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I think that music is, at least for me and most

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people I know, it's the greatest medicine.

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Welcome to the one you feed throughout

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time. Great thinkers have recognized the

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importance of the thoughts we have, quotes

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like garbage in, garbage out,

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or you are what you think ring

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true. And yet for many of

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us, our thoughts don't strengthen or empower

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us. We tend toward negativity,

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self pity, jealousy, or

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fear. We see what we don't have

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instead of what we do. We think

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things that hold us back and dampen our

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spirit. But it's not just about

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thinking. Our actions matter. It

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takes conscious, consistent, and creative

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effort to make a life worth living. This

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podcast is about how other people keep themselves

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moving in the right direction, how they

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feed their good wolf Yea,

1:05

thanks for joining us. Our guest this

1:07

episode is Langhorne Slim, a celebrated

1:10

singer songwriter described by The New Yorker as

1:12

having lead Belly's gift for storytelling

1:15

and Dylan's ability to captivate crowds.

1:18

We caught up with Langhorne in between gigs

1:20

to talk music, sobriety, and life.

1:22

You can learn more about Langhorne Slim

1:25

and this podcast at one you Feed

1:27

dot net slash Langhorn, Hi,

1:30

Langhorn, Welcome to the show. We're glad you could

1:32

be here, glad to be

1:34

here. Hello, Hello, Um.

1:36

I first saw you, I think in Nashville

1:38

one evening. I was traveling on business and on

1:40

a on a lark, I went out to a club to

1:42

see you play. It's been it's probably been five

1:45

years at least, and and I was, I

1:47

was totally blown away. And I've seen you a couple of times

1:49

in Columbus since. So uh, great

1:51

live show. And I've I've always

1:53

enjoyed, enjoyed your music. Thank

1:56

you very much. I appreciate it. Our

1:58

podcast is called The One You

2:01

Feed, and it's based on the old parable

2:03

where there's a grandfather who's talking with his grandson

2:05

and he says, in life, there are

2:07

two wolves inside of us who are always at

2:09

war with each other. One is a good wolf

2:12

represents kindness and love and joy,

2:14

and the other is a bad wolf and represents

2:17

greed and fear or hate or pick

2:19

pick your poison. And the grandson

2:22

stops and he thinks and he says, well, grandfather,

2:24

which one wins? And the grandfather says the

2:26

one you feed. So yeah,

2:29

the way I like to start the interview off is

2:31

just to ask you kind of what

2:34

does that parable mean to you in both

2:37

or either your life or your work. Yeah.

2:39

In my case, there were two old men, and they were

2:42

old Jewish men that lived in

2:44

Philadelphia that told me that, and in

2:46

their own way, those were my grandfathers.

2:49

Um. But I love that. That's

2:51

that's what you sent me, um when

2:54

when you when you got in touch with the message. And I

2:56

read that and thought, how how

2:58

cool it was. Off. Guys like me are

3:01

fortunate to have people you want to talk to them about

3:03

their music or what they do. Um,

3:05

it's not it's usually driven with

3:09

kind of less interesting,

3:11

um soulful topics

3:15

and dynamics. So so I really do

3:17

like that and appreciate the

3:19

the chat. What does it mean for me?

3:22

Probably what it means for us all. I mean absolutely

3:25

there's two. I guess there's the

3:29

the dark demon of

3:32

like you said, of fear and greed

3:35

and

3:37

and all that, and then you

3:39

know the the light

3:42

and the

3:44

the true soul and all

3:46

that, and so it's just kind of figuring

3:49

out as as we go through life,

3:52

what at least for me, what feeds

3:54

my soul, what feeds the When

3:57

I say light, I don't mean as far as weight,

4:00

because I do like

4:02

heavy things, heavy heavy and

4:04

soulful things. But

4:07

you know what feeds the

4:10

the love and the light, and what

4:15

what kind of detracts from from

4:17

the shittier the shittier things.

4:19

For me, it's music, it's friends,

4:22

it's creating, it's traveling,

4:26

it's keeping very very very busy or

4:28

else I get. Um.

4:30

I think I'm always a strange one, but I get strange

4:32

in in not fun ways.

4:35

So it's a daily

4:38

it's a daily weird ass

4:40

adventure. Um that sometimes

4:42

feels and sometimes it's like

4:45

you're walking you can feel your footsteps and they

4:47

feel heavy. And then other days you just walk in and

4:50

singing a little tune in your head and

4:52

and the stunder shining everything kind of feels

4:54

it feels cool. Um.

4:56

And then there's a lot of shoot in between. So it's just

4:59

kind of the venture in the

5:03

these paths that we choose in

5:06

all of that, Yeah,

5:09

exactly, And I like how you talked about

5:11

the things that that feed you feed

5:13

you, and music is definitely one for

5:15

both Chris and I, which is why we try

5:17

and get musicians on here as often as we can,

5:20

because it's a it's a big part of

5:22

of what feeds our good wolf. Um. You

5:24

brought up the you brought up your grandfather's

5:26

and that was actually a question I was going to go to

5:28

at some point. So you've got a song on

5:30

your most recent record called Song

5:33

for Sid, which I think is about one of

5:35

your grandfathers. Do you want to you want

5:37

to talk a little bit about that song. I

5:41

love that all man a

5:44

praise. Here's where he belongs,

5:47

hanging where the prey wants

5:50

go, where let go.

5:58

I can tell you a bit about that song. Uh, I

6:00

just can tell you a bit about my grandfather's. They

6:02

were huge, huge figures

6:04

in my brother and I was life. Um.

6:08

But yeah, my grandfather's, my

6:10

grandparents in general, had a huge part in raising

6:13

my brother and I and uh kind

6:15

of forming us into

6:18

the into the men that we are. Um.

6:21

Both of them passed in the last five years.

6:24

Um. Both of them I had

6:27

spent significant time with at

6:29

the end of their their lives,

6:31

their physical lives here and

6:35

and was very I consider those to

6:37

be some of the greatest gifts that I've been given.

6:39

Was to have them both um

6:41

in my life, and to have been fortunate

6:44

enough through what I do to to be

6:46

able to be close to them at at

6:49

their end, and to have heard

6:51

out of their mouths that they were ready to move on, that

6:53

they enjoyed their lives, that they loved their

6:55

families. Uh, and and parted

6:57

some wisdom to me and said, you please,

7:01

don't don't spend a whole lot of time being

7:04

too sad about this, because uh,

7:06

it is time to get the f out of here. And

7:09

and it's been real and I love you very much and

7:12

uh and all that so for

7:14

me in my thirty three years, that those were two, you

7:16

know, to the most important guys

7:18

to me and and incredibly

7:21

significat. Yeah,

7:24

yeah, that's a. That's the

7:26

song is a it's a touching song. And there's

7:28

there's one other song where you, um,

7:32

you reference your grandfather and you say, and

7:34

it's a line that I really like and I think about

7:36

a lot, which is that, um my

7:38

grandfather once told me that all pain

7:40

hurts the same. And the idea is basically,

7:43

even though other people may have less than

7:45

us, or we can think about this person

7:47

has no access to clean water, or this person

7:49

was, you know, abused by their parents,

7:51

but realizing that hurt is hurt, um,

7:54

and we have to find ways to deal

7:56

with that in ourselves. I really like that part of that

7:58

song. Well, thank you, that's

8:00

exactly that was exactly the conversation.

8:03

And that's what that's what he told me about. It

8:05

retives relative to you and relative to

8:07

me and relative to what I was doing with

8:09

it. So what are the other things that

8:12

I noticed recently? Uh?

8:14

That has that has come up in your life? Is you've

8:16

recently, um, become sober.

8:18

Can you share a little bit about I

8:20

guess what brought you to that point and how

8:22

that experience has been for you so far. Yeah,

8:25

it's it's a new experience. Um.

8:28

It was a long time coming. But I've

8:30

been for about five months. And

8:32

when friends of people ask me what why and

8:35

what brought me to it? I think what brings a

8:37

lot of those of us that I s over it

8:39

to it, which is a lot of whatever

8:42

the vice that we liked, um, And

8:44

for me it was I drank. I drank

8:46

as much as I could. I tried to drink at all. I

8:49

left some for those that are still drinking um

8:53

and uh, and really through since

8:56

I guess I'm about fifteen, kind

8:59

of tried everything, um,

9:02

thirty three now, and

9:05

it became it

9:08

became more of a weight, more of a burden,

9:10

and something that was just more in my way. Then

9:14

then I want something. And somebody told me a long

9:17

time ago. And I didn't take this as a religious

9:19

vibe really when she said it, but she I

9:21

was talking to her about it. Um,

9:24

I'm a man full of love and full of passion

9:27

and that that well within

9:29

myself as deep. And I was talking to her about kind of where

9:31

I wanted to go in relationships and in music

9:33

and a career, and she said, well, you

9:35

can't serve two guys, she said. And

9:38

again I didn't take that as a religious thing. I took it as

9:41

if I want to love this

9:43

human being in my life, you know,

9:46

hypothetical human beings a single

9:48

man right now, but um,

9:50

you know, and and put energy and love into

9:53

this human being. How can you do that if

9:55

you're spending Let everybody spend

9:57

so much time and energy drinking

9:59

or doing drugs, but some of us do, and some of

10:01

us did, so how can

10:03

you put put all of yourself or the best

10:06

of yourself into that in the same of music

10:08

and art UM and I got to

10:10

a point even though I knew when I was fifteen and I started

10:12

drinking, I said to my high school sweetheart, I just saw

10:15

yesterday it was a birthday, I said, Eventually

10:17

I just started drinking, and I said, eventually, I will

10:19

have to stop this to get to where I need to go UM.

10:23

And it was on my thirty first birthdays and was

10:25

a long time coming, but I said to myself,

10:28

today is Today is the day. And

10:31

I haven't looked back since and should have been

10:33

wild. I think when you are, when

10:37

you are invested in UM,

10:41

being high and drunk, it's

10:43

all that and medicated for

10:45

for a large part of your life. When you when

10:50

you transfer into silber

10:52

state. I've heard a lot of silver people say

10:54

this and I kind of nothing of

10:56

it, or maybe even rolled my eyes at it. But it's its

10:58

own and oxicating feeling

11:01

in and of itself, and it's its own trip in

11:04

and of itself. And I

11:08

I'm doing that dance right now and it's uh,

11:10

it's been really cool. Congratulations

11:14

on on on five months. I've

11:16

I've walked that road myself,

11:18

and you're right in the beginning. There's something

11:21

very h I just remember

11:23

sort of being blown away again and again

11:25

with these insights like whoa, whoa,

11:28

I you know, and and uh and

11:30

and I agree that it is a certain point. I think most

11:32

people who end up giving it up it is

11:34

because they finally realize

11:37

that that's the that is

11:39

the god they're serving, you know, they're serving

11:41

the god of their alcoholism

11:43

or drug addiction, and that that is the most important

11:46

thing. And that's I don't think anybody

11:48

intends for it to be that way, but that's the way it ends

11:50

up. And you want to talk about feeding the bad wolf.

11:52

I mean, that's the big bad wolf,

11:55

right, you know. And again

11:57

it's not When I talked about this, which I'm

11:59

happy to and I'm open about it, I don't

12:01

mean it for any I don't know what everybody else's path

12:03

is and and and people's experience

12:05

with it. So I talked very much on a personal level,

12:08

but I know that, I

12:11

mean, why why I love music and why

12:13

I do what I do in such

12:15

a passionate way is to is

12:18

to get to my to my center, to

12:20

my truth and to and to be

12:23

real and raw. And

12:26

for me that

12:28

became really clear that I wasn't being real and

12:30

raw by

12:33

kind of um medicating

12:37

my fears and my my discomfort

12:39

and my anxieties, and to to have a

12:41

breakthrough in my relationships in

12:44

this life. Uh. In one of

12:46

those relationships being the

12:48

music is obviously very important

12:50

to me. I felt like in order to have a true breakthrough

12:52

with that, and then a true breakthrough romantically

12:55

the next time that comes into my life, um,

12:58

break through the ceiling that I've breached

13:00

a certain level, but daddy,

13:03

nothing to break through it. This

13:05

was something that I needed to, um to have

13:07

in my life and to see what it was all

13:09

about. Um.

13:12

You know, look looking looking through

13:14

these these weird sober brown

13:16

eyes as opposed to these weird uh

13:19

fucked up brown eyes. So yeah,

13:21

the uh the first time that

13:23

that you uh that people

13:26

in general, myself, I guess I should say, experience

13:29

something sober, whether it be getting up on

13:31

a stage and playing music for the first time

13:33

sober, or dancing somewhere the first

13:35

time sober, or you know, intimate

13:37

relationships. It's like whoa I have. There

13:40

has been sort of a nice protective

13:42

barrier around me all this time,

13:44

and now I've I've sort of taken that off and

13:46

and The thing about your show I mentioned earlier

13:49

when I saw you in Nashville was I

13:52

was, I was sober at that at that point I

13:54

went there and UH in your music did

13:56

have that sort of transformative effect

13:58

of sort of free you know, giving that

14:00

that that freeing from the day to day

14:03

UH cares and moments that alcohol sometimes

14:05

gives, UM, but it's wonderful

14:07

when you get it other ways. And so

14:10

I was, I was, really, I really enjoyed that.

14:13

I really appreciate that. Thank you. So

14:16

how is it five months? Are you finding

14:19

it to be a challenge? Are

14:21

you are you wrestling with uh, with

14:24

with staying sober or right now? Is it? Is it pretty

14:26

pretty easy for you? The

14:29

benefits and the beauty that

14:32

has been the last five months far outweighs the

14:34

difficulty of it. I find um

14:38

like to be beautiful and wonderful,

14:41

but also difficult and a challenge. Uh.

14:44

I think that that's going to be the case

14:47

whether I'm drinking or doing drugs

14:49

or sober. Um.

14:51

I'm not struggling with the I'm very stubborn

14:53

and set in my ways, and as weak as I can be, I can

14:55

be that strong. So it's like if

14:58

I kind of if

15:00

I if I say to myself, this is what I'm doing. And then

15:02

I started talking to uh, people

15:04

that I that I don't know on recording

15:07

devices like you, and say, because it means

15:10

I'm really ready. I'm ready for it. Man.

15:12

Then I'm embracing it. And just

15:14

like I was when I was you know, when I was drinking,

15:17

I drank, I drank a lot and

15:19

uh, and now I don't and I'm and I'm into that.

15:22

So I'm definitely an

15:24

animal of extremes um and I

15:26

don't know if that's going to change much. But

15:30

but no, I mean, you

15:34

know, I think that the worst thing that has

15:36

happened was I went to a party

15:38

that they that they have in Nashville, really fun

15:41

party. It was a bunch of my friends

15:44

and people dance and drink and

15:46

have have a great time. And it was and this

15:48

was some months ago, and I went in and I found

15:50

that it was it was, in fact, a bit

15:52

more difficult for me to dance

15:55

and like get into it. And I laughed

15:57

and I was like, man, that really sucks. And

15:59

I thought to mess up, Well, if that is the that's

16:01

the worst thing. And I had a recording session the next

16:04

day and this morning, I look at that's the worst thing that's

16:06

going to happen that I'm gonna feel a little

16:08

bit more uncomfortable in this kind of you

16:10

know, crowded bad dance party situation.

16:13

So I'll be able to get up tomorrow morning and sing my ass

16:15

off at this thing. Then it's then it's a prefair trade

16:17

off. Um,

16:20

and it gets easier to dance. You know. It's just

16:22

it's like it

16:24

ain't it ain't these things booze or drugs or

16:26

whatever that that a lot and dance looks. Use

16:28

that as a as a metaphor. I don't just mean, you know, shaking

16:30

your ass on the dance floor. Um,

16:33

if you're if you're able to do it with it, you have it.

16:36

It's within you. So I

16:39

don't know, man, It's it's a complicated subject

16:41

because you know, taking certain things throughout

16:43

my life did inspire me creatively

16:46

at times, did did further the process.

16:48

And since I've been sober, that has um

16:52

said my creativity. So it's I

16:54

don't regret things that I've

16:56

done necessarily. Well, I do have

16:58

some regrets to cancer that's on

17:00

the pynolysis, But I think it's just the past,

17:02

um, and there

17:05

was there was good things that happened in those years

17:07

and shitty things. Um.

17:09

And within the five months,

17:11

it's definitely it's where I need to be and

17:14

it feels right and that dance I'm

17:16

in rhythm with with my own steps with that,

17:18

So that's that's cool by me, um.

17:21

And I'll keep going. I'll keep

17:23

going in that direction, um.

17:26

You know. And see, like I said, I told myself

17:28

when I was a kid that that eventually this

17:30

day would come and that would further

17:32

than me with with my with my things, that I'm truly

17:35

in love within life, which is this

17:37

music and performing. And

17:41

you know, I still got the dream. The dream is still

17:43

a lot that I will find a wonderful uh

17:46

you know, relationship and still

17:49

with that. So I'll

17:51

put I'll put this new self up

17:53

against those things and see see how

17:55

it works. And that that that takes time, that

17:57

doesn't happen overnight necessarily up

18:00

and it's you know, I think what you said about I

18:02

think all of us the that

18:05

the alcohol or the past. I mean, there was magic

18:07

in it for a long time and that's why we why

18:10

we did it. It's just at a certain point that magic

18:12

runs out and and theed and

18:15

you know, I think I always say that nobody's gonna

18:17

nobody's gonna get into recovery until

18:19

the pain of it is worse than the pleasure of it. And it takes

18:21

a water get there. And if we're talking about the two

18:23

wolves, you know, feeing the two wolves,

18:25

You're right, nobody starts to do

18:27

these things in a such an intense and addictive

18:30

way. It feels like you're like you're

18:32

feeding the light. And it can

18:35

if you're a poet or or

18:37

a painter, or a musician or whatever you are, or

18:39

just trying to be comfortable socially, it

18:41

feeds that fun like you

18:44

know, like I could talk a little bit easier,

18:47

I feel like I look better or whatever.

18:49

It is, like it makes you feel better. And like you

18:51

said, eventually you realize

18:53

that it it um you'd be better

18:55

off without it. And it's likes to feed the dark, the dark side.

18:57

So that was true for me,

19:00

man, That's that's what got me to to

19:02

one and out of it. Yeah, I agree

19:04

with you your your insight that all

19:06

that stuff is sort of inside us anyway,

19:08

and it's a matter of how do we get it out? And

19:11

and I think alcohol

19:13

and drugs can sometimes be a shortcut to

19:16

getting that stuff out, but it's you

19:18

hit a point where it doesn't doesn't work anymore,

19:21

and then it's just a it's another level of

19:23

discovery of how do I, how

19:25

do I excavate these things that are inside of

19:27

me that I want to get out into the world and I don't. If

19:29

you don't have that shortcut, that's

19:32

right. And if you get into that and embrace

19:34

that, and I'm just you know, it's

19:36

beginning my journey with that. That's a beautiful

19:38

thing because that's a longer journey

19:41

for your own personal truths and your

19:43

own you

19:45

know that it's a it's a deep, deep

19:48

well of that that we all have

19:50

within us, and the shortcuts

19:52

could get there. You're right to those songs or

19:54

those poems or this or that, But

19:57

yeah, I'm more into the long game in

20:00

the short game at the moment. So yeah,

20:03

well, congratulations, good good luck to

20:05

you with that. It's uh, you're certainly

20:07

you're in a you're in a profession that is

20:10

that is certainly challenging in

20:12

that regard to be to be kind

20:14

of around it all the time. But but

20:16

early in my recovery. I played in bands and

20:18

was around it a lot, and it's certainly, you

20:20

know, there's plenty of examples of people that do

20:22

do it, so there are I

20:24

enjoy a good challenge, and I've never been too

20:26

afraid of not

20:29

fitting sitting in. What I've learned

20:31

actually is at thirty, maybe more so when

20:33

we were really young. But there's I think there's

20:35

just as many of us in this in the field

20:37

that I am and that are that

20:40

are not doing it as there are that are doing it.

20:42

Um, it just seems to be what what happens.

20:44

Eventually a lot of us decided

20:47

that enough enough, you know. Yeah,

20:49

it's that that pace will will

20:52

wreck wreck you after a time, that's

20:54

for sure. So

20:57

UM, I want to ask you a couple

20:59

other questions. Is about about a few different

21:01

songs um of years off a couple

21:03

of different records that I've really enjoyed. I

21:05

think maybe one of my favorite songs of

21:08

years is uh is

21:10

Diamonds and Gold. Do

21:12

you anything you want to you want to share

21:14

about that song. You

21:17

can have all the diamonds, you

21:20

can have all the goal, but

21:23

someday you're still going to get old. You've

21:27

got to learn to get happy along

21:30

the way. It's

21:33

my mother's favorite song of mine. It's

21:36

one of the songs that that kind

21:38

of comes to you that I

21:40

didn't have to work too hard at, which I

21:42

really love when that happens. All songwriters

21:44

appreciate when that happens. It's not as often as

21:46

I'd like it to to happen.

21:49

And it was really just self

21:51

therapy, advice to myself,

21:54

a reminder you

21:56

know that that

21:59

it's all right, it's all liked to smile. Yep,

22:02

you gotta get a little happy, happy along

22:04

the way. Speaking of your mom, did you

22:07

did you recently? Uh do a trip

22:09

with her? And where you guys did a duet? We

22:11

did. She got on stage and sang that tune with

22:14

me um in Philly,

22:16

we had a Pennsylvania

22:19

Lang. Warren is a town in Pennsylvania. I'm from the Turn

22:21

outside of Philly, so it was like a big kind

22:23

of homecoming show first there and she

22:25

got up and saying, and then I took her to

22:28

one of my best friends in the world is from Galmida, and

22:30

so I've been able to go there a few times, quite a few

22:32

times, and I took her for her sixtieths there

22:34

and had a little solo show and

22:37

she joined me on

22:39

stage for that. Do

22:41

you get some of your musical talent from your parents? My

22:45

mom is a great singer, could have been a professional singer,

22:47

but didn't didn't take it there. Um

22:50

my dad, I'm not sure if he's got a musical account,

22:52

but he's uh a music

22:55

lover. So I had and my grandparents

22:57

were huge, huge, huge music

22:59

lovers. My grandpop Jack was a jazz

23:01

drummer. Um,

23:04

and so I grew up with with a lot of a

23:08

lot of music around and a lot of passion

23:10

and sensitivity in my family

23:13

from music. Got cousins that are my

23:15

cousin David actually taught me how to play guitar,

23:17

taught me from Nirvana tunes and

23:20

yeah, it's it's in the family. I

23:23

think I heard you say that Polly was the first song

23:25

you learned to play Polly Manatala,

23:28

not to play guitar. My

23:30

mom tried to get well, I like beanked to

23:32

get this guitar fixed up, and she agreed

23:34

to fix the guitar up, and then I got um

23:37

some lessons for my first lessons,

23:39

I didn't learn anything from because the guy was trying to show

23:41

me like teach me scales,

23:44

which I still don't out to do scales, and teach me

23:46

like aarrowsmith out and I wasn't into aarro smith,

23:48

so I couldn't learn. And then, um,

23:51

I really looked up to my cousin. He was in this great

23:53

punk band in New Jersey and I would

23:55

go and listen to his band play and was just so blown

23:58

away by it. And the feeling was like my

24:00

first feelings of real life, this

24:02

is what I'm gonna do, and just feeling wild

24:04

and free and yeah, because remember

24:07

that feeling, It's incredible and

24:10

yeah, so he thought it took not

24:12

learning from like in a

24:14

you know, a real legiment of like these are your scales,

24:17

is your homework and here's your arrow from the song

24:19

to just like in his basement teaching me Polly.

24:22

That that blew the doors wide

24:24

open for me. What's

24:27

next for you musically? You mentioned you were in

24:30

doing a recording session recently. What

24:33

what what's coming up? Well,

24:37

you know, this has been like time off quote

24:39

unquote this winter, but I'm not good

24:41

at time off, so I've been I've

24:43

been right. Yeah, you know, I've

24:45

been writing for the next record, which hopefully we'll record

24:47

in the fall, but we'll see how that all pans out. And in

24:49

the meantime, I've just been working on UM

24:54

but working on a song called Animal

24:56

actually that it will come out. We're gonna

24:58

have a limited Vinyl Eminence release

25:00

to Records to a Day that comes out in April,

25:05

and working on some demos

25:07

and just writing for what

25:10

will be the next record, and

25:12

then we're doing I've got a tour coming up

25:15

UM next month. We're gonna

25:17

get to do Conan O'Brien again on

25:19

the eighteenth of February. So keeping keeping

25:22

busy in the off time, gotta

25:24

keep moving. How

25:26

was it playing on Conan the first time?

25:29

It was great? Um, that

25:31

old thing was crazy because he

25:35

Um, you spent a lot of time

25:37

to Yeah, like a publicist

25:40

and manager and you try to get

25:42

on these shows and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

25:44

I gotta call or like a

25:46

text from this painter friend, mean,

25:49

Natalie Irish, who I

25:52

only kind of sort of no, she's a friend now, but at

25:54

the time I only kind of sort of knew, and she really loved the band,

25:56

my sons and stuff, and she said, I just got

25:58

on Conan O'Brien I have this feeling,

26:02

the spiritual feeling or something that he will

26:04

love your music. So if you want to send me

26:06

a CD, and when I do the show, I'll try to get

26:08

it to him. So I thought that was a lovely thing

26:10

and very kind and sweet. Um,

26:12

but I didn't think anything really of it, that it would pan

26:14

out to anything. So I sent the CD lo

26:17

and behold, she went on and gave it, gave a Vater

26:19

album of one of his producers, who then gave

26:21

it to him. He listened to it and really

26:24

connected and love the album,

26:26

so he wound up getting in touch with

26:28

us like personally. He wrote me a note

26:32

telling me how much you liked the record and that

26:34

he was hoping that we could come on the show, and um,

26:38

it's just been I've been a fan of his

26:40

and watched his shows since I'm a kid, so it was

26:42

just pretty incredible. So we got to go and do

26:45

a show the first time, and then played

26:47

the Troubadour in l A and he came and joined the band

26:49

and played a few songs with us, and now we'll go

26:52

back and do it again and a little under

26:54

a month. So it's

26:56

been cool. Cool, It's can be what song

26:58

do you think you'll play? Oh? Uh,

27:01

well, I know, I know a song will play. Will play a song called

27:03

Past Lives. Okay, yeah, that's off

27:05

the latest record, So yeah, we're excited

27:07

about that for sure. Well,

27:10

I think we're coming to the end of

27:12

our time here. Is there anything that

27:14

you want to talk about related to the theme or

27:16

or anything else that we haven't covered. I

27:18

think that music is, at least for me and most

27:21

people I know, is uh is great. Is

27:23

perhaps the greatest medicine to

27:26

music. Nonalcoholic

27:29

beverage to music, or if you drink

27:31

of a highly alcoholic beverage. Well,

27:34

thank you very much for taking the time to join us.

27:36

I know you have been kind of all

27:38

over the place, so I'm glad we were able to squeeze

27:40

it a little bit of time and and talk me

27:43

too. I appreciate it, and I look forward to

27:45

seeing you somewhere out there. All right, Take

27:47

care, Thanks, thank you, Take

27:50

care bye.

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