It didn't sound like it connected

7:54

on any human emotional level

7:56

at all. And yet, you know, to

7:58

be fair, people love to. governor

8:00

they thought that he could be

8:02

a viable alternative to Donald

8:04

Trump if the lawsuits got the better of

8:07

Trump and he launched I mean just to

8:09

take you back to that moment he launched

8:11

his campaign. Oh we're going back to that

8:13

moment. It

8:15

wasn't a moment so much as a

8:17

really painful hour. Alright

8:22

sorry about that we we've got so many people here

8:24

that I think we are we are

8:26

kind of melting the servers. If

8:29

they just keep crashing. I think

8:33

we're back online here. Alright

8:38

well it's certainly an incredible

8:40

honor to have Governor DeSantis

8:43

make this stark announcement. So

8:50

are you there? Can you hear us? I think you broke the internet

8:55

there. And he decided that Elon Musk

8:58

was his route to you know more

9:00

adventurous and more social media friendly and

9:02

launched the campaign it all went really

9:04

badly wrong it was like watching a

9:06

rocket launcher that didn't get off the

9:08

ground and I think at that point

9:11

he started to look dare I

9:13

say a little bit silly. And

9:15

that was something that he could not

9:18

cope with and the parodying of him

9:21

whereas Trump can laugh some of it off

9:23

and play up to it at times even

9:25

though Trump has got a legendary thin skin.

9:27

DeSantis just didn't have the range the emotional

9:29

range to deal with any of those sort

9:32

of things. He

9:34

really is an extraordinary politician

9:36

but ultimately he then suffers

9:39

month after month after month of

9:41

being denigrated by being abused by

9:44

the Trump campaign by being told

9:46

you're absolutely useless to be humiliated

9:48

and kind of. Let's run through

9:50

some of the nicknames for him.

9:52

Oh, shall we? Let's let's let's.

9:54

The problem with Ron just saying

9:56

Timonius is that he needs a

9:58

personality transplant. And those are

10:01

not yet available. Let's see, there it is,

10:03

Trump at 71. Ron

10:05

de Sanctimonius at 10%. Ron's

10:09

foreign trip was a total bomb. They

10:11

didn't even know what he was

10:13

doing there. What are you doing here, Ron? Why are

10:15

you here? It was a mess.

10:17

Thank you. So he gets his name wrong.

10:20

He calls him Sanctimonius. He calls him... I

10:22

mean, all the normal Trump stuff. They're not

10:24

even particularly funny. They're not even super sharp.

10:27

But his response to

10:29

the name calling... OK, here's

10:31

your multiple choice. Does he, A,

10:33

stand up and go, at least I'm

10:35

not an election denier, a racist, a man

10:37

who's been accused of sexual assault and found

10:39

liable of it, and is facing

10:41

91 indictments? Or does he, B, go, oh,

10:44

oh, oh, I won't bring my

10:46

personal problems to the campaign. You can

10:48

have me in the shape of Donald

10:50

Trump. He did a fine job in

10:52

those days, but I'm back now. It

10:55

was extraordinary. Wait, that's my multiple choice.

10:57

Oh, I see. Yes, A or B.

10:59

Oh, I think B probably. It is B. So I

11:01

got that right. Excellent. I mean,

11:04

he sort of carried on loving Trump, really.

11:06

But he's also that... I did a column

11:08

for the independent newspaper that came out on

11:10

Saturday, and the column ended with this quote

11:12

that Trump apparently said to one of his

11:14

colleagues after some anonymous Republican congressman

11:17

or senator had decided eventually, late

11:19

in the day, to back him.

11:21

Trump says, they all bend the

11:23

knee eventually. And sure enough, despite

11:27

the abuse, despite the insults,

11:29

despite the ignominy, that

11:31

Trump has heaped upon DeSantis, DeSantis

11:34

has bent the knee, has hoisted

11:36

a white flag, has said, I

11:38

surrender, I back you Donald.

11:40

There just seems to be a whole

11:42

generation of Republican politicians who have been

11:44

born without a backbone. Yeah. Because

11:47

they are... None of them. The jellyfish generation.

11:49

The jellyfish generation who just wobble when they

11:51

see Donald Trump come near them. Yeah. It

11:54

was that wonderful quote. I think it was the late

11:57

Diane Feinstein who said, in the Senate

11:59

once she said... I'm a shiver trying

12:01

to find a spine to crawl up. There

12:06

is something, I mean, when you put Trump in the

12:08

Santa side by side, one is

12:10

the villain, but the

12:12

other is somehow worse for

12:14

being complicit in somebody else's

12:16

bad behavior and not really

12:19

having the depth of character

12:21

to even stand up to it. And

12:23

what we saw, just to get to the point,

12:26

last night at about, I don't know,

12:28

7.30 our time, was

12:31

Ron DeSantis pulling

12:34

out of the race and

12:36

instantly backing Donald Trump.

12:38

It's clear to me that a majority

12:40

of Republican primary voters want to give

12:42

Donald Trump another chance. They watch

12:45

his presidency get stymied by relentless

12:47

resistance, and they see Democrats using

12:49

lawfare this day to attack him.

12:51

While I've had disagreements with Donald Trump,

12:54

such as on the coronavirus pandemic

12:56

and his elevation of Anthony Fauci,

12:58

Trump is superior to the current incumbent

13:00

Joe Biden. That is clear. I

13:03

signed a pledge to support the Republican

13:05

nominee, and I will honor that pledge.

13:08

He has my endorsement because we can't go

13:10

back to the old Republican guard of

13:12

yesteryear, a repackaged form

13:14

of warmed-over corporatism that Nikki

13:16

Haley represents. The days of

13:19

putting Americans last, of cow-towing

13:21

the large corporation, of caving

13:23

to woke ideology are over.

13:26

Now, why is that significant? Because

13:28

he backs Donald Trump just before

13:31

the New Hampshire primary, a

13:33

race which is, I suppose, the

13:36

tightest of these early races.

13:39

Donald Trump and Nikki Haley started off

13:42

sort of 10 days ago, pretty much

13:44

neck and neck, right? Very single-digit polls

13:46

between them. It's the place

13:48

that Nikki Haley believed she could

13:51

win to stay in the race.

13:53

And the reason for that is that New

13:55

Hampshire has a lot of, what they call

13:57

the Volvo and Patagonia crowd, a lot of

13:59

independence. A lot of

14:01

quite wealthy, college-educated voices who

14:04

don't really instinctively like Donald

14:06

Trump. At least there's a

14:08

lot of independents who don't fit

14:10

in with the Republican Party or the

14:12

Democrats who might come, if you like,

14:14

to the rescue of Nikki Haley tomorrow

14:16

night, rather in a sort of two

14:18

fingers up way to say, we do things differently to

14:20

Iowa, we'll do what we want here. So

14:23

Nikki Haley thought she was in a chance with New Hampshire.

14:26

Ron DeSantis exits the race, says

14:28

he's backing Donald Trump, takes,

14:31

you would think then, his supporters with

14:33

him to Trump. And the

14:35

presumption at this point is that

14:37

that gap will now open quite

14:39

considerably. So it's absolutely clear to

14:42

me two things about the DeSantis

14:44

decision and the timing of

14:46

the DeSantis decision. One

14:49

is the longer it went on and

14:51

the longer the race went on, the

14:53

more money Trump has to spend and

14:55

the more annoyed Trump becomes with Ron

14:57

DeSantis. So if Ron DeSantis wants a

14:59

good job in a new Trump administration,

15:01

better to get out sooner rather than later

15:04

and ingratiate yourself with Donald Trump,

15:07

which he has done. The second thing is exactly

15:09

what you talk about. This was

15:11

timed to cause maximum damage

15:14

to Nikki Haley. And

15:16

you can't exaggerate the

15:18

antipathy that there is

15:20

between Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley,

15:22

because Nikki Haley has swum in

15:24

a very different lane. Nikki Haley

15:27

represents to Ron DeSantis establishment

15:29

old school Republican politics. Now Nikki

15:31

Haley would say, I'm nothing like

15:33

that, but that is how Ron

15:35

DeSantis sees her and he loads

15:37

her. And he will, even though

15:39

Donald Trump has been his tormentor

15:41

absolutely throughout, he would much rather

15:43

help Donald Trump than he would

15:46

Haley. And that is the other

15:48

reason why this decision was brought

15:50

forward to such an extent that, you know,

15:52

people were caught by surprise. I mean, his

15:54

campaign team was still planning the party that

15:56

they were going to have in New Hampshire

15:59

that night to... mark the event. They've

16:01

booked a room, they've hired the drinks, they've

16:03

got the caterers in, 20 minutes later Rhonda

16:05

Sandys comes out and says, oh well no, I'm out of the race.

16:08

Since he mentioned the campaign team, I think

16:10

we have to mention what they were doing 24 hours

16:13

ahead of that because Scott

16:15

Wagner, who is the sort

16:18

of head of DeSantis's

16:20

super PAC, the sort of fundraising

16:22

arm for the money raising, was

16:24

found to have been immersing himself

16:26

on company time in the headquarters

16:29

of the DeSantis campaign office with

16:31

a 3,000 piece jigsaw. There is an actual

16:34

picture if

16:37

you want to have a look at it

16:39

of Scott Wagner doing a puzzle at the

16:41

Never Back Down headquarters in Iowa. What's the

16:43

campaign's name again? Never back down.

16:45

Oh, have you got a bit of sky? This

16:48

one's a tricky one. I think if you

16:50

wanted to sum up in a visual

16:53

why the DeSantis campaign was

16:56

not ever going to get off the

16:58

ground in Iowa, it was because even

17:00

those, the Never Back Down,

17:02

those at the height of the campaign

17:04

team were trying to amuse

17:06

themselves doing jigsaw puzzles while Rome burned.

17:09

But let's just go back to Nikki Haley, shall we,

17:12

because she gave an

17:14

interview to CNN shortly after

17:16

DeSantis News and two things came out

17:18

of that. He hadn't called

17:20

her ahead of time. She had no inkling,

17:23

no idea this was coming. And

17:25

she was asked if she would support

17:27

Trump for the Republican nominee if

17:29

she loses. Look, I have said, I

17:31

think that Ron ran a good race. I know it's

17:34

personal to get into a race. It's personal to get

17:36

out of a race. He's been a good governor and

17:38

he added a lot to the campaign and we wish

17:40

him well. A lot of times you've

17:42

run in primary races before. When

17:44

somebody drops out, there tends

17:46

to be a breath taken and some

17:49

nicer words are said. That is not the

17:51

case right now with Ron DeSantis. Is

17:54

that surprising to you? Is it disappointing to

17:56

you? And did he call you or at

17:58

least at all? uh...

18:00

informed you before he was dropping out no

18:02

he didn't call or inform me and look

18:05

this is what the fellas do the differences

18:07

i don't take politics personally i never have

18:09

and i think that's the problem with where

18:11

we are now is you now have people

18:14

who want to decide who's a good republican

18:16

who's a bad republican who's a good person

18:18

who's a bad person that's why our country

18:20

is so divided i don't judge people i

18:23

focus on policy that's gonna make america stronger i

18:25

don't think politics personally i'm not thin skin like

18:27

donald trump i think that people don't want that

18:30

they want a leader who's going to bring out

18:32

the best in people and get our country

18:34

going forward ron

18:36

desantis is uh... saying that he is

18:38

taking by his pledge which is why

18:40

and he believe that donald trump will

18:42

be the nominee uh... you made a

18:44

pledge a long time ago

18:47

before the republican national committee

18:49

debate even started to support the

18:51

nominee do you still feel that

18:53

way are you still going to do support i mean

18:55

it's you and donald trump so if it's not you

18:57

i know you hope it will be in your working

19:00

so that it is but if it's not if it's

19:02

donald trump will you support him as a nominee still

19:04

it's going to be me and i know you want

19:06

to talk about it like it still hands seventy percent

19:08

of americans don't want to get out by the rematch

19:10

but even look at that fifty

19:13

six thousand people voted

19:15

in iowa less than two

19:17

percent voted in one day

19:21

we're not going to let that decide what

19:23

happens in the country we've got new hampshire

19:25

we've got south carolina we've got super tuesday

19:27

we're going to keep on going and we're

19:29

gonna fight and we're going to win and

19:31

used to people underestimating me it's always fun

19:34

but there were fourteen people in the three and

19:36

now they're two i'm gonna finish

19:38

this so joe biden and donald trump are

19:40

not an issue at all that we actually

19:42

put them in the past and we go

19:44

forward because our country deserves it and americans

19:46

want their time obviously

19:50

any nominee any candidate wants to be seen to

19:52

be staying in the race otherwise you know it's

19:54

game over they have to give the money back

19:56

when we talk for example about suspend the

19:58

campaign it's a very term which

20:00

they use to sort of avoid having to

20:02

pay back their donors and their sponsors but

20:05

if you hear about a campaign being suspended

20:07

it doesn't mean he's coming back it means

20:09

that's over. Nikki Haley

20:11

now carries on her

20:13

shoulders the worries of

20:15

a huge swathe of the

20:17

world now who doesn't want

20:19

Donald Trump to have the

20:21

path open to the presidency and

20:23

so the question is how long she

20:26

can continue to stay in the race

20:29

if she doesn't win New Hampshire or even if

20:31

she does win New Hampshire on Tuesday

20:33

because you can only stay in a

20:35

race if you have the backing you

20:38

can only stay in the race if you have

20:40

the finances to keep going and

20:42

the question is will those who are backing her now think

20:44

why are we wasting our money?

20:47

Are they going to throw everything at her

20:49

or are they going to quietly sort of

20:51

pull away? I mean look I always find

20:53

it a fascinating subject the psychology of people

20:55

who back politicians to the tune of tens

20:57

of millions of dollars now obviously you've

20:59

got to be pretty seriously rich to do that in the

21:01

first place but why do you do it

21:03

I mean what do you think you're going to get in

21:05

return for it but I do think

21:07

that Nikki Haley will have no problem with money

21:10

I think that there are so

21:12

many people who've got so much of it

21:14

who want to stop Trump that money

21:16

won't be the problem but if you

21:18

have got zero political momentum and

21:21

you are just going down in

21:23

flames with each successive state you

21:25

fight in if she doesn't come

21:27

either extremely close to Trump in

21:29

New Hampshire or she beats

21:32

Trump in New Hampshire it's hard to see

21:34

how this goes on to South Carolina maybe

21:36

in a quixotic sense she will want to

21:38

fight in her own state for one last

21:41

hurrah to go down with dignity to not

21:43

surrender too early I don't think money will

21:45

be the problem I just think it will

21:47

kind of run out of steam and look

21:49

for lawn and idiotic that the campaign go

21:51

on Any longer for her. So

21:53

what kind of numbers are we looking at now

21:56

I Think it's good to give you a ballpark

21:58

because as I say in Iowa. Where

22:00

she was thirty two points

22:02

behind the front runner trump.

22:04

So know where really? She

22:06

came Third, She came even

22:09

lower than Rhonda Centers in

22:11

New Hampshire. She was

22:13

at one point within so single

22:15

digits of Trump. that lead has

22:17

massively open nothing to Twenty Point

22:19

Lead. Now she probably has to

22:21

secure. And going to say. Forty

22:24

percent. right? Thirty eight To

22:26

Forty percent. Of the republican independent

22:28

votes. To put herself into

22:30

a place where she still. Taken

22:32

seriously. if she wins New Hampshire it doesn't

22:35

change the race the good but it definitely

22:37

gives have a men's him for the next

22:39

one because there's no way she's gonna win

22:41

New Hampshire Them pull out. If

22:43

she comes I would say. Lower.

22:47

Than thirty points, it becomes very hard

22:49

to see what she's doing It for

22:51

your rights. You know she goes off

22:53

to South Carolina, but South Carolina was

22:55

a month away. So what is she

22:57

doing in not months? Kind of on

22:59

her own now because there's no other

23:01

candidate that she's trying to beat. And

23:03

Donald Trump as we've said before on

23:05

this post is already kind of. Tone

23:08

of fight the general next and he's taking

23:10

his arguments to Joe Biden already. So what

23:12

does she do without month except for try

23:14

and raise money except for trying to g

23:17

up her and states one other factor which

23:19

I think we should just touch son was.

23:22

That. Earlier in the weekend just

23:24

before on, dissenters pulled out

23:26

another Canada Tim Scott has

23:28

had been a a Republican

23:30

nominee is wealth gave his

23:32

blessing to Donald Trump. Why

23:34

is that significant? Because it

23:36

was Nikki Haley that first

23:38

promoted Tim Scott from the

23:40

South Carolina Congress to the

23:42

Senate, The Senate and. So if

23:45

he didn't oh so allegiance in his

23:47

own state, the what makes you think

23:49

the people of South Carolina. are

23:51

going to put haley above trump when it

23:53

comes to that sounds was a thing to

23:55

note about tim scott is black is that

23:58

is donald trump doesn't go for a woman

24:00

Yeah on the ticket and I think that

24:02

is highly likely that he will because he

24:04

has a huge problem with women voters and

24:06

that The numbers were really poor for him

24:08

in 2020 Then I

24:10

would put some money on Tim Scott being he's

24:12

the only man that I think it would be

24:14

in contention For the VP pick

24:16

but look so on last week's episode. I think I

24:19

said something along the lines of well I think you

24:21

Emily said that he's got a 99% chance of being

24:25

The nominee and that no one is going to beat

24:27

Trump and I said actually you know what? I think

24:29

it's 95% I'm Reluctantly

24:33

going to have to move towards you to

24:35

me come on. I'm just I'm not

24:37

admitting you're right I'm definitely not admitting you're right

24:39

I wouldn't dream of admitting you're right but things have

24:41

changed but things have changed when the evidence changes

24:43

you have to change with Them so I'd say

24:45

97 to 98 percent I

24:48

think that Nikki Haley has such a

24:50

narrow and such a steep climb It

24:53

is very hard to see it, but

24:55

there is still a lot of

24:57

highly motivated Old-school

24:59

Republicans with very deep pockets

25:01

who want anyone but Trump

25:03

to be fighting the 2024

25:07

presidential election and to give Rhonda

25:09

Santa's a tiny a weenie

25:11

bit of credit when he

25:14

started His campaign

25:16

launch. I guess he thought that

25:18

there was a chance that Trump could be brought

25:20

down By his

25:22

court cases and that Rhonda

25:24

Santis would slip into the guy who sort

25:26

of was the body double Acted and talked

25:29

and sounded like Trump, but wasn't actually a

25:31

felon right wasn't a defendant in court Now

25:34

since then we understand how much Trump

25:37

has used these court cases to fundraise

25:39

to publicity drive to Basically get ahead

25:41

of the news cycles in many cases

25:44

to get give himself more air time

25:46

and so that doesn't work But I

25:49

think we will start to go into particularly

25:51

in March The actual

25:53

testimonies The actual witness days in

25:55

court with some of the really big

25:58

cases. I'm thinking of the January. The

26:00

case. Now there is a chance that

26:02

Nikki Haley. Kind. Of feels that there

26:04

was. There. Was a responsibility on her

26:06

to stay in the race. In. Kc.

26:09

Physically. Tunnels actually become

26:11

the Kansas right? Yeah says

26:13

to Donald Trump. There is

26:15

a mixed blessing in the

26:18

whole primary process being rocked

26:20

up Now. Rather, Than

26:22

in July, when is the Republican convention

26:24

would normally mark the moment that the

26:26

Presidential campaign sauce? The mixed blessing is

26:29

that the attention is not going to

26:31

be on the races in North Carolina

26:33

and Super Tuesday and evolved or and

26:36

here and there and everywhere is just

26:38

gonna be about his legal woes and

26:40

how he continues to turn that if

26:42

Americans are tuning in. And there's a

26:45

whole interesting issue about the fact that

26:47

Americans are tuning into with the numbers

26:49

of people watching the primaries, watching the

26:52

Iowa caucuses is way way down. On

26:54

a few years ago, the Tv networks

26:56

that got the huge bump from Trump

26:58

in twenty sixteen or not going to

27:01

get it is time Now because people

27:03

are tuned out of American politics so

27:05

the attention will be on Trump and

27:07

the court cases and presumably even the

27:10

most slavishly loyal Trump stations will have

27:12

to get some attention to the evidence

27:14

that is being presented in the courts.

27:17

So yes, Nikki Haley has got vested

27:19

interest in playing his lungs because if.

27:21

For any reason from does fooled by

27:23

the wayside since he could that be

27:25

the person who will have some delicate

27:28

vote on who could keep to be

27:30

the person who will take it over.

27:32

But I think the inner city from

27:34

having the field to himself means that

27:36

there's a lot of attention on Donald

27:38

Trump and his problems, not just Donald

27:41

Trump's fighting off the scientists or whoever

27:43

happens to be. Yeah, the flipside of

27:45

us is that Donald Trump thinks that

27:47

by wrap things up the nomination early

27:49

it becomes much harder. To. The

27:51

courts to act against him with is

27:54

one thing is we're going to exit

27:56

the rule of law on this Canada

27:58

in this long race. Another is.

28:01

If. It actually becomes a nominee. And

28:04

he actually tries to make this into

28:06

or. Politicization. You

28:08

know, with said it before, this

28:10

is a witch hunt. Then he

28:12

manages to basically weaponize the fact

28:14

that he is. To. All intents

28:16

and purposes, the nominates on the courts is

28:18

still trying to bring him down and I

28:21

think that place to his students. Will.

28:23

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28:28

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28:36

Needless to say trump

28:38

land thrilled that distances

28:40

is out and suddenly.

28:43

The. Insult top the spigot has

28:45

been turned off or guy

28:47

his and will I be

28:49

using the name's Ron to

28:51

sanctimonious. I said that name

28:53

is officially retired. Before

28:59

we begin as like to

29:01

take time to to graduate

29:03

Rhonda senses and. Of

29:06

course. Really

29:09

terrific. First who has gotten a know

29:11

his wife Casey for having run a

29:13

great campaign for president. He said he

29:15

ran us a really good campaign. I

29:17

was as you it's not easy Space

29:19

Agency's doing this stuff right is not

29:21

easy. But as you know he left

29:24

the campaign trail today at three pm

29:26

and in so doing he was very

29:28

gracious as he endorsed me so I.

29:33

Say Trump Congratulating Run The Sun's

29:35

is primarily I think I'm pulling

29:37

out of the race. And

29:39

it is just a reminder that when

29:42

he says. It's not easy to

29:44

run. this. Trump is running as

29:46

the incumbent. He's the guy. He

29:48

not only run in twenty sixteen

29:50

but also in Twenty twenty that

29:52

has already been President. It is

29:55

a very very different thing for

29:57

him. To go into his campaign

29:59

said. The Road. He knows the

30:01

timing, he knows expenditure he notes,

30:03

seems he knows what he's gonna

30:05

get right and wrong. and he's

30:07

basically waved off Rhonda Census as

30:09

a bit of a joke answer

30:11

themselves to be. Oddly. Gracious

30:14

and say oh no I disagreed Some

30:16

sleep thousand Donald Trump congratulating road The

30:18

scientists that was build something that says

30:21

he himself yes the in their sixties

30:23

that no idea how tough it is

30:25

to run a campaign. you read a

30:28

great campaign run practice nothing like a

30:30

shell as me. But if you compare

30:32

this, I'm what he said after the

30:34

Iowa Caucus. What? We'll a hearing

30:36

from Donald Trump and I'm sure it won't

30:38

last. Is this. Some.

30:41

Free ability. Not

30:43

to stick the nice and right you've

30:45

gone. well done Europe my way. Well

30:48

done. Nikki Haley you did a

30:50

great campaign. Iowa well done. He lost.

30:52

well done I'm I think he is

30:54

trying for the graciousness that so evade

30:56

is him in the first. Four years

30:59

of his government and a be and

31:01

see if it sticks. Yes, But if

31:03

you look of what is happening, there

31:05

was a very minor. House

31:07

Of. Representatives. Congressman. Code.

31:09

I think both good. Who's in

31:11

Virginia a nobody? He was the

31:14

Chairman of the Freedom Caucus in

31:16

the house so title mega line

31:18

by line. perfect in terms of

31:20

com policy but he backs dissenters

31:22

and tired or bucking to scientists

31:24

on the Trump campaign have already

31:26

going off the him. the chairman

31:28

of the campaign has given an

31:30

interview to of local newspapers in

31:32

South Virginia and said. Within.

31:35

The Destroy. Him the. Site of an

31:37

Enemy's that Donald Trump might to the

31:39

language of unity and coming together and

31:41

we scott talked about that the last

31:43

episode of and Usages Usa. The reality

31:45

is that is to step. Five.

31:48

Degrees out of line behind Donald Trump.

31:50

The campaign is going to come off

31:52

to use a yeah, it's fine Now

31:54

for Rhonda Scientists and Donald Trump saying

31:56

nice things and if Nikki Haley pulled

31:58

out the race, I'm short on. Trump

32:00

was a nice things about her but if

32:02

you are in any way. He

32:04

the way. He's. Coming to get

32:06

us and the other thing I mean

32:09

people are asking me on twitter yesterday

32:11

is it likely that from the census

32:13

could be his running mate is the

32:15

p I would say that was and

32:17

ninety nine percent certainty that you won't

32:20

be yard. I just think there is

32:22

no way that trump once anyone. In

32:25

his shadow. Who looks or tries

32:27

to books like his shadow around

32:29

him? His to bump sissies to sort

32:32

of big rarely to be part of the

32:34

Trump team. Yeah, maybe he'll get a job.

32:36

I mean to sound this has to hilariously

32:38

go back to been Governor of Florida now,

32:40

a job that he has completely forgotten about

32:42

over the course of the last nine months

32:44

or so, and his cousin as time. Goes

32:46

on sale. Twenty Twenty six.

32:48

I do think it's tarnished him this whole

32:50

campaign. I don't think he'll go back into

32:53

the. Twenty twenty six if he

32:55

wants to. Rifai. That see, I don't

32:57

think he'll go. And as the golden boy

32:59

anymore I think it's actually been bypassed

33:01

the him his been disastrous campaign and

33:03

he's come across as unlikable stis. Awkward.

33:08

Very on user friendly so

33:10

politicians. But. You know

33:12

what? these politicians they kind of combat

33:14

up. They bounce back and auditing more

33:16

dissenters thinks this is over or the

33:18

run. The scientists is already thinking right?

33:20

Well Donald Trump wins in twenty four.

33:22

I would twenty eight and he's looking

33:24

again and you'll be lucky in self

33:26

in the mirror and still be saying

33:28

backed himself. I could be President. The

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33:41

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33:43

will be back as soon as we

33:45

have. The results of the New

33:48

Hampshire Primary. In On a When

33:50

Citizens. Of the News Agency Usa. This

33:53

will be the moment where we

33:55

know. Whether. Nikki Haley

33:57

has given. up all

33:59

semblance of chance at

34:01

the nomination, or whether

34:04

there is still the chance of

34:06

a two-person race. We'll see you

34:09

then. Bye-bye.