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2:33

is the One Piece Podcast, episode 801 for

2:35

Monday, January 15th, 2024. My

2:42

name is Steve. And my name is Alex. And

2:45

we don't normally do this,

2:47

Alex and I. No, we don't. But

2:51

yeah, we're not forced to

2:53

watch 4Kids. No. And

2:56

this isn't any other podcast I've

2:58

done. No. Well,

3:02

Steve, you voluntarily watch 4Kids now. Yeah,

3:05

I do. We'll

3:10

take a more clever title, but I'll get

3:12

in the plugs later. But yeah, this is

3:14

our free... Free goals. Free goals. Free

3:17

goals. You still got the alliteration there. I

3:19

kind of like it. Everybody's free in parentheses

3:21

to watch 4Kids. And

3:23

we could use that song too. You don't have to pay the

3:26

license for it. No, of course not. So

3:28

wow, you really know it's an off week. But yeah, it

3:30

is an off week. If you happen to be listening this

3:32

week, first of all, thank you for tuning in. I know

3:34

there's no new manga chapter, but we got loads

3:37

of cool stuff on today's episode. But of course,

3:39

we're joined by our very special guest, Stephen Paul.

3:41

How's it going today, Stephen? It

3:44

is going well. So

3:48

a little preview. You

3:51

will hear there's an SGS on

3:54

this episode. And we're

3:56

also going to be doing volume 107. But

3:59

in my conversation... Greg I I

4:01

talked about my sleep schedule and

4:03

we we tuck little but Odis

4:05

sleep schedule. Ah and that was

4:07

like two weeks prior. A week

4:10

or two prior to when we

4:12

were talking. But

4:14

just today, ah I will. I

4:16

went to see, I went to

4:18

bed last night at about two

4:20

am and I woke up at

4:23

five because my wife had a

4:25

half marathon to run. Ah I'm

4:27

and now it is about over

4:29

twelve hours. Since then so I

4:31

am eyes I am loopy as

4:33

hell. We'll see what happens. This

4:35

is Rick already ah so Stevens

4:37

even be really funny or yes

4:39

gonna tell Alex I'd I'd rappers

4:41

the repetition of the yeah and

4:43

what kind of I got i

4:45

got asleep had about in the

4:47

of it you find out on

4:50

i do this one knows arc

4:52

of i also want introduce or

4:54

other guess I'm not only do

4:56

this one own it a shot

4:58

hop Alex shut off. Enough.

5:02

You could do it afterwards. And this week

5:05

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5:10

recap and all around sparred special boy.

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5:27

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5:29

the the enemy recap. Take that. Same

5:31

does. Ah

5:34

I see with the and this week we

5:36

have. Seen. We're

5:39

not on enough. He kind of says, you

5:41

know, He said. That he built the

5:43

up know you come from a really important voice. On.

5:46

Liver. Everyone's got their thing on the Americans.

5:49

Yeah, That's true, I

5:51

only jovial his beloved friend. Steve.

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5:56

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eyes and it has the least amount of

6:29

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6:31

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6:33

why it's so funny to me I think

6:35

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6:38

also odds Amazon or as well we're

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9:02

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9:04

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9:10

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9:13

meow, meow. Meow,

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9:18

up right from where we left off before

9:20

recording. Greg.

9:23

Greg, Greg. Good to be here. Good to be alive.

9:26

Happy New Year. Thank you. Happy

9:28

New Year to you. Yeah.

9:30

I know you were reassuring

9:34

people that you were fine

9:36

but it should be said

9:38

Fukui is pretty close to

9:40

Ishikawa Prefecture. Isn't

9:43

that correct? It's

9:45

directly next to it. We often go there

9:47

for Costco. Oh boy. And

9:51

we were just vacationing in

9:53

that peninsula. We went

9:55

there for the summer and a couple summers ago as

9:57

well. place.

10:01

Our car was parked in Ishikawa at the

10:05

airport there.

10:07

So we left Ishikawa and

10:18

then there was an earthquake and

10:20

then we left Haneda

10:23

Airport and 40 minutes

10:26

later there was the explosion that...

10:33

So my wife says that this

10:35

is all quote-unquote,

10:38

obviously it's a horrible, both horrible events,

10:40

but it is a quote-unquote good thing

10:43

for us because she

10:45

got daikichi at her yearly

10:48

fortune tellings. So

10:51

that's why we're okay. Wow. Thanks

10:54

to that. If you don't

10:56

know, there's a New Year's tradition over

10:58

in Japan. You go to a shrine

11:00

and you get a lottery. Yeah.

11:05

It tells you your fortune

11:07

for the year and she

11:09

got like ultra super lucky.

11:11

Wow. Yeah. That was my New

11:13

Year's adventure. I hope you had it somewhat more

11:16

down to earth. New Years?

11:19

Yeah. Yeah. I mean there was no

11:21

natural disasters happening, which was I guess

11:23

that's an improvement for sure. Although

11:27

I have been on just speaking of

11:30

one piece of stuff and I don't know if this

11:32

is actually really true anymore

11:34

because when he was talking

11:36

about this it was years and years ago, but

11:39

I definitely got a taste of

11:41

the quote-unquote ODA time, the ODA

11:43

schedule for a while where I

11:46

think there

11:49

was one week, maybe two

11:51

weeks ago or so, where

11:54

over the five week days I probably

11:56

totaled like less than 20 hours of

11:58

sleep. over

12:01

those five days, it was not fun. It was

12:03

not something that

12:05

I would want to do regularly. You

12:10

know, I asked him about that. I

12:12

once was like, you

12:14

wrote the schedule in the SBS. Is

12:17

it true? He's

12:20

like, yeah, it's absolutely true. It's

12:22

like, are you okay?

12:25

Yeah. He's

12:27

like, yeah, he's like, actually, it's no big

12:29

deal to me. He says, if I do

12:31

end up sleeping more than that, I

12:37

actually get headaches. So

12:39

this is actually my preferred schedule. All

12:43

right, okay. And

12:45

that was fairly recently that you asked him? Oh

12:48

yeah, that was, boy. I

12:51

mean, we're not talking like, more

12:53

than five years ago. This

12:55

was two, three years ago? Three years

12:57

ago, yeah. I'm

13:03

sorry to hear that. I hope it was all productive and

13:05

good for you. Yeah, well, I mean,

13:08

it was, you know, in

13:10

service of finishing deadlines and stuff.

13:13

But yeah, I've had

13:16

a, it's been a tough year or

13:18

two as far as like keeping to

13:20

my schedule and keeping up with it.

13:22

And it's definitely like, you know,

13:25

you feel your age a little bit. That's

13:28

why I'm a little surprised to hear that, that

13:30

Oda is still sticking to that, that

13:33

general amount of sleep, because

13:36

yeah, it's tough. Yeah.

13:40

I'm not cut out for it, but I do sleep less

13:42

than probably

13:46

the average person does. All

13:48

right, well, I'm sorry to hear that. That was rough

13:50

on you, but. I

13:53

do hope readers of all varieties can look

13:55

forward to what's coming down the pike. Yeah.

14:01

And speaking of readers

14:03

of all varieties, I think we have all

14:06

been quite

14:08

captivated by the

14:11

latest material in

14:13

one piece. Actually before we talk about the manga, I

14:16

did want to ask, it's

14:19

been a lot of news since the last time we recorded.

14:24

And I don't know where to start. There's been a

14:26

lot of anime specific stuff, but we

14:29

were just talking about this last week, in

14:32

particular, these new, I guess it's the

14:34

25th anniversary of the anime. Yeah,

14:38

that's right, because it was 99 to 2024. These

14:44

new theme songs that they've put out

14:47

with none other than Hiroshi

14:50

Kitadani and Maki Otsuki.

14:52

Yeah. And yeah,

14:55

now you said you had heard the opening

14:58

song. I've heard the opening. I've

15:00

heard and seen the opening. Right, right.

15:04

But not the end. I honestly,

15:07

here's my coming

15:09

out though, is I've

15:11

probably not seen a full episode of the

15:13

anime through in like

15:15

maybe four

15:18

or five years. But

15:22

I did check out the opening

15:26

specifically. And I

15:28

was, I mean, I know

15:30

I shared some thoughts privately with you previous

15:32

to this, but I was

15:36

blown away. It

15:38

felt super one piece-y to

15:40

me. Like easily

15:42

the most one piece feeling theme song

15:44

since. What

15:48

was it? I can't, what

15:50

conjugation of R was it? We

15:52

do. We go, I think. We

15:54

go. Yeah. Which

15:58

seems like, you know. Well,

16:01

of course it does. It's Keith and Donny, of course

16:03

it does. But even more, he did a recent one,

16:05

I think at the start of

16:07

Wano, right? Probably.

16:10

I'm not as up on this

16:12

stuff either, but I have been watching it more

16:14

recently. I am

16:17

no expert here, so you know, I don't think

16:19

either of us are super anime experts, so we're

16:21

gonna sound like fools talking about it. But

16:25

regardless, I know that he's

16:27

done several theme songs, and

16:30

this definitely feels more in tune

16:33

with We Go, and We Go obviously

16:35

felt very in tune with We Are.

16:39

It just feels like this song

16:41

could have been written at the start of the

16:43

series. There

16:46

is a timeless quality to it. And

16:48

while I'm not going to, I think

16:51

I said, I'm not gonna put it

16:53

on repeat on Spotify, but

16:57

it makes me feel like I'm in the

16:59

mood for a fun, exciting,

17:01

something that will make

17:04

me laugh episode

17:06

of One Piece. And

17:10

the visuals that go along with it are

17:13

just chef's kiss because they're having

17:15

fun. It's creative, it's utilizing the

17:18

crew in unique ways, and it

17:20

features the crew. My God, that's

17:22

so important. There

17:25

have been so many openings that have looked at what's

17:27

going on in the series right

17:30

now, or really featuring the tertiary

17:32

characters. This,

17:34

I mean, look at how much

17:37

it features Luffy, which

17:39

is great. It's so good to see that. And

17:42

I was blown away. I was

17:45

smiling ear to ear by the end of it.

17:48

Yeah, it's really great. And

17:51

I do think that it's not just

17:53

that it's Kitsudani singing it, but it

17:55

is clearly written in like a, you

17:57

know, it's a similar key. has

18:00

similar kind of chord progression

18:03

that is definitely hitting the same

18:05

type of

18:08

sound that the the original does. And

18:10

actually if you do get a chance

18:12

to to see

18:15

the ending video, I had a very

18:17

similar thought about that one

18:19

too, where it sounded like they

18:21

specifically said, hey let's write a

18:24

song that evokes you know how

18:26

it felt hearing memories

18:29

back in the day. And has a

18:31

similar, you

18:33

know it's not the same song but

18:37

it does do some of the

18:39

same things. And so yeah it

18:41

definitely is kind of a

18:43

bit of a trip through memory lane kind

18:47

of feeling. I gotta give that a listen. Also,

18:49

I'll skip Mucky, she's from Fukui,

18:51

which is where I live. We

18:55

actually exchanged Twitter

18:57

follows I guess a couple years ago. Oh really?

19:00

Yeah and because we've crossed paths at

19:02

a couple of events now. And

19:07

it was one of the things where I was just like, you

19:09

know, I don't know if you remember me but

19:12

I saw you on TV the other

19:14

night and it was really cool and thank you

19:16

and I'm looking forward to something you know in the

19:18

future where we can see memories again. And

19:20

she was like, Greg, of course I remember you. Oh,

19:24

it's a king! So

19:29

yeah, I do need to give that

19:31

a listen and tell her my

19:33

thoughts on that because memories are just... That's

19:36

something I put on repeat. Like

19:38

that's a great song. You

19:41

do have to keep in mind, Greg, that you

19:44

know you have a more striking

19:46

profile in Japan than the average person. So...

19:51

The folks will remember you. You think I

19:53

have a big nose? the

20:01

let's see what else is there yeah what

20:04

what were your thoughts about the

20:08

the big announcement from jump festa

20:10

about this new

20:13

series apparently okay

20:18

so it little

20:20

bit of a behind-the-scenes story

20:23

is I was completely surprised

20:25

at the announcement

20:28

however the announcement did not surprise me

20:32

I'll explain I

20:36

for I guess I don't know how

20:39

many maybe two three years now I've

20:41

been doing the English translation for Otis

20:43

yearly message and

20:45

it's it's always a process that goes

20:48

right down I mean I was they

20:51

were changing it you know right down

20:53

to a couple hours

20:56

before the for the reveal

20:58

like Wow like the night before jump

21:00

the second day of jump festa at like

21:03

like midnight I was getting texts that were like

21:05

we need to change this and this and this

21:07

okay okay all right but

21:13

there was no mention of the

21:16

project the the

21:18

redoing of the series specifically in there

21:21

so I didn't expect any any announcement

21:23

of that however boy

21:28

how many this was actually probably around

21:30

the same time that I had that

21:32

same conversation about sleep with with Oda

21:35

but we were we

21:38

were sitting at a table and

21:41

his editors sat

21:44

down across I was next to him his editors sat

21:46

across from him and

21:49

at a restaurant and

21:52

they they

21:54

said by the way we have

21:56

something to ask you and they're like we're

21:58

we're thinking thinking of redoing

22:02

the anime, but we want to know how

22:04

do you feel? Like, would

22:06

you be interested in that? And

22:09

he was just like, oh, yeah, sounds cool. And

22:14

like, it's a super weighted

22:16

question, is it not? I mean, to

22:18

do that while

22:21

the series is going on is

22:24

I honestly,

22:26

I don't know if it's ever been done. I mean,

22:28

I think the closest thing you do is something with

22:30

like, with like Doraemon maybe

22:32

doing a spinoff series and a movie

22:35

series. But

22:37

I mean, I don't think there's anything equivalent

22:39

to a Shonen series doing

22:42

this. I mean, Hunter

22:44

x Hunter is very

22:48

similar to that, of course, but Hunter x Hunter is a

22:51

unique situation in its own way. Yeah,

22:53

that's true. Yeah. And

22:55

Fullmetal Alchemist are the ones that come

22:57

to mind of like, they did it

22:59

once and then they decided, let's go

23:01

back and do it again with

23:04

a little more effort and time this time.

23:08

Oh, interesting. I'm not familiar with Film No

23:22

way. when we discussed this.

23:26

They did an original series for

23:28

Fullmetal Alchemist in the middle of

23:30

the manga and it was, you

23:32

know, I forget how long, I

23:34

think it was two, so it

23:38

might've been 50 something episodes or something like

23:40

that. And

23:42

the manga was nowhere near being finished. So

23:44

they came up with their own original ending

23:47

for it. And then

23:49

again, while the manga was still

23:51

ongoing, a couple years later,

23:53

they put together a brotherhood

23:55

and apparently I did not

23:57

check and look this up.

24:00

but from what Zach said at the time, he

24:02

said they actually managed to time it so

24:05

that the final chapter, that

24:07

was a monthly manga, the final

24:09

monthly chapter came out at the

24:11

very end of the anime

24:14

and they had apparently planned it

24:16

out where they were on the

24:18

same page as far as what

24:20

the content was. So that's a

24:23

pretty extreme situation too, you

24:25

can imagine, like the amount of planning that goes

24:27

into that. No way,

24:29

that author, my goodness.

24:34

All right, well, aside

24:36

from Full Metal Alchemist and I

24:38

don't really count Hunter X Hunter because that's kind

24:40

of a unique situation with

24:43

the progression, but I don't

24:45

really know that this is

24:48

something that's been done before

24:50

and I don't even know, I don't

24:52

think it's... Like I think

24:54

One Piece has some good life left in it, I

24:56

really do, but I don't know if they'll

24:59

get through it by the end, you know what

25:01

I mean? I'm

25:04

not sure how that's gonna go and honestly, I don't

25:07

think they know how it's gonna go either. I think

25:09

they're having fun with it. I think they're having a

25:11

good time and they're gonna see

25:13

how things fit together over the years,

25:16

especially whether there's success with it or not,

25:18

hopefully they do find success. But

25:23

very, very interesting development and I was surprised

25:25

at the timing of it. Yeah,

25:30

I apologize for the cough, I had a little bit

25:32

of a cough over the break. Oh, okay, I

25:35

hope that gets better. I mean, it's the season for

25:38

all kinds of germs and nasty things.

25:42

Yeah, it does, I think one of the really

25:45

fascinating parts about it is it's

25:48

not like the Toei production is

25:50

any slot, I mean, they continue

25:53

to just one

25:55

up themselves as far as the production

25:57

values and the effort that they're putting.

26:00

into the series. So,

26:03

you know, it's not like, oh,

26:06

thank God, we're being saved from

26:08

this shoddy second rate adaptation. There's,

26:13

it's just kind of firing on all cylinders right

26:15

now. Is

26:22

there anything else? I mean, I guess it's, it

26:25

probably, I kind of opined

26:27

on this. I don't know if you have any

26:29

thoughts on the matter too, but it does feel

26:32

like when they announced kind

26:35

of first and foremost, like, yeah, this is happening

26:37

with Netflix, that it really does

26:39

feel like they both sides of

26:42

this kind of arrangement that

26:44

has been building and developing

26:47

since the live action show

26:49

first started. It feels like they are

26:51

really leaning

26:53

heavily into each other with this partnership

26:55

that's going on right now between, you

26:58

know, the situation and ODA and Netflix.

27:02

What are your thoughts on that? I

27:05

have, I have

27:08

more than thoughts on it and I really

27:10

should not share those.

27:12

Fair, fair. Just because they're

27:15

a little bit more confidential, but

27:19

it's not nasty or anything. It's just,

27:21

no, no, no, no. Trying to be professional about

27:23

it and all. But

27:26

I mean, looking at what, what are they, they just

27:28

announced that, aren't they doing

27:30

a speedup or something with the anime,

27:33

the toy animation on Netflix? They're

27:36

going to get it or something? Yes,

27:38

yes. I'm not sure if that's a

27:40

North American thing only or if that's

27:43

international, but. It's North American only, yeah.

27:45

Because Japan over here, it's like, it's

27:48

pretty normal. Like, I think weekly we get

27:50

the episodes on Thursdays on Netflix. Oh,

27:52

wow, okay. Yeah, well,

27:55

I think they're catching up. And you

27:57

know, the dubbing process is very, very

27:59

close. close to being all

28:02

the way caught up. So that's probably

28:04

another factor that contributed to that. But

28:07

yes, I believe they will be simulcasting

28:10

it or something close

28:12

to that within

28:14

this month. So it's

28:17

an evolving situation. They

28:21

got a taste of that one piece money. I

28:26

mean, I would hope so, yeah. Good

28:28

fun, it's been long enough. I

28:30

mean, I saw there was

28:33

an article that I presume it

28:35

must have been based on actual data

28:37

that had been released from

28:39

Netflix. This is talking about the

28:42

live action of kind of looking back

28:44

on 2023. And

28:47

they kind of broke things down

28:49

by different categories of content and

28:52

both hours watched, cumulative hours watched

28:54

and then like the viewer review

28:57

or their score basically

29:02

how happy they were with it. And I

29:04

think of all the series that premiered

29:06

in 2023, I

29:09

think in terms of hours watched, one piece was

29:12

third, fairly

29:14

close with the first

29:16

two, but it was

29:19

number one in fan sentiment. So

29:22

that's gotta be good. Wow.

29:26

That is great. Well, look

29:29

forward to season two. Yep, yeah.

29:32

I will not bother you

29:34

with any pointless questions about that at this

29:37

point. We

29:39

will wait and see. I

29:43

think that's probably enough talking

29:46

about news. I'm sure there's other

29:48

things that we could talk about,

29:50

but we don't wanna

29:53

doddle too long since we are kind of on a time

29:55

limit here. So

29:58

I guess moving on. to

30:00

the manga. It's been

30:03

a couple, it's been a few

30:05

months now actually since we talked

30:07

and so I don't remember exactly,

30:09

I remember we talked about the

30:11

the Bonnie

30:13

Age issue so that was definitely no

30:16

earlier than that that chapter

30:18

where it was confirmed but it's

30:20

been a few since then

30:22

and I

30:25

don't know if I don't know if

30:27

it's worth going through the the blow-by-blow

30:29

but you know just in general

30:32

terms last couple

30:34

chapters rounding out

30:36

the Kuma flashback what

30:38

are your thoughts what have you what's your

30:40

takeaway been? I have

30:44

something of a unique take

30:47

on this and maybe it's me being older

30:49

as a person I'm not really sure maybe

30:51

it's just me having

30:53

a lot of experience with the series there

30:57

is nothing I dislike

30:59

about this flashback in fact I

31:02

feel that it is incredibly tight

31:05

is very well written the

31:07

pacing at the beginning is still something I

31:09

take issue with but

31:12

obviously looking at the whole

31:14

picture we know why that was a thing and

31:16

why that was constructed that way and

31:21

yet I think

31:23

maybe this is one of the stories that has moved me

31:25

the least in the series I'm

31:28

not entirely sure why but

31:32

I'm not using whether I cry or

31:34

not as a litmus test for whether

31:37

I enjoyed something I

31:39

and I think I have maybe an inkling

31:42

of why it is maybe and

31:45

I think it's because for so

31:47

many years I

31:49

expected Kuma to be the kind

31:51

of person that he's just been shown to be so

31:56

it's kind of like finally it's out there

31:59

good The

32:03

reactions from Bonnie to me have been

32:05

sort of the biggest kind

32:08

of talking in my heartstrings, especially

32:10

at the end there. And

32:13

the age reveal, and not

32:15

only the age reveal, but how well the

32:17

age reveal was done. I think

32:21

to me were some of the

32:23

most impressive points of the flashback.

32:26

But I wasn't a puddle of

32:28

goo by the end, and it just

32:30

felt natural, it felt good. And

32:33

I guess

32:35

the character growth that

32:38

we saw in, maybe

32:41

not Kuma, because Kuma remains unchanged,

32:43

but we saw in Bonnie

32:46

as she grew up, felt

32:49

all justified. So

32:53

I did enjoy all of that, but

32:55

I didn't come away in a pile of goo. I don't

32:58

know about yourself. Yeah,

33:01

I think I – what did I say? I

33:03

did get a little choked up at the

33:08

running page, the one where

33:10

his life is flashing before his eyes, basically.

33:14

I thought that was a

33:16

really fascinating page.

33:19

And the way that we discussed

33:21

it last week when

33:23

we were recapping was

33:25

that it kind of felt

33:27

like – it felt

33:30

like Oda was able

33:32

to kind of indulge in

33:34

an emotional and

33:37

slightly experimental format

33:39

that he rarely does these days.

33:44

And I really appreciated seeing

33:46

that. It was not his usual

33:50

style, I would say. And that was really

33:52

cool. And I

33:57

don't know. I think it probably hit

33:59

me more because – is I did

34:01

not, you said you had always kind

34:03

of suspected that this was

34:06

basically who Kuma was as a

34:08

person. And I will

34:10

admit that I found Kuma to

34:12

be either boring or

34:15

just kind of unreadable for the majority

34:17

of the series before all of this

34:19

stuff kind of came. I was just

34:22

sort of like, well, he's doing something,

34:24

but I don't really know why. And

34:26

I can't tell if this is just

34:28

author convenience or what,

34:30

I didn't really see the narrative

34:34

behind all of that. And

34:36

so I think seeing all of these

34:39

events that turned him into the person

34:41

that he was and then his side

34:43

of all the stuff that we saw

34:47

like on Thriller Bark and on

34:49

Shabondi, those

34:52

all like kind of slid right into place.

34:55

And it was like, oh, this all makes

34:57

so much sense now. And

35:00

so I think that probably has a

35:02

big part to play with

35:05

why it felt,

35:07

it probably hit harder for me was

35:10

just not being prepared for that. I

35:16

see, interesting, very interesting. Especially

35:18

that take on the fact that you don't know

35:20

how to read him. That's

35:23

very cool. I think

35:25

that maybe that is the difference because I set

35:28

my foot in the ground on that

35:30

one. That was one where I was like,

35:32

oh, I mean, I

35:35

had my inklings originally because

35:37

he was carrying around the Bible in

35:41

my favorite chapters, 234, I think 235, when

35:47

he first shows up. You

35:52

can take that a number of different ways. Oh,

35:54

he's only in a Bible, of course he's gonna be like, he's

35:57

trying to proselytize everyone. He's

36:00

going to be one of those kind of characters

36:03

that takes things too far. And

36:05

I thought, well, hold on. Let's just, I don't know

36:07

what Oda's going to do, how Tropey is going to

36:09

be with this. Let's just see

36:11

where that goes. It could go one way or

36:13

the other. And when we

36:16

got to the thriller bark scene, I thought,

36:20

hold on. You

36:22

can interpret what he's doing here in a number

36:24

of ways. I

36:27

don't think it's actually

36:29

threatening because if he wanted to,

36:31

he could have ended them. Let's

36:34

see where this goes. Then he got to Chavondi.

36:37

And the second he leaned down

36:40

to whisper something into Rayleigh's ear.

36:45

Interestingly enough, he did not reveal what that was,

36:47

did he? I don't think he did. No.

36:51

This would have been the perfect opportunity for it. I

36:56

was like, ah, okay. He

36:58

is informing Rayleigh that he is not going

37:00

to end them or just like, there's

37:03

a purpose for this. Please

37:06

don't kill me. So

37:10

I read it with that assumption. And

37:14

ever since that way, he's

37:16

read that way. He's been

37:18

that kind of character to me. And

37:21

to see that carry through is

37:23

a wonderful thing. But it's also not

37:26

surprising. The most surprising thing for

37:28

me, hands down, has been

37:30

that they're

37:34

not blood related. That was like, oh

37:36

my God. And then

37:38

age was another like, oh my God.

37:41

Because I was so far in the

37:44

other direction that she was this ancient

37:46

being. Well

37:50

played, Oda. Well played. Yeah. Yeah,

37:53

I had always kind of, it

37:56

was one of those things I didn't really think about that

37:58

often. a lot of

38:01

those details, particularly the

38:03

Thriller Bark thing, where I sort

38:06

of bought his original, what

38:09

his stated intentions were.

38:11

And it was one of those things where I was like, is

38:14

this just unsatisfying writing? Why

38:16

would he be satisfied with

38:18

Zorro taking the hit rather

38:21

than Luffy? When you

38:23

see it now, it's like, oh, well, actually, he

38:26

has a fascination with Luffy. And

38:28

he has a reason to kind

38:30

of test. He's

38:34

testing the waters here to see if

38:37

Luffy's crew is worthy of

38:39

him. Are they going to

38:42

take him where I think he might be

38:44

going, sort of thing? Yeah,

38:46

seeing all of that perspective was like,

38:48

oh, this makes much more.

38:50

I feel much better about this event

38:52

now understanding his

38:56

motivations better. Because

38:59

sometimes you just have things where either because

39:04

of the way Oda wrote it or did the

39:06

dialogue or something where it's just like, is this

39:09

just the Japanese thing where it's

39:12

just stated in it? I think of Shanks

39:15

coming to end the war and everybody

39:17

agreeing like, OK, yeah, let's help you

39:19

save a face or

39:22

whatever, which is kind of a strange

39:25

way to phrase it. I

39:27

get what the point was. But

39:31

sometimes you come across things like that where

39:33

it just feels like this is

39:35

coming from a writer,

39:37

a creative mind who lives in a

39:40

very different culture from my own. And

39:42

maybe I'm just not

39:44

fully grasping all

39:47

the intricacies of what these

39:49

characters' actions mean. And

39:52

that's kind of how I interpreted

39:55

some of Kuma's actions.

39:57

But yeah, they seem.

40:00

much more in line with You

40:02

know what I see of him now You

40:06

know this very very noble laudable

40:08

character What

40:11

what do you think are his

40:13

chances of getting out of this?

40:16

with the quote-unquote original Very

40:20

quote-unquote original body Yeah,

40:24

I Don't

40:26

know. I don't know. I think

40:29

they're probably pretty low um hmm

40:33

Hey, I think it's one of those things where like I

40:35

was thinking about this of like the

40:37

Oda did the rare thing here where he

40:39

created the He

40:42

created the flashback character ie

40:44

the the person who

40:46

just seems like Like

40:49

how can you fault them for anything like

40:51

they're just they're just perfectly lovable

40:55

Human beings who are always supportive and

40:57

you know doing such great things it

40:59

while he's still alive Usually,

41:03

you know he can he can lean on

41:05

those all those positive qualities because They're

41:08

tragic figures who have already perished and you know

41:10

the people in the the present day are you

41:14

know using their their example

41:16

as inspiration to keep going

41:19

and all these parental figures and You

41:21

know Corazon and people like that

41:25

But Kuma is still alive in

41:27

some manner of speaking and

41:29

I do feel like That

41:32

that that's probably not a good sign

41:34

for for him getting off of this

41:39

But but I

41:41

I don't know we were talking about the You

41:46

know Vega Punk had said something like, you know,

41:49

oh well I have this I Have

41:52

this thing that you know, I can I

41:54

can split off or switch the personality or

41:57

something like that like like

41:59

multiple person personalities so

42:01

that I might, you know, preserve

42:03

part of his personality or something like

42:06

that. And it

42:08

didn't sound like he did it because,

42:10

you know, he was mentioning that to

42:12

Saturn and then Saturn shot him down.

42:15

He could certainly have done so,

42:17

which might, or, you know, have done

42:19

some kind of tinkering which might explain

42:23

Kuma coming back. I was thinking about this

42:26

and I was like, it almost feels more

42:30

one piece. I don't want to get my hopes up too much in

42:32

case this turns out not to be the case,

42:35

but it does feel like the sort

42:37

of thing where maybe Vega-Punk would have

42:39

tried something or maybe he created some,

42:42

you know, little backdoor in Kuma's

42:45

personality. But I would love to have

42:47

it turn out that like he

42:50

did that, but it

42:52

should not have worked as well. Or

42:55

like that the Kuma should not have

42:57

reacted this quickly or something, some way

42:59

in which you still get to preserve

43:01

the kind of superhuman,

43:03

you know, the almost magical

43:05

heroic stand of like Kuma

43:07

is overcoming the, you know,

43:10

the machine. Even the science of

43:12

it, yes. Right. Right.

43:16

That seems like it would be something very, you know,

43:18

very manga-esque, very one piece ask. I

43:21

agree. That would

43:23

be the shonen aspect of it is

43:25

the fact that he did

43:27

intend to remove it as

43:30

ordered and with the permission of Kuma

43:32

proper, but his

43:34

willpower is so strong that

43:37

it's overcoming that. And

43:40

that ever since he ran

43:42

away from Kama-Bukka Island, that was where I was just

43:45

like, yes, there's

43:51

definitely it's either the backdoor or the

43:53

trigger. At that time, I even thought

43:55

like maybe, maybe Vega-Punki hit a switch

43:58

at the at

44:01

the laboratory and maybe you know maybe that is

44:03

what happened you know because the timing of that

44:06

would be around such but

44:09

the point being that whatever

44:11

it is needs

44:13

to have a like you said a

44:15

superhuman quality to it that shows that

44:17

he's overcoming the situation as

44:20

it should have been. That said

44:23

I do not

44:25

I'm similar to you I do not have high hopes for

44:28

the or high expectations for the fate

44:30

of this quote-unquote original

44:32

body. Luckily

44:34

we have the memories so

44:36

the do-over is is given. There

44:40

will be a happy ending there it's

44:42

just a matter of when and I

44:44

don't know if Oda can... How

44:51

he likes to hold the reader in suspense I

44:54

don't know if he can justify giving

44:56

us that happy ending before

44:58

the end of the series so this

45:00

might be something that he he holds off on for

45:03

quite some time. Yeah I don't

45:05

know if they do have the memories

45:07

though because that was the

45:10

end of you know when Bonnie is when

45:13

she's crying because she's seen all of

45:15

that you know she touched the the

45:18

paw right and that's that causes it to vanish that's

45:20

what he said. Did I

45:24

miss that? I may have missed that. Yeah

45:26

yeah I'm looking here at the

45:29

scene so yeah he says the

45:32

the memories are something like a copy

45:34

but if you touch it it will

45:36

disappear and then vagapunk appear his facility will hold

45:41

it without touching it but

45:43

then that's what Bonnie did to to see

45:46

you know to to

45:49

see everything that we saw presumably. Well guess

45:51

what now she

45:53

has the memories yeah and if

45:55

they're able to extract memories. Okay

45:58

yeah if there's another sort of... magical

46:00

scientific power that that VegaPunk

46:02

can use to let along

46:05

if if there's

46:07

a person to to

46:09

utilize fruit powers without

46:13

the fruit he's

46:15

definitely the dude to do it that

46:17

is true yeah

46:20

yeah I didn't fully

46:22

understand this I didn't read through it a bunch either

46:24

because I didn't fully care to get through it because

46:26

it was like I was maybe setting something up and

46:28

I'm not gonna think too hard about it what

46:31

was Bonnie subjected to she was made

46:33

to drink an elixir that

46:35

was that they tried to transfer

46:38

fruit powers without the fruit yeah

46:42

let's see what

46:44

did he say yeah

46:46

he gave her

46:48

to do where which I'm

46:56

sorry to put you on the spot here

46:58

yeah no I let's

47:01

see he said he directly

47:03

gave the extract to

47:06

the to her as a

47:08

baby right as

47:10

an experiment so presumably that

47:12

would mean an injection I

47:15

guess mm-hmm but yeah

47:17

that does that does open up a lot of questions

47:19

of like oh so they can

47:21

they could presumably do that at any time

47:23

now to to

47:26

other folks between that and the you know

47:28

the green blood and and all this other

47:31

stuff we are really softening

47:33

the boundaries of you know how

47:36

how devil fruit powers work here

47:38

oh my

47:41

god you know would be crazy absolutely

47:43

absolutely off the charts is

47:46

if VegaPunk secretly put kumas

47:51

naturally memories he

47:53

put a key copy pasted and put them into every

47:56

pacifist or the

47:58

the police He

48:00

just turned it on yeah Wow

48:03

oh my god But

48:06

anyway, all right interesting very I

48:08

did not catch that they had dead that

48:10

they had vanished So that's that's

48:12

very interesting but in the same vein now that those

48:15

memories have been passed on I imagine

48:17

that they can just pop them out and and

48:19

place them back in if they wanted to Possibly

48:24

yeah Um,

48:26

I had another question. This is more of a like

48:28

a a little bit of a procedural

48:31

question here, but we've been talking

48:33

and we still don't have a you know a full

48:36

answer on what

48:38

the deal is with Saturn and his

48:41

you know his seeming ability to Rob,

48:44

you know, it's almost like he has a like

48:47

a sea prism say, you know sea stone

48:50

projection field around him or something that

48:52

is um interfering

48:55

with people's ability to to

48:57

get to him And

49:00

I would have assumed that you know, there's they

49:02

they had this little Interaction

49:04

him he and Bonnie where you know, she's

49:07

saying, you know, oh my you know, my

49:09

powers. I'm not able to use them

49:11

I'm weak, you know, it's not

49:13

it's not working and You

49:15

know my first assumption is Oh,

49:18

well, that's that's it's the same thing that we've

49:20

kind of sort of seen him doing with the

49:23

other people That we see

49:25

a page or two before like Sanji is saying

49:27

I can't move you know, what's going on here

49:29

and everybody's kind of stuck there and And

49:33

also the weapon X kind of shit to

49:35

rent the Wolverine

49:38

healing factor or whatever it is. Oh Yeah

49:42

for for for Saturn. Yeah. Yeah

49:45

And So I

49:47

would I would have assumed that that was

49:49

also, you know, kind of why her her

49:51

powers are not working But then he kind

49:53

of gives her this little speech

49:56

about You know,

49:58

you have the you know, your your

50:00

age powers allow you to transform into

50:02

all these different futures but

50:05

you know your despair is

50:07

causing you to realize that you know your your

50:09

futures are limited and you're you know you're not

50:11

believing in Nika anymore and that's why you can't

50:13

turn into him and all this stuff do

50:16

you do you take that did you take that

50:18

at face value or did it did

50:20

it feel like it was Saturn

50:22

slash Oda himself kind of

50:26

coming up with a likely story kind of

50:28

a mind game that he's playing with Bonnie

50:31

to to not

50:33

actually reveal what Saturn's powers

50:35

are yet um that

50:38

I had there's stuff

50:40

I don't read over and there's stuff

50:42

I miss but that line in particular

50:44

caught my interest and I didn't read

50:46

that specific line over several times and

50:48

gave it some thought I

50:53

was just like what is he talking

50:55

about and is

50:59

it because is it because she was an

51:01

experiment is it a field experiment is it

51:03

or is it something about the fruit and

51:08

what I came away with was that

51:10

it's it's a particular aspect of the

51:12

fruit in

51:14

which again works if

51:17

I do understand it correctly works

51:19

so well with her being

51:21

a child because it's I think if he says

51:23

something along the lines of like the more you

51:25

understand about reality the

51:27

the the more limited your

51:30

futures become your impossible futures

51:32

become so if I understand that

51:34

it's the fruits power is based

51:37

on your

51:40

knowledge of the world basically

51:42

and and what's around you and to

51:44

that point because she's a child she

51:47

doesn't have that knowledge she doesn't have

51:50

a a school education so

51:53

hurt what she knows about

51:55

the world is limited to basically

51:57

nothing she thinks anything is possible

52:01

So I'm not sure if that was

52:03

something that he did or was part

52:05

of the whatever she was injected

52:07

with. Or

52:10

if that's a limitation of the Toshi

52:12

Toshi for proper. If

52:15

I understand it correctly, I think he's talking about the Toshi Toshi

52:17

for... Yes. But

52:21

as far as that's related to him, I don't

52:23

think that's any of what's going on with his

52:27

strange or unique,

52:30

quote unquote, powers. Yeah. But

52:34

it's interesting you mentioned that. That did stick

52:36

out to me specifically. I was like, oh,

52:39

is this Oda limiting the fruit abilities?

52:41

Because you would be too OP? Yeah.

52:45

I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that, you know, kind

52:48

of kind of similar to what

52:51

you've been saying about. Sometimes you just kind of don't

52:53

bother to think through all the ramifications of

52:55

a power or whatnot, because it's like, oh,

52:57

well, he'll explain it later or, you know,

52:59

we'll find out eventually. And I

53:02

don't know enough at this point. And

53:04

I'm sure there's lots of things like that where

53:06

he's like, oh, well, actually, if it's like this,

53:09

then people are going to say, well, why didn't

53:11

she do that? Why didn't she do this? Yeah.

53:13

You can do that. You get lost in all

53:15

those different possibilities. Honestly, the

53:18

moment it kind of broke for me was when she

53:20

did Nikka Mitai and the Midai. That

53:23

was where I was just like,

53:25

holy crap. We're not talking like,

53:28

you know, strong. And we're not talking

53:30

like, you know, weak, because those seem

53:32

like very basic concepts for a person.

53:36

You're changing their future so they

53:39

can be a godlike being. Right.

53:42

The possibilities are endless. Yeah. Yeah.

53:47

But I do think something is interesting. Actually,

53:50

can I talk about this now? I didn't

53:52

want to spend too much on this, but

53:54

it's similar. There was

53:56

also a line where I think, I'm

53:58

pretty sure it's Saturn. And he's kind of reflecting

54:01

on himself and he's like, oh, the two

54:03

of them are not connected yet. Or it's

54:05

like, there's just a... Yes. Yeah,

54:07

within, yes, he says, within you,

54:09

Nika and Straw Hat's white form

54:11

are not connected, don't seem to

54:14

be connected. Yeah. What?

54:17

Yet. Inferring that

54:20

they can be connected? Yeah.

54:23

What the F is that about? That, and

54:26

that seems really, is

54:28

that gonna be an inspiration thing? Because

54:31

of hockey, does everybody

54:33

have the potential to be Nika? Like,

54:37

would that be Luffy's inspiration to the

54:39

world? And

54:42

I know that that's going really out there,

54:45

but why would he bother saying that? That's

54:47

a very odd thing to say. Unless

54:50

I'm missing something that's very obvious, but... I

54:52

mean, it could be kind of just

54:54

on the face of it. It

54:57

could just be that there... We

55:00

have come to expect

55:02

that the name

55:04

Nika gets brought up a lot with

55:07

regards to Luffy, but that's

55:09

still kind of a... Only

55:12

a few people know about that in

55:14

the series that we have seen so far. Yeah. So

55:17

he might be like, it might be like a

55:19

PR thing where he's just like, oh, I

55:21

don't want the name Nika to come back into

55:23

fashion and have that associated with

55:25

straw hat because then there will be more

55:28

consequences around the world and

55:31

more people who might be aligned against us

55:33

and stuff like that. So that might

55:35

be... What is that process? Interesting,

55:39

interesting. Okay. Yeah.

55:41

Yeah, I don't... Okay, I don't know what's...

55:46

Then what happens if more people do know it? Then

55:48

what happens? Right. Yeah.

55:51

All right, well, very interesting. I

55:53

would love to chat more on it, but I

55:56

do believe we have a duty to

55:58

do as the SGS. Yes we

56:00

do. We do

56:03

have a couple

56:05

questions. Yeah and

56:07

we'll pick up more about Kuma

56:10

and Saturn and Bonnie and all

56:13

that stuff next time we talk

56:15

I'm sure. Let's go

56:17

to our SGS segment on the

56:19

Discord where our patrons if you

56:21

are subscribed to our patreon and

56:23

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56:26

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56:28

our own SGS channel there.

56:32

Let's see I believe the last

56:34

one we will

56:36

start with King Doji. It says

56:39

hello Simba, Greg and Steven.

56:41

Hey a couple of

56:43

questions here. How does this flashback rank

56:45

among your favorites? What are some of

56:47

your favorites? And then and he

56:49

says how much longer do you think we have in

56:51

this flashback and in this arc? Well this was before

56:54

the the end of the flashback when he asked us.

56:57

Yeah how are you feeling? You

57:00

did talk about your general

57:03

kind of emotional takeaway from it. Higher

57:07

than Vivi's. But

57:13

I don't want to sound too negative because

57:15

it is very well done. I enjoyed it

57:19

but it didn't really move

57:21

me that much. It was just

57:24

it was satisfying to see what I had

57:26

hoped for play out but

57:29

it also gets points for the V. I don't

57:31

know that it beats anybody in the cruise. I'm

57:35

just trying to think. That's tough yeah.

57:40

I mean okay if we're being completely

57:42

honest like

57:45

Zoro's flashback is is not

57:47

super impressive to me. It is an

57:51

important part of the story and it builds what

57:53

we see in Zoro and

57:55

it was just like oh holy

57:57

crap kind of moment but I mean this I

57:59

didn't. exactly come out of it

58:01

in tears or something. Maybe above

58:04

that. Which

58:06

I feel sad to say

58:08

because it's Zorro and I love Zorro.

58:11

But maybe, oh yeah. And

58:19

the lower end, but that's also like, yeah,

58:22

that's the lower end of a one

58:24

piece flashback. Yeah. Like,

58:28

loving a main character story in any

58:30

other manga for me. So yeah. Yeah.

58:33

Um, yeah, I don't know. I, I

58:36

agree that it's kind of hard to rank

58:39

it above. Certainly, I don't

58:41

think I would put it above

58:44

the, like the, the, the full

58:46

length, like the real satisfying straw hat

58:48

backstories. Cause like you said, some of

58:50

them that we've seen are, are

58:52

very brief just because they were so early in the

58:54

story. But

58:57

I did say, I thought

59:00

that post time

59:02

skip, this one was

59:05

probably close to maybe not quite on

59:07

the level of, of laws flashback.

59:13

But and I

59:15

think they were surprised that I didn't

59:18

say Odin's that Odin

59:20

was, was better than that. I think my

59:22

problem with Odin's flashback is it's not that

59:24

it's not good. It's just very long. It's

59:26

doing a lot of different things at

59:28

the same time. And comparatively busy. This,

59:31

this one is, is much more focused,

59:33

even though it does have a lot

59:35

of tie-ins and references to, to old

59:37

events. Like it's kind of, it's

59:40

not so much like giving us a ton of

59:43

new material to fit into the timeline,

59:46

but it's just kind of tying

59:48

together a bunch of, you know,

59:50

seemingly random events that, that actually

59:53

have a pretty strong narrative line

59:55

through them. And I

59:57

think that, that's very impressive. And

1:00:01

I think in terms of providing

1:00:03

a context for a character who's been

1:00:06

around for a very long time and

1:00:08

has been relatively unexplained, that's

1:00:12

pretty impressive. So I think for me, it

1:00:14

would probably be middle of the pack, which

1:00:16

again is high praise

1:00:18

for, in comparison to

1:00:20

any other series. It's

1:00:23

interesting you went to Oden as well.

1:00:27

I brought up and I tried to

1:00:29

wrestle with is Rebecca and

1:00:31

Kiro. I tried to go with

1:00:34

that one and see if I could beat that out

1:00:36

and no, it can't because... Interesting.

1:00:39

That one got me, but... Yeah,

1:00:42

actually that's a good comparison point because

1:00:44

they are very similar stories in certain

1:00:46

ways of, you know, the

1:00:48

father trying to protect the daughter. Yes. Maybe

1:00:53

probably better than Yamadou,

1:00:56

I think. Yeah,

1:00:58

that's a pretty short flashback. Good

1:01:04

question, thank you. Yeah. Next,

1:01:08

this is a fun one. Jerber's

1:01:10

eye patch says, hey Sanrio guest

1:01:12

stars, is Maria's

1:01:15

Seraphim gonna be named Sbat

1:01:17

S Gecko or a secret

1:01:19

third thing? That's

1:01:21

a good question. And

1:01:24

I don't think we, we haven't seen him yet, have we?

1:01:31

Is there a reason for bat? I'm just trying to think.

1:01:33

Oh, did you, maybe you heard this a

1:01:36

long time ago and you

1:01:38

forgot. So of course the

1:01:41

Shihbukai, the seven warlords all

1:01:45

have animal theme. That's why, you

1:01:47

know, that's why their Seraphim are named S

1:01:49

and then the animal. And

1:01:52

the pattern is always fairly obvious.

1:01:57

With Gecko, Maria is a bit

1:01:59

of a... Curveball because I think

1:02:01

like most people at least in

1:02:03

in English ah I'm My assumption

1:02:05

was that it was gecko as

1:02:07

in you know the lizard. Brain.

1:02:10

A gecko and I don't have is

1:02:12

actually been confirmed or not or if

1:02:14

this is just like people noticed. Bomb

1:02:16

the yeah that thing that was going

1:02:18

on here but if you say his

1:02:20

full name get go more de yah

1:02:22

yah yah movie. No. Not

1:02:24

gonna go more. Yeah, Coal.

1:02:27

Modi comedy his bat so

1:02:29

if you're cool, Moria Okay

1:02:32

yeah and I I think.

1:02:34

That. There's there's probably some yeah I'm

1:02:37

just. I'm sure there's some amount of

1:02:39

you know fan art and in other

1:02:41

creations where people have drawn on that

1:02:43

and and kind of used as his

1:02:45

his think that's obviously also that's a

1:02:47

very. Significant, think

1:02:49

about thriller bark and at that,

1:02:51

the bats flying around and stuff

1:02:53

like that. It definitely. Does

1:02:56

kind of tie into his his

1:02:58

character. Com but I

1:03:00

don't know if we've ever gotten. Confirmation.

1:03:03

That if we have I might for getting it right now.

1:03:07

If it's if there's if that's on out

1:03:09

V record. Than. I have no yeah

1:03:11

I have. Ah,

1:03:14

in which case, I concede

1:03:16

other allies. Am. I

1:03:18

do believe it's gecko because his. Even

1:03:21

his i'm his final attack. Is

1:03:24

the the looks very lizard

1:03:26

years. And. I think one of

1:03:28

his shadow things is like and a literal

1:03:31

lizard that like shoots up out of the

1:03:33

grounds. Well if I'm remembering correctly, shadow that

1:03:35

slick lizard shaped. I'm. Ah,

1:03:39

And as a as I mentioned to the

1:03:41

this. This to you years

1:03:43

ago and that the fog but it was

1:03:46

more the ah. it's ah but if you

1:03:48

pronounce it, yeah and it it's ya Morty

1:03:50

which is also. it's a type of. Lists

1:03:52

Yeah well. I. Is that

1:03:55

are that the. is that

1:03:57

the at the traditional japanese term

1:03:59

forget or something. I believe so.

1:04:01

Yeah something like that. But I

1:04:03

mean the other thing about

1:04:06

gecko is and this is just is

1:04:08

it could also be like moonlight right

1:04:10

get cold so I don't know

1:04:12

if a lot of fans overseas are familiar with

1:04:14

that but gecko literally meaning moonlight so play on

1:04:16

moonlight to be like gecko. But

1:04:19

in Kōomori I don't know I've never heard that

1:04:21

in Japan. But

1:04:24

yeah I mean he's he's not a character who

1:04:26

comes up very often nowadays so it's you

1:04:29

know it's been a while since he was kind of

1:04:32

relevant to the story. We know what

1:04:34

he'd look like as a kid because he drew him as a

1:04:36

kid and we've also seen him younger. So

1:04:39

he'd probably look in between like probably

1:04:41

somewhere in between how Oda drew

1:04:44

him in chapter zero and

1:04:46

as a child right so he probably

1:04:48

still probably still has

1:04:50

a chin and

1:04:54

the long neck I assume just

1:04:57

assuming that he's a long neck tribe.

1:04:59

Yeah I dare

1:05:01

say we we could find out the answer to this you

1:05:04

know in the in the near future depending

1:05:06

on you know what scene Zoda wants

1:05:08

to draw. Interesting interesting. Let's see next

1:05:10

here's here's more kind

1:05:13

of old

1:05:19

old facts here. Pongzilla says hello Steven

1:05:21

and Greg question about

1:05:23

Jinbei and Frankie's birthdays. I

1:05:26

understand why Oda gave all the other

1:05:28

straw hats certain days for their birthdays.

1:05:31

Usup being April Fool's Day, Robin, Santi

1:05:33

and Nami being based on their names

1:05:35

etc. But why is Frankie's

1:05:37

birthday March 9th 39 and

1:05:40

Jinbei's 4-2 April

1:05:42

2nd. Stay awesome. Jinbei's

1:05:46

off hand I do not

1:05:48

know. I'd have to look that up. Yeah.

1:05:51

I do know Frankie's. Do

1:05:53

you know Frankie's? It's

1:05:56

not coming to mind right now. It's it's super

1:05:58

lame. It's it's I

1:06:00

mean and by that I mean it's

1:06:02

great. Uh-huh. Uh-huh What

1:06:05

is what it god damn it what is

1:06:07

Frankie? I Use

1:06:10

the cyborg Say

1:06:13

that again cyborg No,

1:06:16

it's wait. Saw Cyborg

1:06:18

saw for song and then is

1:06:21

it the good goo being yes Who

1:06:27

Geez so

1:06:30

for listeners saw

1:06:32

e bowl goo this

1:06:35

the first and the last character

1:06:38

saw and goo and sounds

1:06:42

like San and Koot

1:06:44

in Japanese meaning three and

1:06:47

nine. So I bow good

1:06:50

three nine Yes

1:06:55

Yeah As

1:07:00

for Jim Bayes, I'm sorry, I don't remember that

1:07:02

one offhand with the reasoning is I'd have to

1:07:04

look that up Yeah, I

1:07:07

can give you a bonus one to make up

1:07:09

for it Ores's

1:07:13

birthday is I believe

1:07:16

it's October 4th and And

1:07:19

the reason or his

1:07:21

birthday is October 4th is because he froze

1:07:25

to death or in

1:07:28

10-4 toll sheet

1:07:33

Okay. Yeah, that's that's

1:07:35

I Love

1:07:37

explaining these these number things to people because

1:07:39

there's like three different steps you have to

1:07:41

do to Explain. Yes,

1:07:43

why why this means this number? And

1:07:47

so on. Yeah, so Toe

1:07:50

being the counter for 10 Jim

1:07:55

Bay's I I did

1:07:58

a quick search and I believe Jim Bay's was revealed

1:08:01

in data book

1:08:03

blue, maybe blue deep,

1:08:05

I'm not sure. So I don't

1:08:08

believe that

1:08:10

that came with an explanation. So there

1:08:14

might be something, it might be world,

1:08:16

you know, whale shark day or something

1:08:19

like that. Yeah, neither of

1:08:22

like Frankies and stuff. Most

1:08:24

of the ones that have quote-unquote explanations

1:08:27

come from the SBS. Because

1:08:30

people, yeah. People asked

1:08:32

for them and they explained it and noticed,

1:08:34

all right. But like the past couple of

1:08:36

years when Oda started taking requests through the

1:08:38

website, like

1:08:41

they just stopped

1:08:43

with explanations and you got to figure them out yourself.

1:08:47

And like some of them are completely over

1:08:49

my head. Yeah. But the

1:08:51

Oars one I totally got. The

1:08:53

Frankie one I totally got. But

1:08:56

some of them are just like, you've

1:08:59

got to be kidding me, level of like

1:09:01

gags. Yeah. I

1:09:04

think I'd be more into them if they were all Oda created.

1:09:10

They are all Oda approved. So there's that

1:09:12

going for them. That's true. Yeah,

1:09:15

it's a lot. Once, I think once

1:09:17

he committed to like allowing for, you

1:09:19

know, the characters to have different birthdays,

1:09:21

then you know, then it's just

1:09:24

a whole level of potential trivia that just

1:09:27

kind of extends indefinitely where I

1:09:29

just can't, I definitely cannot

1:09:32

stay on top of all these things. Oh, here's

1:09:34

an interesting one. I don't think I

1:09:36

ever touched on this in the podcast. Yamata's birthday.

1:09:40

There is some fake information that's going around

1:09:42

about this. And they're like, oh,

1:09:45

it's Godzilla's birthday. That's why. What

1:09:48

the fuck? Why? It's

1:09:54

nothing to do with that and

1:09:56

everything to do with that

1:09:58

is the day. that the

1:10:01

Yamato ship in Japan,

1:10:03

the war ship in Japan, the

1:10:06

famous battleship in Japan was

1:10:09

completed. It was completed on

1:10:11

Yamato's birthday. And the

1:10:13

reason that's not

1:10:15

popping up on all the, let's

1:10:20

use a polite term, Backbencher's theory

1:10:23

tables is

1:10:25

because there is

1:10:27

a quote unquote error

1:10:29

in the Wiki for

1:10:34

the Yamato battleship.

1:10:39

And that is that they list the

1:10:41

completion date one

1:10:44

day, I think, earlier than

1:10:47

it actually was in Japan because the

1:10:50

Wiki listing, or at least it was when I

1:10:53

looked into this like two or three years ago,

1:10:56

was listed in American time. So

1:10:58

it's actually listed the day before

1:11:01

it was completed. So

1:11:06

when you go on the Wiki looking for it,

1:11:08

like there's no, like this happened on this day.

1:11:10

And this year it doesn't pop

1:11:12

up on Yamato's birthday. But

1:11:14

if you go to Japan, Japan counts it

1:11:16

as being done one day earlier. Or

1:11:19

one day later, one day later. So

1:11:22

that's where that comes from. And there's absolutely

1:11:25

no question about that. The

1:11:28

ship is inherently

1:11:31

locked in the mind of the Japanese ubiquity,

1:11:36

the Japanese mind hive, so to speak. Yeah.

1:11:39

Thanks to series like Battleship

1:11:41

Yamato and the bride in

1:11:44

the country and whatnot. But that's where that comes

1:11:46

from. I was sorry, that was on the side, but wanted

1:11:48

to put that up. Interesting. Interesting.

1:11:52

All right, we have one more here

1:11:54

on Discord from Big Mike. He says,

1:11:56

do you think before the end of

1:11:59

the series, get more Straw Hat

1:12:01

crew members and Grand Fleet captains. Vivi can

1:12:03

return to the crew for the remainder of

1:12:05

the series. Yamato is in limbo, and I

1:12:07

can see one of the Vega-Punks joining the

1:12:10

crew if his dreams align with him going

1:12:12

to Lafftail and the Straw Hats

1:12:14

needing a scientist on their crew. And

1:12:17

for the Grand Fleet I can see

1:12:19

Hancock and the Kuja Pirates, Aladdin and

1:12:21

the Sun Pirates, Carrot and the Mink

1:12:23

Tribe and Momonosuke and the Samurai joining.

1:12:30

So there's a point where I believe that the

1:12:34

the worst generation would

1:12:36

be coming, or the supernovas that we've been running at

1:12:38

the time, right? That they would

1:12:40

become sort of the Grand Fleet,

1:12:43

what we've come to know as

1:12:45

the Grand Fleet. Sort of like

1:12:47

Whitebeard's backup crews, right? I always

1:12:49

call the umbrella crews.

1:12:52

His affiliates I guess?

1:12:54

Yeah, that is not

1:12:56

likely to be the case. I do believe

1:12:58

that they will all cooperate with

1:13:00

Luffy, but their personalities are

1:13:02

such that I don't think

1:13:04

they could ever call themselves

1:13:06

subservient unless Oda clearly

1:13:10

really wants to show that Luffy is the

1:13:12

king and they all bow

1:13:15

to him. If

1:13:17

that occurs, then

1:13:19

that's kind of sad because that would mean some of

1:13:21

their spirits are broken. I

1:13:24

don't know if he can do that, but

1:13:26

other than that I do not see them being

1:13:28

part of the Grand Fleet, but I do see

1:13:30

them backing him up for sure. So

1:13:34

when it comes to Grand Fleet those are some good ideas

1:13:36

like Samurai and Aladdin's crew as

1:13:38

well. Those are great ideas. I do

1:13:40

like that. And as far as people

1:13:42

joining the crew, absolutely,

1:13:45

but at the very very

1:13:47

end, I

1:13:49

think Oda is really committed to the

1:13:53

crew that he planned at the beginning. Yeah.

1:13:57

I mean very much so.

1:14:00

frustratingly he drew

1:14:04

Yamato together with the crew and I mean you can

1:14:06

argue that Momo no skis there as well for the

1:14:08

for the Tatsudoshi this year for the year

1:14:10

dragon right but

1:14:13

like before I noticed Momo no skis was just like

1:14:15

whoa is this

1:14:17

disease is he being really right

1:14:19

here yeah yeah but

1:14:22

that that's that's my take on it I don't know if you

1:14:24

have a yeah I kind

1:14:27

of yes I do agree with you there on

1:14:29

the I guess the the

1:14:32

relative levels of connectedness

1:14:34

to to the

1:14:37

straw hat crews especially

1:14:39

after the last year or so

1:14:41

in the manga where we we've

1:14:43

seen like these really apocalyptic kind

1:14:45

of powers of the the mother

1:14:47

flame and just how

1:14:52

how really dastardly the

1:14:54

the goro say are

1:14:57

and and

1:14:59

then you have this stuff with with with kuma

1:15:01

saying thinking to himself you know oh straw hat

1:15:03

you know you will be the man who saves

1:15:05

the world so when you start pointing things into

1:15:07

terms of like you know

1:15:10

Luffy is going to save the world

1:15:12

from certain disaster and like look at

1:15:14

the absolute destructive powers that the the

1:15:17

bad guys have that they're willing to use in

1:15:19

order to maintain power or

1:15:21

whatever like if you put the

1:15:23

situation in those stark of terms

1:15:26

then yeah I think you know even

1:15:29

even the pirates who were rivals

1:15:32

to to Luffy I

1:15:35

think would at some point say

1:15:37

like hey he's the guy we got

1:15:39

to rely on to to

1:15:41

save everyone here and you know

1:15:44

that could be you know the very

1:15:46

final fight of the series

1:15:48

or whatever but you know I could see them

1:15:50

all coming around and you know doing the doing

1:15:53

their own version of the Genki dama sort of

1:15:55

thing to to

1:15:57

show their support for Luffy Yes.

1:16:02

And that would be pretty cool.

1:16:05

That would be cathartic. Yes.

1:16:07

Yeah. Alright,

1:16:10

let's go to Twitter now. We

1:16:12

did get another small handful of

1:16:14

questions and we'll get through these.

1:16:18

I'm looking forward to one of these in particular. I saw them.

1:16:21

Oh, okay. Let's see.

1:16:23

Alright, well let's start here. Let's

1:16:26

start with Pikmin Man at Gachi

1:16:28

Mu Chi Man number one who

1:16:30

says, hello SGS. Hope you got some

1:16:32

much deserved R&R. My question is fairly

1:16:34

simple. What did Santa get you guys?

1:16:37

Oh, you

1:16:41

want to go first? I

1:16:43

got, it was a little surprising.

1:16:45

I think I got more, I might

1:16:48

have gotten more One Piece stuff this year

1:16:50

than I have been

1:16:52

in the past. I don't know. That could

1:16:54

have just been as simple as like, everybody

1:16:57

asking my wife, what should we get him?

1:16:59

And she'll just say, just find something with

1:17:02

One Piece on it or something like that.

1:17:05

I don't know for sure, but I'm

1:17:08

trying to remember. I got some coasters,

1:17:11

some rubber drink coasters with the straw hat

1:17:13

jelly rush

1:17:15

on them. I got a mug

1:17:26

that I've been using for

1:17:29

tea at night. It

1:17:33

looks like, it's like Luffy dressed in a

1:17:35

black suit, so it kind of reminds me

1:17:37

of one of his movie outfits

1:17:39

or something like that. It might

1:17:41

have been. And

1:17:43

then I got, this one was amazing. My little sister

1:17:46

got me, it is a bootleg.

1:17:49

It's completely unlicensed, but

1:17:54

it's a ceramic bowl that

1:17:57

is fashioned like jumpers.

1:18:00

pre-timeskip hat. So

1:18:03

it's like a burgundy,

1:18:06

like purplish, bowl. And

1:18:08

so it goes under, you know, so there's a

1:18:10

decal with a little white X on the side.

1:18:13

And then there's like two

1:18:17

little antlers that kind of come down.

1:18:19

They're almost like little extra legs on the side

1:18:21

of the bowl. And

1:18:25

it came with chopsticks and like a little spoon.

1:18:27

So it's like a ramen bowl, basically. It's

1:18:31

pretty amazing. And yeah, it has a

1:18:34

Jolly Roger on it, but then

1:18:36

the only other like insignia or

1:18:38

whatever, it's like pirate ramen bowl

1:18:40

or something like that in, you

1:18:43

know, a vaguely one PC font. So.

1:18:48

Oh my God. Yeah. Steven,

1:18:51

I'm dying. We

1:18:55

did Secret Santa at

1:18:57

the office. And

1:19:01

you got to write down like, you

1:19:03

know, what do you want? Like what theme?

1:19:05

What theme do you want? And

1:19:07

then like, or surprise me. And

1:19:10

I was just like, damn it.

1:19:13

If I don't write down, surprise me.

1:19:15

Yeah. Everybody's going to get me one

1:19:17

piece stuff. So

1:19:20

I circled surprise me. Steven,

1:19:22

what did everybody do? You

1:19:24

got me one piece. Yeah.

1:19:29

I love them. They're all amazing people. But

1:19:34

one of them got me a

1:19:38

bootleg, Luffy's

1:19:43

hat, shaped

1:19:47

teacup that

1:19:51

turns upside down and goes on top

1:19:53

of a plate. And therefore the

1:19:55

plate is shaped like the brim

1:19:58

of a hat. Wow. It looks Sophie's

1:20:00

hat. So

1:20:03

you and I, both, the

1:20:05

official one piece translator

1:20:08

and collaborator from

1:20:11

the people we know and love, bootleg

1:20:14

merch for one

1:20:16

piece for Christmas. Oh

1:20:20

my god. But let's

1:20:25

see, that was the office stuff.

1:20:28

Interesting. I also got a,

1:20:30

not a mug, but I did get a tea cup,

1:20:33

a Japanese style, like you know

1:20:35

me. Oh yeah, yeah. That has

1:20:37

like one piece characters, a one piece

1:20:39

Jolly Rogers on

1:20:41

it. So that was cool as well. A

1:20:44

Frankie puzzle. And yeah, yeah,

1:20:48

some good stuff. But

1:20:50

let's see, the Santa Claus at home got

1:20:54

me, well, we, if, all right, this is,

1:20:57

this is personal, but we, my

1:21:00

wife and I both wrote letters to Santa

1:21:02

this year, because we're, we're nerds and we

1:21:04

have too much time. So

1:21:07

we both wrote letters to Santa and I,

1:21:11

what did I write? I

1:21:13

wanted new black

1:21:17

running shoes and black

1:21:20

socks, some new black socks. So

1:21:24

the reason such a

1:21:26

quote unquote simple gift is

1:21:29

because it is extraordinarily

1:21:32

difficult to buy shoes my

1:21:34

size over in Japan. So

1:21:36

I was like, dear Santa, please take

1:21:39

care of getting me shoes. They're probably gonna have

1:21:41

to be ordered online. And

1:21:43

part of the, part of the Christmas

1:21:45

present is dealing with any returns and

1:21:49

reordering that will have

1:21:51

to be done. Oh

1:21:53

no. Yeah. Yeah. There

1:22:00

were other gifts as well, but I

1:22:04

don't need to go into all of

1:22:06

my stuff. Did the

1:22:08

first try work out or did it require...? I

1:22:15

don't know yet. Have you got...? No, okay. Santa's

1:22:18

still on his way, but the socks are great. Nice.

1:22:24

Let's see, we'll go to Alex at

1:22:26

Ace Stars, who says, Hey

1:22:29

there OPP, question for all of you, regardless

1:22:31

of time being weekly. Has

1:22:33

there... Oh, I guess being

1:22:35

caught up and reading weekly. Has

1:22:37

there been any plot decision you were initially

1:22:40

against, but turned around on as the series

1:22:42

progressed or

1:22:44

the situation got acknowledged, given that sometimes

1:22:46

it might take years for

1:22:48

anything to get the spotlight in the story?

1:22:51

Wow. That's

1:22:58

a big question.

1:23:01

Well, I mean, I kind of, you know, I

1:23:03

mentioned some things regarding

1:23:05

the Kuma flashback that like, or,

1:23:09

you know, Kuma's past actions that

1:23:11

I had initially been, you

1:23:14

know, not super impressed with

1:23:16

like the rationale behind his

1:23:19

interaction with Zorro. For as

1:23:21

awesome as that was. And, you

1:23:23

know, obviously the takeaway is Zorro

1:23:26

being an absolute badass. You

1:23:29

know, that always kind of sat

1:23:31

odd. You know, it was a little bit of

1:23:33

a, you know, a little thorn in my side

1:23:36

of like, what? Why

1:23:38

would Kuma do that? And so, you

1:23:40

know, this is an example

1:23:42

of something that actually kind of paid off

1:23:45

for me that I finally saw in a

1:23:47

new light that made, you

1:23:49

know, much more sense. I

1:24:00

don't know, you got anything? This

1:24:04

may surprise some of you who

1:24:07

don't know me personally, but

1:24:11

I can be something of a stubborn

1:24:14

person. There's

1:24:19

a reason for that. I'm

1:24:23

a little bit unique in

1:24:26

that things I do,

1:24:28

things I say, I think inside

1:24:30

very much before

1:24:33

I say or do something. That's

1:24:35

not to say I'm a great thinker, it's just to say

1:24:37

I give time to what I

1:24:40

do and how I try to present my

1:24:42

ideas, myself, my words, my

1:24:45

thoughts. I don't always

1:24:47

do a great job of it, but

1:24:49

there is a lot of thought behind it.

1:24:56

When I choose something, when I choose to act or

1:24:58

say or do, it's usually

1:25:02

because I feel very strongly about

1:25:04

that particular thing or idea. When

1:25:10

I met with resistance or different

1:25:12

outcomes or

1:25:15

it's cheapened for some reason, I

1:25:18

take that very personally because I've

1:25:20

put a lot of thought into that and if it's

1:25:23

being misconstrued or misunderstood or

1:25:25

dismissed without much thought, that

1:25:28

hurts me deeply. I'm one of those people who

1:25:31

feels very strongly about the use of words and

1:25:33

language and meaning behind words. That

1:25:38

carries over to my thoughts on

1:25:40

the manga and developments in the

1:25:42

manga. If I feel very

1:25:44

strongly about a development or

1:25:46

how something turned out, it's

1:25:49

very difficult for me

1:25:51

to change my opinion. However,

1:25:53

if I am met with evidence that shows me

1:25:56

that I am undeniably...

1:26:01

and follow the incorrect, it's absolutely,

1:26:03

I will change my tune and

1:26:05

I will try to look at that at a different light.

1:26:12

There are very few instances that

1:26:15

I can even think of in the manga, if

1:26:18

any, where I felt

1:26:20

super strong about something and

1:26:22

later on thought, you know what, it wasn't

1:26:24

that bad. And

1:26:28

I won't say that it's impossible, but I would

1:26:30

say that it's very difficult. Leo,

1:26:35

not being involved in the defeat of Doflamingo,

1:26:39

which seemed like he was heading straight

1:26:41

towards that, still very upset about

1:26:43

that. I

1:26:47

stuck my heels in the ground about Skiyaki

1:26:51

not being the

1:26:54

Tengu, I forget his name,

1:26:56

Hinotetsu or something like that. I

1:27:03

was staunchly opposed to that

1:27:06

and I still am, I don't like

1:27:08

it as a story development. I

1:27:11

cannot think, this

1:27:13

is also, I'm a born of year

1:27:15

of the boar so it makes perfect sense, but

1:27:19

I cannot think of anything that occurred and I was

1:27:21

just like, in retrospect, you know what, yeah, I'm glad

1:27:23

we did that or yeah, I'm glad there was this.

1:27:28

I can't think of a single instance that

1:27:30

I, anything that has disappointed in me

1:27:33

in the story, I

1:27:35

came around on. I'm

1:27:38

just a stubborn person maybe or maybe I just know

1:27:41

that's how I feel, but I don't think there's ever

1:27:43

been anything that's changed my opinion of how I viewed

1:27:45

something. A lot of people have changed

1:27:47

their ideas on Fishman Island. I

1:27:50

still do not enjoy it. I cannot

1:27:52

really forgive how that was kind of just all, whoop,

1:27:54

whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, tidy it up in the end

1:27:57

after all that buildup. No, I'm sorry. Yeah,

1:28:00

that's a great

1:28:03

question. It is a great question,

1:28:05

yeah. But I have, there's nothing. I

1:28:08

think for me, usually

1:28:10

when I do feel, when

1:28:12

I'm like noticeably annoyed

1:28:16

by or disappointed by

1:28:18

something, it often

1:28:20

turns out to be the case that like,

1:28:23

you know, that was kind of by design

1:28:25

where, you know, I'm like, oh, why didn't

1:28:27

he do this or that? And then, you

1:28:29

know, the next chapter or two, then the

1:28:31

other shoe drops and, you know,

1:28:33

and then it's explained why, you know, such

1:28:35

and such a thing didn't happen or did

1:28:38

happen or, you know, whatever the case may

1:28:40

be. So I think

1:28:43

it's rare. Yeah, but I do. I

1:28:45

agree with you or I am in

1:28:47

a similar boat with

1:28:49

you where, you know, some some

1:28:52

things that I find disappointing are just

1:28:54

that's just kind of the way they

1:28:56

are. And there's no there isn't necessarily

1:28:58

a salvation for or I can see

1:29:01

the rationale for why he did it

1:29:03

the way that he did. But I

1:29:06

just still don't like it. And, you know, that's just kind

1:29:08

of a fact of life. And,

1:29:11

you know, and then you move on because the

1:29:14

next thing comes along and it's usually great as

1:29:16

as is always the case with one piece. Let's

1:29:21

see. I think lastly, we have be

1:29:24

at champagne brokey who has a

1:29:27

short list of questions here. I'm

1:29:30

not sure if this is what you were referring to earlier

1:29:32

or not. I think one of these

1:29:35

is okay. His

1:29:38

first question is, have you ever heard

1:29:40

of the series Esteban Child of the

1:29:42

Sun and what are your thoughts

1:29:44

on its connection with one piece? This

1:29:47

is the question I was looking forward to. Okay, you'll

1:29:49

have to explain this to me because I have not

1:29:51

I'm not familiar with this. The

1:29:54

reason I've been looking forward to this question is because I have

1:29:57

no idea what that is. I

1:30:02

can answer that very easily. I

1:30:05

honestly do not know what that is. If

1:30:09

I recall correctly, I do believe this

1:30:12

listener asked me this question

1:30:14

before and it was just a busy time and I don't think

1:30:17

I was able to get back to them and I apologize about

1:30:19

that. But I think what

1:30:22

they're alluding to is that there are some connections to

1:30:24

maybe like Nika and

1:30:26

I guess they're looking for some, I'm

1:30:28

guessing somebody put out theories or maybe they have

1:30:30

a theory that like maybe Oda was inspired by

1:30:32

this series. I would have to

1:30:35

look into it. I would

1:30:37

say that any source of inspiration is certainly

1:30:39

not impossible. But

1:30:44

I don't know if the age matches up

1:30:46

with what would have been influential to him

1:30:49

or not in

1:30:51

the story creating process. But

1:30:55

it's something I'll have to look into. But for

1:30:57

now, I don't know. I'm sorry. Yeah,

1:31:02

no, I'm not familiar with that either. His

1:31:06

next question is, do you think the

1:31:08

Frankie Dad cliffhanger will ever have a

1:31:10

payoff? This

1:31:14

is the same answer I give a lot of questions that

1:31:17

are like, do you think this will have a payoff? If

1:31:20

it serves the story, yes. If

1:31:24

Oda's like, oh, I might be able to leave

1:31:26

this in here and

1:31:29

that would make fans happy, then yes. If

1:31:32

there's no really great opportunity for it

1:31:34

or it doesn't present itself, then no.

1:31:38

I don't mean to give

1:31:41

such a flimsy answer, but that's really what

1:31:43

it comes down to. Oda's

1:31:45

not champing up a bit to give us Frankie's

1:31:47

dad. I

1:31:50

don't think that's the guy. I got to draw this. But

1:31:55

if there's a reason for it to show up, then I believe it will.

1:32:00

Yeah, I think there's, you know, you can

1:32:02

tell when he's really eager

1:32:05

to draw

1:32:07

something or to reach something

1:32:09

in the story because you'll usually

1:32:11

see, you know, he'll give you

1:32:13

reminders about it. He'll drop little

1:32:15

hints now and then and he

1:32:18

may be even, you know, get to

1:32:21

answer a little teasing SBS question

1:32:23

where he says, oh, well, you know, we'll just have

1:32:26

to wait and see when

1:32:28

this happens in the story. But

1:32:32

yeah, this has he's

1:32:34

never done anything more than just kind of treat it

1:32:36

like a little bit

1:32:39

of a throwaway bit

1:32:41

of backstory. And

1:32:43

it's kind of up to whether or not

1:32:45

he he has an idea to if

1:32:48

that's going to lead anywhere. Last

1:32:52

question here is, could Akainu

1:32:54

a lava man play the

1:32:56

role of Surtur, the harbinger

1:32:58

of Ragnarok on Elbaf? It's

1:33:04

absolutely possible. It

1:33:06

depends how far, you know, Oda

1:33:09

wants to tie in his

1:33:11

representations and his

1:33:13

allusions to mythology. But

1:33:18

I mean, Elbaf is

1:33:23

I've a lot of complicated thoughts on what's

1:33:25

coming down the pike for the next two,

1:33:29

two arcs, two, three arcs. And

1:33:33

Akainu being

1:33:35

the like a boss character here, I don't know

1:33:37

if if that's

1:33:39

necessarily in the cards in

1:33:42

the cards are required by the

1:33:45

bigger story. In

1:33:48

the realm of possibility,

1:33:51

if the world government I mean, certainly with

1:33:53

what's going on at Aged right now that's going to

1:33:55

involve the world, it's going to get the world's attention.

1:33:58

But do they know? that

1:34:00

the the the

1:34:03

road poneglyph is in in jeopardy

1:34:07

Or in danger of being collected like all four

1:34:09

in danger if that's

1:34:11

the case then yes, you have a reasonable Believable

1:34:15

set a point of believability for

1:34:18

them to all gather there, but otherwise. I don't

1:34:20

know I think it might be a little bit

1:34:22

too early for

1:34:26

that for that show of force to be there, but certainly

1:34:28

the world is going to be involved from this point

1:34:31

on But

1:34:33

could he represent the character yes

1:34:35

absolutely hmm Have

1:34:38

you played the new

1:34:41

the newer God of War games? Yes,

1:34:44

does it search her a character in those I have

1:34:46

not played The the new

1:34:48

the Norse ones I have

1:34:50

no idea. Okay. I couldn't tell you

1:34:53

Just I beat the hell out of a lot of

1:34:55

things and the Valkyries were hard you move on yeah

1:34:58

I Do not know

1:35:00

I'm sorry okay Yeah, I'm

1:35:03

not super. You know up on a

1:35:05

lot of the intricacies of Norse mythology

1:35:07

and so I was I was curious

1:35:09

if that was a You

1:35:12

know if that's a character who shows up big

1:35:14

time in that and that you know people would

1:35:16

be Familiar with

1:35:18

the the role there I do

1:35:21

think that in terms of

1:35:23

like inspiration You know you talked about like

1:35:25

story mechanisms of like you know how would

1:35:27

a kainu be involved in that I? think

1:35:30

just in general in terms of his creative

1:35:33

process just because there's been

1:35:35

such a a body of work

1:35:37

of Seeing these types

1:35:40

of questions get brought up again again, and

1:35:42

then seeing what happens with them in the

1:35:44

story is that I

1:35:48

think he when it comes to like an

1:35:50

arc that has a certain theme that

1:35:53

ties into folklore that

1:35:56

ties into fairy

1:35:59

tales things like that. What

1:36:02

was that? Mythology. Mythology, yeah.

1:36:07

We've seen him incorporate

1:36:09

details like that a lot of the

1:36:11

time. And it often begs

1:36:14

these questions of like, okay, well, if

1:36:16

this person is Little Red Riding Hood, then

1:36:20

who's the big bad wolf? That sort of

1:36:23

thing. And it feels like

1:36:25

almost invariably, we're

1:36:27

sort of barking up the wrong tree. He

1:36:30

will use these illusions

1:36:32

to this sort of mythology or

1:36:37

fairy tales or whatever to

1:36:41

kind of give a flavor to

1:36:44

hit your neurons that like, oh,

1:36:46

this is familiar. This

1:36:49

is reminding me of something. Like I might

1:36:52

have a previous emotional

1:36:54

response to this. But

1:36:57

it never is like a sort of paint

1:37:00

by numbers, like, okay, now this

1:37:02

person is gonna do this and this person is gonna do

1:37:04

that. And it's all

1:37:06

going to be a perfect allegory for

1:37:09

this story. It

1:37:12

feels like he sets up those. Well,

1:37:15

well, I would

1:37:17

argue that Wano is. Wano

1:37:20

was probably the closest. It's really closest.

1:37:22

But let me pull that back then.

1:37:25

Everything else, yes, you are absolutely 100% correct. But

1:37:28

Wano is, and for good reason,

1:37:31

probably the closest he's ever come to

1:37:33

just doing that story. Yeah, the story

1:37:36

of Momotaro. Yes. That

1:37:39

is true. But just because he did it there doesn't

1:37:42

mean he'll do it elsewhere. And because he has not,

1:37:45

for the rest of the chat, now

1:37:47

attack names, attack illusions, like

1:37:51

you said, the little flavor of like,

1:37:53

oh, yes, he could absolutely represent

1:37:55

that. But

1:37:58

like, I don't know that that's. particularly important

1:38:00

to the to the plot or it

1:38:03

informs us of what's going to happen

1:38:05

there. Momotaro is a little

1:38:07

bit different. Momotaro is definitely going

1:38:09

to be the

1:38:11

oni. It's going

1:38:13

to happen. Yeah, that's true. I'm

1:38:19

trying to remember some of the other, you

1:38:21

know, thing. Just all those different

1:38:23

little like children's rhymes and

1:38:26

things that we saw, nursery rhymes

1:38:28

that he used in the Colkeke

1:38:30

Island and settings like

1:38:32

that, where they're just kind of fun

1:38:35

allusions to things, allusions

1:38:37

with an A, and

1:38:43

he rarely kind of incorporates them

1:38:45

into a more

1:38:47

serious plot. But we will see.

1:38:50

I'm really curious to find out,

1:38:52

you know, what the story of Elbaf

1:38:54

will look like. You know, we have some

1:38:57

ideas. We have some kind of,

1:39:00

we're predisposed to envision

1:39:02

certain plot lines, but

1:39:07

we don't know until we get there. And I

1:39:09

think, you know, I think we could, I

1:39:11

would hazard a guess that we will probably

1:39:13

know a lot more about that by

1:39:16

the end of this year. That's my

1:39:18

hunch. I

1:39:20

know. Wild, wild branch to go out

1:39:22

on. But. All right,

1:39:25

Stephen, since since Oda

1:39:27

sometimes gets to do random stuff

1:39:30

in the SBS, I'm

1:39:32

going to tell you a random thing. Okay. You

1:39:34

should totally watch the

1:39:37

Japanese drama, Brush

1:39:39

Up Life. Brush

1:39:41

Up Life. I think the

1:39:43

English name is Rebooting. That's

1:39:47

the name of the rebooting. Yes, it's

1:39:50

rebooting and the English name is Rebooting and Brush Up Life

1:39:52

is the Japanese title. Oh, so catchy. Why didn't they use

1:39:54

that one? And

1:40:01

that goes for listeners as well. Well

1:40:03

if you're around the same age if you're if

1:40:05

you're not in your your 30s or late

1:40:09

30s I Maybe

1:40:11

maybe not for you. It's super dry like

1:40:15

an Asahi, but it's It's

1:40:18

very good. It's from the comedian bakar brit bakar

1:40:20

is Muh. Ah, okay It's

1:40:23

fantastic, and we just saw last night

1:40:25

his his recently made made for TV

1:40:27

movie uh Trespassers

1:40:31

is the English title, and I think it's what is the other

1:40:33

it's like She

1:40:36

knew channel bonsam or something like that Yes,

1:40:42

yes To highly

1:40:44

recommended very dry very

1:40:46

like where is this going and then holy

1:40:49

crap? This is hilarious stories

1:40:52

One is a movie one is a TV series definitely.

1:40:56

So it's still comedic. Oh My

1:40:58

god, it's super super

1:41:00

comedic Wow like I was on the

1:41:02

floor comedic And

1:41:06

I think because we're the same age.

1:41:08

I think also like it will it

1:41:10

will hit some especially brush up life

1:41:12

We'll hit some buttons really buttons Obviously

1:41:15

knowing Japanese culture as you do

1:41:17

mm-hmm. That's my that's my ichi-yoshi for

1:41:19

the week very nice. I Wish

1:41:23

I yeah, I wish I had come with them Some

1:41:26

kind of recommendation as

1:41:28

well No,

1:41:31

I did But

1:41:33

we did rewatch over

1:41:36

the over the New

1:41:38

Year's we did rewatch Tokyo Godfather's the

1:41:41

animated movie which Was

1:41:44

it I mean I've always

1:41:46

loved that movie I think it's a it's

1:41:48

a real a real classic and I and

1:41:50

I have to say that the I'm not

1:41:53

sure if the dub is Brand-new as well.

1:41:55

But the blu-ray version that they released has

1:41:58

a I don't think it was dubbed initially

1:42:00

on its original English release.

1:42:02

I think it was subtitles only. They

1:42:04

did a dub, we watched it dubbed

1:42:06

and it was really phenomenally

1:42:09

well done. I was quite taken

1:42:11

aback by how good it was. That

1:42:14

is high praise. Yes.

1:42:19

But yeah, I think that will cover

1:42:21

all of our questions. Thank you

1:42:23

all for sending in your

1:42:26

queries and your thoughts. We

1:42:29

always love to hear you

1:42:31

out and then try to give

1:42:33

you some answers. I guess

1:42:35

I'll have to study this Esteban Child

1:42:37

of the Sun thing and see

1:42:39

what that's about. Yeah, we'll do it too, yep.

1:42:43

But yeah, until then, I guess we'll probably talk,

1:42:45

we'll probably catch up in a couple of weeks

1:42:48

and find out what's new then. Oh,

1:42:51

what future me will know about One Piece. Oh

1:42:54

yeah. I hate

1:42:56

that guy, I'm so jealous. Yeah,

1:42:59

so if people would care

1:43:02

to follow you or contact you, where

1:43:06

can they find you, Greg? You can

1:43:09

look to the sky and shout, Ochimusha

1:43:11

108. Or

1:43:14

I guess you could search that on Twitter. That'll

1:43:18

work too. Yeah,

1:43:20

and you can, well, you can follow me on

1:43:22

Twitter at Translated Source, although I do not interact

1:43:25

with there, I'll look at stuff on

1:43:27

Twitter, but I don't actually actively

1:43:30

use it anymore. Or

1:43:32

you can find me on that blue sky

1:43:34

site at seventall.bsky.social.

1:43:41

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Steven. Nice talking to you,

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This is the Mongo Recap for volume 107.

1:45:14

I don't have the title. That's

1:45:17

what it's called. It is called

1:45:19

The Legendary Hero. And

1:45:23

yeah, we did talk about

1:45:25

the cover for this one.

1:45:28

This came out back in November and

1:45:30

we're finally getting to it now. There's

1:45:33

been a lot of stuff going on. And

1:45:37

it's okay because there isn't really

1:45:39

a ton of super important... Time

1:45:43

is of the essence type of material in

1:45:46

this one. And

1:45:48

you kind of get what you see on the cover,

1:45:50

which is Garp,

1:45:52

Sabo, Kobe, Kujaku,

1:45:55

Hibari, a

1:45:57

lot of the sword folks because most of this

1:45:59

volume... is the stuff

1:46:02

on Pirate Island with with Kobe

1:46:05

and Garp in them and

1:46:07

a lot of the the flashback of

1:46:09

what happened with Vivi and Sabo and

1:46:11

Cobra in the throne room and all

1:46:13

of that stuff. So not a ton

1:46:15

of straw hats which is why we

1:46:17

only have Luffy on the cover from

1:46:21

the crew. And

1:46:23

it's it's well timed because as of

1:46:25

this episode you know the egghead is starting

1:46:28

the anime obviously so we're seeing a lot

1:46:30

more of these characters in motion and I

1:46:34

remember I forget how much we talked

1:46:36

about the color schemes whether it was

1:46:39

kind of jarring or stuff but they're growing on

1:46:41

me. I think

1:46:43

Groove is the most surprising. The

1:46:46

green with it. Yeah the lime

1:46:49

green hair with the

1:46:55

with the the

1:46:57

jump the jumpsuits from the World of Ten

1:46:59

of Bombs. Yeah. Great.

1:47:02

But I really like Ibarri and

1:47:04

Kujaku. I really like their color

1:47:06

schemes. I kind of wish Ibarri

1:47:08

had a different hair color I guess. I

1:47:11

kind of like that she feels very pastel like

1:47:13

she feels like very like I like that she's

1:47:16

like... It should have been pink or orange.

1:47:18

Pink or orange. I was thinking like another

1:47:20

blue. But then everyone would think she's Kobe's

1:47:22

sister. Yeah I was thinking blue hair because

1:47:25

you know gotta have blue hair but

1:47:27

I guess only baby. I was joking about

1:47:29

pink or orange because we get so many

1:47:31

of them. Yeah I think that like I

1:47:34

was hoping something along the lines of like

1:47:36

how Yamato has the two tones in

1:47:40

his hair so I was trying

1:47:42

to like I was imagining something like

1:47:44

a cooler color for her. I

1:47:47

think my only problem is I guess you know

1:47:49

sort of that group of sort is

1:47:51

like pretty Aryan. I

1:47:53

was gonna say when we when

1:47:55

we first got this cover we definitely got our gripes

1:47:57

out about how like at least half of the people

1:47:59

on the this cover are blonde, which

1:48:02

is a little bit weird

1:48:04

for Oda. Yeah, I

1:48:06

remember it's like the sketches too. Sometimes

1:48:09

I kind of liked some of the things that

1:48:11

Oda was going for more, but I

1:48:13

don't know. Yeah, yeah. I think also I'm just

1:48:15

like an older jaded fan, so some of the covers

1:48:17

don't really grab

1:48:19

me like they used to. But

1:48:22

then again, I kind of go back and look at old covers,

1:48:24

and I'm like, well, there's nothing that special about it. I think

1:48:27

I was just younger, I was just like hyped for like,

1:48:29

and he's, you know. Yeah, I wonder

1:48:32

when he's coming up, because

1:48:34

obviously he's drawing in black and white. And

1:48:38

so I wonder when he comes up with his

1:48:40

characters, if he's like, okay, this character has light

1:48:42

hair, or this character has black hair. And

1:48:45

in other words, like, is it gonna be white or is it gonna be

1:48:47

black? And then like secondarily, he

1:48:49

has to be like, okay, wait, which

1:48:51

color is this actually, when he finally

1:48:53

has to draw them in color? Right.

1:48:56

Yeah, that's the impression I get during

1:48:58

the speed drawings. Yeah,

1:49:02

he hasn't actually thought about the colors yet

1:49:05

until he has to call them. Yeah, thank you

1:49:07

for bringing that up, Sam. I wanted to bring it up

1:49:09

too. It's like, oh, he had no idea what he was

1:49:11

doing until he was coming up with this volume cover. But

1:49:14

I think that's one of the coolest

1:49:17

things about the HRO staff account. I think that's

1:49:19

one of my favorite things about art just in

1:49:21

general is just seeing the process. That

1:49:24

means so much to me. So I'm really thankful

1:49:26

we, you don't see that from a

1:49:28

lot of manga artists. So

1:49:30

I really appreciate that we do get to,

1:49:34

be behind the curtain. Yeah, it's definitely

1:49:36

worth it. I mean, obviously Oda is

1:49:39

very particular about the way that he

1:49:41

produces his art and

1:49:43

particularly the manga art specifically,

1:49:46

but it is really nice that he does

1:49:49

these experiments and then we get something really

1:49:51

cool out of it, like seeing how he

1:49:53

puts it all together. Wow,

1:49:56

it's very neat. So

1:49:59

the undersides. of the cover. This is

1:50:01

a very, very, very

1:50:03

understated Panda Man, hidden

1:50:06

Panda Man here. And actually it kind of, it

1:50:08

does tie into one of the questions in the

1:50:10

SBS. It took me a while to find it.

1:50:13

So Hibari on

1:50:15

her, so you know, she has that

1:50:18

like shoulder pack, which is kind of

1:50:20

like, kind of like one of those drawstring backpacks, right?

1:50:22

With like the flap over the top or something. And

1:50:26

there's a little like plushy, like a little

1:50:28

like, you know, cell phone charm plushy

1:50:30

that sticks out of the top of

1:50:33

the flap. It's a little

1:50:35

bare. And that is

1:50:37

what has turned into Panda Man.

1:50:39

It's like he's crawling out of

1:50:41

her bag onto the underside of

1:50:43

the cover illustration, which

1:50:46

is pretty subtle. I

1:50:48

feel like he's done a lot more crazy

1:50:50

ones recently. So that

1:50:52

was interesting. But I

1:50:54

think it's more interesting once you see

1:50:57

the SBS question about it. So

1:50:59

we'll get to that a little bit

1:51:01

later. Oda's comment here, he

1:51:03

has a kind of weird,

1:51:09

his illustration that he did

1:51:12

is basically

1:51:14

of Chopper,

1:51:16

pre-time Skip Chopper, like

1:51:18

with the Sakura petals falling. And

1:51:22

he's standing on two legs, but

1:51:24

his face and his head is

1:51:26

a realistic reindeer head. And it

1:51:28

looks like his hooves

1:51:31

are fairly realistic too, but

1:51:33

he still kind of has

1:51:35

Chopper's proportions, which

1:51:38

is an odd experiment there.

1:51:41

And his comment is, so

1:51:44

the live action one piece has

1:51:46

been unveiled. It's a huge

1:51:48

hit around the world. I'm so excited about that.

1:51:51

And it occurred to me that, you

1:51:55

know, it's quite possible that Luffy's actor

1:51:57

in Yaki-kun, as he calls him, and

1:51:59

the others could

1:52:01

end up becoming like big stars

1:52:04

in Hollywood. And

1:52:06

that would mean that then I

1:52:09

am friends with Hollywood stars. Isn't

1:52:11

that crazy? And

1:52:13

he says, all right, everybody in the cast, please

1:52:15

don't forget about me with

1:52:17

little cry, cry, Kanji. And

1:52:20

he's like, all right, back to drawing by

1:52:24

myself in my room. Here

1:52:27

comes volume 107. As

1:52:30

a working artist in Hollywood,

1:52:33

basically, I

1:52:35

really relate with that. It's like, oh yeah, I

1:52:38

know some interesting people. Well, gonna just stay in

1:52:40

my room and draw all the time. Yeah,

1:52:43

I thought about you. Everyone congratulate me. No,

1:52:45

I'm kidding. That's what I'm saying. I think

1:52:48

it's very funny. Like that ode to something.

1:52:51

Yeah, but you live in Hollywood. You're

1:52:53

friends with Hollywood stars, Steve. Yeah.

1:52:58

Yeah, remember that one time you saw the Home Ec

1:53:00

teacher from Superbad? I did. Nice.

1:53:04

For people that don't know. I did work

1:53:06

in a store in Beverly Hills and I kinda just kept

1:53:09

it kinda cool with any celebrities that came in because there

1:53:11

would be a lot of them. But

1:53:13

when the Home Ec teacher from Superbad came in, I

1:53:15

had to just say, you

1:53:18

were in Superbad. That would be really

1:53:20

funny if you said to

1:53:22

her, if you don't work in this

1:53:24

store, get out of this store. She

1:53:28

would not have remembered her line and would have

1:53:30

been like, who's this fucking asshole? Fogal, hi.

1:53:35

You've talked about me for too long now. Let's

1:53:37

talk about this volume. Yeah, so yeah, this has