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We've got Sean Marrion Merriman.
1:03
I'm sorry Merriman, Rob
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coming up at the bottom of the hour. And when
1:08
lights out is on the show, you know
1:10
what that means. There must be some extreme
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fighting going on or getting
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ready.
1:15
To go on.
1:16
Don't break my ribs. I'm just saying,
1:18
Sean, that's all. Don't break my ribs.
1:20
Oh Man, so we will have him on
1:23
to talk fighting football and
1:25
all of that, So that'll be good.
1:28
Rob.
1:29
The Miami Heat up
1:32
eighty five seventy nine early
1:34
in the fourth, My goodness.
1:38
I mean there's two stories here. One
1:41
is just the continuation of Heat
1:43
culture. And you know they
1:46
can't get over the hump and win it, Rob,
1:49
But man, you gotta give them boys their
1:51
respect because they get
1:53
they get all of it
1:55
all. Is that the blood out of the tournaiment.
1:58
I don't know if that's the saying, but
2:01
they get every ounce of
2:03
their ability out of their players. And
2:06
then Boston, Rob, I mean, look,
2:09
I think they're still gonna win the series, but they're
2:12
at home. Ron, I
2:14
mean, you shouldn't be having this much trouble with
2:16
the A seed that does not
2:19
have its best player.
2:21
That's the part, and that's why you
2:24
can't come out, Chris and expect
2:27
that people are gonna roll over. These are NBA
2:29
players. They're playing for something
2:32
that they don't. You
2:34
know, you don't go, oh, well, we can't play
2:36
because Jimmy Butler's not playing up right, what
2:39
does that have to do with me?
2:40
What I got minutes? I got a
2:42
chance to make some shots.
2:44
Right, that's the thing, Rob, you like,
2:47
of course, guys love Butler and want him
2:49
to be there. But also,
2:52
I mean you're looking at it like, Okay, this is
2:54
my opportunity. I'm going
2:56
to get more shots tonight. I
2:58
can put up twenty five on National
3:01
TV. I'm bringing it tonight. And
3:04
that's what they're doing so far.
3:06
And you never know, Chris, other people are
3:08
watching, you know what I mean? You just yeah,
3:10
you don't even know. Oh my, look at this kid
3:13
on a big stage or whatever. All of a sudden,
3:15
I'm interested in.
3:16
Him, no doubt.
3:17
All right, Rob, Well, let's
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talk about a story
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and your your your former nephew,
3:26
however that happens.
3:27
But former nephew Vinny.
3:29
Good nephew, that's right, like my
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ex wife ex related to my ex
3:33
wife.
3:33
He's my ex nephew, Vinny Goodwill. That's
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ok. I still love him anyway,
3:38
but he's still my ex nephew.
3:39
Okay. Friend of the show, yes, he's doing
3:41
all the time.
3:42
But he wrote a good column on Yahoo Rob about
3:45
kind of how these playoffs are
3:48
really could showcase.
3:50
The changing of the guard.
3:51
And look at this, Rob, Steph
3:53
and the Golden State Crew, Dramond
3:56
Clay Chris Paul, they're
3:58
already out good,
4:01
Okay, Lebron
4:04
and Ad Now Ad isn't in that older
4:06
guard, but he's kind of, I guess, more in the middle.
4:09
But Lebron could be out
4:12
at the end of the first round. Good Kevin
4:14
Durant could be out
4:17
good the end of the first round. And
4:20
this is a possibility, even though we both
4:22
had picked against it. Kawhi
4:25
Harden Westbrook and
4:27
Paul George could be out at
4:29
the end of the first round. Joannis
4:33
n mb now again Rob they are
4:35
kind of in that middle group, but they
4:38
could be out.
4:38
But Dame is definitely all guard.
4:41
He could be.
4:42
Out and Rob after
4:44
the first round of the playoffs.
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These could be the big names.
4:49
Anthony Edwards, Carl
4:51
Anthony Towns, Shay gil
4:54
Just Alexander Check, Holmgren
4:57
or if I don't think New Orleans gonna
4:59
beat them, but Brandon Ingram and they're
5:01
talking like Zion might make
5:03
an appearance. Donovan Mitchell
5:05
Now he's again maybe in that middle guard
5:08
obviously, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown,
5:11
Jalen Brunson, Tyres
5:14
Halliburton, Luka, Doncic of
5:16
course, Kyrie again more
5:18
of a middle ground guy. And then
5:20
of course Rob Nicole Jokic
5:23
and Jamal Murray and Rob
5:26
we are we could be and I think we
5:29
will. It's clearly leaning
5:32
that way outside of the Clippers,
5:34
but we could definitely, Rob be
5:36
looking at the changing
5:39
of the NBA guard right before
5:42
our eyes. And you cannot say,
5:45
all, well, last year Denver won it, right,
5:47
it was already no because
5:49
Rob who they beating the conference finals, the
5:51
Lakers.
5:52
With Lebron.
5:55
The Lakers beat Yeah, the Lakers beat Steph
5:58
So like you had the big names
6:01
still alive. And Jimmy
6:03
Butler if you want to consider him
6:05
a big name from kind of the old guard.
6:07
He was in the finals against Denver. And
6:11
so Rob we this
6:13
could be the year that
6:15
we see it.
6:16
Do you like it? Do you think it's good
6:18
for the league? How do you think? Fans
6:21
respond?
6:23
I think it's good. I think there comes a
6:25
time where it's
6:28
time to have new players. I
6:30
know people just hate to, you
6:33
know, see different things happening. Oh my god,
6:35
I can't believe we're watching playoffs. But Chris,
6:37
some of the games have been good so far. The playoffs.
6:40
We got new stars. It's good to talk about
6:42
some different people. It's one thing when somebody's
6:45
around for a long time. They've been around for a long
6:47
time, that's been a conversation, and
6:49
they've had their days in this sudden like nobody you
6:51
haven't seen them win.
6:53
It's good to have some fresh blood.
6:55
And these are some some fun,
6:58
exciting new players.
7:00
So I'm going to embrace the new. I'm
7:02
good with it.
7:03
I mean, I
7:08
know the league and probably the TV people,
7:10
Chris aren't that happy with it. Nobody
7:12
wants Steph out, Nobody wants
7:15
Lebron and the Lakers out that quickly. It's
7:17
a big television market. You don't
7:19
want Los Angeles, Chris.
7:21
You don't want San Francisco, right.
7:24
Well, that's a whole nother thing.
7:26
In the markets, yeah, yeah, you're looking
7:28
at Denver, Minnesota,
7:31
Minneapolis.
7:32
Those are smaller, way smaller market.
7:34
Yeah, Indianapolis, Milwaukee,
7:37
if they're alive, Dallas.
7:42
Yeah, I mean New York. You know New
7:44
York could make a deep run. Now New York.
7:47
That will help Chris because people are starved
7:49
there and they so they're
7:51
they're gonna watch in droves. If you're in New
7:53
Yorkhoma City, Oklahoma City,
7:55
a small market.
7:56
Yeah, I look, I
8:00
think it's good because
8:02
this is the future and
8:04
John Moran will be in there, assuming he's
8:06
you know, got.
8:07
To know, man, I just can't get over how when
8:09
he's second secondary the second
8:12
thought.
8:13
Yeah it's but I think, you know again,
8:15
as long as he takes care of himself off the court,
8:17
he'll be that.
8:18
He'll be back.
8:20
Anthony Edwards obviously the
8:22
most exciting of the young batch. But
8:24
Rob, I think it's good because these
8:27
the fans need to get used to these
8:29
guys, right because these are the
8:31
guys that are gonna be the faces of the
8:33
league going forward. I
8:36
think right now though one
8:39
and and look, I used
8:41
to think the face of the league couldn't be an international
8:43
player. I don't think that anymore. But
8:46
you still is it still maybe
8:48
a slight obstacle with the fans. I don't
8:50
know, maybe, but a lot of these guys are
8:52
international. And to Rob,
8:56
I think Luca will show
8:58
his personality over time, Yoki,
9:01
Rob, you seeing the commercials starting to show
9:03
a little bit. You know, he's
9:05
a kind of a you know, quiet,
9:09
you know, understated guy, but he's
9:11
still likable.
9:13
But really, out of all these guys.
9:15
I mean, only Anthony Edwards
9:17
to date, Rob looks
9:20
like you know, has shown and
9:22
showcased that charisma that
9:25
where it's like, oh, we not only love his
9:27
game, but his style, his
9:30
personality, his smile,
9:32
we love his competitiveness,
9:35
talking trash like we love it.
9:38
Now they are trying with some
9:40
of the young guys, Rob, You've seen SGA
9:43
and Chuck Holgren in the commercial,
9:45
Jason Tatum in some commercials.
9:48
As I mentioned, jokis getting a little So
9:51
they're trying. But Rob, G, I
9:53
want to bring you in because you have
9:55
a take. You don't think
9:57
this is good for the league?
9:59
Right?
10:00
No, I don't, and
10:02
not that change isn't good or that I'm not
10:04
embracing the new era because you.
10:06
Rob, I'm shocked, you young guy,
10:10
this is just be a hot take artist
10:13
that make makes some headlines or
10:15
or if he really you know, ain't I
10:18
think.
10:18
And again, we've seen this already happen,
10:21
like we've seen the Shaq
10:23
Kobe Duncan Garnett era fizzle
10:25
out. Right, So that's this is not unusual.
10:28
What is different to men,
10:31
right, But what is different to me about
10:33
this current situation that we have
10:35
going on is that it seems to
10:37
be happening very abruptly. It's
10:40
not like there's a transition period
10:42
where you know, the Lakers fought
10:44
really hard with Lebron James and ultimately they
10:47
just get washed out.
10:47
No, they got swept last year.
10:49
Steph Curry has missed the playoffs two of the
10:51
last three seasons. Kevin Durant since
10:53
he's left Golden State, has been an afterthought.
10:55
So this old guard of the greatest
10:58
players of that generation being
11:01
basically unceremoniously dumped to the
11:03
side without ever really
11:05
having that last gasp that you look for.
11:08
It's kind of tough. And I don't think that NBA fans
11:12
right now especially are
11:14
going to be embracing this young
11:16
group of players the way that they
11:18
should, because they're still holding on to that nostalgia.
11:21
There's a reason why when you look at the
11:23
NBA TV ratings, the top two
11:25
teams every year the last three or four years
11:27
especially have been Lebron's Lakers
11:29
and steps Warriors. And if both of
11:31
them are out by before
11:34
May first, that's not good for the
11:36
league.
11:37
But if you have new places like New York,
11:39
you don't count that.
11:40
Like like no, and I
11:42
like it, I like watching your I like Jalen Brunton,
11:44
but Jalen Brunson is not the kind of guy who's gonna bring in
11:46
new fans, not when he's shooting
11:48
the sixteen for fifty five in the first two
11:51
games.
11:51
Here's why I'll push back a little
11:54
because there is some validity to what
11:56
you're saying. The only
11:58
thing I pushed back or is like
12:02
the notion that it's abrupt.
12:05
It's not abrupt. I mean, Steph
12:08
won a championship a couple of years ago. And
12:12
here's the other thing. Like
12:14
I said, Lebron, they were in the conference finals
12:17
last year. They got swept, but they were in
12:19
the conference finals. But also
12:21
rob g they're playing
12:24
longer. They
12:26
should have been gone. I
12:28
mean really, like the reason it
12:30
might feel abrupt to you is
12:32
because Lebron James at thirty nine
12:35
is still playing great.
12:37
We'll talk.
12:37
He should have been gone.
12:39
Steph should have been gone at thirty
12:41
five KD thirty five. Like
12:44
that's the thing there. Isaiah Thomas
12:47
was gone. What was he robbed thirty two? Magic
12:50
early?
12:50
Now we know Magic's was was different,
12:52
but still.
12:56
Remember Isaiah towards Achilles.
12:58
Yep, yep, early thirties, Bird
13:01
early to mid thirties. Like that's
13:04
the thing.
13:05
This era of lebron
13:07
KD and Steph has lasted longer.
13:10
Rob G.
13:10
Yeah, really, that's totally fair. And I
13:13
think the reason why to me
13:15
it feels abrupt is because that next
13:17
wave of players, only
13:20
Jason Tatum has had any real postseason
13:22
success, and he's never become
13:25
that crossover star that you would expect.
13:27
I know, he has the commercials, the ruffles
13:29
and all these different things, but he does
13:31
not translate on a national
13:33
scale the way a guy of his caliber
13:35
should, or a team that team should. Nikola
13:38
Jokic is by far
13:40
the best player in the NBA right now, and
13:43
his Q rating outside of sports fans
13:45
is like two, right, you know what I mean?
13:47
Like Luca Luka.
13:50
Doncic could be that guy,
13:52
but he again has had
13:54
the first round once in his career. Giannis
13:58
probably has the best crossover ap to
14:00
your point, they might get bounce out of the first round anyways.
14:03
So well, there's there's no logical
14:05
guy that's gonna step in and say
14:07
I'm gonna be the the face
14:10
of this league for at least temporarily
14:12
in the playoffs. That's gonna get
14:14
people that Watchward.
14:18
Well, he is a guy in Minnesota.
14:21
Yeah, I will see it's Anthony Edwards,
14:24
I mean because his game and
14:27
now I also think the
14:30
clear future in my view,
14:32
tell me if you guys disagree, the
14:34
clear future of the league is winm bin
14:36
Yama. He is
14:39
going to be the face of the league. He's
14:41
going to own the league and
14:43
that's going to and like Jokic is
14:45
owning it right now.
14:47
And I think Wimby,
14:50
I don't know.
14:51
It's it's gonna be a good test
14:53
because we've seen the best
14:55
players in the league, the absolute best,
14:57
become international guys, right but
15:01
the Lebrons and the Steps
15:04
and the kds were still
15:06
there. The international
15:09
players have become the best, but
15:11
they are the American the great
15:13
old guard. American players are still
15:15
the faces of the league.
15:18
So now once they're gone, will
15:21
you know what happens when the
15:24
absolute best players are international
15:26
now again, Jah and Anthony
15:28
Edwards they need to carry the torch for America.
15:31
And Jason Tatum if he can step
15:33
up and you know, take that next step.
15:37
But because Wemby, you know, we'll
15:39
see it'll be a.
15:39
Good a lot of things happening
15:42
and a lot of things you'll be looking
15:45
for to see. You know, how
15:47
the popularity of the league is when
15:49
all the best players or most
15:52
of the absolute best players are international
15:54
because there is just a cultural difference, you
15:57
know, Yokad just just I mean,
15:59
he's in a different country. I
16:01
don't know how colorful
16:04
I'd be in a second language
16:06
in some culture that I'm never, you
16:09
know, not really used to.
16:12
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16:14
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16:16
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On Fox.
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There's a changing of the guard underweigh
19:04
in the NBA. Do you like it, love
19:07
it or hate it?
19:08
Your thoughts?
19:09
All right, let's kick it off with Will
19:12
in Mississippi. You're on the EYD couple Fox
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Sports Radio.
19:15
What's up?
19:16
Will?
19:17
What's up? Christa?
19:18
Rob?
19:18
How y'all doing?
19:18
Man?
19:19
Good man?
19:20
How are you pretty good? Pretty good?
19:22
But you know my comment on the topic
19:25
of y'all talking about is I just
19:27
wonder like myself. First, I can't speak for everybody,
19:29
but I'm ready for the changing of the guard, but
19:31
it seems like sports media, maybe television
19:34
and things are like not really ready for it.
19:36
Like if you think about like watching First Take
19:38
or Undisputed or Colin Cowherd.
19:40
Whoever you watch through out the day, the people
19:42
that get the airtime is the Lakers. They still talk
19:44
about Golden State.
19:45
And I mean you think about the last three years,
19:47
three to four years, like the Lakers
19:49
are scraping trying to get into the play in and the
19:51
Golden State like doing the same thing. And then
19:53
you got these these teams like, ok see the
19:56
Milwaukee's the New York now,
19:58
you know, like these guys that are like number one, two,
20:00
three in the Eastern wis like not really
20:03
getting much media company. So it's like, are y'all really
20:05
ready to accept that's
20:07
a.
20:07
Good that's a good call. I mean, let's
20:11
go ahead rhy.
20:11
Sorry, No, I'm just saying, you know, Chris
20:14
and the business that we're in, a lot of times
20:16
they want to play the hits, yep, And
20:18
that's the problem, and we can I'll
20:20
give you a perfect example.
20:22
Almost nobody talked about Denver last
20:24
year.
20:24
Chris.
20:25
I mean you on TV every day.
20:27
Like how much did Denver get not in the postseason
20:30
once they got there.
20:31
But during that season last year.
20:33
Not much I had to talk about them, am I right?
20:35
But I think and that's what we're talking
20:37
about.
20:38
Look, the NBA rose to popularity
20:41
based on personalities, Rob and individuals,
20:44
all right, Bird and Magic, Michael,
20:46
Jordan, Kobe and Shaq. And
20:49
this generation that's about
20:51
to end has had that.
20:53
You had Lebron James, who's in.
20:55
The Gold Conversation and was a
20:57
child, you know, a junior team prodigy.
21:00
You had Steph Curry, who literally changed
21:02
the game the way it's played.
21:05
And you had Kobe.
21:07
Before that, who was you know, just a
21:09
charismatic player and personality.
21:12
Of course, Jordan before that. Who's going
21:14
to be that guy? Now?
21:16
I think it's gonna be Wimby, But
21:19
until he comes of age,
21:21
who's gonna be the guy? Jokic is awesome,
21:24
but there's a little Tim Duncan quality
21:26
to it. I think he's actually much more
21:28
fun to watch, and even
21:31
strangely, I feel like
21:35
a more compelling personality, not
21:37
strangely, but more compelling personality
21:40
than Duncan.
21:42
But he's not Lebron or Steph.
21:44
No.
21:45
All right, let's squeeze in one more Chris,
21:48
let's talk to Marty
21:50
in Kentucky.
21:51
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up,
21:53
Marty?
21:56
What's up?
21:57
Man? Man?
21:58
Yes, we're good, brother.
22:00
Yeah, you know, I say, let it
22:02
flow. You know, it's it's
22:05
the natural changing of the guard. And
22:07
there's some really special stars,
22:10
Sgat. You got
22:13
Edwards out there, man, he's stud You got
22:15
some really entertaining guys. And you know, Joker
22:17
right now is doing things that are just unheard
22:19
of and he's making it look easy. And
22:22
then what's going on in college basketball?
22:24
You mentioned what really skyrocketed
22:26
d NBA's popularity was the Bird and Magic
22:29
rivalry. Where did that start? That started in college
22:31
basketball? And I believe what's going on in
22:33
college right now, especially with the
22:35
news today that highs and getting rerewarded,
22:38
everything's changing. It's gonna it's
22:40
just gonna blow up the money.
22:42
He's gonna get bigger and bigger, and players
22:45
are gonna stay in college basketball, and that's
22:47
gonna get people to invest into
22:49
those players. When they go to the NBA,
22:51
they're gonna want to watch them.
22:52
So I think that they just let this thing
22:54
to go and let it flow.
22:56
It's gonna turn out all.
22:57
Right, that'll
23:00
be interesting, it will, you know, because
23:02
look, I mean the NBA is fun
23:04
too. I mean the lifestyle, right, and you don't have to
23:06
go to class. But Rob, we know college
23:09
is fun.
23:09
And if I'm getting paid millions to stay there, you
23:12
know, I mean, I'm at that
23:14
age, see it.
23:14
I think all the stars, I don't think all the
23:16
time.
23:16
No, I mean NBA is fun too, So that's what I'm
23:18
saying. But I don't know.
23:21
We'll see, We'll see if it makes guys. Stay
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Our next guest former NFL
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of Lights Out Extreme Fighting.
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He is here promoting Lights
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Out sixteen. That's this Saturday,
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May eighth, or not this Saturday, but it's Saturday
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May eighteenth in Long Beach,
24:01
California. And I always say, well, he's
24:03
a friend of the show, but when
24:05
he's on this show, that means
24:07
somebody's about to get beat up. So that's
24:10
right, man, Sean Mary, what's
24:12
up, man, how you doing?
24:14
Tell us about lights Out sixteen.
24:17
Yeoh, what's up, fellas.
24:18
Yeah, we got a huge event in Long
24:20
Beach, California, May eighteenth.
24:22
You know, you can get your tickets at lights outexcept dot
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But this one was different.
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Man. I'm actually launching my
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It works with Fox Sports some of the bigger ones, man.
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So it's this.
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Is a it's it's a milestone for me,
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man, that get an opportunity to launch something like this that's
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25:01
something special. So lights Out Exchange Fight would
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be live on lights Out Sports May eighteenth
25:05
and Long Beast, California.
25:08
That's great, that's great, man, congratulations
25:10
on that, and let's stick with
25:12
with fighting a little bit.
25:15
We saw.
25:16
I was shocked at
25:18
what took place on Saturday, and that was
25:20
Ryan Garcia, who seemed to be and
25:23
this ain't even a figure speech out
25:25
of his mind before
25:28
he took on Devin Haney and
25:30
he knocked Hane down three times
25:32
and won the fight by decision.
25:35
But were you how surprised were
25:37
you? And do you think that
25:39
all the antics he did off
25:41
the you know, out of the ring, do
25:44
you think that was a
25:46
show and that he was trying to get Haney
25:48
off his game mentally or
25:51
do you think he just is going
25:53
through some things, had some issues, but
25:55
he was able to make it work for him
25:57
in the ring.
25:58
I think what Ryan did, to be honest, man,
26:01
I think it needs to be studyed like
26:03
it needs to be studied. I know Ryan since
26:05
he was sixteen seventeen years old. I used to go to
26:07
the gym and watch them, but everybody was to tell me about him
26:09
and I will sit around and just watch his kid and
26:12
him its colors. I know him personally, and even
26:15
I got to a certain point where I was gonna text
26:17
him and reach out and say, dude, are you Okay, right,
26:19
if you need you know what I'm saying, you need somebody let us
26:22
know, because look, we all deal with stuff,
26:24
we go through it. What he did
26:26
going up to that fight, he sold the fight.
26:29
People watch that Devin Hainey fight
26:31
because of Ryan Garcia. I got nothing.
26:33
I know.
26:33
I know Devin, you know, I
26:35
know know his family knows folks. But
26:37
people watch that fight because of Ryan
26:39
Garcia. And when he did to sell that fight
26:42
needs to be studying.
26:44
Yeah, I mean everybody, everybody
26:46
was worried for him because it was just so
26:49
erratic and it just seemed so crazy.
26:51
But I guess it worked.
26:54
Reggie Bush got his Heisman trophy
26:57
back, and we were talking about this, Sean,
26:59
I'm I'm putting out a challenge
27:01
to all former athletes who
27:03
have podcasts and platforms,
27:06
and I want them to come clean and
27:08
cleanse themselves now that apparently,
27:10
if this stuff
27:13
is known, you're not going to be heard or
27:15
taken out of a Hall of fame or taking.
27:17
Your trophies away.
27:19
About money and stuff
27:21
that went on in college and did you get paid
27:23
off?
27:23
How much did you get Why are we letting
27:25
the.
27:25
Institutions, the college presidents and the
27:27
coaches get off Scott free.
27:30
I want people to expose it all.
27:32
I want to hear it all. Are you interested in hearing
27:35
that?
27:35
Yeah, I'm not going to incriminate myself, but
27:38
I'll tell you this.
27:39
See there you go.
27:40
Hey, Sean, I'll just wait before you say that.
27:42
Sean, did you get money when you were in college?
27:47
Physical physical money? No, but
27:50
currency for sure. I think
27:52
that.
27:54
You know, everybody got a joke about the brown paper
27:56
bag right meeting around the corner by the trash in
27:58
the back alley with the brown paper bag. I
28:00
think that's the ongoing joke. But you
28:03
know what was done to Reggie was
28:05
it was almost like an example to hang them out to drive
28:08
and they had nothing to do with happened. It was a pride
28:10
issue by the NC doublop by it.
28:12
It was a pride issue, right.
28:13
It was like, we knew this not a big deal,
28:16
but you're not going to force us
28:18
to change our opinion and we have
28:20
the upper hand. I think that they eventually
28:23
caved in from the pressure. I mean guys like Johnny
28:25
mindel Camp coming out and saying, hey, I'm
28:27
not coming to anything with involved in the Heisman
28:30
Trophy and then they knew see one
28:32
thing in this day and age, when one person say
28:34
something, the next person say something, the next
28:36
five, next ten, the next fifteen. They
28:38
saw it coming. They saw it coming. That
28:41
guy's going to start to rebel. Not
28:43
want anything to do it until Reggie Bush got
28:46
his.
28:47
His heisman back.
28:48
And I tell people all the time, the powers of the people,
28:50
right and everything, the powers and the people.
28:53
If all those guys that group together said we're
28:55
not coming to that, heids mouths, We're not doing
28:57
any media, We're not doing any part of it until Reggie
28:59
gets this high. He would have got it back years
29:01
ago. And it's a shame that took this long. But you
29:04
know, being a coach, runch REGI man, I'm so happy for
29:06
him and my team. Reggie was the
29:08
most exciting college football player ever.
29:10
And and I'm not just saying that. And I was a
29:12
big fan of Barry Sanders and you know
29:14
herschel Walker some of my favorite I think I
29:17
think the Reggie Bush was the most exciting
29:20
college football player ever, and he as well
29:22
deserved.
29:22
You got it back, hey, he said,
29:24
if people would have banded together,
29:27
NFL players won't even get together to get better
29:30
healthcare.
29:30
And pensions.
29:32
Uh, why in the world were
29:34
you think they're going to do that for over a trophy.
29:37
Well, that's that's the problem. I think that's that's the
29:39
number one thing. And when you're talking
29:42
about these holdouts and everything else with the NFL,
29:44
I mean, like I said, the powers in the
29:46
people in groups. Yes, and once
29:48
you once you realize that you can't move
29:50
forward without the group, then the real decisions
29:53
have to be made so that that you
29:55
know, if this has shown anybody anything,
29:58
is that you band together, and you come together
30:00
and to put to put some pressure on people,
30:02
you get things done.
30:03
Sean, Obviously we got the NFL draft
30:06
coming up. You were the twelfth pick in
30:08
the two thousand and five draft out
30:11
of Maryland. What is that week
30:13
or even maybe weeks like before
30:16
the draft. I
30:18
imagine it's one of the best best
30:21
times of your life. Just take us through
30:23
what these guys are experiencing right
30:25
now.
30:26
Well, I think the biggest thing is you've
30:28
done the biggest part already and that's half
30:30
film, right you got you.
30:31
Got the film.
30:32
I don't care what their pro what the combind
30:35
look like with your pro day looks like number one, you got
30:37
filmed the second part is you go through
30:39
the combine, you go through your pro DA's Now it's time
30:41
to chill, right, just listen for your am to
30:43
be called. The most nerve
30:46
wrecking thing in the situation is when
30:48
you go on these digits, all these teams, they all tell
30:50
you they want you. Hey, if you're gonna be here,
30:52
I'm gonna draft you. I remember meeting with Jerry Jones,
30:54
Bill Parcells, We're gonna draft you. I remember
30:56
meeting when Steve Marry you to Detroit.
30:59
We're gonna draft you. Remember a meeting with the
31:01
then Redskins, We're gonna draft you. So
31:04
the uncertainty was there, but I
31:06
knew that I was going somewhere between the third pick to
31:08
Cleveland to.
31:09
The fifteenth pick.
31:10
I think Houston or whoever had that had that
31:12
year. But for the most part, got it is for your
31:14
friends, your family, your coaches, everybody a
31:16
part of that journey.
31:18
And when your.
31:18
Name get called, man, just sit back and just accept
31:21
it, take it in and then get back to work. That's that's
31:23
the biggest thing, mane Just get to work. When
31:25
it's high.
31:27
What advice would you give what,
31:30
regardless of position, But what do you like these
31:33
college players need to know
31:36
is different. The biggest difference between
31:38
the NFL and even
31:40
big time Division one college football.
31:43
You gotta you gotta go in and
31:45
drop your pride, your ego at the door when you
31:47
walk in.
31:48
That's that's the biggest thing.
31:49
I don't care what you did in college, what your accolades
31:52
are, you haven't done anything on that level.
31:54
And you'll find out very quickly that
31:56
you're that this game is different, not just the speed
31:59
and everything else. You talking about gods just ten plus
32:01
years in, who got families?
32:03
Who you know?
32:04
It's just a maturity levels you got to bring to
32:06
the locker room and you got to drop your pride and you
32:08
go out to do it because you rub the wrong people
32:10
the wrong way. Man, it just creates this stigma.
32:13
So but I tell you, guys, man, don't you know, get
32:15
get with the older Get put the older guys you know at
32:17
your position or the older vet. Hey, what time
32:19
are you gonna work out? What time are you watching film? Get
32:22
with them you, I mean to the him to the point where they
32:24
you annoyed them when they tell you they little
32:27
guy, leave me alone. Get with the older guys
32:29
as fast as you can because they gonna show you the ropes
32:31
and speed up your process.
32:33
All right, that's our man. Sean Merriman.
32:36
Check out lights Out sixteen
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32:54
Thanks Sean man, We appreciate you.
32:56
Appreciate it, guys. Thanks, I me on.
32:58
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33:53
the Miami Heat have done it again
33:55
and it is just one game, right,
33:58
we don't know if they'll win the series.
34:00
I'm still picking Boston, I imagine
34:02
you are as well, but.
34:05
Game right, right right, I'm not.
34:07
It is still impressive. They
34:10
they have stolen home court from the
34:12
Celtics. The
34:14
Celtics ran away with
34:17
the best record in the league by
34:19
far this year, won the
34:21
East by fourteen games. Miami
34:24
is the eighth seed. Miami
34:27
doesn't have his best player, Jimmy
34:29
Butler, and they go into
34:31
Boston and steal.
34:33
Home court advantage. Rob. Look,
34:37
I want to praise Miami.
34:38
I will as a credit to Eric
34:41
Spostra, who just proves
34:43
year after year he's a great coach. Honestly,
34:47
Look, they got great players, they got a great
34:49
culture. Obviously, pat Riley is
34:51
one of the best executives we've ever seen.
34:54
But if you get
34:57
the dude some.
34:58
Real like top
35:00
notch talent, Rob, they'd
35:03
be winning championships.
35:04
I would think, I
35:06
know, they get there, but they're under made.
35:08
They're not you know, they're just not nearly
35:10
as talented as some of these teams. So
35:12
it's a credit to him, Rob, but
35:15
it's also a discredit to the Celtics,
35:18
And.
35:18
I just like not being focused,
35:20
not being out there thinking that it's in the
35:23
bag. We talk about all the time. This
35:25
is why I say, Chris all the time about
35:28
four out of seven is the is the is
35:30
the neutralizer. It'll the best
35:32
team is gonna win. If you played some of
35:34
these games in a one game and I'm not saying
35:36
that the Celtiers would have lost for sure, but
35:38
you can get beat in one game, I
35:41
don't care how good you are and the other team
35:43
doesn't have their best player or or we've
35:46
seen it over and over, haven't.
35:47
We We've seen Oh yeah, no, no doubt,
35:50
no doubt.
35:51
But it's something I
35:54
don't know.
35:55
Look, I picked them to get to the finals
35:57
and I'm sticking with that, and I feel good about
35:59
that.
36:00
You should feel good about one game, Chris.
36:02
They're not gonna go all
36:04
year.
36:06
I have been.
36:08
There's something about the Celtics
36:10
that just I
36:13
can't give my all to them. I
36:16
can't give all my belief to them.
36:19
I don't.
36:20
Look, they are young, and
36:22
maybe they're just not ready yet.
36:24
But Rob, there's no excuse
36:27
for this, and we've seen
36:29
them.
36:29
Look, when it gets close, we know
36:31
they're not great in the clutch, and
36:35
their best players aren't particularly
36:37
JS, you know, Jason Tatum and Jaylen
36:40
Brown.
36:40
And those are with figures. That's not the feelings.
36:43
Those are stats to back that up.
36:45
And they're gonna be close games in the playoffs.
36:47
Again, Look, I think because the East
36:50
is just so messed up this year,
36:53
with Milwaukee missing Giannis and not
36:55
playing well itself, a Philly,
36:58
you know.
36:58
Mbads banged up.
37:00
They have a yellow brick roll to the
37:02
finals, but they're making it
37:04
hard and I don't
37:06
it feels like.
37:10
Right, It feels like it's
37:12
a lack of tough. This is why I said, Rob to
37:15
me, Missoula is on the hot seat.
37:18
You didn't take over a thirty seven win team.
37:20
They went to the finals before
37:24
you got there. And if they don't
37:26
get.
37:26
There this year, I'm not saying they have to win it.
37:29
You look and I don't think they're gonna lose this,
37:31
But it just Miami
37:34
is tough mentally
37:36
and physically. Is Boston
37:40
is Boston? They were under a dooka
37:43
Rob. We saw what they did to
37:45
Durant and Kyrie. We
37:48
saw how tough and physical they were.
37:51
Are they still that team?
37:56
Good question?
37:58
Are they a bunch of glamour? You know? Soft.
38:03
This postseason nets yeah,
38:06
this postseason will probably tell you.
38:10
But their questions to be answered, not just
38:12
the one loss. We don't want to overreact, Chris,
38:14
because that might be Miami. That might be the only game
38:17
they win. It happens sometimes,
38:19
but it talks about the focus.
38:21
Don't play more games than you have to, Chris
38:23
in the postseason, right, don't play more
38:25
games than you have to.
38:26
And Miami's under man
38:28
and they don't have this start.
38:30
It's not like you up two to zero and you lost game
38:32
three. Nobody would you
38:34
know. I wouldn't be that big of a deal. You lost
38:36
home court. And again I think they'll win it because there's
38:38
so much more talented, but
38:41
you know, maybe.
38:43
Better toughen up, toughen
38:45
up.
38:46
All right, this is the couple Chris a Rod were about
38:48
to sign off, but keep it locked. Jason
38:50
Smith and Mike Harmon next, and they
38:52
bring fire, straight fire,
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