0:01

Crazy, hey,

0:03

but that's how it goes.

0:07

I need to go to a happier place. I

0:09

feel romantic.

0:10

Turn half-possessed. Just go to bed,

0:12

darling.

0:15

Alright, change the subject. Good

0:18

morning. Good morning, good morning. How's

0:20

everyone doing? Fine, I just had a

0:22

good breakfast, and I feel like I

0:24

want to go back to bed.

0:26

There you go. There you go. Seize

0:28

the day. I am doing fabulous. Good.

0:32

Oti, how are you doing? Feeling

0:34

a bit rough. Good.

0:38

She's my baby, she's a good

0:40

girl. Today's topic is about something

0:42

we all know very well,

0:44

Ozzfest. Come

0:49

on! Welcome to Ozzfest!

0:52

Love it. Are we ever going to do another Ozzfest? Great

0:55

question. That's more of a question

0:57

for you, good sir. You're

0:59

all Osbournes, it's not me. Well,

1:03

I think it is. I

1:05

don't think anyone's going to show up if it's me, Mum

1:08

and Jack head-kiss-farting around on stage. No, but

1:11

they didn't all come to see me. No.

1:14

Lots of other bands on there. You could

1:16

get a headliner. Doesn't have to be

1:18

me. Be much better if it was,

1:20

though. I'd love, yeah, but yeah. For

1:23

namesake. How many

1:26

years did Ozzfest run? The

1:28

last one we did was in... It

1:33

was 2018 on New Year's Eve.

1:36

That counted as an Ozzfest? No, it wasn't Ozzfest.

1:38

Okay. Yeah. So

1:41

that was Dad's last gig. Last

1:43

gig on New Year's Eve

1:46

at the Forum. So it went from 1996 to 2018 with

1:49

a few breaks in between. Yeah.

1:53

Is this hard for you to talk about? No, not

1:56

at all. What inspired

1:58

you? For people that don't know. Mum,

2:00

explain what Ozfest was. Ozfest

2:03

was a touring

2:06

festival for hard-edge

2:09

music. And

2:12

the best part of it was we had a second

2:14

stage for new and upcoming bands.

2:17

Wasn't it a

2:17

time there were three stages? Yes? Yeah,

2:20

there was. Yeah. But what was

2:22

that one all about? Just all about new bands. You know,

2:24

we had so many bands.

2:26

But bands were formed

2:28

that morning. It

2:31

was like, yeah, it was like, are you a fledgling

2:33

or are you a side... No, what it was, it was

2:35

so there was never a break in music.

2:37

So one band on the

2:40

side stage would end and then immediately

2:42

stage three would start. So

2:45

there was never a lull without music while there

2:47

was set changes going on. You know,

2:49

I don't know whether I'm writing

2:51

a song. But I thought, I

2:53

think Greed got involved in it

2:56

with booking

3:00

certain bands. It

3:03

was, yeah, it

3:05

was a very weird beast

3:07

because all the bands were our

3:09

mates, but the managers were greedy.

3:12

And for some reason, they thought that we

3:14

were making...

3:15

Billions.

3:17

Billions on it. And we

3:19

weren't. We made a profit, but it was not

3:21

like we couldn't retire on it. And

3:25

managers and agents wanted more

3:28

and more and more. And it just wasn't cost

3:30

effective anymore.

3:31

So is that ultimately why Ozfest? We

3:33

thought,

3:33

yeah, because it just wasn't cost effective.

3:35

Your mother used to be

3:38

on the phone a lot.

3:39

No. But when that was going down, it was fucking

3:42

insane. I mean,

3:43

years and years ago, one of the bands,

3:46

it was the second Ozfest we did

3:48

or the third. It

3:50

wouldn't go on stage until I agreed to give them

3:53

ten thousand more dollars. And

3:55

they were holding everything up. And I said, of course,

3:57

of course, I'll give it you. What band?

3:59

Say it say it And

4:03

then why you're gonna protect that

4:05

twat and then I didn't give

4:07

them the money They went on played and went

4:09

fuck you. Yeah, they signed a

4:12

contract We signed a contract your agent

4:14

agreed it and you just gouging

4:17

didn't again close Pee-pee

4:19

failures. No. No, it was just

4:22

He they liked young girls girls

4:24

backstage and they were taking

4:27

pictures of their dicks and the young girls

4:29

mouth Oh putting them

4:31

on laminate and parading them around

4:33

backstage No, it's disgusting.

4:36

They on Hollywood Records. I don't

4:38

remember They were they were

4:40

on Hollywood and I went to Disney

4:43

and complained because I said this is a disgrace.

4:46

I

4:47

Remember it

4:48

now. It's all coming back to me

4:53

I have such a vivid memory of those

4:55

laminates and the pictures and Because

4:58

it was I was really really young

5:00

young Yeah, I was so young and I

5:03

and I remember and and I remember the manager

5:06

didn't you? Was it the

5:07

manager of the manager you kicked out of the of

5:09

the of Ozfest because they had the picture

5:11

on his laminate Yeah,

5:13

I guess they're all coming back now. Yeah,

5:15

they were all nasty nasty That

5:18

was 96. I'm

5:19

about 90. No, no, no,

5:21

it's 97 and it wasn't what not

5:23

still not

5:25

Nasty nasty people Ozfest started in 1996. So I

5:27

was about to turn 11 so

5:33

I was 10 and you were about to turn 12. I mean

5:36

the first Ozfest We

5:38

were all very reserved by it. We

5:40

were we were we were kind of best behavior

5:43

because it was so big and it was in

5:45

your Maggie Dogs

5:48

were there Minnie and Maggie, but it

5:50

was it was pretty the butter But

5:52

it was so big we we were intimidated

5:54

by we would only ever be

5:56

in the main

5:57

stage backstage would go to

5:59

catering

5:59

to see people they wouldn't really talk to us

6:02

that much. Yeah.

6:03

I don't know

6:05

if it's like a horse. I can get on

6:08

it and get out of it. Oh god.

6:10

Fucking Phil from Pantara. Oh

6:12

god. He used to give me like

6:14

don't do drugs and don't drink advice. Yeah.

6:17

He'd be like. But then simultaneously giving us

6:19

Crown Royal and Wild Turkey so it never really

6:21

made sense. Well at least Crown Royal comes

6:24

in a nice bag. Nice bag.

6:25

I know. He comes out. He

6:27

comes out. I was in fucking memory one time.

6:30

I was in Pantara's dressing room.

6:31

It was with Vinny and Dime. Dime

6:34

had handed me a shot. I'm about to drink

6:36

it and she fucking walks into the dressing

6:39

room and I'm like. She again the cat's mother. My mother

6:41

walks into the dressing room and I'm like. And

6:44

then they handed her one and we were just like alright

6:47

we just did a shot and I was like maybe 15.

6:51

I was like

6:53

I'm gonna get in so much trouble

6:55

and she was like ah fuck it and we just

6:57

drank it. It's

6:59

horrible.

7:00

Horrible. It's so strong. Never

7:03

tried it. Oh it's so f for

7:15

a while was Uncle Zach

7:18

introduced me to Crown Royal and Ginger Ale.

7:20

I like that and all Crown Royal and Sprite.

7:22

That's what. I remember

7:25

when Zach first joined me. He

7:27

went to England and

7:28

when we used to live a bill house. The

7:31

guy next to us to make his own fucking

7:34

George with George's wine.

7:36

It was like fucking moonshine.

7:39

And Zach was the big mound

7:42

of sand in the yard

7:44

and he couldn't find his way back from my

7:46

studio to the house and he was

7:48

climbing up and he threw up at us on rollback.

7:51

How many people. Oh

7:54

Zach.

7:54

Zachy boy. He's

7:56

cleaner. He's over now. Good

7:58

good. Um so.

7:59

He's got a quite a bit of sweat,

8:02

isn't he? He's got

8:03

years, yeah, he's doing brilliant. How

8:05

many times did you hide in other bands'

8:07

dressing rooms from Mum and Dad?

8:08

Oh my god. Oh my god, it was like a daily thing. Daily.

8:11

Hiding in dressing rooms, buses. I got my

8:13

first tattoo in the back of Hate Breeds tour bus

8:16

when I was 16 and waited. What was

8:18

that? It was, I had it done in white ink and it

8:21

said Mum and I bought an ounce of weed and got

8:27

a tattoo in the same sitting.

8:28

It was great. That's brilliant, but congratulations. Thank

8:31

you, thank you. It was

8:32

a good weed. It

8:34

was great weed, yeah, it was in Colorado. Oh

8:36

my

8:36

god. Now don't even tell me about

8:38

it. I'm like...

8:39

And you know what, and because

8:41

we were flying on the plane back to LA, I was like,

8:43

fuck, how am I gonna get this

8:46

home? So I had him vacuum seal it

8:48

six times and I had it in my backpack

8:50

and the whole flight home I'm like, I'm going to prison.

8:52

I'm fucking flying with an ounce of weed. I'm fucked.

8:55

I'm like, I was so paranoid that somehow,

8:58

somewhere, there'd be a fucking sniffer dog

9:00

and I was going to go to prison for transporting

9:02

an ounce of weed. Good, I'm glad you did have an

9:04

ounce of weed. But yeah, you're trying to... Even

9:08

now.

9:09

I can't do it, but I think I'm not fucking cocking

9:11

anymore, but...

9:12

Well,

9:13

unless it was like 35 year old cocaine. I

9:17

know, but that's my paranoia.

9:19

I always think... Well, you know what I do. This

9:22

is like not... It's obviously not the same thing,

9:24

but obviously I shoot a lot. So I have... Gunpowder

9:27

and stuff like that. Well, yeah, like I'm always... So

9:29

I have like bags

9:32

that no firearms, no

9:34

bullets, nothing ever go anywhere

9:36

near as my travel bags because

9:38

I just don't want like a bullet or something to be in my backpack

9:41

when I travel.

9:41

Oh, one time daddy was

9:43

eating popcorn on the plane and

9:45

he used to wear a fanny pack. I remember

9:47

that fanny pack. And the popcorn seeds went into

9:50

his fanny pack. And so they're searching daddy

9:52

as he's come back into the country and

9:54

they see these

9:55

seeds, popcorn

9:56

things.

9:57

And they think they're like drug seeds. And

9:58

they're going, what is this? said it's popcorn

10:01

they're going no it's not i said that is

10:03

popcorn put it in

10:04

a fucking pen yeah

10:08

do you remember that no do

10:10

you remember coming in from hawaii just

10:13

now just now

10:15

we haven't been

10:16

to hawaii for a year you're talking about that

10:18

trip oh no no

10:21

years ago when you came into hawaii

10:23

oh fuck yeah what do you have

10:25

oh they come to a cumin i

10:27

come with cumin i come from japan

10:30

back to american the land coming to america

10:33

from a white

10:34

i've got a leather fucking clothes on leather

10:37

pants zach and fucking

10:40

randy gazelle were fucked up on the plane

10:43

so like they and i'm standing seven o'clock

10:46

in the morning it's fucking thousand degrees

10:48

i'm dying last

10:50

night's stage makeup on

10:52

i've got the makeup on

10:55

and the guy says what are you coming here for

10:57

so i'm coming back from japan

11:00

are you doing work here i

11:02

just know i'm going to a wedding jonie's

11:05

wedding

11:07

so he goes you haven't got the right papers

11:09

i said well

11:11

i'm working in in the mainland which

11:13

the guy goes what do you mean the mainland

11:17

he's not supposed to say the mainland or why

11:20

i don't fucking know so

11:23

it put me in a different holding

11:25

cell which is a fucking cage with

11:28

these other people it's

11:30

all open like a corral

11:33

i'm gonna ask the guy every time

11:35

i'm out he just shut up shut up i'll

11:38

speak to you you can only speak when i speak to you

11:41

i was like i've gotta can

11:43

i find my wife she's

11:45

leaving from england to come to this wedding

11:48

if you don't let me in and

11:49

i can i had to i had to

11:51

phone the mayor i was like i had to

11:54

pay 25 for a special stand by more

11:56

that was

11:59

fucking horrendous. Well,

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which, you went to nearly every one, you guys,

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13:57

would you say was the best one of the? Oh.

14:01

98 98 was the best year

14:02

ever hands down the best

14:05

Ozfest And everyone thereafter

14:07

was compared to 98 yeah It was so

14:09

funny like at the end of every Ozfest people

14:11

would be like was it good wasn't

14:14

it as good? Cuz it was like 98 it

14:18

was you tool limp

14:21

biscuit, huh? Thank

14:23

you, but thank

14:24

you, but snot System

14:27

of a down I always remember that snuck guy.

14:30

Yeah, Lynn

14:30

loved him. Yeah

14:31

Knuck

14:34

my door every fucking night

14:37

is not my daughter

14:40

What have you done today and

14:43

yeah, what the fuck of you know? He went

14:45

on cuz limp biscuit They had a giant

14:47

toilet bowl as their set piece and

14:50

he climbed up the toilet bowl and

14:52

during limp biscuit set Had

14:54

a porn star give him a blowjob while

14:57

limp biscuit were playing It

14:59

everyone went nuts because you can't fucking

15:01

do that He went running naked

15:04

through backstage and burst into dad's dressing

15:06

room naked

15:07

Hey,

15:09

oh, it's gonna hack and I hide in here and hid

15:11

in dad's toilet because security the

15:13

police He was

15:15

always every day. There was something

15:18

else with them

15:18

He

15:21

goes

15:22

Guff

15:24

save his bird for you. You fucking

15:27

know how of marijuana

15:29

But

15:31

he but Whitfield was on that

15:38

Wittefield

15:40

okay, we're doing a gig one-off gig somewhere

15:42

Mongolia or somewhere. He'll be there

15:46

and I go

15:47

Fuck you doing Whitfield

15:49

is is a true nomad

15:52

My mom I'm very

15:55

very

15:55

he's got a sense where he is life. You

15:58

know, he's got it. He

15:59

He has his own rhythm. Whitfield,

16:02

we miss you, man. Love Whitfield.

16:05

But yeah, so I think for me, you know,

16:08

I was just-

16:08

With Korn on that tour?

16:09

No, Korn did 2003.

16:12

Yeah.

16:15

Love them too. Yeah. I'm

16:18

trying to think of like who else was on that tour in the second

16:20

stage, because that's where we hung out the

16:21

most. Yeah, well, Soulfly Headlines second

16:23

stage. I remember that. Yeah. But

16:27

like Incubus and System of a Down,

16:29

they were like baby bands then. Yeah. They

16:31

had just been signed. Yeah.

16:32

And they were like a big brother that Incubus

16:34

were. Yeah.

16:36

Great guys. We had so much

16:38

fun with guys. Well, I mean,

16:40

speaking of that, no one realizes that

16:43

Incubus played on your very first song.

16:45

Yeah.

16:47

It was Mikey and Hosey played

16:51

all the instruments on Poppy Don't Preach and helped

16:53

me do my very first single. Yeah.

16:55

It's a little- And what team got you number one?

16:59

What single got you another one? Yeah.

17:02

Okay. What

17:06

single got us number one?

17:08

Changes.

17:08

There you go. That was

17:10

great. It was such fun in no state.

17:11

Yeah, it was great.

17:14

Why did you decide? Cause

17:16

I know there's a lot of misnomers

17:19

about Ozfest, about, oh, why did

17:21

it start? You know, there's a lot of, you

17:23

know, you say it was because of, well,

17:26

some people say it was because dad got denied from-

17:28

That's right. Lala Palooza, it's true. But didn't

17:30

you, when dad played Lala Palooza

17:32

though, I remember seeing a conversation between

17:34

you and Perry and he was like, no, no one ever asked Ozzy

17:37

to do Lala Palooza.

17:38

No, nobody ever asked us to do

17:40

it. I got my Ozzy's agent

17:42

to say, Ozzy's free

17:45

this summer, we'd

17:47

like to do Lala Palooza. And they

17:49

came back and they said, no, Ozzy's not cool

17:51

enough. No,

17:52

Ozzy's a dinosaur. No,

17:54

it was like, you're not cool, so you

17:56

can't come on. And it was like, oh,

17:59

really? Okay. And they

18:02

were very diverse in the acts that

18:04

they chose. I just said, well, we're going

18:06

to stick to what we know. We're going to go

18:08

with hard edge. That's it.

18:10

And we're going to do our own festival. Do

18:12

you guys feel because

18:14

truth be told, and

18:16

I don't know if this is just me kind of looking at

18:18

it through my own Osborne lens,

18:21

but when Ozfest stopped as

18:23

a touring festival, I

18:26

believe you could actually track the decline

18:28

in the population. In the popularity in

18:30

hard rock.

18:31

These other festivals took over

18:33

without moving other hard edge festivals.

18:36

But nobody was bringing new bands into the mix.

18:38

And no one was breaking new bands. No, they

18:40

weren't. Like you can't know no

18:42

offense, but other touring festivals. You

18:44

know, you know, you know,

18:47

you know what, Ben, I met the guy from

18:49

In Living Color.

18:51

And he said, why did you want you never want

18:53

you never a process to do Ozfest.

18:57

I thought that's frightening.

18:59

You don't even know in living color. Yeah. The

19:02

boy didn't ever get on us.

19:04

I only heard the guitar. It was fucking

19:06

awesome. Yeah.

19:10

Listen, we had Jada Pinkett Smith on.

19:13

She asked to come on. We went to see

19:15

her band. They were really

19:16

good. She was saying we've asked a time

19:19

and time again. No, no,

19:22

that's not true.

19:23

Well, that's what that's what. No, they would have

19:25

never been turned down time and time again. They

19:27

were too good a band to be turned down. I honestly

19:30

don't know. It's one of those, I suppose, that fell through

19:32

the cracks. I just can't think.

19:36

But to that point,

19:39

making, though, is that no other touring

19:42

heavy metal festival broke bands

19:44

like Ozfest. No, they didn't. You

19:46

know, tattoo the world or not fest. I

19:49

know their family, but like where where was

19:52

the Slipknot to come from Slipknot

19:54

festival?

19:55

They had one.

19:56

Yeah, they had one. Yeah, they had one. Flipfest.

20:00

It was tattoo the world and then it turned into not

20:02

fair But like

20:05

do good. Yeah, I mean

20:07

there's a

20:08

heavy metal band that Sid works

20:11

with called swollen teeth and they're doing

20:12

really really well and The

20:16

I think that's a great title

20:17

for a bad. Whoa

20:19

swollen teeth

20:21

and Doing a second record

20:23

right now. Yeah, but I

20:26

I mean there's some but it's not to

20:28

what you're saying.

20:29

Yeah, like there's no limp. It's there's

20:31

no disturbed There's no flip not let's

20:33

not System there's

20:36

no incubus all those bands We

20:39

didn't obviously we can't take credit for the fact that

20:41

they're phenomenal musicians and amazing songwriters

20:43

and amazing performers But

20:46

they all had huge success

20:48

after Ozfest

20:50

But that was the whole thing of it and it was like

20:53

we were a family going out on the road listening

20:56

to bands that you guys liked you

20:58

always used to come in with your list and It

21:01

was like it was

21:02

It

21:05

was mama and I we wouldn't know how to fucking clue

21:08

what

21:09

No, I think you guys would have you guys have

21:11

always had an ability to pick amazing bands

21:14

think it I mean the amount of bands that

21:16

opened for you That went

21:18

on to have huge success is

21:20

insane. Yeah, think about it Metallica

21:24

not saying motley crew I

21:28

Mean the bands we just listed. Yeah, I

21:30

mean it says so many bands open

21:33

for you and go on to have huge success

21:37

But that's what's so good about it being

21:39

able to give great new talent a A

21:43

forum to go and do it and

21:45

play in front of

21:46

Tell you so it's a bit

21:48

lighter

21:50

you know Jonathan from

21:52

corn has been so

21:55

fucking supportive. I didn't

21:57

really know that in that well

21:59

I text him when his wife died

22:02

and I said like,

22:05

if you need a chat, just

22:07

go on the phone to

22:09

me. And he's never forgotten that

22:11

and he's been so consistent in

22:13

the last five years.

22:15

Come on brother, you can book it. It

22:17

means so much to you when

22:19

you're fucking laid up.

22:21

Thank you, Jonathan. And

22:26

slash, slash has been the same.

22:28

David from Disturbed, it

22:30

goes on and on and on, Ozzy, the people

22:32

that have supported you. Was Disturbed on in 1998? No,

22:35

no, no, but they, yeah.

22:38

Great guys. David has always

22:40

been a huge supporter, but

22:43

so many of these guys have,

22:45

you know, Corey

22:49

from Sleptnought has always been a huge

22:52

supporter and clown. So it's,

22:55

we're blessed to have come out of it with a lot of

22:57

friends. Absolutely. And I think that's

22:59

what's really... System. Yeah.

23:03

The guys in System are the best.

23:05

Ozzy first cultivated a real

23:08

community, I think. I think so too.

23:11

Oh, it's backstage, really. It was

23:13

the most fun backstage.

23:16

There is nothing that has ever

23:18

come before like it and there's nothing that will

23:20

ever be like it. It was the

23:23

most, especially when Pantera won tours.

23:25

Oh, that was amazing. It was so fun.

23:29

I remember. You guys had the best

23:31

time growing up

23:33

in summer.

23:36

Did you guys worry about us running

23:38

around? Oh, absolutely. I remember

23:40

when you had a scooter coming, dad,

23:42

someone's coming. Scared him another

23:45

one.

23:46

My scooter got stolen.

23:48

It was probably

23:50

one of the best.

23:51

No, it wasn't. It

23:53

was in a fan stolen. No.

23:56

Yeah. I was looking at my size. It's

23:58

because the way the... bus where

24:00

the buses were parked with

24:02

a car park it was like a

24:04

yes ring a plastic string that

24:06

divided the car from the bus parking

24:09

lot and someone just nicked it and what was

24:11

your best memory of the buses oh

24:14

man but what

24:16

but

24:17

bus swap what was that again where

24:19

we

24:21

don't remember all these bands

24:23

yeah yeah yeah I remember point

24:26

course I remember on a band lock you

24:28

know so I mean

24:30

so many great memories

24:32

just

24:33

great memory but I don't believe

24:35

all is around anymore no it's not

24:38

a long time ago

24:39

but no honestly did you guys worry about us

24:44

yes kind of

24:46

I was that too many things

24:48

off

24:49

who did you worry most about

24:54

me yeah because you were like

24:56

the middle child and

24:58

I always thought Jack oh come

25:00

back and find us

25:02

Amy I never saw anyway she

25:05

was off with

25:06

whoever never came out

25:08

of the bus she

25:09

was a back lounge listening to Porter's

25:12

head

25:12

over

25:17

and over and over again it was Porter's

25:19

head yeah

25:20

but that song over

25:22

again driving me nuts and

25:24

it was you because you were

25:26

so friendly with everyone just

25:28

like instantly like you've known them all your

25:31

life and then I'd be like oh you know them

25:33

no don't no no I've just met the mum and

25:35

I'm like oh they're coming with

25:37

us on tour now

25:38

I found these old children

25:42

a bag full of poop on the bus

25:45

that

25:45

was one of my friends and

25:47

she had this whole thing where she's like

25:50

if I hold it I'm gonna get sick

25:52

and then throw up and I can't throw up

25:55

and we were I was like you're not gonna throw up from

25:57

not shitting you're fine and she

25:59

had this whole pairing So we ended up

26:01

having a full blown panic attack because

26:03

she needed to shit. And so we

26:05

put a bin bag inside

26:08

the toilet on the bus. And just so everyone knows

26:10

is that the number one rule of the road

26:12

is that you cannot poo

26:14

on the tour bus. Unless it's a specific

26:16

toilet, which this one wasn't.

26:18

This was not. And

26:20

so she put shit in the

26:22

bag and then we wrapped it up. And

26:25

then somehow it kind of became

26:28

a sick fucked up game where

26:30

the bus driver ended up

26:33

getting almost slapped around the head with this bag

26:35

of shit and he went insane.

26:37

Our bus. Stop the

26:39

bus on the freeway, do you think? Yeah. No,

26:42

you threw it onto somebody's windscreen.

26:44

No, that was not. It

26:46

was not shit on someone's windscreen. No, they threw

26:49

food out.

26:50

It was the pasta, no,

26:52

the salad dressing that had oil in it. They

26:55

called the police. Yes. And I

26:57

said I had nothing to do with it because I was like, guys, I don't

26:59

think you should do that. And Nick Kool came out

27:01

and dealt with it, right?

27:02

Yeah. I remember.

27:03

Because you saw us running down the freeway.

27:06

No, they were on the plane. It wasn't that we

27:08

had no. What was the time when

27:10

we were on a bus? You were on another.

27:13

When dad was on a bus and he saw us

27:15

running away from the bus driver because he said he was going to whip

27:17

us with his belt.

27:20

We had our own bus. A kid

27:22

bus with no adult supervision.

27:25

So you had fun, didn't you? We had a great fucking time. It

27:27

was the

27:27

best fucking summer. Our bus was

27:30

janky and old. It was a fucking eagle

27:32

from the 70s. No, it wasn't that old. Yes,

27:34

it was. It was. It wasn't that old.

27:36

It had a bit of a

27:37

really think mom would have put us in an old shitty bus.

27:39

No, I wouldn't. Excuse me. I

27:42

remember this bus. It was really old, but it had

27:44

a redo and that's why you took it.

27:47

Okay. I don't remember it being that. I remember it being almost

27:49

like a bicycle. You mean it had a redo. And

27:52

then as time went on, it was the kid's bus and then Amy's bus.

27:55

Yeah. Because she wanted nothing to do with us.

27:57

So she had her own bus and then we had the crazy kid bus.

27:59

And

28:01

as time went on, there was less

28:03

and less and less supervision until there was

28:06

just no adult on the bus. And then Big Dave.

28:08

And then we had Big Dave. And then it got

28:11

too crazy not having adult

28:13

supervision, so mum pulled in Big Dave.

28:14

I remember one of the

28:17

very last fist fights you and

28:19

I had.

28:19

Jack, it was so bad you beat the shit

28:22

out of me.

28:22

And you pulled a chunk of my hair out. No,

28:24

go again. Like it was like a face

28:27

full size chunk of my hair. I'm not

28:29

fighting with it. We're just talking about a fight we had.

28:32

Oh yes it does.

28:33

You two can fucking talk. Not girls

28:35

are fucking flaring here. Hey,

28:39

shit happens. Crazy Town was on that tour that

28:41

summer. Oh my god. Anyway, let's

28:44

just move on from them.

28:45

That summer was so fun. And that bus.

28:47

That was 99.

28:48

That bus driver fucking hated us. And

28:50

that was- I wonder why. That

28:52

was when we did the documentary. That

28:54

was OZFEST 99. And the OZFEST

28:57

documentary, which is now hopefully

29:00

getting to see the light of day. Yes. It's

29:13

a prime example of how

29:15

things have changed though. 25 years ago, to

29:18

get the OZFEST documentary released would

29:20

have cost millions of dollars in licensing

29:23

music and having bands sign off on

29:25

it and all that, just in that

29:27

alone. And now, fast forward 25 years,

29:30

for the most part, everyone's like, yes please,

29:32

just release it.

29:33

Would there's some historical people, Wayne

29:37

Static? Yeah.

29:39

I've been on the road for 30 years.

29:41

Yeah. You can picture

29:43

yourself in that position later. You never know if you're still

29:46

going to be valid. You can't do that at all, you

29:48

know.

29:48

I mean, there's some great stuff on

29:50

him.

29:50

What's that, Wayne Static?

29:52

Wayne Static, on the band

29:54

Static, he's since passed. And

29:56

there's lots of people who are no longer with us.

29:59

And Vanza are no longer together,

30:02

you know. Yeah. Yeah.

30:04

And it's just... Look at

30:06

Pantera.

30:07

Yeah, were they? They were 99. No, it was

30:10

Rob Zombie, 99. Yeah, Rob Zombie. He was

30:12

great when he was... Rob Zombie's a great,

30:14

great friend of mine. Yeah, he's a good

30:17

guy. He's a good one. And he's

30:18

great at what he does. Come on, he's so talented.

30:21

Yeah, he is. Absolutely.

30:23

And it was always fun when his wife was on tour. Always.

30:26

And she had her cats. Cats with her? Yeah.

30:29

Yeah, they had their cats. They had their cats, yeah.

30:31

I'm guessing it's been 25 years

30:33

and not sure the same cats are still around. You never know.

30:36

Cats live a really long time. The cats live a long

30:38

time. Long arse time. Cats live for a while. Cats

30:40

don't live long. Always has to go back to the cats.

30:43

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31:48

Who is the naughtiest band ever on

31:50

Osbournes?

31:51

Snot. For

31:55

sure. They

32:00

kind of came up at the same time as System

32:02

and Incubus and they were a part of

32:04

this new metal LA

32:07

scene in the late 90s.

32:08

But they were going to be the big one.

32:10

They were, as far as harder metal

32:12

went, yeah.

32:12

They were on trajectory to be...

32:14

Was that good? Yeah, they were great. They

32:16

were just great. I'll

32:18

play you one of their songs before

32:20

we go. Oh, I want

32:23

to watch his funeral. And the better

32:25

team is done. Yeah. It

32:28

was just... Momma

32:30

came up so sad. Yeah. And

32:33

but snot, they... The singer was

32:35

named Lin Straight and he was the most mischievous.

32:38

Naughty. Nicest, craziest

32:40

fucking guy imaginable. He had the biggest

32:43

shit eating grit on his face at all times. Loved

32:45

it everything. I've done it again, how can

32:47

I? He was special. He was

32:50

one of those people that are special. They've

32:52

got so much charisma and power. But

32:54

you know what? You could just... You know, there

32:56

are people I've met for my career

32:58

that

32:59

I've gone, I know

33:00

they're too good to be here.

33:03

Yeah. They're

33:04

so good at what they do, they're too good to be... Randy

33:07

was like that. Yeah.

33:09

Special people, you know, they've got

33:11

like a tick on them, you know. Yeah. Stand

33:14

out from the crowd. And then

33:16

I'm thinking after

33:18

them... There was a band... Marilyn Manson was pretty bad with

33:21

the dressing room. Yeah, Marilyn

33:23

Manson was bad. Yeah, he destroyed a lot of dressing

33:25

rooms.

33:26

But he, you know what? I told

33:28

him from the beginning, you play,

33:30

you pay. So if you want to pay to get

33:33

the dressing rooms redone, that's fine. Go

33:35

ahead, do it. And he did. He paid

33:37

for everyone and just carried on doing it with his voice.

33:40

I

33:40

must admit, I did participate

33:42

in destroying some dressing rooms with them.

33:43

Thank you very much for telling me, Jack.

33:46

And thank you, Marilyn, for paying us. Yeah.

33:49

Thank you. When he first came on the tour, he was like,

33:53

God's on the tour. Yeah. There

33:55

was that air. He was like... What's

33:57

he gonna be like? Is it that bad? He secured...

35:52

was

36:01

very respectful, he was always

36:03

acted very appropriately,

36:06

whatever whatever and all I know

36:08

is that every night there were

36:11

women

36:11

waiting to get on his tour bus

36:14

begging to get on the tour bus and

36:17

my whole thing is

36:19

what did you think he was going to do? Show

36:21

you his stamp collection? That's

36:23

a good point. You know what would he do? That was

36:25

a bit in my ear, in my ear. I have a good stamp

36:27

collection now, do you know?

36:28

What were they going to do? Crochet

36:31

on the bus?

36:32

Play a game of chess? You never know,

36:34

it could be. No, I don't think so. Crochet

36:36

on the cuffs. But it is. Cuffs, no? As

36:39

I said with the stuff with Danny Masterson,

36:42

I knew him in a social

36:44

setting. That's it. We spent a lot

36:47

of time out and about what goes on behind

36:49

someone's door. You never know. You never

36:51

know. You just can't say and I think,

36:54

you know, just got to see what comes out in the wash with

36:56

it. But it is... Blind

36:59

Melon came. Huh? Blind

37:01

Melon? No, Blind Melon never played.

37:03

No, they never played. No, he passed away before.

37:05

He passed away before. Before they

37:06

took. Well, no, he

37:08

passed away. I remember also

37:10

Papa Roach causing a lot of trouble and

37:14

getting them to rip up the grass that we'd have to

37:16

have relayed every

37:18

single after every show. And

37:20

you'd go insane.

37:21

Wait, hang on a second. If we're going to talk about

37:23

causing trouble, this

37:26

one caused the most trouble.

37:27

When? Why? When?

37:30

Which one? Refusing to

37:32

get off the plane to play the gig and

37:34

a full blown fucking riot

37:36

kicked off an entire venue

37:38

destroyed. It was like the Toyota

37:41

Center. I forgot where. Why was

37:43

I throwing that one, Boo? I

37:45

know exactly why. I don't know. I know

37:47

exactly

37:47

why. Oh, come on, tell us. She

37:49

tossed out your Vicodin stash and

37:51

you went fucking nuts. Oh, she, the

37:53

cat's mother. Yes. Meow.

37:57

Meow.

37:57

Meow.

37:58

Meow.

37:59

One of the band members announced that Augie wasn't

38:02

here. The guys ran to the fence

38:04

to start tearing it down. Knock down

38:06

a cheating boat. One wall.

38:09

We'll have the right neuron ready to go

38:11

in. Found your stash, tossed

38:13

it. I remember we sat on the

38:15

runway with Mike Borden.

38:18

It was Trujillo. I

38:21

think...

38:21

Who was playing for Dad? Was it

38:24

Zach or was it... No, I don't think it was Zach. Was

38:26

it

38:27

Joe Holmes?

38:28

Yeah, it was Joe.

38:30

He was refusing to get off the

38:32

plane and we sat there for hours

38:34

and the phone... Hey, they're getting really

38:37

pissed off here. I was his mum

38:38

and you were with Dad.

38:39

We were all on the plane. I

38:41

have a memory of him screaming

38:44

and punching the side of the plane. Oh

38:46

my god, yes! As

38:50

the time would tick on, hey, they're getting

38:52

real crazy here. Is he coming or not? Then

38:54

it would be like, okay, they're starting to rip up the

38:56

chairs. It just got worse

38:58

with every phone call and it got so bad.

39:01

I forget the name

39:03

of what the venue was but it was like the Toyota

39:05

Center and they had cars. I blocked it out of my mind.

39:08

They had cars everywhere, like on display

39:11

and they flipped the cars, they burnt

39:13

the cars. The place was destroyed.

39:16

Like riot police had to come in. You

39:18

just didn't want to go to work that day.

39:20

One of those things. You can't do it every day.

39:23

Listen, greatness

39:24

can't just appear. In

39:28

Dad's defense, I'd be pissed off too. What?

39:30

Pissed off?

39:31

No, I would be pissed off. I don't think I'd

39:34

be. I'm not doing it then.

39:35

How many riots

39:37

have you been at the center of? I won't say responsible

39:40

for, but at the center of?

39:43

The Randy one was pretty bad. And

39:45

the one in San Diego was pretty bad

39:47

as well.

39:48

What Randy one? Did

39:50

he show...

39:51

No, I told him as well. We

39:53

were booked to do Long Beach Arena.

39:56

But I had a bad throat.

39:58

We said, if you've got a ticket...

39:59

So we could do the layers to go to

40:02

the ... Wait, so if they had a ticket stub,

40:04

they could go to Irvine?

40:05

Yeah. From Saturday to Wednesday. Well,

40:08

these people from Saturday were still getting a lot ...

40:10

Oh, the audience was fucked up,

40:12

stoned. So they put

40:15

all the people from ... Most of the

40:17

people from

40:19

Long Beach at the back of the Irvine

40:21

thing, so it was all on the hill.

40:24

So they're all shouting at somebody, and they're

40:26

all at the back, and I go, okay. I

40:28

was, come on down. So they fucking ...

40:32

Words I wish I'd never fucking said. Because

40:35

they fucking come down like a fucking avalanche.

40:37

They didn't stop at the ...

40:39

Randy Rhodes. Mom

40:41

was doing the gig for Randy Rhodes.

40:44

We're

40:44

going to buy him out. It was the tribute show, right?

40:47

Yeah.

40:47

For his ... We're going to pay

40:49

for a better

40:51

tombstone for him, was the way.

40:53

So they didn't stop at the stage. They

40:56

all come on the stage, ripping the gate. They

40:59

all came on the stage and took all the equipment.

41:02

Yeah. I'll come off the stage,

41:05

and you can hear him through the PA. Fuck

41:08

off. Mom was like, got the

41:10

Ozzy, and she came out the PA. Got

41:12

the Ozzy, and tell them, if

41:15

they don't stop, we're not going to play. I

41:18

said, yeah, it's the fucking one. He's coming out of the PA,

41:20

all of you. You guys are having an argument on

41:22

the PA. Yeah. It's

41:25

my cotton bucket, you can try it, sir. Mrs.

41:28

Rhodes is going,

41:28

is this what always happens? Aww,

41:32

Mrs. Rhodes. She was a dear orphan. Oh,

41:34

God. The best.

41:36

I remember there was like tornado warnings

41:39

at Osberg. Yeah, we had

41:40

to evacuate.

41:41

Always when we were in the Midwest

41:44

or South Beach.

41:45

I told you it was cool,

41:47

and I took the helicopter from

41:49

here

41:50

to where it was just.

41:52

San Bernardino. San Bernardino.

41:55

San Bernardino. And you're flying

41:57

in. And it was like a... I

42:01

have a great to flower

42:03

the crowd. Yeah, I'm nice when you see

42:05

from there

42:06

Do you guys still have the record at San

42:08

Bernardino? Yeah,

42:10

was that what 65,000? Oh, it was

42:12

more and I think they

42:13

were telling porkies about how many people

42:16

were in there

42:16

What just for like this

42:18

fire reasons? Yeah. Yeah Wow. Oh

42:21

When you go if you go there boy

42:23

road road the fucking traffic

42:25

stuff Terrible

42:26

and you'd always have to commit to are you doing

42:28

a runner or are you staying for another two hours?

42:30

Yeah, no,

42:31

I remember that one when we stayed with the

42:33

Sabbath to him what I did and

42:36

Jesse Jesse

42:38

was Being

42:40

an or super Jesse wild

42:42

For a voice

42:43

just about to get married in two weeks.

42:45

Yeah

42:47

Can you believe it now

42:49

Baby

42:50

Jesse baby Jesse Record

42:54

executive

42:54

now Um

43:02

What is the largest crowd

43:04

you've ever performed in front of oh

43:06

So the US festival

43:08

us festival

43:09

or the first rock

43:12

in Rio

43:13

Rocking Rio versus there's a million

43:15

in one. I said and

43:19

The close to

43:23

In the Rocking Rio site

43:26

It was going on for three days

43:28

and what was seven days What was happening

43:31

was people were getting their place and

43:33

not moving so they were

43:36

Going to the bathroom where they were.

43:38

I go afterwards. The place

43:40

was so contaminated. It had to be

43:42

I go in stage I'll go on stage that

43:44

I'm tell you what I know

43:46

did to show

43:48

the Saturday on the Wednesday

43:50

But I did I'm in front right

43:53

to the stage on both nights The

43:55

second show got run the smell was

43:57

the crew were all wearing

43:59

bandanas

44:01

around their scenes. This smell was fucking unbelievable.

44:03

When they used to go in the crowd to do the

44:05

lights and sounds They were like all

44:07

sick. The

44:08

smell was Unfucking believable.

44:11

Oh, I wanted to catch a show. I've always

44:13

wondered Where

44:16

when you see audiences that big where

44:19

they go to the bathroom? Well, there's never enough

44:21

bathrooms, but the thing was They kind

44:23

of have it down now. Yes, now. Oh,

44:26

in the US festival, there's like four fucking

44:29

Where was the US festival

44:31

held at? I

44:33

want to remember Van Halen Oh,

44:35

yeah, here in LA Van Halen

44:38

got a million dollars It

44:41

was at the it was the

44:43

the motor speedway was in the speedway

44:45

There were there were so many people

44:47

there that they found two or

44:49

three people dead The day

44:52

after the festival had finished amongst

44:55

all the rubbish

44:56

Yeah, can you believe I'm some

44:58

girl sad got kidnapped

45:01

and fucking years later But

45:03

I used like that

45:05

They found her in this trailer park

45:09

Been how against the woman that would be Wow.

45:11

That's horrible So

45:13

many people

45:14

I was just unbelievable

45:16

to that sub to that point

45:18

Ozfest had an impeccable safety record

45:21

did I fucking crazy as it

45:23

was and as mental as the crowds were

45:25

I Mean, I can't

45:27

think of I think maybe there was one or

45:29

two fatalities and there was always drug or

45:31

alcohol induced

45:32

it was one of them was coming

45:35

out of San Bernardino and the

45:37

weather turns the wind whipped

45:40

up and Nobody could see

45:42

and all the police were like, you know

45:44

trying to see to direct the traffic

45:46

and one policeman got I remember

45:49

that run over unfortunately, but We

45:52

never had any any

45:54

fatalities at our show never

45:57

everything was like a hundred percent

45:59

proof We had people died during the tour though.

46:02

On the tour?

46:03

Yeah, don't you remember that one band, this thing had died

46:06

from Vicodin overdose? On his

46:08

thing was found in his bunk. In his bunk. Oh,

46:10

Drowning Pool. Was that on us first? Yeah,

46:12

it was on us first. I think it

46:14

was. I can't remember. I think it was.

46:16

Yeah, I think it was, yeah. Yeah.

46:18

Yeah, that was sad. But

46:21

as far as safety goes

46:23

for the crowds, it was fine.

46:25

When you see things like the

46:28

Fire Fest documentary,

46:30

or you know, recently. Oh my god, Gavin

46:32

would like Travis Scott and the overcrowding.

46:36

Fire Festival, this like two bit hustler

46:39

from New York City,

46:41

basically threw together

46:43

like a fake festival and sold tickets

46:46

for it and had people to show up. But

46:49

there was no festival and people were just left on

46:51

this island in the Caribbean with no food, no

46:53

water, no bands, nothing. It

46:56

was just a complete ruse. What

46:59

happened to him? I think he's going to prison,

47:02

although there is an announcement, he did come out with an announcement.

47:04

Saying that they're going to do Fire Festival. Yeah, he's... Oh,

47:07

please, give me a break. Yeah, I'm not gonna be talking of which,

47:09

this show,

47:10

The Burning Man was a

47:12

big disaster. Oh yeah. Oh, it's been...

47:15

A little muddy. No, but it's been such a huge

47:17

success, year after year after year. It

47:19

was just the weather was against...

47:20

You gotta have one mulligan. Yeah. Then

47:23

really kill there? No. No,

47:25

no, no, someone died this year. Really?

47:27

I swear to you. If you look it up...

47:29

But it's like the most

47:31

peaceful love and heat. No, they're all... They're

47:33

all so out of their mind on drugs and it's so hot,

47:35

people will pass out in the heat and they'll

47:38

die of exposure. Oh my god. That's

47:40

horrible. Yeah, there's always death at

47:42

Burning Man. That's the thing, it's... But it's like an older

47:44

people's festival. It is an older people's festival. It is an older people's

47:46

festival. Older people were younger people one

47:49

time, and they are... But they forget that they're

47:51

older people and one guy was

47:53

so off his mind, he threw himself into

47:55

the bone. They burn a big effigy and

47:58

he ran into the fire and burned himself. death

48:00

oh he must have been on oh yeah

48:02

he was definitely bouncing off the rings at

48:05

that and when you see stuff like you

48:07

know the tragedy that festival is like what happened

48:10

uh what a juice got astro world astro

48:12

world and what it like oh

48:15

seven seven people there

48:17

it was overcrowding not enough security

48:20

terrible planning

48:22

and what was that one with a ramp up

48:24

this is what we're

48:25

talking about one this is the one

48:28

he got trampled in there he got arrested

48:32

no I don't know did he

48:33

no he didn't but he

48:36

was told at the beginning

48:38

of the show from the fire

48:40

marshal and everybody like please

48:42

be careful and don't incite anything

48:45

and he had

48:46

it there was a child who

48:48

died a little boy oh

48:55

just I think he was 12 but when

48:57

you see

48:57

stuff like that you get I get

48:59

I

49:00

don't see I wasn't nearly it I

49:02

mean you've organized it you get pissed off

49:05

when you see stuff like that because it's so avoidable

49:07

yeah

49:08

I do get pissed off I do get pissed

49:10

off and unfortunately you

49:13

need to have

49:14

somebody with the balls to

49:16

walk up on stage and go stop

49:20

because people on that stage

49:22

some of them could see what was

49:25

happening and so you pull the plug

49:27

you pull the sound you go up

49:29

and you say like

49:31

part everybody everybody

49:34

part and nobody

49:36

likes to do it everybody

49:38

looks at everybody else and

49:40

they're all like well what

49:43

do we do what do we do and even though you've

49:45

got your production managers your manager

49:47

your agents all of these people and

49:49

it's like

49:51

get on that stage and I remember

49:53

doing a gig the most simple thing

49:55

you want to know this guy

49:58

when when you're on stage you can sort of spot

50:01

the one in the crowd and this guy was

50:03

sitting

50:04

standing there with his arms crossed looking

50:06

not rocking

50:08

sitting there it's only old

50:10

whack to this fucking guy beside you smack

50:13

him in the face and fold his arms out and

50:15

I'm going what the fuck's he

50:17

all about? but you can it's

50:19

like

50:20

the one in the crowd so you

50:22

can so you can spot

50:24

as clear as day yeah make your face

50:26

on your life yeah I'd say come on I'm

50:29

still rocking around getting anyway let me finish

50:32

so he cracks his girl and I'm going

50:34

to what the fuck guy get this fucking

50:37

thing out of here so they get

50:39

him so Brian Hennedy was the

50:41

other one my mind just got goes

50:43

down

50:44

gets him

50:45

then he's gone I thought I thought I

50:47

thought he'd throw him out

50:49

so when I finished the set I go outside and

50:51

the cops have got these kids and he's got his hands

50:55

handcuffed behind and this guy is

50:57

fucking I swear I'm not joking like

51:00

degloving his hand through

51:03

the fucking handcuffs

51:06

he's

51:06

pulling the handcuffs over his skin

51:08

and his skin's going slow

51:11

down buddy what the fuck you doing in there?

51:13

but he was on that TCP no

51:15

GHP

51:16

PCP? PCP

51:19

whatever that fucking thing and he was

51:21

literally pulling the skin off

51:24

it's going back

51:26

to when you see something happening in the audience

51:29

it depends on your what's

51:31

going on in your light in front of

51:33

you because sometimes artists are blinded

51:35

if there's special effects going on I

51:37

can never have spotlight

51:40

I'm directly in my face because

51:43

I can't see what's coming I mean over

51:46

the years you can imagine what kind of things

51:49

I could duck and dive and

51:51

fucking

51:52

avoid

51:53

but when you're doing huge

51:55

huge stadiums or huge

51:58

festival sites you're

52:00

the headliner, you should always have your

52:03

own, not just for the band, not

52:05

just band security. You need

52:08

a venue security head for

52:10

you to represent you. So

52:12

your head of security is there

52:15

dealing with venue security. Not

52:17

just letting the venue security do that thing.

52:19

Never, never, because

52:21

there's always mistakes on both

52:23

sides. So if you've got two, you know, avoid,

52:27

hopefully you avoid that. So you've always

52:29

got your head of security always

52:32

out there the whole time on radios

52:35

to all the other security directors.

52:37

And it just has to be like a regimented.

52:42

You can't just

52:44

let these things go and oh, the promoter's

52:46

great. He's done this for so long and yada,

52:49

yada, yada. You know, sometimes

52:51

the promoters will let in more people than

52:53

they should. And it gets

52:56

past the fire marshal. So there's too

52:58

many people to control in a site.

53:00

That's happened loads of times. And,

53:03

you know, sometimes the artist will incite

53:05

it.

53:06

And if you know that your head of security

53:08

for an artist that is known for inciting

53:11

kids to come up on stage or to come

53:13

closer to the stage,

53:14

it's, you know, it's

53:17

got to be stopped because people will die.

53:19

You know, knowing what you know of that and

53:22

your expertise in organizing

53:24

festivals and dealing with crowds

53:26

of similar size so that the kind of what happened to Astro

53:29

world, what, how do you think that

53:31

could have been avoided?

53:33

I don't know, because I wasn't there.

53:35

But I mean, I read at one

53:37

point, there was an ambulance

53:40

driving through the crowd and

53:42

the band was still playing.

53:43

It's like, what? Apparently,

53:46

the barrier was very weak as well. I

53:49

mean, what happened to Donaldson

53:51

that one year was

53:54

crushed. Remember, they all got fucking, oh, didn't know.

53:56

And that's when they had the

53:59

holders going through the crowd and now

54:02

they part the crowd. So

54:04

the crowd can't just be one mess.

54:06

They part you in the middle.

54:08

Yeah, they have like a bit now they even do it

54:10

more. They fuck a tree shaped scene.

54:12

Yeah. So it's that's you

54:14

know you know unfortunately by horror. I mean

54:16

they're about halfway down the fucking

54:18

field before you see the first row. Yeah.

54:21

Yeah it's really weird. It's really far

54:23

away from the stage. I've done that. When you're on

54:25

stage it's like you're playing to nobody you can't do

54:28

the fucking audio. Yeah they're so far back. Yeah they're so

54:30

far back. Did you ever see

54:32

any of the docu it was the

54:35

the Woodstock 99 documentary. Yes I did. I

54:37

saw a bit of it was disgraceful. Did

54:39

you did you see it Kelly?

54:41

No. It was done by my favorite

54:43

promoter John Cher. I heard about what

54:45

they said though. My favorite promoter

54:48

he was the first promoter that I ever had

54:51

a fight with.

54:52

Yeah. The first one ever. So

54:54

the promoter of the actual

54:56

festival not the documentary.

54:58

The festival. Yeah.

54:59

He and I never got on anyway but

55:01

he was the guy that did the Woodstock

55:04

again. And he was the one

55:07

that never had enough toilets wouldn't let people

55:09

take in water. There was no shade.

55:12

It was badly organized from A to

55:14

B to C and that's

55:17

when the kids you can't do that to them

55:19

because they will rebel and they did

55:21

rebel.

55:22

Didn't people die there? Yeah

55:24

a bunch of people there was murders rapes

55:26

everything. But you want to know what pissed me off about

55:28

the documentary and it did

55:31

my fucking head in. So watching

55:33

the documentary and they

55:36

use the they they compared Woodstock 69

55:38

to Woodstock They

55:41

were talking about in 69 it was all peace love flowers

55:44

in your hair you know some of these amazing performances

55:46

this that and the other. Legendary. And

55:50

then they started picking apart the bands that

55:52

were on Woodstock 99 and

55:54

it was a it was a lot

55:57

of new metal rap metal.

56:00

know, bands that had toured

56:02

with us. And they, in

56:04

this, in one version of the documentary,

56:06

they surmised that the reason why

56:09

it all went shit

56:11

storm outside

56:13

of the, you know,

56:15

lack of infrastructure and water and, you

56:18

know, and toilets and everything.

56:20

They said that it was because of

56:23

racism and heavy metal inciting

56:26

racism.

56:26

And which is like the most insane

56:29

thing ever.

56:30

It sounds like something that the promoter would have

56:32

come up with. They basically said,

56:35

in so many words, they had these young kind

56:37

of, you know, 20 something year old

56:39

journalists who write for, you know, music magazines

56:42

now, who probably were still

56:44

sucking their thumb when it all went down,

56:46

had no memory of it, reflecting

56:49

and being like, well, you know, racism was a huge

56:51

part in why it all, and I'm like, I'm

56:53

sorry, you'll never meet a more accepting

56:56

group of people than fucking heavy metal fans.

56:57

And that was so great about Ozfest.

57:00

And it was like summer camp for

57:02

everyone where you got to be around people that

57:04

were like you and you weren't the weird kid in school

57:06

anymore.

57:07

Yeah.

57:08

It's what you were saying.

57:10

If you, if you, if people get

57:12

frustrated, if they don't have the right kind

57:14

of toilets and... Yeah. It's

57:17

so true.

57:17

Kids aren't stupid. They won't stand for

57:19

it. And it's, it's just not fair. It

57:21

is not fair because they

57:24

were taking every dollar that those

57:26

kids had. And it's like

57:29

the, they weren't, they were

57:31

cutting costs. There

57:33

was just badly run, no

57:35

infrastructure, not enough security,

57:38

not enough shade for, I mean, it

57:40

just goes on and on and on. Oh, great.

57:43

Blame the bands. Yeah. Blame

57:45

the bands. Yeah. They were the ones. Yeah.

57:47

Because fill in

57:49

the blank racism. Like, who

57:51

do we blame? Racism. I mean,

57:53

that is just insanity.

57:55

Yeah. Just insanity. Well,

57:58

I'd like to just thank all of our.

57:59

odds best friends for all the years

58:02

that they supported

58:04

us. Yeah it is one big family.

58:06

Yeah. And if you weren't

58:09

there you don't know what we're talking about but

58:11

it was amazing. And if

58:13

you were there you were part of the club. Yeah and

58:15

a part of history really.

58:16

Yeah really. Musical

58:18

history and with great

58:21

years. We've

58:21

got some fun out of the years I mean.

58:23

We have an art my darling. On

58:25

that note let's close it out.

58:27

Bye everyone. Bye it's lovely to

58:30

see you speak to and see you. Love

58:32

you. Everything

58:41

everyone's doing is ripping off black baba.