Vernon Gibbs II is a stay at home dad and blogger who recently took a conversation with his kids about perspective on food and turned it into a children's book about healthy eating and not discarding something or someone just because of their outside looks. 

Also, during this episode we discuss becoming a stay-at-home dad, having twins and experiencing pregnancy loss of twins, and then the birth of his twins. 

I hope you will also consider buying his book "When Good Fruit Goes Bad" https://www.amazon.com/When-Good-Fruit-Goes-Bad/dp/1087859727/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=vernon+gibbs&qid=1603918943&sr=8-1