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Hey,

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everyone. Welcome back to the official Yellowstone

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Podcast. We are so glad you can join

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us again. I'm Jen

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Landon, and I am joined as always by

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my very good friend, mister Jefferson

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White.

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Hey, Jen. How you doing? I am happy

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as always to be here with you today, but

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also especially today. So

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this is typically where we tell, you

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know, we tell the audience a little bit about what

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we've got planned for the day. We

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perhaps let them know who our

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guest of the day is. However,

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this week just so happens to be a very

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special week, Valentine's Day's this

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week. So I thought I might put together a little

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something special. Me and the producers

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have put

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together a little something special, and

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we're gonna be surprising you with

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our guests, Jen. So like our audience, you're

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also gonna have to sit tight for just a little bit

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longer. Jeff, this makes me incredibly

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nervous. This could be very, very good

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or very, very awkward.

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I I'm guessing it's gonna be a little bit calm,

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little bit calm beach. Listen.

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Jeff, that was the longest commercial break of my

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life. Can I can I now know who

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my Valentine's guest is for

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the

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day? Listen, this is an audio format,

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so the audience can't know how gleefully

1:54

how gleefully I'm raising my eyebrows

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and how sort of, you know, how much I'm insinuating

2:00

by rubbing my hands together sort

2:02

of

2:03

fiendishly. Listen. You gotta

2:05

be patient, Jen. We're gonna get to that. This

2:07

is our Valentine's Day episode. However,

2:09

so

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let's talk romance. Yeah. Yeah,

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please distract me with some other

2:15

romances from the Yellowstone nineteen

2:17

twenty

2:18

three, eighteen eighty three universe, so I can,

2:20

you know, not sit here and sweat. What is

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funny? I mean, this is a show that is in a lot of

2:24

ways really built on these

2:27

relationships. You know, we we see over and over

2:29

again. Amongst the the dutton

2:31

generations, we see these pairs, these

2:33

partnerships, these two partners that

2:35

support each other in many

2:38

ways. Sometimes it's

2:40

support each other physically, you know,

2:42

sometimes it's, you know, carry each other

2:44

to safety. Other times it's helping

2:46

each other manage responsibilities. It's

2:48

a really beautiful thing. We see these these

2:51

really rich partnerships, and it it also casts

2:53

in a new light, the tragedy of

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John Dunton junior --

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Right. -- hour John Dunton, you

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know, in Yellowstone, the John Dunton that that

3:02

we first got to know the

3:04

tragedy that he has no partner. He is

3:07

bereft. From the moment we meet him, he

3:09

is without that

3:12

partnership. And he's seeking to sort

3:14

of cobble together what he's missing

3:16

by calling on his children, by

3:18

sort of giving more and more responsibilities to

3:21

his children, but it really, over and over again, we

3:23

hear him saying, if my wife only saw the mess

3:25

I've made of his family, if only I had, you

3:28

know, the kind of support that I needed to

3:30

to keep this ranch going and also to care for

3:32

these kids. Right. And

3:34

so you bring up a interesting point

3:37

of the sort of difference between the

3:39

partnership that we're talking about in terms

3:41

of the women holding down for it, which is what

3:43

John lost, and

3:46

the romance that, like, John is obviously

3:48

bringing in his life through senator Perry,

3:51

through Summer, but that

3:54

that those romances are

3:56

different than the kind of partnership

3:59

that the relationships in

4:02

the Yellowstone universe are built

4:04

on? Yeah. We've seen both on Yellowstone. We've

4:06

seen hot and heavy. We've seen,

4:08

you know, We've seen

4:10

infatuation. Everybody's talking

4:13

about Spencer and Alexandra. Spencer

4:15

and Alexandra. Before Spencer and Alexander,

4:17

well after, but before in terms of the show's area.

4:20

What about Jimmy and Mia? Everybody

4:25

everybody's talking about Spencer and Alexandra,

4:27

like they're the coolest, hottest couple.

4:29

Before Spencer and Alexander, we had

4:32

Casey and Monica -- Yeah. --

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Jimmy and Mia -- Beth and

4:36

Rip and Laramie. Beth and Rip

4:39

And that's amazing because we've seen that that

4:41

relationship grow and change over the years

4:44

from one that was perhaps based

4:47

on, you know, mutual infatuation

4:52

based on perhaps a degree of lust

4:54

and now we've seen it mature into

4:56

that kind of partnership that you're describing. This

4:58

real sort of walking side by side. Another

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one of my favorite relation ships on the show

5:03

is Casey and Monica. Yeah. I

5:05

feel like Casey and Monica, they've been through

5:08

so you know, Beth and Rip have been through

5:10

lots of ups and downs But if you go

5:12

back and watch Yellowstone against Soul of Casey

5:14

and Monika, they have sort of they

5:17

they've come really close to parting

5:19

ways over and over again. They've

5:21

they've been through so many roller

5:25

coasters as a couple. You know, they started

5:27

out with completely different goals. It felt

5:29

like, you know, they were young and in love.

5:31

They have a kid. But then when

5:33

it came down to it, and they have

5:35

to start making decisions about, you

5:38

know, where they're gonna live when both of

5:40

their families are putting pressure on them.

5:42

They really feel like a Romeo and Juliet

5:44

to me in a way that I I think is

5:46

is beautifully

5:47

crafted. And those are also two of my favorite actors

5:49

on the show. Same. And and while they

5:52

do feel totally Romeo

5:54

and Juliet in origin. They

5:57

also simultaneously have

5:59

a relationship that in many ways, to

6:01

me, feels the most grounded

6:04

and, you know, that day

6:06

in and day out relationship. I

6:08

don't know if we see that in

6:11

another pairing do we see that

6:13

in another pairing on Yellowstone

6:16

in that steady way? Kid. Right?

6:18

I think part of it having tape. That that

6:20

brings them that's this kind of unifying

6:24

force. That means they have to come back together.

6:26

They always sort of have to return

6:29

to each other for Tate's sake. And

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I really think that's AAA thing that, you know,

6:34

they they've been through so many tumultuous ups and

6:36

downs, and think is one of the reasons that

6:38

they've always managed to navigate those those

6:40

stormy waters. Yeah. That is actually

6:43

a really good point. Jeff,

6:45

I suddenly was struck with this this

6:48

question, which is how

6:51

do we think the different couples on Yellowstone?

6:54

Are celebrating Valentine's Day.

6:57

You know, like, you like, how

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do they do it? So Monica

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and Casey, since we started there, you know,

7:03

Monica you know, Monica and

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Casey, I feel like are having a

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supper at home or, you know, they're

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sitting on the porch

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a little quiet. Yeah. They're

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trying to be intimate and

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Tate has a question about Right.

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What do we think Summer and John are doing?

7:19

Summer and John They're in also,

7:21

similarly, they're trying to be intimate and Beth

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is interrupting and dragging summer

7:26

out of their room by her

7:27

hair. Yeah. Listen, Jen,

7:29

speaking of what various couples are doing on

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Valentine's Day, folks are gonna wonder what

7:33

it is we're up to on Valentine's Day. I have

7:35

no doubt you're wondering. Okay,

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Jeff.

7:39

I need to know who

7:42

is the guest for the day.

7:44

Alright, Jen.

7:45

Which app? I'm gonna put you out of your misery.

7:47

I've got all your ex your

7:50

all your exes on this call. No,

7:52

Lisa. And you're gonna so here's your

7:54

here's your happy prize over the course of this introduction,

7:56

you will realize who I'm talking about because I could

7:58

only be talking about one man. We've

8:01

got with us today my dear

8:03

friend of six years. He's an actor.

8:05

He's a writer. He's a producer. He's a director.

8:07

He's a businessman. He is one of the most

8:10

multi hyphenate talented people

8:12

I've ever met in my life. And

8:15

least interesting about him. He plays

8:17

your love interest on Yellowstone

8:19

Colby. We've got with us today, Denim

8:22

Richards. Denim, thank you for being here. Man,

8:24

I I feel like I need to take you and introduce

8:27

me everywhere when I go into grocery stores, when

8:29

I get to petrol, everything.

8:31

That's now that's what I need.

8:34

To do literally

8:35

anything. It's it's great to be. It's great to hear

8:37

you guys' voice. Jen, how

8:39

are you? Jen, I'm always happy to see

8:41

you, but I have to say I've never been more

8:43

happy than I am right now to

8:45

see you because of the terror

8:47

I experienced for the last twelve minutes

8:50

thinking that Jeff had brought some

8:52

x out of the closet

8:54

to talk

8:55

to you.

8:56

I do imagine if there's like a roulette imagine

8:58

like a roulette something that's happening like live.

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Or we just pull in weird access to tell There

9:03

aren't that many. Like, don't make it

9:05

roulette. There's, like, there's too many.

9:07

It's more like

9:08

Yeah. We're bringing in dozens of gen

9:10

techs.

9:11

I'm I'm clearly projected at

9:14

this point. This is this is this is this is all of

9:16

checks. This is our And

9:17

now that we've got you here, denim, I'm so excited

9:19

to bring our our size checks.

9:22

Right. Somebody that's dated both of us.

9:27

At some point, but it

9:29

had to happen. You know? It's like

9:32

believeable. What's going on, guys?

9:34

How's every how's how's everything going?

9:37

We're good, man. We're chilling. We're spending today. We're

9:39

talking about we're diving in. So at

9:41

the core of the Yellowstone universe, as

9:43

we know, is family. And at the

9:45

core of those families, it's

9:48

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9:50

our our touchy, feely, intimate

9:53

Valentine's Day episode of

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9:57

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10:12

But also, we can't discount Kobe

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10:17

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10:20

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listen, this in Yellowstone particularly. In

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12:13

got more relationships

12:15

popping off in the workplace than

12:17

ever before. Everybody on

12:19

the show is boot up at

12:20

this point. Yeah. We've got Peter

12:22

and Colby. We've got Ryan and Abby.

12:25

We've got Walker and Laramy. That's

12:27

just in the

12:28

bunkhouse. Oh my

12:29

god. It's

12:29

We got Jake

12:30

and Ethan. Yeah.

12:31

Jake and Ethan. And that to me

12:33

was is, like, the couple that everybody

12:36

is kinda trying to get

12:38

to be like

12:39

Yeah. Exactly. That level of that level

12:41

of intimacy

12:42

we're all striving for that.

12:44

I think, like, Lloyd did his gun.

12:46

Right. He say Lloyd's, like, Lloyd's, like, Lloyd's,

12:48

like, I got my gun, you know.

12:50

Oh, Lloyd and the line. Life. The cowboy light.

12:52

You know, it's like fishermen are married to the

12:54

sea. Lloyd is married. You

12:56

know? He's married to the

12:58

turtle. Yeah. Right? Like, I think No.

13:00

This is I think it's fascinating. Right? Like,

13:03

watching kinda all of these, you know, it seemed

13:05

like season one. It seemed like you would never be

13:07

able to have relationships and,

13:10

you know, the way that it's just kind of been woven

13:12

in, in a very kind of organic

13:14

way, doesn't none of it feels forced. But

13:16

I do think it's gonna be fascinating because,

13:18

you know, us as individuals

13:20

who don't want our hearts broken and and then

13:22

when you play that, you know, because we talk

13:24

about this all the time that, like, you know, if a character

13:27

leaves or if there's a split up, that

13:29

person actually leaves. Yeah. Right? So,

13:31

like, we as individuals, we

13:33

feel even what the characters are feeling because

13:35

you're like, damn, this person's gone. I think

13:37

hopefully, these couples will stay strong

13:40

and vibrant

13:41

for many, many seasons to come.

13:43

I mean, speaking of romance and the Dutens.

13:46

Right? So all of these all of

13:48

these dutton kids at this point have

13:50

these relationships in this season. We also

13:52

saw Jamie. Jamie

13:54

developed this beautiful relationship

13:57

ship. This amazing thing for Jamie, but

13:59

think the whole time, we were all kind of

14:02

grimacing and gridding our teeth

14:04

with fear because this is a you know, it's

14:06

the other it's the flip side of

14:08

this. It's intimacy as a weapon.

14:10

Right. You know? Right. The shoes on the other foot,

14:12

you know. And I think that's you know,

14:14

that's the sometimes I think that's hard. You know,

14:16

you don't ever know if you're being used, what

14:19

that looks like, you know, you get comfortable

14:21

and then they cut your head off. You know, and I think

14:23

that that's something with Jamie. I think that that's

14:25

something he could could potentially be

14:28

experiencing, which is why

14:30

more and more as these relationships go, I feel

14:32

more and more confident about the colby and Teeter's

14:35

relationship because as

14:38

as weird as it is, the foundations of

14:40

it are very unique, and genuine,

14:43

And I think that's it's fascinating

14:46

because it seems like our relationship

14:48

is kinda like a cockroach. Right?

14:50

Where it's it's just no

14:53

matter what you throw at it, we're still gonna just

14:55

kinda weirdly be together.

14:57

Denim, do you think that Colby and

14:59

Teeter had a conversation about,

15:02

like, consent in terms of bringing the

15:04

third into their relationship, which

15:06

is the bear do you think that, like, they

15:08

talked about consciously bringing

15:11

in a third, or do you think that was just

15:14

sort of spur of the moment?

15:16

Yeah. I think that in the moment, Kobe

15:18

felt like there was a lot of people that

15:20

were around, and he didn't wanna make, like, a

15:22

scene. And then I think

15:24

what just kinda naturally ended up happening

15:26

was the bear just became

15:30

part of it. It's there at breakfast, Right?

15:33

It's bad thing. And it's weird. You

15:35

know? But I think, you know, for Colby, I think

15:37

Teeter loves it, and I think Colby is learning

15:39

to love whatever Teeter

15:41

loves. From

15:44

afar though, right, more I

15:46

don't know. I think that bear I didn't

15:48

see that bear on that truck when

15:50

she drove out of

15:51

there. So I'm pretty sure that bears back in his mind.

15:53

There's nobody. It's like a it's like

15:55

a it's like a it's weird. It's like a Easter egg. Like,

15:58

nobody ever said, like, hey. You

16:00

went back in the we didn't see the bear of the Buckhouse.

16:02

Where is the bear of the

16:03

truck? Like, where is is the bear walking

16:05

there? Like

16:06

I think that means Colby's has the bear, dude.

16:08

I think that means Colby held onto the bear.

16:10

Dan, before I do lowered

16:13

the conversation bar by bringing the bear and

16:15

the throttle into it, you were

16:17

actually hitting on like an interesting point

16:20

you both were, which is about relationships

16:23

that, you know, or

16:25

maybe don't they're not

16:28

right for everyone, but they're really right for

16:30

that person. So, for example,

16:32

like Jeff, I was thinking about, of course,

16:35

you know, there's this whole Mia and Emily

16:37

thing. Right? And I felt like with

16:40

what Jimmy had with Mia

16:43

was so special. Right?

16:45

But it was one of those times in life

16:48

where what they wanted and the circumstances

16:50

of life were taking them in different

16:52

direction think at the end of the day,

16:54

Jimmy and Mia really didn't have chance

16:56

because Jimmy was ordered by his boss

16:59

to leave this state. You know,

17:01

like, it's long distance relationships are

17:03

incredibly difficult, punishingly difficult.

17:05

Jimmy doesn't really he didn't have much control

17:07

control over his own fate. Mia

17:09

certainly doesn't have a lot of control over

17:11

Jimmy's fate. So it feels like circumstances pulled

17:14

them apart. And then meeting Emily, it

17:16

felt like that was the first time in his life that he

17:18

actually had he got to make some decisions.

17:20

He got to make some choices. He

17:22

got to sort of you

17:25

know, be in the the driver's seat and have

17:27

some agency in his life, which I think is very

17:29

empowering. I think that's a very

17:31

empowering feeling to feel as though you're making

17:33

your own choices. Because Mia pursued

17:35

Jimmy from the beginning of their relationship. You

17:38

know, and Jimmy did a lot of choices there either.

17:40

I think he was really into it, but she kinda

17:42

came up to him at a rodeo and

17:44

hit on him. You know, it she

17:46

really was was making the call which is

17:48

intoxicating in its own way. But think

17:50

for Jimmy to actually get any

17:53

sense of control, any sense

17:55

agency in his own life, it

17:58

makes a lot of sense to me that that is a

18:00

powerful

18:02

a powerful factor in driving people

18:04

together, you know? And I think it's interesting

18:07

too, like speaking on that, like, you know,

18:09

I think with Mia, it

18:11

also became a good break between

18:13

kind of the rough and tumbleness of the

18:15

bunkhouse, but just giving a little bit of different

18:18

energy something that's trying to

18:20

let you see that you can be empowered. But

18:22

because of your circumstance that

18:24

you're in, you it's impossible to act on

18:26

that. And then, of course, when you get to Texas,

18:29

you're in an entirely different environment where

18:31

you have the opportunity to a certain

18:33

degree to become a little bit

18:35

more empowered independently. And now you

18:37

can kinda start to see what

18:41

Mia saw in you before you saw

18:43

it, but now the circus says are different. I

18:45

think, Jen, what you were saying that sometimes

18:48

the person that you end up ultimately ending

18:50

up with in life is not necessarily the

18:52

person that you fell so deeply

18:54

in love with it and imagined, but it was somebody

18:56

that in deep circumstances and you learned that

18:59

type of love. But there's so many different versions of

19:01

love. Right? I think that we always just think

19:03

that love is just a blanket thing. Like,

19:05

love is love. And there's so many different versions. There's

19:07

loving in a situation and a circumstance. To

19:10

pay on your social and economic standings.

19:12

Like, it's so I think it's so multilayered

19:14

and leveled and very complicated. And

19:17

I think what what's interesting about this show

19:19

in, I think, essentially, in in general, it's like, art does

19:21

imitate life. Right? And so

19:23

for us, is is individuals we've

19:25

all been in love with somebody that

19:27

we thought that, you know, we can

19:29

never imagine a life without them. And

19:32

so, naturally, we thought we're good.

19:34

And then something happens, and then

19:36

all of a sudden that person's done, and you're like,

19:39

okay. Well, now what? And then

19:41

you go and you follow-up with somebody else, and you're like, okay,

19:43

damn. So it's this notion that it's like, yes, you can

19:45

be in love, but that doesn't mean that if

19:47

something goes wrong that you can't be in love with somebody

19:49

else and love a different version

19:51

because as we're

19:52

growing, we're getting older, and we have different

19:54

versions of ourselves. Yeah. There's

19:56

very much a, like, right person wrong

19:59

time -- Yeah. -- wrong person, right

20:01

time. And a relationship we've seen

20:03

go through that whole spectrum is Beth

20:05

and Rip. We've seen Beth and Rip

20:07

at a time when they couldn't. Like,

20:09

they maybe had a sort of connection

20:12

to each other that they didn't quite understand, but

20:14

it wasn't the right time for them to

20:16

explore that intimacy. It

20:18

wasn't the right time for them to sort of partner

20:20

and we've seen them over the course of the show.

20:23

Like, It was it was maybe the right person

20:25

from the beginning, but it took them

20:28

decades to find the right

20:30

time, you know. And it was just that

20:32

circumstances kept them

20:33

together. There are these things,

20:35

though, if we look back in it that they share,

20:37

that, like, that Rip

20:39

is always going to want you

20:41

know, cowboying is always gonna come first

20:44

for him on some level. Right? There's a

20:46

freedom there and we've talked about that a lot on

20:48

the show and there's something about Beth that

20:50

will forever remain sort of

20:52

wild. And so

20:55

those two things sort of match together.

20:57

And I I was hearing

21:00

some version of the thing that she said

21:02

about all she really wants is, you

21:04

know, a little house with,

21:07

like, a little pasture that

21:09

is, like, just her own or whatever

21:11

that that the big expanse

21:13

is too much for her and there was And there's

21:15

something about the Rip character that feels

21:18

very much like that is true for him as well.

21:20

You know, this is a guy who doesn't

21:23

wanna take over the yellowstone ranch.

21:25

There's never been an inkling of that that

21:27

he just wants to

21:29

serve

21:31

if that makes sense. There's a there's

21:33

a simpleness in both their

21:35

aspirations. But

21:37

and I think what's interesting too is, like,

21:40

the question that you asked her is that, you know how, like,

21:43

we'll be on set sometimes and, like, these kinda

21:45

these hectic weeks or a month of this tactic.

21:47

We're, like, you know what we're gonna do when we wrap.

21:50

We're gonna go to an island for three

21:52

weeks. We're gonna turn off our phones,

21:54

and we're just gonna be present. And in

21:56

the moment we wrap, we're like, what show do

21:58

we get on? What do we do? We gotta work.

22:00

So there's always a part of me that I

22:03

I wonder, like, Can

22:05

Beth actually just do a small house?

22:08

And, you know, with a little pasture, can

22:10

Rip, you know, just wake up at

22:12

nine AM you know, pour a coffee

22:14

and just sit on the porch. Like, can you do that?

22:17

Or is it just kind of a fun

22:19

thing to talk

22:20

about? I think that's fascinating.

22:22

I think you're so right. I think Rip could

22:24

do it. I don't think Beth could

22:26

do it. When Beth said that on the show, I was

22:28

like, I believe that Beth feels

22:30

that way right now. But I think

22:33

she would be itching. She would

22:35

be itching to get back in the board

22:37

to get back on a

22:38

plane. I think she would be itching to get

22:40

back in the ass. I wanna throw like,

22:42

I I think you guys are right, but I just wanna,

22:45

like, play devil's advocate here a little

22:47

bit. And just because this is

22:49

a character as well who has

22:53

like, cannot shake the grief

22:55

and rage that she feels over

22:57

being robbed of being a mother.

23:00

Right? Mhmm. And I'm

23:03

wondering if she,

23:07

like, was able to have kids,

23:09

you know, if if

23:11

actually, like the raising of

23:14

that child and

23:16

pouring all of that energy into that

23:18

would be the thing that would sort of

23:21

ground her and and because

23:23

so many some of Beth's impulses

23:26

to, like, get out there and do things and whatnot,

23:29

it doesn't feel just like it comes

23:31

from drive. It feels

23:34

sometimes like it comes from deep, a

23:36

deeply unsettled place, you know,

23:39

from her mother passing, from

23:41

the loss of her ability to have kids. You

23:44

know, there's a version of Beth

23:46

that I see, like, with a more

23:48

less traumatizing childhood where it's like,

23:51

yeah, it almost I

23:53

could see a version of her that feels a little bit

23:55

more, like, Helen Miron's character

23:58

in twenty three. Mhmm. You know, which is

24:00

still wild and filled with Independence

24:02

and

24:02

Adventure, but also more

24:05

rooted in in in a life like that.

24:08

Yeah. That's

24:10

a fascinating point. And also,

24:12

you know, that that beast

24:14

in her, that tornado in her

24:17

simmering underneath the surface, should

24:19

it be called upon because as we

24:22

see in nineteen twenty

24:23

three, you know, she's got

24:25

a she's got that dog in her too

24:27

when the time comes, when

24:29

it needs to to wake up and and

24:31

bark and bite a little. You guys,

24:33

we're gonna we're gonna take a quick break,

24:35

but when we come back, we're gonna talk

24:37

more about our favorite relationships in the

24:40

Yellowstone universe. And maybe some

24:42

of our relationships in our own personal lives.

24:46

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24:47

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26:43

a hawk developed because I'm

26:45

really enjoying nineteen twenty three's Spencer

26:47

in Alexandria. That's a fascinating God.

26:50

They found each other in the middle of nowhere.

26:52

That might be a true star crossed

26:54

lover's situation because they found

26:57

themselves sort of they found each other kind

26:59

of against all odds. Like,

27:01

on safari, she

27:03

was engaged to be married.

27:06

He was chasing this

27:08

death drive, like sort of

27:10

trying to get himself run over by

27:12

a rhinocerist. It's

27:15

amazing that they found each other. And in each other,

27:17

they this kind of redemption. I think that's a bit

27:19

of a death and rip situation too. It's

27:21

it's a it's a different kind

27:24

of connection and a different

27:26

sort of they're at a different chapter in

27:28

their

27:28

lives, but I I really think that's an amazing

27:30

sort of star crossed lover's relationship.

27:33

I feel like Taylor's writing about that relationship

27:35

that maybe we haven't seen yet

27:37

in the sense of when you know you know.

27:40

mean, there was nothing about Spencer that

27:43

was even looking for relationship

27:45

or or wanting one.

27:47

And it and and it's it's that

27:49

story of when when that thing walks

27:51

into your life no matter how much you don't

27:54

want it, That's it.

27:56

You just know, and that's what it feels like.

27:58

He was really looking for the

28:00

opposite.

28:00

You know, if love is life, it really

28:02

sounds like he was chasing his own death

28:05

and, you know, his life, a life,

28:07

a different life, a different path walked

28:10

in Oh. And now he's he's

28:12

down a completely different path. Oh, Spencer.

28:14

I know. So just watch We spent a lot

28:16

of time we spent a lot of time on

28:18

this podcast

28:19

talking about The big

28:22

man Spencer Dunn. He he's

28:24

he's an icon. Yeah. He's

28:26

an icon because of the way he's written and he's an

28:28

icon because of the way he's portrayed. Between

28:31

season four and season five, your

28:33

life changed a lot. Do

28:35

you wanna talk a little bit about where

28:37

you live now and what how your life looks

28:40

different than it did before?

28:42

Yeah. Yeah. I was living in Orange County,

28:44

and now I live in Butzada. Which is

28:46

in sub Saharan Africa, which

28:49

is where I'm doing this podcast. So

28:51

clearly, that means that there's Internet. And

28:53

as you guys can see, the letters, electricity,

28:56

and, you know, wow. What a surprise.

28:59

It's funny when people are like, running

29:01

water. It's like, yeah, guys. I'm I'm fine.

29:03

But, you know, it's it's import it was important

29:06

for me. And I think that, you know, with the world being

29:08

more interconnected, with

29:10

with different opportunities for Zoom.

29:12

There's planes go everywhere. You

29:15

know, you can be I could be in Los Angeles if

29:17

I needed to within twenty hours. You

29:19

know, so I think that at a certain point, you

29:21

have to kind of figure out, like, what you wanna do with

29:23

your life, what you want your life to look like. If

29:25

you wanna have a family, what does that family structure

29:27

look like? It just kinda just do it.

29:29

And at the end of the day, like, as we all know,

29:32

the production and being able to do this up is such

29:34

a blessing. But also with that,

29:36

like, at any given moment, things to just

29:38

change. And then you sit there and you ask yourself,

29:40

what the hell did I like, what was I doing?

29:43

Did I get anything done in this court in

29:45

the course of this time? Or did I build

29:47

a life that I always wanted to

29:48

live, or did I live a life that everybody else wanted

29:50

me to live?

29:51

That's awesome. You guys, I know our our listeners

29:53

are gonna be disappointed if we don't talk about our on

29:55

set relationship stuff and just are dynamic

29:58

with each

29:58

other. Be will that be it? They

30:00

will be it because I've and I I don't know if

30:02

we've, like I'm sure we've painted this on the podcast

30:05

before, but They see

30:07

us on camera having fun,

30:09

playing poker, do you know,

30:11

doing all the things that we do. And

30:14

I feel like we do a lot of that stuff

30:17

in to varying degrees off

30:18

camera, whether it's in between taste or in our

30:20

free time. I think that's why we're not talking

30:23

about as much as we kinda, like, do lot

30:25

of the stuff that we do on screen, off screen.

30:28

Like so I think maybe that's the

30:30

reason why we're not diving deep down because

30:32

we we spend time together, we go out to

30:34

dinner together, some of us gym together,

30:36

we play poker, we, you know, we go

30:38

to music events, rodeos, Like,

30:41

all the stuff, the dynamics that we do

30:44

on the camera, lot of the stuff that we

30:46

do outside of it. The difference is there's

30:48

just not six hundred people you

30:50

know, they're filming us

30:52

while we're doing it. Do you guys

30:54

have any favorite memories from on

30:57

set or off set hangs from

30:59

the last four or five years?

31:01

Uh-huh. I think season one, we went bowling,

31:03

and Wes Bentley got so mad

31:05

because he lost him bowling. That he left.

31:09

He didn't leave. He didn't. He just

31:11

left. He didn't leave. It was like it was like one

31:13

of our first big group hangs as a cast

31:15

and it's everybody We keeping the biker

31:17

good. No. No. No. West got in his

31:19

car and fucking one. And, you know, it's hard

31:21

in bowling. The theme that's such a bowling

31:23

is it's like it's only you. So

31:25

then, like, naturally, as a competitor, I'm

31:28

like, I want everyone to fail. But then when

31:30

you see the way that somebody's gonna take

31:31

you, like, I really hope they get a strike. Like,

31:33

I really hope that it goes

31:36

well for them. And then would you like to

31:38

let somebody win in bowling? Right. I think

31:40

I just do I'm just like, I can't

31:42

make the ball. It not go into the

31:44

gutter. don't know. We're all sitting there like

31:46

just like praying, try to

31:48

manifest. Wes getting a strike.

31:51

That was so funny. It was a big Because

31:53

Wes is a really good athlete He's

31:55

an He takes everything very seriously. He's

31:58

an incredibly pleasant, very smart guy,

32:00

and we all of us have our days,

32:03

not where we're you Bad

32:05

roles away from

32:07

Yeah. That's

32:08

you bad. Got her roles away

32:10

from me. I mean, I think we've had you

32:12

know, I think some of the events you know, that

32:14

we've been able to go to together. Like, I think

32:16

one of the things exciting, you know, when we took a year

32:18

off of Yellowstone, and then we all kinda

32:20

came back, you know, for a cowboy camp. You know,

32:22

I think that was nice. Just to kinda

32:24

reconnect again. I think sometimes that

32:26

is just like, man, we're like we're here. Like, we're

32:28

doing it again. Like, we didn't know we didn't know

32:31

that we're gonna get the opportunity to come

32:33

back. And, you know, here we are. So I think it's always

32:35

just exciting when we finally get that opportunity

32:37

to do so.

32:39

I wasn't there. Yeah.

32:41

That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying was a highlight.

32:44

Yeah. That's the you just that's the one

32:46

time I wasn't there. Jen,

32:49

what do you got? Favorite member is

32:51

Oh. We have to both be in them. We

32:53

have to both Yeah. We

32:54

have to also be in the member. I think we can I think

32:57

for the

32:57

I know? I know. I know. But honestly, they're gonna

32:59

act as though They're gonna exist at different listen,

33:02

they're gonna exist at different times because I think

33:05

honestly, one of them

33:07

there was a hike that we took looking

33:10

for some berries. Jeff, you were there, denim,

33:12

you were not there. Denim

33:14

you were, like, home or something. You had

33:16

left.

33:18

That sounds pretty accurate.

33:20

But we went hiking for some berries.

33:24

And and we were looking for the Huckleberries that

33:26

we never find, which I don't even

33:28

think are that hard to find, but we never find them as

33:30

a group. There was There's a small group of us,

33:32

and Dana, my favorite,

33:35

like, offset stuff with you

33:37

has always revolved around our

33:39

obsession with health. Health set

33:42

You know, like, the the insane conversations

33:45

that we have in the aisles of health food

33:47

stores and also the time that

33:50

you and Ian let me work

33:52

out with you guys.

33:54

Oh, yeah. I really

33:54

that was sweet. Now that was

33:56

nice. I really enjoyed you guys were really nice

33:58

about that. You were incredibly sweet about that.

34:01

No. I think the but like I think, I think it's important

34:03

for the audience to know, like, you

34:05

know, as much as we are

34:07

acting on, you know, camera that we

34:09

actually do spend time time with one another.

34:12

And that, you know, we are highly impacted

34:14

by our relationships that we have. Because,

34:16

like, Jeff, like you were saying, when you're in

34:18

that world, you know, in Montana, and

34:20

it's very because it's so small. And

34:22

because we've been very blessed that the show has gotten

34:25

so big, though there's not that many

34:27

places you can go and you kinda get that

34:29

offer uniti to kinda bond with one another. It's

34:31

not the same thing as be in New York or LA

34:33

Chicago, Florida, where you can kinda

34:35

just get lost in all of these other things

34:37

that are going on. And I think that

34:40

I think that our relationships on

34:42

off camera really resonate on

34:44

camera. I don't think they were really happy to do that much

34:46

acting. Think we're just in the moment. think

34:48

sometimes we're just saying the words we happen to be saying

34:50

the words in a bunkhouse or saying the

34:52

words, you know, on a horse. But

34:54

think it's a it's a beautiful thing. The relationship that

34:56

we built on this

34:57

show. Yeah. D d likes our friendship

34:59

so much that he moved continent. Yeah.

35:02

I left. I wanted to make sure

35:04

that I ran into people so I got

35:06

on a flight and left the

35:07

country. Yeah.

35:08

Exactly. He loved the time we spent together so

35:10

much that he got as far away as far

35:12

as As far away from boss. You said you

35:14

said earlier, you were like, you know, I can be in LA

35:16

within twenty hours. And I was like, bro, isn't

35:18

it, like, exactly a twenty hour

35:20

flight?

35:20

Yeah. What you mean?

35:21

Like, I can be there in twenty hours. We have one hundred

35:23

percent. Like, I really have to think about it. I gotta

35:25

really well, the great thing about being here is,

35:28

like, nobody's just in the neighborhood. Like,

35:30

nobody's just like, oh, yeah. Hey. Like, I was just

35:32

in Botswana and I'm

35:33

like, no, you

35:33

are.

35:34

Like, so you gotta kinda tell people I

35:36

was coming through. I'm just pop in the Yeah.

35:39

Didn't we all decide we're going to butts wanted

35:41

to hang out at Denim since there's there's

35:43

such a conflict between every

35:45

time we shoot

35:46

seasons. We're like, well, mine is we'll just

35:48

After every season, we've also said that

35:50

we're gonna go on some magical vacation with

35:52

all of us, and they were like, yeah, we're gonna do that.

35:54

And then we leave. But you guys say, here's

35:57

the reality. The good thing is

35:59

I'll be here. And so

36:01

anytime you guys would like to come to Botswana,

36:04

I'll be able to host you. We're doing a lot of exciting

36:06

things, you know, with my my

36:08

company here. So

36:11

yeah. So anytime you guys wanna talk, it would

36:13

be it would a blessing.

36:14

Thank you so much for joining

36:17

us today.

36:17

Thanks, Steve. Always an

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