This week we speak to academic Jo McShane and consider the practice of (off-Rolling). Jo workks for the University of Sunderland and her current research foci are illegal school exclusion (off-rolling) practices in English Secondary schools, and the development of 'Assessment Literacy' for students in Higher education.

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