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Looking forward to it, Christ I'm coming to your

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Oh yeah, I'm going to see Dwight

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Gooden is having his number

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retired by the Mets on Sunday,

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so I will be present for that.

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So I'm coming to town for a few days.

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So yeah, looking forward to it.

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That's good, that's good. You know, next

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Or on a weekday, we can do the show

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from a spot in New York. We did it from

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the Club two seventy five Park and you right.

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Another friend of mine who owns a jewelry

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you know, like Marvel Jewelry and.

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The five you

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know, what is that the Gauntlet?

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You know what I'm saying.

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I'm not into the Infinity gaunletnlet.

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He has a storeroom, a

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storefront, i should say, where they

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sell. They've got the Infinity Gauntlet

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and all that stuff. It's a collector item. He

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actually, yeah, it's a collector's item. So

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we could maybe do the show from there. Let

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me know if you're in New York during the weekday,

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Okay, where we could do it because he wants

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us to do it from there.

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Okay, yeah, we'll do that.

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I'm sure I'll be back and

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this week I'll be doing the show Chris from

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the studio on fifty fifth Street.

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Have you ever done it?

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Oh?

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So you will be in New York. Yeah, I'll be in

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new When are you getting in this town tonight?

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Tomorrow morning?

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Oh?

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Oh oh yeah. I always take the Red

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Eye. It's a it's an unbelievable.

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And they're retiring number Sunday

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Sunday.

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Yeah, yeah, it's I'm

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flying Spirits straight to Newark.

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So I'm gonna be in your state. Are you ready

2:56

for this? Guess?

2:56

So?

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What your costs one way?

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From thirty seven dollars?

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Very close? Forty

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three eighty bucks?

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Can you believe that?

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I don't even understand how they make money

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from La Chris to

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New Jersey or like.

3:14

Like folding chairs

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around.

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I got, I got exit row, I

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got a free bag checked, I

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got a free bag on board, all

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for eighty bucks.

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Yes, then they used to charge

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you for bag.

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They do charge you, but I'm a gold member,

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so I get it for free.

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You shouldn't say that too loud of gold bro

3:35

Spirits.

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I know right, that's my

3:38

car blotch. I'm not like you. I don't have bar

3:40

I'm not sleeping in the pod because Fox

3:43

FS one is flying you cross country

3:46

and they put you in the pod for to night.

3:48

You amazed me because some things you

3:50

just.

3:51

Spend big money,

3:53

I know, and then you do all these little

3:55

you know.

3:56

I gotta I gotta cut corners somewhere.

3:58

I gotta kuck more power

4:00

to you, all right, Rob So Russell

4:03

Wilson, Rob G. Russell Wilson

4:05

was named like Sexiest Man Alive or

4:07

something like that by Essence Magazine.

4:10

Close. He was named Essence Magazine's

4:13

Sexiest Man of the Moment this week.

4:15

Now, I don't know if that is the moment.

4:17

I have no idea. Maybe Sexist Man Alive is copyrighted

4:20

or whatever, but that's.

4:21

Their probably probably. Yeah.

4:24

So he was their sexiest

4:27

Man of the Moment and they

4:29

did a whole feature article about him. The photos are

4:31

fantastic.

4:32

We haven't seen him yet.

4:33

Go check him out.

4:33

Sexy, sure, if

4:35

that's the word you want to use. But

4:38

in the article he focused a lot on his

4:40

points of his faith in his household and his

4:43

family and things like that. And there was also

4:45

a large portion of

4:47

the feature that focused on him

4:50

being a black NFL quarterback, because you know,

4:52

for a long time, there weren't very many of them at all. And

4:55

Russell Wilson himself was quoted

4:58

as saying that he thinks that he

5:00

feels that he blazed a new trail

5:03

for black athletes in the NFL.

5:04

Here's his quote.

5:06

For me, to be able to go back to back Super

5:08

Bowls and win one of them, I think

5:10

opened up a lot of doors. Now you see guys

5:12

like Mahomes who want it. It's

5:14

really just us so far, but there's more coming. The emergence

5:17

of quarterbacks.

5:19

He said, who else?

5:20

There's only been three?

5:21

Oh yeah, I know.

5:23

But he made it

5:23

like like it was a flood

5:26

gate because he come on, man, like go

5:28

ahead, Rob.

5:29

So he continues.

5:30

The emergency quarterbacks like Mahomes, Jalen Hurts,

5:32

Lamar Jackson, CJ Strowd, to name a few, is

5:34

indicative of a new era of football and

5:37

a glimpse into what the sport is trending towards.

5:39

What I love to see is guys getting drafted early and

5:41

a lot of teams these days have black quarterbacks

5:44

playing for them. It's all across the league, and

5:46

it's showing how the NFL is starting to evolve,

5:49

change and break down barriers. I

5:51

think one of the biggest blessings of my career

5:53

so far is that I've been fortunate

5:55

to be able to open up doors for others because

5:57

of what others did for me.

6:01

What are your thoughts on that, right, I'm

6:06

I just don't look at him as a trail blazer

6:08

to open the door for black quarterbacks.

6:10

I mean, I'm saying he succeeded going

6:13

to back to back Super Bowls, Chris a

6:16

great accomplishment, but it

6:19

had already started. I mean, I

6:21

and Doug Williams is

6:23

the guy that I remember who kicked the

6:25

door down in the Super Bowl, Chris. And you

6:28

remember how big that first black quarterback

6:30

to win the Super Bowl And for

6:32

people don't know, he was named the Super Bowl

6:34

MVP after breaking two Super Bowl

6:36

records, you ready, three hundred and forty

6:39

total yards and being the first

6:41

to throw four touchdowns in a quarter.

6:43

If you remember, Chris, I think it was the second

6:45

quarter of that Super Bowl.

6:47

It was basically over. It was over.

6:48

He was unbelievable. Yeah, he had a

6:51

monster game and that was

6:53

a breakthrough. That was a turning

6:55

point with the black quarterback. And

6:57

I'm not knocking Russell Wilson,

6:59

but the patting on the back for

7:01

Patrick Mahomes, it ain't like this ten quarterbacks.

7:04

Since he's done it.

7:06

I'm just saying it feels

7:08

it feels a little contrived that

7:11

I.

7:11

Think what he says is great, it's

7:13

fine, but yeah, you don't

7:15

think of him as the trailblazer for black

7:17

quarterbacks. And again, that's not an insult.

7:20

It's not like your question, you question his blackness,

7:23

nothing like, not at all the trail blaze.

7:26

There's I think there's a couple of waves.

7:28

The first wave was James

7:31

Harris, Rob. You remember James

7:33

Harris played for the Rams, and

7:35

then and and Doug Williams.

7:37

And who was the other one with the Steelers? Was it Jim

7:40

Gillian Joe Gillen, jojo' gillen.

7:42

Who really kind of beat out

7:44

Brashaw. Then they made brash

7:47

All the start. I don't know if Gillen got hurt, but

7:49

you know, brash I ended up becoming the start and the

7:51

rest is history. But it

7:54

was James Harris, and then Doug

7:57

Williams.

7:59

And then Rob.

8:00

I think the guy that really

8:03

kicked the door down.

8:05

Was Michael Vick one hundred percent,

8:07

cut right, one hundred percent,

8:10

Chris one hundred percent. And

8:12

when I think of Michael Vick, you know what

8:14

I think of. He was the first quarterback

8:16

to go to Green Bay to win, like like that

8:18

was one of those moments, like nobody

8:21

that Green Bay had not lost a home game or

8:23

something in the postseason, and he was

8:25

the first one to go in there and win.

8:28

But I'm I'm with you on Michael Vick. He was

8:30

the running style and

8:33

the arm, you know, like like yeah, he did change

8:35

it.

8:35

I mean it look it started even

8:38

a little, you know, like there was a trickling

8:41

before him. I'm looking now, Rob,

8:43

And you know, I used to write for ESPN the magazine,

8:45

and you probably remember this cover. It was

8:47

from nineteen ninety nine,

8:50

so it was April nineteen.

8:52

So I guess that would have been right right before the

8:54

draft.

8:54

So going into the draft, and

8:57

they had Achille Smith, Don

9:00

McNabb, Dante Colepepper.

9:03

All three of those guys are black, and

9:05

Kay McNown who's white. But

9:08

those four were on there as like the

9:10

big quarterbacks in that upcoming. Think about

9:12

how long ago that was, right, that's

9:14

ninety nine. So Vic

9:17

entered the league in two thousand and one, and

9:20

so it had like the doors

9:22

had started opening. The reason

9:24

I say Vic kind of bursted open

9:27

is because I think once

9:29

he came into the league, and let's face it,

9:31

he wasn't a Hall of.

9:32

Fame level quarterback.

9:35

But I

9:37

think Rob, even though there had

9:39

been Randall, cunney, Ham and McNab

9:41

ran some and remember Steve McNair too,

9:44

but Vic, it

9:47

was like people started

9:49

looking at the app the way he ran,

9:51

and I think really seeing how man,

9:55

you really can't have a great

9:57

runner at quarterback and

10:00

be competitive in the league.

10:02

And then I

10:05

think that you know, at that point,

10:07

and I think people start to kind of feel

10:09

like, well, the game has become more athletic.

10:12

Linebackers are faster than they used.

10:14

To be and things like that, and I

10:16

think there just started to be more of

10:18

an understanding or feeling that,

10:21

Okay, you need a little bit

10:23

of athleticism. I don't want to overstate

10:25

it, but I feel

10:28

Rob like Vic. After

10:30

Vic, it was like, Okay,

10:33

if the best quarterback in the country's black,

10:36

we're taking him. Because you're at JaMarcus Russell

10:38

and Jameis Winston and all these

10:40

guys and drafting the black quarterback number

10:42

one didn't It wasn't a big deal anymore.

10:45

Was Vic?

10:45

Rob g the.

10:49

Who was the first black quarterback to he

10:51

might have been the first to be drafted number

10:53

one.

10:53

He probably was, right.

10:55

Mean, let me give you that. Remember I was telling you about

10:57

the playoff. When I look it up, he

10:59

was twenty two years old, Chris. They beat the

11:01

Packers twenty seven to seven. This

11:03

was in two thousand and two and

11:07

it was the first time the Packers lost the

11:09

home playoff camp that was a wild card game.

11:11

Can you believe that?

11:12

Man? Yeah, yeah, that was yeah.

11:16

I was Michael Vick.

11:17

Rob He's the first black quarterback

11:19

to be drafted number one, So that I was

11:21

just going off kind of how our feet felt

11:23

about it. But that right

11:26

there is a huge you know, that's that's

11:28

kicking the door in and now, of

11:30

course there's no big deal.

11:31

To see a black quarterback drafted number one, but.

11:33

I look, Russell, it's not taking anything

11:35

away from him. He is the second quarterback

11:38

to win the Super black quarterback to win

11:40

the Super Bowl. He

11:42

was rob G and I were talking about it, and Rob

11:45

G was like, well, he was a game

11:47

manager. It wasn't like he led those teams.

11:49

But I was like, but that was progress. Like

11:52

before they weren't gonna have a black quarterback in the

11:54

game. The game, it'd be some super superhuman

11:57

athlete like Michael Vic, you

11:59

know, to get a shot or just a straight

12:02

drop. I mean, Doug Williams had a cannon.

12:04

You know, they just couldn't deny him, you

12:07

know, the right to play. And obviously you had a Warren

12:09

Moon. But yeah, I think

12:11

that was progress in that.

12:14

Obviously, Russell Wilson was great,

12:16

but he was a

12:19

kind of a game manager, which was

12:22

some some progress in the

12:24

perception of black quarterbacks. But yeah,

12:26

I don't it's nothing. I don't

12:28

think negatively, it's neat. It

12:30

just doesn't sound right, But I

12:33

don't you don't think of him as a trailblazer

12:36

for black quarterbacks though.

12:37

I mean, he's.

12:39

He's in that second third wave of

12:41

guys and now it's you know, it's just natural

12:44

now.

12:44

But you talked about it earlier, the other all

12:47

the other black quarterbacks that were drafted

12:49

together.

12:49

I mean that that was a way before

12:51

him.

12:52

That was yeah, that was a few years before him,

12:54

So you know, now

12:57

it's obviously commonplaces. It seems like,

12:59

what about half the teams in the league

13:01

now they have a black starting

13:03

quarterback. So all right, eight seven seven, ninety

13:05

nine on Fox was

13:08

Russell Wilson, a trailblazer

13:11

for African American quarterbacks.

13:13

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13:15

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13:18

with him? Kind of putting that out there. We're not

13:20

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13:22

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13:24

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13:26

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15:02

Your thoughts?

15:06

All right, let's kick it off, and

15:09

let's start with Jay in Bakersfield,

15:12

California, a place I

15:14

have visited.

15:15

You're on the Hot Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up,

15:17

Jay, what's up?

15:19

Guys? First time, long

15:21

time, Thank you.

15:22

I just want to thank you guys.

15:24

I just wanted to agree with you. Vi Vicky

15:27

was the one that came to mind. But I

15:30

did have the thought he did

15:33

kind of become a trailblazer

15:36

for five eleven quarterbacks

15:38

with smaller hands, because there wasn't a whole

15:40

lot of guys before him that I

15:42

could come up with off the top of my head that was

15:44

doing that before him.

15:47

Yeah, but that's a narrow you know what I mean,

15:49

Like I mean, fran Tarkinson

15:52

was a small you know, Doug Flutey quarterback,

15:54

Doug Flutie of course.

15:56

Really then the conversation

15:58

started to come up around the combine.

16:01

It wasn't a conversation that he really

16:03

came up a whole lot until he started having his

16:05

success.

16:06

Yeah, I'm not.

16:07

I'm not, And we we're not trying to rip

16:10

Russ at all.

16:10

I mean to say, he doesn't have a

16:13

place. Yeah, Yeah, if you didn't throw that pick

16:15

Chris to lose the Super

16:17

Bowl, he'd be it'd be a totally

16:19

different conversation back to back.

16:22

Uh and and if he would have thrown the game winning

16:24

touchdown there and win and won that Super

16:26

Bowl?

16:26

Are you kidding? Changes a lot of things.

16:29

And breeze of course, you know for small

16:31

quarterbacks.

16:35

John and Kentucky you're in the odd couple of Fox

16:37

Sports Radio.

16:38

What's up?

16:38

John?

16:39

Hey?

16:39

What's going on?

16:40

Guys? Love y'all?

16:41

Hey, I got to say, get propped

16:43

to Russell Wilson. First, I mean, he comes to a

16:45

lot. He's obviously was an underdog when

16:48

he you know, got that Seattle starting

16:50

job lot and I

16:52

mean his wife, so let's throw that in there.

16:55

But uh, he

16:57

he need to get over himself with this pioneer stuff.

16:59

But in the question, and I

17:01

was thinking vic or Doug Williams,

17:03

but he wasn't even in my first

17:06

thoughts. So I agree with you, guys.

17:08

I just don't think he

17:10

can be putting that. You know, it

17:12

happened long before he came around, I

17:14

think.

17:14

So.

17:15

Yeah, And I.

17:16

Don't mind him saying I mean, you know, I don't

17:18

feel like he's you know, some

17:20

people might be upset with him saying

17:22

it, Rob and I do think that is for

17:25

those people, this is the type of quote

17:28

that makes them question

17:30

his sincerity, you know what I mean like they'll

17:34

look at something like this and think he's grand

17:36

standing or trying to take credit or being

17:38

phony. There's a lot of people out there that think

17:40

that about Russ And this is

17:42

the type of comment why I don't mind it.

17:45

It is the type of comment that some people will point

17:47

to.

17:48

Yeah, it's just it's you know, when

17:50

you're saying that that

17:52

you're a trail blazer. If you're going

17:54

to put that out there, Chris, you gotta have like, dude,

17:57

that was the first black quarterback to ever win

18:00

a Super Bowl.

18:01

You know what I mean?

18:01

That man that if that had been that,

18:04

he would add a point.

18:05

That's a trailblazer. Am I right? That that

18:07

would be a trailblazer.

18:08

And he's had, you know, obviously a better career

18:11

than Doug william so he would have been able to

18:13

say.

18:13

That, right.

18:15

Mike and Augusta, you're

18:18

on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

18:20

What up though?

18:21

Coming live from Augusta?

18:23

Man, What up though? We're from Detroit.

18:27

No, I just watch a lot of

18:30

Being Station.

18:31

Yes, yes, a lot of yomt

18:33

raps. Yeah, that's

18:36

gonna be the morning show on Sports Rap Radio.

18:38

What up the Morning Show?

18:42

Yeah? Oh yeah, about

18:44

spirit. I got I'm gonna talk about the quarterback, but

18:46

I fly spirit too. I got a trip from

18:48

from Atlanta to

18:50

to Dallas, Texas round trip for two hundred

18:53

and sixty dollars.

18:54

So Spirit is the way to go.

18:55

And do you have Louis Vatan seats

18:57

and you're gonnaian Chris be Quiet?

19:01

I had nobody sitting next to me going

19:04

or coming. But yeah,

19:07

so what comes to mind. I went to this little school

19:09

called alcorn State University in Mississippi,

19:11

and we had a quarterback named Steve Ning there and

19:14

Steve Steeving there. If I'm

19:16

not mistaken, he was the first mobile

19:19

quarterback, not a runner, but a

19:21

mobile quarterback that was black

19:23

and won an MVP. So I think of

19:26

him as the trailblazer that

19:28

that laid the foundation for the Vics.

19:30

Now, I know there was random cunning a bit.

19:32

But he was.

19:34

I mean, for a couple of seasons there, McNair

19:37

was like viewed as one

19:39

of the absolute best quarterbacks in the league.

19:41

For yeah, he was unbelievable. Without Corn

19:43

State too, my god, oh yeah, oh my

19:45

god.

19:45

I was in a band, so I got to watch it every Saturday.

19:48

Wow.

19:49

Yeah, yeah, I once I

19:51

did.

19:51

Thanks for the call. Appreciated, Chris. I did a feature

19:53

for remember this. The Source

19:56

had a sports magazine. The

19:58

Source, I do remember that Chris

20:00

Wilder was the editor and they had me do

20:04

a magazine piece or a freelance

20:06

piece on black quarterbacks

20:09

and I got to interview them. They all had them come down

20:11

to DC and and I can't remember

20:13

where we were, but we took a train ride and

20:16

me and Steve McNair took the

20:18

DC subway Chris for

20:21

like you know, ten of twelve stops together

20:23

and talked the whole train ride.

20:24

It was. It was I still remember that.

20:27

Yeah, yeah, he got He was very

20:30

good quarterback. All right, Antonio

20:32

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I'll give you here's my marital advice. Real

20:47

quick.

20:49

Marriage is like a job. If

20:52

you don't work at it, you're gonna get

20:54

fired.

20:56

Wow wow, Chris, that

20:58

dark note. What got don't work at

21:00

it? Don't you work on your marriage twenty

21:02

five years later?

21:04

You do?

21:04

Am I wrong?

21:05

You didn't work on yours though. That's that's

21:07

kind of.

21:07

What maybe not early on, I don't know, maybe

21:10

it was too late. I don't know.

21:12

All right, but anyway, this just gotten

21:14

dark here up in here.

21:15

All right, let's lighten it up with the NBA

21:18

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21:20

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21:22

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21:25

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21:27

Antonio Daniels, Antonio,

21:29

what's up.

21:30

Man, Antonio?

21:30

That's good marital advice, isn't

21:33

it?

21:37

Antonio is like me, Antonio, I was married

21:40

for married, right, Antonio.

21:42

Yes, twenty years this summer.

21:45

Congrats, man, that's great, that's

21:47

great.

21:47

Hey, but you have to work at it. That's my point

21:50

to the young guys.

21:51

Antonio, Right, even though you love somebody,

21:53

you still gotta work at it.

21:55

Yeah, but why didn't you just say, you

21:57

know, you just have to work at your man?

21:58

Right? Right?

22:00

What is the whole fire part? Got to do it anything?

22:03

You know what? For anything to work, marriage

22:05

life, for anything to work right, get

22:08

better, you actually have to put into time, working,

22:10

energy and effort and work at it.

22:12

Yes, that's the part.

22:13

This part.

22:14

I remember that when I got and you could get fired

22:16

when.

22:16

I'm when I'm eighty and I get my nineteen

22:19

year old wife, I'll try.

22:20

That this that time.

22:22

Okay, you all

22:25

right, man to Neil, Let's get to this NBA.

22:27

I mean, we got a lot of places we can go.

22:29

Let's start with the Phoenix Sons thirty

22:32

five to four in

22:35

a game they need, right

22:37

they trying to stay out of the play, and now you're in

22:39

it right now.

22:40

I don't how do how

22:42

does that happen?

22:45

A team just get I mean, I

22:48

don't understand how would those players team

22:50

that good?

22:50

To be honest with you, that that literally so

22:53

we were playing the Pelicans were playing last

22:55

night at the same time, and

22:59

I can't explain that to you. When it's thirty five to

23:01

four and the four points that the

23:04

Phoenix Sons had were from Drew you banks

23:07

that when you got the red, Devin

23:09

Booker, Bradley Beal

23:12

and Grayson Allen having the best year

23:15

of his career, I have no idea.

23:17

And Kawhi Leonard

23:20

were out for the Clippers right right.

23:22

Right, I don't. I don't even

23:25

without James Harden and Kawhi Leonard.

23:28

The fact that those three guys

23:30

almost winning the entire quarter the fact

23:33

that they were down thirty three points at halftime.

23:36

The big volumes. The interesting

23:39

thing is they play again today?

23:41

Yeah, right, Well the Clippers are sitting everybody.

23:43

It looks like, you know, most of their top l.

23:46

This is the same Phoenix Sons team that

23:48

lost to Oklahoma

23:50

City without Shake Killders Alexander, without

23:53

j Dupp. Yeah, this is the same la. I

23:55

mean, the same Phoenix Sons team that lost

23:57

to the San Antonious Birds without

23:59

Big Wa. So who knows.

24:02

So you do you not expect much

24:04

at all from them in the postseason, Phoenix?

24:06

No, I do. I do expect a lot from them,

24:09

because here's the thing. I can't be a prisoner

24:11

of the moment of that game. Remember,

24:14

how see, this is the thing that always happens when

24:16

you get to this time of the season. It's

24:18

such an Evan flow where if you

24:20

erase the New Orleans Pelicans game,

24:22

and you erased the game last night, now

24:25

Phoenix people were back to talking to

24:28

right. They had been looking great. And the

24:31

thing now, the narrative changes every day.

24:33

So a team is a championship team, then they

24:35

go out and play a bad game, and then they're

24:37

not. Then they go out and play two or three games and

24:39

they're back in the championship conversations. No, Phoenix

24:42

showed me a lot of what they

24:44

needed to show me. I don't care what these last two

24:47

or three games look like. They have the

24:49

firepower, They have the star power

24:51

to be a legitimate threat come

24:53

postseason times.

24:55

What about the Milwaukee Bucks because I

24:57

think that even when with Yon

25:00

unless when he was healthy, they were

25:02

trending in the wrong direction with Rock

25:05

and I, you know, I think they're going to get knocked

25:07

out in the first round either

25:09

way.

25:10

Well, the thing is, I don't know if they're going to get knocked

25:12

down in the first round and not. I don't think they're going

25:14

to accomplish what they set out to accomplish when

25:17

they acquired Damian Lillard. Because

25:19

the difference with the Milwaukee Bucks

25:21

and the

25:23

Phoenix Suns is the Milwaukee Bucks have

25:25

not looked right since Doc River got there.

25:28

It's not like there was ever

25:31

a time where Milwaukee was playing.

25:33

They put together a fifteen game run.

25:36

Okay, that's six.

25:38

Sixth

25:40

game run is nothing.

25:41

A six game run is nothing, But for me, it

25:43

goes all the way back to Adrian Griffiths. Right

25:46

when you win seventy percent of your games.

25:48

I wonder what that locker room is like

25:50

now. And I said this on our Serious

25:52

XM show, because if this

25:55

is somebody else, if this is Lebron, if this is

25:57

Step, this is some of the other stars, we are

25:59

putting out of the accountability on the

26:01

Stars. They don't make

26:03

that move without talking to Gip,

26:06

without talking to Damian Luter. But we just kind

26:08

of let those guys fly, and we're putting it

26:10

on Doc Rivers, which I think is unfair.

26:13

What let's go to a they

26:15

were playing last night against the Celtics.

26:17

Now, look, the Bucks only had two free

26:19

throws last night.

26:21

Celtics had none.

26:24

I mean, I don't

26:26

I think sometimes they took fifty two

26:28

threes and I know it's one game. I'm not and I don't

26:30

think they were even you know, they weren't really

26:32

into the game. I get all that, But

26:35

I my concern about Boston

26:38

Antonio. As great as they've looked for most

26:40

of the season, and I'm they're my pick to win

26:43

the East, but I do sometimes

26:46

worry that they fall

26:48

in love too much with the three and even

26:50

though they've got guys that can drive, take

26:53

mere rain shots and then prezingas

26:55

you got a guy that can post when he wants.

26:58

They I don't know that they go there

27:00

as much as they could. So

27:03

was last night. You think I'm reading too

27:05

much into it. They don't take it.

27:07

They take four threes than

27:09

anybody, and they don't take a lot of free

27:11

throws.

27:12

That's also their identity,

27:14

that's also their strength. But I will

27:17

say last night to me, wasn't even about

27:19

Boston and it wasn't about Milwaukee. It's

27:21

about the change in the whistle since

27:24

the All Star break. If you're

27:26

watching these games now, and I know the NBA has come

27:28

out and they said, you know what, there was no meetings

27:30

to say that we're going to allow more

27:32

tonicality. If you're watching these games

27:34

now, they're allowing so much

27:36

more contact than they did in the

27:38

first fifty games of the season, right they are

27:41

last night? To me, that's more of a definition

27:43

of the way the

27:45

games are being officiated now as opposed

27:48

to the team. I don't care what level of basketball

27:50

you go to. When you have two professional

27:53

teams and they combined for two free

27:55

throws, that's not two teams that are just shooting

27:57

off threes. That's allowing a lot more fish

28:00

decality when once you allow for the majority

28:02

of the season in my opinions.

28:05

Let me ask you about the report

28:07

that Adam Silver uh

28:10

could throw the book at Porter U

28:13

John Tay Johntay Porter for

28:15

this whole gambling scandal. What

28:18

do you expect to happen if they do find

28:20

out that he

28:22

was betting, you know, prop bets on himself

28:25

and then you know, had some suspicious

28:28

activity which which gambler

28:30

is deemed as definitely uh

28:32

he was the fix was in, you know what I

28:35

mean, to to help him win and

28:37

his family of friends or whoever else bet on that.

28:39

What do you expect the penalty to be

28:41

that severe that he'd be banned from the league.

28:44

I would expect it, Pennerby, to be that severe,

28:46

honestly, with all due respected Johntay

28:49

Porter, it's because he

28:52

doesn't have the name. So he's a

28:54

great guy to make an example of, yep,

28:58

a great guy to make it his dame. It's easy then,

29:00

I mean, it's respectfully, it's easy to ban

29:02

a guy.

29:03

I know what you mean.

29:04

You know what I mean. But like, let's let's

29:06

use a star, put a star in

29:09

that place. Do you think he gets banned.

29:12

Well, it just depends.

29:13

And I'll say this all the time, because

29:15

Baseball didn't want to.

29:17

Suspend ban him from baseball.

29:19

He's the all time hit later, but they

29:21

had no choice because, as

29:23

you know, you can't play with the

29:25

integrity of the league.

29:27

Man, ask you got the question

29:30

and just just be honest here, Let's

29:32

be honest. Let's keep it one hundred here. Do you

29:34

think John k Porter is the only one

29:37

that guilty of there?

29:41

Nobody? But but but you gotta get caught.

29:44

Do you know what I mean? Do I think?

29:45

Right?

29:46

You gotta be.

29:47

Caught along those lines,

29:49

Antony, I think this, like you mentioned,

29:51

if he's a superstar. Does this happen if

29:54

he's a superstar and it's out publicly,

29:57

I don't think. And he was betting on him

30:00

self right and then budging the

30:02

game. Yeah, I do think

30:04

he would be banned. But I

30:07

think if the league found out

30:10

that a superstar was doing this, I

30:12

think they probably this goes for any of the

30:14

leagues, probably try to keep it quiet

30:18

and talk to the player

30:20

and make him stop. Now, a

30:22

lot of this stuff, even with baseball, with

30:24

the steroids and you know, back in the nineties,

30:26

it's reporters that have to

30:29

break this news. The leagues don't

30:31

want to take down their biggest you

30:33

know guys, So I agree with

30:35

you in that respect.

30:36

Okay, so I'll say this. I think

30:38

this isn't much bigger conversation because

30:41

I feel like now with the

30:43

Gamiley, this has put a target

30:45

on coaching backs and on players

30:47

backs dangerous and unhealthy.

30:51

And I'm not even.

30:51

Talking about guys betting on themselves.

30:53

I'm talking about all of these prop bets. You know

30:56

how often I'm in games. I'm

30:58

at games and I am calling game,

31:00

and I can hear fans talking

31:02

to players about their prop bets. Ernie

31:04

Bickers, I mean JB. Bickerstaff getting death

31:07

from people for taking the Stars

31:09

out because they're up twenty

31:12

points and Donovan Mitchell needs to hit

31:14

one more three for this guy that went five thousand dollars.

31:16

Right, order cover

31:18

right, they don't take them out. I need you to cover

31:21

the spread.

31:21

Right.

31:22

We have to understand opening

31:24

that door and what demons you are letting

31:26

in upon opening that door, with the amount

31:28

of money that's involved.

31:30

No, there's no doubt, all right, Antonio,

31:32

great stuff, brother, Thank you appreciate

31:34

it.

31:34

I appreciate you guys.

31:35

All right, man, Rob, the fans

31:37

have made a decision on show Hey

31:40

O'tani, We'll tell you about

31:42

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All right, it is the Eye Couple.

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Chris Brussorr, Rob Parker live from

32:00

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32:03

and Rob Show.

32:05

HEO Tani here it is, Let's get right

32:08

to it.

32:10

The feds have concluded

32:12

Rob, after investigating the

32:15

situation surrounded show

32:17

hal Tani, that

32:20

he was not involved

32:22

in the scheme and that

32:24

instead he was a victim

32:26

of fraud. That's

32:28

what law enforcement sources with

32:31

direct knowledge of the case tell TMZ

32:34

Sports. They've been investigating

32:36

his translator, who was a

32:38

close friend, and they

32:40

say Rob that he Ipe

32:43

Musahara gambled away

32:45

millions of dollars, reportedly at

32:47

least four and a half million, and

32:50

after the story broke, he said Otani

32:53

had covered the debt. But the

32:55

sources say that the

32:57

fans have concluded that Otani

33:00

was completely in the dark, knew

33:02

nothing about the gambling. Debt and

33:04

that Musahara embezzled

33:07

from one of Otani's accounts without

33:10

his knowledge.

33:12

Oh, that would be good for Major League Baseball,

33:14

the Dodgers and Otani. If that report

33:16

is accurate. It's TMZ. They

33:20

get a lot of stuff right. They get some stuff

33:22

wrong, but they get a lot right, so

33:24

that if they feel confident to write that

33:28

there could be something. My only question I think

33:30

we both questioned, was

33:33

taking that kind of money out of his account

33:36

more than one time. It wasn't a one time,

33:38

you know what I mean, Chris, where he

33:40

took the four and a half million out and you didn't

33:42

know it. It was numerous withdrawals

33:47

from his account, which is what made me

33:49

suspicious about it.

33:52

Uh, this sounds crazy.

33:54

And and you you

33:57

you make a great point.

33:59

I don't know, Rob, I mean, this guy's got

34:01

so much money, is

34:03

it's it's it is possible

34:06

he wouldn't even miss a million. And I

34:08

hate to say that because obviously that's not the case.

34:11

But he's not the only one who monitors

34:13

his account. You know, he has an accountant,

34:15

he has an agent. He's with c

34:17

AA.

34:18

Maybe maybe do you know what I mean?

34:19

Like I'm just yeah, but that doesn't.

34:21

Mean they're all have access to your accounts

34:23

like that. Maybe Musahad had

34:26

access maybe, you know,

34:28

I mean that was not only his translators,

34:30

his good friend confidant.

34:34

You might be right.

34:35

I'm saying that that was the only thing that I

34:37

thought, like if it was a one time he

34:39

went in took the money and you didn't know, you know

34:42

what I mean.

34:43

It just seemed like there were there were multiple

34:45

deductions.

34:46

But then again, you might be right. Maybe he didn't

34:48

miss five or seven hundred thousand

34:50

at a time. I always thought that

34:52

you would get uh,

34:55

you would get Yeah, you learn.

34:57

From the man.

34:58

I get alerts when there's like when it's a certain

35:00

amount of money, right, it don't take that much

35:02

to get to for me, if it's

35:05

over thirty five dollars, you know, I

35:07

get an alert and I'm like, well, I'm

35:09

trying to get Wi

35:11

Fi and the diet coke on the flight to

35:13

Newark, you know.

35:15

You know, I mean sometimes Rob, I

35:18

mean, look, we all know that you can

35:20

be hacked. I

35:23

don't you make a good point. It's still

35:25

but the fans did investigate.

35:28

No I'm not I'm not be a little more.

35:30

I'd be more skeptical, not that there's

35:33

couldn't be a little skepticism in this situation,

35:35

but I would be more skeptical Rob

35:38

if this was an MLB investigation,

35:41

you know, Major League Baseball investigated and found

35:44

out Oh yes, you got.

35:45

To remember, like all of these things, all of

35:47

these things normally Chris are

35:50

like Balco that was a federal investing,

35:53

same thing, you know what I mean, like like those

35:55

are the ones that usually uncover this stuff

35:58

and.

35:58

Not journalists or the fight. He's

36:00

not gonna be the Sun, not

36:02

gonna be a team, you know, the league.

36:04

I mean when when does that happen? I

36:07

mean, you know, like in the NBA, Rob,

36:09

I've never seen.

36:10

Like a star.

36:13

Get get you know, failure

36:15

drug test like you know, be suspended six

36:18

games for p d

36:20

S or it's always these random you

36:22

know, kind of role put randoms

36:25

as as Cam you might call them.

36:29

So yeah, but look, Rob,

36:32

ultimately you hate that a crime

36:34

like this took place.

36:36

But if this is true,

36:38

I'm happy about it.

36:40

Yeah, and

36:42

show he put himself out there.

36:44

Chris when he had the press conference, said

36:46

he never bet on anything. Forget

36:48

about baseball. He said

36:50

it right, He never bet on anything.

36:53

He's not into gambling. It's

36:55

not a part of who he is. And

36:58

and I always said, like when you pay yourself

37:00

in the corner, if something turns up and your name

37:02

is on it, you know what I mean, then everything

37:05

on gravels, right, Rob.

37:06

Gie's got some extra news.

37:08

We got more coming down as you guys are speaking.

37:10

According to The New York Times exclusively, Otani's

37:14

former interpreter, i Misuhara is

37:16

in negotiations to plead guilty in

37:18

connection with the reported theft of his money,

37:21

and Otani was interviewing

37:23

and working alongside FEDS as

37:25

part of the investigation.

37:27

Okay, now let me. I'm just gonna play Devil's

37:29

advocate. I

37:32

don't I'm just yeah, could

37:35

he Could he be the fall guy? Like

37:38

full Tani? Could he be the fall.

37:40

Chris Carter said, you better get one right?

37:42

No, right, the fat

37:45

lea. But do you know what I mean? Chris?

37:47

Like, No, I mean, look, you know how

37:49

much I like Otani. I'm knowing.

37:50

I'm not saying. I'm not saying he again, Yeah,

37:53

I'm not.

37:53

No, You're right, Like it's possible, Sure,

37:57

I mean Otani, it

37:59

is possible.

38:00

Rob, There's no. I mean, that's all I'm saying

38:03

that I believe the report.

38:06

I want to believe the report.

38:08

I'm with you.

38:08

I'm just saying that the devil

38:10

I would because it happens where somebody

38:13

will take the fall because they Rob.

38:15

Absolutely, you wouldn't.

38:17

We wouldn't be being honest if

38:19

that wasn't at least a possibility

38:23

because I don't know what, you know, what

38:25

type of time he may do. It

38:28

may be a you know, minimum

38:30

security type place. And

38:32

then Rob is like, when you get out, bro, you

38:36

ain't. You ain't gonna have to have another care in

38:38

the world because you're gonna be taken care of.

38:40

Keep it like like a a couple.