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6:14

Mister you there? Hi,

6:17

Ed. How are you today? I'm good. And once

6:19

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6:21

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6:24

Yes. Happy to do it. Thank you. Now

6:26

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6:28

I guess, we left off talking about how

6:31

you were in communication with

6:34

And you had more information about the

6:36

Galen Maxwell? Yes.

6:39

Galen Maxwell is a

6:41

party of interest of the seventy

6:43

York and the FBI in

6:46

a very deep history in

6:48

the Jeffrey Epstein cases

6:51

and Jeffrey Epstein's history. That

6:53

the public wants to understand.

6:56

Now during Maxwell is

6:59

in kind of a standoff with

7:01

the FBI and the Southern

7:03

District of New York and the

7:05

United States Department of Justice.

7:08

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7:10

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7:13

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7:25

basically over with

7:27

the death of Jeffrey Epstein, which

7:30

she might be right as

7:32

far as the further prosecutions

7:36

of the four girls that arranged

7:38

the grapes under the

7:40

employee of Jeffrey Epstein

7:43

and Julie Maxwell. So

7:46

there doesn't seem to be any numerous

7:50

coming, and it may be

7:52

very home right for a new

7:54

arrest and we'll cover that. I don't wanna

7:57

stay on just what I have to

7:59

say. I don't wanna answer your questions

8:00

yet. So please go ahead. Yeah. You

8:03

mentioned in this email you sent me on the fourteenth

8:05

that the SDN one are having problems

8:07

in the arrest of Epstein's forced staff

8:09

that set up each victim

8:11

right now. Why are they having trouble making

8:13

a case against them?

8:15

Well, traditionally, the justice

8:18

department, which is the f FPI

8:20

and the U. S. Attorney's office

8:22

and lawyers and

8:25

FBI agents. They

8:27

would have co operators from

8:30

the crimes -- Mhmm. -- from the crimes

8:32

that take place that they're

8:34

going to arrest people

8:36

under. In this

8:38

case, they don't appear to

8:40

have collaborators like

8:42

jury Maxwell. Which they

8:44

really need to make it

8:46

easier for the jury to

8:48

understand the

8:50

trial. Because

8:52

these co conspirators that

8:55

arrange the grapes are facing

8:57

a great deal of prison time.

9:00

Which your free Epstein's crimes.

9:03

So this is a big problem.

9:05

And the only weaknesses

9:07

from what I'm

9:09

seeing all the actual

9:11

victims who

9:13

were made that could go

9:15

into court and testify against

9:18

these

9:18

four workers of Jeffrey

9:21

Epstein's who set up the interviews

9:23

for the rapes, set up the

9:25

meetings for the

9:26

rapes, and actually participated in

9:29

making sure that these poor

9:31

victims were readily

9:33

available for Jeffrey Epstein

9:35

to

9:35

wake. So please continue. Right? Yes.

9:37

So what what you're saying is that, normally,

9:40

the the federal government, the cops,

9:42

they need, like, a to

9:44

flip somebody. They need someone to become an

9:46

informant to to rat out their friends and and testify

9:48

against their friends, their former cona fanatics. And

9:50

in this case, we don't have that. But

9:52

in the but we didn't have that against Epstein.

9:55

You know, all we had were these thirty young

9:57

girls, these victims, and they were able to

9:59

get a prosecution in in that

10:01

instance. And now those

10:03

victims now have been

10:05

ruled. The courts ruled that they're

10:07

their victims. The courts ruled in their favor

10:09

that they have been, you know, both civility and

10:11

criminal because he plead

10:13

guilty. So now why can't what

10:16

their testimony wouldn't be enough?

10:19

Keep

10:20

in mind that the

10:23

US attorney took

10:25

a very bold step US

10:28

attorney in New York

10:30

City took a very bold

10:32

step in arresting

10:34

Jeffrey Epstein. Right. He's the

10:37

he's the first prosecutor.

10:39

The first United States attorney,

10:42

mister in New York

10:44

City, that was willing to

10:46

take that bold

10:47

step, which was

10:49

remarkable, and we give him

10:51

support for

10:52

that But so much has

10:55

been round since the

10:57

July arrest that Jeffrey

10:59

Epstein about his

11:01

rogue affairs and

11:03

his craziness and his

11:06

damage to America

11:08

that was not known before

11:10

by the US turny. The

11:13

American agencies and the

11:15

foreign agencies don't

11:17

talk to each other. Mhmm. So

11:19

they don't share the inside information.

11:23

And a lot has come to

11:25

the table about your free

11:27

app steam and Jolene Maxwell

11:29

and Jolene Maxwell's

11:31

father, Robert Maxwell, the

11:33

super spy, And a

11:35

lot has been presented. That was

11:37

not known before July

11:40

of two thousand and nineteen

11:42

at the time that a Jeffrey seen

11:45

arrest. Please go ahead. And

11:47

you also saying your notes here that SDNY

11:49

cannot arrest the Gileen

11:50

Maxwell. that for that same reason that they

11:53

don't have an informative flip?

11:57

Well, they don't have a number

11:59

of issues if they arrested during

12:02

Maxwell. The first

12:04

question would be,

12:06

has she been

12:08

involved in her father, Robert

12:10

Maxor Spine business,

12:13

where there's no question in that

12:15

of those in the spying

12:17

business for Israel and

12:19

for other agencies.

12:23

So that would require

12:25

an honest stance from

12:27

germanium, which would change

12:29

the entire trial.

12:32

Or questioning of before

12:35

the trial, and it would

12:37

be a rupture of

12:39

the trial and really

12:41

sabotage trial into

12:44

an espionage trial,

12:46

which is not what anybody wants.

12:49

It's a big problem. It's a stalemate

12:51

this month. Very

12:53

serious

12:53

problem. But but haven't we reached a

12:56

point now, the word where the the public is

12:58

aware of the the espionage and and

13:00

intelligence

13:00

gathering, that went on with this

13:02

group that the the cats

13:04

out of the

13:04

bag? The cat

13:07

is out of the bag. Well said

13:09

that, but the government

13:11

has not affirmed

13:14

or validated the spine

13:16

in the espionage. And

13:18

has and and the government

13:21

is probably not gonna go

13:23

near the espionage

13:25

and the spying. As a

13:27

normal way

13:30

of prosecution, keeping

13:32

them on with Alex Acosta state to

13:34

the

13:34

public. That this is a an intelligence

13:36

case, not just a criminal

13:39

case. And he gave Jeffrey

13:41

Epstein a no press execution

13:43

agreement in day four girls and no

13:45

prosecution agreement because

13:47

of that and ripped up a fifty four

13:49

page indictment from the

13:51

federal government. So you've

13:53

got real problems

13:55

here for the federal government

13:57

that could be cured

13:59

they can be cured by

14:02

the Virgin Islands. Right. I was just gonna ask you

14:04

that next. There was a

14:05

lawsuit filed in the in the Virgin Islands, but attorney

14:07

general in the Virgin Islands that that help

14:09

with that? Yes. The

14:11

attorney general of the Virgin

14:13

Islands, the armaments they

14:16

did a remarkable bold

14:18

step. Like US attorney

14:20

Birmingham in New York City, the

14:23

attorney general attorney

14:25

general of the Virgin Islands

14:27

filed an amazing horse on

14:30

Wednesday

14:31

against Darren Indike

14:34

and his co executor of

14:37

the Jeffrey Epstein estate. And

14:41

it said sport that Rapes were

14:43

taking place at

14:46

Jeffrey Epstein's Island.

14:50

There attached to Saint Thomas

14:52

through two thousand and eighteen,

14:56

ongoing weeks of underage

14:58

girls. Amazing worship.

15:01

Yeah. And she also mentioned too that some of

15:03

the girls who was young is eleven years old.

15:07

They have really made

15:10

very serious claims

15:12

as a governmental agency

15:16

The attorney general of Virgin

15:18

Islands have set

15:20

forth in claims that

15:22

the girls were extraordinarily young.

15:25

And underaged. And these

15:28

are very serious crimes,

15:31

and in the innocent, they want

15:33

the forfeiture. Of the

15:35

two islands that have valued

15:37

in lawsuit at eighty six

15:39

million dollars. And that's

15:42

a big hit to

15:44

the Jeffrey Epstein assets.

15:46

That's a very serious

15:49

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15:51

Jeffrey Epstein's partner Darren

15:52

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16:34

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16:36

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16:37

No. No. No. No. I I'm saying Florida. I'm at Virgin Islands.

16:39

I apologize. I'm at the the one in the Virgin

16:41

Islands. She's identified eleven year

16:43

old

16:43

girls. But she's

16:46

an attorney general. Okay.

16:48

And she's not with the

16:50

United States Department of

16:52

Justice. She's the

16:55

civil law enforcement official

16:58

at the Virgin Islands.

17:01

So the US

17:03

attorney, the justice department, has

17:05

a presence, very

17:08

substantial presence

17:09

in Virgin Islands.

17:10

So this

17:11

case may

17:12

move to the Virgin

17:15

Islands. Because

17:17

that's where a lot of the rates took

17:19

place. Right. But aren't there issues down

17:21

there too as well? I I believe

17:23

it's the governor. Virgin Islands is some kind of a shady

17:25

kind of a part of the United States. I'm not

17:27

sure exactly how it works. You know,

17:30

the governor down there was a former New

17:32

York City

17:32

cop. Right? And his wife was

17:35

employed by Epstein? Well,

17:38

this is Steven Oppenheimer. Again,

17:41

I'm not accusing the Virgin

17:43

Islands of thin shaded. That

17:45

was it over minute using the Virgin

17:47

Islands of thin shaded. Yes.

17:50

Jeffrey had to be deployed --

17:52

Yeah. -- at his

17:54

financial trust company on

17:57

Saint Thomas. The

17:59

former wife of the former

18:01

prime minister of the

18:03

Virgin Islands for a number

18:06

of

18:06

years. As his general manager.

18:08

The answer to the question is yes.

18:11

Okay. So now And

18:14

and the the governor down as a former New

18:16

York City

18:16

cop. Right?

18:17

Yeah. As

18:19

we noted, Korea, history. I think

18:21

you might be talking about the

18:24

husband

18:24

of the one that was employed by

18:28

Jeffrey Right. Or are you talking

18:30

about the current

18:30

one? The one that was it changed.

18:33

And it's different. No. It's changed. Okay. So

18:35

those issues now would be cleared up, but we don't have

18:37

any problem with those issues.

18:39

Well, the the newer governor

18:42

is the man that

18:44

ran against. Okay. The

18:47

former prime minister or former

18:49

governor whose wife

18:53

was employed for

18:55

Jeffrey Epstein's Financial Trust

18:58

Company at Saint Thomas. So

19:01

it's changed. Got it. There's been a

19:03

substantial change against there an

19:05

invite Jeffrey Epstein's co

19:07

defendant, which should calm

19:09

down very scared now.

19:12

Very scared down in, like,

19:14

could end up being a defendant

19:16

in a minute in

19:18

the Virgin

19:19

Islands. As a coping spirit

19:22

start to wipe to all these

19:24

rapes. It could end up being

19:26

a criminal defendant overnight.

19:28

He could face criminal charges in That's right. How come

19:30

a lot of these people aren't facing criminal charges

19:32

in Virgin Islands?

19:34

Well, the first

19:37

step in that occurring

19:39

took place on Wednesday.

19:41

Okay. This

19:42

Wednesday, we have to

19:44

applaud the attorney general of the Virgin

19:47

Islands for the bold

19:49

step of same

19:52

and articulated the

19:55

claims of rape of

19:57

underage girls is

19:59

young, is eleven or

20:01

twelve years old. By Jeffrey

20:04

Epstein and I would end like

20:06

on Saint

20:07

Thomas' Island that

20:11

Jeffrey Epstein owns,

20:13

little Saint James. The

20:16

rapes occurred on a little Saint James.

20:18

So now And this is

20:20

in the

20:20

lawsuit. Right. So,

20:23

you know, you you say this with confidence. You

20:25

mentioned the name Darren and Ike over, and you're not

20:27

you you you have Opperman knowledge of

20:28

this, these environmentalists, or or what do you

20:30

basis on? Absolutely. I have first hand

20:33

knowledge that Darren and

20:35

Dyke, the executor

20:37

of the six hundred million

20:39

dollars is a primary

20:42

person with knowledge

20:44

of the grapes occurring right

20:47

there in the Virgin Islands.

20:50

And that on the United

20:52

States code eighteen

20:55

three seventy one makes

20:58

Darren O'Dijk, LIBOR

21:02

for criminal rips, which are

21:04

free upstate. And

21:06

that's gonna remove him from the six

21:08

hundred million dollars that he

21:10

stole of Jeffrey

21:12

Epstein's

21:12

money. That's gonna remove him. didn't

21:14

trust the executive. Maxwell would

21:16

be guilty of the exact same crime. She

21:18

was aware she facilitated. And also,

21:21

too, refresh my memory. Wasn't her

21:23

computer and cell phone and stuff seized and

21:25

they found child pornography on older equipment?

21:28

I

21:29

can't validate what

21:32

they have at the FBI

21:34

because you have to go to

21:37

those files particularly in

21:39

order to validate it. But let's

21:41

look at the big

21:44

problem that down in like the

21:46

co conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein's rates,

21:49

and Maxwell, the co conspirator

21:52

of Jeffrey Epstein's rates

21:55

could face in the Virgin

21:57

Islands. There's

22:00

no political reason

22:03

in the Virgin Islands to

22:05

give them leniency

22:07

as they receive from Alex

22:09

Acosta. There's no reason

22:11

for the attorney general

22:14

of the Virgin Islands to

22:16

give them any benefits

22:18

for whatever reason

22:21

they receive from Alex

22:23

Acosta.

22:23

They're not

22:24

gonna get a pass

22:27

from

22:27

prison. In the

22:27

Virgin Islands. That one

22:30

showed in the

22:32

lawsuit filed this past Wednesday

22:34

by the attorney general in Virgin Islands.

22:37

That changed the whole case yet. Yeah. No.

22:39

Yeah. I can see that now. I only read an

22:41

article about that

22:41

lawsuit. Do you have a copy of that lawsuit?

22:45

I didn't review the

22:47

whole lawsuit yet,

22:50

but I am working

22:52

with lawyers and staff

22:55

involved in that lawsuit --

22:57

Okay. --

22:57

right now,

22:58

right this moment. That does sound

23:00

like AAA good avenue

23:03

because to the Virgin Islands, that's a lot of money.

23:05

You know what I mean? That's

23:07

a significant amount

23:09

of assets they they could start seizing and

23:11

stuff like that. That's a and

23:13

so they have a lot of motivation down there to go

23:15

after this. Now now that you say this, this does

23:17

sound good. But I you also said too that

23:19

the the SDNY could not move

23:20

forward. Is that because of the the

23:23

activity down there in the Virgin

23:24

Islands? Well, let's look

23:27

at what's taking place. The

23:30

first agency of

23:32

a government to charge

23:34

an actual ongoing

23:37

underage

23:38

girls' rape through

23:41

two thousand and eighteen,

23:43

not counting the charges

23:45

against Jeffrey Epstein himself and

23:47

the Southern District of New

23:49

York the first governmental agency

23:52

to charge, this

23:54

whole monetary

23:56

affair of rapes against little girls

23:59

is the Virgin Islands that turned

24:01

this

24:01

past Wednesday. First

24:04

time, first time

24:06

that it's all been laid out in

24:08

a very, very

24:11

strong lawsuit.

24:13

By a governmental agency.

24:16

George's time. Who who could we

24:18

expect to see on a

24:20

list of criminal prosecutions in

24:22

the Virgin Islands?

24:25

The name that

24:28

took the six hundred million

24:30

dollars from the southern district of

24:32

New York is the

24:36

partner and attorney. He

24:39

claims his free

24:41

attorney, which is alright --

24:43

Mhmm. -- is Darren Indike.

24:45

Darren Indike is as guilty as

24:47

Jeffrey Epstein is for the rights

24:49

he enabled the rates to

24:52

take place. He

24:54

filed all of the

24:56

state paperwork in

24:58

Saint Thomas about Financial

25:01

Trust Corp, which is the

25:03

mechanism for all

25:05

this money of six hundred

25:07

million dollars. And it is more than six hundred

25:09

million dollars. We all know

25:11

that much more, closer

25:13

and over a billion

25:14

dollars. That's going to come back

25:17

for the victims

25:18

and for

25:18

the governmental fines. So

25:22

Darren and Dyke,

25:23

number one defendant, should

25:26

be arrested in the Virgin Islands.

25:29

And during Maxwell,

25:33

ma'am.

25:33

No. Number two declined

25:36

it. Can be

25:38

arrested in the Virgin Islands.

25:41

And the four girls

25:43

that work for Jeffrey Epstein

25:46

in the appointments can

25:49

be arrested in the

25:51

Virgin Islands.

25:52

Everything is gonna change

25:54

mount is going to be a burst

25:57

of the bubble. This

25:59

case just

26:00

exploded. How

26:02

about Alan Deschwood. Do you think he could

26:04

be charged? No.

26:07

No. I don't see

26:10

and I should be very

26:12

conservative in when I say I

26:14

don't see. But

26:16

in order to charge

26:19

Allen Duchowitz, you would have

26:21

to have these

26:24

people that we're talking about

26:26

that are the co conspirators of

26:28

Jeffrey Epstein's rights. Testify

26:31

against island virtualts

26:34

that he actually raped girls

26:36

in the Virgin Islands.

26:39

That would have to be the basis

26:41

of charging our endowatts.

26:44

Now that's a

26:47

big

26:47

case. A gigantic case. Yeah.

26:49

Now he

26:52

go ahead. Now he

26:54

is being accused by these young women. Now

26:57

what what little a patient with

26:59

jurisdiction in CBQs of of these crimes

27:01

being committed in the version

27:03

of

27:04

One question. Was

27:08

did it happen in the

27:10

Virgin Islands at any given time?

27:13

Right. The one that made

27:15

the charge was

27:19

Virginia Roberts, I

27:22

believe. And

27:24

that charge

27:26

spoke to Jeffrey Epstein's

27:30

house -- Mhmm. -- ninety

27:32

seventy

27:32

first Street. I believe.

27:35

I believe there's one other accused as

27:36

well. Are

27:38

you thinking

27:40

about any farmer? I think so. He

27:42

lost

27:42

you. Yeah. Any farmer is

27:45

trying to serve a civil lawsuit

27:48

on doing Maxwell

27:50

right this minute. On and

27:52

she's been unsuccessful in getting

27:54

her horse served

27:57

on Jerry

27:59

Maxwell. So

28:01

she's trying hard. She

28:04

might be another one with an

28:06

allegation against their choice

28:08

that could possibly

28:11

go back to the Virgin Islands. I'm

28:13

not saying it does,

28:15

but their choice is not happy

28:18

about this.

28:18

Not at all. Now, you said on a

28:20

previous show that you were lifelong friends with

28:22

one of Deschamps' attorneys and a friend

28:24

of

28:24

his. Are you in contact

28:27

with Deschamps?

28:28

No. No. Because due

28:31

to

28:31

which is

28:31

a little bit busy today with

28:35

what he has to do next Tuesday.

28:37

Yeah. But the the Virgin Islands would know where to

28:39

find them if they wanted to arrest them. They

28:41

could definitely they could definitely look. You don't

28:43

want to know. Don't you

28:44

wait till not hard --

28:47

Yeah. -- and dirtier, it's does

28:49

not avoid due process. He's

28:51

not Jerry Maxwell

28:53

or the others. He's a

28:56

very strong advocate of the

28:58

rule of law and claims he's not

29:00

guilty of anything. Right. I

29:02

want I want to articulate that

29:05

Alan Dirchen which says said repeatedly

29:09

that he's being

29:11

blemished and tainted and

29:13

he's not guilty of anything.

29:15

Right. So let's

29:16

put on both sides of

29:19

the page so the public

29:21

understands it, they're towards claims

29:22

innocence. Right. But when he was sued for

29:25

defamation by Brad Edwards,

29:27

and and over these allegations, he

29:29

paid to settle that lawsuit.

29:32

Jeffrey Epstein paid to settle

29:35

that lawsuit. Actually

29:37

knows Dave and who is

29:39

David

29:39

Boyse, who is the

29:42

plaintiff's

29:42

lawyer. You're right. You're right. But but my question is, is

29:46

Epstein paid Dershowitz's settlement?

29:49

Yes. Yes. Has this

29:51

been reported in any

29:52

way? He said you Oh,

29:54

yeah. The case that was in front of judge Robert

29:57

w suite is

29:58

the case you are talking about,

30:01

which is Virginia Robert

30:04

Scuprey versus Jerry

30:07

Maxwell. Right. That case

30:10

was settled

30:11

on the

30:11

eve of trial,

30:13

and the payment came from Jeffrey

30:16

Epstein. Large

30:18

payment. Okay.

30:21

I might be thinking of the the

30:23

the settlement between the attorneys when there was a

30:25

a loss between the attorneys for

30:27

defamation. No.

30:29

The that's a very distinctive

30:31

case that Brad Edwards

30:33

won in Florida. Brad

30:36

Edwards broad

30:39

account to suit against

30:41

Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah.

30:43

When Brian Edward's originally

30:46

sued Epstein, for rapes

30:48

of underage

30:49

girls, Epstein's border

30:52

lawsuit against Brad Edwards.

30:55

Right. And that's the case

30:57

you were talking about.

30:59

That in which collected from

31:01

Jeffrey Epstein on

31:04

that case, The answer is

31:06

yes. Okay. Now I have a

31:07

question for you. It's a separate case. Right. It's

31:10

a separate case. Now

31:10

the thing is

31:11

to pay damages. We gotta take a commercial

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31:15

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31:18

Darren and Ike because of the situation

31:20

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which is a longtime attorney. Is is oh my

32:29

correct about that? Do you believe you

32:31

can maintain and partial

32:33

and be unbiased in this

32:36

Yes. Without a question, because

32:39

I'm dealing with hard,

32:41

black, and white evidence

32:43

own. I'm interpreting

32:46

evidence for experts.

32:50

My role is not my

32:52

opinion. My

32:55

capacity as an expert

32:57

on Epstein Incorporated is

33:01

that documents in

33:04

possession of governmental

33:06

agency shows

33:09

fraud and crimes.

33:12

Actual documents filed by Darren

33:14

Anderson shows

33:17

crimes. By Financial Trust

33:19

Corp. And Jeffrey Epstein.

33:21

This is breaking news.

33:23

This hasn't

33:23

been announced yet. Okay.

33:26

I'm giving you something that's not

33:28

out there yet that I'm discussing

33:31

on inside information with

33:33

experts that are looking at this

33:36

case.

33:37

Okay. Which portion

33:38

was the breaking news? III

33:41

might have The breaking

33:44

news is that, down

33:46

in Dike, Jeffrey

33:49

Epstein, filed criminal

33:54

rights on government documents

33:56

in the Virgin Islands.

34:00

Okay. In the

34:02

Virgin Islands. The

34:04

filings for Financial

34:06

Trust

34:06

Corp. And Jeffrey Epstein in

34:09

the Virgin Islands. Are

34:12

crimes. That's

34:13

breaking news. And this is the trust that was

34:15

destroyed. Right? This

34:16

is the trust that was created two days

34:19

before his

34:19

his death. But

34:21

the trust created

34:22

two days before Jeffrey Epstein died

34:24

in prison in New York City,

34:27

that's gonna fall apart. Okay.

34:30

That's that's gonna be

34:32

thrown out of court. That's

34:34

totally ridiculous.

34:38

Totally. There's gonna be a legitimate

34:40

trustee put in by one of the

34:42

government agencies. Okay. Darren

34:44

and Ike is gonna be

34:46

thrown

34:46

out. As a trustee with Richard Khan. They're not

34:48

legitimate. They're criminals. Okay. Let's

34:50

take a little commercial break here. We're

34:54

with Stephen Hoffmanberg is the former mentor

34:56

and partner of Jeffrey Epstein at Tower

34:58

Financial. He's the main

35:01

source of the book dead men's tell more

35:03

tales. It's our sixth interview with

35:05

mister

35:05

Hoffmanberg, and I don't think we're ever gonna add that

35:08

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35:10

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35:10

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35:12

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35:14

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Okay. Welcome back to the Opperman I'm

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your host, Private Investor, Ed Opperman. We're here

39:26

today with Steven the former

39:28

business partner and mentor of Jeffrey

39:30

Stein, the former Financial for ran

39:33

the New York poster for for

39:35

a while there. And

39:38

main source of the book, dead men

39:40

tell no tales.

39:41

Now, mister Hoffman, a couple of questions

39:43

for you. One,

39:46

you said.

39:47

You you spend a you're spending a lot of time on it as you you're

39:50

consumed with this case right now. You're working nine to twenty

39:52

four hours a day. Are you being

39:54

compensated for your work here in

39:56

this

39:56

case? Financially? No.

39:57

Not yet. Not yet.

40:00

But, you

40:00

you suspect you're gonna get a piece of the

40:02

six hundred million. You talk about it all the time.

40:05

It's on a tenured song. You think he didn't get

40:07

a piece of that.

40:10

I hope I hope

40:13

that I would

40:14

be down the road. Okay. Yes.

40:17

I

40:17

do hope. Okay.

40:18

And you're gonna remember your buddy

40:20

had operated. Right? No touch on the air?

40:23

Alright. Let's move on. Let's move

40:25

on. Question that I

40:27

remember you at

40:29

and I have nine years

40:32

of time.

40:32

Yeah. Of knowing Jeffrey

40:36

Epstein, and I'm one

40:38

of the guys that helped

40:40

him become so terrible and

40:42

enabled him to do this. If I

40:45

were to go into trial

40:47

and not

40:49

plead guilty, in nineteen

40:53

ninety five, Jeffrey Epstein

40:55

would be in

40:57

prison today.

40:58

And he would have never had the opportunity to

41:00

do this. And I should have gone

41:02

to trial

41:02

in nineteen ninety five to

41:05

tell the whole truth.

41:07

The whole story. There is

41:09

a grave injustice

41:13

for the

41:14

victims. And and for yourself too as well, we spent a lot

41:16

of time in prison. Is this one of your biggest

41:18

regrets that she didn't I wish

41:20

you would've done things

41:22

differently? Yes.

41:24

My major regret. And,

41:27

of course, being a Monday

41:29

morning quarterback is the

41:31

best quarterback around, is that I

41:33

didn't go to trial. Because if I were

41:36

to go into trial,

41:38

Jeffrey Epstein would have been found

41:40

guilty with his co

41:41

defendants. And they would all been in prison.

41:43

Mhmm. And the judge would

41:45

have seen my

41:48

cooperation

41:49

substantially. And the

41:52

judge was not aware

41:54

of all of this

41:57

into the last chapter of the

41:59

judge's life, the same judge that did. My case was the

42:02

judge that did the

42:04

case against

42:06

Doreen Maxwell. Ma'am,

42:08

judge. Wow. Yeah. Judge

42:10

Robert Sweet, same judge. And he

42:12

understood it because

42:13

we did

42:14

a trial we did a proceeding

42:17

in front of him,

42:20

in two thousand thirteen, two

42:22

thousand fourteen,

42:24

this judge had

42:26

a proceeding with us.

42:30

And in that proceeding,

42:32

we understood Manavrak was

42:35

December fifth two thousand

42:37

and thirteen. In that

42:39

proceeding, we understood

42:43

that Jeffrey Epstein was a primary

42:46

mover in my case

42:48

because it all was put

42:50

on the preceding record. In

42:53

front of the federal court in the

42:56

southern district of New York. And that's all

42:58

gonna come out because

43:00

that's gonna be

43:02

very

43:02

surprising. To the public -- Mhmm. --

43:03

what actually happened in the Jeffrey

43:06

Epstein case in the

43:08

federal

43:09

court in the southern district, you know, it's all going to come

43:12

out. You've mentioned a couple

43:14

of

43:14

times these four girls

43:17

who helped facilitate notate these these

43:19

rapes. Now, these four girls, were they also first victims

43:22

before they went to work for Epstein procuring

43:24

other girls?

43:26

It

43:26

would be

43:27

hard to classify them.

43:30

And we

43:30

have talked about them, Sarah

43:34

Kelly. Adriana Ross, Leslie Goff,

43:36

now Deere Buck and Over.

43:38

As where would

43:41

you consider them?

43:44

Debating Jeffrey Epstein individually as

43:48

victims. That's an

43:50

open debate

43:52

to call them a victim. They four

43:55

of them have a

43:57

very unique relationship history,

43:59

which I forget them. I

44:01

enjoy natural. Very unique.

44:05

Mhmm. Can

44:06

you share

44:07

with us? Well, I

44:10

don't wanna be critical

44:12

to the four girls because

44:14

they may end up

44:18

being defendants. They are named

44:20

now in many lawsuits individually

44:22

for what they did

44:25

to set up the rapes. They may not be

44:27

named in the caption

44:30

of the lawsuit as a

44:32

name defendant. But

44:34

their misconduct is explained and

44:37

will be continuously explained in

44:39

front of the courts. So

44:42

I got a presensitive to get

44:44

to process to a

44:46

degree. Different from diode

44:49

in die or Jerry Maxwell

44:51

or Jerry Epstein very different

44:53

from those

44:55

three people. Okay. One more thing

44:58

that popped up in my head when you were talking

45:00

about that trust down there in the Virgin

45:02

Islands. Zoro trust that

45:04

that owns the property over there in

45:06

New Mexico. What do you know about that whole situation with a

45:08

lottery? Somehow Zuro Trust came into possession of

45:10

a lottery ticket, a winning lottery ticket, do you know anything

45:12

about

45:13

that? I

45:16

can't explain the

45:19

details

45:19

of that. I haven't gotten to

45:22

it yet. I have

45:24

to get to it. And this

45:25

week, my work

45:30

changed

45:30

substantially. On the Jeffrey Epstein saga because

45:32

of the Virgin Islands'

45:35

amazing new lawsuit. Filed

45:37

this week, that's gonna change. And that's the

45:40

problem in the whole journey. That's the only

45:41

story. Yeah.

45:42

That does

45:43

seem to be

45:45

a huge It's

45:47

a big change to the Jeffrey Epstein.

45:49

It's gonna stop the mystery.

45:52

Yeah.

45:52

The mystery is gonna go away.

45:54

Because the Virgin Islands has the evidence

45:58

that nobody else has. They

46:00

just need to understand it.

46:04

And that's my job is to explain the

46:06

evidence, the documents, and

46:10

explain how

46:12

Financial Trust

46:14

Jeffrey Epstein's company went down in, like, operated

46:17

this massive criminal

46:20

enterprise, and they're still

46:22

operating

46:22

today. Which is amazing.

46:25

And

46:25

and if

46:26

there's a lot what are they doing? What

46:28

is what is their they're

46:31

running a very huge

46:36

business with over six

46:38

hundred million dollars

46:40

of money

46:41

that belongs to these victims

46:44

and to the

46:45

government. And the need

46:47

for the ruling, six

46:48

contact millions of dollars. And the the nature of businesses is

46:51

investing stocks and bonds, stuff like that. What are

46:53

they doing with They have real

46:55

estate. They have giant

46:58

investments this week, the

47:01

Virgin Islands asked for a forfeiture

47:03

of eighty six million dollars worth

47:05

of real estate. From

47:07

the Jeffrey Epstein estate,

47:10

from the

47:10

Jeffrey Epstein six hundred million

47:13

dollars.

47:13

They're running a giant giant

47:16

business in their paying themselves

47:19

for fees as

47:21

professionals and executors, and

47:24

they bring millions over

47:26

their income. Down in dike, who is

47:29

now on a multibillionaire. Jeffrey

47:32

Epstein's partner is running

47:34

the six hundred million dollars

47:36

today. Mhmm.

47:37

And he's

47:37

got a residence

47:41

on Saint Thomas. Right

47:43

there. So this

47:46

man is in deep trouble now and

47:48

he was shocked when

47:50

he saw that lawsuit on.

47:52

He did after repeated questions

47:55

by the media, and

47:57

his comment was

47:59

very weak. Very,

48:02

very weak. Right. You

48:03

spent a lot of time talking to Goldman this

48:06

week? Yes.

48:08

I spent time talking to Oracle.

48:11

Man, about how thoughts and

48:14

about Julian

48:15

Maxwell, Jesus, Isabel

48:17

Maxwell's cold spring. Which is the sister of

48:19

Jolene Maxwell. And I wanted to hear their

48:22

side of the page

48:24

as

48:24

to where they're coming from.

48:27

And what would you

48:29

find out?

48:31

Well, we believe we were

48:35

gold in the Ray Maxwell believes

48:38

that there's no longer

48:40

a case in the southern

48:43

district of New York. Against

48:45

them based on the complicated

48:50

rogue crimes that

48:53

Jeffrey Epstein performed and Robert

48:56

Maxwell's spine

48:58

background and

49:00

his daughter, Maxwell's part

49:02

in the father's front background

49:05

and how that cooperation

49:09

after their father's death rather

49:11

than Maximus Supus by died,

49:13

moved to Jeffrey

49:15

at in town some

49:18

called beachholder documentation. So they take

49:22

the position. And this

49:24

is before Wednesday that

49:28

there will be no way that

49:30

the southern district of New York

49:32

will proceed against during or

49:36

anybody in

49:38

the same

49:42

zone with your lane such

49:44

as the four girls.

49:46

And they

49:47

believe that is because there's

49:50

too much National Security involved --

49:52

Mhmm. --

49:52

for that to take place, but that

49:55

got changed this

49:58

week.

49:59

Because the Virgin Islands does not

50:01

have a national security

50:04

risk

50:04

-- Right.

50:05

-- at

50:05

all. At all. Isabella

50:08

Maxwell? What does she do for a living? Is she married? What what's

50:11

her story?

50:13

I don't have her

50:16

background, and she's

50:18

not like her sister, Jolene,

50:20

who is a very prominent

50:25

social networker -- Right. -- who's

50:27

been involved in charity work

50:30

for

50:31

many decades and has

50:34

been in the fast lane

50:36

and has been involved with Jeffrey

50:38

Epstein wanted to be

50:40

his wife loved him

50:42

very

50:42

much and

50:43

participated in all of his crime. So I

50:46

think she was the

50:46

boss, to be honest with him.

50:49

Yeah. Yeah. Now you revealed

50:51

on this show that you

50:54

employed Rudy Giuliani for

50:56

Tower

50:56

Financial. He was a corporate counselor. He

50:58

paid him one

50:59

million a year. Yes.

51:01

And I did say that. And then at

51:03

the time when you you were

51:05

having all your troubles, he sided

51:07

with Epstein

51:09

and

51:09

Darren Endike. He

51:12

was in the middle

51:16

of a

51:18

group of people, Royce named

51:20

Robert Gold, who grew up

51:22

with Jeff Repp's name in Brooklyn.

51:26

Darren and Diego worked for Robert Gold for

51:28

some

51:28

time, and that's how Darren

51:31

and Diego was

51:33

introduced. Jeffrey

51:34

Epstein and to making all these millions that

51:36

he made as Jeffrey Epstein's

51:39

partner through the

51:41

gold in that goes back to

51:43

Rudy

51:44

Giuliani. And Robert Nardano, who

51:46

was the man that

51:48

stopped the

51:49

prosecution of the

51:52

FBI at

51:52

the time that I plead guilty,

51:54

which is a very sad

51:58

sad comment because

52:00

that prosecution

52:02

should have never been stopped.

52:03

And he let he did the same thing

52:05

Alex costed it. He

52:08

let you

52:10

go. And refused to pursue

52:12

the crimes against him that

52:14

he pursued against

52:15

me. So

52:18

And there's also payments going back to Robert North Dallas

52:21

has been established from

52:23

Dallas Financial's bankruptcy

52:26

trustee. Mhmm.

52:28

Now that

52:29

hasn't been put out there. Under

52:31

what circumstances could there be

52:33

payments going directly to

52:36

a prosecutor from from a case

52:38

that's being

52:38

prosecuted. Is that what you're saying? Yes. I'll make sure.

52:41

That's right. Yeah.

52:43

They're they're

52:43

doing a

52:46

lot. Actual payments going

52:48

to a secured firm,

52:51

doing an investigation

52:54

for the bankruptcy trustee, Alan Cohen, directly

52:57

to the prosecutor, Robert,

53:00

my fellow

53:02

security firm. Yes.

53:04

And

53:04

the payments were shared

53:07

by mister Black, the chief

53:09

of Rudy Giuliani's criminal

53:12

division

53:12

in the US attorney's office.

53:16

Fastening. And

53:16

that and that links where did

53:19

you weigh any directly in

53:21

to the get

53:22

out of jail called Jeffrey Epstein.

53:24

So when you see the time to

53:26

my go through quick Yeah. No. We're running out of

53:28

time. So when you see Lev Parnas,

53:31

and this Ukraine situation. And you

53:33

see these text messages with this

53:35

character falling around, this

53:37

ambassador,

53:37

and and Do you put

53:39

that past who did Giuliani to to do something

53:41

as serious as that? I

53:45

would have to refer to the evidence

53:47

because I have to be sensitive

53:50

not to say something that I can't

53:52

substantiate with evidence. Rudy

53:54

Giuliani today. Gotcha. Now

53:56

you sent me this other document here. It's

53:58

titled what Jeffrey Epstein and Alan Dershowitz

54:00

have to do with Israel nine

54:03

eleven the Saudis and I ran. We've only got about a minute or

54:05

two, so I wanna touch on this the next activity

54:07

we come back. But what do you wanna share

54:10

with us on that?

54:12

Nine eleven. Well,

54:14

there are

54:15

a lot of open

54:18

questions that the public

54:20

has

54:21

about nine eleven and hours

54:24

orchestrated by Saudi people,

54:26

and it's a

54:27

tragedy. And

54:30

We're not saying that money revenue

54:32

is going to link to Jeffrey Epstein

54:34

and his relationships. We're

54:36

not trying to say that. All

54:40

we're saying is that there is

54:42

dirt that has

54:44

not been told to the public, substantial dirt

54:47

And once again, Rudy

54:50

Giuliani would be aware of that

54:52

in involved in a cover

54:54

up. Rudy Giuliani has

54:58

participated to a degree

55:00

in linkage to Jeffrey Epstein's

55:04

Lawyers. Yes. Mhmm.

55:06

Yes.

55:06

Okay. We're just about out of time. What

55:08

do you wanna leave us with, mister Hoffman? We

55:11

got about two

55:12

minutes. We want to

55:14

look at the Virgin

55:16

Islands attorney general to

55:20

expose the mystery

55:22

of Jeffrey Epstein to

55:24

the public completely, completely

55:28

exposing without a holdback

55:30

of anything. The public can

55:32

understand what mister and Jeffrey has been required by the century.

55:36

Steven Hoffman.

55:38

Berg. The book is called Dead Mantell

55:40

Nortel. He's a major contributor to the book. He

55:42

was a former partner and a

55:44

mentor of

55:46

Jeffrey Epstein. President of Tower Financials also ran the New York post

55:48

there. Mister Hoffman, thank you

55:50

so much. Is that interview

55:52

number

55:52

six? We'll be talking again

55:54

this week. Okay? Thank you so

55:55

much. Thank

55:57

you, Ed. Good

55:58

night. Okay.

56:00

Once again, Steven

56:03

Hoffman, great great content

56:05

there. Once again, will

56:07

be playing this by the way, this was

56:10

recorded on January eighteenth

56:13

two thousand twenty. So I'm gonna start

56:15

trying to get them up on the air as quick as possible because so much is breaking

56:18

news. And then he shares with us all the time.

56:20

And it's time the the breaking news with us.

56:22

There was

56:24

criminal content in this trust created money in the

56:27

Virgin Islands. Oh, that's new breaking news.

56:29

A lot of breaking news has

56:31

given us here. Each

56:34

week. I don't I don't know anybody out there who's more

56:37

in tune with

56:39

what's going on today. In

56:41

this case. And and he emails me all day long, so I

56:43

know that he's he's consumed with this

56:46

case, like a dog or a bone

56:48

going after Darren and I could add hundred million

56:50

dollars I could say to my sleep. You know

56:52

what I was saying? Anyway and I'm

56:54

I'm very forthright too. He

56:56

never done a question. Never gets

56:58

upset. So I gotta get my the high score on the credibility

57:00

factor there. My friends can't do

57:02

a lot of people. Over

57:05

the years. And I gotta,

57:08

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57:10

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57:13

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57:16

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