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Welcome back to the official show Yellowstone

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Podcast. I'm Jefferson White. I am joined

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as always by Jen

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Landon, and we have a fun show

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on tap for you today. With a guest

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that we've been talking about for

0:19

the past couple episodes. Yeah,

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Jeff. I I don't know if

0:23

I could be more excited than I am about today's

0:25

episode, and I feel like we all

0:27

have crushes on

0:30

our guests that we're gonna be speaking to

0:31

soon. Which is the amazing Brandon

0:34

Sklar who plays Spencer

0:36

Dutton. Yeah. He it

0:38

took him six months.

0:41

He had to cross several oceans and

0:43

now we've got him in the studio today.

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I am so excited to talk with

0:48

Brandon. He's one of my favorite actors

0:50

in nineteen twenty three. It's one of my favorite characters

0:52

in nineteen twenty three. And, like, we've been

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now. I'm a huge, huge fan of this show, and I can't wait

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Okay. So I'm really excited to talk to Brandon

1:56

in a little bit, but The last time you

1:58

and I spoke, Jeff, we were on episode

2:01

four. And a lot

2:03

has happened since then. So

2:05

home the home that

2:07

that the Spencer character is returning to

2:10

looks very different

2:12

than it did, well, let's say at the beginning of episode

2:14

four, certainly. Yeah. It's it's

2:16

been it's been a transformative season

2:19

for the Dutton Ranch itself. You know,

2:21

Spencer's been on this epic journey

2:23

all around the world trying to reach home.

2:26

And and the real question is, is there

2:28

gonna be anything left by the time he gets

2:30

there? Right. So when we last spoke about

2:32

nine eighteen twenty

2:33

three, Jacob had

2:35

been shot. Dutton had been

2:38

killed. It was a really, like,

2:40

low moment for the ranch. Does

2:43

is is Spencer aware that his

2:45

brother has been shot and killed in that

2:47

letter? I can't remember. I

2:49

don't think so. I think Oh, yes. He

2:51

Right? He is aware that's right. Alex

2:54

reads in that

2:54

letter.

2:55

Yeah. Yeah. And and that's it feels like what

2:57

is the final straw that summons

2:59

him home. Right. He feels like he's been resisting

3:01

coming home. Cara's been sort

3:03

of trying to get in touch with them, and then it

3:05

feels like this pack. This sort of

3:08

savage attack on the Dutton and

3:10

his family is

3:12

is what finally spurs

3:14

him into motion to

3:16

head home. Jacob is wounded. Jack

3:18

is like bloodthirsty that

3:21

the the journey that Jack has been on

3:23

fascinating, and I get it. Right? His

3:25

his father was killed. His

3:28

mother dies. He is

3:30

on this kind of this personal.

3:33

He he he seems and and Kara says this

3:35

to him over and over again. Like, you know, your vision you

3:37

you've gotta come back to reality.

3:39

This sort of revenge fantasy. This

3:42

like blood thirst that you're feeling is

3:44

not what we need. This is not constructive.

3:48

It's a kind of maze that he's

3:50

lost in. And then there's this beautiful moment

3:52

when he finally sort of behaves

3:54

clear because Elizabeth

3:57

his his fiance is gonna leave

3:59

him. She says, alright, get me out of here. If you're

4:01

if all you are is a killer, if all

4:03

you can think about is revenge, then we're done,

4:06

and that's the sort of final straw

4:09

that thankfully pierces through

4:11

that fugue state he's in so

4:13

he comes back to reality and accepts

4:16

his responsibility. You know,

4:18

it really he has his own version. We've

4:20

seen Spencer struggle with this death

4:22

drive, this kind of in

4:25

the wake of the the tragedy that

4:27

Spencer has witnessed and faced, he's

4:29

been almost trying to get himself killed

4:31

big game hunting. We've seen Jack experience

4:34

his own version of the same thing. In the

4:36

wake of the death of his father,

4:38

you know, Jacob being shot, feeling

4:41

so helpless and impotent, We

4:43

almost see him driving towards his own

4:45

death senselessly. And it makes

4:47

me think of a moment where that a a thing

4:49

that rips says to Jimmy in, like, season

4:51

two of Yellowstone. Jimmy

4:54

wants to just get up and go and attack

4:56

the man that killed his grandfather

4:58

rips, like, no. No. No. I'm gonna show you

5:01

how to get rid of problems so they

5:03

don't become bigger problems. And

5:05

it feels this whole time like Cara is saying, Jack,

5:08

calm down. We've got to be

5:10

logical. We have to take care of this

5:12

in a way that isn't gonna create a bigger

5:15

issue for us or kick the horn at its

5:17

nest. We have to do this the right

5:19

way or they are

5:21

gonna win. If we if we

5:23

rise to this drive

5:25

for revenge, we're gonna be overpowered

5:28

and killed. That's not gonna work. That

5:30

tactic isn't valid.

5:33

On that front, and again, we

5:35

can ask Brandon this, but do we

5:37

think that Spencers motivation

5:40

for coming home is to

5:42

take care of his family, protect his

5:44

family, or this vengeance

5:47

that seems to kind of permeate

5:50

through the Dutton

5:50

line? That's a great question. And bet it

5:53

I bet it's that that motive

5:55

is changing over time as he himself

5:57

kind of comes back to life

5:59

in his love for Alex. You know,

6:02

like, we've seen his death

6:04

drive evolve. We've

6:06

seen him sort of wake up in

6:08

some ways to the possibilities of

6:10

life, the sort of beauty of life through

6:13

this epic journey he's having alongside

6:16

Alex, which is another to me,

6:18

I gotta say another sort of rip and

6:20

Casey parallel, these characters who have

6:23

been sort of taken all the way up to the edge

6:25

of despair, been taken all the way up

6:27

to the edge. Of the sort of cliff

6:30

of misery and are brought

6:32

back to life by the women they love,

6:34

by their families, by a

6:36

sort of sense of responsibility to the

6:38

people they love. I feel like we've watched

6:41

Spencer go through that journey and we've watched

6:43

Jack go through that journey. And even

6:45

Jacob, even Jacob is listening

6:47

to Kara and sort of tempering his own

6:50

desire for revenge, his own

6:52

desire. To sort of

6:55

kick back at at the men

6:57

that that were that wronged

6:59

him. Cara really feels like the mediating

7:01

impulse in all of it. Yeah. Basically,

7:03

what Taylor's writing over and over again is that

7:05

all men would just be

7:08

deaf, essentially, if

7:10

there weren't women around to say, honey,

7:13

chill out, have a drink, whatever

7:15

you need, soften the heart,

7:17

you know, Don't kill

7:18

yourself. I think that's right. And, Kara says,

7:20

I think, Kara says to to banner himself.

7:23

She says, men kill

7:25

quickly. You're gonna wish

7:29

that it was that easy. Mhmm. Women kill

7:31

slowly. And it it seems really clear

7:33

to me that Kara's not It's not that

7:35

she doesn't want vengeance. She wants vengeance

7:37

as much as anybody else. Right?

7:39

She her husband was

7:43

shot right in front of her. Her her

7:45

nephew was killed. Like, there's

7:48

she's suffered as much as anybody

7:50

else as a result of this attack. So

7:52

she wants vengeance, she just wants it in

7:54

a sort of methodical

7:56

calculated way that's gonna last.

7:58

Howard Bauchner: Right,

8:00

so that so that protection is

8:03

still, like, maybe her bigger

8:05

motive

8:05

-- In the long run, that it might be

8:08

deadlier for

8:10

to everybody else who is her

8:12

enemy, but that it's primary

8:14

motivators and fungents. But Yeah. We've we've

8:16

seen this across all of these shows. You know, if you

8:18

take justice into your own hands, you're cutting off

8:20

hydroheads, but two more grow back. You

8:23

know, every sort of enemy that John

8:25

Dutton has struck down in yellow stone.

8:28

They tend to come back more with

8:30

new weapons, with new sort of forms,

8:32

you know. Rip kills what's

8:34

his name? Oh, this is the ultimate. The ultimate

8:37

affiliation is I've forgotten his name, Rourke.

8:39

He kills Rourke in the river with the snake.

8:41

What happens? A bigger batter

8:44

snake shows up on a plane from New York

8:46

City. Right? You take justice into

8:48

your own hands. You don't build

8:50

sustainable lasting solutions. So

8:52

part of what Kara is doing here is saying, no. No.

8:54

No. Don't just get on a horse and go shoot some more,

8:57

then they're gonna hire more guys. They're gonna

8:59

come back over here and they're gonna kill more of us.

9:01

She's saying let's do this right let's

9:03

do this, you know, legally.

9:06

Let's bring these institutions into

9:10

this justice such that it lasts

9:12

and perseveres so that, you know, the

9:14

next time she turns her head, she's not losing

9:16

another precious member of her family.

9:19

And, you know, who better to

9:21

help than Spencer Dutton.

9:24

Right? Spencer has you know, what about I'm

9:26

amazed by Spencer because he's got this kind cool

9:29

logic to him even while he is

9:31

unincredible and listen,

9:34

my man can kill. He's got

9:37

that dog in him. He has killed

9:39

pretty much every zoo animal. He's

9:41

killed all my favorite zoo animals

9:44

so far. Out of necessity, with

9:46

with respect fact out of necessity, but

9:48

he also has this kind of cool methodical

9:50

head. In these moments, you know, when they're stuck

9:53

on the capsized tub boat, and

9:55

you know, Alex, you know, that that, like, exposure

9:58

kills you on in the middle of the ocean real

10:00

quick. You got the sun being down

10:02

on year dehydrated. He stays cool.

10:04

He stays methodical. He's a survivor.

10:07

He's exactly the soldier that Karen

10:09

needs. Needs. So obviously, Spencer, you know,

10:11

the the this this vital soldier

10:13

in the Dutton effort to to keep their ranches

10:15

headed home. And he's heading

10:17

home to face a multitude of

10:20

threats. One of my favorite parts

10:22

of nineteen twenty three has been this

10:24

really interest in cool villains. You

10:27

know, we've seen Donald Whitfield.

10:29

Right? This kind of big business

10:32

robber baron almost sort

10:35

of circling, representing one

10:37

side of this equation that will,

10:39

of course, play out again in Yellowstone representing

10:42

big money representing industry,

10:45

representing the desire to sort of

10:47

pillage this land to

10:50

to to pull resources out of

10:52

it, but then we also one of my favorite

10:55

characters on this show who I'm just absolutely

10:57

obsessed with because I love actor two is Banner.

11:00

Right? Jerome Flynn's character, Banner

11:02

proneton because I love seeing

11:04

him sort of go through this journey starting

11:07

out as basically a

11:10

sheep herter who is in a

11:12

desperate position. Somebody with very

11:14

little one of many sheep herders.

11:17

Sort of having to make this desperate play,

11:20

banding together his

11:22

sort of compatriots and attacking

11:25

the Dutton. The most powerful richest

11:28

institution in the valley, attacking

11:30

them, and in doing so,

11:32

also enriching himself immensely

11:34

I love the team up. I

11:37

really do love the team up of Donald

11:39

and Banner because they represent these two

11:41

completely different sides of the coin It's

11:43

such a funny odd couple. And

11:45

I I could endlessly watch

11:48

Banner sort of walk through his brand new

11:50

house turning on the faucets drinking

11:52

champagne, experiencing the

11:55

other side of his life. You know, we're watching all

11:57

these characters part of the know, one

11:59

of the big kind of themes of the show is modernity,

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the steady march of modernity. There's

12:04

all these questions about, wait, is the railroad coming?

12:06

Is electricity coming? Is plumbing coming?washing

12:09

machines? Obviously, I

12:11

get so excited about this stuff. I could talk about

12:13

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You know, we get gift of talking a lot

14:48

of our friends on this show. We get the gift talking

14:50

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14:52

Jen and I feel incredibly lucky to talk to

14:54

an actor that we're just fans of.

14:57

We've we've both been watching nineteen twenty

14:59

three. We've been gushing to you

15:01

this audience about it for weeks. And

15:05

perhaps no character more than

15:07

Spencer Dutton. So we feel incredibly

15:10

lucky to have with us today, an

15:12

actor whom we admire very

15:13

much. Brandon's Glenar, thank you so much

15:15

for being here, man. Yeah.

15:17

Of course, man. Happy to be here. Brandon,

15:20

I'm just gonna start at the very beginning. Like,

15:22

what can

15:24

you just tell us a little bit about

15:26

how this, like, role

15:28

came to you, what that audition

15:31

process was like, Had you

15:33

seen yellowstone before, etcetera?

15:36

Yeah. Yeah. I

15:39

I

15:40

I've been wanting to work with Taylor

15:42

for a long time,

15:44

a really long time since I saw

15:46

LRI water years ago and he was kinda

15:48

at the top of my top

15:51

of my list in terms of filmmakers

15:54

and creators and and

15:56

my manager called me and he was like, hey, that

15:58

nineteen twenty three project you've been tracking

16:01

for a while.

16:04

They wanna read you Pappadero. John Pappadero

16:06

is a cast director on there. He's a he's a good friend

16:08

and he's he's cast me in, I

16:10

think, four or five projects and he's like,

16:12

fastest Dutton it, and he

16:14

got a role for you. And I was like, oh, shit.

16:16

Okay. So he sent

16:19

it over, and Yeah. And

16:21

I I just immediately resonated

16:24

with it just in the breakdown and on the page

16:26

and felt I felt good about

16:27

it, you know, I felt confident about it from the jumping.

16:29

Like I said, it just resonated with me in a way

16:32

that I hadn't really felt before with anything

16:34

I I'd come across or auditioned for

16:36

and It was it was honestly,

16:38

out of anything I've ever done, the the

16:40

quickest and most painless casting

16:44

process. It was so fast.

16:46

You know, sometimes these things drag out for

16:48

three or four months and you're just losing your

16:50

mind, you know. So it was

16:52

great. Yeah. Sometimes it's just right,

16:54

man. Jen and I were Marvel before you

16:56

got on and what exquisite

16:58

casting this is. It

17:01

it really is an incredible energetic

17:04

match. Will you talk a little bit about the

17:06

experience of of functionally sort

17:09

of going on this personal

17:11

journey, this kind of adventure?

17:14

Just their their creative process,

17:16

Taylor's creative process, and just this whole

17:18

sort of yellowstone universe

17:21

that he's created, and and I can't speak to any

17:23

of his other projects, but I imagine they're pretty similar.

17:26

I mean, they are so immersive and,

17:29

you know, in

17:31

terms of acting and and

17:33

having to create things for yourself

17:35

and then to be real, I mean, they they take

17:37

care of so much so many things for you. Just

17:39

just really throwing you on that. And my

17:42

my my personal journey as an actor and

17:44

as a person, mirrored Spencer's in so many

17:46

ways, just it's kinda eerie,

17:49

you know. And just

17:51

just being out there in Africa and

17:53

trying to make sense everything and you

17:56

know, being thrust into this role with all this responsibility

17:59

to carry this thing and and that

18:02

also mirroring his responsibility to

18:05

to you know, take care Alex and to get

18:07

home to his family and and,

18:10

you know, always being out of his element

18:12

but also at the same time always being in his

18:14

element, you know, he's so in his element

18:16

being out of his element, you know, he finds

18:18

comfort in the uncomfortable So

18:22

it's this weird paradox that I

18:24

definitely tapped into and

18:26

just, you know, live the entire

18:28

time myself. Do you think, like,

18:30

should this role have come into your life five years

18:33

ago that you would have

18:35

been at place

18:37

to, like, it would have been a

18:39

match then?

18:41

Or

18:41

do you think do you know what I mean?

18:43

I'm a I'm a firm believer in just

18:46

the divine timing of life and things

18:48

in general and and, you

18:50

know, III can pretty clearly

18:53

track the trajectory

18:56

of how things have evolved

18:58

based on where I was at personally and what

19:00

I was trying to do in in my personal

19:02

life. And, I mean, I

19:04

don't think that it could have happened

19:06

at any other time because I wouldn't have been in

19:08

a position to handle

19:11

it the way that I was able to and

19:13

bring that vibe

19:15

to Spencer that he needed at any other point

19:17

in my life if I was in my, you know,

19:20

mid twenties versus my early thirties

19:22

and having

19:24

gone through what I've gone through personally in the last

19:26

five years and got shift. And,

19:29

yeah, there's no way. There's just no way. And

19:31

I and I wouldn't have wanted it. It's a fascinating

19:33

yeah. And and you mentioned yourself you feel as though

19:36

working on the show has has changed

19:38

you. You've grown from working on the show.

19:40

By the time we find Spencer, when we

19:42

first find Spencer, he has

19:44

lived a long difficult life.

19:47

You know, he is a part of this generation

19:50

of young men who were

19:52

forced to age prematurely by

19:55

participating in the horror that

19:57

was World War one. Right? So he has

19:59

seen some shit at a young

20:01

age by the time we first find

20:03

him and he is so clearly haunted

20:06

by it. It's almost like he's after

20:08

his life. It's like his life is

20:10

over in some sense and he's almost hunting his

20:12

own death. It feels to me like doing

20:14

what he's He's going out there until

20:17

one of these fucking lions brings him down.

20:19

The only you know, he's almost looking for

20:21

the animal that's big enough to kill

20:23

him back. And then

20:26

over the course of these seven episodes,

20:29

it's an amazing gift

20:32

just watching this sort of life

20:34

come back into him in

20:36

part because of this relationship with

20:39

Alex. So will you just talk a little

20:41

about working with Julia? You

20:43

know, her she also is coming into

20:45

this with a tremendous amount of responsibility.

20:48

And I know from from being on set,

20:50

your greatest gift is each other, your greatest

20:52

talk about

20:53

immersive. Having done a

20:54

performance like that right across from you

20:57

is the greatest gift in the world. Will you talk about

20:59

your sort of shared process and

21:01

how you found these characters together?

21:04

Yeah. You know, that's

21:08

great that your all that from the

21:10

from the show because that was that

21:12

was all the intention. So I'm I'm I'm

21:14

I'm happy about that. That's great. Yeah.

21:18

You know, we we

21:21

we got really lucky, you know. It

21:23

tailored into a chemistry read

21:25

for for the role of Alex

21:28

at all. And neither of us have

21:30

really been in this position before in terms

21:32

of of a roll that

21:34

significant in a show that has such a

21:36

following and sort of this built in viewership

21:39

even though it's the first season

21:41

of you know, the the

21:43

show itself. There's so much going into it that

21:45

you know you're gonna have those eyes. And

21:47

I think we bonded in in in in a lot

21:49

of ways and especially in that way, you know,

21:51

just just sort of entering

21:54

this new arena in our careers and as

21:56

actors together and and

21:58

we were fortunate enough to get along really well

22:01

and just kind of have an instant

22:03

rapport. I

22:05

just the the echoes are so apparent.

22:07

Right? You're talking about your experience of working

22:09

on the show. Okay. I'm gonna leave my family behind.

22:11

I'm gonna leave my friends behind. I'm gonna go into

22:13

the middle of nowhere and put my trust.

22:16

In these other actors put

22:19

my trust in this crew, and that's very

22:21

much what the character's doing too. Right? He's in the

22:23

middle of fucking nowhere. Far

22:25

from everything he's ever known or loved,

22:27

and he he finds this person to

22:30

trust, which is such a

22:32

a fascinating journey to why. So you get

22:34

cast on a show starring Harrison Ford and

22:36

Helen Miran. And then all of a sudden,

22:38

your character's on the other side of the world.

22:40

What did you do so much of

22:43

the poll for spenser is getting home,

22:45

getting home to this life, this responsibility,

22:48

this duty. How did you

22:50

approach in your own

22:52

mind and imagination developing

22:54

a relationship to these characters that

22:56

you're not working with. You're on the

22:58

other side of the world what did you do

23:01

with those other, you know, that your

23:03

your your siblings on the show? The

23:05

these other characters so you have a rich relationship

23:08

to How did you build that bond with

23:10

Montana and the Dutton Ranch such

23:13

that we can feel Spencer's pain

23:15

being separated from it?

23:18

Yeah. No. III

23:21

it's a similar you know,

23:23

I did a similar thing with the war

23:26

just just, you know, you just build memory,

23:28

you know, and then just

23:30

meditating with them, sitting with them until

23:33

until they feel real. So he's

23:35

such an internal character

23:37

so, you know, you you

23:39

you gotta do that otherwise and just

23:41

there's nothing going on. We're gonna take

23:43

a break really quick. And when we come back,

23:45

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23:47

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23:48

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24:31

I'm gonna I I have a question that I need to

24:33

ask before I forget because I will forget and it is

24:35

a specific moment and we were talking a little

24:37

bit earlier about loading things

24:39

with memory. When the Julia character

24:43

makes the decision to

24:45

come after Spencer to come

24:47

after you and runs to the car and she

24:49

gets in the car and she she yells to him, find

24:51

somebody who loves you. You

24:55

got your you were emotional

24:59

in that moment. I remember noticing that,

25:01

and it was it really struck me.

25:04

And if I I don't know. I'm I don't

25:06

know if you remember that moment. I don't know if

25:08

you can talk a little bit about that.

25:12

It struck me because it felt very

25:14

much like something that was so

25:16

deeply tied to the character, but it

25:18

all so felt to me like something that was

25:20

tied that existed between like

25:23

that great thing that can happen with actors

25:25

where you're like I don't know. It

25:27

felt like it had both. It felt like it had the

25:29

actor's connection and the character's connection

25:31

in

25:32

it. It's tough. It's it's it's tough

25:34

to to delineate what's what's

25:36

a Spencer thing and what's a Brandon thing it

25:38

really is. Especially when you're when

25:40

you're in it, those lines are hard

25:42

to see. But I

25:44

I do I can speak from from

25:46

Spencer's point of view that,

25:48

you know, he he he's had such a such

25:51

a barrier for such a long

25:53

time. I mean, years and

25:55

years, such a strong barrier, and

25:58

no one's ever crossed that barrier. And I think

26:00

he's just overwhelmed by this person

26:02

he doesn't even know who's just so

26:05

see something in him to the point where where

26:07

where she's just, like, bare steam rolls

26:09

through that that fucking thing. So and

26:12

and it hits him hard. You know, this that

26:14

level of just blind faith.

26:17

And I wanna say love, but III

26:20

think it is love at that point even though it's still

26:22

early on. If you see something in him and I think it

26:24

just catches him off guard and it just hits

26:26

him right in the art, you know. Like, here's this person

26:28

who doesn't even know me and he doesn't think very

26:30

highly of himself. So I

26:33

think it just it just you know,

26:35

start to just fill this cup a little bit.

26:37

I think it's it's the first few drops in

26:39

that in that cup. You know, that's been empty for

26:41

a long time, and I think that's what it

26:43

is. One of the things that Jeff and

26:45

I experience on Yellowstone is that

26:47

the shoots can be a bit grueling

26:49

because we're often doing

26:52

what we're what it appears we're doing

26:54

or sometimes it feels

26:56

like we're shooting a dock and that's

26:59

part of what makes the job so great. And I was wondering

27:01

if there were days on the

27:03

show that stood out in your mind as like

27:06

a particularly adventurous shoot

27:08

day. Or

27:10

or a challenging one because so

27:12

many of the sequences that you're

27:14

in are beautiful and epic and

27:17

and riveting and I'm wondering

27:19

what was sort of the standouts for you?

27:23

Yeah. I mean, I'm just on

27:25

the swimming. Episode

27:28

six, all that swimming, man. That was

27:30

that was that was

27:32

top that was the only the toughest thing I've

27:34

done. On

27:37

a on a on a project hands down.

27:39

I mean, one of the toughest things I've done in general.

27:42

And I'm I'm I'm in pretty decent

27:44

shape and we swim a lot

27:46

going into that, and and

27:48

it was it was harder because the water was cold,

27:50

it was ocean water, and it was pretty chilly

27:53

outside, and Well,

27:55

what ends up being in the show as you guys know,

27:57

it's, you know, a few minutes in the show, but we

27:59

did it for four days. So you're you're

28:03

hey, I'm watching it and I'm like, oh, that's it.

28:05

It's all I put in. Yeah.

28:08

But it it's like, yeah. We were

28:10

we were you know, we

28:12

were out there and Guy Furland our director

28:15

I remember we'd we'd come in off the off

28:17

the water, and Julie and I would be

28:20

to, I mean, shaken to the to the

28:22

bones and, you

28:25

know, soaking wet in the

28:27

wind. I would be like, how

28:29

how old is it? I was like, god.

28:30

And he's like, oh, it's amazing, man.

28:32

You look like you're really struggling out there. I was like,

28:34

yeah, guy. Yeah. No.

28:38

No. We are. It's

28:41

yeah. That that that that

28:43

that was that was a trip. That was

28:45

that was great. I mean, it's it's you

28:48

know, they're they're tough days, but you love those days because

28:50

you don't have to do no acting, you know. And anytime

28:52

you can cut out the acting, It's great.

28:54

So I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

28:56

grateful for those

28:57

days. I love those days, but those were

28:59

those were hard days. Brandon, this is

29:02

not the most eyebrow

29:05

question. But because

29:08

everybody's obsessed with Indiana Jones and

29:10

Harrison Ford, and for whatever

29:12

reason. It's given me some Indiana

29:14

Jones webs. Has has anyone else said

29:16

this to you? Yeah.

29:19

No. I've I've heard a lot of the Indiana Jones

29:24

by comparison talks.

29:28

Yeah. It's it's you know, it's the same color

29:30

palette. Hey.

29:32

It's

29:33

more than that. Don't

29:34

it. It's more than that. You

29:36

know, Brandon, they tell me the same thing. I've been

29:38

dealing with this for five seasons now.

29:40

Everybody looks at me in says Indiana

29:42

Jones, you

29:43

know? Indiana Jones. Yeah. Yeah. You can

29:45

get sick of it. Right? It's kinda it gets

29:47

old being compared to one of the most iconic

29:50

characters and performances in his history.

29:53

Yeah. You know, take it away,

29:55

but it's it's a burden you gotta bear.

29:58

No. It's it's It's

30:01

it's a good Yeah. You

30:03

know, you hope to not get any comparisons,

30:06

but it's human nature to get comparisons, and

30:08

it's it's a hell of a Dutton, so I'll take it.

30:11

But yeah. It's it's I mean,

30:13

if I were I'd compare myself to it

30:16

as well. There's based on Harrison being

30:18

in the show. And then, like

30:20

like I said, the color palette is the same.

30:22

We both carry around the

30:23

well, India's and Carrier Rowpe. But

30:26

he used uses a whip. I

30:27

go the other direction. I was watching Indiana Jones

30:29

the other day and I was kinda like, damn. This is a bit of

30:31

a Spencer Dutton outfit.

30:33

Yeah. There you go. My man's kind of looking at my Spencer

30:36

Dutton Lane Lane.

30:37

Oh, we got the girls Spencer Dutton Vibes.

30:40

Spencer Dutton Vibes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

30:44

No. We haven't seen Spencer's whip

30:45

yet, but he's he's Swooning in that bag.

30:48

He's very resourceful, bro. Because you were also saying

30:50

You know, it's a dangerous journey home,

30:52

but also, let's be honest, home

30:54

is pretty fucking dangerous too.

30:56

The shit that's going down at the like, it's

30:58

I'm very excited. And listen, I don't know

31:01

what I don't know what happens after episode

31:03

seven. don't know what happens in episode

31:05

eight. I don't know what happens in I hope there's a million

31:07

more episodes to come. But I'm extremely

31:10

excited for the,

31:12

you know, to see Spencer Dutton

31:14

reunited god, you know, god willing

31:17

on the ranch putting these skills

31:19

to work. You

31:21

know, on on if he can if he

31:23

can kill an elephant, if he can kill a lion

31:25

and surely he can kill

31:27

these, like, scruffy sheep herding

31:30

guys. Right? Oh, yeah.

31:33

Yeah. I mean, I don't think that

31:35

there's really an obstacle that

31:37

he can't face. I mean, he

31:41

is one of the most capable characters. There

31:44

are, I think. Far

31:47

more capable than I am.

31:52

Yeah. No. I'm I'm

31:54

I'm excited for him to get back to the

31:56

range. Brandon.

32:00

Thanks so much, man. Honestly, we're just fans.

32:02

Yeah. It is unsurprising that

32:04

in real life, you're basically Dutton.

32:07

I I'm not surprised. And

32:09

so it is a it's a great honor to meet

32:11

you as a fan of your

32:12

work. A fan of the show. Thank you for taking

32:14

the time to talk with us. What a gift? Thanks,

32:16

man. appreciate that so much. Happy

32:18

you guys are digging it, and excited if

32:20

you wanna see the rest of

32:21

it. If you're

32:22

same. It's amazing and you really are incredible.

32:24

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32:25

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