Welcome back to another episode of The Nutritional Pearls Podcast with your hosts Jimmy Moore and Christine Moore, NTP.  The debate over obesity and chronic disease rages on with so many people putting forth their theories about what's going on. And two of those arguments explaining why people get fat and sick were on full display on one of the most uber-popular podcasts in the world featuring Joe Rogan. Watch the YouTube video link below (WARNING: it's nearly three hours of bickering back and forth between the featured guests). Joe Rogan Experience #1267 - Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet:  Health podcaster and international bestselling author of KETO CLARITY Jimmy Moore along with his Nutritional Therapy Practitioner wife Christine sat through the extremely long back and forth between science journalist and New York Times bestselling author of GOOD CALORIES, BAD CALORIES Gary Taubes and researcher and the author of HUNGRY BRAIN Dr. Stephan Guyenet listening to them hash out their respective positions on nutritional health. Watch to hear what their reaction to the debate was for this JIMMY RANTS/Nutritional Pearls Podcast crossover episode in this video. Follow the live JIMMY RANTS episodes on his YouTube Live channel () twice daily and the rest of his work at . And for more JIMMY RANTS, check out all of his past episodes at . "I think Stefan's point is that if you stop eating highly palatable food you immediately go back to normal but he doesn't take into account the damage that might have been done generations back." – Christine Moore, NTP "This is the problem with the nutritional health space; it ends up being a pissing match when it can be a little bit of truth from both." – Jimmy Moore