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Hour 3 - A Changing of the Guard in the NBA + Former NFL All-Pro Shawne Merriman

Hour 3 - A Changing of the Guard in the NBA + Former NFL All-Pro Shawne Merriman

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We've got Sean Marrion Merriman.

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I'm sorry Merriman, Rob

1:05

coming up at the bottom of the hour. And when

1:08

lights out is on the show, you know

1:10

what that means. There must be some extreme

1:13

fighting going on or getting

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ready.

1:15

To go on.

1:16

Don't break my ribs. I'm just saying,

1:18

Sean, that's all. Don't break my ribs.

1:20

Oh Man, so we will have him on

1:23

to talk fighting football and

1:25

all of that, So that'll be good.

1:28

Rob.

1:29

The Miami Heat up

1:32

eighty five seventy nine early

1:34

in the fourth, My goodness.

1:38

I mean there's two stories here. One

1:41

is just the continuation of Heat

1:43

culture. And you know they

1:46

can't get over the hump and win it, Rob,

1:49

But man, you gotta give them boys their

1:51

respect because they get

1:53

they get all of it

1:55

all. Is that the blood out of the tournaiment.

1:58

I don't know if that's the saying, but

2:01

they get every ounce of

2:03

their ability out of their players. And

2:06

then Boston, Rob, I mean, look,

2:09

I think they're still gonna win the series, but they're

2:12

at home. Ron, I

2:14

mean, you shouldn't be having this much trouble with

2:16

the A seed that does not

2:19

have its best player.

2:21

That's the part, and that's why you

2:24

can't come out, Chris and expect

2:27

that people are gonna roll over. These are NBA

2:29

players. They're playing for something

2:32

that they don't. You

2:34

know, you don't go, oh, well, we can't play

2:36

because Jimmy Butler's not playing up right, what

2:39

does that have to do with me?

2:40

What I got minutes? I got a

2:42

chance to make some shots.

2:44

Right, that's the thing, Rob, you like,

2:47

of course, guys love Butler and want him

2:49

to be there. But also,

2:52

I mean you're looking at it like, Okay, this is

2:54

my opportunity. I'm going

2:56

to get more shots tonight. I

2:58

can put up twenty five on National

3:01

TV. I'm bringing it tonight. And

3:04

that's what they're doing so far.

3:06

And you never know, Chris, other people are

3:08

watching, you know what I mean? You just yeah,

3:10

you don't even know. Oh my, look at this kid

3:13

on a big stage or whatever. All of a sudden,

3:15

I'm interested in.

3:16

Him, no doubt.

3:17

All right, Rob, Well, let's

3:20

talk about a story

3:22

and your your your former nephew,

3:26

however that happens.

3:27

But former nephew Vinny.

3:29

Good nephew, that's right, like my

3:31

ex wife ex related to my ex

3:33

wife.

3:33

He's my ex nephew, Vinny Goodwill. That's

3:36

ok. I still love him anyway,

3:38

but he's still my ex nephew.

3:39

Okay. Friend of the show, yes, he's doing

3:41

all the time.

3:42

But he wrote a good column on Yahoo Rob about

3:45

kind of how these playoffs are

3:48

really could showcase.

3:50

The changing of the guard.

3:51

And look at this, Rob, Steph

3:53

and the Golden State Crew, Dramond

3:56

Clay Chris Paul, they're

3:58

already out good,

4:01

Okay, Lebron

4:04

and Ad Now Ad isn't in that older

4:06

guard, but he's kind of, I guess, more in the middle.

4:09

But Lebron could be out

4:12

at the end of the first round. Good Kevin

4:14

Durant could be out

4:17

good the end of the first round. And

4:20

this is a possibility, even though we both

4:22

had picked against it. Kawhi

4:25

Harden Westbrook and

4:27

Paul George could be out at

4:29

the end of the first round. Joannis

4:33

n mb now again Rob they are

4:35

kind of in that middle group, but they

4:38

could be out.

4:38

But Dame is definitely all guard.

4:41

He could be.

4:42

Out and Rob after

4:44

the first round of the playoffs.

4:47

These could be the big names.

4:49

Anthony Edwards, Carl

4:51

Anthony Towns, Shay gil

4:54

Just Alexander Check, Holmgren

4:57

or if I don't think New Orleans gonna

4:59

beat them, but Brandon Ingram and they're

5:01

talking like Zion might make

5:03

an appearance. Donovan Mitchell

5:05

Now he's again maybe in that middle guard

5:08

obviously, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown,

5:11

Jalen Brunson, Tyres

5:14

Halliburton, Luka, Doncic of

5:16

course, Kyrie again more

5:18

of a middle ground guy. And then

5:20

of course Rob Nicole Jokic

5:23

and Jamal Murray and Rob

5:26

we are we could be and I think we

5:29

will. It's clearly leaning

5:32

that way outside of the Clippers,

5:34

but we could definitely, Rob be

5:36

looking at the changing

5:39

of the NBA guard right before

5:42

our eyes. And you cannot say,

5:45

all, well, last year Denver won it, right,

5:47

it was already no because

5:49

Rob who they beating the conference finals, the

5:51

Lakers.

5:52

With Lebron.

5:55

The Lakers beat Yeah, the Lakers beat Steph

5:58

So like you had the big names

6:01

still alive. And Jimmy

6:03

Butler if you want to consider him

6:05

a big name from kind of the old guard.

6:07

He was in the finals against Denver. And

6:11

so Rob we this

6:13

could be the year that

6:15

we see it.

6:16

Do you like it? Do you think it's good

6:18

for the league? How do you think? Fans

6:21

respond?

6:23

I think it's good. I think there comes a

6:25

time where it's

6:28

time to have new players. I

6:30

know people just hate to, you

6:33

know, see different things happening. Oh my god,

6:35

I can't believe we're watching playoffs. But Chris,

6:37

some of the games have been good so far. The playoffs.

6:40

We got new stars. It's good to talk about

6:42

some different people. It's one thing when somebody's

6:45

around for a long time. They've been around for a long

6:47

time, that's been a conversation, and

6:49

they've had their days in this sudden like nobody you

6:51

haven't seen them win.

6:53

It's good to have some fresh blood.

6:55

And these are some some fun,

6:58

exciting new players.

7:00

So I'm going to embrace the new. I'm

7:02

good with it.

7:03

I mean, I

7:08

know the league and probably the TV people,

7:10

Chris aren't that happy with it. Nobody

7:12

wants Steph out, Nobody wants

7:15

Lebron and the Lakers out that quickly. It's

7:17

a big television market. You don't

7:19

want Los Angeles, Chris.

7:21

You don't want San Francisco, right.

7:24

Well, that's a whole nother thing.

7:26

In the markets, yeah, yeah, you're looking

7:28

at Denver, Minnesota,

7:31

Minneapolis.

7:32

Those are smaller, way smaller market.

7:34

Yeah, Indianapolis, Milwaukee,

7:37

if they're alive, Dallas.

7:42

Yeah, I mean New York. You know New

7:44

York could make a deep run. Now New York.

7:47

That will help Chris because people are starved

7:49

there and they so they're

7:51

they're gonna watch in droves. If you're in New

7:53

Yorkhoma City, Oklahoma City,

7:55

a small market.

7:56

Yeah, I look, I

8:00

think it's good because

8:02

this is the future and

8:04

John Moran will be in there, assuming he's

8:06

you know, got.

8:07

To know, man, I just can't get over how when

8:09

he's second secondary the second

8:12

thought.

8:13

Yeah it's but I think, you know again,

8:15

as long as he takes care of himself off the court,

8:17

he'll be that.

8:18

He'll be back.

8:20

Anthony Edwards obviously the

8:22

most exciting of the young batch. But

8:24

Rob, I think it's good because these

8:27

the fans need to get used to these

8:29

guys, right because these are the

8:31

guys that are gonna be the faces of the

8:33

league going forward. I

8:36

think right now though one

8:39

and and look, I used

8:41

to think the face of the league couldn't be an international

8:43

player. I don't think that anymore. But

8:46

you still is it still maybe

8:48

a slight obstacle with the fans. I don't

8:50

know, maybe, but a lot of these guys are

8:52

international. And to Rob,

8:56

I think Luca will show

8:58

his personality over time, Yoki,

9:01

Rob, you seeing the commercials starting to show

9:03

a little bit. You know, he's

9:05

a kind of a you know, quiet,

9:09

you know, understated guy, but he's

9:11

still likable.

9:13

But really, out of all these guys.

9:15

I mean, only Anthony Edwards

9:17

to date, Rob looks

9:20

like you know, has shown and

9:22

showcased that charisma that

9:25

where it's like, oh, we not only love his

9:27

game, but his style, his

9:30

personality, his smile,

9:32

we love his competitiveness,

9:35

talking trash like we love it.

9:38

Now they are trying with some

9:40

of the young guys, Rob, You've seen SGA

9:43

and Chuck Holgren in the commercial,

9:45

Jason Tatum in some commercials.

9:48

As I mentioned, jokis getting a little So

9:51

they're trying. But Rob, G, I

9:53

want to bring you in because you have

9:55

a take. You don't think

9:57

this is good for the league?

9:59

Right?

10:00

No, I don't, and

10:02

not that change isn't good or that I'm not

10:04

embracing the new era because you.

10:06

Rob, I'm shocked, you young guy,

10:10

this is just be a hot take artist

10:13

that make makes some headlines or

10:15

or if he really you know, ain't I

10:18

think.

10:18

And again, we've seen this already happen,

10:21

like we've seen the Shaq

10:23

Kobe Duncan Garnett era fizzle

10:25

out. Right, So that's this is not unusual.

10:28

What is different to men,

10:31

right, But what is different to me about

10:33

this current situation that we have

10:35

going on is that it seems to

10:37

be happening very abruptly. It's

10:40

not like there's a transition period

10:42

where you know, the Lakers fought

10:44

really hard with Lebron James and ultimately they

10:47

just get washed out.

10:47

No, they got swept last year.

10:49

Steph Curry has missed the playoffs two of the

10:51

last three seasons. Kevin Durant since

10:53

he's left Golden State, has been an afterthought.

10:55

So this old guard of the greatest

10:58

players of that generation being

11:01

basically unceremoniously dumped to the

11:03

side without ever really

11:05

having that last gasp that you look for.

11:08

It's kind of tough. And I don't think that NBA fans

11:12

right now especially are

11:14

going to be embracing this young

11:16

group of players the way that they

11:18

should, because they're still holding on to that nostalgia.

11:21

There's a reason why when you look at the

11:23

NBA TV ratings, the top two

11:25

teams every year the last three or four years

11:27

especially have been Lebron's Lakers

11:29

and steps Warriors. And if both of

11:31

them are out by before

11:34

May first, that's not good for the

11:36

league.

11:37

But if you have new places like New York,

11:39

you don't count that.

11:40

Like like no, and I

11:42

like it, I like watching your I like Jalen Brunton,

11:44

but Jalen Brunson is not the kind of guy who's gonna bring in

11:46

new fans, not when he's shooting

11:48

the sixteen for fifty five in the first two

11:51

games.

11:51

Here's why I'll push back a little

11:54

because there is some validity to what

11:56

you're saying. The only

11:58

thing I pushed back or is like

12:02

the notion that it's abrupt.

12:05

It's not abrupt. I mean, Steph

12:08

won a championship a couple of years ago. And

12:12

here's the other thing. Like

12:14

I said, Lebron, they were in the conference finals

12:17

last year. They got swept, but they were in

12:19

the conference finals. But also

12:21

rob g they're playing

12:24

longer. They

12:26

should have been gone. I

12:28

mean really, like the reason it

12:30

might feel abrupt to you is

12:32

because Lebron James at thirty nine

12:35

is still playing great.

12:37

We'll talk.

12:37

He should have been gone.

12:39

Steph should have been gone at thirty

12:41

five KD thirty five. Like

12:44

that's the thing there. Isaiah Thomas

12:47

was gone. What was he robbed thirty two? Magic

12:50

early?

12:50

Now we know Magic's was was different,

12:52

but still.

12:56

Remember Isaiah towards Achilles.

12:58

Yep, yep, early thirties, Bird

13:01

early to mid thirties. Like that's

13:04

the thing.

13:05

This era of lebron

13:07

KD and Steph has lasted longer.

13:10

Rob G.

13:10

Yeah, really, that's totally fair. And I

13:13

think the reason why to me

13:15

it feels abrupt is because that next

13:17

wave of players, only

13:20

Jason Tatum has had any real postseason

13:22

success, and he's never become

13:25

that crossover star that you would expect.

13:27

I know, he has the commercials, the ruffles

13:29

and all these different things, but he does

13:31

not translate on a national

13:33

scale the way a guy of his caliber

13:35

should, or a team that team should. Nikola

13:38

Jokic is by far

13:40

the best player in the NBA right now, and

13:43

his Q rating outside of sports fans

13:45

is like two, right, you know what I mean?

13:47

Like Luca Luka.

13:50

Doncic could be that guy,

13:52

but he again has had

13:54

the first round once in his career. Giannis

13:58

probably has the best crossover ap to

14:00

your point, they might get bounce out of the first round anyways.

14:03

So well, there's there's no logical

14:05

guy that's gonna step in and say

14:07

I'm gonna be the the face

14:10

of this league for at least temporarily

14:12

in the playoffs. That's gonna get

14:14

people that Watchward.

14:18

Well, he is a guy in Minnesota.

14:21

Yeah, I will see it's Anthony Edwards,

14:24

I mean because his game and

14:27

now I also think the

14:30

clear future in my view,

14:32

tell me if you guys disagree, the

14:34

clear future of the league is winm bin

14:36

Yama. He is

14:39

going to be the face of the league. He's

14:41

going to own the league and

14:43

that's going to and like Jokic is

14:45

owning it right now.

14:47

And I think Wimby,

14:50

I don't know.

14:51

It's it's gonna be a good test

14:53

because we've seen the best

14:55

players in the league, the absolute best,

14:57

become international guys, right but

15:01

the Lebrons and the Steps

15:04

and the kds were still

15:06

there. The international

15:09

players have become the best, but

15:11

they are the American the great

15:13

old guard. American players are still

15:15

the faces of the league.

15:18

So now once they're gone, will

15:21

you know what happens when the

15:24

absolute best players are international

15:26

now again, Jah and Anthony

15:28

Edwards they need to carry the torch for America.

15:31

And Jason Tatum if he can step

15:33

up and you know, take that next step.

15:37

But because Wemby, you know, we'll

15:39

see it'll be a.

15:39

Good a lot of things happening

15:42

and a lot of things you'll be looking

15:45

for to see. You know, how

15:47

the popularity of the league is when

15:49

all the best players or most

15:52

of the absolute best players are international

15:54

because there is just a cultural difference, you

15:57

know, Yokad just just I mean,

15:59

he's in a different country. I

16:01

don't know how colorful

16:04

I'd be in a second language

16:06

in some culture that I'm never, you

16:09

know, not really used to.

16:12

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16:14

a It definitely feels like a changing

16:16

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16:19

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16:21

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19:02

There's a changing of the guard underweigh

19:04

in the NBA. Do you like it, love

19:07

it or hate it?

19:08

Your thoughts?

19:09

All right, let's kick it off with Will

19:12

in Mississippi. You're on the EYD couple Fox

19:15

Sports Radio.

19:15

What's up?

19:16

Will?

19:17

What's up? Christa?

19:18

Rob?

19:18

How y'all doing?

19:18

Man?

19:19

Good man?

19:20

How are you pretty good? Pretty good?

19:22

But you know my comment on the topic

19:25

of y'all talking about is I just

19:27

wonder like myself. First, I can't speak for everybody,

19:29

but I'm ready for the changing of the guard, but

19:31

it seems like sports media, maybe television

19:34

and things are like not really ready for it.

19:36

Like if you think about like watching First Take

19:38

or Undisputed or Colin Cowherd.

19:40

Whoever you watch through out the day, the people

19:42

that get the airtime is the Lakers. They still talk

19:44

about Golden State.

19:45

And I mean you think about the last three years,

19:47

three to four years, like the Lakers

19:49

are scraping trying to get into the play in and the

19:51

Golden State like doing the same thing. And then

19:53

you got these these teams like, ok see the

19:56

Milwaukee's the New York now,

19:58

you know, like these guys that are like number one, two,

20:00

three in the Eastern wis like not really

20:03

getting much media company. So it's like, are y'all really

20:05

ready to accept that's

20:07

a.

20:07

Good that's a good call. I mean, let's

20:11

go ahead rhy.

20:11

Sorry, No, I'm just saying, you know, Chris

20:14

and the business that we're in, a lot of times

20:16

they want to play the hits, yep, And

20:18

that's the problem, and we can I'll

20:20

give you a perfect example.

20:22

Almost nobody talked about Denver last

20:24

year.

20:24

Chris.

20:25

I mean you on TV every day.

20:27

Like how much did Denver get not in the postseason

20:30

once they got there.

20:31

But during that season last year.

20:33

Not much I had to talk about them, am I right?

20:35

But I think and that's what we're talking

20:37

about.

20:38

Look, the NBA rose to popularity

20:41

based on personalities, Rob and individuals,

20:44

all right, Bird and Magic, Michael,

20:46

Jordan, Kobe and Shaq. And

20:49

this generation that's about

20:51

to end has had that.

20:53

You had Lebron James, who's in.

20:55

The Gold Conversation and was a

20:57

child, you know, a junior team prodigy.

21:00

You had Steph Curry, who literally changed

21:02

the game the way it's played.

21:05

And you had Kobe.

21:07

Before that, who was you know, just a

21:09

charismatic player and personality.

21:12

Of course, Jordan before that. Who's going

21:14

to be that guy? Now?

21:16

I think it's gonna be Wimby, But

21:19

until he comes of age,

21:21

who's gonna be the guy? Jokic is awesome,

21:24

but there's a little Tim Duncan quality

21:26

to it. I think he's actually much more

21:28

fun to watch, and even

21:31

strangely, I feel like

21:35

a more compelling personality, not

21:37

strangely, but more compelling personality

21:40

than Duncan.

21:42

But he's not Lebron or Steph.

21:44

No.

21:45

All right, let's squeeze in one more Chris,

21:48

let's talk to Marty

21:50

in Kentucky.

21:51

You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up,

21:53

Marty?

21:56

What's up?

21:57

Man? Man?

21:58

Yes, we're good, brother.

22:00

Yeah, you know, I say, let it

22:02

flow. You know, it's it's

22:05

the natural changing of the guard. And

22:07

there's some really special stars,

22:10

Sgat. You got

22:13

Edwards out there, man, he's stud You got

22:15

some really entertaining guys. And you know, Joker

22:17

right now is doing things that are just unheard

22:19

of and he's making it look easy. And

22:22

then what's going on in college basketball?

22:24

You mentioned what really skyrocketed

22:26

d NBA's popularity was the Bird and Magic

22:29

rivalry. Where did that start? That started in college

22:31

basketball? And I believe what's going on in

22:33

college right now, especially with the

22:35

news today that highs and getting rerewarded,

22:38

everything's changing. It's gonna it's

22:40

just gonna blow up the money.

22:42

He's gonna get bigger and bigger, and players

22:45

are gonna stay in college basketball, and that's

22:47

gonna get people to invest into

22:49

those players. When they go to the NBA,

22:51

they're gonna want to watch them.

22:52

So I think that they just let this thing

22:54

to go and let it flow.

22:56

It's gonna turn out all.

22:57

Right, that'll

23:00

be interesting, it will, you know, because

23:02

look, I mean the NBA is fun

23:04

too. I mean the lifestyle, right, and you don't have to

23:06

go to class. But Rob, we know college

23:09

is fun.

23:09

And if I'm getting paid millions to stay there, you

23:12

know, I mean, I'm at that

23:14

age, see it.

23:14

I think all the stars, I don't think all the

23:16

time.

23:16

No, I mean NBA is fun too, So that's what I'm

23:18

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23:21

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May eighth, or not this Saturday, but it's Saturday

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24:03

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24:05

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24:10

right, man, Sean Mary, what's

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up, man, how you doing?

24:14

Tell us about lights Out sixteen.

24:17

Yeoh, what's up, fellas.

24:18

Yeah, we got a huge event in Long

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24:22

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and Long Beast, California.

25:08

That's great, that's great, man, congratulations

25:10

on that, and let's stick with

25:12

with fighting a little bit.

25:15

We saw.

25:16

I was shocked at

25:18

what took place on Saturday, and that was

25:20

Ryan Garcia, who seemed to be and

25:23

this ain't even a figure speech out

25:25

of his mind before

25:28

he took on Devin Haney and

25:30

he knocked Hane down three times

25:32

and won the fight by decision.

25:35

But were you how surprised were

25:37

you? And do you think that

25:39

all the antics he did off

25:41

the you know, out of the ring, do

25:44

you think that was a

25:46

show and that he was trying to get Haney

25:48

off his game mentally or

25:51

do you think he just is going

25:53

through some things, had some issues, but

25:55

he was able to make it work for him

25:57

in the ring.

25:58

I think what Ryan did, to be honest, man,

26:01

I think it needs to be studyed like

26:03

it needs to be studied. I know Ryan since

26:05

he was sixteen seventeen years old. I used to go to

26:07

the gym and watch them, but everybody was to tell me about him

26:09

and I will sit around and just watch his kid and

26:12

him its colors. I know him personally, and even

26:15

I got to a certain point where I was gonna text

26:17

him and reach out and say, dude, are you Okay, right,

26:19

if you need you know what I'm saying, you need somebody let us

26:22

know, because look, we all deal with stuff,

26:24

we go through it. What he did

26:26

going up to that fight, he sold the fight.

26:29

People watch that Devin Hainey fight

26:31

because of Ryan Garcia. I got nothing.

26:33

I know.

26:33

I know Devin, you know, I

26:35

know know his family knows folks. But

26:37

people watch that fight because of Ryan

26:39

Garcia. And when he did to sell that fight

26:42

needs to be studying.

26:44

Yeah, I mean everybody, everybody

26:46

was worried for him because it was just so

26:49

erratic and it just seemed so crazy.

26:51

But I guess it worked.

26:54

Reggie Bush got his Heisman trophy

26:57

back, and we were talking about this, Sean,

26:59

I'm I'm putting out a challenge

27:01

to all former athletes who

27:03

have podcasts and platforms,

27:06

and I want them to come clean and

27:08

cleanse themselves now that apparently,

27:10

if this stuff

27:13

is known, you're not going to be heard or

27:15

taken out of a Hall of fame or taking.

27:17

Your trophies away.

27:19

About money and stuff

27:21

that went on in college and did you get paid

27:23

off?

27:23

How much did you get Why are we letting

27:25

the.

27:25

Institutions, the college presidents and the

27:27

coaches get off Scott free.

27:30

I want people to expose it all.

27:32

I want to hear it all. Are you interested in hearing

27:35

that?

27:35

Yeah, I'm not going to incriminate myself, but

27:38

I'll tell you this.

27:39

See there you go.

27:40

Hey, Sean, I'll just wait before you say that.

27:42

Sean, did you get money when you were in college?

27:47

Physical physical money? No, but

27:50

currency for sure. I think

27:52

that.

27:54

You know, everybody got a joke about the brown paper

27:56

bag right meeting around the corner by the trash in

27:58

the back alley with the brown paper bag. I

28:00

think that's the ongoing joke. But you

28:03

know what was done to Reggie was

28:05

it was almost like an example to hang them out to drive

28:08

and they had nothing to do with happened. It was a pride

28:10

issue by the NC doublop by it.

28:12

It was a pride issue, right.

28:13

It was like, we knew this not a big deal,

28:16

but you're not going to force us

28:18

to change our opinion and we have

28:20

the upper hand. I think that they eventually

28:23

caved in from the pressure. I mean guys like Johnny

28:25

mindel Camp coming out and saying, hey, I'm

28:27

not coming to anything with involved in the Heisman

28:30

Trophy and then they knew see one

28:32

thing in this day and age, when one person say

28:34

something, the next person say something, the next

28:36

five, next ten, the next fifteen. They

28:38

saw it coming. They saw it coming. That

28:41

guy's going to start to rebel. Not

28:43

want anything to do it until Reggie Bush got

28:46

his.

28:47

His heisman back.

28:48

And I tell people all the time, the powers of the people,

28:50

right and everything, the powers and the people.

28:53

If all those guys that group together said we're

28:55

not coming to that, heids mouths, We're not doing

28:57

any media, We're not doing any part of it until Reggie

28:59

gets this high. He would have got it back years

29:01

ago. And it's a shame that took this long. But you

29:04

know, being a coach, runch REGI man, I'm so happy for

29:06

him and my team. Reggie was the

29:08

most exciting college football player ever.

29:10

And and I'm not just saying that. And I was a

29:12

big fan of Barry Sanders and you know

29:14

herschel Walker some of my favorite I think I

29:17

think the Reggie Bush was the most exciting

29:20

college football player ever, and he as well

29:22

deserved.

29:22

You got it back, hey, he said,

29:24

if people would have banded together,

29:27

NFL players won't even get together to get better

29:30

healthcare.

29:30

And pensions.

29:32

Uh, why in the world were

29:34

you think they're going to do that for over a trophy.

29:37

Well, that's that's the problem. I think that's that's the

29:39

number one thing. And when you're talking

29:42

about these holdouts and everything else with the NFL,

29:44

I mean, like I said, the powers in the

29:46

people in groups. Yes, and once

29:48

you once you realize that you can't move

29:50

forward without the group, then the real decisions

29:53

have to be made so that that you

29:55

know, if this has shown anybody anything,

29:58

is that you band together, and you come together

30:00

and to put to put some pressure on people,

30:02

you get things done.

30:03

Sean, Obviously we got the NFL draft

30:06

coming up. You were the twelfth pick in

30:08

the two thousand and five draft out

30:11

of Maryland. What is that week

30:13

or even maybe weeks like before

30:16

the draft. I

30:18

imagine it's one of the best best

30:21

times of your life. Just take us through

30:23

what these guys are experiencing right

30:25

now.

30:26

Well, I think the biggest thing is you've

30:28

done the biggest part already and that's half

30:30

film, right you got you.

30:31

Got the film.

30:32

I don't care what their pro what the combind

30:35

look like with your pro day looks like number one, you got

30:37

filmed the second part is you go through

30:39

the combine, you go through your pro DA's Now it's time

30:41

to chill, right, just listen for your am to

30:43

be called. The most nerve

30:46

wrecking thing in the situation is when

30:48

you go on these digits, all these teams, they all tell

30:50

you they want you. Hey, if you're gonna be here,

30:52

I'm gonna draft you. I remember meeting with Jerry Jones,

30:54

Bill Parcells, We're gonna draft you. I remember

30:56

meeting when Steve Marry you to Detroit.

30:59

We're gonna draft you. Remember a meeting with the

31:01

then Redskins, We're gonna draft you. So

31:04

the uncertainty was there, but I

31:06

knew that I was going somewhere between the third pick to

31:08

Cleveland to.

31:09

The fifteenth pick.

31:10

I think Houston or whoever had that had that

31:12

year. But for the most part, got it is for your

31:14

friends, your family, your coaches, everybody a

31:16

part of that journey.

31:18

And when your.

31:18

Name get called, man, just sit back and just accept

31:21

it, take it in and then get back to work. That's that's

31:23

the biggest thing, mane Just get to work. When

31:25

it's high.

31:27

What advice would you give what,

31:30

regardless of position, But what do you like these

31:33

college players need to know

31:36

is different. The biggest difference between

31:38

the NFL and even

31:40

big time Division one college football.

31:43

You gotta you gotta go in and

31:45

drop your pride, your ego at the door when you

31:47

walk in.

31:48

That's that's the biggest thing.

31:49

I don't care what you did in college, what your accolades

31:52

are, you haven't done anything on that level.

31:54

And you'll find out very quickly that

31:56

you're that this game is different, not just the speed

31:59

and everything else. You talking about gods just ten plus

32:01

years in, who got families?

32:03

Who you know?

32:04

It's just a maturity levels you got to bring to

32:06

the locker room and you got to drop your pride and you

32:08

go out to do it because you rub the wrong people

32:10

the wrong way. Man, it just creates this stigma.

32:13

So but I tell you, guys, man, don't you know, get

32:15

get with the older Get put the older guys you know at

32:17

your position or the older vet. Hey, what time

32:19

are you gonna work out? What time are you watching film? Get

32:22

with them you, I mean to the him to the point where they

32:24

you annoyed them when they tell you they little

32:27

guy, leave me alone. Get with the older guys

32:29

as fast as you can because they gonna show you the ropes

32:31

and speed up your process.

32:33

All right, that's our man. Sean Merriman.

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32:56

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33:53

the Miami Heat have done it again

33:55

and it is just one game, right,

33:58

we don't know if they'll win the series.

34:00

I'm still picking Boston, I imagine

34:02

you are as well, but.

34:05

Game right, right right, I'm not.

34:07

It is still impressive. They

34:10

they have stolen home court from the

34:12

Celtics. The

34:14

Celtics ran away with

34:17

the best record in the league by

34:19

far this year, won the

34:21

East by fourteen games. Miami

34:24

is the eighth seed. Miami

34:27

doesn't have his best player, Jimmy

34:29

Butler, and they go into

34:31

Boston and steal.

34:33

Home court advantage. Rob. Look,

34:37

I want to praise Miami.

34:38

I will as a credit to Eric

34:41

Spostra, who just proves

34:43

year after year he's a great coach. Honestly,

34:47

Look, they got great players, they got a great

34:49

culture. Obviously, pat Riley is

34:51

one of the best executives we've ever seen.

34:54

But if you get

34:57

the dude some.

34:58

Real like top

35:00

notch talent, Rob, they'd

35:03

be winning championships.

35:04

I would think, I

35:06

know, they get there, but they're under made.

35:08

They're not you know, they're just not nearly

35:10

as talented as some of these teams. So

35:12

it's a credit to him, Rob, but

35:15

it's also a discredit to the Celtics,

35:18

And.

35:18

I just like not being focused,

35:20

not being out there thinking that it's in the

35:23

bag. We talk about all the time. This

35:25

is why I say, Chris all the time about

35:28

four out of seven is the is the is

35:30

the neutralizer. It'll the best

35:32

team is gonna win. If you played some of

35:34

these games in a one game and I'm not saying

35:36

that the Celtiers would have lost for sure, but

35:38

you can get beat in one game, I

35:41

don't care how good you are and the other team

35:43

doesn't have their best player or or we've

35:46

seen it over and over, haven't.

35:47

We We've seen Oh yeah, no, no doubt,

35:50

no doubt.

35:51

But it's something I

35:54

don't know.

35:55

Look, I picked them to get to the finals

35:57

and I'm sticking with that, and I feel good about

35:59

that.

36:00

You should feel good about one game, Chris.

36:02

They're not gonna go all

36:04

year.

36:06

I have been.

36:08

There's something about the Celtics

36:10

that just I

36:13

can't give my all to them. I

36:16

can't give all my belief to them.

36:19

I don't.

36:20

Look, they are young, and

36:22

maybe they're just not ready yet.

36:24

But Rob, there's no excuse

36:27

for this, and we've seen

36:29

them.

36:29

Look, when it gets close, we know

36:31

they're not great in the clutch, and

36:35

their best players aren't particularly

36:37

JS, you know, Jason Tatum and Jaylen

36:40

Brown.

36:40

And those are with figures. That's not the feelings.

36:43

Those are stats to back that up.

36:45

And they're gonna be close games in the playoffs.

36:47

Again, Look, I think because the East

36:50

is just so messed up this year,

36:53

with Milwaukee missing Giannis and not

36:55

playing well itself, a Philly,

36:58

you know.

36:58

Mbads banged up.

37:00

They have a yellow brick roll to the

37:02

finals, but they're making it

37:04

hard and I don't

37:06

it feels like.

37:10

Right, It feels like it's

37:12

a lack of tough. This is why I said, Rob to

37:15

me, Missoula is on the hot seat.

37:18

You didn't take over a thirty seven win team.

37:20

They went to the finals before

37:24

you got there. And if they don't

37:26

get.

37:26

There this year, I'm not saying they have to win it.

37:29

You look and I don't think they're gonna lose this,

37:31

But it just Miami

37:34

is tough mentally

37:36

and physically. Is Boston

37:40

is Boston? They were under a dooka

37:43

Rob. We saw what they did to

37:45

Durant and Kyrie. We

37:48

saw how tough and physical they were.

37:51

Are they still that team?

37:56

Good question?

37:58

Are they a bunch of glamour? You know? Soft.

38:03

This postseason nets yeah,

38:06

this postseason will probably tell you.

38:10

But their questions to be answered, not just

38:12

the one loss. We don't want to overreact, Chris,

38:14

because that might be Miami. That might be the only game

38:17

they win. It happens sometimes,

38:19

but it talks about the focus.

38:21

Don't play more games than you have to, Chris

38:23

in the postseason, right, don't play more

38:25

games than you have to.

38:26

And Miami's under man

38:28

and they don't have this start.

38:30

It's not like you up two to zero and you lost game

38:32

three. Nobody would you

38:34

know. I wouldn't be that big of a deal. You lost

38:36

home court. And again I think they'll win it because there's

38:38

so much more talented, but

38:41

you know, maybe.

38:43

Better toughen up, toughen

38:45

up.

38:46

All right, this is the couple Chris a Rod were about

38:48

to sign off, but keep it locked. Jason

38:50

Smith and Mike Harmon next, and they

38:52

bring fire, straight fire,

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