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Biggest Controversies on the Internet | Ozzy, Sharon & Kelly Debate

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Biggest Controversies on the Internet | Ozzy, Sharon & Kelly Debate

Biggest Controversies on the Internet | Ozzy, Sharon & Kelly Debate

Tuesday, 20th February 2024
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Right next one. Cilantro. Was.

0:03

Cilantro Footman. It's

0:06

a kind of green herb if core

0:09

and I love you put it's coriander.

0:12

Due. To the on. Okay, fresh

0:14

herb or soapy taste for boardwalk. A

0:16

to herb. I made my day later

0:18

when I agree on what would a

0:20

sprinkler on? Can everything in this country

0:22

or don't know? I like it. Or.

0:25

Don't know like no, no, It's.

0:27

I get a green flaky bit better Own army.

0:29

One Food you go. words

0:31

I float were or clue

0:33

what we're all throw. Daddy

0:35

doesn't eat much things that are green

0:38

know. Hurt.

0:42

But that's how it goes. On

0:46

either go to a half year blaze

0:48

of real romantic. Cause

0:50

they just go to bed

0:52

during ah. Alright,

0:55

Change the subject. Hello and

0:57

welcome to the Osborne's Podcast!

0:59

Good morning, Good morning. I'm

1:01

Kelly. I'm. As a. Big.

1:05

Momma. You. Fucking wish

1:07

your like the tiniest person and god

1:09

damn well know I'm naming myself after

1:11

the dog we call Heidi Big Momma.

1:15

Why? Do you who have Big Momma? She's like

1:17

because she gave birth to all the hot it

1:19

so she'd Big momma. Okay,

1:22

Anyway, A Ready to hear the

1:24

topic of today's episode? Yes. It

1:27

is Cold. The great debate.

1:29

Oh so we're going to

1:31

be debating all sorts of

1:33

different things. And the first

1:35

section is about food. So

1:37

it's food frenzies. First one

1:39

is double dipping Acceptable Sharing

1:41

Aura Hygiene? Horror. Or will.

1:44

Double Dipping. Like let's say, you have french

1:46

fries and you dip into the catch up

1:48

and you have a by and then you'd

1:50

get that same french fry into the catch

1:52

up. Again, that's considered double dipping. So

1:54

wrong to do. Well.

1:56

It depends. On your door, your weight

1:59

or Odin. A lot of

2:01

get him. A My. Let's

2:03

say you're eating guacamole, which it.

2:06

Is that none? none to listen to? to? that? I

2:08

don't. It is. About political correctness. I think

2:11

it's more about hygiene because you get

2:13

like yours spent on. A on a

2:15

more most devoted. A depends

2:17

how you doing it with them. Or

2:19

see family you are okay sign

2:22

different mood Yes we do. Ours

2:24

And ours is. Owed more.

2:28

I wouldn't care if it was either one of you

2:30

know what? Know it was. Bespoke.

2:33

Result were murmuring over Japan and we have

2:35

that for hims wrote both on mobile. Oh.

2:37

Also. For a job.

2:40

Explain. What? Slap part

2:42

where you cook the food and is falling

2:45

in you put your be sending your new

2:47

blog her yes yes yes they pay and

2:49

you oh use your troubles steaks and then

2:51

the chopstick guys in your mouth and you

2:53

go back into the fire. House. Fuck

2:55

that. I'm I'm no answer

2:58

and I you know else, I'm really not into. His

3:00

the idea of a buffet. Why? Is

3:02

everyone walks past the everyone touch to

3:05

sit and puts it back and me

3:07

breathe and call them inside life know

3:09

do member years ago how big the

3:11

buffets. Used to be when I was

3:13

kind of violence as gusto. Love.

3:16

Films Roads will. Further,

3:18

Spotted Spread. Modern.

3:20

Unbelievable. It was

3:22

unbelievable. I can't do as made

3:25

known for through food. Stored.

3:27

To remote I. Am the i don't sound

3:29

like I say gonna trust Yeah like. I I'm

3:31

I'm, but you're not do I only

3:34

get when you do use it, you

3:36

always are on, saw, are you that

3:38

you go go go right the fuck

3:40

is so? And people pile

3:43

that plates up. Like this or

3:45

love that them Bristol or a close

3:47

with of the road you. On

3:50

the roof. What? Software.

3:53

Web. A bit over the go go

3:55

of I have to the frozen in Berkeley.

3:58

Were. Written: Russell. The roof. Sissoko.

4:02

Say. It's a. Solo.

4:05

Out. As. They.

4:07

Have A Day. I mean, they're Sunday

4:10

at buffets. Not man, he didn't know.

4:12

It's just. right? It's not

4:14

too much or as important. As.

4:17

I do. I wouldn't say double dip

4:19

with people say that are not family.

4:22

I wouldn't do that spot. Is

4:25

it's my baby. I don't care if it's

4:27

my boyfriend. I don't care if it's you

4:29

guys. I don't care if it's Daniel. I

4:31

don't have. Done. In

4:33

January. Best friend is the the certain.

4:36

People. The I just saw my

4:38

whatever I know. What

4:41

you do occur? Yes, a

4:43

bad sit double dipping right?

4:45

What about pineapple on pizza?

4:49

Delicious combination or commentary

4:51

Crime. Of

4:53

the author of the do. I

4:57

wouldn't say. It. Was I really

4:59

liked the com Israel, German youtube. Toast.

5:03

Ring upon a pool. Chose

5:05

to reason for women. But.

5:08

Squishy. Know. That

5:11

download Bruce. Almighty.

5:15

I. Think it's a coronary crime. See

5:18

I got no. All odds are

5:20

a lot of these unusual. Oh

5:23

so as soon as your mom. Movie.

5:26

Grace. Is at a

5:28

nous nous size. A

5:30

new food? Yeah, it's for

5:32

interested. really. sort. Of.

5:36

Ice is a didn't go head

5:38

over heels about. Use

5:41

insistence him. Under. I

5:43

do Now I just didn't know. I

5:46

was legalized and husband have to

5:48

do his pocket and Joey's ah

5:50

fuck it. I. Enter the you want to

5:52

see a hairy fish. Or noticed

5:54

an undisclosed the levels. Of

5:58

get a job but. My dad. I

6:01

think they're discussing. I think this think

6:03

so. Narrow face, smell like

6:05

is hot sauce or smoke.

6:08

Ago said some smart. Tag

6:10

please on it's definitely pussy ass.

6:12

Couldn't do it. Also going to

6:14

say about pineapple. I don't like

6:17

pineapple because it makes the roof

6:19

of my mouth. It's. Yeah

6:21

third time I decided to me. Like. Smith

6:23

Suffolk next and I

6:25

I don't like the

6:27

way. Men talk about

6:29

pineapples and drinking pineapple juice. Men

6:32

work about what you love this

6:34

one Mom because his sex talk

6:36

because all kids go around saying

6:39

like years and drinking the Pineal

6:41

Produce concert. My dig. Because.

6:43

Was to make your of

6:46

semen tastes like plentiful. All

6:48

fourth call. For costs

6:50

more than other dialects, this is

6:52

what people say mom. This.

6:54

Is what people say. Have heard much from

6:57

all. Righty then gone. Catch.

7:01

Up on hotdogs. Acceptable

7:04

condiment or. Yeah.

7:06

Sacrilegious knows what did you

7:08

do when it's person so

7:10

or of. Why? You know if that's the

7:13

case of when Hotdog. Reserve

7:16

or is mostly a movie.

7:18

I thought that that just is

7:21

what you're supposed her or must

7:23

did cause of Ramesses. Whatever. Whatever

7:25

floats your boat. I'm

7:28

I always remember being the kind of

7:30

kid that would literally suck on a

7:32

ketchup bottle because I'm honest with ketchup.

7:35

Gone. You could get me the anything if and

7:37

catch up on it. Most.

7:39

Kids gone. right? Next

7:42

one, cilantro. What? Sartre.

7:45

With that moon. It's

7:48

a kind of green heard it's core

7:50

and I love you put it's coriander.

7:53

Do. with user an. Attack fresh

7:55

have also be taste. To

7:57

me as his That so I like him. What

8:00

What it can hurt? I need

8:02

every on what. Was a sprinkler on

8:04

fucking everything in this country or don't

8:06

know. I like it. Or

8:08

them alone like Lunar for. It's

8:11

a green flaky bit. Rude. I

8:13

have one food. you go with it.

8:15

It's a soda. When

8:18

you go to. Sites

8:21

moon they say don't say they put

8:23

it on on Fox if I'm alone

8:25

Pizza. Pizza as a put it on

8:28

your burritos. Or have a clue,

8:30

what would a choice? Of daddy doesn't

8:32

eat much things that a green know.

8:35

That on, Get them. While.

8:37

We didn't get the media understand them or you don't

8:39

want. Or don't get them very often

8:41

I'll get my to have. Club.

8:44

And seventy a lot of vegetables anyway.

8:46

So I'll get them go around

8:49

the thirtieth. Okay,

8:51

so it's your fault. Minutes

8:53

cook months. It's a bit late.

8:55

could you imagine we'd you'd why Any man

8:57

is fucking house down. His mom stopped cooking.

9:00

Steak. Well. Done

9:02

on medium rare. Well.

9:05

The. Well done Are you have

9:07

to send my say burn in Hell

9:09

that burned bank and I can only

9:11

eat if it's very very thin. I

9:13

can't eat it is it's like fake

9:16

and. Bloody. That sort.

9:18

Of alone seems Steaks, And.

9:24

I don't like the idea of eating anything

9:26

that has blood on it with off. Oh.

9:31

What's. His cell. Phone

9:33

isn't. Yeah. You just thinking

9:35

it instead going on. A.

9:38

Lot at home. He often I see

9:41

people eating a medium rare states it

9:43

makes me literally want to gag. Aware

9:46

of the stones or anyone. Who

9:48

did they say here? Why

9:50

six hours and put it on a plate?

9:52

Know was. Not bones

9:54

of what what reserve burn. blue.

9:58

Guest or show them. Liquid.

10:00

And when. And the bunch? One Nine.

10:03

And. He was. You want

10:05

to say that again? Slow? I went there

10:08

Is it going down without.

10:10

A down at the source, a house

10:12

and there was blood everywhere. We shouldn't

10:14

be done to look for him saying. Oh.

10:17

Who is Fucking awful? Oh

10:19

that's now. The

10:21

i can't get that smells always to fun don't

10:24

want on the blood. When they used

10:26

to have butcher shops in England and

10:28

we would go in Austin or in

10:30

the men with have. A month ago.

10:32

the line? You've never seen a lot.

10:34

What were your senses? For. I

10:36

know that I I. I. Couldn't

10:38

imagine. I

10:41

never wake up though and think

10:43

tonight I'm gonna eat steak for

10:45

dinner. I never. On say working.

10:47

At church meals out and he she wakes

10:49

up in the middle of the night and

10:51

requests. Take. Your. You, you

10:54

would you. And. He.

10:56

Was a potion word. Or.

11:01

See. Some women who. Will because detonate

11:03

hanging upside down and throw Ld

11:05

Rainbow and As and go to

11:07

the Military. Said he goes.

11:10

Is sucking fruit. wouldn't have.

11:14

To stackable. Ruin

11:17

Us government. And

11:19

the people who don't know. How.

11:21

Is he knows about this cause he's

11:23

do when he was a. Very.

11:26

Very young man of how old

11:28

were you eighteen? seventeen? Seventy.

11:31

Seventeen. The only job

11:33

he could get was working in the slaughterhouse

11:35

and he threw up every day. I

11:37

was ill for the first couple

11:39

of weeks old, throwing up a

11:42

brief. Would about.

11:44

Winning. Season the animals trying to say

11:46

know what's gonna happen to them. To

11:50

them. Are. Still don't know

11:52

much. mine a d or your battles

11:54

one of the else half. no no

11:56

no no but. When. you're

11:58

young you don't or life over here

12:00

was now. I don't want to kill a fucking fly.

12:03

I don't want to do anything like that anymore. It's

12:07

what life teaches you. I don't

12:10

eat meat, but I wouldn't

12:13

want to fucking kill an animal. I

12:15

really don't eat that much meat. I don't like none of this

12:17

shit. I tried to go

12:19

vegetarian, but there was this fucking

12:21

bag of chips you vegetarian around there. Yeah.

12:26

Okay, next one. Go on. Milkshake

12:29

and french fries. To dip

12:31

or not to dip? Oh no,

12:33

I couldn't do that. Oh, you're missing

12:35

out, mom. Oh, God, no. If

12:38

you take your french fries and dip it in your

12:40

milkshake. Oh no. No. Oh,

12:43

you two are missing out. It's good. It's

12:46

good. I'm not into... So you'd

12:48

do that, but you wouldn't have pineapple on

12:50

your pizza. Yeah, I know.

12:53

Because I sit there and my tongue is just like crashing

12:56

in the middle of my mouth and I'm like,

12:58

oh, right. It depends on how fucking... where

13:01

you are, what you

13:03

like to do. Some people

13:05

love him. That

13:08

sounds like something people would do when

13:10

they're drunk. Yeah, it doesn't.

13:12

Why do you think I love it so much?

13:15

Okay. I'm moving right along. No,

13:19

I think it is more of something that somebody would

13:21

do if they've smoked a lot of weed and have

13:23

some munchies. Yeah, I would guess.

13:25

It's the same difference. Hi,

13:28

Nan. I'm telling you,

13:30

you're missing out. I almost want to get you a

13:32

milkshake and some french fries so you can try it.

13:35

No, absolutely not. But it's good. You

13:38

two are boring. We are. Go on.

13:40

Okay, Oreos. Do you split them

13:42

apart or do you bite right into them?

13:46

I don't really like them. I

13:49

like them. I like them. I just bite right

13:51

into it. I

13:53

think it's too much effort and you have to

13:55

have the right amount of pressure on each side

13:57

so it doesn't crumble and it becomes like a

14:00

science experiment for me and I get

14:02

too frustrated with it. You

14:04

do that when you've eaten

14:06

too many of them. But

14:09

they also have Oreo thins which are great

14:11

too. I haven't had those. They're good. I

14:14

tell you what is much

14:16

better than Oreo's, Jaffa Cakes. Well

14:19

no, Jammie Dodges mum. No Jaffa

14:21

Cakes. Jammie Dodges all of fucking things.

14:25

What are the fucking things? The other ones

14:27

are square ones. After eight. Cream

14:31

crackers. Oh

14:34

you're talking about Jacob's cream crackers.

14:36

Yeah. The square ones with the cream inside.

14:39

Those are really good. I don't know what

14:41

that is. I think it's Jacob's cream crackers aren't they? No,

14:44

that's just a plain light water biscuit. That's

14:46

what they're gone about. Oh.

14:50

A water biscuit with cream inside and then... It's

14:52

a cream, it's a cream color.

14:54

Yeah. They're square. Yeah.

14:58

Get them in England. They're so good. Cream cracker.

15:01

Something cream. I don't know. English

15:03

cookies or American cookies? What?

15:06

English. English. English. What?

15:09

If you like English cookies or American cookies

15:12

better. Oh English. English

15:14

for sure. I agree. Unless you go

15:16

to Japan and then they just change the

15:18

game for everyone. Well everything. The trees have

15:20

got sugar coming off them in Japan. Everything's

15:23

got sugar. I really don't know

15:25

what to make of it. It's got sugar. It's

15:28

fucking spurs. I've never tasted

15:30

bread with so much sugar in as

15:32

they do in Japan. It's loaded.

15:35

They've got sugar in everything there. And

15:38

their bread's like that thick. I

15:41

love it. It's like Texas. It's fresh

15:43

and made like and tastes like it comes from

15:45

a bakery. And you can take the whole loaf

15:48

and squidge it. It's like the best. You're

15:51

making me hungry. Sorry. Okay.

15:54

Next category is

15:56

ethical quandaries. What?

16:00

So, for example, animal testing.

16:03

Is it necessary for

16:05

scientific progress or is it animal

16:07

cruelty? Well, I don't

16:10

know. Worst

16:13

thing I've ever seen was when they used to get the

16:15

monkeys and put cigarettes in their mouth. What do you mean?

16:19

They used to get monkeys, strap this

16:21

head thing with a cigarette in all

16:23

day, all day, all day, to test

16:25

to see how long it would take

16:27

for it to get cancer. With

16:29

a cigarette in its mouth. I know. They get

16:32

that, they send it

16:34

crazy with cocaine

16:37

and it becomes addicted

16:39

to it. I've

16:42

seen that one, about the monkey in cocaine. I

16:44

just don't understand. There's so many people out there that

16:47

are dumb enough to put themselves up for scientific testing. Why

16:49

don't they do that? I used to know a guy

16:51

who used to do that. He

16:54

said, you know, you just

16:56

get lower money, but sometimes

16:58

they get fucking sick. Of course they do.

17:01

I feel like there's got to be

17:03

other ways of testing things. Yeah.

17:06

Yeah, the people that invent

17:08

it, they should test it on themselves. What

17:10

if it's a cure for cancer? How

17:12

can they test it on some of the

17:14

others who got cancer? If

17:17

they invent it and they haven't got

17:19

cancer. Well, people do put

17:21

themselves up for medical studies all the

17:24

time. Oh, okay. Okay.

17:26

What about the death penalty? Just

17:28

punishment or morally wrong? I

17:30

think if it's hands down without a shadow

17:32

of doubt that they did the crime, they

17:35

should be put to death. What's

17:38

the point? I never got to get out

17:40

of jail. Yeah. Mind you, paedophiles

17:44

and kids did the job. I

17:47

think that if you're a paedophile, you should have

17:49

your genitals removed. And they

17:51

should put them on your forehead. I

17:53

mean, getting glittery in and out of jail was

17:55

so I don't know. He's

18:00

disgusting. Obviously incurable. They

18:03

never get paedophores, they

18:05

don't last long in jail, really.

18:07

They're especially over here. Yeah.

18:10

I mean, well,

18:12

okay, look at this one. People

18:15

that kill their children. I

18:18

don't understand how somebody could get into

18:20

a position where they would ever do something

18:22

like that. That that's a thought from

18:24

them. I

18:27

can't understand why parents, not

18:30

parents, a parent will snap.

18:33

They've got a lot of kids going, young kids.

18:35

But not to kill their child. No,

18:38

no, no. There was

18:40

one that I was watching on YouTube today,

18:42

but this woman

18:44

over here tortured. She had other

18:46

kids, other kids. And she

18:49

fucking starved this kid to death. I kept

18:51

him in a cage, that one. She, what?

18:53

Is it the one where she kept him in a cage

18:55

and starved him and the boyfriend put cigarettes out on the

18:57

baby? No, no, no, no. He's

19:00

a woman. And the judge says, he

19:03

says, you're not happy

19:06

that he's dead. Because

19:08

he's not that he's dead. You're

19:11

not happy because he died. You're

19:13

happy because you've lost your sense

19:16

of enjoyment. I mean, the judge really

19:19

fucking read it out. I

19:22

don't understand why people can do that.

19:25

I can't understand an actor

19:28

or parent going fucking

19:30

kidding and snapping

19:32

and wacking

19:35

it too hard. But there's

19:37

someone to

19:39

sit down and go, I'm

19:42

gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. You

19:45

know, think about what they're gonna

19:47

do. Told you, fuck

19:50

it wrong, you should be killed. I

19:53

guess I just think that the

19:55

death penalty should, depending on the

19:57

crime, depending on the crime, then

19:59

yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

20:02

I think there is a place

20:04

for it. But I would never

20:06

want to play God. Well, you would never

20:08

want to? Want to play God. I

20:10

would never want to be... Could you imagine

20:12

the judge and the jury and you'd have

20:14

to sit there and listen to everything and

20:17

you knowing that the decision you made could

20:20

ultimately lead to somebody's death and what is wrong?

20:22

Okay, okay. If something was to happen to a kid of

20:24

yours... You think beyond a shadow of doubt? If something was

20:26

to happen to a kid of yours, would

20:28

you want the person to do it? If someone did

20:30

something to my kid and

20:32

my kid was made

20:35

unalive, I don't

20:37

give a shit what happened to me, I would

20:40

kill the motherfucker. You

20:42

can't do that. I know you can't. So I

20:44

said, I don't care what would happen to me. No, but

20:46

what I'm saying... You

20:50

went through the legal

20:53

process and got tempted.

20:55

Would you want him dead or would you

20:57

say... I learned it. Well, what if it

20:59

was an accident? Accidents

21:01

happen all the time. If

21:05

it was proved... You have to look at it that way. If it

21:07

was proved... But

21:09

I thought we were talking about murder. If

21:12

it was proved, a shadow

21:14

of that they went and

21:17

kidnapped a kid and fucking sexually

21:19

abused it. That's one thing. That's

21:22

a good question. If

21:24

a guy, the kid,

21:26

ran out on the road and run the

21:28

kid over and it wasn't

21:31

intentional, the

21:33

kid's still gone. It's

21:36

a whole different thing. That's

21:40

the life in prison, that thing. But

21:46

yeah, that would be life in

21:48

prison or a good prison.

21:50

A prison term, but I don't think it

21:52

deserves life. I'm specifically talking about

21:54

murder. Like if

21:56

somebody murdered my kid... That's

22:00

a deep, so many accidents, you know? Running

22:02

your kid out of a by accident. That's

22:05

a prison sentence. But if somebody

22:07

actually plans to

22:10

kidnap your kid and sexually

22:12

abuse him, whatever, then fuck, kill him,

22:15

that's a fucking death sentence. That's okay.

22:18

Yeah. Yeah, excellent. Okay,

22:21

so the next one. This

22:23

one's interesting. Human cloning, scientific

22:26

breakthrough, or an ethical boundary? I personally

22:28

think that it is the most disgusting

22:30

thing that humans are trying to do.

22:34

I do feel- You're playing God.

22:36

Yeah, you are. If they're cloned

22:38

animals, they're

22:40

definitely a cloned people. I

22:43

saw this thing online, and I don't know if it's a

22:45

conspiracy theory or what, but it was this woman, and

22:48

she was giving a speech of what appeared

22:50

to be a press conference, saying that on

22:53

a certain date, the first baby was born

22:55

to human clothing. But I was like, is

22:58

this real? I was like, what is

23:00

this fake? Because she didn't look like a doctor. I'd

23:02

be interested in this. And

23:05

you know the grown

23:07

up person in the fucking test. Of

23:10

course they have. I don't agree with

23:12

it, but- I don't agree with it, but you

23:14

know- You're not gonna stop people doing it. Do you

23:16

know why I think they're trying to do it? Do

23:18

tell. I think they're trying, this is just my conspiracy

23:21

theory. They're trying to do it so

23:23

that you can have a double of yourself in

23:25

case you ever need an organ. Or

23:28

you need- Oh yeah, but you'll

23:30

have a menu. And

23:35

you can take that person and- I'm sorry, right.

23:38

Intelligence, looks like this one or that

23:41

one. And I just

23:43

think that's messing with- What do

23:45

you mean? That could cosmetically make people,

23:48

a girl looks like Barbie. Okay,

23:51

what do you think about, you

23:54

can't have children. Okay,

23:57

so you get somebody's egg, and you-

24:00

You want a child, so you get somebody's egg,

24:03

some bloke sperm and then you find a

24:05

woman to have that baby for you. See,

24:08

this is where I'm a

24:10

little, I get upset because if you're going to do it that way

24:13

you might as well just adopt. And there

24:15

are so many kids in the foster system that I

24:17

agree. If you're going to do it that way it's

24:19

wrong and you should adopt. Yeah. I

24:21

don't know. I feel like it's an experiment and

24:24

I know people are going to come down on me for

24:26

saying it but you're right. I don't. That's

24:28

what you do, that's what I do. Yeah.

24:31

But if it's your egg. It's your

24:33

egg and somebody else's. I

24:36

think it's okay. Yeah, but

24:38

say you don't have eggs

24:41

for whatever medical reason. You don't have

24:43

eggs so you get somebody's egg, somebody's

24:45

sperm and some person to

24:47

actually hatch the egg for you. No,

24:50

no. I think that that is. You

24:53

don't know whether you're going to get a nut or a... I

24:56

think that you take that risk when you have your own

24:58

children. But I

25:00

don't... Again, I don't

25:03

like the idea of creating

25:06

life when there's already life here. Yeah. That

25:09

you can... I agree with you. You can take care

25:11

of it. Definitely. And when

25:13

I think about the

25:16

idea of human cloning, the

25:18

number one thing you need as a

25:20

baby is love. If you

25:23

don't have love, and this is what I'm learning

25:25

with my kids, if you don't

25:27

give them love, they don't learn. They

25:30

don't grow. They don't develop. And

25:32

one of the things that makes

25:34

me so happy is that my

25:36

baby is happy. What

25:39

these test tube children and... What

25:42

if I want to argue with mischievous?

25:46

Whose fault is that? Do you

25:48

ever think about when

25:50

a child is so innocent, they're so young,

25:52

say you get a two year old and

25:54

you say, did you take those sweeties? And

25:58

they go, no, I didn't. How

26:00

did they learn to live so

26:02

early? Would. Be what is

26:04

that is. it is lie. It's fear.

26:07

Because. They know not supposed llama wool

26:09

of my mum. The suffer. Of

26:12

said it would be worth getting. In trouble. Not

26:15

But other than our trouble is. That

26:17

is and probably been in trouble. Know

26:19

that young, The. Is that

26:21

is that. Address:

26:23

No. No. On

26:26

some. And they've

26:28

done it behind their back. I

26:31

mean, it's an innocent thing, but

26:33

isn't it amazing that fits? Kids

26:35

know how to lie. At.

26:38

Such a young age. Is Terrifying.

26:41

The wrong thing. I. Think it's

26:43

terrifying and any for each the

26:45

it's amazing when you see it

26:48

in somebody so young and so

26:50

innocent. And. They don't know

26:52

the repercussions. Of these things

26:54

are Muslims things around vote. This

26:57

things around in In in. Everyday.

27:00

Life. Which is picked up to

27:02

of in. The. Bible says.

27:05

From. The moment of is it is used

27:07

of old Rookie Road. He

27:12

will retire into the world You is is like.

27:14

Wow. Was. It. Be

27:16

in a room for nine months. Now.

27:19

Merman. Wow. Murder.

27:21

Or even, you know, when you've got

27:23

two babies and net playing on one. Take

27:26

something away from me. Outta. And

27:29

they won't give it back. It's

27:31

it's. amazing that this is employees

27:33

you my wrong reasons engineer it's

27:35

it is performing soon. As

27:38

next one. I know how is the

27:40

about this but zoos. Necessary for

27:42

education or unnatural captivity. On

27:45

watch captivity. I think that

27:47

if it's a sanctuary, it

27:49

necessary. Set a different

27:51

one every Silverado zoos. A

27:54

Dead Zone as Zoom. Zoom

27:56

were over isn't just reminding

27:58

me wrong. I think

28:00

they're wrong because you know the party

28:02

person okay But you put a

28:04

fucking I was watching the

28:07

thing about this elephant had been chained

28:09

up for 50 years He

28:11

probably but a mum who was born he was

28:13

chained up And he

28:15

was depressed and he's

28:18

dying was so this fucking guy

28:21

When bought the elephant up this guy Uh,

28:24

and he got it Giving

28:26

freedom and the elephant was

28:28

fucking so happy and it was

28:30

just wonderful It's when

28:33

you go to zoos and you see

28:35

something like an elephant a tiger a

28:37

lion going back and forth Why

28:40

wasn't that elephant went fucking yeah,

28:42

bro, that was fucking sad. I

28:45

just think it's Unfair to take

28:47

an animal and put it into Essentially

28:50

a box. Yeah, and I

28:52

mean, I mean When

28:55

I was a kid And the circus

28:57

come to town. It was fucking unbelievable And

29:00

I went to the park where it went Where

29:03

in the aspen park And

29:06

the lions all went what the fuck

29:08

dude? But then I think that

29:10

i'm a bit of a hypocrite because I do

29:13

take my son to the zoo Yeah,

29:15

we could change the safari park as well I

29:17

don't know where there is a safari park anymore

29:20

I wouldn't know that Yeah, they

29:22

do They do. I just think

29:24

that unless they're Cultivating

29:26

the animals so the sickest thing

29:28

I think It

29:31

was a guy And

29:33

he would go around to play some

29:35

buy old animals like fucking old lions

29:39

And he would have a platform in

29:41

florida and people would go pay Look

29:44

a menu so much to

29:46

align. Oh, no, I don't

29:48

fucking Time I

29:51

got a fucking shoe. I think that's

29:53

disgusting and I really really really And

29:56

I don't like saying this word, but hate people

30:00

Who go and. Hunt

30:02

big game and boy or would

30:04

have it is. also learned that

30:06

shot or don't have anything anymore

30:08

or really don't. I don't

30:10

like killing beautiful animals any

30:12

animal and on a regular

30:14

phone. some on drugs. Should

30:16

all drugs be decriminalize? Know.

30:21

Let it sit. All drugs be

30:23

decriminalized. Yet. Because. It

30:25

a try to avoid. Using

30:28

the cost. Of

30:30

treatment, the cost of of policing

30:32

and and roll over the course

30:35

of everything out what exists others

30:37

do you what to do in

30:39

in in Portugal scenario he i've

30:41

seen this and as you say

30:43

is you either the there you

30:45

are you don't follow yeah. It

30:50

is. It's there. Are so

30:52

you're You think it's fine to have as

30:55

much sense and on going on in? London

30:57

but Isn't pleads with people

30:59

telling people. And I'm not

31:01

saying I'm gonna use it or you. Aren't

31:04

as you eat it. If it

31:06

is trying to concern in one

31:09

area, I don't. Have. Control human beings

31:11

enough not become addicted to it So.

31:13

Our own alcohol was illegal. so

31:15

backhoes lived bus or is the

31:17

most addictive thing like everybody. my

31:19

book. Is. It

31:21

and themselves invite plugs. Or

31:24

are you on inside? It's

31:27

disgusting. And people. Go. On

31:29

his face at. Pains.

31:31

To get off tobacco. Not.

31:33

Or you know they do says

31:35

drug dens and significant sounds similar

31:38

sixty drug. I ever put our

31:40

off or of people who are. Addicted

31:43

to heroin or a

31:45

heavy drugs. Or give it

31:47

a got the of say it but I can stop

31:49

smoking. Only time I ever

31:52

liked a cigarette is if I was a

31:54

bit his. The. Outside of that,

31:56

I think that tastes. To.

31:58

Smell sorry. I look so

32:00

stupid, I don't look sexy, I don't look cool. I

32:06

look like a child trying to be

32:08

cool. It doesn't work. But what I'm

32:11

saying, tobacco is very,

32:14

very addictive. I

32:16

wonder if it's actually tobacco or the chemicals they put inside

32:18

a cigarette. No, tobacco is addictive. The whole nine

32:20

yards, it's all disgusting. When

32:22

you see a woman sat there and she's got smoke

32:24

coming out of her nose. Yeah,

32:27

but that's legal. Okay,

32:31

are you ready? Go on. A.I.

32:35

Should we fear it or will it advance stuff?

32:38

Well, I don't fear it, but it's

32:40

already here. Yeah, I'm scared of it. It's

32:42

going to run the world one day and

32:44

if it learns to have feelings

32:47

and it

32:49

learns the feeling of hate, it's... When

32:51

it starts to be able to learn to think for itself,

32:53

that's when you've got to worry. It'll

32:56

give it emotions next. That's what I'm saying.

32:58

It will. It'll give it emotions because people

33:00

won't stop. People won't stop. It'll

33:04

go to the next stage, the next stage and

33:06

then they'll take over. But they said that about...

33:08

One of

33:10

the robots at Tesla

33:14

had a wobbler and attacked

33:16

one of the scientists. When

33:20

he starts to think that it's

33:22

going to be a scheme and

33:25

go, I don't like

33:27

this fucking guy. I'm

33:31

like, it's all science fiction. But

33:34

somebody else said to me, what's science

33:36

fiction today? Science fiction. Okay,

33:39

what about marriage? Still

33:41

necessary or outdated? Or down to

33:43

the individual? I'm

33:45

an old time. We're

33:48

married. I'm glad I married

33:50

you, Mum. Me too. I'm

33:52

glad you did too. But

33:56

in the Magnus Society... I

34:00

hate being because if

34:04

you're married to someone, you're

34:07

there because you have to be

34:09

there to a certain degree. But

34:13

if you're not married to someone,

34:15

you're there because you want to be. Yeah.

34:18

It's probably stupid. I don't

34:20

know. I don't think that's stupid. I

34:23

think that... If you're going

34:25

to have children, you need... they need...

34:27

kids need to be brought up in

34:29

a structured environment and everything is... I

34:31

understand what I'm saying. I mean, if

34:34

we weren't married... That doesn't mean you have to

34:36

get married. If we weren't married, we would be

34:38

still together. Just because

34:41

you've got a piece of paper, it's not... It's

34:44

a very interesting thing.

34:46

Because marriage used to be

34:48

a necessity because women had no other way of

34:50

leaving their home unless they got married. And

34:53

it was a sense of ownership. And

34:55

I don't think those days... I

34:58

mean, women are only... It's not

35:00

necessary. I do

35:02

think that if a woman does the same work

35:04

as a man, she should get the same pay.

35:07

I agree. Here, fuck in here. But

35:11

you have no idea how

35:13

much less I get paid for doing

35:15

the same job as some of my

35:17

male counterparts. I know. And

35:20

I'm just like, what the fuck? I

35:22

have to pay for more shit just to exist

35:24

because I'm a woman. Don't talk to

35:26

me about that. What about when I

35:28

was stuck with two guys who I really

35:30

like, I really respected them, on the same

35:32

show. They both had private

35:34

planes and I had a fucking American

35:36

airline ticket. I never remember that. And

35:39

everywhere they would go, they had a private

35:41

plane. And I was like, even to say,

35:44

can my assistant sit next to me so

35:46

I don't have to get stuck next to

35:48

somebody I don't know? No, you pay for

35:50

it. I

35:53

remember when you complained about her death. I

35:56

Remember when you complained about a

35:59

hotel and... Somebody said that you

36:01

should be kissing the ring of your boss

36:03

because you're so lucky to have your job.

36:05

Yeah, That are my. Everybody will only

36:07

have been nice. You know what? are

36:10

your mouth? Put. A Loads

36:12

go on the jet. Jet. Honor.

36:16

One yeah. And

36:18

it was one is unwise on. At

36:22

a fellow be a suggestion so he

36:24

had to have his own fly planes

36:26

and me under one. I do agree

36:28

with a huge star. Didn't.

36:30

Want to? You. Know makes

36:32

with the general public as it

36:34

would be you know inconvenience and

36:37

he had his own plane by.

36:39

it's like know how it on

36:41

and I'm devoted to boast. Saber.

36:44

On the show. I. Get

36:46

It's like when I. Asked for

36:48

as you know what they could walk

36:50

to. Don't like it you can leave

36:52

the anything the. Next one.

36:54

Oh right. That hey, we're onto a

36:56

new topic now. go on, which is

36:59

Education debates? Standardized

37:01

testing effective at assessment or is

37:03

a hindrance to learning. I think

37:05

it is the biggest fucking joke

37:07

with it. I just catering to

37:10

one kind of person. There are

37:12

some people like myself who tests

37:14

really really bad, but I have

37:16

a higher I chew then the

37:18

testing would allow me to. To

37:21

show on. Okay or

37:23

I do this. Go back

37:26

a hundred years to be Eleven

37:28

plus right? to? Disperse. And

37:31

eleven you get tested teens. You

37:33

had to have super bright kids.

37:35

The guys in the middle the

37:38

always. Get lost and then you

37:40

get the ones that aren't. That

37:43

bright for whatever reason

37:45

or or or or

37:47

skills to survive. Yes

37:49

sir. Budget murder More

37:51

reason, a bit more

37:54

academic burrito. That's because you

37:56

would dyslexic and there was no dyslexia

37:58

in those days. But. But... There's

38:01

a bullet you would put you in

38:03

a corner. There's a cone on

38:05

your head. There's a deer on it.

38:07

Dunts, yeah. But

38:09

the thing is, tests are

38:11

for not for the masses. And

38:14

all these tests are for the masses and we're all

38:16

in the vehicle and we all learn in a

38:18

different way. And how can a test that you take

38:20

when you're 13 years old dictate the

38:22

rest of your life? It

38:26

doesn't dictate the rest... No it doesn't.

38:28

It doesn't dictate the rest of your

38:30

life. What it dictates is the next

38:32

seven years of learning. I

38:35

don't agree. I think it dictates the rest of your life.

38:37

It's the foundation of the rest of your life. Because

38:40

it defines what school you go to and that school

38:42

defines what college you go to and that college defines

38:44

what degree you get and that degree defines what job

38:46

you get and that job is the rest of your

38:48

life. Not necessarily but

38:51

for the majority, yes. And

38:53

I think standardized testing lumps

38:55

just a few people into

38:57

the right position. When I left

38:59

school, I had a lead survey that says

39:02

John Muggle, I was born, has

39:05

been a pupil of this school

39:08

just in Saturday night and

39:10

he's leaving in Saturday night. That was it. I

39:13

had to go on the fucking wheel. And

39:16

that was showing that my

39:18

employer there. Yeah. But

39:21

then look at what happened to you. Yeah,

39:23

but I'm just from saying. He

39:26

has the need to survive. Dad can look after

39:28

himself when it comes to academics. I

39:30

mean, I go lots of people. There's a lot

39:32

of kids where I'm still

39:35

leaving in the same fucking house. Okay,

39:38

what about sex education? Should

39:41

it be in schools or should it be taught by your

39:43

parents? Both. I

39:46

think both but I do think that they

39:48

teach it too young here. How old are

39:51

they here when they teach it? Hey, stop

39:53

talking about sex education at seven, six. I

39:56

mean, it's way too young. They

40:00

wouldn't be. In the closet rocket

40:02

usually. Like any

40:04

good, I always thought I'd

40:06

encourage kids to wash themselves.

40:09

And. It's. Teaching

40:12

what was the right or

40:14

wrong, I

40:16

don't want some stranger telling my

40:18

kids about sex. For.

40:21

More you have see thought I had

40:23

s and I don't know the way

40:25

they can you explain it. I don't

40:28

want some stranger. Miss the

40:30

weather and name is calling my

40:32

kids about intimate things in life.

40:34

I I would want to

40:36

do that but there are

40:38

kids whose parents don't teach

40:40

them says he some any

40:42

anything but it over to

40:44

be at know iron age

40:46

and everybody's an individual. Everybody

40:48

matures differently so I don't

40:50

like. Never mattered of Saturn's rings

40:53

would. Never when you when you

40:55

learn your were in the playground. Is

40:57

a dirty soon. Yeah. I'm.

41:01

Not. From. The

41:04

bad things. Thera case studies

41:06

have shown that the younger

41:08

that you teach sex education

41:10

the last night teen pregnancy

41:13

the less as he. Does a

41:15

good islands and you have some. Some

41:17

people just get pregnant. know. Oh

41:20

I. Don't believe all those studies.

41:23

It's like when M T V

41:25

did that teen pregnancy show. and

41:27

then they said since we've been

41:29

doing the show, teen pregnancies have

41:31

gone down. Oh shit. Everybody wanted

41:33

to get pregnant to be on

41:35

T V. so I don't believe

41:38

those studies. You don't know, I

41:40

don't because it all such an

41:42

individual. Saying he ahead and forty

41:44

so for infringes on zero You know

41:46

what I said no his dog is

41:49

a zero sum of pervy. That's

41:51

right, It a probably would suit the school better

41:53

if they had a day where your parents came

41:55

to school with you and they had. a

41:58

doctor explaining the parts of

42:00

the body and then the parents explain to

42:02

the child what sex is. But even the

42:05

dentist wouldn't look like, look

42:07

at that fucking guy with the

42:10

athlete's gills. And he

42:12

was the doctor. Oh,

42:15

the physiotherapist. The physical therapist in...

42:18

Yeah, no, listen, there's pubs

42:20

everywhere. There's vicars that are

42:22

pubs, pre- They're the ones saying.

42:24

...teachers, they're everywhere. I think the

42:26

parents should wake up. It's

42:29

your responsibility as a parent to teach your child

42:31

things like this. As uncomfortable as it makes you

42:33

feel, you have to do it. Yeah. And the

42:35

thing is, it's like the

42:37

way that they are talking

42:40

about sex is too clinical. Yeah.

42:43

It's very, very clinical. It's not

42:46

emotional. It's clinical. And I don't

42:48

like that. And what about dress

42:52

codes? Dress codes. Dress

42:54

codes. Is it upholding professionalism or

42:57

is it suppressing individuality? Oh,

42:59

bollocks with the individuality. Bollocks.

43:02

In school, I think it

43:04

isn't necessary. I think it

43:06

cuts down so much shit when

43:08

it comes to kids having to

43:11

size each other up and who has

43:13

what and who doesn't. Who's got the

43:15

right shoes on? Who's got the right

43:17

look? Mum, I didn't understand any

43:19

of that until we moved to America. I know.

43:21

No. I don't. I never, and I

43:23

remember the thing at the time was having

43:25

a kid. You're a different person. You're not

43:27

a run of the milk person. You're

43:30

born into a child. No, no,

43:32

it's not that. I'm talking about when

43:34

you were a kid, when

43:36

you were a kid, you

43:39

had a uniform at school. So your

43:41

parents couldn't afford it. But everybody

43:44

should be dressed the same. So they're

43:46

not judged. My brother was in school in the uniform. I

43:48

said, fuck that. I'm not wearing a uniform.

43:52

I'm a cat. You

43:54

want to drink pipes and fucking

43:56

play with one of the guys. But

44:00

you should have the

44:04

basic, you don't have to wear

44:06

a hat, but you should wear

44:08

a certain colour, a

44:10

certain look. No, I thought... It

44:14

takes away all the jealousies and people

44:16

who don't have the wherefore to look

44:18

the same as their classmate. No, no. It's

44:21

better. I think it's better. Even if

44:23

you have a uniform, somebody

44:25

will start wearing their

44:28

cap like us. Don't you remember,

44:30

Mum, when I first went to Hawthorne

44:34

in Beverly Hills when we moved here and

44:37

I was like 12 years old and

44:40

I'd never been to a school where you could wear what

44:42

you wanted to wear. That was a new

44:44

thing for me. And when I got

44:46

there, I just had a regular Jan Sport backpack. It

44:48

was the 90s. I had

44:50

that and I had my

44:52

colourful Hello Kitty pens and that was

44:54

it. I didn't have the

44:57

Kate Spade bag that everybody had. And I got

44:59

made fun of on my first day of school

45:01

and I didn't understand any of

45:03

it. They were all talking about what car they were

45:05

going to get for their first car and how much

45:07

money their dad made. And if they were a lawyer

45:09

or a doctor or all of these things and there

45:11

was so much pressure in areas and it

45:14

opened my mind into areas that I had

45:16

never even... I'd never thought

45:18

about stuff like that. I know.

45:21

I think in our

45:23

school, if you wanted to wear

45:25

a uniform, it was right, but it wasn't mandatory.

45:28

I think in the

45:30

workplace, dress

45:32

appropriately, don't have your boobs

45:34

out. Oh, yeah. I

45:36

think that there's got to be certain

45:39

rules in that area because it's professionalism.

45:42

But I do think that if you

45:44

have colourful hair, you can have

45:47

whatever hair colour you want and you can... OK,

45:49

look at this. I don't

45:51

know whether it's applicable

45:53

now, but I can remember

45:56

that the BA, stewardesses and

45:58

the ground staff, weren't... allowed

46:00

to wear crosses because it

46:02

was a religious symbol? No,

46:05

no, no, because there's so many.

46:09

They said it's the English school. You

46:12

can't, you've got to see your face

46:14

all the time. And the

46:16

Muslims say, that's our religion. And

46:19

they say, you can't do it. That's

46:21

wrong. And then they go, well,

46:23

if we can't do that, you can't

46:26

have Bibles or have

46:28

cross-faces. I think that's right.

46:30

I think it's unfair to mess with somebody's

46:32

religious beliefs. Yeah. If you have

46:34

to dress a certain way for your religion, or

46:36

you want to let the world know what your

46:39

faith is, fine. But

46:41

with a cross, it can be a fashion

46:43

statement. Yeah, no, it can be. It's

46:45

not. It doesn't necessarily mean

46:47

that's your religion. Yeah, but

46:49

it's so kind of vile. Yeah.

46:53

It can be a fashion statement. But you should

46:55

be allowed to wear it. Yeah. It

46:57

doesn't matter what your religion is. If

46:59

you want to wear your religion, then

47:01

wear it. That's it. Okay.

47:03

What about college? Is

47:06

it still helpful or is it a potential waste

47:08

of time? You're the wrong fucking guy. None

47:10

of us have been to college. So I,

47:13

but I will tell you this. I

47:15

think it can

47:17

be a waste of time at this

47:19

point because you spend your life trying to pay

47:21

it back. But I

47:23

am making my son go. I

47:26

want him to go to- By the time your son

47:28

gets the internet, I mean- Can

47:32

I just finish? Well, I never said

47:34

a word. It's me. I

47:38

think that I want him to stay a

47:40

kid and not have adult responsibilities for as

47:42

long as I can possibly. I think

47:45

that's a gift I can give him. Is

47:47

he letting him grow up too fast? If

47:49

he wants to go. Because let me

47:52

tell you something now. You

47:54

look at the top universities around the

47:56

world today. They brainwash you. They totally

47:58

brainwash you. rain

48:00

wash you and that's not

48:02

good. The kids look at it

48:04

as a rite of passage. They

48:06

go to college because of the

48:08

socializing. They love to go the

48:11

partying, the socializing, the connections that

48:13

they all make. It's looked at

48:15

as something totally different than what

48:17

it was meant to be years

48:19

ago. You've heard about all

48:22

of the, I want to

48:24

say this right, the political parties that

48:26

they put on kids. And that they

48:28

pay the universities. There was one

48:33

specific country that

48:35

paid a very,

48:38

very prestigious college in university

48:40

in this country. Billions. Some

48:42

of them had 400 million.

48:45

Oh, billions. Billions of dollars to

48:47

the school to teach them, was

48:49

it about Sharia law? Arabic studies.

48:51

I think that's what it came

48:53

under. But it actually is like,

48:55

I don't think that universities

48:57

and colleges should be allowed to accept

49:00

money to change a curriculum. I don't

49:02

think they should be able to accept

49:04

money from another country because if you've

49:07

got five billion to give

49:09

universities in America, you give

49:11

it to your people for

49:14

educating your people.

49:17

You keep it where the money is.

49:19

So if you want to give it

49:21

all to your, all, every

49:23

university in Arab Emirates or wherever

49:26

you come from, I don't care,

49:28

but you shouldn't be allowed. Like

49:31

we shouldn't give money to China.

49:33

China shouldn't give money to us

49:35

to educate our people and

49:38

we shouldn't give them. And it's

49:40

the same as I don't believe

49:42

that countries like China could come

49:45

to England and own the water

49:47

system or the electricity system. Because

49:51

isn't it like China owns all of England's

49:54

water system? A lot of it. Yeah. That's

49:56

insane. Yeah. And like, okay,

49:58

I'll give you a. example, there's

50:01

a pub in Birmingham that

50:06

was famous, very,

50:08

very famous pub, was an

50:10

old Victorian pub, all original,

50:13

insides, everything. And so

50:15

many bands used to play there.

50:17

Zetling used to play there, Moody

50:19

Blues, so many great bands in

50:22

Birmingham. And it

50:24

was bought, hold

50:26

on one minute, it was bought by

50:29

a Chinese company. The

50:31

whole block was bought by a

50:34

Chinese company. And these people

50:36

were trying to say whatever you turn

50:38

into, leave the pub and

50:40

do whatever you want to do with the rest

50:42

of the block, but please keep the pub. So

50:47

they didn't, and they're going to knock

50:49

it all down and they're building whatever

50:51

they're going to build there. No,

50:56

no, it's not that. And so it takes

51:00

the culture away. People don't

51:02

understand that come from other countries.

51:04

That's not the one that bonds

51:07

arms. No. They'd ask

51:09

me, obviously ask me for help. No,

51:12

I'll think of the name. But anyway,

51:14

I don't, I just don't think that

51:17

it should be allowed that somebody could

51:19

come in and own your infrastructure. I

51:22

think that's very strange. Can you

51:24

imagine if we went to Russia

51:27

and said we're buying all your oil? No,

51:29

it doesn't make sense. It doesn't

51:31

make any sense. Buying rich oil.

51:35

Yeah, you just you shouldn't be allowed

51:37

to do it. It's very dangerous. Keep

51:39

your money. Right. Are

51:41

you on? Are you ready for the next

51:43

debating category? Go on. It's parenting

51:45

predicaments. And this first one, just reading it

51:47

makes me angry because of what you guys

51:50

know I went through. But

51:53

naming children, traditional

51:55

or unique? I'm

52:00

a bit, you know, you

52:02

name John Osborne, you name your

52:04

kid John Osborne. I'm

52:06

not for that. I, okay,

52:09

this is personal and I didn't

52:11

expect to ever talk about this, but

52:13

I'm going to. It's

52:16

the biggest fight me and

52:18

my baby's father have ever, ever,

52:20

ever had and probably ever, ever

52:22

will. Will, yeah. With over naming

52:25

our son. I wanted

52:27

our son to have both of our last

52:29

names and he wouldn't

52:31

let me. And we

52:34

had a huge fight. I

52:36

feel that I was

52:39

forced into doing something I didn't want to do. And

52:42

I can never, ever forgive him

52:45

for that, but we can

52:47

move on. So right now

52:49

my son doesn't have a double barreled

52:51

last name, but after

52:54

lots of eye

52:57

opening conversations and some couples therapy, he

52:59

has seen the light and he, we

53:01

are going to legally change our son's

53:03

name to have both of our last

53:05

names. What is she wearing? What

53:08

is she wearing? Yes. In

53:10

his, his fiber. I

53:13

know we both, we both made

53:15

our child so they should have both

53:17

of our last names. Yeah. Not

53:20

one is more important than the other, but you

53:23

have to remember, Sid comes from a

53:25

really traditional English family. My

53:27

father's name is John, Mike Thomas.

53:30

His father was John. It's

53:33

a very dated thing. It's

53:35

a very, very, oh don't even take

53:37

mentality. Don't even get me started, mum,

53:39

because it goes, it

53:41

goes Sid's dad, then

53:44

Sid and now our son. But

53:48

Sid told me that his grandfather had

53:50

the same name, but he didn't. His

53:52

grandfather's name was Fred. Fred.

53:56

So why is my son the fourth? My

53:59

son should be the third. Oh,

54:01

but the first, the second, the third,

54:03

the fourth, what a load of bollocks

54:05

because your child is an individual. It's

54:07

not the third of anything. It drives

54:09

me crazy and it's the only,

54:12

like we don't fight, but that is

54:15

the only thing that we have

54:18

had like an all out like

54:21

fight over. We're also individual

54:23

and the thing is you look at a

54:26

child, you, what

54:28

is that child? What name

54:30

suits that child? I don't like

54:32

to name a child for its born. But

54:35

I love Sid's name. Don't get me wrong. I

54:37

love my baby's name now. He is a

54:39

Sydney. You know, Sydney

54:41

is a great name. He is

54:43

a Sydney. I don't mind the name that it's that

54:46

he has his name Sid. I don't mind that they

54:48

have the same middle name. I just

54:50

mind. I

54:52

think it's kind of

54:54

crazy that the person

54:59

who grew that child inside them didn't

55:02

have a same, you know. I

55:04

had literally no say and

55:07

the other thing that got me is

55:09

that I feel that

55:13

it was more about pleasing his family than

55:15

it was about pleasing me. I tell you what, I tell you what, I

55:17

tell you what, I tell you what, I'm his partner. I

55:19

tell you what, it's old fashioned because now women

55:23

have more say in life. It

55:27

was 150 years ago. They

55:30

never meant to have sex,

55:32

have babies, train a house. And

55:35

when the man was the king of

55:37

the house, a girl

55:39

couldn't have a pin. But?

55:41

They didn't have a say but

55:43

nowadays, you know, it's

55:45

so... Your father

55:47

wouldn't let me call you Kelly Lee.

55:50

I know. Oh god, this is another

55:52

thing. I'm on dad's side about this. Because

55:54

I think it's a cousin fucker named mum. Or you know

55:56

what I mean? Like Kelly Lee. No,

56:00

or it sounds like... Wait, did Lee... And

56:03

Dad had my back, Dad had my back,

56:05

because on my birth certificate it says Kelly

56:07

Osbourne. And on my past board it says,

56:09

my name is Kelly Lee Osbourne. Yeah,

56:12

and I found my birth certificate. Where did Lee

56:14

come from? Kelly LeBrock. Kelly

56:17

LeBrock. Do you remember having weird science?

56:19

She was just the most gorgeous looking

56:21

woman and I was pregnant with Kelly

56:23

and I waited, yes. And then I

56:25

went Kelly, Kelly Lee. Cos

56:28

it reminds me of a bell. Kelly

56:30

Lee, Kelly Lee. Ozzy

56:32

named Jack after his dad. I

56:35

know. Jack is a Jack

56:37

though. Jack is a Jack. Jack

56:39

is definitely a Jack. Why is that? I

56:43

call my father's birth name John.

56:46

Why do they call people... Is

56:49

the name John Jack? I've no fucking idea.

56:51

I don't get any of it about names.

56:53

I don't fucking know. Next one.

56:55

OK. Technology for kids.

56:58

Beneficial for learning or is

57:00

it excessive screen time? It

57:02

can be both. It can be both. I think so too.

57:05

But I will say I've watched all the kids

57:07

in our family, including mine

57:09

sometimes, go downhill because

57:11

of screen time. But you

57:13

know what the thing is, when you

57:15

come now, I

57:19

was in the kitchen just a little more,

57:23

I was just so... It's

57:25

really quiet in these house. He's

57:27

got that laptop now. He's

57:29

got his little iPad, but I only

57:31

play educational. He's only allowed to watch

57:33

educational... People do that have kids

57:36

in his life. And he loves

57:38

Miss Rachel and... But

57:40

as he gets older, he's going to learn to

57:42

play war games and fucking do that.

57:45

I know this and I know that

57:47

ultimately you can't stop them. And even if you don't do

57:50

it at your house, they'll go to their friend's house and

57:52

do it there. I will

57:54

have limited time that they're

57:56

allowed. But you say it. Yep, you have to.

58:00

But from experience,

58:04

if you tell a kid he can't, it'll

58:07

defy them and find a way. Well,

58:09

what about Miss Pearl who was on her iPad for 15 hours

58:12

in one day? It's insanity.

58:14

It's insanity. What's that, Pearl?

58:17

It's the devil's highway. That's what

58:19

I say. I should be a preacher. The

58:21

devil is in that fucking thing.

58:24

I hate it. I absolutely

58:26

hate it. Yes, great for

58:29

educational tools. Great, brilliant,

58:31

but... It's like the

58:33

police nation. You're

58:38

terrible with your iPad, Dad. Because

58:41

you never stop. I

58:43

like that, because

58:45

it's stuffed me thinking, I

58:49

never think anything fucking nice. I

58:52

understand that. I understand that. As

58:55

far as I'm concerned, as I've seen with what's

58:57

going on now, my

58:59

child, unless they need it for

59:01

professional work, because

59:03

I have this whole plan for my son where I'm

59:05

going to build this company that he will then take

59:08

over and he can do what he wants with. It

59:11

will be for him. So if he

59:13

needs that for work, he can have that. But

59:15

I'm not letting my son until he's 18 be

59:17

on social media. I think that it

59:19

is the devil. I think that it hurts people. But

59:23

if you don't do it, as you just

59:25

said, he'll find a way again. He

59:27

will, but at least I can control some of it.

59:29

You can. I might not be

59:32

able to control everything, but I can control

59:34

some of it. You can. When he's in

59:36

your house. Yeah. When

59:38

he's living in my house and he's... Yeah.

59:41

He'll be mad at me for it. I know it. But

59:44

I am saving him from having

59:46

to read the putrid things that

59:48

people write, because they

59:50

can't fucking... I'm sorry. I think that

59:52

kids that have their own social media

59:54

and all day long they're

59:57

taking pictures of themselves and singing

59:59

and dancing. and showing off, it's

1:00:02

absolutely heinous. And

1:00:05

I think that parents that let them do it

1:00:09

need help. It's too

1:00:12

much. And it sexualizes

1:00:14

children too young. It's like

1:00:17

they're so aware

1:00:20

of their bodies and how their bodies move.

1:00:22

And it's the way they look, the way

1:00:24

they dress, the way I can remember I

1:00:26

was listening to this woman who's probably one

1:00:28

of the most famous women in the world.

1:00:31

And she was being interviewed and she was

1:00:33

saying how proud she was

1:00:35

of her daughter. And I think at the time

1:00:37

she must have been about eight, about

1:00:39

her fashion sense and how

1:00:42

proud she is of her because of her

1:00:44

fashion sense. And I'm like, are

1:00:46

you fucking nuts? Her fashion

1:00:48

sense at eight? Who cares

1:00:50

about a child's fashion sense

1:00:52

at eight and that child's

1:00:54

thinking about the way they

1:00:57

look at eight.

1:00:59

To me, it's like

1:01:02

shallow. That's

1:01:07

too young. That's insane. Way too young.

1:01:09

Your face doesn't finish bloody setting.

1:01:11

It's still bleeding soft. Okay. What about this

1:01:13

one? This one I have such

1:01:16

a strong opinion on. The

1:01:18

tooth fairy. Is it

1:01:20

encouraging imagination or setting unrealistic

1:01:22

expectations? Oh, stop it. It's

1:01:24

fantasy. I think it's so

1:01:27

important to have these things

1:01:29

as children. I don't, you

1:01:32

know, innocence, innocence. It's,

1:01:34

you know, excitement. It's

1:01:36

traditional. It's a game play.

1:01:38

And I, and people say this about Santa

1:01:40

Claus too. I'm not teaching my son or

1:01:43

my daughter about Santa Claus. I'm like, you

1:01:45

fucking rub your body with crystals and put

1:01:47

oils all over yourself, thinking that that's going

1:01:49

to fucking heal you from some shit or

1:01:51

protect you from evilness, but you

1:01:54

won't let your child believe in fucking Santa

1:01:56

Claus. What the fuck is wrong with you?

1:01:58

You cannot judge. That's the

1:02:00

tooth fairy. It's everything that is

1:02:03

fantasy and beautiful and sweet.

1:02:06

It's unbelievable. It's fantasy. I

1:02:11

think it's important. It grows imagination. Of course it

1:02:13

does. It's

1:02:15

harmless, sweet, nice

1:02:18

things. It's nice. It's

1:02:20

not blowing up a

1:02:23

fucking house. It's

1:02:25

just lovely. When

1:02:29

Jack's wife used

1:02:31

to go into that playing video game,

1:02:34

he'd spit the fucking thing down there. I

1:02:36

know. What's that got to do with the tooth

1:02:38

fairy? I'm saying

1:02:40

playing the game,

1:02:42

they're like, oh fuck, I don't want to

1:02:45

do that. Okay.

1:02:53

Right, next topic, punishment styles.

1:02:56

Where's the line in being too soft

1:02:58

versus too hard? I'm still learning this.

1:03:01

I mean, I would never hit my kid. No. I

1:03:04

would... I'd never. I couldn't live

1:03:06

with myself. No. But

1:03:09

I do think that I, as

1:03:11

a parent, am way more strict about

1:03:13

certain things than I see my friends

1:03:17

being strict. But I'm

1:03:19

not changing that because I've seen and

1:03:21

experienced the fallout when you're not. Well,

1:03:24

the thing is with things here, I think

1:03:27

in this country, in America,

1:03:30

it's about when

1:03:32

your child is very little, you teach

1:03:34

them morals, you teach them manners. That's

1:03:38

the basic things that you

1:03:40

teach your child at this

1:03:42

age, manners and morals. And

1:03:45

it takes you through your whole life,

1:03:47

those things. And it's

1:03:49

very, very important. So

1:03:52

unless a child says, please, may

1:03:54

I thank you? Hello, how are

1:03:56

you? And those...

1:04:00

Sure thing and really carry you

1:04:02

through your life. And it's It's

1:04:04

A Sakes for every child and

1:04:06

it's very very important. So if

1:04:09

a child if you say I'm.

1:04:12

Pleased. Mommy may have some oh

1:04:14

please I would like is so

1:04:16

please I don't wanna do this

1:04:18

and you guys were very very

1:04:20

serious about manners with us we

1:04:23

were kids. They're younger.

1:04:25

He is about it and most people

1:04:27

don't know this. But until we moved

1:04:29

to America we were not allowed to

1:04:31

swear. Words. You know, a lotta

1:04:33

swear. And. Then when he

1:04:35

moved to America you elect socket

1:04:37

do what you want. Know it wasn't

1:04:40

that we've always sworn sites. Where

1:04:42

adults. When you

1:04:45

were little know that's not for you To say

1:04:47

that's not for you. To do what I

1:04:49

do. So.

1:04:51

He ate with very different

1:04:53

and because you heard swearing

1:04:55

it wasn't and be no

1:04:57

t it was just like

1:04:59

no biggie, so you won't

1:05:02

gonna. Into. A room and of. Shit.

1:05:06

Like a lot of kids do because

1:05:08

they know it's nor seats and you

1:05:10

know they get a response from their

1:05:12

parents. And so it with

1:05:14

it with nothing. It was

1:05:16

no biggie in the family scale of we

1:05:18

knew that we were not. I thought it

1:05:20

was more because he didn't want us to

1:05:22

go to school. And. Have

1:05:25

them pick on asked the something else I.

1:05:27

Know because of how strict they

1:05:29

were in school? There and

1:05:32

how much they judge us. For.

1:05:36

Your news thing simply wrong. Okay,

1:05:39

What about drugs? Teach.

1:05:42

Kids yourself or let them learn on their

1:05:44

own top. You can't let them learn on

1:05:46

their own. That's that's a hippie bill. I

1:05:49

think you have to teach your kids and latter I do You

1:05:51

have to do. That. But the

1:05:53

is all things out there. No

1:05:55

owes was on long road. As.

1:05:58

Looking. No.

1:06:00

More Hey. So hot in

1:06:03

tow Monk the don't monkey is

1:06:05

is is is a designer drugs

1:06:07

okay the legal. Oh

1:06:10

the legal stuff that people are taking now.

1:06:12

I. Dunno, I wouldn't mess with it is it's a bunch

1:06:14

of chemicals. It's probably rat poison for all they know. But.

1:06:17

He is it. Compares.

1:06:20

Wouldn't like when women younger. It's

1:06:23

fucking crazy now. It is

1:06:25

crazy and kids getting their hands on

1:06:27

something that they think is a valley

1:06:29

in and it ends up being sentinel

1:06:31

and they're dead. It's too much of

1:06:33

a risk. That oil as

1:06:36

a as a person would do

1:06:38

more than half. Do you have to

1:06:40

teach your kid that that? You can't take

1:06:42

those risks anymore. He

1:06:44

does too much. I mean when you

1:06:46

were growing up all it was was

1:06:49

fucking dope. Everybody was like you meant

1:06:51

the jack. He. When

1:06:53

he used to sell mushrooms from Gelson

1:06:55

yeah Jack. One time was the case.

1:06:58

went to gal. We were at least

1:07:00

to hang out a Century City Mall

1:07:02

every weekend. It was like are

1:07:04

play so many all the kids that with

1:07:06

their from the different high schools and it's

1:07:08

where you went and you met the movie

1:07:10

theater I told you know and then I

1:07:13

would pick you off and. My

1:07:15

brother decided he wanted to

1:07:17

make an excerpt. Bit. Of

1:07:19

cash and went and got like

1:07:21

freeze dried mushrooms, some gelson and

1:07:23

sold the mushrooms. The kid and

1:07:25

mom and dad went fucking nuts

1:07:27

when I came home and told

1:07:29

them. Because I thought it was

1:07:31

so naughty. I I

1:07:33

couldn't fucking some leave and I'm

1:07:36

like we did he get from

1:07:38

like. Sorry.

1:07:42

Where does he get that from?

1:07:44

Selling? Dealing out the selling pot.

1:07:46

Yes, I mean, it's like you

1:07:48

really need to do. That said.

1:07:50

Well, that is also part one

1:07:52

of the great debate. Is very

1:07:54

good. Very good. And don't forget

1:07:57

to get. your mushrooms from galison

1:08:00

Okay

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