0:02

This is a global player.

0:04

Original podcast are I carry

0:06

Other than how Ms. Daniels.

0:09

Com port it herself during this

0:11

testimony. What? Else about her

0:14

appearance. Stood out to you and

0:16

how that might impact the jury. Was

0:19

a bit odd because you know this

0:21

is a criminal trial involving the former

0:23

President of the United States. So each

0:25

witness has dressed in, presented themselves in

0:27

a somewhat formal matter where a put

0:29

together way and I just ah, ugly

0:31

story. Daniels came in with her hair

0:33

kind of pulled back in the clip

0:35

with all kinds of hair coming out

0:37

as if she hadn't brushed it quite

0:39

frankly and had what looked almost like

0:41

a hoodie, but it was a coach

0:43

who was dress very casually and I

0:45

started thinking is this an intentional you

0:47

know part if your. Folks new show.

0:49

There is nothing more egregious than

0:51

a woman with her hair sticking

0:54

out who does not look formerly

0:56

enough dressed for court. That's the

0:58

Laura Ingraham show and she's talking

1:01

to the league alleged to their

1:03

about Stormy Daniels no less, who

1:06

surprised pretty much all of us

1:08

by suddenly appearing in court yesterday

1:10

to testify against. Her. Once

1:12

lover. Donald. Trump

1:15

allegedly under oath.

1:18

She told us about Donald

1:20

Trump's black silk pajamas under

1:22

oath, She told us about

1:24

how she. Was. In the

1:26

missionary position, she told us about

1:29

the toiletries he had. She told

1:31

us about the little rolled up

1:33

magazine with which she slapped his

1:36

bottom. It's extraordinary to think. That.

1:38

This is the form of President

1:40

of the United States who in

1:42

November could be the next President

1:45

of the United States. On all

1:47

this. Playing. Out. In

1:49

a court in downtown.

1:52

Manhattan. We're going to take

1:54

you through every twist and turn of

1:56

the testimony still me Daniels gave. Not

1:59

just the salacious. details about how

2:01

she may have moved the dial

2:03

in this criminal trial. Welcome

2:06

to the News Agents USA. It's

2:08

John. It's Emily. And

2:12

it's also Stormy. I

2:14

mean, there's going to be a lot of Stormy. And

2:19

sadly, because there are no TV cameras, there are

2:21

no mics allowed in the court, we

2:23

can't bring you the audio from the

2:25

trial. But what we will be doing

2:27

is hearing from someone, a correspondent who

2:30

is actually inside the court, they

2:32

have to bring binoculars with them to

2:34

spot every detail so that they miss

2:36

nothing because it's so big, so vast,

2:38

they want to be able to catch

2:41

the expressions on everyone's face as they're

2:43

actually speaking. And you can only

2:45

begin to imagine the expression on Donald Trump's

2:47

face when he heard somewhat

2:49

by surprise that the

2:51

prosecution was calling as its witness

2:53

that day one Stormy Daniels,

2:55

the person with whom he was alleged to

2:58

have had a one night stand and who

3:00

was paid $130,000 just

3:03

before the election to keep her

3:05

quiet so that she wouldn't upset

3:07

Donald Trump's election campaign.

3:09

Yeah. And Stormy Daniels, let's

3:12

face it, has been out there for

3:14

the past few years since it was

3:16

revealed that there had been this gagging order

3:19

and it had been broken and

3:21

she has gone after Donald Trump

3:23

with alacrity. So let us

3:26

set the scene because it was a dark and stormy

3:28

night. No, it wasn't. It was in late Tahoe. You

3:30

couldn't hear that, could you? I could not. 2006

3:32

at a golf tournament

3:35

in Nevada in late Tahoe where

3:37

she was apparently called

3:39

over by one of his staff and

3:41

invited to dinner with Donald

3:43

Trump. He wasn't the president. He hadn't even thought

3:46

about being the president. And

3:48

the staff said, come on, you might as well

3:50

go out to dinner with him. It'll be a

3:52

good story. She then finds out that the dinner

3:54

is actually in his hotel room And

3:57

she describes how he was very interested. They

4:00

dined that he wants to know all about

4:02

the porn industry in which she worked and

4:04

he was no asking questions actually about in

4:06

it as it turns out the sexual the

4:08

missionary position so he was asking would that

4:10

would trade union workers what what the pay

4:12

was like, how they got their ideas about

4:14

the plots for the films and all the

4:16

rest of it She said he was clearly

4:18

quite bright and he asked interesting questions. They

4:20

have dinner she than pops off to the

4:22

bathrooms. Are we launched The she's desert and

4:25

seized isn't when she comes. Back she

4:27

describes his testimony how the President

4:29

is sitting. On. The bed

4:31

waiting for her. and even though she

4:33

is involved in the sex industry and

4:36

she works in porn and she's a

4:38

sex worker she describes a sense of

4:40

feeling slightly traps that there is a

4:43

bodyguard outside the door that see maybe

4:45

was maybe wasn't expecting this to move

4:47

kind of unfold plate so quickly but

4:50

it is consensual and she has sex

4:52

with him and she thinks that's the

4:54

end of the story. She makes a

4:57

point of saying that he wasn't really

4:59

trying to keep it private. He

5:01

didn't really mind his new wife baloney

5:03

of finding out about this because he

5:05

described that they had separate. Bedrooms and

5:08

even see. Plus I bet. Yeah and

5:10

let's just be clear about something from

5:12

the get go is nothing here we

5:15

describing is illegal. I mean you could

5:17

say improper in terms of his relationship

5:19

with Milan The A Bus. Yeah, this

5:22

is about a court case that is

5:24

to do with Donald Trump paying her

5:26

one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to

5:28

keep still so that she doesn't blow

5:31

them made on this relationship, particularly after

5:33

the Access Hollywood types that com out

5:35

of done some so much damage. Where

5:37

he said you know you can grab a woman

5:40

by the pussy And so I think the Trump

5:42

campaign with desperate to avoid another moments. So fucking

5:44

shit. Where have we got problems that we need

5:46

to shut down? Storm with Daniels is a problem.

5:48

We need Shutdown. Yes, she wasn't paid

5:51

at the time, she wasn't paid.

5:53

After that night, she says that

5:55

she was threatens years later. In.

5:58

A car park in less than. And

6:01

she was told not to talk about the. Encounter and

6:03

she described reaching a deal. presumably.

6:05

She then said, well what he's

6:07

gonna pay me to shut up

6:09

without know, but they weeks is

6:11

ill one hundred and thirty thousand

6:13

pounds not to speak publicly on.

6:15

The reason it was important was

6:17

because this was on the cusp

6:19

of the Twenty sixteen Presidential election.

6:21

In other words, for almost ten

6:23

years, he sudden cared about that

6:25

Encounter, a Tool, didn't really care

6:27

about his wife will family finding

6:29

out, but he did want to

6:31

suss it down. Before he went to

6:33

the American. People and says she's mizzou

6:36

President. So that is why this is

6:38

so relevant to the case that is

6:40

being heard. Because one of the arguments

6:42

that has been put forward by Trump

6:45

surrogates is that the only motivation he

6:47

had for paying off stormy don't Use

6:49

was so that Milan you didn't find

6:51

out that he had an affair with

6:54

Amazon is my family values mass. It

6:56

will be very bad for their marriage

6:58

and Donald Trump was just trying to

7:00

cover this up in the choir this

7:03

way Possible Toys Lawyer. To give us

7:05

some money just to make ago.

7:07

And yes, But as Everly says,

7:09

this hasn't been done for years.

7:11

It was the proximity of the

7:13

Presidential election in November, twenty six

7:15

states the had spurred Michael Cohen

7:18

Trump's Mister Fix It lawyer into

7:20

action on that his wife that

7:22

there was a demand that she

7:24

signed this non disclosure agreement about

7:26

what had gone on in that

7:28

relationship. On this money came

7:30

from some pain funds that

7:32

was never disclosed and that is

7:35

in essence while them bragg

7:37

the prosecutor in New York in

7:39

Manhattan has been able to

7:41

bring this case cooled loosely the

7:43

has Money case but it's

7:45

actually about campaign financing On

7:47

what was not declared before

7:49

Donald Trump asked the. American

7:51

people for said soaked so.

7:54

that's the background to this case

7:56

in court what do we know

7:58

we know that done Trump was

8:00

deeply unhappy with her testimony that he

8:02

kept on her rump thing and making

8:05

noises under his breath to the point

8:07

where the judge had to pull his

8:09

necklaces attorney aside and say, please tell

8:11

your client not to make

8:13

those noises. He could be accused of

8:15

intimidating the witness. At times he was

8:17

the one pushing his attorney to stand

8:19

up and say, I object that there

8:21

were no forthcoming objections,

8:23

even in places where story Daniels

8:25

testimony got a bit juicy. Well,

8:28

I mean, there was one point where Donald Trump was

8:30

seen to mouth bullshit over one of the claims that

8:32

Stormy Daniels had made about what had gone on in

8:34

that bedroom. And there was also

8:36

the suggestion that the judge himself, Croix

8:39

Marchand, was surprised that

8:42

the Trump defense team hadn't pushed back more

8:44

and said that this should not be admissible

8:46

into court. Well, let's hear from Susie

8:48

Cairns. She's the US correspondent for The

8:50

Telegraph. She has been in the courthouse.

8:52

Susie, did you have your binoculars with

8:55

you? Certainly. You're no use unless you

8:57

have binoculars in court these days. I

8:59

do have my binoculars with me. Trusty

9:01

pair ordered off Amazon for twenty one

9:03

dollars. Yes, you have

9:05

to. It sometimes it feels like there's too

9:08

much to watch at one time.

9:10

You're trying to watch. You know, yesterday we

9:12

had Stormy Daniels trying to keep an eye

9:14

on her. And then also you're trying to

9:17

dart your eyes across the room to see

9:19

Donald Trump, you know, huffing and puffing,

9:21

shaking his head, muttering under his

9:23

breath. So yes, there's a lot

9:26

going on at once, to say the least. What

9:28

was Trump's demeanor like yesterday? So

9:31

as I'm sure you've seen, there's been quite a

9:33

few days where we've been guessing whether he's been

9:35

falling asleep. He seemed very

9:37

subdued. That wasn't the case

9:39

yesterday. He was alert. He

9:41

was watching what was going on, shaking his

9:43

head, prodding his lawyers, speaking to his

9:45

lawyers, to the extent that the

9:48

judge told Mr. Trump's lawyer,

9:50

Todd Blanche, to, you

9:52

know, he was audibly saying things,

9:54

visibly shaking his head. He

9:56

didn't want to say anything out loud because it would be embarrassing

9:58

for him, but it could be intimidating. dating for

10:00

the witness and the jury can

10:02

see everything he's doing. So you

10:05

know he was by no means

10:07

a wallflower yesterday. And were you

10:09

watching the jury watching Stormy Daniels

10:11

because I've sort of heard differing

10:13

reports Susie that at some

10:16

point it was almost like she sort of went

10:18

a bit too far it was a bit too

10:20

graphic and there was a question of whether she

10:22

was actually losing the jury at those moments rather

10:24

than sort of pulling them in. Yes

10:27

definitely there were moments I mean at

10:29

first she appeared quite nervous on

10:31

the stand but it didn't take her long to

10:34

soften and she was talking to the jury looking

10:36

directly at them as if she was talking

10:38

to a group of old school friends. But

10:40

you know the jury looks engaged the entire time

10:42

taking notes but you know it was it was

10:45

a lot to be hearing in

10:47

a courtroom with a former and potentially

10:49

future US president. Yeah

10:52

I mean the extraordinary nature of it can't

10:54

be exaggerated can it that you've got the

10:57

former president possibly the next president and

10:59

you've got a woman in court testifying

11:01

about you know how she was in

11:03

the missionary position with him. Did you

11:05

feel that Stormy Daniels kind of ever

11:08

lost it was going beyond what

11:10

she wanted to say or was

11:13

she pretty studied in terms of I

11:15

know how far I can go I know what I want

11:17

to say I know what I don't want to say. I

11:20

think she did go a bit

11:22

further than perhaps she was planning

11:24

to at times I didn't feel

11:26

studied as you say it

11:29

felt like someone maybe oversharing slightly you

11:31

know after a drink or something in

11:33

the pub not saying that he was

11:35

drinking but it was sort of like

11:37

describing someone who's disassociated in the way

11:40

that she was recounting that sexual act.

11:42

There was one specific moment which seemed

11:44

to sort of shift the dial a

11:46

bit on the actual legal

11:48

issue at the heart of this and

11:51

that was when Stormy Daniels was asked

11:53

whether Trump had told her to keep

11:55

it confidential and she said

11:57

absolutely not and just to The

12:00

Plane That meaning that it wasn't that

12:02

he was worried about Maloney of finding

12:04

out it was only years later when

12:06

he decided to send for the President's

12:08

into and sixteen that it became a

12:10

saying. does that sort of effect this

12:13

whole put trail that Trump's lawyers scientists

12:15

put across which is he was a

12:17

family man and you know it's embarrassing

12:19

he want to keep his his wife

12:21

on side. I mean was thus a

12:23

moment in court yesterday? yes definitely and

12:25

another pointless when as he said that

12:27

they spoke about La Nia as he.

12:30

Said he does. she's very beautiful and he said

12:32

l don't worry about that, the don't even sleep

12:34

in the same Said he that to be hearing

12:36

that with the twenty seven year old eat just

12:38

met a snare Pretty golf tournament. And

12:40

yes that is the the heart

12:42

of one of the senses arguments

12:44

that as he say that he's

12:47

trying to protect his family and

12:49

anything that can go against that

12:51

is very key obviously and then

12:53

he clearly wasn't concerned even then

12:55

about his by finding out said

12:57

to say that suddenly years later

12:59

he became paranoid about this to

13:02

stare yes it helped prosecution's case.

13:04

Suzuka City. Thank you thank you

13:06

very much indeed. Thank you. So

13:08

I think there are a couple

13:11

of really interesting moments in that

13:13

testimony and one came near the

13:15

end were. Arguably.

13:18

The defense coordinates saw me

13:20

daniels by asking very directly.

13:23

Is. She hates his. Donald Trump. And.

13:25

She said. Yes and then they

13:27

pushed her. Do you want him to go

13:30

to prison and she says I want him

13:32

to be held accountable d Want him to

13:34

go to prison? Is he's found guilty? Yes.

13:36

Now. Still, Daniels up put

13:38

was in. Full flow right? She hates

13:41

him. There was no love lost

13:43

between as it's she's already given

13:45

infuses he was saying on the

13:47

chat says the Jimmy Kimmel show

13:49

the like that such as describing

13:51

his Boston Must from st Penis

13:53

and all the rest of us

13:56

with of these mushrooms are it's

13:58

mushrooms and was most represents. The

14:00

commander in chief of the United States

14:03

military. Can

14:06

you hold it up so it's coming at me at the correct

14:08

angle? Yes. There

14:11

is no reason for Stormy Daniel to

14:13

stand there and say things that could

14:15

be demonstrably proved otherwise. And

14:17

yet, by getting her

14:19

to admit that she hates him, the

14:22

defence now may find a way of saying

14:24

to the jury, you see, you're not

14:26

going to listen to this woman. She's clearly... She's got a...

14:29

She's got a... She's got a... She hates him. Yeah.

14:31

And I think that that is obviously the

14:33

risk that the prosecution took in putting her

14:35

on the stand. Because, you know, it was

14:37

going to be rough and it got rough.

14:40

And the defence counsel for Trump went

14:42

after her and wound her up. And

14:45

she kind of did apparently seem to

14:47

get quite animated and vexed by the

14:49

line of questioning. And so,

14:52

you know, remember, the name

14:54

of the game here is not to

14:56

give us entertainment. Yesterday was

14:58

spectacularly entertaining. Today will be

15:00

spectacularly entertaining. The

15:03

name of the game, if you are the

15:05

Trump defence team, is to find one juror

15:08

who will not vote for prosecution. And

15:11

then you've got a hung jury and then

15:13

Donald Trump walks scot-free. Or a judge to

15:15

throw the case out because he thinks that

15:17

the whole thing has gone off track. But

15:20

listen to what Donald Trump was trying to do

15:22

when he came out of court last night. This

15:24

was Tuesday evening. It's not sitting today.

15:27

So this was, if you like, the sort

15:30

of flurry and what he wants to be

15:32

the takeaway from the day of Stormy Daniels

15:34

testimony. And

15:50

I think it's a good idea to

15:52

get to the case, the data for the DA,

15:54

the source of the DA, is a disaster that's

15:56

all so associated with

15:59

it. solver on

16:01

the scene because they're over the balance.

16:03

They've never seen anything quite like it. So

16:06

the whole thing is a disaster. It's all going wrong.

16:08

Never been a trial like it, etc, etc, etc. One

16:12

other person who has given evidence in the trial is someone who

16:15

most certainly does not hate Donald Trump, and

16:17

that is Hope Hicks. She was for

16:19

years the right-hand woman to him,

16:21

almost family in the

16:25

affection in which she was held

16:27

by Donald Trump. And

16:29

I went on a number of trips

16:31

where Hope Hicks was always at the

16:34

president's side immaculately turned out, very, very

16:36

glamorous assistant by Donald Trump.

16:39

She gave evidence, and some of it was

16:41

very supportive of Donald Trump, that he

16:43

could multitask, he could delegate, he could do

16:45

all sorts of things. But there was one bit that was damning, where

16:48

she did say that Donald Trump

16:50

was really worried that this would come

16:52

out before the election about the payment

16:55

to Stormy Daniels, and that he was

16:57

concerned that it shouldn't emerge. You could

16:59

not imagine two more different witnesses in

17:02

court. I mean, Stormy Daniels spoke very fast

17:04

at the beginning, as you've heard, was quite

17:06

nervous, but then sort of visibly, to all

17:08

accounts, relaxed and started quite enjoying, you know,

17:10

a bit of the performance. Hope Hicks essentially

17:13

broke down in tears. She

17:16

did not want to be there. She did not want to

17:18

be testifying against her old boss. She

17:21

still clearly has a lot of affection for him. She

17:23

was sort of straining round in

17:25

the courtroom from what we've learned

17:27

to sort of catch his face,

17:29

waiting almost for his approval. And

17:32

I think felt caught

17:34

between having to do her duty under oath

17:37

and dumping him in it when she didn't

17:39

really want to. I mean, she made it

17:41

absolutely clear in court that she had been subpoenaed,

17:43

and therefore had no option but to appear

17:45

in court, and that it was not her

17:48

choice to be there. So Hope Hicks we've heard from. Stormy Daniels, we will

17:50

hear some

17:53

more from. Of course, the other person we're

17:55

really waiting to see on the stand Is

17:57

Michael Cohen, because that too is. Going

18:00

to be fireworks. But.

18:02

Don't think this is the only

18:04

legal issue in town. It's not.

18:07

Trump is facing multiple indictments for

18:09

multiple criminal offenses and he had

18:11

some good news yesterday from Florida

18:13

where the judge who is overseeing

18:16

the case into him scoring away

18:18

all those classified documents of Marlowe

18:20

ago I said, i mean, definitely

18:22

postponing this case because of the

18:25

complexities baths kind of official secrets

18:27

act in all the rest of.

18:29

Your ailing turned the judge. She basically

18:31

made his day by saying this is

18:33

not one of those Charles is have

18:35

to worry about now. All Trump has

18:37

been trying to do is get them

18:39

pushed so far back that they end

18:42

up being sent off to the election.

18:44

He doesn't really care about that to

18:46

sing some. Point where if dealing with whatever

18:48

comes once, he's sort of won. The election

18:50

again and said that has gone the

18:52

other legal. Issue that's been falling trump

18:55

around is the question of his gag order.

18:57

In other words, when he speaks out about

18:59

a witness or about a judge or of

19:01

us happiness and. The in the does his

19:04

family's a he's not allowed to do that

19:06

and he can say sir thousand dollar fines

19:08

and the judge has less to sort of

19:10

damoclean soared highly of him that if he

19:12

carries on breaking the gag order it could

19:14

result in prisons. Yesterday last night he poses.

19:16

Of isn't true say and then quickly deleted it.

19:19

But we also got says the with

19:21

from trump that may be. Prison.

19:24

Suit prison little tiny we need Prison

19:26

sentence was something that he sort of

19:28

fell he ought to embrace with is

19:30

after all he does think he's Nelson

19:32

Mandela. Was.

19:53

Young because Donald Trump, as we know

19:55

is all about self sacrifice and that's

19:57

always been the whole lot of his

19:59

presence. C is Ralph to office the

20:01

way he's conducted his life as I

20:04

think there was irony. Meant. To

20:06

be sad because every the idea of

20:08

the don't trump is willing. To. Go

20:10

to jail I think he says or and

20:12

not so sure the if he ended up

20:14

in Rikers he'd be ever so thrilled about

20:16

that. I. Guess it depends as the lights.

20:18

Twenty minute. Wit rounds if you know

20:21

I've been to jail or was

20:23

he entered yeah not so he

20:25

was still month or know exactly.

20:27

know exactly so and is quite

20:29

interesting listening to the circus. The

20:31

friends, the family of Donald Trump

20:33

arguing that what Donald Trump is

20:36

about and remember juddering Six As

20:38

I say, this is all about

20:40

upholding the Constitution of the United

20:42

States of America. This is his

20:44

daughter in law, Laura Trump. I

20:46

think that anyone who looked sit

20:48

there and can sleep at night

20:51

knowing this is happening in America

20:53

better get Syria. Donald Trump has

20:55

said this is much bigger than

20:57

him. This is about signing up

20:59

for the United States Constitution he

21:01

has set is not me then

21:03

who if not now then when

21:05

if he does not stand up

21:07

for the rights of of hit

21:09

himself as an American citizen science

21:11

then we're all done so lower.

21:14

Trump. Saw. That still doing

21:16

the rounds. For Trump answer counting

21:18

the message. Very few members of

21:20

his family actually with him in. The

21:22

Courtroom I think Eric, Laura's husband,

21:25

Trump's second. Son was with him on

21:27

a couple of days last week, But

21:29

essentially you keep getting the sense of

21:31

quite an isolated. say go in the

21:33

courtroom is not. Surrounded by as in

21:36

in sans as any members of

21:38

the family as alien supporters. And

21:40

remember zillion. Supporters.

21:43

Are. The lifeblood of Donald Trump. That's.

21:46

what keeps him going he wants

21:48

the plugin to the adoration the

21:50

is so conspicuously absent in downtown

21:52

manhattan on the fifteenth floor that

21:54

courthouse but he has been up

21:56

more law go on he's been

21:58

casting and i over people

22:01

who could be his vice presidential

22:03

pick. More on that in a moment. The

22:05

News Agents USA with Emily Maitlis

22:08

and John Sople. The

22:12

News Agents USA. Still

22:17

think that you are in line to be Trump's vice

22:19

president? No, it's up to Donald Trump. He's the

22:21

only person who will decide this. He's the only person

22:23

who will decide. And I spoke, yes, I do speak

22:26

to him. May I ask what he said to you about being vice president?

22:28

No, I never tell anybody my personal conversations

22:30

with Donald Trump. Did the dog story come up in your

22:32

conversations with Trump? I talk to President Trump all the time.

22:35

About the dog? About a lot of things. And

22:37

right now, I tell you what, he is being persecuted

22:39

in a political hunt, witch hunt, in this

22:41

court case. So I'm proud of him

22:43

about how tough he is and how well he is

22:46

doing. Did you bring up the dog with Trump? Yes, enough,

22:48

Stuart. Did you bring up the dog with Trump? This interview

22:50

is ridiculous what you are doing right now. So

22:52

you need to stop. It is. That

22:54

was Christie Noem, America's answer to Cruella

22:57

Deville. If you listen last week, you

22:59

will remember that we told you about

23:01

her in her own book telling

23:04

us the story of how she shot her

23:06

14 month old puppy. Because

23:09

it was annoying. Yes, and it wasn't doing what she thought

23:11

it ought to be doing. So took it

23:13

to a gravel pit, boom, bye-bye

23:15

puppy. That hasn't gone down ever so well.

23:17

Funny that, isn't it? Weird

23:20

that you think that in a nation

23:23

of animal lovers, that wouldn't be acceptable. But

23:26

Christie Noem, who is the governor

23:28

of South Dakota, and potentially a

23:31

vice presidential pick, as we could

23:33

hear there from that interview, getting

23:35

increasingly annoyed with a Fox interviewer

23:38

about being asked about poor old

23:40

cricket, the dead dog. And

23:42

whether Donald Trump had been offended enough

23:45

by the story or savvy enough to

23:47

think, I'm not sure I want her

23:49

at my size. Can you imagine the posters? Exactly.

23:52

But Christie Noem, I mean this book

23:54

that she has produced, Is

23:56

an absolute corker because one she

23:58

thought... It'll be fine

24:01

to tell the story of killing

24:03

the puppy hasn't gone terribly well

24:05

said. It also includes in the

24:07

book a meeting she had with

24:09

Kim Jong Un, which ah, Never

24:12

took place on she's trying to cover

24:14

that up to buy to say I

24:16

don't want to talk about probably gonna

24:18

be so far as.com of a bothered

24:20

about leaders practice. You never met Kim

24:22

Jong. Oh. Yes and if you they to

24:24

pick one name to try and gone of

24:27

the admiration of Donald Trump let out of

24:29

the blue he'd probably say who Kim's alone.

24:31

Will. As hear it. I guess you said

24:33

you met Kim Jong own did you

24:35

meet him? And then the the

24:37

Dmz and then the North Korea and people.

24:39

I don't talk about my conversations with world

24:42

leaders and sell or when I have looked

24:44

at the book and I saw that excerpts.

24:46

I decided to make that change to the

24:48

content of the book and that's and done.

24:50

To: you didn't have a conversation with Kim when you

24:52

were the didn't. I don't have conversations about

24:54

my conversations with world leaders. I've been working

24:56

on policy for a thirty year ago. Has

24:59

the innocent Muslims I don't remember about me

25:01

as I'm old? I'm A. I'm a mom,

25:03

I'm a grandma have. Not that. Oliver and

25:05

a lot that on Sunday the you did have a conversation

25:07

weird and but you don't want to. So. I will not

25:10

talk about my personal conversations with any world leaders

25:12

as as loans and I'm not gonna do it.

25:14

Don't. Ask questions like that. she's a

25:16

mom or grandmom on a grand mom, you

25:18

know. And if you've met him to learn

25:21

the last, the he'd what it's like The

25:23

Queen Too distant, spilling. The. Beans so decided

25:25

legalization. Have been to Moscow I'm not prepared

25:27

to live with a private meetings or conversations

25:29

on my folks who says that I'm if

25:31

it was done with thought it was a

25:34

feeder exact Russian so she's not having a

25:36

great old week but. This last

25:38

week hadn't told Trump invited some of

25:41

the Runners and Rises Apprentice Songs Tomorrow

25:43

audience And it's kind of meant to

25:45

be a fundraiser, but it's also Tynemouth

25:47

to be a beauty contest. I mean,

25:50

we can call it an audition for

25:52

anyone who might. Think. Of

25:54

themselves as his vice president.

25:56

and so on the list you have

25:59

for example to Scott, who's the

26:01

guy that dropped out of the

26:03

Republican candidates race very, very lavishly

26:05

praising Donald Trump, even though he'd

26:07

actually been appointed to his own

26:09

job by Nikki Haley, who stood

26:11

against Trump. And you've also got

26:13

Doug Burgum, who's a very wealthy,

26:15

actually another Dakota governor, North

26:17

Dakota governor, who actually got on

26:20

surprisingly well with Trump and may very

26:22

well make the cut. If Trump's looking

26:24

for a man, it is more likely,

26:27

we think, that he's going to find

26:29

a woman VP just because, electorally,

26:32

that's where his problems lie. Women don't

26:34

really like Trump. And so he might need

26:36

a woman, he thinks, to pull them on

26:38

side. Yeah. And that kind of raises the

26:41

question of a New York Congresswoman calls Elise

26:43

Stefanik, who's very smart, very capable, very Trumpy

26:45

and very, she, she was a moderate Republican

26:47

who's become very, very pro Trump. Doug

26:50

Burgum, I think, actually is

26:52

a very serious candidate because he's straight

26:54

out of the Mike Pence mold. He

26:56

is never going to steal sunlight from

26:58

Donald Trump. He's never going to be

27:00

the one who wants to put himself

27:02

forward at the expense of Donald Trump.

27:04

And that is a critical ask

27:07

of anyone who is going to be

27:09

Donald Trump's VP pick. I want to

27:11

go back to Tim Scott because he

27:13

gave an extraordinary interview on

27:16

Meet the Press, where he is

27:18

asked, will you accept the result of

27:21

the 2024 presidential

27:23

election? For some reason, that

27:25

is a hypothetical question. Will you commit

27:28

to accepting the election results of 2024? Bottom line. At

27:33

the end of the day, the 47th president

27:35

of the United States will be President

27:37

Donald Trump. I'm excited to give back

27:39

to low inflation, low unemployment. Wait, wait,

27:42

Senator, yes or no, yes or no. Will

27:44

you accept the election results of 2024, no

27:46

matter who wins? That

27:50

is my statement. But

27:52

just yes or no. Will you accept the election

27:54

results of 2024? I look

27:58

forward to President Trump being the 47th president. If you

28:00

can ask them multiple times, but I can't

28:02

answer them as much as I can answer them as they do. So

28:05

the American people will make the decision and

28:07

the decision will be for President Trump. That's

28:09

a clear answer. I don't hear you

28:12

committing all the election results. Here's the challenge. Will

28:14

you commit to accepting the election results? Isn't

28:16

it amazing to think that that would ever

28:18

be a controversial question? Is

28:21

that what they call a gotcha? You know,

28:23

if you roll the clock back five years and

28:25

say, Do you accept the result

28:27

of the presidential election? Yes, asking a potential VP

28:29

pick if they would accept the result of the

28:31

election. It's a no-brainer. And the fact

28:33

that those close to Trump, they're not

28:35

really struggling. They're not really struggling to answer

28:38

it. They're struggling to say

28:40

what they think he would want

28:42

them to say. Right?

28:45

And that makes it really ugly, really hard

28:47

to listen to. Exactly. Because they're

28:49

not saying this because they don't

28:51

believe in democracy anymore. They're not

28:53

saying it because they don't accept,

28:56

they don't want to be the people the

28:58

people have spoken. They're saying it because they

29:00

know what Donald Trump wants to hear. And

29:03

Donald Trump wants to hear you saying, well, it

29:05

depends what the result is. And

29:07

Tim Scott, who is a US

29:09

senator who wants to be the

29:11

VP pick for Donald Trump, knows

29:13

what he has to do to

29:15

ingratiate himself with the Donald. And

29:18

as you say, the word is ugly. So

29:20

he has told us now that he's going to

29:22

be announcing his VP pick in Milwaukee. And

29:25

we'll be making that decision, I think, closer

29:27

to Wisconsin time, if you want

29:29

another truth. And that's where the Republican convention is

29:31

taking place. It's the Republican convention, but having

29:34

spent time with Donald Trump at

29:36

his Miss USA beauty contest, there

29:38

is something that feels so similar

29:41

to this. There's going to be, I'm sure, rounds and

29:43

second rounds and third rounds, and we're going to whittle

29:45

it down, and then they're all going to come down

29:47

a gold staircase, or whatever it is. Two other people,

29:49

we should say, are on his list. Your

29:52

favorite, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, now the Arkansas

29:54

governor, but the person that you might

29:56

remember from the West Wing, the briefing rooms,

29:58

when she was his director. of Comms,

30:00

you know, sort of doing the sort of

30:02

press interfacing for him. And

30:04

the Alabama Senator Katie Britt, who

30:07

was the person that we saw sort of

30:10

huddled in her kitchen after the State

30:12

of the Union address. You know, this

30:14

is where our family has tough conversations.

30:16

It's where we make hard decisions. It's

30:19

where we share the good, the bad and

30:21

the ugly of our days. It's

30:23

where we laugh together. And it's

30:26

where we hold each other's hands and

30:28

pray for God's guidance. And

30:30

many nights, to be honest, it's

30:34

where Wesley and I worry. I

30:36

know we're not alone. And so

30:38

tonight, the American family

30:41

needs to have a tough

30:43

conversation, because the truth

30:45

is, we're all worried about the

30:47

future of our nation. Another

30:50

I'm a mom person. There is nothing

30:52

wrong with being a mother, but it is amazing how

30:54

politicians on the political right so often reach

30:56

for that as a way of saying, I

31:00

may express absolutely outlandish views, but I'm a

31:02

mom. I'm a mom. So therefore it's fine.

31:05

If it's Sarah Huckabee Sanders, that would be a very, very interesting

31:08

pick. You know, her dad had been

31:10

the governor of Arkansas. He had once

31:13

gone for the presidential nomination and had

31:15

won the Iowa caucus. Mike Huckabee. Sarah

31:18

Huckabee Sanders is not

31:20

your classic Dolly Bird kind of image

31:23

of a Donald Trump beauty parade

31:25

person. But she's very effective. And

31:27

she knows Trump extremely well. His

31:29

shortcomings and the advantages would

31:32

probably fit in well. But what's going

31:34

to happen is that the cameras will

31:36

be invited to set up outside some

31:38

room somewhere in Milwaukee and you'll watch

31:40

them come in and watch them go

31:43

out. It'll be like you're going for

31:45

a job interview where you're being filmed

31:47

as you arrive. Well, it's literally the apprentice

31:49

of it. I mean, you know, he's taken

31:52

one series and applied it to his entire

31:54

life. Let us also

31:56

talk to you about what

31:58

happened in Indiana last month. night which

32:00

yeah I mean Indiana I'm

32:03

not gonna call it a swing state but

32:05

it is a state that has been a

32:08

swing state in the past and it was

32:10

it's been rather Republican of

32:12

late yeah it is also where

32:14

Pete Buttigieg the Democrat transportation secretary

32:16

came from he was the mayor

32:18

of South Bend in Indiana so

32:20

kind of rust belt Midwest state

32:22

yeah but this was quite an

32:24

interesting primary and it does sound

32:27

weird that even though we kind of

32:29

know that Donald Trump is the Republican

32:31

candidate for president the primaries continue because

32:33

they want to give every state their

32:35

chance to have their vote and even

32:38

the Nikki Haley pulled out of the

32:40

race two three months ago now she

32:43

still knows she get 22% of the

32:45

vote that's nearly a hundred and thirty

32:47

thousand votes and I think you

32:49

have to say not oh is Nikki Haley

32:51

going to be present she isn't but you

32:54

do have to worry about her getting such

32:56

a large percentage of the vote in places

32:59

where Trump is already vulnerable because

33:01

it's quite marginal yeah I

33:03

think it's absolutely fascinating it suggests

33:06

that the Republican Party has not

33:09

united around Donald Trump and

33:11

I've always thought this that the solidity

33:13

of Trump's base is immense that

33:16

30 35 percent of the American

33:18

it's very solid it's just solid and dense

33:20

and it isn't going to change but

33:22

for Donald Trump to win the presidential election he needs to

33:24

be at 45 47 percent and he's not getting

33:28

there yet and there is still

33:30

the refusenix in the Republican Party

33:33

who won't countenance him as the

33:35

next president after what happened between

33:38

2016 and 2020 and of course what happened on the 6th

33:40

of January 2021 when it looked

33:42

like he just could not accept giving up the

33:44

reins of power and there was the attempted insurrection

33:46

at the Capitol I mean not

33:49

since Obama won in 2008

33:51

has Indiana gone

33:53

Democrat so it's a Republican state but

33:55

if you've got a sizable number of

33:57

Republicans who think I don't want it

34:00

Then you've got a problem. I mean, just watch how

34:03

quickly Biden gets himself to Indiana now. I

34:05

would have thought that's almost a given. Trump won it

34:07

by 400,000 votes. It's

34:10

not nothing, but it's pretty easy to take

34:12

that if you think that there are enough

34:14

people, enough Republicans in Indiana who

34:16

are going to stay home. The

34:20

News Agents USA with Emily Maitless

34:22

and John Sopell. The

34:27

News Agents USA. There

34:30

is an American cultural tradition.

34:32

It's sort of like the roast, where

34:35

you take a celebrity, you

34:38

get other celebrities, and instead of

34:40

going on and saying, he's so

34:42

marvelous, and I love him so

34:44

much, and he's really great, he's

34:46

really wonderful, you do the absolute

34:48

reverse. You just rip the piss

34:50

out of that person mercilessly. This

34:53

weekend, it was Tom

34:55

Brady, America's most storied quarterback

34:58

from the New England Patriots and on and

35:00

on. Unbelievable career he

35:03

had had. America's sweetheart married a supermodel,

35:05

especially to the Boston, if he didn't

35:07

leave his job. Six

35:09

foot four, chiseled, articulate,

35:11

talented, brilliant, la, la, la, la.

35:15

Some friends, inverted commas, went

35:17

on stage to talk about him, his

35:20

supermodel ex-wife, and where that

35:22

all went wrong, and a few other

35:24

things besides. Tom Brady is the Patriot,

35:26

which is surprising considering he looks like

35:29

a Confederate fag. Clearly your ex-wife takes

35:31

after you. I hear she's out there

35:33

draining balls right now. People

35:35

love you, Tom. You have the same fan

35:37

base as Kyle Rittenhouse. You have seven rings,

35:39

well eight now that Giselle gave her its

35:41

back, but... So

35:44

this was such a big cultural moment, it

35:46

was actually streamed on Netflix, and it got

35:48

us remembering. I mean, I suppose the nearest

35:50

we have, and this is going to sound

35:52

pitiful, is PMQs, where they kind of

35:55

go, ooh, it would be nice if you could

35:57

get out of London if you don't mind

35:59

leaving the... tube, oh you're from Islington

36:01

or oh you don't understand what this

36:03

is or what woman is or whatever.

36:05

Anyway they do that in PMQs quite

36:08

a lot to each other but there

36:10

was a time not so long ago 2011 actually

36:14

when Donald Trump faced

36:17

his own roast, this was on Comedy

36:19

Central and blimey

36:21

if you listen back to it it

36:23

does turn out to be quite a bit. And

36:26

just if you've never seen it Donald Trump is

36:28

sitting on what appears to be a throne you

36:30

know kind of it's all guilt and it's very

36:32

Trumpian and he's trying to keep

36:34

a smile up while some of

36:36

this is unfolding. Now for me to

36:38

you Donald I wish I had half of your money but

36:41

for that you need a 20 year old's pussy and

36:43

a divorce lawyer. Now

36:46

I may not have half his paper but

36:48

I got twice the dick and you can believe that.

36:53

Donald say he wants to run for president

36:55

and move on into the White House. Why

36:57

not? It wouldn't be the first time

37:00

you pushed a black family out of their home. All

37:03

jokes aside though I was thrilled when

37:05

they offered me the opportunity to roast

37:07

such a brilliant charismatic totally self-made billionaire

37:09

who I believe will one day run

37:11

this country. Then

37:14

the Facebook guy canceled and we got stuck with with

37:16

your bloated ass. Tonight

37:18

we honor a self-made millionaire. He

37:21

started with nothing worked hard and made a

37:23

fortune. That man

37:25

is Fred Trump

37:27

Donald's dad. Tonight

37:30

people will make fun of your looks. Fuck

37:32

them! You've always gotten

37:34

beautiful women. You've disappointed more

37:37

women than sex in the

37:39

city too. You are the

37:41

ultimate proof that money can

37:43

buy good-looking pussies. If

37:46

you were broke you'd be fucking me. I

37:50

mean let's not put too final

37:52

point on it and where we

37:54

started with the testimony that

37:56

Stormy Daniels would go on to

37:59

give. nearly 14 years

38:01

after that roast about the money

38:03

that she was paid to keep

38:05

her mouth shut after having sex

38:07

with Donald Trump in a Nevada hotel

38:10

room. The past is prologue. We'll be

38:12

back next week. See you then. Bye bye. You can

38:14

fight for now. This

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